The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 1
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00:00I think I'm going to be a saint in the center of she comes for me.
00:29I will absolutely dominate her.
00:31I'm lying.
00:32The truth always comes around.
00:33It does, unfortunately.
00:35You have no idea what's coming for you.
00:36You're keeping receipts.
00:37Who knows when you're going to unlock that vault and just sabotage someone.
00:41It's like you've never done it.
00:42Just touch my wife.
00:44This is the real Kevin Moore.
00:47Let's fucking move past this.
00:50We all are traumatized, but we don't go around hurting the people we love.
00:54Do I do petty shit?
00:56Yes.
00:57Got to go head on in the storm.
00:58You want to call me a shitty wife?
01:00Let's talk about you.
01:01Someone's going to win and someone's going to lose and it's going to destroy the group
01:03as a whole.
01:04You should literally be in jail.
01:06I will create a whole nother fucking mom talk.
01:08Not on my watch, bitch.
01:09What is even happening?
01:10It's getting easier.
01:11I'm the one you've been dreaming of, I got everything you could ever want, try me in your
01:34I'm the one you've been dreaming of, I got everything you could ever want, try me in your
02:03What has life been like?
02:05What's changed?
02:06What's the same?
02:07Tell us everything.
02:09Well, this will be freeing.
02:13The sex goddess is here.
02:21Wait, one boob might be bigger.
02:25Is that better?
02:26♪ They wanna know how we do it ♪
02:30What's the hot goss over here?
02:32Yeah, what do you got?
02:33What's the 411?
02:33What's everyone been talking about?
02:37We are at the Gracie Lu Cowboy Pillows event,
02:39and I'm so excited to be here with all the girls
02:41and just enjoy a fun influencer event, Western themes.
02:44So dressing up for this event is the perfect way
02:47to kick off one of my favorite holidays, which is Halloween.
02:50Sometimes there's a misconception,
02:52do Mormons celebrate Halloween?
02:53Yes, we do.
02:54And Mom Talk loves it as well.
02:56Is it a bad bowl or a good bowl?
02:57I have to pee, maybe I should pee first.
02:59Hey, Kayla.
03:00We got mom bladders.
03:01Ah!
03:02Ah!
03:02Ah!
03:03Ah!
03:04Ah!
03:05Ah!
03:06That's harder than I thought.
03:07Wait, how do I hold on?
03:09Look, Kayla, be sexy.
03:11Life has been a blur.
03:16The last few months, Mom Talk has grown even bigger.
03:20It's become a nationwide trend.
03:22We're seeing women doing their Mom Talk groups
03:24all across the US, which is so crazy.
03:27I love what Mom Talk is doing right now,
03:28the way that we are trying to modernize people in the church.
03:31We've helped move the needle
03:33in the way that Mom Talk intended to
03:35when it comes to the patriarchy.
03:38The brand deals have been way up.
03:40My husband, his entire yearly salary
03:42is how much I make on one brand deal.
03:44So Jace is in his full stay-at-home dad era right now,
03:48and he's loving it.
03:49I think the perceptions of Mormons
03:51has definitely changed worldwide.
03:53We're just living our life.
03:54Making videos and smashing men's hearts.
03:57I'm just kidding.
04:00Yes, we did get both good and bad responses.
04:03With the church, we'll say we ruffled our feathers.
04:07I do think the church had an issue
04:09with Mom Talk trying to break the patriarchy,
04:11but YOLO, it's fine.
04:14We weren't bashing the church
04:15or talking about it negatively.
04:16We were just shining a light
04:17on the things that do need to change.
04:19Mom Talk is gonna continue to push the church
04:22and the people and the culture
04:23to modernize towards today.
04:26And if anyone tries to shit on Mom Talk,
04:28they will be ready to fight.
04:30It's very on brand for us.
04:32Woo!
04:33Oh!
04:33Jen!
04:34Jen!
04:36Are you kidding me?
04:37Wow!
04:37Woo!
04:39I got you!
04:40There is no sexy way to get off that.
04:42No, no.
04:43It's not gonna happen.
04:43But I make it so look hot.
04:45Wait, is that Whitney?
04:46Wait, yes it is.
04:47Yeah.
04:49Oh, oh, oh.
04:51Do us close, eyes open.
04:54I see you trying to see me, but you can't see me.
04:56Can't nobody do it better than I do.
04:59Hi!
05:00Oh my gosh, this is so cute.
05:02Oh, thank you.
05:05New Whitney, new hair.
05:06That's how it goes.
05:07Hey!
05:09Uh-oh.
05:09Hey!
05:10How are you?
05:11I'm good, how are you?
05:12How you doing?
05:13Good.
05:14Yeah, how's the pregnancy?
05:15Oh God, I'm like...
05:16Two weeks.
05:17Please get this out of me.
05:19A Whitney, Whitney, Whitney.
05:21Whitney was deemed kind of the villain.
05:23And she earned every bit of that title.
05:26She didn't attend Taylor's baby shower
05:28or Macy's baby mama event.
05:31She has unfollowed us, blocked us, ignored us.
05:35She has upset every single person in the group.
05:38Whitney is no longer a part of Mom Talk,
05:40and rightfully so.
05:41And she's the one that removed herself from the group.
05:44Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.
05:48Whitney is definitely on the outs.
05:49This is the circle.
05:50She's out here.
05:52So, how does it feel to be pinned as the villain?
05:56Ooh, okay.
05:58I think everyone's pissed
05:59because I haven't apologized for leaving Mom Talk.
06:02And especially with me saying like,
06:04good luck without me, like, oopsies.
06:07Do you have any regrets?
06:10No, I think if there was,
06:12then I would probably say it to them.
06:14No one owes Whitney anything
06:16when her behavior is the way that it is.
06:17Exactly.
06:18She's a little bit of a narcissist.
06:20I have no interest in having a friend like that.
06:21I don't want drama.
06:22I don't want bad feelings.
06:23I just don't want to be her friend.
06:24There you go.
06:25Get in front.
06:26There you go.
06:26Even though I'm not in Mom Talk,
06:28this is my livelihood.
06:29I have to come to these things.
06:30I think everybody has sticks up their butts.
06:33Has the fame already gone to our heads?
06:36Hi.
06:37Yee-haw, baby.
06:38Yee-haw, babes.
06:39Come on in.
06:40Why did I say that?
06:42You?
06:42Why did I straight up the ass?
06:45I sat on the magazine.
06:47Yeah, smart.
06:48I sat on the magazine.
06:49Does anyone have some tobacco?
06:50I got some chew.
06:52I got some spud.
06:53I get really into the role play.
06:55I know you do.
06:57Oh, Lord.
06:58Is that Miranda?
06:59What the hell?
07:01Oh, shit.
07:02What?
07:03It can't be.
07:03Shut up.
07:04Miranda really came?
07:05Holy shit.
07:06Wait, she looks hot.
07:07She really does.
07:08She looks hot.
07:09Ladies.
07:10Hello.
07:13Miranda is Taylor's ex-best friend,
07:16and she's one of the original mom talkers
07:18from when Taylor started the group.
07:20Miranda and her ex-husband, Chase,
07:22were the couple heavily involved in the swinging
07:24with Taylor and her ex-husband.
07:26Taylor started talking about it.
07:27No one was innocent.
07:28Everyone has hooked up with everyone in the situation.
07:31It came out.
07:32It became public, and it was explosive on the internet.
07:34Miranda and her ex-husband panicked.
07:36She left mom talk, and they denied everything,
07:39which made Taylor look worse.
07:40Last I heard, Miranda got divorced,
07:42and she's back in town.
07:43I think it's pretty ballsy of her to show up
07:45to this influencer event.
07:48Hi, mom talk.
07:49Did you miss me?
07:51Can I sit with you guys?
07:53My name is Miranda McWhorter,
07:54and you might recognize me
07:55from being one of the mom talk OGs.
07:59Just kidding.
08:00Obviously, people know me from the whole swinging scandal.
08:03Taylor's a very vocal person,
08:05and everybody has heard her side of the scandal,
08:08but I'm finally here to tell mine.
08:10What are you, what's going on?
08:12Yeah, I know.
08:13The last time I feel like anything mom talk related,
08:16you're like, I don't know if I'd ever.
08:18I know, I'm eating my words now.
08:19You're on the show.
08:20What's going on right now?
08:21Okay, wait, I need to hear everything.
08:23You're divorced, and like, did you see it coming?
08:26Yeah, I mean, I think when I made the decision,
08:28I was sure about it,
08:29and it just was not gonna work as a relationship,
08:33and I had tried for so long,
08:35and I realized that it was, you know,
08:36I think our kids would be better off
08:39if we did end up cutting ties when we did.
08:41So did you initiate it?
08:42I did.
08:42I have a question.
08:44So if you're here, like, talking to everyone,
08:46are you like trying to do a mom talk again?
08:48Like, what's the contradiction?
08:49I feel like that's the only explanation.
08:51I don't see another explanation.
08:52Yes.
08:53I think it all comes back to the fact
08:55that I'm not married anymore.
08:57Like, for our marriage,
08:58I just didn't think it was the best thing.
08:59You're here, so we're just gonna go all out.
09:01Was there a part of you that was trying to protect,
09:04like, the lie around the swinging thing?
09:06Were you involved in the swinging?
09:11Well, the thing is, is, like,
09:12the height of what I was ever involved in
09:14was, like, playing spin the bottle
09:17and, like, kissing other people,
09:18and so it was very jarring for me
09:21for Taylor to come out and say, like,
09:23everyone was hooking up with everyone
09:25because that was simply not the case at all.
09:27We've all heard the exact opposite.
09:28I'm so confused.
09:29No one had sex ever, period.
09:31I kinda wanna hear from, like,
09:32Taylor and you to hear the story
09:34because we're hearing two completely different things.
09:37I will go to my grave.
09:38What?
09:40My mind's just been blown.
09:41That's crazy.
09:43It's pretty wild that after so much time,
09:45Miranda has been completely silent
09:47about the swinger scandal,
09:49and she's finally coming out and talking about it
09:52and admitting to things,
09:54but it is a little strange to me
09:55because her story and Taylor's version of the story
09:59are not completely lining up,
10:00so I'm a little confused as to who's telling the truth.
10:04You've never touched a wiener?
10:06Never touched a wiener.
10:06Not one time.
10:07A wiener.
10:08Even with your mouth?
10:09Yeah.
10:10Your mouth never came in contact with one.
10:11Oh my God.
10:12Really?
10:13So who's telling the truth?
10:15I have zero reason to believe that Taylor's lying
10:17because she's been nothing but honest to me
10:20and to the world about her details
10:22and the swinging in her personal life,
10:24and this has been something
10:25that has eaten Taylor up for years.
10:27I know how hard it is for Taylor,
10:28and I wanna protect her,
10:30and I don't want the lies from Miranda
10:32to create the cracks in the group.
10:37Oh, speak of the devil.
10:40I'm trying to find my girls.
10:41Oh my goodness, sorry guys, I am late.
10:43Is this the new mom talk?
10:44You guys look so good.
10:45This is it.
10:46Welcome.
10:47He did it at first for like a lip read.
10:49I do feel very shocked when I see Miranda.
10:54Pretty uncomfortable, I will say,
10:56because I haven't really talked to her since everything,
11:00so, and I don't know why she's here, I guess.
11:05I'm very confused.
11:07Tay, do you wanna go here?
11:08Okay, you can go here and we'll move all this.
11:09Do you want me to sit right by Miranda?
11:11She was one of the girls participating
11:14in the swinging scandal.
11:15Her husband was the one that came and told me
11:17that he had feelings for me.
11:18That's where the story gets confusing
11:20because I stole my best friend's husband,
11:22but that's never been the case.
11:23Miranda was my best friend.
11:24I would have never done that to her ever.
11:27I won't bite you and I won't kiss you, I promise.
11:29Not this time.
11:32Oh, wait, we didn't clarify that, so you guys kissed.
11:35What?
11:36Like you're asking if we have?
11:39How are you feeling?
11:40Horrible.
11:41How are you guys?
11:42I'm sorry.
11:46It's been a lot, guys.
11:47Miranda and I have yet to conversate
11:49about our whole situation,
11:51but I did not wanna hash any of this out today
11:53because I'm exhausted of what I'm dealing with
11:55in my own relationship with Dakota.
11:57So Dakota was involved with the girl
12:01during our early dating.
12:02He swore that nothing really had happened besides kissing,
12:06and then he finally came forward after all this time
12:08saying that there was more to that story.
12:10I was lied to for two years.
12:14I have been in pure sadness,
12:18but I feel like ego's kinda kicking in,
12:19being like, I'm actually nobody's fucking second choice,
12:23so if that's what you wanted, I wouldn't.
12:25I feel like old Taylor's coming back.
12:27Do you not see it?
12:28I feel like so betrayed.
12:29I'm in denial that this is even real right now,
12:32and I don't know if I even want to move forward.
12:36People have been doing you dirty for too long.
12:40Yeah.
12:47♪ Everybody get down when we get it together ♪
12:52♪ We got the power ♪
12:59How are you feeling about everything with you and Zach?
13:01As for my relationship with Zach,
13:06it's been a few months of straight hell since Vegas.
13:09You say I'm not gonna be married
13:11to someone who doesn't have values and morals.
13:13He treats you like shit.
13:14That's gross.
13:15I really don't, I don't really care.
13:18Currently, we are separated.
13:23I never thought I would get to this point.
13:26I've decided to come back to Utah
13:30and be back with mom talk.
13:40Today, Zach asked if he could come down to Utah
13:43to talk to me.
13:45I was pretty firm about us being separated
13:47so I can figure out what I need
13:49and just what's best for our relationship.
13:52It's hard because a couple months ago,
13:55Zach and I were committed to going to New York
13:58for med school.
13:59I honestly think you're gonna love New York.
14:01Do you think I'll be missing mom talk?
14:03I honestly don't.
14:05But then Zach got accepted to Arizona.
14:07We ended up moving to Arizona.
14:08Things for Zach and I continue to be pretty rocky.
14:12For me to want to fight for a marriage,
14:14I need to feel like he's putting my feelings before his.
14:20Hi.
14:21Hi, baby.
14:22Hi.
14:26Can I come in?
14:27Yeah, sure.
14:28Where do you want me to put this?
14:30You just put it right there.
14:31Yeah.
14:34This place looks nice.
14:35Isn't it cute?
14:36Yeah.
14:37If you don't mind, I'd like it to be my new spot too.
14:42The last couple months have been hard, obviously.
14:45Been really hard.
14:50I know I messed up, the way I treated you.
14:54No matter what you had done, those things
14:56should have never been said.
14:57And I have to live with that the rest of my life.
15:00I want to prove to you that I love you
15:04and that I am a good husband.
15:06I am a good mom.
15:07I am a good dad.
15:08That I love you and that I am a good husband.
15:11I am a good father.
15:12I want to fight for a marriage, and that's why I'm here.
15:15After Vegas, it felt like the whole world was against us
15:21and wanted us to get a divorce.
15:23And I had so many regrets about how I had acted
15:26and the way things had gone down.
15:28I definitely feel like there's still a lot of work
15:33to do as far as changing and becoming who I want to be.
15:37There's a lot of therapy I've been working on.
15:39As long as you want to be here and you love her,
15:41you need to let her live her life the way she wants
15:43or she's never going to be happy.
15:45So I'm here letting you live your life the way you want
15:48so you can be happy.
15:50For so long, I think he truly believed that his feelings
15:54were more important.
15:55Within the Mormon church, it's very expected for the women
15:59to be submissive to their husbands.
16:01But for me, whether this helps me become a stronger
16:05or maybe turn away from the church,
16:08I think in order for this marriage to work,
16:11we have to be equals.
16:13I want to fight for our marriage,
16:15but I feel like I've been blaming myself for so many years,
16:20thinking that I was the issue or I was too sensitive.
16:24I feel like this is the first time in my life
16:26that I need to put my foot down.
16:28I want my partner to know me so well
16:33that they'll think of me and my feelings
16:36before anything else.
16:38And anyone who doesn't respect that,
16:41I, like, they're not going to be a part of my life.
16:47Even if I were to have gone to Chippendales,
16:51danced with those men,
16:54I'm still the mother of your children.
16:57I'm still your wife.
17:00Do you know what I'm saying?
17:03It's time that I put my foot down.
17:07I'm choosing MomTalk.
17:09Yeah.
17:10And if that means I want to go to Chippendales,
17:12I can go to Chippendales.
17:13And if you don't like that, then, like...
17:16I think my actions speak a lot more than my words,
17:19and, like, I'm...
17:22I'm here.
17:23Like, you know, I reached out to my dean
17:26and put in my application to leave medical school.
17:29And my feelings towards MomTalk
17:31haven't, honestly, completely changed.
17:34But I feel like a lot of our marriage,
17:36I've made it about me and the things I want to do,
17:38and you've kind of just supported me in that.
17:41I don't know what I'm going to do with my life, to be honest.
17:44Yeah.
17:45But I'm here to support you
17:47and support your career.
17:50You're willing to give me a chance.
17:52Like, that's all I'm asking for, to show you.
17:56I'm asking if I can stay.
17:59Um...
18:09The thing that I'm worried about is,
18:12does a part of you still feel like you want to go back
18:15to do medical school?
18:17Yeah, I mean, I do have a year leave of absence,
18:19so it is possible, but for now, I'm just focusing on us.
18:23Like, I need someone right now.
18:26Well, I'm here.
18:28I know, but you've been a dick to me.
18:32Yeah, yeah, I know, sweetie.
18:36I know why you're mad at me,
18:38and not only that, but your friends,
18:40the MomTalk girls.
18:42To be honest, it is a little bit hard
18:44to be a part of MomTalk right now
18:46because of all of that.
18:49Do you think you'd want to have a conversation
18:52with some of the girls?
18:55I mean...
18:57hearing the things that they said about me,
18:59a lot of those things were all, like, blatant lies.
19:01But I reached out to every single one of the girls.
19:04Do you guys want to hear the voice memo?
19:06What, you have it? I have it!
19:08Hey, Jessie, this is Zach.
19:10Just wanted to send you guys a quick voice message.
19:12Obviously, I, you know, never plan on those texts being seen,
19:15but they were, and regardless, I shouldn't be...
19:18I never planned on those texts being seen.
19:20Is he only apologizing because he got caught?
19:23Anyways, thank you so much. Hope you guys are doing well.
19:25This is, like, a copy and paste of what he said.
19:27It is, yeah.
19:28Like, it was, like, a script.
19:29And it's chat GPT.
19:30No, 100%.
19:32And did they respond?
19:34No, I... I...
19:36Because, I mean, I realized what I did was wrong.
19:38Obviously, those texts were never meant to be shared,
19:40but still, like, I shouldn't have been
19:42saying those things.
19:45For me to let you back into my life
19:48and for us to give this another shot,
19:51I think I'm going to need a lot of time
19:53to just think about this.
19:56So I think that we should keep the Arizona home
19:59until changes are being made.
20:01Leaving med school isn't enough.
20:06So with that being said, if you are going to live here,
20:09what changes are you going to make?
20:13Obviously, you can't change overnight.
20:15I think this is going to be a long journey.
20:17I definitely have a lot of expectations for him
20:21this time around.
20:22And there's going to be some boundaries
20:24and guidelines moving forward.
20:26I'm trusting you that you can show up for me.
20:32Yeah.
20:33I'm trusting you that you'll be on my side.
20:38Meaning you won't talk over me,
20:40but meaning you'll hear me out.
20:41Meaning you'll understand and validate me.
20:43Yeah.
20:44Meaning that you will generally think of me and my feelings
20:47before your own feelings,
20:48which I know is going to be very, very hard
20:50with your personality.
20:52But that's what I need.
20:53That's what I want.
20:55And every woman deserves that.
20:59I do believe Jen and I were meant to be together,
21:02and I felt that since the day I met her.
21:04And I will continue to fight for that
21:06as long as she also wants the same.
21:08I think a lot of people who are raised in the church
21:10are raised in a particular way,
21:12and they don't even really realize some of these patterns.
21:14I put a lot of pressure on myself and Jen
21:17to be a certain way.
21:19I'm not currently going to church,
21:21and I'm hoping moving forward that we can just be
21:24a little bit more authentic to ourselves.
21:26Can I have a hug?
21:27You can have a handshake.
21:29Just kidding.
21:30Okay.
21:33I love you.
21:34I love you.
21:35At least we're not going through
21:36what Dakota and Taylor are going through.
21:42Hi, I'm Taylor.
21:43When I was four years old,
21:44I met my dad for the first time.
21:45He said, what's up, kid?
21:47And that was the only thing I got.
21:48And then I brought the gummy bears.
22:07Hello.
22:08Hi.
22:09How are you?
22:10Good, how are you?
22:11You look so cute.
22:12Yeah, right.
22:13You do.
22:14We match the same vibe.
22:15We do.
22:16Cozy.
22:17Sweats.
22:18Cozy comfort.
22:19Yeah, I'm always in sweats,
22:20so that's how it is for me.
22:21How are you feeling?
22:22Not good.
22:24I'm, like, obviously freaking out.
22:28Right after Ever was born,
22:30Dakota and I were living together
22:32and in bliss with our new baby,
22:34and I was even considering engagement,
22:36and then I learned that he was lying this entire time.
22:39If this is stating that I've cheated on you
22:41since I've dated you, not true.
22:44Dakota is a liar.
22:46Big shocker.
22:48So I talked to Jenna earlier this year.
22:50Hi, is this Jenna?
22:52I just have some questions about you and Dakota.
22:55And once I told Taylor about it,
22:57she wanted to kind of push back and hold off,
22:59especially until she had the baby.
23:01Today, I am meeting with Jenna.
23:04I'm ready to finally get the full story
23:07from both ends.
23:09My point here today is to get clarity on all of it.
23:12I have dates down to the T in my brain
23:15of what was said and what was done,
23:17so I know what he told me when he was at my house
23:20and everything, so...
23:22I've done a lot of shitty things,
23:24and maybe this was my karma.
23:26But I feel like I've had my karma already.
23:28So, like, why am I still getting karma?
23:30I don't think it's karma.
23:32I think it's just, like, you're, like, in the space
23:34where it's time to, like, move forward.
23:37Should we sit?
23:38Yeah.
23:39We just need to relax for a second.
23:41It's so hard stepping in stone.
23:42I feel, like, really sick.
23:43I know. It's gonna be hard, but it's, like,
23:45you need to know this to move forward in either direction.
23:47Oh!
23:48Because you already know what they're gonna be about.
23:50No, I don't. Like, yeah, but I don't.
23:52This will be, like, the closure you need
23:55to, like, close this chapter,
23:56whether it goes well or bad.
23:58It's, like, at least you know,
23:59and it's not gonna eat you alive anymore.
24:04Yeah, we're good.
24:06Life's great.
24:07If Jenna confirms what Dakota has told me,
24:09I do feel like we can move forward.
24:14But if he is still lying, I'm done.
24:17Don't be a bitch.
24:18Don't be a bitch.
24:35But I made it.
24:45Everything's gonna be great.
24:46Don't worry.
24:49Okay, I'll get it.
24:58Hello!
24:59Come on in.
25:00Glad you made it, okay.
25:01Yes.
25:03Um, you can just sit over there.
25:24How's it going?
25:25Good. How are you?
25:27I'm okay.
25:28Yeah?
25:29Yeah.
25:32I can't even tell you how incredibly awkward this is.
25:34Like, oh, gosh, I don't even know what to do.
25:37I'm like, do I turn a song on?
25:39Do we hold hands and sing?
25:41Like, what do we do?
25:42I don't even know.
25:43It's the most awkward thing in my entire life.
25:44It's, like, dead silent.
25:47It's, like, so uncomfortable.
25:48Yeah, I know.
25:49I hate it.
25:51But it's not you.
25:53It's the situation.
25:54Yeah.
25:55And you're just, unfortunately,
25:56the one that was in the situation.
25:58Yeah.
25:59Like, I feel like I, like, needed this for, like, so long.
26:02Yeah.
26:03And I feel like I have such, like, so many trust issues
26:06and, like, anxiety and all the things,
26:08so, like, I just want you to feel good, you know?
26:10Yeah, well, thank you.
26:12I knew that there was something off,
26:13and I just wanted truth.
26:15Yeah, and I don't feel the same.
26:17I'll show you all the texts and all the things.
26:22Yeah, that would actually be great.
26:23Okay.
26:24I'm shaking.
26:26I'm glad that Jenna is coming forward
26:28and showing her messages,
26:29because it's not an easy thing to do.
26:31It's honestly incredibly awkward,
26:32and she basically said she would do it
26:34because she wouldn't want to be in Taylor's shoes,
26:36and she would want to know the truth.
26:44The silence.
26:45This is going to take a minute,
26:46so I want to say sorry.
26:47Yeah.
26:48You guys can keep talking.
26:50But, yeah.
26:51Yeah.
26:55Did you hang out August 3rd?
26:56Do you remember?
26:57There was one time we went to the trampoline park,
26:59one time we went to the dinosaur museum,
27:01and then one time he came over,
27:03and we watched a movie.
27:05What did you guys do that day?
27:06What did we say?
27:07It's saying, do you, like, want to come to me?
27:10You sent him your address.
27:12No, he said on my way.
27:14Okay.
27:15Yeah, he did, yeah.
27:16Okay.
27:17Yeah, he said he never hung out with you that day.
27:19Okay, well.
27:21So he spent the night that night?
27:23I don't know exactly if it was that night.
27:24I do know that he spent the night more than once.
27:29Okay.
27:30Okay, what did you do the first night you spent the night?
27:32Did you do anything with him?
27:33It says, I really hope you don't hate me.
27:35I'm sorry if that went, if we went too far last night.
27:39We never had sex, for sure.
27:40I'm, it's okay.
27:42You can be straight up.
27:43So, I feel like we did a little bit more than just making out.
27:45I feel like we just, like, probably did maybe hand stuff.
27:48I don't even think I would have done it to him, though.
27:50Because being raised Mormon, I just was like, so, I'm sinning.
27:54So, he's saying, hey, do you want, do you want to come over?
27:58I'm just hanging with friends.
27:59So, did you go to him that night?
28:00August 4th?
28:015th.
28:02No, I didn't go that night.
28:03But, clearly, he invited you over.
28:05Yeah.
28:06Yeah.
28:13He was, like, texting me all day this day.
28:15He came over to your house.
28:16And he's saying, thank you for letting me crash at your house.
28:18And he came over that night to my house and spent the night and fucked me.
28:21So, yeah.
28:24He apologized for everything, like, that night.
28:28It's so awful.
28:29This is actually so awful.
28:30He definitely lied a ton.
28:34So, he deleted a lot?
28:35Yeah.
28:37Now I get why he was so terrified of all of this.
28:41I found out a lot of things that were not being told the truth this entire time.
28:46He made it seem like she was the one that was always instigating and begging.
28:50No, it was him.
28:51He said he had just kissed her on the couch.
28:54Nope.
28:55He went on the couch.
28:56They hooked up on the couch.
28:57And then they went to the room.
28:58They hooked up.
28:59He's trying to hang out with her in the day, respecting her, apologizing because he went
29:03too far with her, which he didn't freaking even have sex with her, but he's apologizing to her.
29:09Where the fuck is my apology for hurting me that day?
29:12I was the night girl that you came over to at night.
29:16And you were asking her on date dates and telling her cute things.
29:21I feel like a piece of fucking trash.
29:25In our faith, we were taught to wait for the person that we want to marry and end up with.
29:31And I feel like, obviously, if I hadn't been sleeping with him that early on, I don't think I would have been as hurt.
29:37And it's why it's a guideline, because it's going to prevent these types of things from happening.
29:44I'm sorry, Jennifer.
29:46No, I'm sorry for this.
29:48And it's like, not even you.
29:50That's what sucks.
29:51So you posted a TikTok with him in your bathroom.
29:54And I just had like this feeling in my chest, like, don't trust him kind of.
29:58And I said, are you dating Taylor?
30:00And he told me, no, it's just for clout.
30:02And like, she's just helping me build my social media.
30:06He said that, that he was just seeing Taylor for clout.
30:09Yeah.
30:31It's okay.
30:33I'm so sorry.
30:35I hate it. I hate it.
30:38I just feel horrible for Taylor.
30:40Like, I, it's hard because I don't even know how to comfort her.
30:43I just feel for her.
30:44Like, I feel the pain that she's feeling.
30:46And like, I've never seen her like this.
30:48I'm over here asking him to hang out and he's lying and saying I can't.
30:52And he's like texting her to hang out.
30:54And saying Jenna baked me.
31:01He made you sound desperate.
31:04And he's the one texting you.
31:06But at least you don't know.
31:07Like, your feelings were right.
31:08It's valid what you were feeling this whole time.
31:11How do you do this?
31:15It's okay.
31:19You're so strong.
31:20But I loved him. I loved him.
31:22I know.
31:23I know.
31:30I know.
31:41What?
31:43It's just a spider.
31:45See, there's no one in that.
31:46You look like us.
31:47She does.
31:48She actually has three.
31:49Well, she's about to have three.
31:51Hello.
31:52Hey.
31:53I definitely missed the friendships that came with Mom Talk.
31:56I'm really hoping to be able to reconnect with Whitney.
31:58I've known Whitney for a few years now.
32:00And I did see her at the Cowboy Pillows event.
32:03But it has been a while since we've really been around one another.
32:07You look amazing.
32:08You look amazing.
32:09After the Cowboy Pillows event, I'm not sure where I stand with everybody.
32:13So, I'm starting with Whitney.
32:15I cannot believe it's as toasty as it is.
32:17I know, it was like so...
32:18Literally put all of us in hoodies.
32:19No, seriously.
32:20I'm like, I'm not even wearing anything under this.
32:22My kids aren't either.
32:23I'm like, I'm sweating.
32:24At least have a tank top.
32:25Gosh, I know.
32:26I mean, I guess I could lay out in my bra.
32:29There you go.
32:31I am one of the Mom Talk OGs.
32:33Taylor definitely, I feel like, ran the show.
32:36I think she's definitely the best at that.
32:38But Taylor had no plans of doing it by herself.
32:40So, I came.
32:41I first invited Whitney.
32:43And then it just kind of snowballed.
32:45Isn't Coco the same age as Liam?
32:47She just turned three.
32:48Oh my gosh, that's insane.
32:49Because I remember making videos when you were pregnant.
32:51Isn't that wild?
32:52I totally get why everyone's questioning and weird
32:55that Miranda's coming back into the fold right now.
32:57But genuinely, I just feel like I can relate with her.
33:00Because she obviously needed that time
33:02and is now having the courage or strength
33:04or whatever to come back.
33:06And also, can we please have a new villain?
33:09That person cannot be me.
33:12The cowboy pillows thing,
33:13they thought that you were still lying
33:16about this winging scandal.
33:17I don't think that's a conversation
33:19I would want to have with the other mom.
33:20No, and honestly, it's none of our business.
33:21So, who cares?
33:22Exactly.
33:23And that's the thing,
33:24is that I'm just like,
33:25I've always wanted to resolve it with just Taylor.
33:27Because it's like,
33:28even though she felt the need to do it,
33:29like, come out and do it online.
33:30Yeah.
33:31I'm also like,
33:32I would rather not solve it all online
33:34because there has been so much online.
33:36That's like the worst way to do it.
33:37Like, have we not learned our lesson yet?
33:38Yes.
33:39Holy hell.
33:40And I really just, honestly, overall,
33:41I just want it to be good for us.
33:43I know.
33:44I'm like, Taylor, girl,
33:45we've got to get you out of 2022.
33:46Yeah.
33:47Obviously, things were a little awkward
33:50at the event.
33:51So, I am hosting a happy hour at my house
33:55just to kind of break the ice.
33:58I kind of want to really get more of a feel
34:01if the girls are open to the idea
34:03of me rejoining MomTalk or not.
34:05And I invited Whitney
34:07because I would love to have a friend's support.
34:10I'm curious.
34:11I'm curious to see where time takes us.
34:14Like, the fact that you're coming back,
34:16I wonder if someone will leave.
34:18I'll make my own MomTalk with my kids.
34:30Suspect thinks of getting pregnant at 16 as a flex.
34:40What are you guys?
34:41I'm so nervous.
34:42This is so fun.
34:43I'm so scared.
34:44I can't wait to see Mikaela pee her pants.
34:46Have you guys gone to haunted houses before?
34:48I love this shit.
34:50I do it every year.
34:51I've been to many haunted houses.
34:52I love being scared.
34:53I don't really know if the church
34:54has a strong stance against it,
34:56but I do know that anything satanic
34:58that can invite in bad spirits is frowned upon.
35:01So, haunted houses are probably
35:02the more playful side of that.
35:04You're going to be fine.
35:05It's going to be just fine.
35:07My mom literally never took me to
35:09haunted houses ever.
35:13I hate haunted houses so much.
35:14They give me the worst vibes.
35:15You're going to be fine.
35:16Just close your eyes.
35:17I don't know why I'm paying for these people
35:19to make my skin crawl when Whitney does it for free.
35:26You guys, I really don't like this.
35:28Oh, God.
35:29This is going in my mouth.
35:30I just got an STD.
35:33Bye, Daddy.
35:34I feel like I'm missing a heart attack.
35:36I'm not kidding.
35:43That's it.
35:44I'm going back to church.
35:48Oh, my God.
35:49That was nuts.
35:50Yay!
35:51You did it!
35:52We deserve a drink.
35:53Literally, I'm thirsty after that.
35:55Make it a double.
35:56Ooh.
36:02Good job, guys.
36:03Cheers to surviving.
36:04Love talks survive.
36:07We got two saints and two sinners.
36:09Who's going to win?
36:10We're going to pull you guys to the dark side.
36:12Speaking of, can we bring up happy hour?
36:14Yeah.
36:15Can we talk about that first?
36:16Yeah.
36:17Why are we all invited?
36:18So Miranda DM'd us on Instagram out of the blue,
36:20all of the Mom Talk girlies.
36:22And she wants to have us over for a happy hour.
36:24I don't understand why she's trying so hard to reach out
36:27now when she had three years to do it and never cared to.
36:31I'm just kidding.
36:32I know why.
36:33Because she wants that bag, baby.
36:36I think she burnt her bridges, and now she sees
36:38how well Mom Talk is doing.
36:39And now she's just coming on back in
36:41at a convenient time, isn't she?
36:43But we can't let people in who just want clout.
36:45Anyone that comes in at this point is clout chasing.
36:48That just is what it is.
36:49Are you guys going to go?
36:51I don't really want to.
36:53Mikaela's like, am I forced to go?
36:54I'm like, anyway.
36:56And you're like, I don't know why we're even
36:58entertaining any of this shit.
37:00For us, it's like, why would we want to have you back in,
37:02you know?
37:03I'm curious, like, what she'll say, though,
37:05because I feel like the other day at the event,
37:07we were all shocked by what she was saying.
37:09Oh, I was having none of it.
37:10I was like, um.
37:11I feel like you guys were kissing her ass.
37:13What?
37:14No.
37:15Well, OK, I don't know Miranda,
37:16so that's the thing, is I don't know how to act.
37:18It's not me kissing ass or me being like,
37:21oh, I really want to give you a chance.
37:23It's that I literally don't give a shit
37:25about anything other than the truth.
37:27I want to hear both sides, if I'm being honest.
37:29Also, I'm not ever going to be the type of person
37:31that is just going to be, like, a bitch to be a bitch.
37:35No, I get that.
37:36No one's being a bitch.
37:37No one is.
37:38But also, again, like Whitney, it's
37:39a consequence of your own actions.
37:41If you're going to lie and then throw Taylor
37:43under the bus for two years, then obviously,
37:45we're going to give it back.
37:46It was so weird.
37:47Is it a lie, though?
37:48I would love to sit down Taylor and Miranda together.
37:50Me too.
37:51And just talk to both of them.
37:52You've never heard the story from both of them
37:54at the same time?
37:55Yeah.
37:56Which, who knows how that's going to go,
37:57because they're different stories.
37:58We're going to bring our popcorn,
37:59and we're just going to watch.
38:00What if they just start making out?
38:03I absolutely think that truth is the basis of trust.
38:06We need to sit down and have this conversation
38:08and completely hash this out, especially
38:10if Miranda is going to be welcomed back into the fold.
38:12It's hard, because I feel like there's
38:14always her side, her side, and then the truth.
38:17So I kind of want to just get to the bottom of it,
38:19because if Taylor was lying, that's a big deal.
38:22Oh, oh, here we go.
38:27This is the calm before the storm.
38:31Oh, oh, here we go.
38:34I can feel it coming on.
38:37It's coming on.
38:44Come in.
38:45Hi.
38:46Why do you have the baby?
38:47Because Dakota had to go to work.
38:49Why didn't you call me?
38:50I don't know.
38:52What?
38:53He didn't even ask me, so that's really weird.
38:56Oh, I know.
38:57After everything with Jenna, I call him.
39:00Like, you lied, like, way more than I thought.
39:03There was way more messages deleted.
39:04And I was like, how did you do this?
39:06Like, how have you done this to me?
39:07I was kind of, like, looking for some sort of, like,
39:09explanation.
39:10At the end of the day, there's just not.
39:11Like, what is done is done.
39:12All he can say is, like, I'm sorry.
39:14At that point, I distanced myself.
39:16For me, it was just, I don't even want to hear it.
39:18I don't want to hear the excuses.
39:19How are you feeling, by the way?
39:20Oh, I'm better.
39:21Does my face look OK?
39:23Yeah, yeah.
39:24Your swelling's going down.
39:25It's, like, going down.
39:26Yeah.
39:27How's it feeling?
39:28It's feeling OK.
39:29Do I look OK?
39:30Yeah.
39:31Do I look funny?
39:32No, you just look really swollen, so you look different.
39:33But, like, I think once it goes down, it'll be fine.
39:34Yeah.
39:35But you look good, and I love your nose.
39:36Oh, I love it, too.
39:37So my mom wanted to get a nose job
39:40and then got her whole face done.
39:45When I saw her post-surgery, I was like, mom, what did you do?
39:51She looked like she got hit by a bus.
39:53Do I look your age?
39:55I wouldn't go that far.
39:57But she's healing well.
39:59And if she feels great, great.
40:02Hi, buddy.
40:03He's so cute.
40:04Oh, I'm sorry, baby.
40:05I think he's teething.
40:07How are you doing?
40:09I'm OK.
40:12I met up with Jenna.
40:13Yeah.
40:14It's just all the lying that really hurts.
40:16I feel like I fell in love with, like, someone that, like,
40:19doesn't exist.
40:21He's not the guy that I thought.
40:23Yeah.
40:24Like, at all.
40:25Now it's like, where do we go from here?
40:27Yeah.
40:28And that blanket.
40:29I know.
40:31I feel like I just can't, like, even try, like.
40:36I feel like the only thing I've ever asked of Dakota
40:38is to be honest.
40:39Yeah.
40:40That is the only thing.
40:41If he was to walk away, like, could you handle it?
40:45I choose walking away than those things I just found out.
40:48It's going to be awful.
40:49Yeah.
40:50I agree.
40:51I don't want that.
40:52But I am not going to settle.
40:53I had a stepdad growing up.
40:54But I've always called him dad because he adopted me at two.
40:57And he's been the father throughout my life.
40:59So he's my dad.
41:00But I think my trust issues stem from my biological father
41:04leaving me at a young age.
41:05And I think that's why I'm so stuck.
41:07I met my dad once.
41:09My mom took me to a restaurant.
41:12I don't know.
41:13How old was I?
41:14Four, maybe?
41:15And he sees me.
41:16He's like, what's up, kid?
41:17And that's literally, like, all he says to me.
41:21And I remember, like, turning around and going back to my booth.
41:25I had never heard from my dad after that day.
41:28That has stuck with me more than I ever thought.
41:31When you feel like you're not loved by your dad,
41:34and that's the only words he has to say to you,
41:36I think, I don't know.
41:38I think there's just a wound there that's been there for a very long time
41:41that I've never addressed, and that's why I'm probably fixating on shit.
41:44I'm, like, really angry.
41:46Like, I'm, like, asking God.
41:47I'm like, why this too?
41:50Like, why this too?
41:52Like, I came into this relationship wanting it to be different
41:56and, like, loyal and good.
41:58I feel used and played and, like, trash.
42:01Like, why am I still on this couch crying, like, a year later?
42:05It's so annoying.
42:08I'm sorry.
42:11And I didn't even see it coming.
42:13It just sucks.
42:15Oh.
42:22I'm, like, angry.
42:26So what do you do?
42:28You keep trying.
42:30I really wish she would have thought of things before we got pregnant from him.
42:34She said, you know, like, take your time because it hurts everybody.
42:39Like, not just you.
42:40You have three kids now, and you need to focus
42:42and put their lives in front of yours, you and Dakota.
42:45Like, this needs to be your priority.
42:48That's a foundation of our lives, is our family.
42:51If anything that the LDS church has, like, that foundation of a family
42:56is something that I strongly believe in.
42:58Your generation, I think, is just like, okay, it's not working.
43:02See you later.
43:03And it's not like that.
43:05But it hasn't been working for two years.
43:07I know, but still, Taylor, you need to try.
43:12I'm at a loss.
43:13I'm at a loss right now.
43:15I do love Dakota, but at the same time, I won't ever be able to trust you.
43:19And so now it's like, what do we have?
43:21So I am going to tell him, please don't come back home.
43:24You are immediately out of my house because the only way we're ever going to work out
43:28is if you let me breathe for a minute.
43:32♪♪♪
43:37♪♪♪
43:49Okay, here we go.
43:52Hi.
43:53How are you guys?
43:54Good, how are you?
43:55Good, welcome.
43:56So just fill all this out.
44:00What do you want me to put, married or separated?
44:03Depends on the day.
44:05We'll put married for today.
44:06For today, I can put married.
44:07Yeah.
44:08Okay.
44:09Come on in.
44:10Zach and I definitely have a lot to work on,
44:13and ketamine therapy is supposed to reset a lot of past traumas
44:20or habits you've created.
44:23Ketamine is in the gray area when it comes to the church.
44:27Yeah, the church doesn't promote ketamine,
44:29but it's definitely not like a commandment.
44:31Zach trying ketamine is a pure example of how much he's willing to do
44:38to show up for a relationship.
44:42This reminds me of when I used to donate plasma.
44:46Is it too late to back out now?
44:48Yep, a little bit.
44:50You've started.
44:52Never thought we'd get to this point where we'd be doing drugs together.
44:57Whoa, it hit me.
45:00It's hitting me right now.
45:11That was the hardest thing I've ever done.
45:13Will you come cuddle next to me once you're done?
45:15Yeah.
45:22Okay, Zach, I'm just going to take your IV out now.
45:27Were we out for a long time?
45:29I can't remember.
45:31I'm going to come over and give you a hug.
45:33Whoa.
45:40I just had some memories of when we first started dating.
45:45It truly felt like you were like my missing piece.
45:50When we were in Hawaii, when we were running through the coffee fields,
45:54I was thinking, I was like,
46:00I was like, I would literally give anything in the world to relive that day.
46:12I just want us to be happy again.
46:15Yeah.
46:18Jen and I do love each other, and we are a team,
46:22and it's easy when you get back to the root of why you love each other.
46:27Being able to relive some of those memories
46:29and think about some of those times I've had with Jen,
46:32yeah, I just kind of realized just how special she is to me.
46:37A month before I met you, I remember kneeling down
46:42and I was praying out to God to help me find my person.
46:48And he led me to you.
46:52I want to fight for you, and I will always fight for you.
46:59I love you.
47:00I love you too.
47:03I'm glad we could come do this.
47:05Yeah, we need this.
47:07Do you still plan on meeting up with Demi and Jesse?
47:13It's important for me that Zach makes peace with Jesse and Demi
47:17because I feel like tossed in the middle.
47:19I just want to squash everything and it resolves a lot of the resentment
47:23I think they're holding about Zach.
47:26Might be a good time, you know, after ketamine.
47:29Might be in the right headspace to talk to them.
47:32Yeah, if they're really your best friends and they really care about you
47:36and I'm your husband, then it's important that we have that conversation.
48:05Taylor asked me to move out.
48:07I'm going to just move into a friend's house for, like, a little bit
48:12until I can figure out what to do.
48:14I don't know, it just sucks.
48:16When I saw Macy call Jenna, I don't know, I just didn't want more problems.
48:23So I actually decided to tell Taylor, like, yeah, we just made up.
48:29We, like, tri-humped.
48:31I fell asleep with her on the couch.
48:33The thing that I left out that was, like, a big one was just that we were in a room
48:37because I knew that one would, yeah, that one would hurt her.
48:43I deleted some messages that if she was to, like, read those,
48:47I thought that would essentially make me lose her and my son.
48:50I did lie.
48:52I was always doing it selfishly to protect myself.
48:55I just wish I was honest to her.
48:57But it's too late.
48:59It's hard, too, because our son's so perfect.
49:29I feel a lot of guilt for him, too.
49:37Just feeling like I let him down.
49:41I would do anything to have my family, to be with Taylor.
49:47And, yeah, unfortunately, I just, I hurt her really bad.
49:52And that I screwed up.
49:54And that these are also consequences of my own actions.
49:59I'm just sick of, yeah, I'm sick of hurting.
50:02And I'm sick of, like, destroying things in my life due to myself.
50:11Taylor's the one person I've loved the most out of anybody.
50:16It's just worth fighting for.
50:19And that's what I'm going to do.
50:39Going into the happy hour at my house, there's definitely some nerves there going on.
50:44I know that there is a lot of speculation about my intentions of rejoining Mom Talk.
50:52One of the biggest is because I'm a single mom now.
50:55And what I really am craving and wanting back is that support and that friendship.
51:01But I know that I'm going to kind of have to win these girls over.
51:05And I get it, but I for sure feel like I'm walking into a lion's den.
51:10Hello.
51:11Hi, how are you?
51:13We got a little mocktail situation going on here.
51:17Does that say Mom Talk on it?
51:18No.
51:19What the hell?
51:20I'm eating the M.
51:21Mom Talk's going to shit, so I'm going to go just eat it.
51:24Walking in to see Miranda's cheese spread that she's made for us.
51:28And the cheese words that said Mom Talk.
51:34I can't.
51:35The smell of desperation.
51:37Oh, Lord.
51:39Stop it.
51:47I'm just going to open it.
51:49I'm surprised to see Whitney here.
51:51I'm just going to have to play the game of just like stay away from Whitney.
51:55I do feel this sense of protectiveness around Mom Talk.
51:59And I do feel like we need to protect it from people like Whitney and maybe Miranda who might have ulterior motives.
52:05I don't want one more problem bleeding into the health of a Mom Talk.
52:10How are you?
52:11We're best friends here.
52:12Help yourself.
52:14I'm coming to this event today because I'm really loving building this relationship with Miranda.
52:19Not that I'm a swinger, but we have a lot of other things in common.
52:23We've got two kids.
52:25We're very level-headed people, and I just want to support her because I'm sure they're about to have a really awkward conversation.
52:31It's really good food.
52:33Honestly, yes.
52:35When did you go into labor with your other two?
52:37I don't get induced for everyone.
52:40I'm excited too because, like, I'm done.
52:42Oh, you're done with three and done.
52:44I always say three is the new six in Utah.
52:46Right?
52:47I don't know what to think about Miranda and Whitney's new relationship.
52:50I just feel like their whole friendship seems a little bit phony right now.
52:53And I honestly think it just came from a place of they're both trauma bonding over, you know, ruining friendships with everyone and leaving Mom Talk.
53:01Hello.
53:03Hi.
53:04Is this your house?
53:05Yes.
53:06It's so cute.
53:08What did I miss?
53:09Nothing yet.
53:10The vibes are just off.
53:13And I think it's because Mikayla, Layla, and Macy are against Miranda joining Mom Talk because they are team Taylor.
53:22But to be honest, I actually don't mind Miranda, and she's a single mother.
53:27So, as a woman, I don't see why we can't support her.
53:31If you guys are done eating, we can move over to the couch so you guys don't have to sit on the back of the couch.
53:36I'm going to be honest.
53:38I'm shocked you're still showing up to Mom Talk stuff.
53:40Oh, really?
53:41Yes.
53:42After everything.
53:43Wow.
53:44Also, with, like, Vegas, I don't know if I can trust you.
53:47Yeah.
53:48It's just like no one was there for you.
53:49Yeah.
53:50I mean, I literally reached out to everyone in the group message.
53:54You weren't in the group message, so you didn't see this.
53:56I basically said, like, hey, you guys, like, I'm struggling right now.
53:59Zach and I are struggling.
54:00I would appreciate it if you didn't feed into any of the negativity online right now.
54:04Yeah.
54:05Just while we're figuring stuff out, no one responded.
54:08Oh, gosh.
54:09I'm sorry.
54:10It's just sucky.
54:12Yeah.
54:13I would hate that.
54:15Hello.
54:16Hi.
54:17Come on in.
54:18I decided to come to Miranda's happy hour because I am trying to take control of my life.
54:23One, separating from Dakota, and two, I'm curious what she has to say to the group
54:28because if she decides to pull some lies out, I will be there to set it straight,
54:33but I will not be called a liar when I'm not a liar.
54:35I'm done with that.
54:37Macy.
54:41It's like having to bring up having a conversation.
54:43It's like too many people.
54:44I don't want to be, like, rude, but I also like, like, if you're the one inserting yourself
54:49into our group now, like, I feel like we almost have to, like, say how we feel.
54:54Oh, gosh.
54:56There's memories.
54:57Oh, like what kind of memories?
54:58I'd love to get all that cleared up.
55:00Now's the time to prank.
55:03So, clearly, there's a conversation to be had.
55:05Yeah.
55:06Between Taylor and Miranda.
55:08No, I think everyone.
55:10Macy.
55:11Oh.
55:12Let's do it.
55:13Well, I guess my first question is, what was the intention between inviting all of us over here?
55:18Like, I'm genuinely curious because we haven't really talked to you in, like, two years.
55:21Right.
55:22I was kind of like, I just would like to have you guys over to kind of, like, clear the air,
55:26have it be like an icebreaker.
55:28I really want to put everything behind us and move forward.
55:31I feel like it all just comes down to timing again.
55:33I just feel like convenient timing to come back in and be like, oh, I'm ready to be friends again.
55:37Everything feels kind of fake to me about it.
55:39Even the conversation we had just the other day at the event, it was like, oh, we only kissed.
55:43And I was like, well, that's not what we had at all either.
55:48It's frustrating when someone's lying through their teeth.
55:51And because you're threatening my relationship with all of my girls and mom talk,
55:56I hope that the girls will have my back because it's going to get messy for sure.
56:09What I'm hearing is you deserve what you got.
56:11You're saying I was trash when you guys are together.
56:14It's eating you alive.
56:15Don't touch me.
56:16Don't touch me.
56:17Don't touch me.
56:19Mom talk.
56:20Within this group, there are so many secrets, so many lies.
56:23Do you ask her about the confession that Macy got?
56:25I slept with Demi's husband last year.
56:28This is not what we were a year ago.
56:31Seems like everybody's got skeletons in the closet.
56:34Who's lying to us?
56:35The only time I touched anyone was kissing.
56:37That is a lie.
56:38Is that true or false?
56:40That is 100% a blatant lie.
56:42The crap that I've been through for defending you and your actions.
56:45This is our marriage.
56:46This isn't a game.
56:47I gave consent for your husband to rub his little dick on me.
56:53Okay, well, this escalated quickly.
56:55Dear kind Heavenly Father, please strengthen our friends.
56:58I don't let myself feel sometimes.
57:00And it's still hard for me.
57:02I would be fighting to the death defending you.
57:05Does this mean I'm back in mom talk?
57:08I'm calling you out on your shit.
57:10Kate, let's fucking do it.
57:12The truth needs to be brought to light.
57:14It'll never be the same, ever.
57:16I'm just not her biggest fan for what she's done to you.
57:18Yeah.
57:19Denise is trying to get the whole group against me.
57:21I will make her look like such a fool.
57:23She was playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
57:26Look at you fucking lie.
57:27Oh, shit.
57:28World War III is breaking out.
57:33What the fuck you gonna do?
57:34What the fuck you gonna do?