In an interview held in conjunction with the national-level International Firefighters Day celebrations on Sunday (May 4), Fire and Rescue Department director-general Datuk Nor Hisham Mohammad shares insights into the department’s evolving role and the challenges it faces.
He also outlines his vision for strengthening the department’s core functions—saving lives, conducting rescue operations, extinguishing fires, building strategic partnerships with the private sector, and leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance firefighting capabilities.
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He also outlines his vision for strengthening the department’s core functions—saving lives, conducting rescue operations, extinguishing fires, building strategic partnerships with the private sector, and leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance firefighting capabilities.
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00:00What more can be done to improve safety and security of people, especially Malaysia, rapidly progressing through the various industries?
00:13We have a few approach that we feel that we need to improve.
00:19One is that we recently amended our Akta.
00:25So, Akta itu ada tujuh perkara.
00:30Directly related to industry, ada tiga.
00:34Pertamanya ialah bagaimana kita melihat bahawa kawalan,
00:39the control, mechanism yang kita ada untuk produk-produk berkaitan dengan keselamatan keberkaraan.
00:46The clue sign, the sprinkler.
00:49The last time we do it administratively.
00:53Maksudnya, Ketua Pengarah mengeluarkan arahan bahawa this is the product we control.
00:58Tanpa kita ada peruntukan perundangan yang kuat.
01:02So, this time amendment, kita letakkan itu sebagai yang kita utamakan
01:08dan telah diluluskan oleh Dewan Rakyat dan Dewan Negara.
01:12These are amendments to the new bill?
01:14No, the Akta Perkhidmatan Bomber.
01:16Fahir Services Act.
01:17We did amendment to 42 section.
01:21So, dulu, kalau macam, if you not comply,
01:26maksudnya you tidak letakkan produk pasu yang patutnya put original,
01:32kita terpaksa gunakan akta di bawah KP dan NKK lah.
01:36Maksudnya, apa itu, membekalkan pelatan pasu.
01:39Ataupun, kita juga ada ambil elemen bahawa kita tidak akan keluarkan sokongan
01:44sama ada CCCC ataupun OP ataupun pelesenan.
01:48Tetapi, under this recent amendment itu,
01:51kita ada right ataupun kita ada kuasa,
01:53of course lah melalui peguam negara,
01:56yang boleh letak jatuhkan hukuman up to 500,000.
02:00This amendment to the Fire Services Act,
02:02after Amnius, you are making the amendments?
02:04Last time is 2020, 2018.
02:07Dari dulu, Nelson, pindah sikit-sikit.
02:10Bukan major, yang ini major.
02:13Last year, bila saya datang, saya jadi KP.
02:16Penekanan saya ialah,
02:18how we should digitalize the department, right?
02:21Jadi, kita ada tengok digitalization dia,
02:24main peranan yang sangat penting lah.
02:26Our dream is,
02:28kalau you tanya saya,
02:30macam mana saya nak menjawab persoalan public
02:33yang always cakap,
02:35kenapa lambat dan bila sampai?
02:38Kan?
02:39When you are in distress, you call us.
02:41One minute, for you, you feel like you dah satu jam, dua jam.
02:45Then you call back.
02:46Dah datang jentera atau belum?
02:48Kan?
02:49Bila nak sampai?
02:50This is the question yang,
02:52all the incident people ask the same question.
02:54But we can't answer it.
02:56Kita boleh jawab,
02:57oh dah on the way,
02:58dah keluar lagi lima minit,
02:59tak lama lagi sampai lah.
03:00You dengar siren boleh sampai.
03:01So, it's not very objective punya jawapan.
03:04Jadi, apabila kita memulakan C4I kita,
03:07the pilot project in Klang Valley,
03:09the greater Klang Valley.
03:10Jadi,
03:11saya percaya bahawa,
03:14kita akan mula pada August ini insyaAllah,
03:17kita akan mulih menjawab Nesem punya soalan tadi tu.
03:21So, Datuk, coming to question 2 of your AI,
03:23how are you using it now?
03:25Okay.
03:26First, we already formed one special team
03:28under Timbalan Ketua Pengarah Pengurusan
03:31to look in
03:33and venture
03:35how we can utilize the AI
03:37to improve department performance.
03:39Okay.
03:40Like I just mentioned before,
03:42macam you kata tadi kan,
03:43how we can mobilize
03:45by engine,
03:46find the best route
03:47to sampai ke incident.
03:49So, we know already,
03:50bila you akan sampai.
03:52So, that part of the,
03:54kita punya venture dalam penggunaan AI lah.
03:56Okay.
03:57So, second one ialah,
03:58kita juga,
03:59orang cakap,
04:00orang cakap,
04:01now venture dalam
04:02how we can use AI
04:04to,
04:05to,
04:06do an asset management.
04:08Okay.
04:09Okay, last time,
04:10kita buat asset management
04:11on manual basis.
04:12Maksudnya,
04:13you have to tick lah,
04:14check and tick, check and tick kan.
04:15Check list lah.
04:16Check list lah.
04:17So, insyaAllah,
04:18before end of this year,
04:20kita akan mula guna RFID.
04:22Next time,
04:23duduk sahaja,
04:25pakai dia punya scanner tu,
04:26tahu tiga barang takde.
04:28In the 5G lah.
04:29In the 5G,
04:30in the store so.
04:31Betul kan.
04:32Yang C4i,
04:33for Klang Whaley,
04:34you all dah implemented?
04:35Not yet.
04:36August.
04:37August.
04:38Infrastructure dah siap.
04:39How much you all spend on that?
04:4148.5 million.
04:43So,
04:44once it's Klang Whaley tested,
04:46it will be tested?
04:47We just,
04:48expand.
04:49Yeah,
04:50yeah.
04:51Yeah.
04:52Yeah.
04:53Tetapi,
04:54some of the,
04:55some of the features itu,
04:56program itu cover nationwide.
04:58For example,
04:59untuk pilih bomber,
05:00untuk,
05:01you,
05:02apa tu,
05:03locate,
05:04you,
05:05you remember the compact fire rescue tender,
05:07kita yang kecil itu,
05:08yang apa,
05:09harga sejuta itu,
05:10small one,
05:11Johor terima tiga itu,
05:12that one kita dah,
05:13dah pasang.
05:14monitor dia punya position kat mana.
05:15This the one,
05:16the last,
05:17Hari Bumba,
05:18you went on it right?
05:19Yeah.
05:20In Ipoh.
05:21Dewan Usaha.
05:22Itu pun,
05:23sambung juga.
05:24So,
05:25they've already preset lah.
05:26Yes, yeah.
05:27The preset lah.
05:28Maksudnya,
05:29we know right,
05:30dekat mana sekarang?
05:31All the cars.
05:32Termasuk di Sabah Sarawak lah.
05:33Exact location lah.
05:34Tetapi,
05:35kita tidak boleh,
05:36belum ada link contohnya,
05:38on,
05:39on apa tu,
05:40yang ada dekat,
05:41Clang Valley later on,
05:42dia akan ada dash cam.
05:44Yang kita boleh nampak,
05:45daripada command center kita,
05:47to monitor,
05:48orang cakap,
05:49dia punya situation.
05:50Oh.
05:51Kemudian,
05:52untuk dekat fire fighters yang jalan tu,
05:53kita akan ada body camera,
05:55yang akan kita beri command dan bantu dia.
05:57How,
05:58what,
05:59if they should do better.
06:00Bila,
06:01expected lah tu?
06:02Haa,
06:03August lah.
06:04Oh,
06:05it will be part of the,
06:06the proper body cam you all are taking?
06:08120,
06:09because,
06:10one station,
06:11we supply two.
06:12So,
06:13the fire engine will have a dash cam,
06:14the angkota will have a camera,
06:16where by you all will be giving instructions,
06:18through the system.
06:19Oh, that's pretty interesting.
06:20Yeah.
06:21How can Bombo work,
06:22to build on more,
06:23public,
06:24private partnership,
06:25as part of this engagement?
06:27Oh,
06:28that's a way forward,
06:29the four P,
06:30people, public,
06:31private partnership.
06:32So,
06:33we started,
06:34a few programs under this four P.
06:37Hmm.
06:38First is,
06:39we plan to have,
06:40a,
06:41community fire learning center,
06:44which is,
06:45kita akan set up,
06:46on check up,
06:47on check up,
06:48on check up,
06:49on check up,
06:51on check up small scale training,
06:52and small scale education center,
06:55untuk public masuk ke,
06:57on check up,
06:58on check up,
06:59on check up,
07:00on check up,
07:01on check up,
07:02we also have facilities,
07:04public,
07:05to use,
07:06for example,
07:07if you want to have a meeting,
07:08with your NGO,
07:10you want to have the counseling session,
07:12you can welcome you,
07:14to use facilities,
07:15which the constitution,
07:17before you start the session,
07:18we will ask you,
07:20to allocate,
07:21short time,
07:22or certain time,
07:23to do public fire safety talk.
07:26Okay.
07:27Maksudnya,
07:28kita ceritalah,
07:29sama juga,
07:30you nak sambut berday,
07:31dekat,
07:32dekat,
07:33dekat balai kita,
07:34kita akan provide,
07:35on check up,
07:36facility,
07:37yang attract,
07:38kanak-kanak,
07:39untuk force,
07:40mak ayah dia datang.
07:41Kan,
07:42saya mahu pakai,
07:43semalam kawan,
07:44saya pakai baju bomba saya,
07:45berday saya nanti.
07:46Tetapi,
07:47bila dia datang,
07:48dalam bomba tu,
07:49kita cakap,
07:50okay,
07:51you buat,
07:52you punya berday party,
07:53you end game,
07:54can we have a fight talk?
07:56Oh,
07:57dah start?
07:58Ha?
07:59Dah start je?
08:00Dah start.
08:01Cuma tahun ni,
08:02kita target,
08:03untuk adakan,
08:04enam lagi,
08:05center,
08:06tu lapan lagi center.
08:07So yesterday,
08:08we had a meeting,
08:09dengan negeri-negeri,
08:10yang akan mengadakan,
08:11facility ini,
08:13Johor,
08:14one of it,
08:15yang,
08:16dia akan buat di,
08:17balai bomba lakil.
08:19Recently,
08:20kita ada,
08:21dengan gotong jaya lah.
08:23We,
08:24we,
08:25we have a plan,
08:26to build,
08:27balai bomba gotong jaya.
08:29Tetapi,
08:30when we're talking about gotong jaya,
08:31Genting Highland kan,
08:32you tahu,
08:33because the difficulties untuk,
08:34dia punya,
08:35apa tu,
08:36terrain semua tu,
08:37untuk bina.
08:38So,
08:39the price keep on increasing.
08:40Maksudnya,
08:41originally,
08:42kita plan,
08:43bajet dulu,
08:44mula-mula ialah,
08:45dua puluh,
08:46dua juta.
08:47Then,
08:48increase to,
08:4939 million.
08:50So,
08:51kita buat reassessment semua,
08:52they increase to,
08:5356 million.
08:54Then,
08:55kemudian,
08:56dia naik lagi,
08:57came on,
08:58jumlah itu,
08:59jangkaan,
09:00cost project,
09:01tambah banyak.
09:02Tetapi,
09:03dalam,
09:04dalam DE budget,
09:05kita hanya,
09:06dapat shilling ialah,
09:0739 million.
09:08So,
09:09apa yang kita buat ialah,
09:10through kita punya YB Menteri,
09:12kita discuss dengan Genting.
09:13So,
09:14Genting bersetuju bahawa,
09:15dia akan build for us,
09:17the station,
09:18which is our scope,
09:19and requirement,
09:20which is the ceiling budget,
09:22government hanya keluar,
09:2339 million.
09:24Yang bahki itu,
09:25walaupun,
09:26orang cakap,
09:27different itu,
09:28dia akan dikeluarkan oleh Genting.
09:29So,
09:30masa kita buat assessment semula itu,
09:32then,
09:33the project cost estimated at,
09:3568 million.
09:37Hmm.
09:38Jadi,
09:39government keluar 39,
09:40so,
09:41Genting akan,
09:42do a donation,
09:43berkurang dalam 21 million.
09:44Yes.
09:45Yes.
09:46You mentioned that,
09:47at least,
09:481,181 firemen are obese,
09:49and another,
09:50229,
09:51suffer from various health issues.
09:52Hmm.
09:53What are the measures taken to correct this?
09:54And,
09:55what are the three illnesses that,
09:57firemen face,
09:58is stressed due to the job one of them?
10:001,181,
10:03uh,
10:04firemen,
10:05uh,
10:06on the,
10:07is our best lah.
10:08Hmm.
10:09Not overweight,
10:10so,
10:11the MBMI is more than 30.
10:12Okay.
10:13This one is a,
10:14last year punya figure.
10:15Okay.
10:16So, last year June,
10:17we start, uh,
10:18our program,
10:19we started our program,
10:20Wellness Hub,
10:21di semua seluruh negara,
10:23we identified,
10:24uh,
10:25I'm cakap,
10:26pegawai-pegawai yang sepatutnya kita absorb,
10:27dalam program ini.
10:29So,
10:30first stage,
10:31kita minta,
10:32diorang buat self declaration.
10:33Okay.
10:34For those yang having, uh,
10:35teruk punya,
10:36apa tu,
10:37darah tinggi,
10:38teruk ada jantung,
10:39lepas tu,
10:40I'm cakap,
10:41diabetic yang teruk tu,
10:42uh, sorry,
10:43uh, apa tu,
10:44yang apa tu,
10:45kidney,
10:46kidney problem,
10:47uh,
10:48renal function tu,
10:49kita kecualikan dulu,
10:50daripada memasuki,
10:51uh,
10:52scheme ni.
10:53So, 229 lah,
10:55ada yang cancer,
10:56pancreas,
10:57ada yang tu.
10:58Jadi, kita,
10:59kecualikan diorang daripada masuk,
11:00daripada program.
11:01Okay.
11:02So, the balance,
11:03kita masukkan dalam wellness hub.
11:04Okay.
11:05Jadi, daripada wellness hub yang kita buat ni,
11:0733%,
11:08uh,
11:09kita tengok,
11:10merekodkan, uh,
11:11penurunan berat badan yang signifikan.
11:13Oh.
11:14Two hundred and, uh,
11:16sixty,
11:17manage to masuk dalam ideal BMI.
11:19Okay.
11:20Jadi, you potong ni lah,
11:21satu, satu, lapan, satu.
11:22Dalam masa enam bulan,
11:23dia turun.
11:24Ada yang turun sampai, uh,
11:2630 kilo.
11:27Ada turun,
11:28ada yang 20 kilo dalam masa tiga bulan.
11:30Hmm.
11:31Jadi, dia turun.
11:32Haa.
11:33Jadi, kita ambik kira juga, Nelson.
11:34Ada yang turun kalau sebab diabetes,
11:35kita tak ambik kira sebagai champion juga.
11:37Haa.
11:38Tetapi, uh,
11:39bila dia ada diabetes,
11:40tapi dia jump,
11:41join untuk wellness,
11:42dia akan drop dengan lagi cepat.
11:43Oh.
11:44Cuma, kita cakap,
11:45for this case,
11:46dia kena build the muscle lah.
11:47Hmm.
11:48Kan, sebab kalau dia,
11:49biasa orang cakap potong makan,
11:50dia punya muscle akan hilang.
11:51Dia punya muscle,
11:52susah nak buat kerja juga.
11:53So, we ask them to do, uh, muscle punya exercise.
11:56So, a lot of cases of firemen having, uh, like, uh, mental issues,
12:00or under stress becoming...
12:02Anxiety lah.
12:03Haa.
12:04Ada?
12:05Less than 10 lah.
12:06Oh, very few.
12:07Very few lah.
12:08Haa, very few.
12:09Haa, semua numbers.
12:10Yang kita refer to psychiatric lah.
12:12Haa, yes.
12:13Haa, banyak sebab tadilah tak boleh balik kampung.
12:15Haa, duduk jauh dengan bini.
12:17Haa.
12:18Haa.
12:19Haa, same's Dadu.
12:25Haa...
12:26Haa.