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00:00And I know goalies take a little while to adjust to new settings, new defensive structures.
00:04I get that.
00:05But I would think you'd want to go somewhere where you're going to, you know, be behind
00:08a contending team, hopefully have a good season and then sign up your, you know, your last
00:14long-term deal next offseason.
00:16I think the Bruins have to somehow can, you know, convey that to Lena Solmark.
00:19Well, I think, I think functionally too, you just can't pay them as now, right?
00:25Swim is going to get somewhere, seven and a half to eight and a half.
00:29Yeah, I would.
00:30That's, that's the exact number I would say, seven and a half to eight and a half.
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00:57I'm Evan Baranofsky and I am joined by Carl Corazzini.
01:01Welcome back, Carl.
01:02That's so nice.
01:03It's so nice to be back with you, Evan.
01:05I have missed you since the Bruins run in the playoff ended with the Florida Panthers,
01:10but I, and I have not heard the CLNS code in a while.
01:16So good to hear it.
01:18Music to your ears, music to your ears.
01:19If you had told me back in April, Hey, on June 12th, you and Carl are going to be doing
01:23a tape, a, you know, a taping or a recording, I'd be like, Oh, Bruce went on an unprecedented
01:29run to the Stanley cup final.
01:31Not quite, not quite how it worked out.
01:33We, but I was at least happy.
01:34We got two rounds this year for us to do the postgame shows.
01:38Yeah.
01:39Two rounds.
01:40And I think when you really take a look back at it, I think performed admirably and yeah.
01:47Would you have liked them to have beaten the Panthers?
01:49But I think as the Panthers have shown through this run, they, they're the best team and
01:55it's going to be, it's going to be hard for Edmond to come back down to all where Florida
01:59is just playing at such a high level with their systems and with their compete as well.
02:08Florida is a fascinating case study, by the way, and just how that team is built, how
02:12they acquired those guys.
02:14Paul Maurice is fast.
02:15I mean, I know all Bruins fans hate the Panthers and like they're an unlikable team.
02:19If you're not a Panther fan, I get that.
02:21But I just think in terms of if you're another team looking to model your team around one
02:26Panthers have an interesting roster.
02:28I mean, you look, you think back to that year, I think it was 21, 22 when they won the president's
02:34trophy and they lost, I think in the first round of Tampa, remember that Andrew Brunette
02:38is the interim head coach.
02:40They let him go, even though he'd led them to a president's trophy.
02:44And then you had that Huberto Weger for Kachuk trade.
02:48I remember at the time being like, Oh, Panthers got screwed on that trade.
02:51I mean, Oh my God, the flames, what a win for the flames.
02:55And you look now and it's like, you know, the Panthers made bold moves and I think,
03:00you know, we'll get into off season moves today.
03:03And I know that that Huberto like Kachuk trade was kind of a perfect storm because Kachuk
03:07wanted out of Calgary and really was only going to go to St. Louis or Florida.
03:12And then, you know, Huberto had a year left on his deal.
03:15So it was a tradable car.
03:16It wasn't like Huberto was locked up for eight years or anything like that.
03:21But I don't know.
03:22I think there's something there where it's like, you know, if you need to, they needed
03:26to shake things up and no one thought they needed to shake things up.
03:28Really.
03:29I think only they did.
03:30And it paid off.
03:31Cause I mean, they look like they're going to cruise to the, to the final or to winning
03:35the final.
03:36Yeah.
03:37I mean, I think why, and I'm right, that's going to be hard to say this.
03:41I think you look back at that trade at the time and I remember thinking, Oh, your, your
03:45DNA just changed a little bit and, and from the, and it's hard to find someone like Matthew
03:53Kachuk, someone that can put up a hundred points, but that plays a 200 foot game that
03:58plays physical, not afraid to mix it up.
04:02So when you have that buy-in from your top guy, probably the way Paul Maurice wants to
04:08play, everyone's got to follow.
04:10And then you have good shock.
04:12You have Bennett.
04:14That's a difficult matchup for any team like to, to consistently have to play against them.
04:19Shift after shift people that can put up 60 to a hundred points.
04:25That's really hard to do.
04:26And they're just from the goal out from the goal out there, the best team this year in
04:32the playoffs.
04:33Oh yeah.
04:34Yeah.
04:35And they've hit that point.
04:36Like, you know, again, we're recording this June 12th.
04:39So I think this is going to come out next week.
04:42Cause I'm on vacation next week, you know, going to prerecord this.
04:47But I, you know, I just, I don't know how Edmonton gets back in it.
04:52You know, I like, they've just been outmatched.
04:55I know the first game they outshot Florida and all that stuff, but you're right.
04:58I mean the way Florida plays and like you, so you got to face the Bennett line with Kachuk,
05:03which is just, you know, going to punch you in the face, hit you, which people are complaining
05:07about a lot on Twitter.
05:08And I get that.
05:09Like I am surprised the NHL is kind of just letting stuff go.
05:12Um, who was it?
05:14Was it Bennett?
05:15Someone choked out like Evan Bouchard in game two or choked out an oiler.
05:19I saw it on Twitter.
05:20Um, and you know, the NHL just lets it go.
05:24But like, you know, then I see like dry sidle hit Barkoff up high and it's like, well, it's
05:29about time a team responds to Florida like that.
05:32It's about time you go back at them and you try to injure them.
05:36As Marcian said it, uh, it break, uh, you know, during the playoffs, like the, you're
05:41trying to hurt each other, like, but no one wants to say it.
05:45And so like last year, the, the golden Knights broke Matthew Kachuk sternum.
05:49Remember that?
05:50So like, you know, again, I, I'm surprised, you know, it's taken this long for a team
05:55to try to take out a top guy on the Panthers.
05:58Yeah.
05:59But that's not good.
06:00That's not going to be the way for Edmond to get back into the series, right?
06:03No, no, no, it's not you.
06:05They're not built that way for Edmonton.
06:09They're going to have to win the matchups at home.
06:11They're going to have to get on the power play and they're going to have to be successful.
06:14So that's unfortunately for them, that's the stuff that they're going to have to walk away
06:16from those after the whistle scrums or anything like that.
06:20Like they live on their power plays elite.
06:23That is what they do best in the league.
06:27And they've got to find a way to get, get on the power play for sure.
06:31And their penalty kill as of late had really like heading into this series.
06:35I mean, what did they kill 25 of 26?
06:38Like they've been, they've been doing a good job on the special teams and I like, how do
06:44they find a way to get back out there on the power ruins legend Bruins legend, Mark Stewart,
06:49by the way, runs that PK.
06:50So I saw it the other day.
06:52It took me a while until they mentioned it.
06:55It took me a while to figure out who that was, but with that, that is a large beard.
07:00Oh my God.
07:01I know.
07:02I will say having played against him even just a little bit in the American, he was
07:10such a good, solid defender and scary to play against.
07:14Like he didn't fight all that much, but you knew by the, by his physical contact with
07:19you in the corner that he was just a strong man and you did not want to kind of mess with
07:26him.
07:27So he, he carved out a nice career from being a, you know, a solid defender that, that killed
07:31penalties and obviously has done a great job with Edmonton's PK at this point.
07:36I think he was traded by the Bruins during that 2011 cup year.
07:40I think he was traded to Atlanta for Peverly if memory serves.
07:44I don't know.
07:45I hope, I hope, I hope he's still got a ring.
07:47Like I, you know, like I don't, I don't know how that works.
07:49I forget how that works, but so this off season for the Bruins, that's what, that's what we're
07:55here for.
07:56That's what people are interested in.
07:58What are your first impressions when you look at kind of the whole board?
08:02Yeah.
08:03When I, so two things will, will stand out.
08:08Number one is you need a number one center and I think we had talked about it during
08:14the playoffs.
08:15I like what the, like Patriot comes back in the lineup.
08:19He probably slots in at number three, right?
08:24So essentially what you're trying to do, and I'm sorry for Pew, I'm looking at a lineup
08:30that I have constructed next to me.
08:32That's totally fine.
08:34That's totally fine.
08:36I don't mind the players that you have left as of right now, you've got 10 forwards left
08:43that can potentially play, but if you look at it with Patriot coming back, if you go
08:47Frederick and Geeky is your third line.
08:49I don't mind that.
08:51And then you go beat your, beat your Brazil and Lauco is your fourth line.
08:54I don't mind that either.
08:56The idea that you have Coyle and Zaka as your one and two centers is probably not the way
09:02that you would like to see things play out.
09:05They, they are very good slotted in at second and third line, and that's why I'm saying
09:09I like your players.
09:11I like the players that you have.
09:12You have a team that's capable of certainly making it to the playoffs and winning a round.
09:19Now if you can make them your second line left wing and your second line center or something
09:24to that nature, then I think you've, you've got a really good team.
09:28So I think the number one thing is you need a number one center.
09:31And now my next thing would be, can you name Florida's backup goalie?
09:38I think it's Stolarz, isn't it?
09:40Stolarz?
09:41Maybe.
09:42Right.
09:43It took a second.
09:44It took a second.
09:45I think you need to open up some cap space.
09:47I think you need to trade all mark and then you would then pick up, then you would pick
09:56up a capable veteran backup that can give you the 25 ish games like I don't think they
10:04might be forced to play bussy next year cause he has to go through waivers, go to Providence.
10:08I'm fine with that too, but I agree with you.
10:10So either way, whether you pick up a veteran or you go with bussy, that's, that's fine.
10:15But I think those are the two things that stand out cause you're going to have to figure
10:18out getting a number one center.
10:21I don't know that all mark and a trade gets you that I'm, you know, I don't know what
10:25a trade scenario for him would look like.
10:28And then the third thing is on defense, you're in pretty good shape.
10:32McAvoy, Lowry, Carlo Lindholm, Peake, Watherspoon, if you can upgrade Watherspoon on that third
10:39pair, so a lefty defenseman and Watherspoon comes in for injuries and like, that's a,
10:46that's a good D pair.
10:47Like you've got good players, number one, number one center.
10:54And then you're probably going to need a Tyler Toffoli type, and I don't mean to throw names
10:58right now, but you're going to need a top six guy that can play up and down your lineup,
11:03whether that's first or third line.
11:04And you tried to do that last year with Van Riemsdyk, like that type of player that can
11:09give you, give you some offense, but play in multiple situations.
11:13So I think that's, that was a lot.
11:16You asked me just for a couple of things that stand out, but I just gave you a lot, Evan,
11:22sorry.
11:23No, I, that's what the people want.
11:24That's what people need.
11:27I agree with you on all of that.
11:29The only thing I don't disagree with, but I, the only thing I would add is if they have
11:35some money left over, I wouldn't hate them going out and getting a veteran left shot
11:40defenseman.
11:41Uh, I'm not saying a Brady Shea, I'm not saying like someone who's going to cost you over
11:454 million, but like a Brendan Dillon, a veteran left shot guy who can play, who could potentially
11:53play with McAvoy on the first pair or down on the third pair with, with Andrew peak.
11:57Cause then I, I just think McAvoy needs a consistent partner.
12:01Like I, you know, and I think Grizzic was that for a while, Grizzic had a tough year
12:04this past year.
12:05Grizzic's gone by the way.
12:07Um, so again, like I think if you can do that and then, you know, flow rise starts to seize
12:14on the third pair and works his way up and plays great, then awesome.
12:18Dylan can move back to the third pair and he got low Ryan McAvoy and, and you're set.
12:22Um, that's the only thing I would add.
12:24The one C is the biggest thing you need a number one center.
12:28And I see a lot of this on Twitter.
12:29I've seen some other people mention, you know, uh, the one C's out there on the free
12:34agent market.
12:35The only real one is Elias Lindholm and that's even a little bit debatable.
12:39Um, you know, he's 30 a down year this past year, you know, is he a true number one center?
12:45I, you know, I don't, is he a franchise like Sydney Crosby type number one center?
12:50No, not at all, but he's an upgrade and he, and you need that now.
12:54And he's real, unless you pull some sort of trade, whether that's Lena Solmark for a number
13:00one center or someone else we're not thinking of, cause I don't know how many trade ships
13:04you have.
13:06I don't, I think that's probably your best bet is that that's probably the market that
13:12you're in.
13:13Right?
13:14So essentially what you're looking at right now is a legitimate number two center that
13:17has to play number one.
13:19That's an upgrade.
13:20That's an upgrade over Charlie coil.
13:22Like I think Charlie coil slot slotted in it at number two.
13:27That is at, put you in a position to compete.
13:31If he's your number three, like he was in 22, 23, then you're a, you're a Stanley cup
13:37contender.
13:38So it's trying to find a way to get, essentially you're looking to replace Bergeron and Creechie
13:45like the minutes, the points that they gave up or that they left that void.
13:51That's what you're trying to kind of make up for it.
13:54And so the market that I think you're in is right, Lindholm, I don't think that all marks
14:00going to get you a, like a franchise number one center.
14:05He's going to get you a draft pick, potentially a first rounder.
14:08And then, you know, if you're a Stanley cup contending team, maybe you get that second
14:14third line center.
14:15I, I don't see him getting you a true number, true number one center.
14:21Did you see in the Ottawa sun?
14:23This was circulating at like a week or two ago.
14:27One of the writers there mentioned that an NHL executive told him cause Ottawa wants
14:31Lena Solmark.
14:32That's like Ottawa has been, I guess, I don't know, Lena Solmark and an executive told him
14:37that a package for all mark from the senators would look like Jacob Chikran, a first round
14:42pick and another high pick.
14:44I was like, Oh, you do that every time.
14:46Are you kidding me?
14:47That's perfect.
14:48I don't know if that's realistic though.
14:50I think that's, that's a high price, but again, you can never underestimate GMS being
14:55desperate when you really need a goalie.
14:58And that's why, like, I look at New Jersey as a team for all mark, like, you know their
15:04GM Tom Fitzgerald came out and said, they're open to trading the number 10 pick and they
15:08need a goalie.
15:09And it's like, there you go.
15:11Like I, if it's number 10 pick for Lena Solmark straight up, I'm cool with that.
15:15What about you?
15:17Yeah, I think you would probably want in that scenario.
15:19So number one, talking about Ottawa, I don't know what his, no, like he has a limited,
15:27no movement clause, right?
15:30I believe so.
15:31Places that he can and can't go to.
15:32I'm going to, is this bad to assume that Ottawa is probably on that list?
15:38It's probably, no, I don't think that's bad.
15:39I think that's probably accurate.
15:40I can't imagine it's on that list or it is.
15:43Yeah.
15:44So, I mean, if you didn't want to go to LA, I'm assuming he's not going to Ottawa.
15:50So you're limited by the places that are not on his list, but that deal you do every day
15:58of the week, right?
15:59Like provided the cap hit works on both ends, right?
16:02I think Chickren makes a little bit more than Solmark does.
16:10If it's straight up for a 10th overall pick, I'm going to have to trust in my scouting
16:17staff that they think that there's a legitimate one, number one center that you can, right?
16:24They obviously not going to slot hit that player in next year, but is that player closer
16:31to the NHL than they are farther away?
16:35If that player is farther away, and so by farther away, I mean three, four years down
16:41the line, then I'm probably looking for some sort of prospect with that number 10 pick.
16:46Number 10 pick is extremely valuable, there's no doubt about that, but in the immediacy
16:50of it all, you can't lose Allmark because what the Bruins did with their tandem this
16:56year is you had an opportunity to win, that those goalies had an opportunity to steal
17:01you games every night.
17:03And I don't know much about Brandon Bussie, but what we do know is he's not at Allmark's
17:07level.
17:08So if that player at number 10, and I know you like some players.
17:13Well, I haven't watched those guys, I texted you a few names.
17:18I mean, that's from that Corey Proneman in the athletic, I don't want to, I wish there
17:22was some New England prospects who were around that aside from Cole Iserman, because I'd
17:27be like, oh, there's a great center, I watched him all winter.
17:29But yeah, I mean, there should be some names around that number 10 pick.
17:33So that number 10 pick, if it's one year, stash him back in junior, let him win a Memorial
17:40Cup or something along those lines, let him play world junior, and then they're ready
17:44to step in and be a second line center.
17:46All right, I'm, I'm okay with that number 10 pick.
17:49If it's going to take some time, which it does with some of some of these young players,
17:54I want I want a decent prospect back to 10 and a prospect and I'm ecstatic.
18:00Yeah, I totally get that.
18:02I also think with 10 though, you do get the cap, you do get the cap space.
18:07So with like Lena, so Mark gone, you get the cash, which you can go spend on a player
18:10or keep for the season to go trade for a player mid season, if you want to do that.
18:15So there's that, by the way, Chikorin makes 4.6.
18:19That's why he's sort of so valuable is that his cap is not big.
18:22Yeah.
18:23And he's, he's got a year, this is the last year of his deal.
18:28There's a lot more to get into with all mark centers, all that stuff, the future of Jake
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20:12Now back to the show.
20:14How weird is it that we don't have like a live chat during I'm disappointed that we
20:20don't have one.
20:21I'd really like some of our I don't want to call them fans.
20:25Some of the commenters from Toronto that were really, uh, they followed us through the second
20:32round and that was really nice.
20:34They did.
20:35I would love to see them.
20:36I don't can't think of the name off the top of my head.
20:37There was one.
20:38It was like first and 10 or it was a football reference.
20:41Yeah, it was.
20:43They were awesome.
20:44And you know what's funny?
20:45Like sometimes I'll go through the YouTube comments on different Bruins beats and podcasts
20:48to people are thinking and on almost all of them, someone's like, where is Carl bring
20:55back Carl?
20:56And I said, you know what?
20:57We should do that.
20:58We should do that.
20:59So we're doing that today.
21:00That's what we're doing.
21:01Awesome.
21:02Um, that's what, that's what people want.
21:03That's what the people want.
21:04Um, the old mark thing is fascinating cause you know, at breakup day he was adamant about
21:12staying.
21:13I can't imagine a world though where his camp is not like, you know, dude, you got a year
21:18left on your deal.
21:20If you're in Boston, you're not going to play as much as Jeremy Swayman.
21:23Um, cause I don't, even though they say they like the tandem, they're going to be paying
21:27Swayman a big chunk of change in soft season.
21:30They cannot have those guys splitting the net evenly.
21:33Um, Swayman's proven he can play multiple games in a row and all that stuff to me.
21:38Like if I'm old mark, I want to go to like a Carolina or a New Jersey or a team that's
21:43a contender where I'm going to be the guy they need a goalie.
21:47I'm wanted.
21:48Um, you know, I think he wants to stay out East, but like even West, like Colorado is
21:52a team LA and you know, like those are spots I think you would want to be.
21:57And I know goalies take a little while to adjust to new settings, new defensive structures.
22:01I get that.
22:02But I would think you'd want to go somewhere where you're going to, you know, be behind
22:06a contending team, hopefully have a good season and then sign up your, you know, your last
22:11longterm deal next off season.
22:13I think the Bruins have to somehow can, you know, convey that to Lena Solmark.
22:17Well, I think, I think functionally too, you just can't pay them as you know, you can't
22:22really swim is going to get somewhere, a seven and a half to eight and a half.
22:26Yeah, I, I would, that's, that's the exact number I would say.
22:29Seven and a half to eight and a half.
22:30So you can't be paying two goalies, 12 and a half, 13 and a half.
22:36I mean, you're now, as of right now you have $10 million in cap space.
22:42Oh yeah.
22:42Like 20, almost 22 million cap space.
22:45You got 22 million in cap space.
22:47That number is obviously going to go, go down with what you have to pay Swainman.
22:52So I just think of the Bruins have got to make a move.
22:57Obviously that's what they're going to try to convey to Olmark.
23:00Hey, we're going to move away from the tandem a little bit, 60, 40, like they've got to
23:05show him that it's in his best interest to leave, right?
23:09Like go win a cup, be the player, exactly what you're talking about and go sign your
23:14last contract.
23:16I, you can't pay Jeremy Swainman seven and a half to eight and a half million dollars
23:20and then ask him to be part of a tandem that just now you can't pay a goalie at an
23:25elite level and then say, all right, Hey, you're not going to fully see the net until
23:32the playoffs come around.
23:33It just doesn't work that way.
23:35And you've never seen, you had never seen another team use a tandem.
23:40Now you've seen right, like Lehner and, and, uh, Flurry, it, it kind of came to fruition
23:48there in Vegas, but they still got rid of him before they won.
23:51Correct?
23:51Yeah.
23:53Um, Hey, the Bruins did it during the playoffs this year.
23:56They did it for two games.
23:58Yeah, I just was legendary.
24:00We'll never forget it.
24:01It's extremely rare for it to work out in large part because some of the best goalies
24:07in the world carry a high cap hit.
24:09And so that second, that second goalie is either a prospect or an older veteran and
24:15the Jonathan quick there in New York.
24:18So I suspect that they're going to come around to the idea of, of going somewhere
24:26else and where that somewhere else is.
24:29I don't know.
24:30Cause you would have thought that LA was a really good situation for him to be in
24:34last year and by all accounts, right?
24:38Like something that he didn't want to do.
24:41Yeah.
24:42I think he's got a, like, I don't see a world in which he's not traded this off
24:48season.
24:49I don't, especially around the draft.
24:50Like I think the teams are, you know, when teams are desperate and they're goalie
24:54away now, I don't know what the rest of the goaltending market is.
24:57I mean, people are mentioning like UC Soros, uh, and other guys like that, you
25:02know, that, you know, what the cost would be to get a guy like him, you know, would
25:06be high, but same with all mark.
25:08Like, so I think there are teams that need goalies and you need offense.
25:13And I think all mark opens that option up, uh, completely.
25:18Um, an interesting thing back to the LA Elias Lindholm stuff.
25:22Um, you know, Lindholm to me is such a good fit for this team.
25:26Cause a it's, you know, he fits kind of their style.
25:30You win draws another team down, shut another team's top line down and he can
25:35score, you know, again, is he going to be like 90 points every year?
25:38No, but 65, 75, you know, maybe 80 points playing with the guy like David
25:43Poshnok, I think that's in the cards.
25:45Um, but there are some who want the Bruins instead, cause they have so much
25:48cap space to say, Hey, you know what?
25:50The Bruins need a high end scorer.
25:54Let's pass on Lindholm and instead go for a guy like Sam Reinhart, who will probably
25:58get around 10 million this off season or Jake Gensel.
26:02Uh, that's to me, that's an either, or I don't think you can, or you cannot
26:06have both, you cannot have Lindholm and Sam Reinhart, um, you've got to just pick
26:11one, um, would you go for that?
26:16Would you go for don't upgrade at center or get a, you know, a Chandler Stevenson
26:21type and then get a Sam Reinhart?
26:25Would you do that?
26:26Tell me, and you know, the answer to this, tell me who Sam Reinhart's center is.
26:32It's Alexander Barkoff.
26:33Oh, okay.
26:36Yes.
26:37So you're talking about one of the best all around players in the national
26:39hockey league just happens to play in the middle for Sam Reinhart.
26:43And I don't think that, and I'm not this, obviously Sam Reinhart is a great player.
26:47He's had a great playoff run.
26:49He was a great player last year.
26:51It's taken him some time to get to this point.
26:54That being said, Alexander Barkoff for the last five years has been one of the
27:00better all around players in the national hockey league.
27:02You've got to upgrade at center to make everyone else around you better.
27:06Now does, does, does Lindholm do that at a high enough level?
27:11I don't know.
27:12Is he an up, is he an upgrade over Coyle in that spot?
27:16Cause I do think you slot him in probably with Zaka and Postrock.
27:20Yes, I would agree.
27:21And that becomes your first line.
27:23Uh, so I don't think, I don't think just getting a winger is good enough for your
27:33team.
27:33I don't think that makes you better because you saw what Zaka and Coyle did during the
27:39playoff run where they went stretches without scoring goals or producing points.
27:45And that again, like that's for Coyle anyways, that's not his, his full game.
27:51That's not the measure of what his game is, but you need someone down the middle
27:57that other teams have to prepare for.
28:00And right.
28:01You, you're not always in control of the points that you can create, but do they
28:05create chances enough every period to be considered a top six center?
28:13Yeah, I, that's the thing.
28:15And I, I don't, you need a center.
28:17You do.
28:18You need to win draws.
28:19You know, you need a guy who can facilitate, um, I know Lindholm's underlying numbers
28:23weren't great last year.
28:24I get that.
28:26I think the other thing with Lindholm is, you know, let's say this offseason, let's
28:29just say hypothetically, they did get Hampus Lindholm at like seven times 7.5 and they
28:35traded Linus Hallmark for the number 10 pick.
28:37Now again, I'm going to make the sound great.
28:38Like, oh my God, Evan, Evan fixed it.
28:40What were you going to say?
28:41Yes.
28:42Hampus Lindholm.
28:43So I think you're talking about, oh, did I say Hampus?
28:46Yeah, they signed Hampus Lindholm to a new contract, seven times 7.5.
28:51Uh, no, Elias Lindholm and they trade Hallmark for the number 10 pick and they
28:54draft, I don't know, let's say a Berkeley Caton or a Caton Lindstrom, uh, a center
28:59at number 10, you know, that, you know, Lindholm is probably going to be your
29:04number one center for the next three years.
29:06Let's just say it was 30.
29:07So it's three years can fit in that role.
29:10Uh, and then you get your hopefully number one center of the future.
29:15Your hope, your franchise guy, you're hoping to be, uh, with that number 10
29:19pick who will be ready in hopefully two to three years, again, that's, that's
29:23saying a lot with the prospect, but you know, you're picking number 10.
29:27That should be in that ballpark.
29:29Um, and so I do wonder like, if that's kind of their route where it's like,
29:33Hey, Lindholm can be the stop gap, but let's go out and draft the next center.
29:38Uh, the next hopeful, hopefully franchise guy.
29:40Cause you also have Matt Potra too, who looks like a really good top six
29:44center, uh, when he hits his stride, the NHL.
29:47And so like, I think, you know, if Lindholm can be the stop gap and you
29:50have the idea that like the, the cap is going up, if Lindholm is making 7.5
29:55now as a number one center, that's very good.
29:58And in a couple of years as a number two center, that looks really good.
30:027.5 is a number two center.
30:03I think that'll probably be the standard for number two centers in three, four,
30:07five years.
30:08So I'm okay with that.
30:10I'm okay with the Lindholm thing.
30:11I know a lot of people aren't.
30:12A lot of people want, they'd rather go out and get the high end talent.
30:16I also wonder like with Reinhardt and I don't know his game well enough to be
30:20like, what's the, you know, I know what the floor is and we know what the ceiling
30:23is.
30:23He scores a ton of goals, but if you did put him with like a coil or a Zaka,
30:28let's just say like, how much is the production going to dip?
30:32You know, is he, you know, is he going to be 30 goals?
30:35Is he going to be 35, 40?
30:38If he's making 10 million a year, you got to be producing big.
30:43If you're making a million less than David Pasternak, like I, that's the one
30:46thing with Reinhardt that I just, I'm not fully sold on.
30:49Yeah.
30:49And then what you got to look at in that scenario is his pretty, you know, his
30:53production is going to dip here in Boston, a, because the power play goes
30:57through posture, not right.
30:59Yeah.
31:00A lot of how he creates on the power play in Florida is in that bumper spot, which
31:05since Berger on left, they never really were able to create in that area for
31:09whatever, for whatever reason, whether it's puck movement, whether it's whoever
31:13is down on that goal line, it's not able to make that pass quick enough, right?
31:17Whether they made the adjustment that like, let's go through Poshmark.
31:20So it doesn't matter.
31:22You immediately coming here next year, his production deaths, because
31:26Poshmark is the centerpiece of the offense.
31:31Yes, that's, that's that.
31:33And then.
31:34Well, he would open up, he'd be in the bumper on the power play.
31:37That would probably would improve with him a hundred percent,
31:40but I get what you're saying.
31:41Yeah.
31:42All right.
31:43So there's that you're not going to separate Zaka and Poshmark.
31:48So then that means that you're going coil Marshawn and Reinhardt.
31:52And here's the thing right now.
31:55This is from my playing experience and the type of player that I was like, I'm
32:00not, I'm not super creative.
32:03I was fast and I could shoot the puck.
32:05The people who don't know Carl played in the NHL.
32:07So this is not just like a, you know, for those who didn't watch the post
32:09game shows and are just seeing Carl for the first time, he played for the
32:12Bruins and the Blackhawks.
32:13So just let's get, let's be honest to the fans too.
32:17Clearly not enough to not be here on a Tuesday at 10 39 AM.
32:23Hey, school just got out.
32:24Okay.
32:25So there you go.
32:27So what I would say is now you slot Reinhardt in with coil and Marshawn.
32:33He's not seeing the puck as much.
32:35He's just not.
32:36And the, and the reason for that is because coil is a right-handed
32:40centerman that just naturally you're going to make passes on your forehand.
32:45So Marshawn is going to see more of the puck than Reinhardt.
32:48And so the production then dips to that level.
32:52So is it worth it going out and getting Reinhardt when you don't
32:55have the number one center?
32:56Like if you had, I don't even know a left-handed center that is, but
33:03you went to the dry sidle.
33:05I'm trying to think when's the last time the Bruins had a good left-handed
33:08centerman, like a top six left-handed centerman Savard Savard is probably
33:13the last one, right?
33:14Perfect.
33:14If you had Mark Savard here, who is an elite passer that in that era was
33:20getting 80 points a year because he's a pass first guy signed me up for
33:24Reinhardt all day, he's going to touch the puck Savard is going to put him
33:28in positions to be successful.
33:30And Reinhardt's going to do what he does well, which is shoot the puck.
33:33He's obviously really smart to find open spaces.
33:36That's why he's in the bumper.
33:39Sign me up.
33:40Savard and Reinhardt for the next six years, but you're given
33:44your current center situation.
33:46I don't think if you're going to get a, you know, another top six left
33:52winger, you're probably trying to go left winger, right winger.
33:55Sorry.
33:56If you're trying to go get one of those guys, you're looking for an
33:58all-around guy that can probably play up and down two, three, right?
34:02Like in the, in the second, third line, you know, a Tyler Toffoli, like
34:07we've talked about and 55 point guy skates well, can play multiple
34:12positions, play on multiple goals.
34:15Yeah.
34:15That's a guy you're probably look, you're, you're trying to get Lynn
34:18home because that's your best bet.
34:20And you're going to go all out on that.
34:21So you're probably going to overspend for them.
34:23And then you're looking at, you know, trying to cash in on, on someone that
34:29can get you 20, 30 goals down the stretch.
34:31And I, do I have the wingers?
34:33I had the wingers up earlier.
34:35So, well, I'll, I'll give you a second.
34:38Cause I want to get into DeBrusque.
34:39I want to get into Jake DeBrusque.
34:41That was a topic you and I talked about at length many times on postgame shows.
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36:34So Jake DeBrusque, Jake DeBrusque the topic, Jake DeBrusque, uh, always
36:39finds his way into the conversation.
36:41Um, free agent, the UFA, uh, and you know, had a little bit of a down year
36:48this past year, great in the playoffs.
36:51I think was, was he tied for their lead?
36:53I think in points by the end, like he was a top producer for them.
36:58Um, you know, in post game comment or post season comments, uh, you know,
37:02that Don Sweeney made, it seems like they're far apart and they've been
37:06kind of far apart all year.
37:08And I said this to you before we started recording, it's mid June.
37:13He's not locked up yet.
37:14July one is when free agency opens typically guys, if you're keeping
37:18them or locked up by now and they're not, and he's not, and I think he's
37:24probably gone, um, now I would, I would have liked to have kept him at the
37:29right price, right at the right price at five and a half, 6 million, maybe 6.25.
37:35You know, you get above 6.5 and I start to wince, but like, yeah, I can't pay that.
37:40I can pay 5.5 million personally.
37:42I can pay 5.5 million, but we get to 6.25.
37:44I can't pay that.
37:46Uh, but I just, what do you think?
37:48I mean, should they do whatever it takes to keep him?
37:51Or do you think, yeah, keep, you know, right.
37:53Well, I would think two things.
37:56Number one, obviously the, and for all the fans that used to watch us, I
38:02got to plug in my computer again.
38:04That's fine, but I'm in the same seat.
38:07I'm prepared this time.
38:08I know.
38:08I love this seat.
38:09It's a perfect angle.
38:10It's great.
38:11Uh, I would say number one, I think the agent's obviously telling Jake to
38:16Bross, let's wait, let it, let, let's let it at least get as close to July
38:21one as we possibly can, and that's for a couple of reasons, like obviously
38:24he had down year, but that's what he is.
38:28He's shown that he's a 40 board of 50 point guy, right?
38:32Like top, he's going to be a 60 point guy.
38:36He had a good playoff run.
38:37Let's wait and see if, if the Bruins up their offer, which the Bruins could do.
38:44And then if they don't, then we're on the open market and you're
38:46probably going to get from.
38:50You're probably to get from a team.
38:52That's looking to be a playoff team and all a Columbus, something along those
38:58lines that may be interesting.
39:00One, I took, I liked that one.
39:01That's a good one.
39:02That may overpay for him.
39:05And by overpay, I think you're in that six and a half range.
39:08Do I think he's going to get seven?
39:09No.
39:10Do I think he might get six years?
39:12Possibly.
39:13I would think it's probably five and somewhere between six, six and a half.
39:17I think, I think at 40, 50, 60 points, that's probably an appropriate level.
39:23I would like them back personally, because I know what I'm getting.
39:26Like, I always say that his consistency is that he's inconsistent, but he's
39:30shown you that he's going to give you that 45 to 60 range, 60 at tops.
39:36And I'm happy with that because he does multiple things.
39:39And at the end of the day, he plays left wing.
39:41He plays right wing.
39:42He's, he has played center.
39:44He kills penalties.
39:46He plays on that power play, whether that's first or second.
39:48And that's valuable to have someone that can do that amount of things for you.
39:56Those types of players don't, don't come around.
39:57No, you want him to be the guy that is consistently using his speed to
40:02attack the net and create chances.
40:04He's not going to be that during the regular season.
40:07He's just, he's not going to do it.
40:09And if you can, if you can live with that, I think he's a very valuable
40:14player that I would rather have.
40:16And this is why I would, and I don't know where they're at.
40:19Like if they're far apart, if the Bruins are at five and he's at six
40:22and a half, then it's, there's no point, right?
40:24Yeah.
40:25He's not, he's gone then.
40:26Yeah.
40:26But if we're, if you're talking about six and six and a half, I'm probably
40:30going to pay that, that 500 extra 500 grand, because I know what to expect
40:35from him at this point in my, in his career, as opposed to go out and get.
40:40Let's use a name.
40:41And I'm just looking at the left wings and Anthony Duclair, whose cap hit this
40:48year was three, puts up 42 points, plays a similar style, right?
40:52Like plays heavy at times, inconsistent, fast.
40:55That's someone that you would potentially bring in as a replacement
40:58for Jake Dabrowski, probably on the cheaper side, but do you, but
41:03do you get the same value?
41:04Do does Anthony Duclair do all the things that Jake Dabrowski is
41:08capable of, of doing, and you're just going to make the determination
41:12is, is going a little bit over for Jake Dabrowski.
41:16Is that, is that too rich for the Bruins for lack of a better term?
41:21I also think like signing free agent wingers can be dangerous and bringing
41:25in new wingers in general can be dangerous because you're putting them
41:28with new centers and you look at the Bruins history, I know it's been a
41:32bunch of years, but you look at, you know Matt Bolesky, David Backus, you
41:39know, Andre Kosha, Nick Ritchie, like they bring these guys in who were in
41:43previous roles and it's, it can be hard to adjust.
41:46And, you know, you look at like Bolesky was a big signing.
41:49Backus was a big signing and Backus was, you know, older and a little bit
41:52slower, but, you know, you bring some of these guys in and again, like to
41:59replace Dabrowski, it's not a Reinhardt or a Gensel, obviously, but like, is
42:02it an Anthony Manta?
42:04Is it a Tyler Bertuzzi?
42:05Is it a, you know, Tara Vinen?
42:07Is it a, you know, a Marsha So?
42:10Like all those guys have flaws.
42:12Marsha So would be a great fit, but he's almost 34.
42:15Um, you know, Tyler Bertuzzi, that was a great fit when he was here, but
42:19defensively, he is nowhere near Jake DeBrusque.
42:21You probably will get like, I don't know, maybe five to 10 more points during
42:24the regular season than DeBrusque would on average, and maybe you take that.
42:29But still like has holes.
42:31Anthony Manta has holes like Tara Vinen, like all these guys do.
42:35So I, in the like DeBrusque thing, no, what he's going to give you, you know,
42:41what the floor is, the floor is fairly high.
42:44Um, but in terms of other names and one name I didn't mention was Tyler Toffoli,
42:49who I also like 30 goals, 50, 60 points.
42:53He, to me, seems like the obvious one.
42:55Cause you need guys who can put the puck in the back of the net.
42:57He can.
42:58Um, who are you looking at?
43:01Is it Tyler Bertuzzi?
43:02Like, are they bringing him back?
43:04What do you, what do you, what do you want to have happen?
43:07Right.
43:07And so I, I, I think really you've, you've got to go all in on Linholm.
43:14And then you've got to figure out, you've got to kind of figure
43:17out the winger situation later.
43:19I think having that number one center will then dictate who you go out and look at.
43:28And I, and I brought up Duclair's name for a reason.
43:31I think you look at his cap hit.
43:33I think you look at the pace that he plays with, I think you look at his
43:37physicality, but then more importantly, and you know, the Bruins, I think you
43:40look at the cap hit what he was at last year, which was right around that, that
43:463 million, it was 3 million.
43:48Exactly.
43:49Yeah.
43:50Right.
43:50Like I, I, and so why I bring him up to is, so you get Linholm, you know that
43:55he's, so you would probably put him with Zaka and, and I would say, yeah.
44:05And then I guess, so, so one would be Duclair.
44:08He's a left winger.
44:10Um, if I'm looking on the right side, I'm looking at, I'm looking at it to Foley,
44:18right?
44:18Like cat pit was four to five last year.
44:21That's something probably the Bruins could do.
44:24He's 32.
44:26He probably got two, three years left there.
44:30Um, I don't know that I want to go.
44:34I don't know that I want to go Marsh.
44:36So I think that that's going to be too rich at the age of 33.
44:39I know for the Bruins to kind of, I think he's probably going to, right.
44:44Like if we're talking about the brass potentially going to get six and a half
44:48Marshall was probably looking at that.
44:51He's probably going to want seven, seven and a half for three.
44:55Right.
44:56Like I don't think I would think, I mean, he's done enough, like he's done
44:59enough to, to warrant that for sure.
45:00Yeah.
45:01I don't think he's going to get the term that the breast gets, but he'll
45:04certainly get, he'll certainly get the number.
45:07So I think you're looking for me.
45:10I think you're looking to Foley.
45:12I think you're looking do Claire.
45:14Um, that's probably where I'm, where I'm at right now.
45:20Cause you're looking at someone and, and what the Bruins have done, they're
45:23not too dissimilar to the Patriots in the sense that does this player that
45:28we're going to bring in does, do they do, can they do and play in multiple roles?
45:32And maybe that's my bias.
45:35Maybe that's me thinking, doing the Patriots.
45:37If I'm going to sign someone, they got to do a little bit of everything.
45:40And those are the two players that probably stick out to me most that
45:46they can, they can do a little bit.
45:50Yeah.
45:51Now here's another alternative, right?
45:53And Connor Ryan has mentioned this to me a bunch at when you're really good.
45:58Charlie Coyle would be like your number three center voice
46:01matchups, all that stuff.
46:03Is there a world in which you do Lindholm, Zaka, Coyle down the middle
46:07Marshan and Pasternak on Lindholm's left and right.
46:09So you have sort of like a super line, like Marsha and Bergeron
46:12Pasternak back in the day.
46:14And then for Zaka's wings, you get those guys in free agency, you know,
46:20whether it's a Bertuzzi and a do Claire or a Bertuzzi and a Toffoli
46:24or a Toffoli and a do Claire.
46:26Um, you could go that route too.
46:28And then suddenly your third line is Frederick Coyle geeky.
46:31And suddenly your third line's huge and dominant.
46:35And that second line is offensive.
46:38Yes.
46:39Where does Matt Potter go then?
46:42Well, that's an interesting point.
46:44You could put Potter on the wing.
46:45You could put Potter down the middle and move Zaka to the left.
46:48If Patra is advanced enough or.
46:51Potter starts the year in Providence, which is a popular thing
46:55that people are talking about.
46:56Now, I, again, I don't know where he's at.
46:58No one's seen him play in forever.
47:00We'll see what he's like in training camp, but I think
47:03Providence is also an option.
47:05So like, that's the thing.
47:06Whereas, you know, if he kicks ass though, in training camp, and he's
47:08great in the preseason again, and it's like, all right, this guy's got to be
47:11here, then maybe he does fit on the right wing in that case, or you could try him
47:16down the middle with Zaka on the wing.
47:18So there's that too, but because I think Marsha and Lindholm because Marsha and
47:25playing with Lindholm would unlock his offense.
47:27Would unlock Marsha and his offense more than playing with coil.
47:29So I think you also have to consider that with the lines.
47:33And what was the super line?
47:33It was Lindholm Marshawn.
47:37Poster knock wash knock.
47:39And then you went coil.
47:43Well, I went Zaka with, as the two center, and then you'd put, you'd have to get,
47:46you'd have to get guys declare into Foley.
47:49Let's just say, and then on the third line, yeah.
47:54And suddenly you're much deeper team.
47:57Yeah.
47:57I don't, I don't, I don't mind that.
48:01I don't, I think that coil is a better number two center than Zaka is.
48:07That's fair.
48:09And now whatever you could go, maybe you could go coil do clear into Foley.
48:17I just, I guess one question I have too, and this is a Mark Diver question
48:22is what's Fabian Liesel.
48:24Is he just out?
48:26Do you give him a chance here at some point?
48:29Or is he not the prospect that, that, that you thought, or they're just too
48:36many holes to his game where you're saying, cause at some point you look
48:39at the successful teams, right?
48:41Like they've got a system, like a farm system that has been able
48:45to supplement the lineup.
48:49And outside of you got low Ryan Beecher, right?
48:54Like that have come in and kind of made an impact in Patra swam in.
48:58So, I mean, you've done a nice job, but who's that next guy that is a
49:02potential to push for a roster spot?
49:05And if not him, what are you doing with him in year three?
49:10It's valid.
49:10I think this is the year Lysol has got to come up and they've got
49:13to see what they've got out of him.
49:14He's got to have a good training camp a, and he's got to, you know, do
49:17you necessarily like carve out a lineup spot just for him?
49:22I guess if he earns it.
49:23Yeah.
49:24Like that's the thing.
49:24Like if, if, if he comes, if he has an amazing training camp, it's like,
49:28all right, maybe we put them on the right side of the third line, or maybe
49:31we slot slot him in on the second line.
49:34Diver.
49:34I had him on recently was not high on Lysol being able to do that.
49:38Um, so that's, that's the one thing with, with Diver and I trust him on that.
49:42Um, I was kind of doing the math.
49:44Like, let's say you gave, let's just say in my situation where you want
49:47Lindholm, Zaka coil down the middle.
49:49If you gave Lindholm 7.5, you gave Bertuzzi six and you gave Anthony
49:54Duclair four, that comes to, I think 17 and a half, and then you add 7.5
50:01for Swayman, let's just say Swayman 7.5 and it gets to 25 million.
50:04Now that's over what they have in cap space now, but if they trade
50:09Allmark that's under, cause you get to around like 27 and a half or 27 million.
50:15So you'd still have like 2 million in cap space.
50:17With that, which is a good wiggle room to go into the season with.
50:20I'm okay with that.
50:21Like you sacrifice getting a left shot defenseman.
50:24Um, but I'm okay with that.
50:25Cause you just bolstered your offense.
50:27You added Lindholm, you added Bertuzzi.
50:29You added Duclair.
50:31Um, you became deeper.
50:33I'm okay with that.
50:34Um, you're, you know, four, you're deeper at Fort.
50:39So you just added three players to a 10 man group.
50:44So you got 13.
50:45You only have six defensemen then, which leaves you with who's,
50:50who's coming up from Providence.
50:52Or what D yeah.
50:54Who's going to be that seventh guy that plays like is up all year with Boston
51:00plays in every whatever fourth game, fifth game, or when there's an injury,
51:05like who's that player, right?
51:07Like as you saw last year and I was panicked, right?
51:10This is admittedly as a Boston Bruins fan, what the heck are you going to do?
51:14You just lost two great players and you essentially went out to,
51:19and no one's going to know this reference.
51:21You went to, maybe they will, if you're in Boston filing's basement.
51:27I get that reference.
51:28And you started picking around for the, in the bins for, you know,
51:34stuff like that.
51:35That's there used to be a filing's basement in Framingham, right?
51:38Yeah.
51:38Right near Papa Gino's right next to Papa Gino's.
51:41I remember that.
51:41Yes.
51:42Across the post office.
51:43Those are the days those were the days.
51:45And that weird Burger King up on like a hill that you can't get to.
51:49That's where I lost my first tooth.
51:52Oh, really?
51:53Yeah.
51:53Burger King.
51:54There you go.
51:55That very well.
51:57Nope.
51:58Well, so I just think the Bruins have have shown you that they're going to try to get
52:04and Don Sweeney's done a nice job, but he always has.
52:07And I think that's probably what's frustrating with with the Jake
52:10DeBrust situation for him is that they've done a great job in large part, getting
52:17players to take discounts to stay in Boston.
52:20And you're probably not getting this out of DeBrust rather because he took that what
52:23two and eight million dollar deal.
52:27Yeah, he can't get him to take another discount.
52:29And now you've got to figure out a way to replace him.
52:32And then a center.
52:33I don't I don't foresee them going three players and free agency.
52:38What I see them doing would be that center and then one other one other player, one
52:46other winger and so that they can so that they can get a depth defenseman and a
52:51potentially a depth goaltender if Bussey's not what they think is.
52:56I agree with you.
52:57I think that's what they do.
52:58I don't think they do what I like.
52:59What I just said about like Lindholm Bertuzzi declare or Lindholm to fully declare
53:04like that's I think that's an awesome way to bolster your offense, which is what they
53:09need. I don't think they do that.
53:11They're not. I don't think they're programmed to do that.
53:12I think they're more programmed to go out, get a Lindholm, get one winger and then get
53:19some depth guys or Sweeney's done this in the past, make a trade we don't see coming,
53:24you know, find a way like find a way to get a guy with a high ceiling who hasn't really
53:28hit it yet. So again, I don't know.
53:31And maybe you use all mark to do that.
53:33Maybe you don't get back in the draft, but I think you do need to because you just
53:37mentioned it with Providence, right?
53:38Like low rise up, Patra's up, Swayman's up, Beecher's up, Lauco's up.
53:43Like who's the next guy after Lysell?
53:48There's not a heck of a lot of guys down.
53:51I mean, you know, could a Riley Duran or a Mark McLaughlin or Trevor Kuntar, you know,
53:55crack a fourth line spot down the road?
53:56Yeah, for sure.
53:58But full time NHLers who are going to make an impact every night, I don't know if they
54:04have that down there.
54:05And that's where like, you know, you like it would help to get a nice infusion of a
54:13high end prospect into that system.
54:15And you'd get that in the first round.
54:17Like I was just looking at the athletics.
54:19They did like a staff.
54:22Picks for for the first round, and they have that Caden Lindstrom, the center, they have
54:29him going fourth overall, that's the center, and I think I saw Pranman compare him to
54:36what's his name?
54:38Chris Kreider.
54:39They have T.J.
54:39Ginla going ninth to Calgary, and then they have Berkley Caden, who Pranman compared to
54:44Logan Cooley going 12th.
54:46So like you're I think at that spot at 10, you're getting a good center.
54:51You're getting a really good center.
54:53They have Eisenman going 13th to Minnesota.
54:55What a shame we never got to see Cole Eisenman play prep hockey would have been cool to see
54:59Cole Eisenman play around here for like a year or two.
55:01But alas.
55:03Yeah, I mean, I think you have that speed, that shot.
55:06And it would have been he would have.
55:09He would have done really well, I'm sure, like he's done everywhere else in his career.
55:13I wonder like I it's funny.
55:15I might I might see him at an event later this week, and I want to ask him, like, did
55:21you like were there any prep schools you considered?
55:23Because it is fun to think of, like, would he have put up like 40 goals in a, you know,
55:28but again, he would have been young.
55:29He would have been like a freshman or a sophomore.
55:31So like is a freshman putting up thirty five, forty goals in prep?
55:36Probably not, but.
55:38He probably probably has it as a sophomore, right?
55:42Probably.
55:43He probably goes to sophomore, I think you right away, you are highlighting him on a
55:48power play.
55:51Someone like him is going to a school that has got established talent in and around him.
55:59So if he ended up like a Dexter or something, you know, yeah, like in a Newbery part would
56:06be long ride.
56:07So, yeah, you're you're Goves, Brooks, Pingree, right, like Phillips Exeter, and now if he
56:17bored, then he can kind of go wherever he wants.
56:19But he would be my guess is he would have picked a school with established talent.
56:24He plays on a top line, top power play in that first year.
56:26He probably has 50, 60 points.
56:29And then that next year, he probably has 40 plus goals.
56:31And you're just like, yeah, how in the world do we stop you?
56:34Yeah, I, he would have been nasty in prep, but he said he lit it up at Shattuck, so good
56:41for him.
56:42I hope he goes early.
56:43But yeah, I think we've touched on everything today.
56:46I don't think we've missed anything.
56:47We went almost an hour.
56:48I told you initially 30 minutes we just know we cruise, we cruise through all this stuff,
56:53which is fun.
56:54There's only one thing you missed.
56:56What was it?
56:57And that would be like, do you drop a bomb and then you're like, I don't know, I don't
57:01know.
57:02Like, do you drop a bomb and then do you trade one of your core pieces?
57:06That'd be it.
57:07Oh my God.
57:08We're going to go another hour.
57:09Yeah.
57:10So that's not that's a topic for a different day.
57:15We can save it.
57:16But by core pieces, you mean one of Pasternak, McAvoy or Swayman, correct?
57:20Something like that.
57:21Yeah.
57:22Or even like a Martian, like he's 36.
57:26What what do you potentially get for someone like that?
57:30That's the thing.
57:31I don't know.
57:32I mean, I think I was saying last offseason, if you weren't going to make Martian captain,
57:37what would be the point of keeping him around?
57:38Because that's humiliating for a guy who's been on the team that long to not get captain.
57:41He'd be worth something.
57:42His contract's palatable.
57:45But now I think I think he's a Bruin for life.
57:47And I don't think they're not inclined to make those big seismic core shifting trades.
57:52And I don't think you have to.
57:54I think with the three we mentioned of Swayman, Pasternak and McAvoy, you're not trading Pasternak
58:00because he's a 50 goal score and you needed one of those for like 30 years.
58:04McAvoy is a legitimate top 10 defenseman in the NHL and can be a top five guy and plays
58:10the way you kind of need a top defenseman to play.
58:15Swayman's an interesting one because like you could make everyone's like, oh, the Bruins
58:19got to go get Brady Kachuk.
58:20The Bruins got to go get Brady Kachuk because Felger's been saying it nonstop.
58:24I don't know.
58:25Ottawa's not trading Brady Kachuk.
58:26He's their captain.
58:27He's a he's a hot commodity.
58:29Why would they ever trade him?
58:32But if you were to make a trade for that, like Swayman would have to be a centerpiece
58:35in that.
58:36I mean, I guess there is a case if you want to trade Swayman, you could, you know, re-sign
58:41Omar, keep him for a few years, bring Bussy up, you know, hope that he hits.
58:47Maybe you can get away with that.
58:48But I don't know, man, you seem to have something in Swayman and you don't trade those guys
58:52away.
58:53So.
58:54Hey, I just it was that I said, that's the only thing we miss.
58:57I know.
58:58We can come back to.
58:59That's it.
59:00We can come back to that.
59:01We can come back to that.
59:02Anyways, Carl, always a fun time with you.
59:06We'll have to have you back on during the summer at some point again.
59:09Have me on whenever.
59:10I appreciate the time.
59:12Of course.
59:13Have a good summer, by the way.
59:14I'm sure I'll see you at rinks and things like that.
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