Tory MP Matt Vickers has faced intense questioning on GB News over the Conservative Party's proposed Deportation Bill, with presenters challenging him on why his party won't leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).The grilling came as the Conservatives unveiled plans for a new bill that would disapply the Human Rights Act in immigration cases.READ THE FULL STORY HERE
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00:00What are you proposing, this deportation bill? Tell us what's involved in that and what's that about?
00:08So it's game changing. We're saying, as we did in office, that if you come to this country illegally,
00:13you should be detained and you should be removed. We're saying that anybody who comes to this
00:17country should be subject to mandatory age verification, i.e. we should use whatever
00:22tech and science we've got to check what age these people are. But more than that,
00:25we're saying that if you commit a crime in this country, at the moment, if you commit a crime in this country,
00:30you've got to be sentenced to more than a year before you'll be deported. We're saying if you commit a crime
00:34on our turf, you should be sent back to wherever you came from.
00:38And the big problem with that has been the courts and the Human Rights Act. We're saying we should
00:42disapply the Human Rights Act when it comes to cases of deportation,
00:46when it comes to cases of immigration. The Human Rights Act shouldn't count.
00:50It should be about the law that's created in that place and it being served in the courts properly.
00:54I did not say that. I haven't. Have you heard us say that?
00:57Yeah, why have you fallen short of saying you'll leave the ECHR? Why have you not said that?
01:01You've fallen short of that.
01:04So in terms of application, in terms of if you look at the cases that get tied up,
01:08the chicken, well, chicken nugget gate, we saw the carry-on of a guy who should have been deported
01:13but made the case that his kids don't like foreign chicken nuggets and therefore he should get to stay.
01:17We've got to see the case of a paedophile who said if he was returned to his country,
01:20he'd face hostility. These were Human Rights Act cases.
01:23These were cases that went in our domestic courts and were rejected on the grounds of Human Rights Act.
01:28We're saying we will disapply that. This is going to remove that logjam.
01:32It's going to allow us to deport those foreign criminals.
01:34It's going to allow us to get our immigration system fixed and fit for purpose.
01:38But, Matt, I don't really understand how you can disapply...
01:42You know, you just say, we're applying it here.
01:45We're not applying it next week. We're, you know, we're applying it the week after that.
01:48You're either in the ECHR or you're not in it.
01:53The Human Rights Act is Britain's part in that, but actually the law should be decided by the guys in there.
02:01The guys that the British public, watching you this morning, are electing people into Parliament to make the law.
02:07That should be the law. It should be the law that British people want.
02:10It should be the law made by the people they send to Parliament, not by somebody else, hidden away.
02:14Judges deciding what the law should and shouldn't be.
02:16We're saying when it comes to immigration, when it comes to deportation, the law as it stands, as it's created by Parliament, should be upheld, regardless of the Human Rights Act.
02:25If someone is up for deportation and they evoke the ECHR Article 8 Right to a Family Life, then you will struggle.
02:32And you know this. We've seen it before, haven't we?
02:34You will struggle, ultimately fail, to get them on a plane to deport them out of this country.
02:39You can't do any of that unless you elect the ECHR.
02:42We can. The Human Rights Act is what gives it effect in this country.
02:47It's our domestic courts that are the problem in this situation.
02:50It is them who are having some of these really, really creative interpretations of the law and binding the two.
02:57We're saying that isn't going to be the case anymore. We will not allow that.
03:01We will disapply the Human Rights Act. We'll make judges serve the law as it's meant to be served when it comes to immigration and deportation.
03:08That's entirely the right thing to do.
03:09But the interim due diligence from Strasbourg would be disapplied. It's the right before.