In an interview in conjunction with International Firefighters Day national level celebrations taking place in Pahang on Saturday (May 4), Fire and Rescue Department director-general Datuk Nor Hisham Mohammad talks about the department’s vital role and the challenges it faces—particularly in responding to major disasters such as the recent inferno in Putra Heights, Selangor.
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00:00Talking about Malaysia, we cannot run away from what we call a flood.
00:04We have a monsoon flood and we also do have the flash flood.
00:08So, for the past five years, if I may to recall, we experienced the worst flood ever
00:16is when it happened in six days.
00:19Mainly, Selangor, same day, then happened to the same time also hit Negeri Semilan and Pahang.
00:30Yeah, Pahang in the Karak area, Selangor, of course, we have 22 area affected on that night
00:37from Hulu Langat, then we go to Sepang and then Kuala Langat, of course, on the Klang side
00:46and then, kita tak boleh lupakan, the Taman Seri Muda lah, the worst and worst affected by the monsoon Timur Laut.
00:54That's where your house was affected, yeah?
00:56My house was affected, 8 hari tenggelam, 6 kaki dalam.
01:00Oh, that's very good.
01:01Yeah, because my house is on the lowest point of this Kampung Bukit Canggang lah.
01:06The overflow from this Sungai Langat came down from upstream,
01:10daripada Hulu Langat, then my area is in Kuala Langat.
01:14Jadi, coincident, that time also king type kan?
01:18Jadi, dia temu dua-dua ni, jadi itu yang teruk lah.
01:21And then, Batang Kali, 2022.
01:24So, that's a natural disaster yang berlaku.
01:28Dan Putra Haid recently, even though the investigation still going on,
01:33but I do believe that's a combination of a few factors.
01:36The natural factor and the man-made factor lah.
01:39So, itu kita akan tunggu dia punya finding lah nanti.
01:43Dr. Soalan tu, eh?
01:45Yes.
01:45Although the life's loss in this case were minimum,
01:47but there was a lot of loss of two property.
01:49How many were injured in the case
01:51and what is the total loss of so far that you all estimate?
01:54Based on the record by Kementerian Kesihatan,
01:57ada 150 victim yang refer to the, refer themselves to the hospital
02:03and clinic surrounding the area lah.
02:05Jadi, daripada jumlah itu, I was informed that
02:07tiga tidak menerima apa-apa rawatan lah.
02:11More on traumatic punya, dia kata dia trauma,
02:13takut, berdebar, something like that lah kan.
02:15So, the rest, 147, dia ada suffered,
02:19mencakap burn lah.
02:20Majority is a burn injury.
02:22Based on estimation, we met within the radius of 280 meter.
02:26Radius incident, because based on the first simulation,
02:29we assume that area will be affected,
02:33we run the KMEO punya, apa tu, program,
02:36ialah sejauh 335 meter radius.
02:39If it's going to be about 437 rumah,
02:44we are talking about losses about 102 million.
02:46Officially, declared, I declared hari itu ialah,
02:48loss ialah 65 million.
02:51From house punya loss je.
02:54Dengan building and building content.
02:57Okay?
02:58Building and building content.
02:59I mean, the building and the building content lah,
03:01all the sofa, all the TV semua.
03:02Exclude, kita estimate juga untuk kereta,
03:05lebih kurang 7 million.
03:06Itu tetap masuk masa kiraan itu.
03:07Because kereta is subject to you,
03:09hantar kepada workshop,
03:11then workshop, we evaluate lah.
03:13Kan?
03:13Ada yang claim kata total loss.
03:14Tetapi bila kita bershop,
03:16dia hanya replace all the panel sahaja kan.
03:18Jadi, 7.
03:18And then, on top of that,
03:21we have around 5 point something million
03:23on the infrastructure loss.
03:25Maksudnya yang garden,
03:27kan, apa tu,
03:29apa tu, road furniture, lampu,
03:31kan, jalan.
03:32So, gangway,
03:35semua itu yang another loss lah.
03:37Okay.
03:37So, all together macam itulah.
03:39Yang lebih kurang dalam 80 million lah.
03:41So, yang Petronas ada buat,
03:43they were claim to?
03:44Petronas belum.
03:45Oh, there are losses?
03:47Belum, not yet, not yet.
03:48Because they have so many losses
03:50on Petronasai.
03:51Kita kena faham
03:52bahawa it's direct loss
03:53because of the pipe.
03:54Lepas tu, it's contract loss.
03:57Kan?
03:57Lepas tu,
03:58dia ada lagi projection macam-macam lah.
04:00Is it like a miracle that
04:01nobody died in this incident?
04:03I think so.
04:04Because?
04:05From the size of the fire
04:06and whatever we saw.
04:07And happen.
04:08The time is open.
04:10Bukan cuti sekolah,
04:11sedang cuti umum.
04:12Hari raya sama.
04:13Orang tak pergi kerja kan?
04:15Pukul 8 pagi,
04:16orang tak pergi kerja.
04:18Lepas tu,
04:18orang tak ada dekat rumah.
04:20On the bomber side,
04:21kita ada juga
04:22yang kita punya,
04:23kita panggil
04:24right time happen.
04:26Because,
04:27pukul 8 pagi,
04:28we about to tukar the shift.
04:29So,
04:29semua anggota dah ready
04:30pakai baju,
04:31nak tukar,
04:32ambil baris kan?
04:33Nak check.
04:34Then,
04:34alarm trigger.
04:35Terus,
04:36kita boleh mobilize
04:37semua balai.
04:38Hari raya sama.
04:39Trafik tak heavy.
04:41Jadi,
04:41cepat sampai.
04:43All the fire engine,
04:43cepat sampai.
04:44On jam 11,
04:45balai yang kita hantar
04:46mula-mula tu.
04:47Semua sampai dengan,
04:49orang cakap,
04:49very quick time.
04:51And then,
04:52another one ialah,
04:53kita baru saja keluar rekrut
04:54pada bulan puasa baru ni.
04:57So,
04:57this rekrut,
04:58kebanyakan majority
04:59yang tu tak boleh cuti lah.
05:00So,
05:00those yang post dekat
05:01balai-balai ni
05:02tak boleh cuti.
05:03So,
05:03diorang pun tengah fit lah,
05:04Nelson.
05:04Jadi,
05:05bila jadi tu,
05:06dia laju,
05:07dia sangat eager lah.
05:08Maksudnya,
05:09dia pergi sampai depan api lah.
05:11What are the challenges
05:11faced by bomber
05:12when handling this fire?
05:14Were your personnel injured
05:16or your equipment
05:17all damaged?
05:18Paling penting ialah,
05:20yang bagi saya ialah
05:20the intensity
05:21of the fire itu.
05:23If you look at the
05:24cameo punya,
05:25kita punya simulation,
05:27area 130 meter
05:29from the epicenter
05:30is considered
05:32very high hazard.
05:33Maksudnya,
05:34very high hazard
05:35to any human.
05:36Sebab,
05:37dia punya temperature tu
05:38is between
05:38430 degrees Celsius
05:40to 750 degrees Celsius.
05:43Which is,
05:44can melt,
05:45orang cakap,
05:46plastik and wood.
05:47Plastik,
05:48dia boleh melt
05:48dekat sepat tu,
05:49kalau besi,
05:50dia akan lost structure
05:51tapi kita tidak ada besi.
05:53So,
05:53dia punya,
05:54kita yang hadapi
05:55paling besar ialah
05:56the intensity
05:57of the,
05:58orang cakap,
05:59the heat itu
05:59yang akan beri efek
06:00kepada kita.
06:01Why did he take
06:02seven hours
06:03for the infernal
06:03to burn,
06:04you switch off the,
06:05no,
06:05yeah,
06:06you are right,
06:07you are right,
06:07you are right,
06:08because the first stage
06:10when I came there,
06:12the team estimated
06:13that the fire
06:14will be last
06:15for four hours
06:16based on the,
06:17orang cakap,
06:17the quantity of the gas,
06:19the pressure,
06:19whatever,
06:20dalam tu,
06:20dalam tu,
06:21ok,
06:22kita cakap ada.
06:23Tetapi,
06:23saya tengok tadi,
06:24because on the upstream,
06:26we have 8 kilometer
06:27punya pipe gas
06:28yang ada gas,
06:29so the downstream,
06:30you ada another
06:3110 bawah,
06:32tetapi,
06:33there is a backflow
06:34yang masuk
06:35daripada
06:36northern,
06:38maksudnya,
06:38because very high
06:39pressure kan,
06:40mungkin barf itu,
06:41jadi dia ada
06:42backflow
06:42from the northern region
06:44tu,
06:44sebab kena ingat,
06:45apa tu,
06:47this gas
06:47supply from
06:48segamat,
06:49pumping out
06:49toward north,
06:50jadi tetapi,
06:51apabila terbakar tu,
06:53nesan,
06:54jadi pressure dalam,
06:55between these two,
06:57gate buff itu,
06:58dia dah lost,
06:59drop the pressure
06:59because dia dah
07:00burn out kan,
07:01tetapi,
07:02kena ingat,
07:02ini tinggi,
07:03so dia ada
07:04backflow sedikit,
07:05so we have to close
07:06another buff,
07:07the adjacent buff,
07:08the next buff,
07:09so people asking me juga,
07:11kenapa tak hantar tim
07:12untuk padam,
07:13boleh padam,
07:14first is you have to use
07:15explosion lah,
07:17untuk embus,
07:17supaya vibration,
07:19jadi kalau you guna itu,
07:20habis dengan rumah semua habislah,
07:22all gone,
07:22and then another one,
07:24you can use the excavator,
07:26bawa tanah sebesar-besar,
07:27and then try to cover it up,
07:29cut the oxygen,
07:30then you boleh padam,
07:31tapi siapa nak dare untuk,
07:33ni kan,
07:33sebab,
07:34apa tu,
07:34aircon pun cair,
07:36you nak hantar siapa,
07:37jadi not possible to do,
07:39so the best strategy,
07:40untuk big pipe,
07:42ladyburn,
07:44so saya estimate,
07:45pada pukul 3.48,
07:48sepatutnya padam,
07:49tetapi dia padam,
07:50pada 3.45 lah,
07:51sebab,
07:54saya bagi statement,
07:553 minutes earlier sahaja,
07:57bila diorang kata,
07:58padam,
07:59saya tengok 3.45,
08:00that official time,
08:01kita dikelayalah,
08:02dia padam,
08:04ok,
08:04ok,