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00:00:00And we are live. Bruins lose Game 3, 6-2. Down in the theories now, 2-1. That's Carl Corzine. I'm Evan Maranovsky. We're presented by PrizePix. Go use that promo code CLNS to get up to $100 matched on the first deposit and go to game time, use that promo code CLNS to get $20 off your first purchase.

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00:00:35Tough one tonight. This was not a great one by any means. Where do you want to start? What's your sort of initial takeaway from tonight?

00:00:47You followed up that third period and we sat here and we talked the other day about, we really, or you did, I'm not going to state because I didn't like it.

00:00:58I did. I stand by that. I did.

00:01:01You said, oh, that's great pushback. Great job stepping up. Where was the sense of urgency in the first two periods? Eight shots. Eight shots, no, maybe, yeah, eight shots through two periods at home.

00:01:16And so now you're four, again, now you're down four, nothing. And you decide to play the game. It's not good enough. Like you've got to start the game with that sense of urgency, with that floor check.

00:01:28You can't sit back anymore and then chase pucks. You're consistent. And this isn't, and I don't want to say like Florida has been through the last two games, the better team.

00:01:40But the breakout has been consistent for the whole playoffs. Chip it off the glass, go chase it. And when you have to chase the puck consistently, you don't have it.

00:01:54And so you've got to figure out a way to be able to exit the zone in order to have some sort of success, to have possession of the puck. You can't consistently chip it off the glass.

00:02:07And that's on them. That's something that they have not been able to make an adjustment to. It's not just that the teams forecheck, that Toronto and Florida are forechecking that well.

00:02:19You've decided that let's not turn over the pucks, which you still do. Let's chip it off the glass and go chase it down. It's brutal. It's brutal.

00:02:30To me, they chased the game, the whole game. The Bruins did. I mean, chasing pucks in the offensive zone and then sitting back in the forecheck, that was my other thing.

00:02:41They'd chip it in deep. Panthers, you'd get there first. And then you just saw the Bruins back off a bit. And I just, it's stuff like that where it's like, what are you doing?

00:02:53Beyond them. And it just wasn't enough of that. And obviously there were problems in the Bruins end. The turnover issues continue.

00:03:02Swayman saved them a number of times tonight. Again, this score could have been 10. And again, the third period was nice. They fought back a little bit there.

00:03:13But where was that at the start? You got three shots in the first period. Again, it goes back to, and you hit on this early, you look at how that last game ended.

00:03:25Poshnok drops the gloves, the comments made. You think, all right, they're going to come out absolutely just firing. And they didn't. They didn't at all.

00:03:35And I mean, you can blame the refs all you want. They didn't lose tonight because of the refs. That was not why they lost. They lost because there's no puck management at all.

00:03:47And they're chasing the play. They're chasing the play in their own zone. They're chasing the play in the offensive zone. And they can't get to interior ice either, Carl.

00:03:56That's the other thing. The two times they did, they scored. But they can't get there either.

00:04:01And so I saw David Palmer, and this will go to your interior ice. I think David Palmer asked the question, do you want D to get into the rush? What rush?

00:04:09There's no rush.

00:04:11What rush? And so you're talking about getting into interior ice. You haven't established a forecheck enough to go low to high. There is no interior ice to get to if you don't have the puck.

00:04:22No, I agree with you. I agree with you on this.

00:04:24You don't have the puck, so you can't join the rush. You don't have the puck. You can't get to interior ice. You don't have the puck. You can't score goals.

00:04:32They don't have possession of the puck. They just don't have possession of the puck.

00:04:38I'm just going to say it like you're CLNS. They don't have possession of the puck. The game's really hard.

00:04:44I do this with the kids all the time. The most important thing in the game of hockey, and they'll throw all sorts of random answers, it's the puck.

00:04:54Then I'll answer my own question, and then I'll throw it in the bench area. If you don't have the puck, the game stinks.

00:05:03Oh, it stunk tonight.

00:05:05Yeah, the Bruins don't have the puck. Their game stunk.

00:05:10It did. It did. It comes down to that.

00:05:14And then I think this hits at a bigger question. We talked about this after game six against the Leafs.

00:05:22And it's like, do you have the personnel that are good enough to drive play, to hold onto the puck, and have zone entries?

00:05:33I don't know if you do. I don't know if you do.

00:05:36To me tonight, it looked a lot like Pasternak just trying different things, trying way too hard.

00:05:43Not way too hard. He was trying to get going.

00:05:47They don't have that caliber, another person of that caliber.

00:05:51Marchand was up in the third period, too. That was another note. We'll get to that in a bit.

00:05:57I don't know if you have the personnel against this Florida team.

00:06:01The Bruins did themselves no favors, but Florida also just overpowers them.

00:06:07That's the other thing. In the Bruins' own zone, to me, the Panthers just look so much better in the Bruins' end.

00:06:16See, I don't want... The Panthers are better.

00:06:20I'm just going to put that out there. The Panthers are better.

00:06:25Now, let's take a step back, though, if we can, and step back in time.

00:06:33Riley, Lillegren, can you name Toronto's four other defensemen?

00:06:42I can't.

00:06:43Labushkin.

00:06:44Labushkin, sure.

00:06:45Edmondson.

00:06:46And so, the reason I'm bringing that up is, anytime you zone exit with efficiency,

00:06:54you usually have puck moving, good defensemen.

00:06:59Toronto didn't. There were games where they were outshooting you 2-1.

00:07:03There was a game where they had 39 shots.

00:07:06This is solely on a lack... I can't say solely, because Florida, obviously, is a really good team that four-checks hard,

00:07:16that makes the breakout harder, but your lack of energy or your consistent desire to stick with this passive 1-2-2

00:07:29that doesn't allow you to get any turnovers and doesn't create any pressure on Florida to defend

00:07:35makes the game so much easier for them, and so it allows them to have possession of the puck,

00:07:40and when they get possession of the puck, they get it to the red, they get it in deep,

00:07:43and they are aggressively...

00:07:45Four-check the hell out of your team.

00:07:48Yeah, and then they hit you, and the thing is, too, they're giving you different looks.

00:07:53They have given you different looks, and tonight they went with this 1-2-2 wide, which is...

00:07:59I noticed that. You mentioned that after game two. I noticed that tonight as well.

00:08:031-2-2 wide, which is trying to take away from getting out the weak side, right? So, really quick...

00:08:12Here it is. Here it is, everybody. It's back. It's back.

00:08:17Yeah, yeah. This F-1 right here will come aggressive. This F-2 takes away the wall,

00:08:24and F-3 is over here, so if the puck goes wide, he steps down right away,

00:08:30and that's what they did a majority of the night, and so the ice that's available...

00:08:35You saw a turnover probably, I don't know, 14 minutes ago in the third period.

00:08:40McAvoy tries to hit... This is an area of the ice that's available,

00:08:45and he tries to hit that. It leads in a turnover, which I don't mind,

00:08:49because at least they recognize that this is where they've got to go,

00:08:53because the whole rest of it and every other time, they just boom, boom, and it's a turnover right there.

00:09:02Zone exits and floor check just needs a drastic change, and it's harder to change the zone exits

00:09:07because you can't anticipate because floor hit, and to their credit, has given you three different looks.

00:09:15That's harder. On the floor check, you've got to be more aggressive.

00:09:19You've got to create turnovers, and you've got to diversify your offensive zones,

00:09:26and I don't want to say sets because this isn't like basketball or anything like that,

00:09:30but you've got to create two-on-ones against man-on-man,

00:09:34and every time the puck goes low to high, your third guy sits at the top of the circle,

00:09:40and it does not come up to support like Toronto and Florida has done.

00:09:45They just haven't.

00:09:47No.

00:09:48Tonight, I'm frustrated because it's been a long day.

00:09:52I was up at 6.45 for God knows what.

00:09:58I had to go get ice cream sandwiches for a class today.

00:10:01Then I had chapel class.

00:10:04Then I went and watched the Mass Hockey Fest, so I'm mad today.

00:10:08You've had a long day.

00:10:10We can respect that, and you still remembered to bring the whiteboard.

00:10:14We appreciate that.

00:10:16I had to find the marker, though.

00:10:18You had to find the marker.

00:10:20I agree with you, and I mentioned not getting high danger chances,

00:10:26not getting to interior ice, and it stems from bad zone exits.

00:10:31It never seems like they come to the neutral zone with the puck cleanly.

00:10:38When they're in the O-zone, it's all perimeter, and they're even chasing those plays.

00:10:43As you said, and I mentioned this earlier, they're not the forecheck.

00:10:49It's like you're just sitting back and letting—Florida's too good, I think,

00:10:53to just sit back and let them make a decision, right?

00:10:56You weigh with them in Toronto.

00:10:58A team like Florida, who has good puck movers—

00:11:01I mean, I know Ed Blad's been coughing the puck up a little bit, but Montour.

00:11:06You can't give them time, and their forwards are too good.

00:11:09As you said, Florida's better.

00:11:11Florida is the better team.

00:11:13No one is disputing that, but there are ways, and we saw it in Game 1.

00:11:18We saw it in the third period.

00:11:19There are ways you can be in a position to win, and they're not doing them.

00:11:24They're just not, and I don't understand the lack of adjustments.

00:11:31Spokesey's dropping some knowledge.

00:11:33We love Spokesey. Spokesey's a good friend.

00:11:35He said, OK, one serious comment from me.

00:11:37F1 and F2 are way too far apart on the forecheck.

00:11:44You're not pressuring—I almost said Toronto.

00:11:46You're not pressuring Florida enough at all.

00:11:49To me, that's the crux of your problems.

00:11:52That and your own zone exits are just bad right now.

00:11:57People are asking about McAvoy, and that continues to seem to be an issue.

00:12:03He was super physical tonight, so I don't know if it's an injury.

00:12:06If he was injured, there was something there.

00:12:08I don't know if he's finishing all his hits and going out of his way to hit people.

00:12:14I just wonder if it's in his head with moving the puck and breakouts,

00:12:18because there's a lot of turnovers.

00:12:20What do you think?

00:12:22With McAvoy in general, I think it's one of those things

00:12:26where I think he's trying to do too much.

00:12:30I don't think naturally he's a gifted offensive player.

00:12:35And by that, I think well established through these conversations,

00:12:39he's a high 40 to low 60-point guy in the National Hockey League.

00:12:44I think where you've asked him to take on first-line minutes,

00:12:50and by first-line minutes, he's playing against other teams' top line.

00:12:54And you're asking him to be an offensive threat,

00:12:58and you're asking him to be physical.

00:13:01I think that's taken a toll on him throughout the season.

00:13:04And he's clearly not playing at his best.

00:13:06And for what reasons, we won't know until the end of the playoffs.

00:13:11He's still a really good hockey player.

00:13:12He's someone you want on your team moving forward.

00:13:14But in order to get out and have a chance in this round

00:13:18and back in the series, he's got to be far better than he is.

00:13:21And that comes, number one, with managing the puck.

00:13:24He's turned it over far too much.

00:13:27He's trying to – I would love to say he's trying to make high-leverage plays.

00:13:32He's really not.

00:13:33I mean a lot of the turnovers have come from chipping it up the glass.

00:13:37I mean the one that he turned over – again, I'll acknowledge this.

00:13:42The one that he turned over midway through the third period, I love it.

00:13:46The one that he turns over to the middle of the ice.

00:13:49Turns over to the middle of the ice and ends up Forsling taking a clapper

00:13:53right down the slot that Swayman makes a save.

00:13:57I don't mind it because at least he recognized there,

00:14:00I got to get it to middle ice here.

00:14:02That's what's available.

00:14:03And I think on that turnover – I think Swayman might have been surprised

00:14:07by the pass and I think he got a stick on it that knocked it into Forsling's lane.

00:14:15Yes.

00:14:16He hasn't played well.

00:14:17I think everyone recognized that.

00:14:18He hasn't played to his level.

00:14:20In order to get back in the series, he's got to be better.

00:14:23He's got to be better at managing the puck.

00:14:28But I think he's got to have to get some help from a coaching staff

00:14:32as to establish, hey, here's what we need to do to beat these different four checks.

00:14:38If you recognize these early, let's go to this.

00:14:42Because, again, Florida sent a 1-2-2 and that weak side ice was available.

00:14:49Great.

00:14:50They made a couple of those passes tonight.

00:14:52Now, once Florida recognized that, they went to a wide 1-2-2,

00:14:57taking away that pass.

00:14:58Now the middle ice becomes available.

00:15:00And then when they saw that that pass was available,

00:15:02now they're super connected.

00:15:04And this is what Florida does so well.

00:15:06And I don't remember if it was Spoke-Z talking about through and forecheck.

00:15:12It was. It was Spoke-Z.

00:15:13It was Spoke-Z.

00:15:14Florida's forecheck is so connected.

00:15:17And by that, I mean once they recognize that the first forechecker

00:15:21is going to make contact, those other two players are right up

00:15:25on an available player and they don't give you time and space

00:15:29the way that the Bruins have.

00:15:30And you would think, because you are so fearful of Florida's forecheck,

00:15:36that you wouldn't want to let them get the puck back.

00:15:38So you think that your forecheck would be more aggressive

00:15:41from the start of the game.

00:15:43Not wait until you're down 4-0 to change up.

00:15:47You've got to establish something early.

00:15:50And you've had the opportunity tonight, by whatever means, right,

00:15:56for you to get that crowd going.

00:15:58Bases were loaded.

00:16:00And as Luke Chason, one of our followers, would say,

00:16:04many ways to dictate the outcome, right?

00:16:07You could have been physical.

00:16:08You could have been physical.

00:16:10You could have got a goal.

00:16:11Maybe a little bit of a scrum.

00:16:13Maybe an altercation.

00:16:14You could have done a lot of things to get that crowd going.

00:16:17Three shots in the first period.

00:16:19That is striking out looking with the bases loaded.

00:16:25To me, that's the most concerning part, right?

00:16:28A lot of these things we've harped on and will continue to.

00:16:32Bad zone exits.

00:16:34Not a good enough forecheck.

00:16:35All that stuff.

00:16:36The fact that you came into tonight and, as you said, bases were loaded.

00:16:40All the juice was on your side in terms of momentum.

00:16:44You know, Chuck challenges your star player.

00:16:46And your star player goes with it.

00:16:49And you come out and get three shots and just do nothing in the first.

00:16:55Like, to me, that's where the issue is.

00:16:57I don't understand.

00:17:01It was set up there.

00:17:02Now, granted, and I'm not making excuses for that.

00:17:05Darren Drager reported today that Colin Campbell was in the building tonight

00:17:08for supplementary discipline on things to make sure things didn't go haywire.

00:17:12You can still create momentum.

00:17:16You can still.

00:17:17And, you know, they did finish hits.

00:17:19But there just wasn't enough other stuff.

00:17:21And it's funny because off the first, the opening draw,

00:17:23Coyle went right, you know, on the faceoff,

00:17:25went to the other side of the red line to talk to Barkoff,

00:17:27like right in his ear, right before the draw.

00:17:29And then he got kicked out.

00:17:30Marchand went in and did the same thing.

00:17:31And I thought, okay, that's going to be a tone setter.

00:17:33They're going to be all over the Panthers tonight.

00:17:34They're going to be physical.

00:17:35They're going to be hard.

00:17:36They're going to be hard on the forward check.

00:17:38And then they just weren't.

00:17:40And the building was dead.

00:17:42I mean, this place didn't really, like, come alive until that DeBrusco.

00:17:48And then I was like, all right.

00:17:50But, again, it's too little too late.

00:17:52So, I mean, you have this opportunity in front of you,

00:17:55and that's what worries me, right?

00:17:56If they lost 5-4 tonight and had all those other issues,

00:17:59but they came out way better in the first.

00:18:01Okay, you know what?

00:18:02They lost a close game.

00:18:03There are things they can fix.

00:18:05You know, you move on.

00:18:06But to – and, again, I know, you know, it was an empty netter

00:18:09and then a last-minute goal, so you make it 4-2.

00:18:11But it was 4-0 through – no, it was 3-0 through two periods.

00:18:16Like, to me, that's unacceptable to have that opportunity in front of you

00:18:20in a big Game 3.

00:18:21Everybody knows Game 3s are where series kind of shift, right?

00:18:24The Panthers now have every ounce of momentum coming out of this game

00:18:28because they came in here and they survived what was supposed to be

00:18:31kind of a tough night for them.

00:18:33And, you know, they just – they controlled the game.

00:18:37They dictated the game, and they made the Bruins chase all night.

00:18:39And part of that's the Bruins' fault for lack of execution and strategy.

00:18:44Another part of that is just not rising to the moment at all.

00:18:48Like, that, to me, is extremely concerning because, you know,

00:18:54what are they going to look like coming out in Game 4?

00:18:56Is this going to be what wakes them up?

00:18:58I thought, you know, what happened at the end of Game 2

00:19:00would be what does it, but just nothing at all.

00:19:03Nothing at all.

00:19:05Disappointing.

00:19:06It's funny.

00:19:07People were asking me this morning.

00:19:08They were like, tonight's going to be crazy at the Garden, right?

00:19:10I'm like, when you expect it, it doesn't happen.

00:19:14So I had a feeling coming in like, okay, it's never as good as you think.

00:19:18Laurie, Carl, you know.

00:19:20You've been around longer than me.

00:19:21When nothing's as good as you think it's going to be,

00:19:23and nothing is as bad as you think it's going to be.

00:19:26Tonight was – I knew it wasn't going to be as good as people thought,

00:19:29but I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it ended up becoming.

00:19:32So just bad tonight, I thought.

00:19:39But that's where we're at.

00:19:41That's where we're at.

00:19:42Something has – you've got to figure it out.

00:19:44And if it's a game, it might be on – and we're talking about the start here.

00:19:51This is what I'm talking about.

00:19:52If it's a game here and there, you say it's – and maybe it's on the coach.

00:19:58Maybe you took on the personality of the mannerisms that coach that day,

00:20:03depending on what he's talking about pregame.

00:20:06This is now – you look at games five and six in Toronto.

00:20:10You look at games two and three here where your starts just aren't good enough,

00:20:15where you're going through two periods of play with under 10 shots

00:20:19in each of those four games.

00:20:21At some point, that's on the players.

00:20:24That's on the players.

00:20:28Now, I don't think you have a roster that's good enough to compete with Florida

00:20:31over the course of a seven-game series.

00:20:34In order for you to beat them, everything has to go right,

00:20:37and you've got to play to your maximum potential.

00:20:41But for four games across, huge playoff games,

00:20:45and you've come out with nothing.

00:20:47That's on that locker room really because you don't get many kicks at the can

00:20:54to have an opportunity to win a Stanley Cup.

00:20:56Again, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Boston's capable

00:20:59of winning a Stanley Cup.

00:21:01But if you get your breaks like you did in 2019,

00:21:04you're sitting in the Stanley Cup finals,

00:21:06and who the hell knows what can happen in that scenario.

00:21:10You had it on the road where you went up 1-0, right?

00:21:16Great win, and that game two was huge.

00:21:19It didn't go your way, so you thought, all right.

00:21:23All right.

00:21:24And I did.

00:21:25I thought, they are going to push back tonight, and if they lose,

00:21:28it's going to be a 3-2 tight checking.

00:21:31But they gave it everything to see if they could push back at Florida.

00:21:38And I don't mean physically, but I mean with energy, with forecheck,

00:21:41with shots, and getting to that interior ice that you talk about.

00:21:47And they didn't do any of that until they were down 4-0.

00:21:50No, they didn't.

00:21:52At least they didn't get a too many men call tonight.

00:21:54Got to give them credit.

00:21:55Got to give them some credit, right?

00:21:57They didn't take a too many men call.

00:21:59Some interesting quotes out of the locker room.

00:22:01Montgomery, quote, I got to come up with a better game plan.

00:22:05That's a pretty big quote, so we'll see if anything comes of that.

00:22:10I mean, again, like we've talked about this,

00:22:13and they keep running back the same breakout.

00:22:16And this is two straight years now with Montgomery.

00:22:19Moving puck out of their own zone.

00:22:23And, you know, I forget what their breakout was last year.

00:22:30But Florida forechecked the hell out of them, I remember that.

00:22:34But, again, like they had the same breakout for the whole playoff,

00:22:38for the last two series now.

00:22:40And what would you check game plan-wise, right?

00:22:43You're going into game four.

00:22:44What are you changing?

00:22:46So you can't have a set breakout, right?

00:22:48And I think you look at and, right,

00:22:52not that many people pay attention to the hirings of the Montreal Canadiens,

00:22:57but when Martin St. Louis was picked as a head coach at Montreal,

00:23:03he said this, right?

00:23:04He's like, you can't have systems and or structure because the game changes

00:23:10shift to shift.

00:23:12So you've got to be able to make reads.

00:23:13Now, as a coaching staff, you've got to help through video

00:23:16and then you're walking through it at a practice.

00:23:19What are the reads that you're seeing?

00:23:23Like every time a quarterback calls out, what is it, Mike is 52,

00:23:29like the mid-inside linebacker or whatever, right?

00:23:33What are the tells that Florida is going to go into this 1-2-2?

00:23:37If I recognize that right away, and that read would be on the F3,

00:23:42I see that that F3 is sitting high and they're all on one side of the ice.

00:23:46All right, I got to get the puck to the other side.

00:23:49Right now, and this falls on Lindholm a lot,

00:23:52and I talked about it in the last series,

00:23:54he turns over the puck a lot because he never shoulder checks.

00:23:57So he doesn't know what's coming.

00:24:00And this is where it's hard to make those reads

00:24:05if that first forward checker from Florida is so aggressive.

00:24:09But can you have some urgencies in your retrievals?

00:24:12Can you give that quick shoulder check?

00:24:14And now you're reading F3-ish really,

00:24:17like whoever that middle guy is supposed to be.

00:24:21Is he in the middle of the ice?

00:24:23Is he on that weak side?

00:24:25Or is he coming after me right away, right, with that 2-1-2?

00:24:30Those are hard.

00:24:32And you're going to have a different breakout

00:24:34based off what you think you're seeing.

00:24:37And that is at that level with those players,

00:24:41that's a conversation.

00:24:43That is you get up on the whiteboard and you say,

00:24:45all right, hey, they're going to do a soft 1-2-2.

00:24:49Let's go D-to-D.

00:24:51Let's come out the weak side.

00:24:53Maybe what I would do if you see that 1-2-2 is you go weak side

00:24:58and you stretch like a winger somewhere along the way

00:25:02just to pull Florida's defense out.

00:25:05If it goes to that 1-2-2 wide where the second 4-checker

00:25:09is a little bit wider, now that middle of the rink is open

00:25:13that Charlie McAvoy tried to hit.

00:25:16And then 2-1-2, it's a little bit harder.

00:25:19It would be some sort of reverse to a defenseman or a center.

00:25:26And so it's just going to be showing video clips of maybe –

00:25:31and they would have the advanced stats, I would think,

00:25:34on 4-check of what you see more often, what you see

00:25:37in different scenarios, maybe different patterns of the game,

00:25:41up a goal, down a goal, what kind of 4-checks are they giving.

00:25:46To me it just looks like they are just really showing you

00:25:51different looks to confuse you as much as you can.

00:25:53The only one consistent being is that that first 4-checker

00:25:57is aggressive and physical.

00:26:00What do you do about a guy like McAvoy who clearly seems

00:26:04to be fighting it right now with the puck?

00:26:06At times doing a little too much, turning it over.

00:26:10How as a coach do you approach that with a guy or a kid or whoever?

00:26:17What's the strategy there?

00:26:21Yeah, I don't think it's too different than what he did last night

00:26:25or yesterday in his press conference where he's trying to build him up.

00:26:30I think he's in an incredibly difficult situation in the sense that

00:26:37in order for him to be effective, he needs to be physical.

00:26:42Knowing that Florida and Toronto targeted him, like he gets hits

00:26:46more than six times a game every night.

00:26:52I'm just in his ear telling him how important he is to our team.

00:26:56You're going to find your game.

00:26:58Simplify the passes, five-foot passes.

00:27:00Don't look to try to do too much.

00:27:04This would be the key thing for him.

00:27:08Don't try to out-skate the first defender.

00:27:10Get to it, make your read, make the first pass you see.

00:27:14That's it.

00:27:15A lot of the time he tries to beat that first 4-checker

00:27:18and then the game speeds up on him a little bit too much.

00:27:23You're important to us.

00:27:25You're taking a lot of minutes.

00:27:28You've been doing a great job eating minutes for us.

00:27:32Make the simple play.

00:27:34Let's get it out of our own end right now.

00:27:37Yeah, there hasn't been enough.

00:27:38There hasn't been enough of him executing those,

00:27:42and I think it's hurting them.

00:27:44I think right before low-rise high-sticking penalty,

00:27:48the Bruins had their first long offensive zone sequence in the game.

00:27:52I think it was the second period,

00:27:54and it was McAvoy who gave the puck away.

00:27:57I think it was a neutral ice at the top of the zone.

00:28:03And it's little plays like that.

00:28:05And again, that doesn't directly lead to a goal,

00:28:07but the Panthers scored twice on that low-ride penalty.

00:28:11So again, I think it just wasn't their night.

00:28:15There's a lot of work that needs to be done.

00:28:17We'll actually have some sound coming soon from the locker room

00:28:20because our great producer, Ahmed, is here.

00:28:23But he'll let me know when those are in.

00:28:26There's a lot I think we can get to

00:28:29in terms of where we think this series is going,

00:28:32what Florida's doing so well.

00:28:35We might have to discuss the goalies, Carl.

00:28:37Just for a little bit, we might have to.

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00:29:53Now, back to the show.

00:29:58In terms of things that went his way,

00:30:01Sam Bennett coming back was huge.

00:30:04Sam Bennett comes in, first or second shift,

00:30:07him being back just rocks David Pasternak along the wall.

00:30:12Pasternak turned to do something with the puck

00:30:15and just got crushed.

00:30:16Bennett finished with seven hits.

00:30:20I think him being back in the series

00:30:22swings obviously momentum in their favor

00:30:24because now they're a two-line team.

00:30:28They're more than just a one-line go type team.

00:30:34Someone said, CLNS, I like the over on Evan

00:30:36talking about goaltending in the next five minutes.

00:30:38Now I'm going to go, I guess I'll see.

00:30:42I'll play with you on that one.

00:30:44But I think Bennett, I do think he swings things for Florida.

00:30:48I think he gives them an ad.

00:30:49I think it helps Kachuck.

00:30:51I just, you mentioned it like with game two,

00:30:54it was like, okay, you at least got one out of no Bennett.

00:30:59But I do think he makes a real difference.

00:31:02No, he's a good player.

00:31:04He is a player that every team wants

00:31:07in the sense that he's physical.

00:31:10He plays the game hard, but he's able to chip in offensively.

00:31:14And you look at the second power play goal,

00:31:18he passes it through the seam there to Tarasenko.

00:31:23And you heard the telecast talk about it.

00:31:25That was a pregame scout.

00:31:28See how Boston's penalty killers adjust up top,

00:31:33but he's still a good enough player to make those seam passes

00:31:37and finishes the game with seven hits

00:31:40and probably is a more effective player in the playoffs

00:31:45than he is in the regular season because ice gets tighter

00:31:50and he can play in tighter ice.

00:31:52He can, he can.

00:31:54And I think that made a big difference tonight.

00:31:58I just, I'm just, I keep going back to,

00:32:02I'm just shocked at the Bruins lack of response.

00:32:04I thought that was the one, like, you know,

00:32:06we know offensively they're not great, right?

00:32:10They have holes offensively,

00:32:11but to not answer what happened last game to me is,

00:32:17you know, I don't know what their plan is.

00:32:18I don't know what was said in the room before.

00:32:20We'll get some audio here in a bit,

00:32:22but I just don't understand the lack of response.

00:32:24One interesting thing though, offensively,

00:32:26both Bruins goals came from shots upstairs, shots upstairs.

00:32:32And we, you know, we said it after game two,

00:32:36I will say it after game three, I'm not sold on Bobrovsky.

00:32:40Like he's not, again,

00:32:41he's not getting enough shots to backstop them to two wins.

00:32:44But I mean, you know, you're not even getting enough chances.

00:32:49And a lot of the stuff is perimeter

00:32:51when they are in the offensive zone.

00:32:53And I just, I don't, you've got to shoot on this guy more.

00:32:57Like these shots from,

00:32:58and I will say there were a couple of shots through traffic

00:33:02that he didn't see that either just missed the net

00:33:05or trickled just past him to brusk at the crossbar.

00:33:09Like he's beatable, he is beatable,

00:33:12but they're not getting enough chances

00:33:14for those bounces to go their way.

00:33:18I don't even know what to say to that at this point

00:33:21because CLNS, if you don't possess the puck,

00:33:26you can't shoot the puck.

00:33:27And when you have the puck and you don't shoot the puck,

00:33:30how are you ever going to test high glove,

00:33:32high blocker on Bobrovsky?

00:33:34Yeah.

00:33:35Well, I know.

00:33:36I'm just saying like you need to get to that point.

00:33:38Yeah.

00:33:39No.

00:33:40So he's beatable instead of playing around

00:33:42with the puck on the outside,

00:33:43shoot the puck and see what happens.

00:33:47I know.

00:33:48And I know that at some point in this comment section,

00:33:53essentially talking about old-time hockey,

00:33:56dump it in, that's stupid, dump and chase.

00:34:00The last two teams that you've played in the playoffs,

00:34:03it's dump and chase, it's physical, it's interior ice,

00:34:06that's how you win the playoffs.

00:34:08The game hasn't evolved that much.

00:34:12We're playing IHF rules with wide rank and no hitting.

00:34:19This is still the National Hockey League.

00:34:23The game is played on a tighter rank and it's playoff hockey.

00:34:26Shoot the puck, get to the net.

00:34:28That's what I don't get.

00:34:31So they play with it on the perimeter, it gets to the point,

00:34:35and then the play just dies.

00:34:37It gets to the point and then nothing happens.

00:34:39And it's like, okay, they either throw it down low

00:34:42and Florida picks it up and just breaks it out

00:34:44or they shoot into traffic.

00:34:46But again, when they have it,

00:34:48and you saw it in the third period a little bit more,

00:34:50they just threw it on net more.

00:34:52And at least it generated chances.

00:34:54At least it generated chances of chances.

00:35:00I mean, again, you hit on it.

00:35:03They didn't have the puck enough in the first and second period

00:35:05to really even do that.

00:35:06And their forecheck's not aggressive enough

00:35:09for when they do dump it in,

00:35:11there's no ability to even get the puck back.

00:35:15And I don't know if they think that the 1-2-2 being super passive

00:35:21is what's going to force turnovers.

00:35:23Because even then, a lot of times,

00:35:25if Florida's D have the puck below the faceoff dot

00:35:29and they're skating out of the zone,

00:35:31a lot of times the two forwards that are high

00:35:34are back between the red line and blue line already.

00:35:37And so even if they do turn it over,

00:35:39look where you're at.

00:35:41So I just – there's a lot that goes into it.

00:35:51I think Evan's Wi-Fi might have cut out.

00:35:56And for me – oh, sorry.

00:36:00Did you cut out?

00:36:01Am I back? Am I back?

00:36:02Yeah, I was just about to take over.

00:36:04I think I was about to take over, and that's what everyone –

00:36:07they were looking forward to that.

00:36:09They were looking forward to that.

00:36:10They were. They were.

00:36:11It's your show. You can have it.

00:36:12I'll head out of here. I'll see you guys later.

00:36:14No, I mean – so the 1-2-2 will work with turnovers

00:36:23if your first forechecker is ferocious.

00:36:28That hunts the puck with such ferocity and is physical

00:36:32that puts the fear in you that you've got to chip the puck

00:36:35and get rid of it.

00:36:37Otherwise, if that player – and for the most part,

00:36:40Boston's forecheck – that first forechecker is not hunting.

00:36:45He's just there to – I don't know what he's there to do.

00:36:50All right, I'll tell you what he's there to do.

00:36:52The first forechecker is there to force you up the strong side,

00:36:55not really there to hit you right now.

00:36:57It's not really to put stick on puck.

00:36:59It's just to try to put you and angle you into this one spot.

00:37:02But Toronto did it all – again, going to Toronto

00:37:08because this is what Florida does.

00:37:10If it gets back out that weak side, that defenseman has plenty of time

00:37:16and space because the other two forecheckers are sitting back.

00:37:20So it doesn't matter.

00:37:21It doesn't matter.

00:37:22Evan, no offense to you or I, if we were that second defenseman

00:37:27and we got the puck on the weak side and we're not under duress,

00:37:30we could make a 10-, 20-foot pass.

00:37:33I know – we could do it.

00:37:35Could skate it if I needed to.

00:37:37I don't know.

00:37:38It'd be quick.

00:37:39But we could at least make a pass.

00:37:40We could at least make a pass.

00:37:41We'll give ourselves the pass.

00:37:43I think you could.

00:37:44I don't know.

00:37:45At the NHL level, I don't think I could.

00:37:46You proved you could.

00:37:47I'm not remotely close to that.

00:37:49Men's league, sure.

00:37:50Sure.

00:37:51Men's league or high school hockey, sure.

00:37:53But not quite the NHL.

00:37:55You know who I thought played a good game tonight?

00:37:59I thought Jakob Lauko actually did bring energy.

00:38:03And we actually had an audio from the locker room talking about that play.

00:38:08I think it's that drive to the net.

00:38:10So here's Jakob Lauko.

00:38:11Are you seeing this?

00:38:21Is he talking?

00:38:22I see the video, but he's not saying anything.

00:38:25Yeah.

00:38:26We're going to remove him.

00:38:27All right.

00:38:28Sorry, guys.

00:38:29Maybe not quite yet.

00:38:30I don't know if I can say something about it,

00:38:32but I don't know what's the role in this particular play.

00:38:36But I don't have much room to avoid a goalie.

00:38:38I guess.

00:38:40What do you mean by coming inside him?

00:38:42It seems like he's…

00:38:43Did you get a little shout into the goal in that rush?

00:38:46I mean, yeah, I was trying to get to the net and just ended up in a goalie.

00:38:50Like, I don't know.

00:38:51I felt that the defenseman was holding me and kind of pushing me inside.

00:38:56So I don't know.

00:38:57Like, what am I supposed to do to avoid it?

00:38:59How frustrating was that for you and your team to go through that?

00:39:03I mean, obviously, like, you know, like,

00:39:06those are things that are kind of hard to accept.

00:39:10But, you know, that's the part of the game and we need to play through it.

00:39:17Yeah, again, I thought…

00:39:20I don't know how that was called goal interference.

00:39:22You could see him get pushed by Vlad and, you know,

00:39:26I think the fan response pretty much tells you that that was not a penalty.

00:39:30There were a lot of questionable calls tonight.

00:39:32I mean, there was that interference on Morgan Geeky early.

00:39:35It was just finishing a hit and they called that.

00:39:38And, you know, they clearly didn't want the game to get out of hand.

00:39:41And there were some makeup calls for Florida, too.

00:39:44And it's not why the Bruins lost.

00:39:46But, I mean, the officiating tonight was not good.

00:39:50Lauko, though, I do think was an added boost to you.

00:39:55I mean, he was quick on pucks.

00:39:57I thought he was quick on forward checks.

00:39:59He was super physical.

00:40:01He was in everything.

00:40:02But you need him like that all the time, right?

00:40:04We've seen this a couple of times where he comes into the lineup,

00:40:06does that, and then over the course of time kind of teeters off

00:40:09and then needs to be, like, sat down again.

00:40:11So he does it.

00:40:12But, I mean, you know, he gets a goal tonight on an ice.

00:40:14Again, shot it high.

00:40:16It goes in.

00:40:18But I think for what he can do for checking-wise physicality,

00:40:22to me he stays in this series, I think.

00:40:25Yeah, I think you're at the point where you probably play your fastest lineup.

00:40:29I think some of the commenters have been spot on in the sense that being

00:40:33overly physical with Florida is not going to scare them.

00:40:37It's what they do.

00:40:39They play hard on every shift.

00:40:44So as Boston's lineup, you've got to get a little bit quicker.

00:40:47You've got to put more pressure on them.

00:40:49You've got to put more pressure on their D.

00:40:51You've got to close – like we talked about the other day,

00:40:53you've got to close out defensively, which I think they, by and large,

00:40:56do a better job of eliminating those shots from the point.

00:40:59But you've got to play with more pace.

00:41:02And I don't know what's available to you,

00:41:05but your lineup has got to get faster.

00:41:08And it's got to get faster.

00:41:12You've got to create turnovers with your speed.

00:41:15And Loko does that.

00:41:17And I think he deserves to stay in.

00:41:21But you're going to have to adjust that lineup.

00:41:25Right?

00:41:26Like who knows if you have Marsh on or not.

00:41:28I know they said upper body injury.

00:41:30But, yeah, you've got to get quicker.

00:41:37Again, there was no update on Marsh.

00:41:39And I don't believe they didn't have it at that time.

00:41:42And he was slowing it up a couple times.

00:41:44I remember Sam Bennett and him collided early in the game.

00:41:48And he was slow to get off the ice.

00:41:50And he was very involved with the physicality of it.

00:41:53So, again, I don't think they had an update.

00:41:57In the event he doesn't play in game four,

00:42:00I mean, that's a huge loss.

00:42:02I don't care what people think of Marsh.

00:42:04That's a big loss.

00:42:06You've got to reshuffle the deck.

00:42:08You've got to figure out your top six.

00:42:10Right?

00:42:11Like off the top of my head, you've got already there in the top six.

00:42:15You've got DeBrusque, Fieke, Coyle, Zaka, and Pasternak.

00:42:22So who moves in?

00:42:23I mean, do you move Frederick in?

00:42:25Like that's the question for me of how do you replace that?

00:42:29Because that's a big chunk of your offense gone.

00:42:33He's your captain.

00:42:34Like I don't know exactly how you would replace him.

00:42:39You know?

00:42:40Like that's a huge loss if you don't have him Sunday.

00:42:43Huge loss.

00:42:44Yeah, look at your top six.

00:42:46If you're out Marsh on, which is difficult to replace.

00:42:50I don't think you have anyone that's left that can potentially help you there.

00:42:54You've gotten less than zero from Zaka.

00:42:59And you can see for Montgomery, he's not sure what to do with Paolo Zaka right now

00:43:05because he's floating around on different lines.

00:43:08He's moving from center to wing.

00:43:09He's kind of been a little bit all over the place.

00:43:12And that's going to be a level of frustration obviously for Zaka,

00:43:17but for Montgomery too because you've got two assists through 10 games.

00:43:22Right?

00:43:23Does that sound correct?

00:43:25With who did you just mention?

00:43:28With Paolo Zaka.

00:43:30Yeah, it hasn't been nearly enough.

00:43:33And then Charlie Coyle's got three or four points in the playoffs.

00:43:38I mean, so you were pushing back at me all year

00:43:45when I told you.

00:43:46You did, right?

00:43:47Don't – hey.

00:43:48I did.

00:43:49Oh, I did.

00:43:50During the –

00:43:51Comment section.

00:43:52Because it looked fine.

00:43:53I just want to say, comment section.

00:43:57All year are the people that have tuned in nicely to listen to the two of us talk

00:44:02for the majority of the playoffs.

00:44:03Thank you, A.

00:44:04But then B, all year I said to Evan that you don't have a good enough

00:44:11first line center to win playoff games.

00:44:16Where are we at right now?

00:44:21They haven't been.

00:44:22They haven't been.

00:44:23They haven't been.

00:44:24And to me, I think they looked good enough throughout the year

00:44:28where I thought they could –

00:44:30my whole thing was they didn't need to add a center at the deadline

00:44:33because how were you going to do that?

00:44:35That was my big thing, right?

00:44:36They do need one.

00:44:37They do need one.

00:44:38Like there's no doubt.

00:44:41We said this after game six.

00:44:42If you can go out in the offseason and trade for a number one center,

00:44:46you do that.

00:44:47You have to do that.

00:44:50Who are you going to trade?

00:44:52We talked about this.

00:44:53That is the other part of it.

00:44:55Let's not get there now.

00:44:56Still, we'll keep that.

00:44:58We'll see it ahead.

00:44:59And you have Patra, obviously, and that's a very exciting thing.

00:45:02You don't know what you have in him quite yet.

00:45:07I think the lack of a play-driving center at the moment that can set up

00:45:12and make plays and skate through zones and zone entries,

00:45:19you don't really have that at the moment.

00:45:21There was even a shift where Montgomery took Zaka off that line.

00:45:26It was Maroon, Geeky, and Pasternak for a time.

00:45:30To me, I wonder,

00:45:34and this is something that we'll probably get into later on in this

00:45:37playoff series and when the offseason begins,

00:45:40I do wonder if they look at Zaka as a wing going forward.

00:45:46Face-off-wise, play-driving,

00:45:49I wonder if they look at him as a long-term wing over that.

00:45:56Going into this season and I think even throughout the season,

00:46:00I thought, okay, he might be a number one center,

00:46:03but the more these playoffs have gone on,

00:46:06teams are just kind of shutting him down

00:46:08and there doesn't seem to be any pushback from him, right?

00:46:11From Zaka?

00:46:13Yeah.

00:46:14No, I don't think that's his game.

00:46:19I think that's why they probably view him as a left winger,

00:46:24left winger long-term is because below the goal line,

00:46:27he doesn't provide you with any pushback.

00:46:33He's not really going to win one-on-one battles there behind the net

00:46:38in order to break pucks out.

00:46:40So I think you put him in a situation where I think what he does really well

00:46:44is he puts pucks into space,

00:46:47allows his teammates to kind of be successful

00:46:49because he does see the ice well.

00:46:51So at that wing position,

00:46:54probably suits his skill set a little bit more

00:46:58than having to be below the goal line defender.

00:47:02I don't think he's ever really going to be good at that.

00:47:05I think he can be a successful second-line left winger

00:47:10like he was not this current year,

00:47:12but the year before when he was playing with Pasternak and Treachy.

00:47:17Yeah, I don't think he should be traded either.

00:47:19There are some people alluding to that.

00:47:21We have some sound from Brandon Carlo in the locker room.

00:47:25So we'll cut to that right now.

00:47:29You know what Brandon Carlo has to say.

00:47:30You couldn't really generate much the first two periods.

00:47:32Some desperation got you going into the third.

00:47:34What are your emotions after this as you look on it

00:47:36and now going into game four?

00:47:38Yeah, I think you try and take some positive from the third period there.

00:47:41We did have a little bit of a push, created some opportunities.

00:47:45I will say that he made some good saves as well.

00:47:47And then we obviously put two in the back of the net.

00:47:49So you look for the positives within that.

00:47:52We're always going to look at the things that we don't like about our game

00:47:55and learn from them.

00:47:56But regardless, that game's in the past now and we have to look forward.

00:48:00So I would say just take what we can from the opportunities

00:48:04that we did generate and from there work on the rest.

00:48:10Yeah, I mean, what he said.

00:48:13I just don't understand what he's saying.

00:48:16I don't get where's the push?

00:48:19Where is the push at the start?

00:48:22I can't get over that.

00:48:24That's my biggest takeaway from this game is where was the push?

00:48:28David, I just don't get that.

00:48:31And again, this is the one thing we said earlier.

00:48:35That's something you've seen four times throughout this playoffs so far.

00:48:39Games two and three of this one.

00:48:42I understood game two here in Florida

00:48:45because Florida's too good to play the way they did in game one.

00:48:48You knew that there was going to be significant pushback from Florida.

00:48:52So Boston flat 16 shots through three periods.

00:48:58My expectation tonight was a physical brand of hockey in the first period

00:49:06where everything was thrown at net.

00:49:08Understanding what we've talked about.

00:49:11Vulnerability from Bob Roski up top.

00:49:15It never came to fruition.

00:49:17Three shots.

00:49:19And so this wasn't a tonight-only situation.

00:49:25This is a pattern with this team throughout the playoffs

00:49:29where they haven't shown up to start games.

00:49:31And if you don't show up to start games here in the playoffs,

00:49:36you're not going to be successful.

00:49:38You can't consistently put yourself in a scenario

00:49:40where you've got to claw your way back into games.

00:49:44That's where fatigue sets in because it's hard to chase the game all the time.

00:49:50And the last, whatever that is now, four of the last six games,

00:49:55you're chasing it.

00:49:57Yeah.

00:49:59Chasing it big.

00:50:00And to me, when it was 3-0 after the second,

00:50:03it's like this team does not have enough offensive firepower

00:50:06to complete a comeback.

00:50:07Now, they did get two goals.

00:50:08I'll give them that.

00:50:09And they did have a good power play after.

00:50:11But they just didn't.

00:50:13There's, to me, like from how I saw it tonight,

00:50:16like David Pasternak was trying to make plays.

00:50:18I didn't think Pasternak had a bad game tonight.

00:50:21It's just me.

00:50:23But, you know, there's not that next guy that can help.

00:50:28For so long, it was Pasternak with Bergeron and Marchand.

00:50:33Or even last year where it was Krejci, Pasternak, and Zaka.

00:50:37You know, Geeky's great for checking.

00:50:40He's a nice plug-in guy in the top six in January when you have an injury.

00:50:46He's not a permanent guy up there.

00:50:48And I don't know if Zaka can drive a line.

00:50:53So, to me, like that's where you do need supplementary offensive help.

00:50:57But if it's a number one center, again, this is all stuff down the road.

00:51:01I don't want to like booey this down with trade talk now.

00:51:05You know, the series is 2-1.

00:51:07The Bruins could easily come out in game four

00:51:08and wipe the floor with Florida like they did in game one.

00:51:11It's like we're like, oh my God, this team.

00:51:13But they're unpredictable.

00:51:14That's the problem, right, Carl?

00:51:15Like this is a very up and down, peaks and valley.

00:51:19You never – they are truly a box of chocolate Bruins.

00:51:22You never know what you're going to get.

00:51:24And that's what they've been all year.

00:51:26They are this series.

00:51:28And so this is why – and I'm not saying he would have won it.

00:51:30This is why I think Pasternak was a heart trophy candidate.

00:51:36Like all year people had talked about the disparity between Kucherov

00:51:39and the next highest score, which was Braden Point.

00:51:42There is no one close to Braden Point on this team right now.

00:51:47Like I think by and large people would see that as Brad Marchand,

00:51:50but he's not the same player that he was two years ago.

00:51:54So you had a guy that had 110 points and then the next –

00:51:57what's Marchand at 67, something like that.

00:52:01I think it was 67 points.

00:52:03Yeah, the comment section is right.

00:52:06Like if you shut down Pasternak, who are you concerned at taking over a game?

00:52:14There is no one.

00:52:15Like Charlie Coyle has proven when he's a third option, he's a great player.

00:52:20Like that team is going to be really successful if Charlie Coyle is a third-line guy

00:52:23because that's a match-up nightmare.

00:52:25The same like Morgan Geeky, exactly what you say he is.

00:52:29He's a very nice player in the National Hockey League.

00:52:31If he has to fill in on that second line, great.

00:52:34But he's not a long-term solution like you're trying to make him right now.

00:52:37But I want him.

00:52:39Yeah, I want a guy like him. I want a guy like him.

00:52:42I want him and his 39 points at 38 points on my third line.

00:52:46Like that's hard to replicate.

00:52:48There's not many of those guys floating around that can play center,

00:52:51that can play wing, that can spot in my second line every now and again

00:52:56and produce and keep the regular season playoff –

00:53:01sorry, the regular season train going is what he did at times this year.

00:53:05But you ask him to do something that's outside of his capabilities,

00:53:08then that's when you struggle.

00:53:10That's where you're at right now.

00:53:11You're asking him to play top six minutes consistently over 10 games.

00:53:15He's not going to produce at that level.

00:53:17But keep him.

00:53:19Very good player.

00:53:20I want him, but there is no second layer of attack.

00:53:27It becomes now you have – maybe you've got two third lines

00:53:31as opposed to a second, third, and fourth line, right?

00:53:35That's the problem.

00:53:37Yeah, you've got two third lines and then a fourth line.

00:53:40That's the issue.

00:53:42That right there is the issue.

00:53:44Any other issues, you can't get the puck out of your own zone,

00:53:46unless you have good enough D back there that you'd be able to do it.

00:53:49We're going to have Jim Montgomery on in a second.

00:53:52Not us.

00:53:53He's not going to come sit here and be like, hey.

00:53:57Hey, Monty, pull up a chair.

00:54:00What happened tonight?

00:54:02It won't be that.

00:54:04But his presser will air that.

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00:56:00Now, back to the show.

00:56:03So we should have Jim Montgomery coming up here in a second.

00:56:08This was after the game tonight,

00:56:11so we'll take it to Jim Montgomery.

00:56:15How much of it was you

00:56:18and how much of it was them just being better?

00:56:20Me, personally?

00:56:23It's not time for jokes, probably, right?

00:56:27We started well the first two games.

00:56:30We started well the first two games.

00:56:33I think you're referring to Toronto series?

00:56:35Yeah.

00:56:36Yeah, we've had a couple of games where we started slow

00:56:39and we haven't generated much offense.

00:56:41We've got to get better.

00:56:42I have to give the players a better plan.

00:56:46Florida was significantly better than us,

00:56:48and I've got to come up with a better game plan.

00:56:50Go ahead, Tara.

00:56:52Jim, you weren't afraid to say last game,

00:56:54we need some more from our big players.

00:56:56This is in the postseason, you make big plays.

00:56:58Are you getting enough from your best players?

00:57:02Yeah, I thought Swayman, Posta,

00:57:06I thought they were our two best players tonight.

00:57:10You said a couple of times,

00:57:11now that's on me, I've got to do this and so forth.

00:57:13Are you speaking in terms of preparing the team mentally for the game?

00:57:17Whichever way you want to take it, it's not good enough.

00:57:19We didn't play well enough.

00:57:21That's why I take the responsibility.

00:57:23Just to finish the question,

00:57:24are you suggesting that changes might be made for the next game

00:57:27or is it just the latter?

00:57:30It's too early to be able to talk about changes.

00:57:35We've got to do our due diligence and look at the game again

00:57:39and see who is executing and who's playing with the effort

00:57:43that you guys have asked about.

00:57:47Did you notice, Carl, he was asked if his top players were performing,

00:57:52and he avoided talking about Zaka and McAvoy

00:57:56and the rest of the top six.

00:57:59It was all just Swayman and Pochnok and he did that.

00:58:02He's not calling anybody out at this moment.

00:58:04He's not.

00:58:05That was a break glass in case of an emergency thing with Pochnok

00:58:07after game six.

00:58:09What was your big takeaway from that?

00:58:12Yeah, I think two things,

00:58:14and I think they try to get there at the end,

00:58:16but a follow-up after is,

00:58:19what do you mean better game plan

00:58:20and not the question mental or the X's and O's.

00:58:27It's clearly the X's and O's.

00:58:28When you were talking about a better game plan,

00:58:32that's what he's talking about.

00:58:33I need to be better, X's and O's.

00:58:35I need to give them a better structure for them to be successful.

00:58:38The positive psychology at this point is out the window.

00:58:42You're not going to change that all that much.

00:58:46At this point, he knows how to handle his players,

00:58:48or at least he should.

00:58:49He knows the personalities there in the room and how to deal with them.

00:58:52What he's talking about, he has failed them,

00:58:56and this is me saying this.

00:58:57I'm saying he says he has failed them from a game preparation standpoint.

00:59:02What are the changes that you, and we've watched the games.

00:59:07Everyone here, for the most part, even six and a third from Toronto,

00:59:12thank you so much.

00:59:13You've watched the games six and a third against Florida, I'm guessing.

00:59:19The four checks are the same, the breakout, the zone exits are the same.

00:59:27Yes, periodically zone exits may be marginally different,

00:59:32but by and large, they're the same thing all the time.

00:59:35That is on him and that coaching stuff.

00:59:41They've got to make, and I think the easiest thing to change

00:59:45is that four check.

00:59:46Let them loose.

00:59:47So what?

00:59:48It's tiring to play a 2-1-2.

00:59:50Get after it.

00:59:522-1-2 in the first period, we'll come back with a 1-2-2

00:59:55in the second period and sit back.

00:59:57You've got to make a change.

00:59:59They haven't done it, and that's what he's talking about.

01:00:02The number two, what you're talking about, you didn't call it.

01:00:05I don't think it's really, I'm going to say this,

01:00:09and people are, you're not desperation, desperate, desperate?

01:00:14When did he call him out?

01:00:16It's 2-1.

01:00:17You're not at that point yet.

01:00:19Yeah, so I think that's why he doesn't want to call

01:00:26any of those guys out quite yet.

01:00:28Maybe after game four, if they're brutal again,

01:00:30then that's when he might have to call some of those guys out,

01:00:33or maybe he understands it too.

01:00:35Those guys aren't good enough to consistently call out.

01:00:39They're not going to be the ones.

01:00:41He could call it McAvoy.

01:00:43He could call it Pastner.

01:00:44He can call it Marshall.

01:00:45Those are guys that are good enough to turn a game on its head

01:00:50at any given moment, but I think we know Zaka and Coyle

01:00:57aren't capable of doing that in this series.

01:01:01We opened a can of worms with the Zaka stuff.

01:01:04The comments are just all Zaka.

01:01:06Lunchbox Lasers at one point said that Lysel was better than Zaka,

01:01:10and he's got Spoke Z.

01:01:12They're going at it.

01:01:14Gloves are dropped in the comments section.

01:01:19See, this is the thing, right?

01:01:22If they run it back in game four with all the same stuff,

01:01:27all the same typical breakouts, same types of forecheck,

01:01:31how do you expect to come out any different?

01:01:33And they haven't done that yet, by the way.

01:01:34They have not come out with the same things in game four,

01:01:36but in the event they do, you can't expect the game to be different.

01:01:39You can't expect to just suddenly win now.

01:01:42And that's where I think Montgomery has to make changes.

01:01:47You have to make structural changes.

01:01:49You have to watch a ton of film over the next day.

01:01:51And again, as you said, it's not always – breakouts aren't set.

01:01:56You can react to them.

01:01:59Sometimes, yes, your center comes down lower,

01:02:02but it's mostly read and react.

01:02:05Is it watching more film?

01:02:07I don't know if they'll practice.

01:02:09I haven't got an email yet about that.

01:02:11But it is watching more film and going over all that.

01:02:14They email you?

01:02:16Does Montgomery email you personally when they're going to practice?

01:02:19Yeah.

01:02:20He FaceTimes me and says,

01:02:22Evan, this is when we're practicing today.

01:02:24We would love for you to be there.

01:02:26Awesome.

01:02:27You have a seat.

01:02:28You have your own seat.

01:02:29It's just for you.

01:02:31This is your seat.

01:02:32No, it's not that.

01:02:34The Bruins PR sends out an email to all the media people of who's speaking

01:02:39and when practices.

01:02:41It's not – it would be funny if it was like a group text,

01:02:43and he accidentally said, man, the Bruins stink tonight,

01:02:45and he actually sent it in the group text with Montgomery in it.

01:02:48That would be a great one.

01:02:51I just – I think it comes down to the adjustments.

01:02:55There's a test.

01:02:57Because Florida's better.

01:02:58We've said this a thousand times.

01:03:00Florida is the better team.

01:03:02We both picked Florida.

01:03:03But that doesn't mean you just go, oh, it's great.

01:03:05We're in the second round.

01:03:07You have to make the adjustments.

01:03:10And I think they can make it close.

01:03:12I know I mentioned that the Bruins don't have the offensive firepower

01:03:15that the Panthers do.

01:03:17But I think they have the talent,

01:03:19and they've shown they've had the structure to keep it close

01:03:23and close enough to win.

01:03:25We saw it against Toronto.

01:03:27Game one, they beat them 5-1, so that's a different thing.

01:03:29But we saw it during the regular season against Florida.

01:03:32I think the reason that it's been close is Jeremy Swayman.

01:03:36Now we talk goaltending, right?

01:03:38Now is when we get into the goaltending.

01:03:40You won the bet there against – was it Kevin Walker?

01:03:45I think I won that bet because – did he say over five minutes

01:03:48that I would end up talking – within five minutes or under?

01:03:51I forget.

01:03:52I thought it was under.

01:03:53It's been a while.

01:03:54I forgot about it.

01:03:55I forgot about it.

01:03:56So, if he said under, then I guess I win.

01:04:00What do you go to in game four?

01:04:07I don't know.

01:04:08Right, like Swayman's been great, and he's not the reason

01:04:11that you're struggling in this series.

01:04:14There's a myriad of different things.

01:04:16It is – Florida's better.

01:04:20You're under duress consistently.

01:04:22You haven't made structural changes that will make you successful.

01:04:30I take a long pause because I think you need to try to do something

01:04:37to wake up the team.

01:04:40But I'm fearful of that because Swayman's been so great in that, right,

01:04:45it's essentially you're pulling out a guy that has been so good to wake up

01:04:49a team that's been so mediocre for – essentially, right,

01:04:53like if you even look at game seven until the third period,

01:04:57they were a mediocre team.

01:04:59They were.

01:05:00They were.

01:05:01Yeah.

01:05:02They were great through four games of that series, I thought.

01:05:06And they were great in game one.

01:05:08So, half the games, I guess, of the playoffs, they've been great.

01:05:12But the others, they've just been mediocre, and they're not –

01:05:15the way they played in games two and three is not going to get it done.

01:05:19Do you try to wake them up by putting Linus Ullmark in?

01:05:22Man, if – that's the way I'm leaning, but I hate it on my standpoint

01:05:27because Swayman has been so, so good.

01:05:31I had a goalie coach friend of mine said on the –

01:05:39that's the first bad goal he's let up all playoff series,

01:05:42was the Tarasenko snipe because he doesn't read the pass

01:05:47and then it's too deep in his net to get beat upstairs.

01:05:50He doesn't get out and challenge him.

01:05:52Rather, he doesn't read the pass well enough to get out and challenge him

01:05:55and kind of sits in on that goal crease.

01:05:57And obviously, Tarasenko is someone good enough to make that play.

01:06:01I hate that I'm saying try something different because if I try –

01:06:05if you – if I try – if the Bruins try something different

01:06:09and Linus Ullmark wins, then you've got to go back to him again.

01:06:14So –

01:06:15Well, I mean that's not a problem I don't think.

01:06:22No, that has to be addressed.

01:06:24Patrick Maroon should be out of the lineup.

01:06:27Really?

01:06:29Yeah, it doesn't –

01:06:31I mean he shouldn't be on line one, but I think –

01:06:34You need to get faster. You need to get faster.

01:06:38You need to get faster.

01:06:40The only great player – has he won three Stanley Cups?

01:06:45Yes, I believe that's correct.

01:06:48And he is, by all accounts, a valued member of any organization

01:06:55that he's been a part of.

01:06:59Unless you were standing next to him, he can't get to you to hit you.

01:07:02Maybe he's too fast for him.

01:07:08I don't know.

01:07:09Maybe out of the lineup is too harsh, but your lineup needs to get faster.

01:07:14I like just the immediate mention of Maroon.

01:07:17You're like –

01:07:19I don't think he should be out.

01:07:22I think he's where he should be.

01:07:23And if – to me, like if he adds – they do need to get faster.

01:07:28And Beecher and Lauko can provide that on that line.

01:07:33But I do like his added level of physicality,

01:07:36and I do like what he brings down low holding onto the pucks.

01:07:40Holding onto pucks and puck protection.

01:07:42What are you talking about?

01:07:44What?

01:07:45You like what he provides down low?

01:07:47That one shift we held onto a puck which was a one?

01:07:50That is the one shift I'm thinking of.

01:07:52Yeah, exactly.

01:07:55See, he brings the physicality on the forechecks.

01:07:59You need that.

01:08:00He doesn't even get into forecheck.

01:08:03Even as the second – when a guy like Beecher or Lauko is engaged in a battle

01:08:08down low, he can provide support.

01:08:11If they make the proper adjustments, he can provide the support.

01:08:14He's not coming out of the lineup.

01:08:16He just – he isn't.

01:08:17He isn't coming out of the lineup.

01:08:19I don't think he should.

01:08:21To go to your point, right,

01:08:23other than I would assume you would want like – you'd want Boquist in there

01:08:27so you'd have Lauko, Beecher.

01:08:30Is Heinen available?

01:08:32What's the other thing?

01:08:33Like if Heinen's available, then I think you make a real question.

01:08:36But I don't know.

01:08:37I like Maroon's physicality.

01:08:38I like the puck protection.

01:08:39I don't think it's a one shift.

01:08:41When you don't have possession of the pucks,

01:08:45it's great to have them for that one shift.

01:08:48When you do, when you do, when you do.

01:08:52Again, I think there's no way to take them out of the lineup.

01:08:55That's a deadline acquisition.

01:08:56They don't take those out.

01:08:57I don't think they take those out.

01:08:59So we were discussing the goalies.

01:09:01We were discussing the goalies.

01:09:03And you want Linus Olmark.

01:09:05I don't know.

01:09:06My initial thought was it is Swayman's net,

01:09:10and he's been damn good, and he has saved your ass a lot

01:09:14the last two games especially.

01:09:17However, and my stance on this is I want the goalie rotation.

01:09:24I've wanted the goalie rotation going into the playoffs.

01:09:27You got Spoke-Z.

01:09:28You got Spoke-Z on your, yes, that one shift.

01:09:32Good.

01:09:33If I'm on Spoke-Z's side, I must be doing something right.

01:09:35Spoke-Z, that one shift where they had a successful forecheck

01:09:40on all 16 shots tonight.

01:09:42Yeah, let's keep them in.

01:09:45Spoke-Z and you are both in top form.

01:09:48I like this version of Carl.

01:09:50This is awesome.

01:09:51I'm overtired right now.

01:09:53That's exactly it.

01:09:55We're going to go three more hours just to keep you like that.

01:09:57So when you and I go to the Mass Hockey Festival tomorrow,

01:10:00so Spoke-Z said people are calling it the shift.

01:10:03Carl, you're going to tell your grandkids someday about that.

01:10:06I am.

01:10:07You're going to tell your grandkids.

01:10:08Man, remember when Pat Maroon was stiff-arming people,

01:10:10just keeping people away from the puck?

01:10:13That was a real moment.

01:10:14I want Spoke-Z and Evan to tell me, from the shifts, right,

01:10:19what other shifts out there?

01:10:22The Darren Helm PK against, I think that was Colorado.

01:10:26Darren Helm, what else?

01:10:29Greg Campbell against the Penguins.

01:10:32And then the one time that Patrick Maroon possessed the puck

01:10:40for 15 seconds and it resulted in what?

01:10:43What did it result in?

01:10:45I blacked out after that.

01:10:47I don't remember what happened.

01:10:48It was just so stunning and it was so incredible that I just –

01:10:52Mike Richards was another.

01:10:53I think that was against the Habs.

01:10:55Yeah, it was against the Habs.

01:10:56A lot came out.

01:10:57Yes, that was perfect.

01:10:59Wrecked the goalie.

01:11:01Speaking of goalies, I keep putting this off.

01:11:05Okay, sorry.

01:11:06I wanted the rotation going into the playoffs.

01:11:09Swayman obviously has been so good.

01:11:11Vibes.

01:11:12It resulted in vibes, yes.

01:11:14That's exactly it.

01:11:16Vibes for 60, the Bruins lead the league in.

01:11:18People forget that.

01:11:19Vibes and friendship for 60, the Bruins lead the league in.

01:11:23My take going into game three tonight was, you know,

01:11:27if Swayman has a banner night again, you keep him in.

01:11:31But if things go haywire, you go with Ole Mark.

01:11:35I'm going to stick with that.

01:11:36You try Ole Mark here.

01:11:38You try it.

01:11:39You roll with it.

01:11:42And if it doesn't, you know, because again,

01:11:44and I hate contextualizing decisions like this,

01:11:48because it's never a good way to do it.

01:11:50But if you're talking about like second guessing,

01:11:52they did the tandem all year, right?

01:11:55If this doesn't work, if Ole Mark comes into game four

01:11:57and gets shelled and looks bad, at least they tried it, right?

01:12:01Because the last two games,

01:12:03they haven't even done enough to get Swayman to win.

01:12:06He's made big saves.

01:12:07He's made huge saves.

01:12:08There was that turnover that Rodriguez came in on and snipe one,

01:12:11but Swayman made the stop.

01:12:13Like, but I think this is where you go with Ole Mark.

01:12:15You try it.

01:12:16And after, you know,

01:12:18the fact that Pasternak fighting didn't get this team riled up to me

01:12:22thinks like nothing can get this team like, you know,

01:12:25like light a true fire.

01:12:26Like I don't think Ole Mark coming in is going to completely change

01:12:29the way they're playing.

01:12:30I think the big thing is stylistically, you know, strategically.

01:12:34But to me, you go with Ole Mark in game four.

01:12:37I think it's time.

01:12:38I was coming into this thinking Swayman,

01:12:40but then the more you were talking about it

01:12:42and the more I was thinking like, oh,

01:12:43I did just say after game three or going into game three,

01:12:48if you, if Swayman isn't amazing and he was good tonight,

01:12:53like Swayman made some huge stops,

01:12:55but I think you do go back to Ole Mark.

01:12:58I do.

01:13:00Thank you.

01:13:01I, and this is not a playoff Swayman.

01:13:04This has been, and I think Diego Bass and Jack O'Connor comment,

01:13:10commenters on here could probably tell you I'm a Jeremy Swayman fan.

01:13:15I always thought that he should be the number one guy throughout the

01:13:20regular season as well.

01:13:22Like give him the majority of the stars,

01:13:24like I'm a fan of his game and the confidence that he brings to the rink

01:13:28each day.

01:13:29I just think you need a little boost here and you're not getting,

01:13:35you didn't get the boot, right?

01:13:36Like, just like you said,

01:13:37you didn't get the boost from the Pasternak fight.

01:13:39You're not getting a boost from elite play.

01:13:41Like that idea of not letting Swayman down because he's playing at such an

01:13:45elite level.

01:13:46It hasn't, it hasn't helped.

01:13:51Yeah.

01:13:52So I'm saying, I say, yeah,

01:13:55you either put Lena's old mark in or you suit up Patrick Maroon and put him in

01:14:00net spokesy.

01:14:01Absolutely.

01:14:02That sounds like a great idea.

01:14:04Robert Hewlett asked me what was Swayman's goals above allowed above expected

01:14:08tonight.

01:14:09I actually just went and tried to find it, Robert,

01:14:11and my natural stat trick won't load.

01:14:13So if someone wants to throw that in the chat,

01:14:15it just wouldn't load for me.

01:14:16So I don't know what's the stat that I would look at.

01:14:20I goal saved above expected.

01:14:24I believe my brain's a little fried too.

01:14:26Usually,

01:14:27usually Diego Bass is good for that.

01:14:30What it says expected goals against was two,

01:14:35six, five.

01:14:36I don't know where the stuff that you want to give me.

01:14:39Well, again,

01:14:40how many of those were power play tonight?

01:14:43There were a couple of power play goals.

01:14:44And again,

01:14:46I just go back to like, you know,

01:14:48one of the goals was empty netter.

01:14:49One of them was late.

01:14:50Diego just gave you the number down there.

01:14:54You decipher that for me.

01:14:56Yeah.

01:14:57Swayman minus 1.34 goals saved above average.

01:15:03So,

01:15:04you know,

01:15:05I just think you go back to Hallmark.

01:15:07I do.

01:15:09I do.

01:15:10I think it's time in the series,

01:15:11you know,

01:15:12and I don't,

01:15:13Swayman's been great too.

01:15:17He has,

01:15:18he has,

01:15:19I can't say it enough,

01:15:20but I think this is when you go back to Hallmark,

01:15:21you give it a shot,

01:15:22you give it a try.

01:15:23You switch things up.

01:15:24Yeah.

01:15:25You know,

01:15:26this is when you do it.

01:15:27I think it was four on the part.

01:15:29Was it four on the power play tonight?

01:15:32Well,

01:15:33I,

01:15:34someone wanted,

01:15:35someone said three.

01:15:36I know you had the two on the low rise and you had the Rodriguez one late.

01:15:44And then I guess it was three.

01:15:45Cause then it was one empty netter and.

01:15:48Oh yes.

01:15:49Four.

01:15:50Spokes,

01:15:51he's saying he was 1.2 expected goals against at five on five and he had one

01:15:56goal allowed.

01:15:57So that is better.

01:15:58Like that would be pro Swayman.

01:15:59Okay.

01:16:00But I still,

01:16:01I know other people,

01:16:02there are probably a lot of people that want Swayman.

01:16:04I think you go to Hallmark and gave four,

01:16:06you give it a shot,

01:16:07not saying it's going to be perfect,

01:16:08but you give it a shot.

01:16:10Yeah.

01:16:11People were saying it was four power play goals,

01:16:12which sucks.

01:16:13That's ridiculous.

01:16:14That's good.

01:16:15But,

01:16:16you know,

01:16:17again,

01:16:18a double minor in there.

01:16:19So,

01:16:20I mean,

01:16:21in terms of this series,

01:16:22we'll wrap it up with this.

01:16:23Like I'm not,

01:16:25I don't feel different.

01:16:27Like this is going to be a close series.

01:16:29The last two games have not been close at all.

01:16:31It is still two one,

01:16:33but I,

01:16:34I think the Panthers are the better team.

01:16:36And that's what I think we've seen through three games.

01:16:39Are you in a different spot?

01:16:41Actually,

01:16:42you know what,

01:16:43Carl,

01:16:44real quick,

01:16:45we do have Paul Maurice.

01:16:46I think we have Paul Maurice.

01:16:47Our great producer Emmett is here.

01:16:49I think he has Paul Maurice queued up.

01:16:51So let's,

01:16:52Emmett's there.

01:16:53Let's cut to,

01:16:54let's cut to what Paul Maurice said.

01:16:58When you talk about playing the Bruins,

01:17:00what is it that you're doing now to disrupt their game and be able to play your game that you weren't able to do in the regular season?

01:17:07I think the difference between success and failure is so small that it's almost not measurable.

01:17:19There isn't a piece that I would say clearly we're better at this.

01:17:24All of those games are very,

01:17:26as a matter of fact,

01:17:27the four Bruin games were,

01:17:29I think,

01:17:30our four best games in some ways.

01:17:32And we lost them all,

01:17:33but they came and played playoff hockey.

01:17:35And so did we.

01:17:36In terms of if I'm paying money this year,

01:17:39I would say come to the Bruins when the Bruins and the Panthers play this regular season.

01:17:43So that's heavy and fast and mean and awesome.

01:17:47Right.

01:17:48It's the way the game could be played.

01:17:53But this would probably be,

01:17:57I don't know,

01:17:58we're pretty much closer to our lineup tonight than maybe in any time.

01:18:02But those games,

01:18:05I don't walk off the bench tonight many nights after a loss in a particularly good mood.

01:18:10But I walked off the bench after losing each one of those games going,

01:18:13man,

01:18:14that was a hell of a game.

01:18:15So in the regular season,

01:18:16we were fine.

01:18:17It was very,

01:18:18very tight.

01:18:19You know what it is,

01:18:20Carl?

01:18:21It's because he knew that they were due for four wins this time of year.

01:18:24He knew that the wins were going to come.

01:18:27He always seems like,

01:18:28Paul Maurice seems like a guy with all the answers.

01:18:30He always seems like someone who is astute and smart and a great coach.

01:18:36That's the vibes I get from him.

01:18:38Yeah,

01:18:39no,

01:18:40I think having listened to him for a few times here during the playoffs,

01:18:44and even with that answer itself,

01:18:47right,

01:18:48like he's not going to just answer off the top of his head,

01:18:53right?

01:18:54There's a pause.

01:18:55There's thoughtfulness there.

01:18:57There's an approach.

01:19:00It's been interesting to listen to him.

01:19:03Paul really beat Paul.

01:19:06That's exactly what it's right on.

01:19:09I love that.

01:19:10That's perfect.

01:19:12So to go back to what we were talking about before,

01:19:15before Paul Maurice rudely interrupted us,

01:19:18that was really uncool,

01:19:19Paul.

01:19:20I mean,

01:19:21come on,

01:19:22we're doing a show here.

01:19:23Where do you feel?

01:19:24What do you feel about the series right now?

01:19:25Where are you at?

01:19:27I think I said Panthers and six at the beginning of the series.

01:19:32I think you might.

01:19:33I said Panthers and seven.

01:19:34I think I said Panthers and six.

01:19:36And I still feel that way.

01:19:38I think Boston's good enough to win another game.

01:19:42I just think you look at the trajectory of the series.

01:19:45And after that first game,

01:19:47which I think we both said Boston should and could win or could and

01:19:52should win because of the intensity that they're coming off.

01:19:55Now,

01:19:56just the last two games,

01:19:57Florida is getting closer and closer to,

01:20:00to what their best game looks like.

01:20:02And if they can replicate that,

01:20:04I don't think Boston has an answer for it.

01:20:06That's the thing.

01:20:07If Florida brings it,

01:20:08that's a very hard game.

01:20:10That's a very hard series.

01:20:12To me,

01:20:13the key to game four is they have to come out in those first 10

01:20:16minutes.

01:20:17We said this about before.

01:20:18Game three,

01:20:19but you have to come out in game four and,

01:20:21and set a tone immediately.

01:20:22And you need to make those,

01:20:23those differences that,

01:20:25that,

01:20:26that we talked about,

01:20:27you know,

01:20:28you have to,

01:20:29you have to,

01:20:30by the way,

01:20:31I don't know if people have noticed,

01:20:33you don't hear as much clinging and clanking behind me because they're

01:20:36not changing.

01:20:37They're not changing the,

01:20:38the court,

01:20:39the ice over here.

01:20:40They're not changing the,

01:20:41the court,

01:20:42the ice over here.

01:20:43They're not changing the,

01:20:44the court,

01:20:45the ice over here.

01:20:47The court,

01:20:48the ice over to court because the Celtics are going to Cleveland.

01:20:50So the ice is just there.

01:20:51I should go skate.

01:20:52I think I should get some reps.

01:20:53Is there anyone else in the building?

01:20:55Yeah,

01:20:56there are there.

01:20:57There's other people.

01:20:58Yeah.

01:20:59I'm not like the last one.

01:21:00They're waiting to lock the place up because of me.

01:21:02But yeah.

01:21:05So I don't know.

01:21:06I,

01:21:07so spokesy says,

01:21:08Evan,

01:21:09let's go to the drop and talk strategy and email our thoughts.

01:21:11Yeah.

01:21:12That'd be,

01:21:13that'd be perfect.

01:21:14Maybe I will do that.

01:21:15There's still time tonight.

01:21:16Yeah.

01:21:17I mean,

01:21:18again,

01:21:19I,

01:21:20I,

01:21:21I think we're at the point now with this series where,

01:21:22you know,

01:21:23the pandas,

01:21:24the better team,

01:21:25but I think there,

01:21:26the Bruins are good enough to make adjustments.

01:21:28I think they will make adjustments.

01:21:29I still think this series is going to be close.

01:21:31I think the Bruins have at least one more win in them.

01:21:34Maybe two,

01:21:35maybe three,

01:21:36who knows?

01:21:37But yeah,

01:21:38I think we've covered everything.

01:21:40Is there anything we haven't touched that you have a burning thought on?

01:21:44Yeah.

01:21:45Your power play stinks.

01:21:49I forgot about that.

01:21:50We forgot to address that.

01:21:51We were talking so much about the offense,

01:21:53but yeah,

01:21:54the only department they had was the end.

01:21:55Your power play is not good enough.

01:21:58You have looked at and you watch how difficult it is to kill against

01:22:03Florida's because there's consistent puck movement.

01:22:07There's movement of bodies.

01:22:09And I think I've said this,

01:22:11you're stationary and you're reliant on David Pasternak to get his shot off.

01:22:16And they're,

01:22:17they take that away because there's no one else and you don't make it.

01:22:21You don't make it hard.

01:22:23And it's been easy to kill.

01:22:27And I do.

01:22:30Whiskey roads.

01:22:31I am gas tonight.

01:22:32The fact that you put in an hour 20 is,

01:22:36is so admirable.

01:22:39And I can't tell you how much we appreciate it.

01:22:41It's just such a gutsy performance.

01:22:45We talked about remembering the shift.

01:22:47We'll remember this shift from you.

01:22:49I want to find the Darren Helm shifts.

01:22:53It's Darren Helm,

01:22:54Detroit,

01:22:55I think Chicago,

01:22:56it's a penalty kill at the end of like killing a penalty by himself down in

01:23:01the corner.

01:23:02He takes it across the goal mouth and almost scores.

01:23:06That's.

01:23:07And then there's one shift.

01:23:08And I think in the Santa cup,

01:23:09Brooks,

01:23:10Orbeck has maybe eight hits.

01:23:12It's great.

01:23:13That I remember those.

01:23:15This isn't a specific person,

01:23:17but do you remember the end of game four Bruins penguins in 2013?

01:23:23When the penguins were in the last minute pressed for the entire shift and

01:23:29they actually Malkin almost scored,

01:23:32but Chara like dove to block a shot and then put his arm back.

01:23:37You can go look it up and got the shot with his arm and kept it out.

01:23:42And the Bruins ended up sweeping that series because of that,

01:23:45that shift.

01:23:46So that's a very underrated one.

01:23:48It wasn't like a singular person,

01:23:49but like that,

01:23:50if you want to like your heart rate to spike,

01:23:52watch that one minute.

01:23:53But yeah,

01:23:54Orbeck Helm,

01:23:55Greg Campbell.

01:23:56So lots,

01:23:58lots of shifts that,

01:24:00that were great.

01:24:01By the way,

01:24:02I'm brewer.

01:24:03Thank you for the donation and low ride punishment.

01:24:05Yeah.

01:24:06I thought Laura was great tonight too.

01:24:07I thought Laura was great.

01:24:08And I,

01:24:09you know,

01:24:10again,

01:24:11he's,

01:24:12he's proven himself,

01:24:13which is great.

01:24:14Well,

01:24:15anyways,

01:24:16Carl,

01:24:17I'm going to let you get to sleep.

01:24:18Cause I'll be seeing you in person tomorrow.

01:24:19We'll be at the mass hockey festival.

01:24:20So that'll be fun.

01:24:21We won't do a live show from there,

01:24:22but we can,

01:24:23we can chat,

01:24:24which would be good.

01:24:25We should.

01:24:26Yeah.

01:24:27We can.

01:24:28Oh,

01:24:29we should.

01:24:30We should.

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