Married At First Sight (AU) Season 12 Episode 24
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00:00:00Previously...
00:00:02What happened?
00:00:04Clint was doing the dishes.
00:00:06My ideal relationship, it would be the other way around.
00:00:10Lauren's comments about Clint left the room speechless.
00:00:14With Clint, that alpha male, I just don't feel like it's there.
00:00:20And then...
00:00:22Some fun in the sun at the retreat...
00:00:26was exactly what most of the couples needed.
00:00:29Having that change of scenery was just perfect for us, I think,
00:00:32to just have a little reset.
00:00:35Do you think you're the man that she says she wants, though?
00:00:38But when the group questioned Lauren's feelings for Clint...
00:00:42You are so lucky.
00:00:43You actually have no idea what you're talking about.
00:00:45Don't, don't. Watch your phone.
00:00:47All hell broke loose at the final night drinks.
00:00:51No, no, no. No, no. Don't even go there.
00:00:54When Jamie didn't get the support she wanted from her friends.
00:00:58Chill out. Don't back her up.
00:01:01Sydney can hear you now.
00:01:02When it serves you well, when I'm yelling for you, then it's okay.
00:01:07But where is my defence?
00:01:13Tonight is giving justice for Jamie.
00:01:15Jamie is on a mission.
00:01:17It's all about seeing who's going to back me.
00:01:20Let's see who the F are my friends.
00:01:24How are you defending these?
00:01:26What do you mean? You're attacking me!
00:01:28Jamie, shut your mouth.
00:01:29Oh.
00:01:30Friendships implode.
00:01:32You are my friends!
00:01:33As Jamie lashes out.
00:01:36How are you going to defend Lauren?
00:01:38It was like mean girls.
00:01:39Who are you calling a mean girl?
00:01:42Will she get an apology from Karina and Ree?
00:01:45I've said a million times, apologize.
00:01:48Oh, my God.
00:02:03It's the day after the couple's retreat.
00:02:05And the returning brides and grooms are enjoying their post-retreat glow.
00:02:10I'm reading again.
00:02:11Oh, wow.
00:02:12Looking good.
00:02:13Wow.
00:02:14Feeling refreshed and ready for the fifth dinner party of the experiment.
00:02:20For Afina and Adrian, the couple's retreat sparked a remarkable turnaround for their marriage,
00:02:28helping them overcome past struggles and reconnect as husband and wife.
00:02:34I enjoyed firing.
00:02:35I don't know about everyone else, but I had a good time.
00:02:37I did.
00:02:38I had a good time.
00:02:39Adrian and I had a great time together.
00:02:41The retreat was exactly what we needed.
00:02:43I was leaving like a bit giddy.
00:02:45Yes, there was a lot of drama, but he and I, our relationship got stronger.
00:02:50So even though there was drama amongst the group, there wasn't between he and I.
00:02:53So I left feeling better.
00:02:56Down the hall, Jackie and Ryan encountered an early challenge during the couple's retreat.
00:03:03When Jackie revealed to the group that Ryan abstains from sexual activity before exercise,
00:03:10believing it helps preserve his testosterone levels for optimal physical performance.
00:03:16So can I ask a question?
00:03:17With Ryan, he like really cares about training all the time.
00:03:22He only wants to have sex if he's not training.
00:03:28What is your connection between testosterone and sex?
00:03:33And the gym?
00:03:34I feel ridiculous.
00:03:35I feel ridiculous talking about this, right?
00:03:37Say it!
00:03:38Because it is ridiculous.
00:03:39Can we go over chat?
00:03:41If she can't respect our privacy, she can't respect building a connection with discretion,
00:03:51then this is not going to last.
00:03:53Moving forward, sex life should be between the two people.
00:03:58And if it happens again, this relationship's over.
00:04:01I think with that night of the retreat, like emotions were running high.
00:04:08And yeah, like we really needed to establish a few boundaries when it comes to talking about our sex life.
00:04:15But yeah, it was addressed.
00:04:17And yeah, like I'm really happy with where we are.
00:04:20So basically the couple's retreat in regards to the testosterone thing, I thought that would paint him in a positive life because he's got great discipline.
00:04:30You know, he puts his gym before having sex with woman, which I think is an admirable quality for a man.
00:04:38But he took it as an offensive thing of like, I'm not pleasing my wife.
00:04:41And so he got upset about that in the moment and now he's turned around.
00:04:45And then Ryan and I was actually intimate.
00:04:48So yeah, we had sex this morning.
00:04:55Good, fantastic.
00:04:57And I say Jackie, you know, you can be like, oh, my plan worked all along.
00:05:02And now I feel like we're in a really good place.
00:05:05Cheers to a dinner party.
00:05:06I feel so happy for this dinner party.
00:05:09Like it's the first one I've actually looked forward to.
00:05:11Yeah.
00:05:12I mean, we've been through so much and we're still, um, we've come out of it.
00:05:17So I feel like there's nothing really that is going to really get to us anymore.
00:05:22The only thing that could get to us is ourselves.
00:05:24Your new nickname is Mr Central.
00:05:26Mr Central.
00:05:27Yeah, we're all smiles and looking to see what the future holds for us.
00:05:32It's nice to feel that.
00:05:34While Jackie and Ryan put their argument behind them, trouble is brewing elsewhere for Ryan.
00:05:44I mean, obviously the retreat was chaos.
00:05:48There's a lot of drama.
00:05:49There's a lot to unpack.
00:05:50But tonight at the dinner party, I do want to talk to Ryan because he called me classless.
00:05:56So you'd rather save your energy for the iron than the head .
00:06:01Where's your class?
00:06:02Where's your class?
00:06:03That's really classless, babe.
00:06:05Apparently after that, at the boys' night, Ryan asked TJ if he was okay with my behaviour and how I acted.
00:06:14I was so disappointed and angry at the fact that Ryan basically trying to get my husband to like question who I am and my behaviour.
00:06:21I don't like that.
00:06:22It feels dirty.
00:06:23It feels sly.
00:06:24Like, talk to me about it.
00:06:25It just feels bad.
00:06:26It feels like shit, honestly.
00:06:27But then I've heard that he apologised to TJ for calling me classless, but he hasn't apologised to me for calling me classless.
00:06:35And if he's got an issue with the way I acted, then he needs to talk to me about it.
00:06:40And if he wants to apologise, apologise to me.
00:06:42So yeah, I definitely want to have a conversation with Ryan tonight.
00:06:45But Beth isn't the only one walking into tonight with a score to settle.
00:06:54The turbulent retreat put friendships to the test.
00:06:58After the girls' night exposed underlying tensions.
00:07:02I'm over it.
00:07:04Lauren, don't be rude.
00:07:06Don't do that.
00:07:07Because we've all backed you and you're going to look really silly.
00:07:09The attitude is just unreal right now.
00:07:11She's such a snob.
00:07:12And the final night saw simmering tensions finally boil over.
00:07:17I'm only talking to people I'm interested in.
00:07:20Jamie, bring it down a bit.
00:07:21You're actually embarrassing yourself.
00:07:23Sit the **** down.
00:07:24Sit the **** down, both of you.
00:07:26Guys, just give them grace.
00:07:28Like, it is a lot.
00:07:29I'm listening to this and I'm getting sad listening.
00:07:32Karina, come on, man.
00:07:33Don't play the Switzerland card on me.
00:07:36The delivery could have been a little bit better.
00:07:39Thank you, Ray.
00:07:40Ree, come on.
00:07:42I've had your back.
00:07:43I've had everyone's back.
00:07:45Defend me, maybe.
00:07:46I'm so sick of being, like, the bad girl, this and that, because I speak up, I say things.
00:07:56When it serves you well, when I'm yelling for you, then it's okay.
00:08:01But where is my defence?
00:08:08I think, yeah, I'm still really upset.
00:08:11Like, really, like, really hurt.
00:08:13Like, for me, like, the people in this experiment, like, I considered, like, real friends.
00:08:20They majorly let me down.
00:08:22And it is so gut-wrenching.
00:08:27Um, look, after the retreat's been, like, it's been tough.
00:08:31It really has.
00:08:32Like, I feel just really, like, hurt and disappointed, I'd say.
00:08:36The thing is, I don't really care about Lauren and Clint.
00:08:40The reason I feel like down at the retreat is because my friends didn't step in and come into my support.
00:08:48And not only are they not coming to my defence, but they're also, like, speaking up for the person that is, like, you know, inflicting this onto me.
00:09:00It was, it was so embarrassing, because I'm looking at Lauren, who's quite smug, because she's watching now all my relationships implode onto me.
00:09:11At that point, I could have just broken everything in my path.
00:09:14Like, I'm, I felt so hurt and embarrassed that I became so angry.
00:09:20So, like, I stopped caring about what was going on with Lauren.
00:09:23And to me, I'm like, this is now a real issue, what's going on here, because these people, well, these are supposed to be my friends.
00:09:30Karina and Ri are supposed to be vocal in a group setting in defence of Lauren.
00:09:36Why would you even risk your relationship with me for Lauren?
00:09:40I'm very upset with Ri and Karina in particular.
00:09:45Ri and Karina 100% owe me apology.
00:09:48Like, this is the time you choose to show empathy, because you're upset how things happen with Lauren?
00:09:53Yeah.
00:09:54Yep.
00:09:55What?
00:10:00I'm, I'm actually not going to lie, like, I'm, I'm feeling super anxious.
00:10:04I haven't spoken to Jamie since that night, so I don't know how she's going to feel towards me.
00:10:10Jamie and I have gotten really close throughout the experiment.
00:10:13I definitely, yeah, navigate towards more of a friendship and a bond with Jamie.
00:10:19So, yeah, that's probably the saddest part after what happened at the couple's retreat.
00:10:25But I don't agree with her behaviour.
00:10:28Don't get me wrong.
00:10:30I don't think the words that Lauren used were the correct wording.
00:10:34But again, when you are getting aggression thrown at you, people standing up at you, like,
00:10:40can't even answer a question because so many questions are getting thrown your way.
00:10:44At the same time, obviously your blood does boil and you get defensive.
00:10:48And I don't like to see anyone pretty much pinned to the wall.
00:10:52Even Lauren.
00:10:54You know, I think I did the right thing.
00:10:57Hopefully Jamie understands my point of view.
00:11:01After the retreat, obviously Jamie, she was pretty standoffish towards me.
00:11:09I mean, hopefully she's had a bit of time to reflect on what happened.
00:11:12Yeah.
00:11:13I never actually, you know, supported Lauren's behaviour.
00:11:17Yeah, for sure.
00:11:18Obviously Jamie didn't feel supported on the last night of the retreat.
00:11:24And I tried to explain, like, how I was actually supporting her while also being there for Lauren.
00:11:31But I never stood up for Lauren's bad behaviour.
00:11:34I'd already spoken to Lauren twice about how I felt about her behaviour towards the group and her language.
00:11:41But also, too, like, you chased Lauren out because you're a nice person and you wanted to check how she was.
00:11:46Like, she's crying, so...
00:11:48It's like a catch-22.
00:11:49I'm just trying to be a good person.
00:11:51Yet, I feel like it hasn't served me.
00:11:54I feel like Jamie and I have had a good relationship this whole experiment.
00:11:58Yeah.
00:11:59It would really be a shame if something like that, you know, stopped our friendship from being.
00:12:07The girls, when you put them on the spot, you've got to find out which ones are going to sort of have your back.
00:12:14Tonight, like, it's all about seeing who's going to back me.
00:12:18Like, I was majorly let down at the retreat and I'm genuinely kind of keen to hear where everyone stands on it.
00:12:24I'm ready. You ready?
00:12:26Yeah.
00:12:27Yeah.
00:12:28Tonight is giving justice for Jamie.
00:12:30It's just giving.
00:12:31It's giving justice for Jamie.
00:12:33Let's see who the F are, my friends.
00:12:37Let's go, kid.
00:12:39Bring on tonight, I guess.
00:12:40Let's do this, huh?
00:12:41As the brides and grooms gear up and brace themselves to face the fallout of the couple's retreat, Lauren and Clint have made an unprecedented decision.
00:12:52All right, guys, what's going on?
00:12:58They proved exactly everything that we had said.
00:13:01Why would we go on and put ourselves in another social scene?
00:13:05We're going on off.
00:13:06We are not interested in spending another minute of our life in a room with them.
00:13:15In an experiment first, Lauren and Clint have decided to boycott tonight's dinner party and have one of their own.
00:13:28Absolutely no part of me wants to be at that dinner party.
00:13:33I'm sure Jamie will have her batteries fully charged, ready to start screaming and yelling from the moment she sits down.
00:13:43And I have absolutely no desire to ever be in a room with that little troll ever again.
00:14:06Today's probably the least I've been looking forward to a dinner party.
00:14:09Jamie is one of our good friends and now we've got like a bit of a misunderstanding situation.
00:14:15It just makes you automatically feel off.
00:14:19Off, yeah, off the good word.
00:14:21This is the first time there's ever been a divide.
00:14:24Well, do you know what?
00:14:26It didn't have to be a divide.
00:14:28If everyone stood up for what is right...
00:14:32Will everyone become friends again? Who knows?
00:14:35Who knows?
00:14:37Well, here we are, next dinner party, following the couple's retreat.
00:14:42And we're now over halfway in the experiment.
00:14:45This experiment is all about throwing real-world challenges at the couples.
00:14:50And going away with a group happens all the time for people.
00:14:54And it's how they manage the different personalities and if there are rivalries and friendships, support networks.
00:15:02All of those really get put to the test.
00:15:06Yes.
00:15:07So I wonder how that's impacted their relationships and where they're standing today.
00:15:11That's right.
00:15:12I guess we're about to find out.
00:15:14We should start running a menu for a dinner at home.
00:15:21Should we get some oysters?
00:15:23Definitely oysters.
00:15:24Maybe some prawns.
00:15:25Maybe we could do...
00:15:26Maybe we could do...
00:15:27We should do a helicopter flyby around the side so that we know we're having dinner.
00:15:31And like throw prawns at us.
00:15:33The group thinks that we think we're better than them.
00:15:37And we definitely do feel like we're better than some people in there, that's for sure.
00:15:41I think we've made the right decision.
00:15:43I know we have actually.
00:15:45There's just no point.
00:15:46Like, they're getting worked up about us.
00:15:49And we're not worked up about us.
00:15:51So Lauren and I at the moment are getting along great.
00:15:55I think the couple's retreat only helped us.
00:15:58We learnt more about each other again.
00:16:00Definitely some spark there for me.
00:16:03So yeah, I'm looking forward to tonight.
00:16:06Mmm.
00:16:07Yeah?
00:16:08Mmm.
00:16:09Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:12How are you in front of women?
00:16:14I don't know.
00:16:18We're normal.
00:16:19We're normal.
00:16:20We're the same as we are every other day.
00:16:22Um.
00:16:27We are good friends.
00:16:28You get along well.
00:16:30We can have dinner tonight and talk about e-comm strategies and, um, important, you know,
00:16:37good things in life.
00:16:39We don't have a spark, um, and that's it.
00:16:43What do you reckon they'll say that we're not there?
00:16:47I just, I honestly have no time for any of them.
00:16:50No.
00:16:51I'd rather eat dirt than go and sit and have dinner with Jamie.
00:16:54Yeah.
00:16:55Maybe we can add that to our menu.
00:16:58Mmm.
00:16:59Elliot and Veronica.
00:17:00Nice.
00:17:01Smooth, happy entrance.
00:17:02Yeah.
00:17:03Relaxed.
00:17:04Okay.
00:17:05My relationship with Elliot, we're in a really good place.
00:17:06Oh, this one.
00:17:07Zero.
00:17:08Yeah.
00:17:09While we were at the retreat, it felt like we were really open and really natural.
00:17:10We had great chats.
00:17:11Getting quick.
00:17:12I'm like, that's really beautiful.
00:17:13It's so peaceful in here.
00:17:15Here they are.
00:17:16Here they are.
00:17:17Rhea and Jeff.
00:17:18Welcome to the party.
00:17:19Hi guys.
00:17:20These two are looking great together.
00:17:21Yeah.
00:17:22Very comfortable.
00:17:23How are you?
00:17:24Good.
00:17:25Uh, we'll grab a drink quickly.
00:17:26Me and Rhea, we're in a really good place.
00:17:27Oh, this one.
00:17:28Yeah.
00:17:29While we were at the retreat, it felt like we were really open and really natural.
00:17:31What?
00:17:32What?
00:17:33Here they are.
00:17:34Rhea and Jeff.
00:17:35Hi.
00:17:36Welcome to the party.
00:17:37Hi, guys.
00:17:38These two are looking great together.
00:17:39Yeah.
00:17:40Very comfortable.
00:17:41How are you?
00:17:42Good.
00:17:43Uh, we'll grab a drink quickly.
00:17:44Me and Rhea are great.
00:17:45Like, our relationship is unbelievable.
00:17:47But...
00:17:48Yeah.
00:17:49Rhea's feeling pretty down about the last few days.
00:17:51It's unfortunate because, like, an external factor of what happened at the retreat puts a
00:17:56bit of a strain on our relationship.
00:17:58She knows I've got her back and I'm here to support her no matter what.
00:18:01And, uh, hopefully after tonight, she feels better.
00:18:04And, um, if not, then we know where we stand with a few people here.
00:18:08So, uh...
00:18:10How are you guys?
00:18:11We're great.
00:18:13You know, obviously, last night was a lot.
00:18:16Honestly, I feel like this whole situation has been blown so far out of proportion.
00:18:21Like, I feel like even though I have supported Lauren through her tears and anxiety,
00:18:27I've never been against the rest of the group.
00:18:29And that's why I feel really misunderstood.
00:18:31Because I've tried to explain that multiple times.
00:18:33Yeah.
00:18:34It's like when someone's crying, you go and make them feel better.
00:18:35Yeah.
00:18:36But it doesn't mean that I am behind Lauren saying,
00:18:39Jamie, I don't validate you.
00:18:41Yeah.
00:18:42Right, so there's clearly been a falling out.
00:18:44Yeah.
00:18:45Between some of the women and Jamie.
00:18:46Yeah.
00:18:47About something that's occurred at this couples retreat.
00:18:49Mm.
00:18:50I feel like there's a real divide and that there shouldn't be such a divide.
00:18:53I agree with you on that.
00:18:54Like, I don't think anyone should just be screamed at by everybody.
00:18:56Like, that just makes no sense.
00:18:58Yeah.
00:18:59The group dynamic at the moment is very heavy on mine and Jeff's relationship.
00:19:03I feel like I can't be my authentic, happy, bubbly self
00:19:07because I feel like I'm trying to keep up with what's going on,
00:19:10trying to figure it out.
00:19:11And Jeff has done everything, everything to support me right now
00:19:15and I'm lucky I have him.
00:19:18You see it all unfold at these couples retreats.
00:19:21And this is where a lot of the issues bubble to the surface, don't they?
00:19:24Yeah.
00:19:25Because they're outside of the structure of the experiment
00:19:27and things just start to flow.
00:19:29They can really vent.
00:19:30Mm-hm.
00:19:31Each other.
00:19:32Mm-hm.
00:19:33Mm-hm.
00:19:34Hey.
00:19:35Hi.
00:19:36Hi.
00:19:37Hi.
00:19:38Hi.
00:19:39Hi.
00:19:40Hi.
00:19:41Happy couple.
00:19:42You?
00:19:43Yeah.
00:19:44How are you?
00:19:45Good to see you.
00:19:46Hi, Bethy.
00:19:47Yeah, I always feel good walking in with TJ.
00:19:48We've got such a good relationship.
00:19:49I just feel so confident with him.
00:19:50I know he has my back.
00:19:52So tonight, I want an apology from Ryan.
00:19:56Cause at the retreat, Ryan called me classless.
00:19:59I didn't think it was okay to apologise to my husband
00:20:03and not apologising to me.
00:20:05I don't like that.
00:20:06It just feels dirty.
00:20:07First dinner party where we're actually excited to go in.
00:20:10Ha ha.
00:20:11Ha ha.
00:20:12Ha ha.
00:20:13Ha ha.
00:20:14You ready?
00:20:15Ha ha ha.
00:20:16Ha ha ha.
00:20:17Ha ha ha.
00:20:18Ha ha ha.
00:20:19Ha ha ha.
00:20:24Hey.
00:20:25Hey.
00:20:27Ryan and Jackie.
00:20:28Ha ha.
00:20:29They look like they've had a good time at the couples retreat.
00:20:33smiles I love the red champagne madam yes please Ryan and I had a really good
00:20:41place and probably the best place we've been in so far and I would say in terms
00:20:49of the challenges we've overcome we're the strongest couple fine right someone
00:20:54talk to you about something please from what I heard you apologize to TJ at the
00:21:02retreat for calling me pluses I don't feel like you should apologize to me
00:21:07though so I just want to get the story yeah so sitting down and saying like oh
00:21:11you'd rather go to the gym then then F your wife you know it's that type of
00:21:15thing I was like I was pretty shocked to hear it at the top but then hearing that
00:21:18you went to my husband to ask him is he okay with my behavior I just want to ask
00:21:24him as well like because he wasn't there how he felt about the whole thing yeah
00:21:28I do find it weird that you'd ask him about the way I act I just didn't like
00:21:33that because I'm not a classist woman I do have a mouth and I know I swear a lot
00:21:38but I didn't like that at all but the thing is it was still someone else's sex
00:21:43life and I wouldn't I wouldn't dare sit down and say those those type of things
00:21:46you know I don't think Jackie would either that's why she kind of was like hey
00:21:48because like sex is such a it's very touchy subject for me so I was trying to
00:21:59get some like some understanding of he was in that spot how would he react and um you
00:22:07know well you know what yes I apologize for calling you classless good because
00:22:18that's what I wanted because I just felt weird that I felt you'd apologize to my
00:22:21husband for what you call me but not me realize the words I use were probably
00:22:24quite vulva and that's why I apologize didn't offend you Beth and I exchanged
00:22:28apologies mine for the classless remark and hers for using that really filthy
00:22:32language so yes you know like I think it's kind of put a pin in it for now
00:22:36with Beth I forgive you totally by the way it's like I'm right I'm gonna be honest
00:22:47when Jackie speaks it's like goes in one ear out the other okay I feel like my
00:22:55glass I got what I wanted and I got off the couch super quick thank you that's all
00:23:00needed an apology sealer dummy I coming up
00:23:07dinner is served an experiment first oh no way they haven't showed up leaves the
00:23:14whole group reeling what the we don't need them there's a lot of unfinished
00:23:19business here and without them here it's gonna be very difficult for any kind of
00:23:22resolution and later Jamie it was like mean girls don't you call me a mean girl
00:23:29so I won't stand for it as tensions rise
00:23:32stop stop Karina I'll shut your mouth oh
00:23:36friendships hang in the balance
00:23:39that's so good I love that babe I love it
00:23:55Athena and Hadrian a lot of disconnectedness in the past few weeks from these two yeah so it is
00:24:05actually nice to said to see them walk in hand in hand and smiling what are you
00:24:10having I'm gonna go red no you have picked him out me and Athena good you know this is we had a
00:24:17great state stage right now in our relationship and um if not the best
00:24:21since we've been here love being a great partner you're feeling alright ah I felt
00:24:29better but I'm just like trying to be like positive you know I'm probably a
00:24:36little bit uncomfortable to be in the same like presence as Jamie because her
00:24:42fight style is very intense don't worry I got you back mmm be yourself say what you need to say
00:24:49don't be scared I don't really have that much to say unless like I just hope it can just go back to
00:24:53normal I don't think it will to me it's just it's sad to see that it's gotten to this point so
00:25:01hopefully tonight Jamie really is open to hearing me out because if not I think that would be super
00:25:09disheartening Karina and Paul Karina seemed to have a very funny scene look on her face how are you
00:25:34going but they did walk in strong with one another what's it all get I'll get you a drink of course
00:25:39where's everyone sitting how are you feeling I'm nervous I just feel uneasy saying you know like I feel
00:25:49thank you I feel yeah be uneasy about everything and and like a bit of social anxiety that's how
00:25:55one feels yeah I know exactly what you mean I feel really I didn't want because obviously like it's just
00:26:01like one big misunderstanding or miscommunication like one big kerfuffle yeah because you like we
00:26:08were close for Jamie Jamie makes valid points yeah it's just the way that she yeah projects yeah is
00:26:14offensive you literally were cornering a girl that makes me so sad because I generally don't like to be
00:26:21a part of that kind of stuff oh right Jamie's communication style seems to be an issue here
00:26:28it's not about the content but the way she delivered the information that is making these women uncomfortable
00:26:34because I'm like the loud one and says it with their chest like I don't deserve an apology because I'm
00:26:40I'm raising my voice or click can swear at me because I'm my my voice is elevated compared to other people
00:26:47it's hard because you and I are super empathetic yes and also we're just like supporting Lauren it's
00:26:52like we're actually standing up for some of the shit that she did yeah like the name calling and
00:26:56stuff it's like come on Lauren yeah like I don't agree with I don't either digging yourself a hole there
00:27:01sounds like something has happened between Jamie and Lauren and you're seeing how affected these
00:27:07women are by the whole entire thing yeah it's a real tricky situation and I think we're just like
00:27:14stuck in the middle because I want to be friends with everyone I'm hoping tonight I just want clarity
00:27:20of where I stand with people I want to get my point across like so there's no confusion and people can
00:27:27understand why I feel let down and it gives an opportunity for people in a group setting to stand up and go
00:27:36no more I owe you an apology I don't know I just thought even mine and Jamie's friendship I just I
00:27:47thought it was a bit stronger than that you know what I mean yes let's be honest Jamie's always been
00:27:53up until this point a key member of the group that keeps the peace that gives out advice so for her now
00:28:01to be in a way against the group or separated from that is something very different oh David Jamie
00:28:29welcome they look like they're a little bit on on guard this has never happened before no they're the
00:28:39life of the party usually look at that I'm sweating I love you in your life hello done just in orange
00:28:49you don't just get to smooze me over and I hate when people think that they can do that just be nice
00:29:15and everything for the sake of them not getting annihilated at a table no no no I need my sorry are
00:29:22you feeling okay I'll say this is like it's not a good feeling yeah of course I'm still like her upset
00:29:29I haven't had anyone reach out to me okay my friends didn't support me at the retreat Karina yeah yeah
00:29:38especially especially more expectation on them too Karina Marie you know I'm upset you should have
00:29:47like cornered me at that cocktail table when I'm getting a drink you should be like can we please
00:29:53talk after unless they are saving something miraculous for the dinner party I don't know
00:29:59but like very surprising behavior well I'm just being so rude yeah and just and pretty much shit
00:30:07on everything we're doing that's the only reason I'm in this argument I'm defending other people you
00:30:11know her calling me a troll is one thing her husband telling me to shut up like seven times is a whole
00:30:16other thing and no one said nothing yeah yeah yeah by the sounds of it Jamie was on the receiving end of
00:30:23inappropriate and unacceptable behavior she feels she deserves yeah to be checked up on because she
00:30:32has been so proactive in in being present and trying to have people's backs when when they're having
00:30:38troubles yeah it's a really weird atmosphere tonight Jamie's vibe is definitely standoffish so I think she's
00:30:49still upset with me but I am scared to voice my opinion and and speak up to Jamie because she is loud
00:30:58and she will shut me down I'm gonna get eaten that I already know we need some holy water it's the fact
00:31:08that people even speak up in defense of her baffles me last time I checked she couldn't be saying hello to
00:31:13any of the girls the whole trip she doesn't hang out with them she doesn't defend them so why are they
00:31:16writing for Lauren it'll be very interesting to see Lauren and Clint tonight because they have a lot
00:31:23to answer to alone can come in I don't know I was I'm still speculating last one two three four six
00:31:32seven yeah they're the last they're the last couple yeah surely do you think I think they don't come like
00:31:38that's gonna be the worst yeah I just hope that we can all leave as friends yeah have some sort of
00:31:43resolution yeah that's it I really want to resolve this but I guess it depends on how Lauren comes in
00:31:50tonight because I feel like she needs to take accountability for her actions at the retreat
00:31:56thanks mate appreciate it cheers um I wonder how tonight's gonna go all this conflict now amongst
00:32:09the group has come because because I hope Ray Karina and Jamie can reconcile things like I think there's
00:32:19gonna be some stern words and I hope Lauren doesn't blow things out of proportion if everyone falls
00:32:25apart will you let Lauren and Clint win oh no why they haven't showed up oh no the merit is served oh
00:32:38thank God well we're missing someone no why that's dinner called and of course there's no sign of Lauren
00:32:48and Clint wait up we're waiting on two more who gives a where Lauren and Clint are tonight I could not care
00:32:59less no it's okay we can go and we don't need them we don't need them pop on your broom and fly back to
00:33:06Brisbane see ya go the first of the cocktail party this is the most peaceful party ever
00:33:13um she's uh peace dinner is served oh we're missing someone dinner is served oh they're not here
00:33:30Lauren and Clint are missing tonight and I'm really sad to see that they're not here because they need to
00:33:37take accountability and tonight's purely about trying to get along again with everyone would
00:33:43we've even noticed I don't say hello to anyone anyway I have no idea what Lauren is you know I've
00:33:47really put myself on the line there supporting Lauren even through the petty comments through
00:33:52her not trying in the experiment but I'm here anxiety filled so I'm questioning mine and Lauren's
00:34:00friendship what a shame what a shame what a shame who gives a where Lauren and Clint are tonight
00:34:06hopefully on a slow boat to China just for salt no thank you salty like Jamie when
00:34:13she finds out we're not there to yell at group is getting smaller it sure is they really can notice
00:34:18Lauren and Clint not being a part of this dinner parties they decided not to face the music a lot
00:34:25of unfinished business here and without them here it's going to be very difficult for any kind of
00:34:29resolution tonight but it is going to dictate the entire conversation yeah because friendships have
00:34:33been ruined I'm so relieved if I had to look at her face for any longer tonight I'm 100% expecting an
00:34:42apology I'm 100% expecting accountability the worst case scenario is if anyone doubles down if anyone
00:34:48defends their behavior then that's the end of the friendship theories on the missing couple Lauren and Clint I
00:34:55couldn't give a **** it's just the easy option well where's your mate who's up where's your mate who's mate my mate your mate all your mates well
00:35:08probably she was your mate at retreat how is she no one said anything oh we're straight into it so she's on the
00:35:15front foot straight away absolutely how is she my mate I'm saying where's your mate you two were defending
00:35:20her where's your mate we weren't defending her we're friends with everyone did I miss the part when you
00:35:26came into my defense I was on smoke break then did I miss her I must have clocked off for the day
00:35:33I missed her can I just talk on how I fell and why I was a terrible night for me I am a tough bitch I am I'm
00:35:44strong and I'll challenge anyone I don't care but my heart is big and I'm super goddamn sensitive the one
00:35:51thing that's been very clear to me since day dot that should be clear to all use is I rally for my friends I rally for
00:35:56my partner I rally for my friends loyalty is the backbone of all my relationships that girls night I was
00:36:03in defense of you I'm like a mother bear protecting her cubs everyone was disrespected so I called out
00:36:10Lauren's behavior I heard she called me a troll I heard she had been talking shit I'm addressing
00:36:15Lauren who has been nothing short of rude and I've got her husband telling me to shut the up multiple
00:36:20times in that time considering again I'm completely in the right once again I met with rudeness there was
00:36:27no sense of apology there was no sorting out everyone was silent do you know what that did to me
00:36:32that broke me I've never felt pain like that in a really long time because when I'm sitting there and
00:36:39I've got two people that I'm considered good friends backing Lauren when Lauren's like who backed Lauren when the
00:36:45whole attack comment was made apparently I was interrogating her pack of hyenas I heard yeah I'm getting
00:36:51sworn at by men reprimanded and I don't deserve an apology because my noise is too loud I'm acting like an animal I was
00:36:57owning an argument because she slated the whole house she didn't that babe she didn't that you're joking
00:37:04she did what the heck are you joking she did what first of all I'm not taking anyone's sides just because I listen
00:37:13babe you have a strong voice it came across like it was aggression it was a lot
00:37:20oh my gosh this is just stupidity are you joking what are you talking about
00:37:27so why are you upset with me if you don't understand don't talk to me Karina just sit there
00:37:32do yourself a favor don't talk be a hot plant imagine coming still in defense of someone who
00:37:44can't even be rocking up to a dinner party everyone was asking the questions and she walked off so what
00:37:51would you do in a group setting welcome to married at first sight when we ask questions babe it's how
00:37:57you ask the questions stop painting this narrative that we were coming in guns lazy she was being
00:38:04ambushed and I'm trying to say she was being ambushed how are you going to defend Lauren agree with the
00:38:10behavior it was like mean girl who are you calling a mean girl it was bad girl don't you call me a mean
00:38:20don't you call me a mean girls I won't stand for it I'm pissed off now
00:38:50I'm pissed off such a insult to label anyone as mean girls such an insult I'd say Lauren would
00:39:00come the closest to it so I won't be put in that category Karina you just used the word mean girls
00:39:07who are you referring to right now just me no okay so everyone there but it's still everyone there
00:39:16because I got to that point the questions that were getting asked to her what's not the nicest way of
00:39:22saying it you girls were asking the exact same question on repetition because you went on the
00:39:28girls night and you asked the questions that need to be asked and then she didn't like it if you were
00:39:32yourself in the situation of a girl one girl walking out of that room you would say the rest of the
00:39:38group were mean girls asking questions that weren't me and girls because if I was in that situation I
00:39:43would feel the same way exactly how I am now I'm being defensive on myself you're feeding into this
00:39:49narrative and you are validating delusion I don't validate what she said Jamie I can't fight with
00:39:56someone who has no logic oh is this girl for real what is actually going on I absolutely do not agree
00:40:08with what Lauren said to the girls but how Jamie has gone about this whole situation absolutely has
00:40:15just blindsided me are you saying Karina has no logic this conversation makes no sense wow and you say
00:40:21you're my friend that's really nice because you're speaking stupidity Karina this makes no sense
00:40:27I believe him is valid as much as you think it is no no right now your feelings are bullshit to me so my feelings not valid you sat down you called me a mean girl and I did
00:40:40I didn't call you a mean girl Afina this is like honestly I'm losing brain cells I can't win with those
00:40:47girls like it's very evident around that dinner table that Afina and Jamie I just add it with me I
00:40:53know what's in Karina's drink I didn't expect this all to blow up the way it has and I can't even voice
00:40:59my opinion because I constantly get shut down or undermine you know my intentions you know the type of
00:41:06human that I am I thought I did I am an empath when I see that the groups divided I feel like Switzerland
00:41:13you're not Switzerland having both sides that means you'd be speaking up for Lauren and I incorrect you
00:41:18didn't do that oh my god how do you guys not even see it Jamie's very good at shutting people down and
00:41:26I think it's totally unfair if you were sorry you wouldn't come here tell me I'm a mean girl that is
00:41:33doubling down I think she definitely expects an apology but she's not going to get one I'm going
00:41:40to stand up for myself and voice my opinion and just purely say that that I don't agree with how
00:41:46she was towards Lauren I thought coming into tonight do you swallow your pride and say look I really am
00:41:52sorry that I dropped the ball I didn't have you back enough the simple thing for you to do because
00:41:56Jamie's been there since the start for you I just she's known you for so long and it's just like your
00:42:01relationship is so much more solid I don't understand I don't want to be in this situation
00:42:05with Jamie whatsoever I came in tonight thinking surely this woman is going to be like you know I
00:42:12up you've doubled down you haven't apologized so it's very clear where we stand you can apologize
00:42:17I'm here to the end she ain't she's gone you backed a losing force you're clearly not understanding
00:42:24where I've come from so sorry we don't agree on that I don't care there's no apology anytime she
00:42:32speaks she gets shut down yeah Jamie's opinion is the only one that counts and Karina of course is
00:42:38entitled to her opinion and I think has some really valid points yeah she's calling out behavior that
00:42:42really should not be permissible let's just drop it we know where we stand okay that's it let's see it
00:42:48simple as that that's what we wanted out of this conversation is to find out who is with us and who
00:42:52isn't that's it Wow so Dave's really driving this black and white binary way we want to know who's
00:42:59with us who's against us you're still doubling down no apology okay cool thank you my opinion on the way
00:43:06Jamie handles conflict is she's very vocal and intense I mean if that was me I wouldn't have handled it
00:43:14like that now it's uncomfortable I honestly feel isolated right now I honestly and it's not nice
00:43:21I feel bad for Karina I don't think Jamie really wanted to hear what Karina has to say so that was
00:43:27disappointing but do you know silly it sounds that you're still backing this person I'm not backing
00:43:31anyone backing myself because I don't want to be upset with Jamie or in a bad riffraff with Jamie
00:43:37I've said like a million times I apologize sorry I cannot express as well as you and some other
00:43:44girls in the room that's just who I am okay how are you defending me Karina I'll shut your mouth oh
00:43:56what do you reckon's going on over there no I'd say that there's a lot of yelling going on the way you're
00:44:04speaking to me is how you spoke to Lauren how is anyone coming to her defense I mean if what
00:44:10we're seeing here tonight in terms of Jamie's communication style is anything like she was at
00:44:16the retreat she's got a major issue here yeah it's so aggressive it's so aggressive yeah you are my
00:44:23friends and now I have a voice I don't give a if you've got a voice okay so then I'm right
00:44:32so I will sit back and I will watch the Jamie's show turn in babe because it's a good show
00:44:39how are you defending this
00:44:51how are you defending this
00:44:51what do you mean you're attacking me
00:44:53no don't tell me to stop put that hand down
00:44:57you have a voice and now I have a voice
00:45:00I don't give a f*** you've got a voice
00:45:02okay so then I won't talk
00:45:03there you go
00:45:04I will sit back and I will watch the Jamie's show
00:45:08turn in babe cause it's a f***ing good show
00:45:11I'm trying to think that's an ambulance over to the dinner party
00:45:17I got the casualties already
00:45:20I would think so yeah
00:45:23it's so funny
00:45:29Baramundi's good
00:45:33you were my friends
00:45:37I was there for you
00:45:39sorry can I just have a second to say one thing
00:45:43Jamie you were incredibly aggressive in your way of communicating
00:45:48at the retreat
00:45:49it's unnecessary
00:45:51oh just shut up
00:45:53Veronica
00:45:53shut up
00:45:54shush
00:45:54Jamie
00:45:55this is the behaviour
00:45:57that we don't want to tolerate
00:45:58excuse me
00:45:59I was not doing that
00:46:00this is the behaviour
00:46:01shut your mouth
00:46:01you shut your mouth
00:46:02you shut your mouth
00:46:03Veronica
00:46:04Veronica
00:46:05Veronica
00:46:06Veronica
00:46:06Veronica
00:46:07is another f***ing idiot
00:46:12oh she's a classic
00:46:14she's a classic
00:46:15so every day at retreat
00:46:17we're hanging out
00:46:18you love me
00:46:19we're besties
00:46:20and then you want to sit down
00:46:22pipe up for Lauren
00:46:23you slag your husband off
00:46:25to anyone that f***ing
00:46:26and that is why you protect Lauren
00:46:28I do not protect Lauren
00:46:30she's protecting her
00:46:32why?
00:46:33because she doesn't want Lauren to rat out what she's
00:46:36like whatever s***
00:46:37V's talked about Elliot
00:46:39we all know everything you said about Elliot
00:46:41and why you protect Lauren
00:46:42I don't know it
00:46:45Veronica
00:46:46defending Lauren to Jamie
00:46:48and adding fuel to the flames
00:46:50that took me by surprise
00:46:51like why is my wife
00:46:54defending my ex-wife
00:46:55like that's just
00:46:56it's weird to me
00:46:58you have obviously
00:46:59gone to Lauren
00:47:00and spoken s*** about Elliot
00:47:02and
00:47:03I think that's what infuriates me
00:47:05because that is the only logical reason
00:47:07you defend Lauren
00:47:09I've not done that
00:47:10I just kind of want to hear like
00:47:13your side fully
00:47:15okay
00:47:17when did I go to her?
00:47:20I just don't think it's going to last long
00:47:21because I don't know
00:47:22how long Elliot can keep up
00:47:23keep up the facade
00:47:24hang on hang on hang on
00:47:26have you spoken to her about your relationship with Elliot?
00:47:30Elliot is a narcissist
00:47:31answer the f***ing question
00:47:34make sure you're talking facts babe
00:47:36yeah we've had a conversation
00:47:39Veronica admitted it
00:47:43she did go to Lauren
00:47:45and had a conversation
00:47:46about me
00:47:47I had no idea
00:47:49she did that
00:47:50that's like going to someone's ex
00:47:52we were in a bad place
00:47:55and I needed advice
00:47:56from the only other person
00:47:57who knew you
00:47:58but you're going to the person
00:48:00that only says negative things about me
00:48:03well she didn't
00:48:04Elliot is a narcissist
00:48:06and I feel so sorry for you
00:48:08I feel like you can do
00:48:09a million times better
00:48:10he's just so full of s***
00:48:12she was very much playing devil's advocate
00:48:14in your defence
00:48:15I find that hard to believe
00:48:17personally
00:48:17I really find that hard to believe
00:48:19thanks so much Jamie
00:48:23welcome
00:48:23only your feelings are valid
00:48:24no one else's
00:48:25the rest of us can go s*** ourselves
00:48:27do it
00:48:28I don't know what she said
00:48:31she tried to play it off as
00:48:34oh she had good things to say about you
00:48:36like I believe that
00:48:37looking at the outcome to that
00:48:40it doesn't sound like
00:48:41Lauren gave actionable advice
00:48:43on how to turn things around for us
00:48:45so
00:48:45what do you stand to gain from that
00:48:48going to someone that only has
00:48:50negative things to say about your partner
00:48:52is going to be poisonous to
00:48:54to the relationship
00:48:55100%
00:48:56going to someone that
00:48:58is actively disparaging me
00:48:59how can I have your back
00:49:01that's not having my back
00:49:02first of all
00:49:03to say that I'm going
00:49:05actively
00:49:06repeatedly
00:49:06is incorrect
00:49:07I went to her one time
00:49:09that's semantics
00:49:11it's not semantics actually
00:49:13it's fact
00:49:14I went to her one time
00:49:16what's being revealed here
00:49:18is that
00:49:19he feels
00:49:20persecuted by both women
00:49:22there's a pivotal time for this couple
00:49:24because
00:49:24Elliot needs
00:49:26Veronica to have his back
00:49:28and if Veronica
00:49:29is listening to Lauren
00:49:30how do they move forward
00:49:32well in this experiment
00:49:33would you think it's a good idea
00:49:35for me to one time
00:49:37go to your ex
00:49:38when we're having a bad time
00:49:40she's the only person who knew you
00:49:41I feel kind of betrayed
00:49:44it just seems like
00:49:46the loyalty side of things
00:49:47is missing
00:49:48it makes me question
00:49:50what her motivations are
00:49:51if she put as much effort
00:49:53into like
00:49:54making it work
00:49:55than she did
00:49:56sabotaging it
00:49:57that would be a good start
00:49:59should we go around the circle guys
00:50:07is there something you want to say
00:50:11what do you want to say
00:50:12Adrian
00:50:13Adrian and I are
00:50:14tell us how good you're going
00:50:15let's go
00:50:16come on
00:50:17I'm going to order
00:50:20see you later
00:50:20sit down
00:50:23we know you're in love
00:50:25we know you're in love
00:50:26come on
00:50:27I want to hear about you two
00:50:29I'll be honest
00:50:30for the intruders
00:50:32that haven't been here
00:50:33you guys walked in
00:50:34and you came in
00:50:35on the worst time for us two
00:50:37we weren't in a great place
00:50:38but I'll be very
00:50:40very very honest
00:50:41when I wrote stay
00:50:42I actually regretted it so much
00:50:44and I
00:50:45left that commitment ceremony
00:50:47with so much regret
00:50:48but
00:50:49it was probably like
00:50:52the last day of the retreat
00:50:53I was like
00:50:54I'm so happy
00:50:55I chose to stay
00:50:56wow
00:50:57and I know we all left
00:50:58feeling emotionally exhausted
00:50:59and there was so much turmoil
00:51:01but
00:51:01we are in a really great place
00:51:03right now
00:51:03Adrian
00:51:04you got anything to say brother
00:51:05no
00:51:06what she said
00:51:07um
00:51:07now
00:51:10we're both doing the same way
00:51:11and now we're good
00:51:11you know
00:51:12you can make decisions
00:51:13in the heat of the moment
00:51:14and you can regret them
00:51:15and
00:51:15you know
00:51:16we both went to right leave
00:51:17that day
00:51:18but for whatever reason
00:51:19we both stayed
00:51:19and
00:51:20thank god we did
00:51:22Fiona's the strongest
00:51:23it gets right now
00:51:23in our relationship
00:51:24if not the strongest
00:51:25since we've been
00:51:26from the start
00:51:27we're just having fun
00:51:28enjoying towards company
00:51:29and that's the most important thing
00:51:30it was probably within 24 hours
00:51:32of him moving back in
00:51:33that we kind of
00:51:34connected straight away
00:51:36and I didn't think we would
00:51:38connect straight away
00:51:40but we did
00:51:41we
00:51:43we connected
00:51:45and Sid
00:51:48Benny's been holding his testosterone
00:51:49the testosterone
00:51:58show
00:51:58yeah
00:52:00that seems to be going around
00:52:01it's hilarious
00:52:02I get it
00:52:03Adrian's actually getting sick
00:52:08of how much of a leech I am
00:52:09I think this is the happiest
00:52:10I've seen
00:52:11Afina and Adrian
00:52:13this is progress
00:52:14it's actually nice
00:52:15to see them happy and sweet
00:52:17Adrian actually loves
00:52:18when I'm all over it
00:52:19which is not the case
00:52:20for everyone
00:52:21like we're going for walks
00:52:23and he's like
00:52:23get off me
00:52:24I'm like I can't help myself
00:52:25and I'm like all over it
00:52:26I feel really overwhelmed
00:52:28and I've got tears in my eyes
00:52:30Jamie and Karina
00:52:31the situation there
00:52:32was pretty full on
00:52:33but I think that
00:52:35situation has really
00:52:36been blown up
00:52:37into something
00:52:38that it's not
00:52:39and I'm really sad
00:52:40because these girls
00:52:41are my friends
00:52:43and I don't know
00:52:44how they come back
00:52:45from this
00:52:45yeah I'm pretty exhausted
00:52:47from the whole situation
00:52:48well done guys
00:52:50so proud of you guys
00:52:51so proud of you
00:52:53where is Rui tonight
00:52:55I mean
00:52:55where's my apology
00:52:57where's my sorry
00:52:58Jamie
00:52:59Karina made it very clear
00:53:01that there is no friendship
00:53:02I can't have friends
00:53:04that don't take accountability
00:53:05for when they've done
00:53:06something wrong
00:53:07show some remorse
00:53:08show you care
00:53:09like please
00:53:10Rui
00:53:11I know you didn't
00:53:14come from a bad place
00:53:15but you really let me down
00:53:17at the retreat
00:53:17you could have said
00:53:19anything
00:53:19anything
00:53:20I have defended you
00:53:21so many times
00:53:22this was blatant
00:53:24black and white
00:53:24they were in the wrong
00:53:26I was in the right
00:53:27I would have
00:53:27anything
00:53:28for you to stand up
00:53:29in that moment
00:53:30you told me
00:53:31privately
00:53:31so many times
00:53:32you're gonna back me
00:53:33you're gonna back me
00:53:34you're gonna back me
00:53:35and then he decided
00:53:36to speak up
00:53:37to support
00:53:38Lauren
00:53:38I expect so much
00:53:40more from you
00:53:40I've always backed you
00:53:42can I just say one thing
00:53:43I am sorry
00:53:45in that moment
00:53:46in that moment
00:53:47I didn't stand up
00:53:48for you
00:53:48but
00:53:49I actually
00:53:50never
00:53:51validated
00:53:53Lauren's
00:53:53behaviour ever
00:53:55I said multiple times
00:53:56the night
00:53:57of the girls night
00:53:58I'm like
00:53:58I can see how these
00:53:59girls are offended
00:54:00by what you have said
00:54:01if you told me
00:54:02that you did not care
00:54:03about my opinion
00:54:04or anything
00:54:05I would be gutted
00:54:06it's really hurtful
00:54:07I love this
00:54:09but for a group setting
00:54:11when I needed you
00:54:12I was drowning
00:54:13she looked
00:54:14and she saw
00:54:15everyone
00:54:16completely let me down
00:54:18do you know
00:54:18how that felt
00:54:19that killed me
00:54:20that killed me
00:54:22I can't tell you
00:54:24I can't tell you
00:54:24how hard I
00:54:25cried after that
00:54:26I am sorry
00:54:29that I made you
00:54:30feel like that
00:54:30I truly am
00:54:32I am apologetic
00:54:33I should have said
00:54:35something right
00:54:36then and there
00:54:37and I
00:54:38I do sometimes
00:54:40take a little bit
00:54:41to process
00:54:41whether
00:54:42like I realised later
00:54:44okay I should have
00:54:45said something
00:54:45and I should have
00:54:45said something then
00:54:46but like I just
00:54:47want you to know
00:54:48I've never had
00:54:49Laurence back
00:54:50the entire time
00:54:52that has just
00:54:52not been the case
00:54:53but
00:54:54I'm really sorry
00:54:56I hurt you
00:54:56in that moment
00:54:57when I didn't stand up
00:54:58bingo
00:55:00thank you
00:55:00that's all I needed
00:55:02I came in
00:55:04hoping that you
00:55:05would come like this
00:55:06I know you're
00:55:07a good person
00:55:08that obviously hurt me
00:55:10because I expected more
00:55:10because I'm good
00:55:12friends with you
00:55:12I've never seen
00:55:14the choices
00:55:15Reen made
00:55:16but I appreciate
00:55:17that she
00:55:18is owning
00:55:19she made a mistake
00:55:20and she
00:55:21has taken
00:55:22accountability for it
00:55:23how you came in
00:55:24tonight
00:55:25was going to really
00:55:26show me like
00:55:26what the hell's
00:55:27going on here
00:55:27because like I said
00:55:28I'm looking at you
00:55:28and Karina
00:55:29both like genuine
00:55:30friends
00:55:31but at the same time
00:55:32you're not meeting
00:55:32me with this stupidity
00:55:34that's why I put you
00:55:35in very different
00:55:36categories
00:55:37like I really think
00:55:38we should put this
00:55:39to bed
00:55:40but like I genuinely
00:55:40really love you
00:55:41you're not going to
00:55:42tell me to put it
00:55:42to bed though
00:55:43because this is my
00:55:44feelings
00:55:44I'm not even
00:55:45given a sincere
00:55:46apology
00:55:46Ri hasn't doubled
00:55:48down
00:55:48Ri hasn't called
00:55:49me names
00:55:49Ri's come in
00:55:50and she's
00:55:50genuinely sincere
00:55:51but I'll choose
00:55:54when I put it
00:55:54to bed
00:55:55Jamie not having
00:55:57any ounce of
00:55:58my perspective
00:55:59and then fully
00:56:01just understanding
00:56:02Ri's point of view
00:56:03and it's not fair
00:56:05I don't put you
00:56:06in shame
00:56:07how to worry
00:56:07I don't want
00:56:08to throw away
00:56:09this friendship
00:56:09our friendship
00:56:11is a lot more
00:56:11deeper than
00:56:12whatever the
00:56:12is going on
00:56:13there
00:56:13I don't care
00:56:14about anymore
00:56:14that's a waste
00:56:15of time
00:56:15now I'm hurt
00:56:19she made me feel
00:56:21like my words
00:56:22are invalid
00:56:22and that I am
00:56:25dumb for standing
00:56:26up for myself
00:56:27and I'm not sure
00:56:29how I can progress
00:56:30with Jamie
00:56:31in the future
00:56:32like I really
00:56:42think we should
00:56:42put this to bed
00:56:44Ri love you
00:56:45you're not going
00:56:45to tell me to put
00:56:46it to bed though
00:56:46because this is my
00:56:47feelings
00:56:48so I'm not even
00:56:49given a sincere
00:56:49apology
00:56:50so I'll choose
00:56:51when I put it
00:56:51to bed
00:56:51I don't put you
00:56:54in shame
00:56:54category
00:56:54so I know
00:56:56where I stand
00:56:56with her
00:56:56that's cool
00:56:57fine
00:56:57know where I stand
00:56:58with her
00:56:58our friendship
00:56:59is a lot more
00:57:00deeper than
00:57:00whatever the
00:57:01is going on
00:57:01there
00:57:01I don't care
00:57:02about anymore
00:57:02that's a waste
00:57:03of time
00:57:03I think what's
00:57:06really sad
00:57:06to watch here
00:57:07is that
00:57:08Jamie and
00:57:10Karina were
00:57:10friends in this
00:57:11experiment
00:57:12until this
00:57:13situation emerged
00:57:14and now
00:57:15due to
00:57:16a person
00:57:17who's not even
00:57:18there tonight
00:57:19they've absolutely
00:57:20imploded
00:57:21they will not
00:57:22hear each other's
00:57:23point of view
00:57:23there is absolutely
00:57:24no peace
00:57:26between them
00:57:26at all
00:57:27it's really
00:57:28sad to watch
00:57:29yes
00:57:30how you going
00:57:32I mean that was
00:57:33pretty heated
00:57:33but needed to be
00:57:34done
00:57:35I think it's
00:57:35I think it's
00:57:36really f***ing
00:57:37clear right now
00:57:38like what's
00:57:38going on
00:57:39Karina's
00:57:40doubled down
00:57:41fighting with her
00:57:42is actually
00:57:42painful
00:57:43so I don't
00:57:44care
00:57:45because she's
00:57:45called me
00:57:46aggressive
00:57:47mean girl
00:57:48she's backed
00:57:48it
00:57:49oh no
00:57:49she's made
00:57:50terrible
00:57:50and mistaken
00:57:50that's what
00:57:51you know
00:57:51what
00:57:51I don't want
00:57:52a friend
00:57:53like that
00:57:53that's going
00:57:53to do that
00:57:54to me
00:57:54that's it
00:57:55to me
00:57:56it's not
00:57:57she's let me
00:57:58down
00:57:58I'm seeing
00:57:59the type of
00:57:59person she is
00:58:00that is not
00:58:01my person
00:58:01not my kind
00:58:02of people
00:58:03it really isn't
00:58:04you choose
00:58:05your friends
00:58:05and I choose
00:58:06I don't choose
00:58:07Karina
00:58:08are you okay
00:58:13yeah I feel
00:58:15like I'm not
00:58:15smart enough
00:58:16I feel like
00:58:18I'm the dumb
00:58:18girl
00:58:19I'm not
00:58:20good with
00:58:21this stuff
00:58:21like I'm
00:58:22I just want
00:58:23to see the
00:58:24best in
00:58:24everyone
00:58:25and I feel
00:58:26like I'm
00:58:26just stupid
00:58:27that's why
00:58:29we came into
00:58:30the nine
00:58:30handle the way
00:58:31we did
00:58:31because we're
00:58:31going to find
00:58:31out who
00:58:32has our back
00:58:32I said to you
00:58:33if we have to
00:58:34burn it to the ground
00:58:35let us burn it to the ground
00:58:36and let it burn
00:58:36like that's it
00:58:37we found out
00:58:37who our mates are
00:58:38I came in wanting
00:58:40clarity
00:58:41I've definitely
00:58:42gotten clarity
00:58:43I know exactly
00:58:43where I stand
00:58:44with everyone
00:58:45so I have
00:58:46no regrets
00:58:47no regrets
00:58:49period
00:58:50I don't want
00:58:53to be here
00:58:53to get involved
00:58:55with everyone's
00:58:55relationship
00:58:56like my relationship
00:58:57is going well
00:58:58and I'm like
00:58:59like
00:59:00like
00:59:01like a family girl
00:59:04like I wouldn't
00:59:05raise my children
00:59:06to speak like that
00:59:08like
00:59:08that's just
00:59:09not me
00:59:10my family
00:59:15Sunday night
00:59:25you're smiling
00:59:26Adrian
00:59:27it doesn't always
00:59:28happen
00:59:29Athena and Adrian's
00:59:31extraordinary
00:59:31turnaround
00:59:32I'm happy
00:59:33you know
00:59:33we're at a great
00:59:34place right now
00:59:34we're also talking
00:59:35about our next
00:59:36moments together
00:59:37love is on full
00:59:38display at the
00:59:39commitment ceremony
00:59:40can you see yourself
00:59:42falling in love with
00:59:42Reid
00:59:43yeah
00:59:43and how's that feel
00:59:45it feels very good
00:59:46it feels very good
00:59:47it was like a
00:59:49Mean Girls 2.0
00:59:51environment
00:59:51a friendship in
00:59:53tatters
00:59:53you keep on
00:59:54doubling down
00:59:55and insulting me
00:59:56with neither
00:59:57Jamie nor Karina
00:59:58backing down
00:59:59I defended you
01:00:00and your husband
01:00:01when
01:00:01when
01:00:02can the experts
01:00:03mend deep wounds
01:00:05you're embarrassing
01:00:06please just stop
01:00:07talking to me
01:00:07you talk
01:00:09as though you're
01:00:10above them
01:00:10Lauren held to
01:00:12account
01:00:12you've thrown some
01:00:13words around tonight
01:00:14psycho
01:00:15animals
01:00:16I don't associate
01:00:17with this type
01:00:18the experts deliver
01:00:20some hard truths
01:00:21I think you're giving
01:00:22yourself a little bit
01:00:23too much credit here
01:00:24personality wise
01:00:26oh dang
01:00:26that's the problem
01:00:28though
01:00:28that's your problem
01:00:30get it
01:00:32get it
01:00:32go
01:00:32I think you're
01:00:38I think you're
01:00:39gonna make it
01:00:40go
01:00:41you
01:00:41and
01:00:42I think you're
01:00:43back to
01:00:43what that happened
01:00:45so that's what I do
01:00:45to you
01:00:45and
01:00:46you
01:00:47and
01:00:48and
01:00:49what that's
01:00:49what I do
01:00:50and
01:00:51I do
01:00:51and
01:00:52I do