90 Day - The Last Resort S2 Episode 22
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00:00Previously on 90 Day, The Last Resort, The Couples Tell All.
00:18Stacey and Florian, how do you think your relationship is today?
00:23Every day going more down.
00:25We've been arguing, like, every day.
00:27Just in the poke the bear, you're good to go.
00:30Florian, you're a liability when you act like that,
00:33because what if he does something stupid one day?
00:36I'm responsible for him.
00:38Like, he's gonna f*** up our life.
00:42Natalie, you know, sent me messages that say f*** me.
00:46So, like, you know.
00:48You are too vulgar.
00:50For me, it was a surprise that Josh broke up with me,
00:52so I couldn't really move on.
00:54Josh, did you ever consider Natalie your girlfriend?
00:59I don't think that I would have considered her my girlfriend, no.
01:03Why are you saying this?
01:04What a b***h!
01:05Ouch.
01:06Ten days after a couple's therapy,
01:11Jasmine spent the night away from home,
01:14and I kept asking her,
01:15I know you're with Matt,
01:16and she never responded back,
01:18no, I'm not with him.
01:20It's nonsense.
01:21He says his own lies so many times.
01:24He's a broken disc.
01:26Well, I think we'd all like to get to know Matt.
01:30He hit him personal.
01:31Please welcome Matt, everybody.
01:34Hello, how are you?
01:49Hi there, Matt.
01:50How are you?
01:51Hello, how are you?
01:55Hi.
01:56Hi.
01:56Hi.
02:01Matt, congratulations on your future baby.
02:05How did you feel when Jasmine told you she was pregnant?
02:12Pretty scared.
02:13I don't know what it is.
02:15I just, I kind of been running from it.
02:17So, since I was young, you know,
02:19I'm running from getting married or having children.
02:24But I'm getting to the age, you know,
02:26where it's time for me to grow up, maybe have kids.
02:30But I was definitely scared when she told me.
02:33It took us by surprise,
02:34because we were taking all the precautions.
02:36I was like,
02:38like, we couldn't believe it was happening.
02:40So, yeah, he was super scared.
02:42But once he saw the facts that,
02:45yes,
02:45I'm pregnant,
02:48he was immediately very supportive.
02:50You were afraid to have kids,
02:52but you weren't afraid to have a kid with a married woman?
02:55I mean,
02:56things kind of just happen sometimes in life.
03:00Come on, Matt.
03:02I'm surprised
03:02how Matt has agreed to come here with a video call.
03:06I'm very surprised, to be honest.
03:07Me, I'm like, in your shoes,
03:10nobody can see my face here.
03:13I know Gino is trying to make you think
03:16that I'm some horrible, you know,
03:18like, marriage breaker,
03:19and I'm not.
03:20I'm not that type of person.
03:24Jasmine, you always talked about
03:26how Gino was physically your type.
03:29But Matt looks very different from Gino.
03:33Explain that to me.
03:36He looked like Brandon.
03:38Do you think he,
03:39do you, you said you think he looks like?
03:40Like Brandon.
03:42Like Brandon?
03:43I thought he looked like Florian.
03:45Like a child.
03:46If Florian and Brandon had a child.
03:49I don't know how to explain that.
03:57I mean,
03:58he's a very attractive man.
04:00I won't deny it.
04:01Who I,
04:02even if he wasn't my type,
04:03like,
04:03I think he's very attractive.
04:05But I always found my husband attractive.
04:08I have always said it,
04:10and people don't believe me,
04:11but it is what it is.
04:12Well, I think he's ugly.
04:14Matt,
04:17what would you like to say to Gino?
04:22I'm not the type of person
04:23that's going to sit here
04:24and argue with Gino
04:25about what happened there,
04:26what happened here.
04:29They asked me to come into
04:30some open relationship.
04:32I agreed.
04:34I don't know.
04:35I was just friends with her.
04:37I don't have to go after
04:38anybody's woman or anything.
04:39If you treat her
04:43like you just treat
04:44anybody you want to be
04:46a dickhead to,
04:46right,
04:47you're going to have
04:47problems with her
04:48because you're going to
04:49hurt her feelings.
04:50She's going to get upset.
04:51She's going to cry.
04:52You're not going to get
04:53anywhere with her.
04:54You know,
04:54you're just going to end up
04:56bumping heads
04:57and arguing all the time.
04:59So if you don't treat her
05:01so you don't talk to her
05:05like somebody that you care for,
05:06you don't get anywhere with her.
05:08You don't know anything.
05:10I'm sure he tried his best
05:11to treat her nice.
05:12I treated her nice.
05:14Gino,
05:15you said when you guys
05:16were being intimate
05:17that she still disrespected you.
05:19Things were still not good,
05:19right?
05:21Correct.
05:21So why'd you agree to this?
05:24I don't understand
05:25why we agreed to this whole thing.
05:26I think he just loved it
05:28so damn much.
05:28He tried.
05:29He was trying.
05:31Overall,
05:32after all this was done,
05:33I regret agreeing to open marriage.
05:35But I felt like
05:38I was trapped in a corner.
05:39Like I had to make a decision,
05:40take action
05:40because nothing was working for us.
05:43But it just seemed like
05:44an odd contract
05:46in the very beginning
05:47because your relationship
05:50was broken.
05:52It wasn't as though
05:52you had a healthy relationship
05:54and said,
05:54let's bring somebody else in
05:56to spice things up.
05:57It was like your relationship
05:59was broken.
05:59So I never really understood
06:01how having an open marriage
06:03would help you
06:04become a stronger couple.
06:07Okay.
06:07I was thinking
06:08if I agreed to this open marriage
06:10or whatnot,
06:11that would make Jasmine happy.
06:14And if Jasmine's happy,
06:16I'm going to be happy
06:17because she's not going
06:17to be attacking me anymore.
06:18Why are you going to be happy?
06:19Somebody f*** your wife.
06:19Please don't interrupt me.
06:21Go ahead, Gino.
06:23Finally,
06:23we are both happy, right?
06:25We could get back together
06:26at some point,
06:27maybe start being intimate again.
06:29and then get rid of
06:31the third person.
06:33But how did you think
06:35her having sex repeatedly
06:38with someone else
06:39would make you two closer
06:41and not her closer
06:43to the person
06:43she's having sex with?
06:47Because it's an open marriage
06:49and for instance,
06:50Reba, one of the therapists,
06:51successfully executes it.
06:54Does anybody here think
06:55there was any way
06:57this contract was going to work?
06:59No.
07:03It was doomed from the start.
07:06To Jasmine,
07:07I always say,
07:08do I support this open marriage?
07:09I tell her in her face,
07:10no.
07:11I never say,
07:12oh, go ahead,
07:13go ban this guy.
07:14That's true.
07:15I always say,
07:16no,
07:16that's a bad idea.
07:18Leave Gina,
07:19go with Matt.
07:20I support her happiness.
07:22Support open marriage?
07:23Absolutely not.
07:24So, Matt,
07:27you heard us earlier
07:28talking about this contract
07:30between Jasmine and Gino
07:32when it came to you.
07:34What did you understand
07:36were the rules
07:37of this open marriage contract?
07:39That she's allowed to,
07:41like,
07:42hang out with me
07:42or sleep with me,
07:43like,
07:43twice a week
07:44or something like that.
07:45So, Jasmine,
07:48what, if anything,
07:50was Gino
07:51supposed to be getting
07:51out of this situation
07:52between you and Matt?
07:56Cheeseburgers.
07:59Yeah,
08:00a cheeseburger, right?
08:02What?
08:04He's acting like this
08:05now because
08:06he feels like
08:06he has all the support
08:08and the guys.
08:10And seriously,
08:11okay,
08:11you know,
08:12the first week
08:13of the open marriage
08:15that I was going
08:15twice a week,
08:17two hours,
08:18Gino was okay with it.
08:19He was happy
08:20and he will always
08:21tell me, like,
08:22oh,
08:23tell Matt
08:23to buy me,
08:24like, a burger
08:25and I will come back home
08:26with the burger
08:27that Matt will buy to him.
08:29This is a,
08:30this is a 100%
08:32a lie.
08:33I've never said that.
08:34He's a burger pimp.
08:34100% lie
08:35and on top of that,
08:36it just sounds ridiculous.
08:37Jasmine never told me
08:39when she was going to Matt
08:40since she got back
08:40from couples therapy.
08:41Not once did she give me
08:42her location
08:43when I've asked for it.
08:44It's nonsense.
08:45Well, I think it's ridiculous.
08:46I think he's a terrible
08:48piece of as well
08:49because he's sleeping
08:49with another man's wife.
08:51But this doesn't make you
08:52somebody call piece of
08:53if you don't know
08:53this person's
08:54that guy.
08:55I don't need to know
08:56him to know this person.
08:56Why?
08:56Okay, what'd he do
08:57to your life?
08:58He got my friend's wife
08:59pregnant.
09:01Gino is a grown man, bro.
09:03You don't need
09:04to be his cup.
09:05Hey, dickhead,
09:06shut your mouth.
09:07Shut your mouth.
09:08Senior citizen.
09:09Oh, God.
09:11Matt, do you know
09:12why you say not do sex?
09:14Did you ask like Jasmine
09:15before opening a relationship?
09:18You know?
09:18Are you talking about it?
09:20What is the problem?
09:20Um, we had a conversation
09:24at the gym before
09:25but it was like
09:27eventually that part
09:29came out where
09:29they haven't been together
09:31and I don't know
09:32what to say.
09:34This is a grown man.
09:35What do you want me
09:35to say to that?
09:36You basically like
09:37you blame yourself
09:38what happened to Jasmine?
09:39Basically like
09:40you broke the marriage
09:41or like...
09:41You know,
09:44I would care
09:46but the thing is
09:47is he treated her bad
09:49and I'm not...
09:49You don't know
09:49man, you're
09:50in the head.
09:51You've never slept
09:52with her.
09:54Yeah, we did.
09:55In the beginning
09:56we did, idiot.
09:57You guys have never
09:58had sex.
09:59What are you talking about?
10:00This guy's delusional.
10:02Such the ladies man,
10:03aren't you my man?
10:05Mother
10:05I want to get back
10:13on track.
10:15So Jasmine,
10:16here's what I want to know.
10:17You know,
10:17one of the rules
10:18of the contract
10:19was not to develop
10:21any emotional connection.
10:25Yes.
10:26No feelings
10:26that could lead
10:27to falling in love.
10:28Yes.
10:29Because connection,
10:30there was already
10:30a connection.
10:31I needed a connection
10:32because I explained
10:33to Gino
10:34and I said it in therapy.
10:35I cannot just have sex
10:37with a random dude
10:38because that's not
10:39how my mind works.
10:40I need to know
10:41this person.
10:41I need to feel safe
10:42because in the act of sex
10:44there is a lot
10:45of vulnerability.
10:46You have to show
10:48your nudity,
10:49show your flaws
10:50and everything.
10:51So in your mind
10:52what was the line
10:54that you were not
10:56supposed to cross
10:57when it came to
10:58an emotional connection
10:59with Matt?
11:03One in...
11:04to be with him
11:07more than with Gino.
11:08Like falling in love
11:09with him.
11:11I want to know
11:12if Matt loves Jasmine.
11:13That's my question.
11:15I think that's
11:16a good question.
11:19Matt,
11:20do you love Jasmine?
11:21I do.
11:28She's carrying my child
11:29so I do.
11:35Jasmine,
11:36do you love Matt?
11:39It's like...
11:39if you ask me
11:44like be honest
11:45do you love him?
11:51Um...
11:51Coming up,
11:55please welcome
11:56your therapist
11:58James,
11:59Heidi,
11:59and Reba.
12:00I don't remember
12:01anyone saying to me,
12:02Gino,
12:02this is not a good idea.
12:04You shouldn't do
12:04this open marriage.
12:05It's not my job
12:06to tell you
12:07what you should
12:07and shouldn't do.
12:08Look at the product.
12:10You ruined her marriage.
12:12I think it's really easy
12:12to point fingers.
12:14No.
12:15Sweetheart,
12:15let me speak.
12:24Okay,
12:25let me ask one more time.
12:26Do you love Matt?
12:27I don't know
12:35if I'm having
12:36emotional attachment
12:39to him.
12:40I don't know
12:40if that is love.
12:42I don't even know
12:43what love is anymore.
12:44I don't even know
12:45what it is for me
12:47to be in love.
12:49I don't have
12:51an answer for that.
12:52I do care about him.
12:54I feel safe with him.
12:56I feel protected.
12:58I feel well
12:58taken care
12:59and I like that feeling.
13:02But
13:02I don't know
13:06if I love him.
13:11Let me ask you,
13:13do you still love Gino?
13:17Like,
13:24I'll be super honest
13:26to you, Sean.
13:27I will never be able
13:30to hate
13:31or be done resentful
13:33as Gino.
13:34He's acting like
13:34I'm his worst enemy.
13:36Like, you know,
13:37like,
13:37this is a battle
13:39of who looks good,
13:41who looks bad.
13:42I will never be able
13:46to hate someone
13:47that once I love
13:48that much.
13:50I know that a lot
13:51of people have
13:52questioned the reasons
13:53why I came to this country,
13:54like, if I use Gino.
13:56But I think
13:57that deep in his heart,
13:59he can say whatever
14:00he wants to people,
14:01but he truly knows
14:03how much I love him.
14:05And I know
14:10that I wasn't
14:11the perfect,
14:11why I made
14:12so many mistakes,
14:13you know?
14:14Look, if you truly
14:14loved me,
14:15you wouldn't...
14:16I don't care
14:17what you think anymore,
14:18Matt at the gym
14:19five months
14:19after marriage.
14:20I don't care
14:20what you think.
14:21I did love you.
14:23I came to this country
14:24out of love.
14:25You would not
14:26pursue a man
14:27at the gym
14:27five months
14:28after marriage
14:28if you truly loved me.
14:30That's not love.
14:31Sorry.
14:32Even to the day,
14:33you treat me
14:34like garbage,
14:34you know,
14:35you have always
14:35treated me bad.
14:37God, victim, victim,
14:38victim.
14:38Shut up.
14:38No, no,
14:39I'm not your victim.
14:40Guys.
14:44Matt,
14:44do you have
14:45any final words
14:46for Jasmine?
14:48I love her
14:50and I care for her.
14:52Whether we're together
14:53or not,
14:53I still care for her.
14:54So I'll always be there
14:56to support her,
14:57you know?
14:57I'm happy
14:58and I think it's going
14:59in the right direction.
15:03Matt,
15:04we're very glad
15:04we had a chance
15:05to get to know you
15:06a little bit better today.
15:07Thank you very much
15:09for joining us.
15:09I know this was
15:10not very easy.
15:12We wish you
15:12the very best
15:13on becoming
15:14a new father.
15:15I appreciate you.
15:18Gino,
15:21we haven't talked
15:22about your side
15:23of the open marriage
15:25and whether you
15:27have been intimate
15:28with anyone.
15:29Have you?
15:34I have not
15:35been intimate
15:36with anyone
15:37since,
15:38well,
15:39in the open marriage
15:40or even since
15:41we got back
15:41from couples there.
15:42Jasmine,
15:44do you
15:45regret committing
15:47to this idea
15:48of having
15:48an open marriage?
15:54I regret everything.
15:57I think that
15:58I should have been
16:00bravest before
16:01and I should have
16:02just when
16:03when I knew
16:04that I wasn't
16:06being happy
16:06and
16:07it was not
16:08what I expected
16:09when I moved
16:10to America
16:10I think that
16:11I should have
16:13had the courage
16:13just to pack
16:14my bags
16:15and go back
16:15to Panama.
16:18I just wish
16:19I could take
16:19time back
16:20and
16:21when I was
16:22not happy
16:23in my marriage
16:24not being treated
16:25right
16:25not receiving
16:27affection
16:28sex
16:28whatever.
16:29You weren't
16:30treating me right
16:30that's why
16:31I wasn't affectionate.
16:32Or I wasn't
16:32being enough.
16:34I wasn't
16:35being good enough
16:35for you,
16:36Gino.
16:36I should have
16:38just like
16:39instead of
16:40perpetuating
16:41this
16:41you know
16:42prolonging
16:42this
16:43nightmare
16:43and this
16:44torture
16:44I should have
16:45just left.
16:50Therapy
16:51cannot fix
16:51everything
16:52and that
16:52my marriage
16:53was done.
16:57Well
16:58Gino
16:59and Jasmine
16:59thank you
17:00so much
17:01for opening
17:01up tonight.
17:02I know
17:02this is a
17:03very difficult
17:04situation
17:05to navigate.
17:05we wish
17:06you the
17:07best
17:08as you
17:08both
17:08move on.
17:09Thanks.
17:10Thank you
17:10Sean.
17:11I appreciate
17:11it.
17:13So
17:13before we
17:14conclude
17:14we've got
17:15one more
17:16very important
17:16group of
17:17people to
17:17talk with.
17:18Your
17:18therapist
17:19provided
17:20wonderful
17:20insights
17:21throughout
17:21the season.
17:22They've
17:22been watching
17:23backstage
17:23this whole
17:24time
17:25and I
17:25want to
17:25bring
17:25them
17:26out
17:26to
17:26get
17:26their
17:26thoughts.
17:28Please
17:28welcome
17:29James,
17:30Heidi,
17:31and
17:31Reba.
17:32Hi there.
17:34Hi guys.
17:35Nice to meet
17:44you.
17:45Hi.
17:45How are
17:45you?
17:46Well,
17:47you have
17:47been listening
17:48to the
17:48conversation.
17:49Have we ever?
17:50Yes.
17:51Have you ever?
17:53Do you
17:54look at these
17:54couples as
17:55being successful
17:56in finding out
17:57what they
17:58actually wanted
17:59in a
17:59relationship?
18:00Oh Reba,
18:01you kind of
18:01like turned
18:02your head
18:02like,
18:03oh I
18:03don't know.
18:04I think
18:04so.
18:05I think
18:05that there
18:07was a
18:07lot of
18:08wanting to
18:09do what
18:10they felt
18:10was right
18:11but not
18:12really listening
18:13to their
18:13internal
18:13compass.
18:14Yeah.
18:15And I
18:15think it's
18:16really easy
18:16to point
18:17fingers
18:17and I
18:18think we
18:19saw that
18:19and we
18:19have seen
18:20that today
18:21but I
18:21still think
18:22that at
18:22the end
18:22of the
18:23day they
18:23saw that
18:23the problems
18:24were still
18:25there
18:25and that's
18:26where this
18:27has led
18:27them today
18:28that it's
18:28important that
18:29they move
18:29forward and
18:30find their
18:30own personal
18:31journeys whether
18:32they wanted
18:33to stay in
18:33their marriage
18:34whether they
18:34wanted something
18:35else or that
18:36they wanted
18:36to be single
18:37and I think
18:38that in itself
18:39is growth
18:40and if you
18:41can walk away
18:41with growth
18:42you've succeeded
18:43already in the
18:44first step.
18:45Okay,
18:46well some of
18:47our couples
18:48have decided
18:49to separate.
18:50There are a
18:50few I'd still
18:51like to ask
18:52you three about.
18:53How surprised
18:54are you at
18:55where Gino
18:56and Jasmine
18:56are today?
18:58We were
18:59very surprised.
18:59Obviously
19:00we were surprised
19:01at Jasmine's
19:02newest revelation
19:03right?
19:04But I don't
19:05think any of
19:05us were
19:06surprised
19:06about how
19:08the end
19:09result of
19:10pursuing
19:11an open
19:11marriage
19:12came out.
19:13I think
19:13against my
19:14professional
19:15and personal
19:15advice
19:16they rushed
19:17into a
19:18situation
19:19neither of
19:20them was
19:21really comfortable
19:21with and
19:22we see
19:23what happens
19:23when we rush
19:24into things
19:24that are
19:25really complicated
19:26and really
19:26difficult.
19:28So Reba,
19:29if a couple
19:30decides to
19:31go into
19:32an open
19:32marriage
19:33it should
19:34not be
19:34if your
19:35marriage
19:36already
19:36is broken.
19:38A hundred
19:39percent and
19:39I think
19:40that's what
19:40I was trying
19:40to convey
19:41to Jasmine
19:42when we had
19:42this conversation.
19:43As a polyamorous
19:44person I want
19:46people to know
19:47like this is
19:47serious.
19:48Like this is
19:49not oh let's
19:51you know slap a
19:51band-aid on our
19:52broken marriage
19:53because now
19:54you're bringing
19:54other people
19:55into this
19:56broken situation.
19:58Was that
19:58explained to
19:59them before
20:00they started?
20:00No.
20:00I was just
20:01going to ask
20:01no one really
20:02told me.
20:03How do you know?
20:04So I knew
20:04so I never
20:05told to Gino
20:06never tell to us.
20:07He's going to tell
20:07everything.
20:08I don't remember
20:08anyone saying to
20:09me Gino this
20:10is not a good
20:11idea you
20:11shouldn't do
20:12this open
20:12marriage.
20:13I don't
20:13recall anyone
20:14telling me
20:15that.
20:15Yeah so it's
20:16not my job
20:17to tell you
20:17what you should
20:18and shouldn't do.
20:19Look the product.
20:20You ruined
20:23her marriage.
20:25I think it's
20:26really easy to
20:27point fingers.
20:27No sweetheart
20:28let me speak.
20:30Coming up
20:31you need to
20:32totally stop
20:32with this
20:33like
20:33disrespectful
20:34attitude
20:35towards everybody.
20:35They're trained
20:36therapists.
20:36They're trying
20:37to help us.
20:38Only things
20:38I don't believe
20:39in therapy.
20:40I was there
20:41I saw everything
20:41and I saw it
20:42you need to
20:43stop
20:43monster.
20:44You ruined
20:53her marriage.
20:54I think it's
20:55really easy
20:56to point fingers.
20:57I talk to you
20:58guys about
20:59what's required.
21:00I talk to you
21:01about the
21:02conversations that
21:03need to be had
21:04the agreements
21:04that need to be
21:05made and the
21:06trust that needs
21:07to be there
21:08for you guys
21:08to walk down
21:09this path.
21:11Jasmine you're
21:12nodding your head.
21:13Do you agree?
21:15Reba was
21:16100% clear.
21:18So I take
21:19accountability
21:20because I was
21:21explained this.
21:23I was not
21:24blindfolded
21:25and to just
21:26come because
21:27I'm polyamorous
21:27and it works
21:29for my marriage
21:29it's going to
21:30work for you.
21:30That was never
21:31never ever
21:33said by Reba.
21:35We decided
21:36to walk in
21:37through this.
21:37It didn't work
21:38and it's our
21:39fault.
21:40Period.
21:41Just saying
21:41yes to the
21:42open marriage.
21:43That was
21:44the biggest
21:45mistake ever.
21:47Wow.
21:49I think
21:50that's true.
21:51Yeah.
21:52All right.
21:53Let's move on.
21:55What do you
21:55think about
21:56Natalie and
21:57Josh?
21:58They think
21:58as we're
21:59moving forward
21:59we need to
22:00have clear
22:00boundaries for
22:01ourselves.
22:02My desire
22:03to have
22:03family and
22:04my boundaries
22:04is more
22:04important than
22:05my attraction.
22:07Fatal attraction
22:07to you.
22:08I can see
22:10with Natalie
22:10that she's
22:11made some
22:11strides and
22:12I hear the
22:13work that
22:13she's trying
22:13to do.
22:14That said
22:15I would love
22:16to see her
22:16continue to
22:17gain tools
22:18to help her
22:19ground herself
22:20to help her
22:21be able to
22:22cope when
22:23she's in
22:24these intense
22:24situations or
22:25even just
22:26everyday situations
22:27where we need
22:29to emotionally
22:29regulate.
22:30often times
22:31our brain
22:31wants to
22:32release these
22:32chemicals.
22:33The cortisol
22:33gets built up
22:34and we want
22:34to scream,
22:35shout,
22:35we may want
22:36to punch
22:37something,
22:37hit a couch,
22:38throw a shoe,
22:38whatever it
22:39may be.
22:39That was me.
22:41And so
22:41the idea is
22:42if in that
22:43moment I can
22:44catch myself
22:44to get myself
22:45centered and
22:46grounded so I
22:47can speak to
22:48you in a calm
22:48collected way
22:49to get my
22:50point across.
22:51So we do
22:51have completely
22:52opposite
22:52temperaments.
22:54He's very
22:54calm,
22:56down to earth,
22:57laid back,
22:57and my energy
22:58just distracts
23:00him because
23:00he likes
23:00everything in
23:01order.
23:02And that's
23:02why we're
23:03a little bit
23:03incompatible
23:04even though
23:05we love each
23:05other.
23:06But how can
23:07we survive
23:08together being
23:09so different?
23:10Well, I think
23:11that's where you
23:12came to the
23:12place where
23:13you are now,
23:13right?
23:14As much as
23:15you may be
23:15attracted to
23:15certain qualities,
23:17clearly these
23:17other components
23:19of the
23:19relationship
23:19became unhealthy
23:20for the two
23:21of you.
23:22Absolutely,
23:23yeah.
23:24We do need
23:25to just cut
23:26it off.
23:28Okay, let's
23:29talk about
23:29Stacey.
23:30and Florian.
23:31Obviously,
23:32still a lot
23:33of issues
23:34to navigate.
23:35Trust is one
23:36of them.
23:37What advice
23:38would you have
23:38for them
23:39as they move
23:39forward in
23:40their relationship?
23:41Well, I think
23:42before we get
23:43to advice,
23:43I think one
23:44thing I want
23:44to note is
23:45that Stacey
23:46came into
23:47this wanting
23:48help for
23:49her marriage.
23:50And I know
23:50Florian was
23:51clear with that.
23:52He didn't
23:52believe in
23:53therapy.
23:53So right
23:54from the start,
23:55he was shutting
23:55this process
23:56down.
23:56I think
23:57that they
23:57fall into
23:58a parent-child
24:00role a lot.
24:02And we
24:03definitely
24:04thought that
24:05she...
24:06One second,
24:07please.
24:08We definitely
24:08see that
24:10it's not an
24:11equal balance
24:12there.
24:12Florian needs
24:13to step up.
24:14And he hasn't
24:15at this point.
24:16And Stacey
24:17has to allow
24:18him to step
24:19up.
24:20Stacey is my
24:21mom, basically,
24:21saying?
24:21Um, not
24:22your mom.
24:23She's acting
24:24in the role
24:25as such.
24:26It's yours
24:26in the role
24:26my mom, huh?
24:27A mom.
24:28My mom,
24:29basically.
24:29A mom.
24:30Yeah, I
24:30see a different
24:31way.
24:32Okay, however
24:32you want to
24:33see it.
24:34Why do you
24:35say like
24:35Stacey,
24:35like, for what
24:36Stacey teach
24:37me, like,
24:37like, like
24:38a sign of
24:38what the
24:39hell you're
24:39saying?
24:40You know,
24:40here, let me
24:41stop.
24:41Florian.
24:41No, no, no,
24:41no, no,
24:41stay far away,
24:43please.
24:43No, no,
24:43no, no,
24:44start far away.
24:46No, no,
24:46enough, Stacey.
24:46Have some
24:47respect for
24:48them.
24:49Ari, go
24:50sleep, please.
24:51One second,
24:52ma'am.
24:52Yes,
24:52can someone
24:54stop him,
24:55please?
24:55One second.
24:55Go sleep,
24:56go sleep.
24:57They're trying
24:57to explain it,
24:58so let them
24:58explain so you
24:59understand.
25:00I'm hearing
25:00her.
25:01I treat
25:02Stacey, my
25:02kid, is
25:03opposite direction,
25:04ma'am.
25:06Can I give
25:06a description?
25:08Is that okay
25:09with you?
25:09Speak.
25:10Florian, it's
25:11used to describe
25:13kind of just a
25:14general dynamic
25:15that happens.
25:16Let's say you
25:16guys may flip-flop
25:17roles.
25:18How about that?
25:19Oftentimes, one
25:20may be a parent,
25:21one may be a
25:21child, but what
25:22we're trying to
25:23say is when
25:23you're in this
25:24dynamic, it
25:25kind of takes
25:25out the romantic
25:26piece, right?
25:27Because you
25:28have to...
25:29Yes, but teach
25:31her to explain
25:31things.
25:32Teach her to...
25:32I think she does
25:33an amazing job,
25:34but listen...
25:35A synthetic
25:36narcissist.
25:37Florian, show
25:37respect, please.
25:38I'm going to
25:38talk...
25:39Enough.
25:39Enough.
25:40Here's the case
25:41with therapy.
25:43I stay...
25:44He doesn't get
25:46it.
25:46This is
25:47impossible.
25:49Wow.
25:51How embarrassing.
25:52Total disrespect.
25:54I can't deal with this
25:55anymore.
25:56I can't deal with this
26:06anymore.
26:08Poor Stacy.
26:08She's so nice.
26:09It's f***ing normal.
26:11He's so thick-headed.
26:12Is it something
26:13specifically...
26:14It's just...
26:14He's thick-headed
26:15in the way he's
26:15talking to people.
26:16It's totally
26:17disrespectful.
26:18He talks about
26:19wanting respect.
26:20Well, he needs to
26:20give respect.
26:22He needs to sit there.
26:22He needs to listen.
26:23He needs to get
26:24educated.
26:25And he needs to
26:25just f***ing shut
26:27the f*** up.
26:28The thing is, anger
26:28is a protective
26:29emotion, and we
26:30see a lot of
26:31anger...
26:32Well, what anger,
26:33Mariba?
26:33What anger?
26:34What anger,
26:35Mariba?
26:35What anger?
26:36Look at what you
26:36told me.
26:37Right here.
26:37Right here.
26:37I'm speaking the truth.
26:39I'm not going to
26:39tolerate this.
26:39I'm speaking the truth.
26:40I'm not going to
26:41tolerate this.
26:42No, this is
26:42impossible.
26:44Wasting my time here.
26:45Let's put some
26:45energy into your
26:46marriage.
26:48I'm a less
26:48retarded.
26:49Care about your
26:50wife.
26:52Disgusting.
26:54Disrespectful and rude.
26:54I mean, this is what
26:56happens when we see
26:57people getting
26:57triggered.
26:58Yeah?
26:58Yeah.
26:59So disrespectful.
27:03You need to
27:04stop.
27:05You need to
27:05totally stop with
27:06this, like,
27:07disrespectful attitude
27:08towards everybody.
27:09They're trained
27:09therapists.
27:10They're educated.
27:10Like, they're
27:11trying to help
27:11us.
27:12But you're
27:13very aggressive
27:14and you're
27:14very scary the
27:15way you talk.
27:16Me scary?
27:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:17Stop the f***ing
27:18eyes in the f***ing
27:19air.
27:19I'm not scary.
27:20Monster.
27:21Only things that
27:22I don't believe
27:23in therapy.
27:23Only things is,
27:24like, no,
27:24like a death
27:25and, like,
27:25jumping in me,
27:26like, boom.
27:27I was there.
27:27I saw everything.
27:28I don't need you
27:30to school me.
27:31I saw it since.
27:32You need to
27:32stop.
27:35Are Stacy
27:36and Florian
27:37coming back in?
27:38Hey, Sean,
27:39we're working
27:39on getting back.
27:42Listen,
27:42moving forward,
27:44moving forward,
27:44you've got to
27:45stop with this
27:45f***ing aggression.
27:46Let me start,
27:47not me.
27:47I don't really
27:48want to, like,
27:49f***ing go
27:50home with you
27:50like this.
27:51Let me smoke
27:51one cigar, please.
27:52Yeah, go, go,
27:53go, smoke your
27:54cigar like you
27:54always do.
27:55You know,
27:55you said you were
27:56going to quit.
27:56You're a liar.
27:59Telling me
27:59I have anger
28:00issues that
28:01never tell me
28:02in last resort.
28:03Never, never,
28:03never, never.
28:04Never say nothing.
28:07Do you have anger
28:07issues?
28:08Huh?
28:08Do you have anger
28:09issues?
28:09No, I don't have,
28:10I'm sorry,
28:10but no anger,
28:11no nothing.
28:11Stop pissing me off.
28:12Leave me alone.
28:15Welcome back,
28:16Stacy.
28:17So sorry.
28:19I'm so sorry,
28:20you guys.
28:20I don't apologize.
28:23It's okay.
28:24You did amazing.
28:25I had to walk away
28:26to just, like,
28:27shift the energy.
28:27I just,
28:28it's okay.
28:28I'm sorry.
28:29It's okay.
28:29You didn't deserve that.
28:30I don't apologize.
28:31You don't need to apologize.
28:32It's okay, guys.
28:32That was, like,
28:34my last straw.
28:34Not on you, hon.
28:35Don't worry about it.
28:36Unreievable.
28:39Sorry.
28:40You okay, Stacy?
28:41Yeah, I'll be fine.
28:43I just,
28:44I'm really upset
28:44the way he's reacting.
28:46It's uncalled for
28:46and unacceptable.
28:50Stacy,
28:50stop doing that
28:51if you can
28:52because it's not yours
28:53to clean up.
28:54Okay.
28:54Where do I go from here?
28:56I don't know what to do.
28:58You should go to therapy.
29:00Okay.
29:00Yes, you should.
29:01Calm down.
29:02Take care of your mental health.
29:04Yes, thank you.
29:05I will.
29:07Okay.
29:07Well,
29:08Reba,
29:09James,
29:09and Heidi,
29:10thank you so much.
29:11I know this was a lot
29:12of work for you
29:12and we appreciate
29:14all the effort
29:15that you put
29:16into helping
29:17our couples
29:18really understand
29:19what they need
29:20in a relationship.
29:21So thank you very much.
29:24We love you.
29:26We love you.
29:27Yeah.
29:27Regardless.
29:28Bye, guys.
29:28Bye.
29:29Bye.
29:29Bye.
29:30Bye.
29:31Bye-bye.
29:32Thank you for everything.
29:36Well,
29:37it seems like
29:38Florian is not coming back,
29:40but we do need
29:41to wrap things up.
29:42We have come
29:43to the end
29:44of 90 Day,
29:45the last resort,
29:46the couples tell all.
29:48I want to thank
29:48all of the couples
29:49for participating tonight
29:50and for allowing us
29:52to join them
29:52on their last resort journeys.
29:55I hope to see you all
29:56again very soon.
29:57Until next time,
29:58I'm Shawn Robinson.
30:00Have a great evening.
30:03Thank you, Shawn.
30:03Bye-bye.
30:04Thank you, Shawn.
30:06Bye-bye.
30:06Thank you, my love.
30:09You're good?
30:12I'll be fine.
30:13Okay.
30:13Yeah.
30:15You know,
30:15I'm very disappointed
30:17about Florian lashing out.
30:20I just feel like
30:20he needs to learn
30:22to tone it down
30:23and find a way
30:24to voice it
30:25in a professional manner.
30:26It's unacceptable,
30:28and I'm not taking this anymore.
30:35Hello?
30:36Hey.
30:36Hey.
30:37Oh, it's so good to see you.
30:42Yeah, I changed you a little.
30:44A little?
30:46Look at you.
30:47Oh, I know.
30:49Oh, you're glowing.
30:52Look, I just wanted
30:54to talk to you.
30:55I know that this has
30:56been a hard day.
30:59Very tough.
31:00Yeah.
31:01I don't feel like
31:02I had an opportunity
31:03to say my part of the story.
31:05It was just like
31:06as soon as I sat,
31:07I was just crucified
31:08and, like,
31:10accused of cheating.
31:11Let them think
31:12what they want.
31:13Let them have
31:15their opinions.
31:16Okay?
31:18This is about
31:19your freedom.
31:20It's like everybody
31:21is making me feel
31:22like I'm the worst
31:23human being on earth.
31:24Like,
31:25like, I basically, like,
31:26pushed, you know,
31:27to have this open marriage.
31:28Like,
31:28it was not my,
31:29my sole decision.
31:31We made this decision
31:32as a marriage.
31:33It worked for two weeks.
31:35Reba, he was in
31:36a better space mentally.
31:37We were not arguing.
31:38It was working.
31:40Jasmine, you know
31:40what I see?
31:41I see that you
31:42and Gino
31:43are both hurting right now.
31:45What hurts me the most
31:46is, like,
31:47I don't hate him.
31:49Like,
31:49I still care about him.
31:52I was telling him,
31:53like,
31:53you don't get
31:54to this country
31:55and I wanted
31:56to live this dream
31:57with you.
31:57Yeah.
31:58Like,
31:59I wish this baby
32:00was your,
32:00you know,
32:01it's so cruel
32:02to say it's so low,
32:03but,
32:03like,
32:04that's how I feel.
32:06I wanted to live
32:06this with you,
32:07not with anybody else.
32:09I didn't put myself,
32:10I didn't premeditate
32:11in this.
32:12How would I want
32:13to put myself
32:14in this situation?
32:15Look at how
32:15everybody's treating me.
32:17Yes.
32:17You know your truth,
32:19Jasmine,
32:19and what's needed
32:20right now,
32:21what you need,
32:23is what this baby needs,
32:24and that's to protect
32:25your peace.
32:27Focus on you
32:28and your family
32:29and your baby,
32:31because that is
32:32who needs you
32:33to be strong right now.
32:35Okay?
32:36And you have to focus
32:38on what you need.
32:41Okay?
32:41Now, come here.
32:50Coming up.
32:51I don't have to make jokes
32:52all the time.
32:53This is our life.
32:55This is my life, too.
32:56Like, it's not a joke.
32:57Like, does this ring
32:58mean anything to you?
32:59Stace,
33:00stop fucking like...
33:01I ain't putting up
33:02with ****.
33:03What the **** is that?
33:10You good?
33:12Oh, you know.
33:13It's okay.
33:13Hmm?
33:14Just trying to process
33:15everything.
33:16Yeah, I know this.
33:16I don't know where
33:17all this anger
33:17is coming from, though.
33:18Like, I don't know.
33:20It's some deep-rooted
33:21issue for him
33:23to just always...
33:24I get it.
33:25He wants to protect
33:26and defend.
33:28Seriously.
33:29Hey!
33:33Yeah.
33:33I'm not just like you.
33:39I don't know
33:39if that's therapy.
33:40That's...
33:41I believe that's, like,
33:42more of a priest.
33:43Like, that's my...
33:44My culture is...
33:45Talk to a priest.
33:47You can go to confession
33:48and go to church
33:49and talk to a priest.
33:50So it's something
33:51maybe the bottles
33:52that you can connect
33:52with, you know?
33:54I agree with a better idea.
33:57And these people...
33:59I mean, come on now.
34:00I don't have to make jokes
34:01all the time.
34:01No, I'm sure I'm not
34:01making jokes
34:02or at least have a...
34:03This is serious.
34:03This is our life.
34:04This is my life, too.
34:05Like, it's not a joke.
34:07Like, your demeanor.
34:08It's just...
34:08I don't want to live
34:09the rest of my life.
34:10I don't even know.
34:12We're just going to keep
34:13going in circles
34:13and circles and circles.
34:14Just...
34:15calm down.
34:17I'm calm down.
34:18I'm very good.
34:18I'm sure about that.
34:19Maybe you should go to Albania
34:20for a little bit.
34:22Me and you, yeah.
34:23No better idea.
34:24Maybe you go for a little bit.
34:25I don't know.
34:29What the f*** is that?
34:31Like, does this ring
34:32mean anything to you?
34:33It stays.
34:34It's not fucking, like...
34:35It's not a freaking joke.
34:37I ain't putting up with this.
34:44I mean, you never know.
34:45I might take a note
34:46out of Sophie's book
34:47and just...
34:49do my own thing
34:49for a while.
34:51Is Florian gonna be
34:51okay with that?
34:54I don't know.
34:56But, uh...
34:56I have to do
34:57what's right for me.
35:01Hey, anybody got any bags?
35:04Bags, bags.
35:05Trash bag.
35:06I wanted really badly
35:08to be able to
35:09get through this tell-all
35:11without Sophie and I
35:12at each other's throats.
35:13but it's very evident
35:14that Sophie will never
35:16be a good partner for me
35:18because she cannot
35:19and will not
35:20forget any of the past
35:22and she will always
35:23have whatever in her pocket
35:25to try to say
35:25that it's just
35:26wild to make me look
35:27like I'm invalid.
35:30Whenever I decide
35:31to speak up about
35:32some of the actual
35:32that I went through
35:34while we were together,
35:35Sophie starts saying
35:36outlandish wild
35:37it's like her go-to
35:39immediately.
35:40She knows how to
35:41make herself look good.
35:43She knows how to make
35:43whoever she wants
35:44to look bad.
35:46I'll be filing for divorce
35:47sooner than later,
35:48especially after today.
35:49Even though today
35:52went terrible,
35:53I don't hate him.
35:55It's just reminded me
35:56like I cannot
35:57go back to that.
35:58I am happy without him
35:59and I'm going to
36:00continue this journey.
36:02Maybe one day
36:02he'll look back
36:03and realize the reality.
36:05It was like
36:05he did push me away.
36:07I hope he does
36:07realize that one day.
36:08Probably not, but...
36:10Hi, my love.
36:15Hi!
36:15Before you leave,
36:17I want to give you
36:18something.
36:19For Coco!
36:21For Coco!
36:22I love it!
36:24Look at it!
36:27It's for the baby.
36:28No, that's for Coco.
36:29For Coco, okay.
36:30For Coco, for Coco.
36:31Do I agree
36:32with this open marriage?
36:34I will say honest,
36:35no, I disagree.
36:36Okay, I love you.
36:37I love you.
36:38See you soon.
36:39Oh, oh, oh.
36:41I love you so much.
36:42Did I want root
36:43for Jasmine happiness?
36:45Yes, I am.
36:46Bye, Jasmine!
36:48Bye!
36:48Love you!
36:49Oh, boy.
36:51That was what I...
36:51Can I say goodbye?
36:53Bye.
36:54Your baby's gonna be
36:55so beautiful.
36:56I love you.
36:56I'm gonna take care.
36:59Very proud of you, too.
37:00God bless you,
37:00the baby.
37:01We're always here for you.
37:02We wish you
37:02the happiness in the world.
37:04I'm just glad
37:05that this is over.
37:09Bye!
37:09Bye!
37:10Bye!
37:10Bye!
37:10Bye!
37:11I know that
37:11what's coming
37:12is a lot of...
37:15a lot of judgment
37:17for me.
37:20And I don't want
37:22all this negativity
37:24surrounding me
37:25to affect
37:25like the miracle
37:27that I'm living right now.
37:28So,
37:29that's what is
37:30in my future.
37:32Prepare to
37:33receive my baby.
37:35And I'm still married
37:36to Gino,
37:36so it's very confusing.
37:42I'm gonna see you...
37:44I mean,
37:44I think it's time
37:45whatever it is.
37:45If you're gonna be
37:46in Virginia...
37:47Here's the snacks.
37:48Here comes a few months.
37:48Oh, yeah.
37:49For me,
37:50I'm not gonna sit back
37:51and cry about Jasmine
37:52and how she broke my heart.
37:54I'm gonna move forward
37:54in my life.
37:55I am gonna start
37:56talking to women
37:58and start dating again.
37:59I'm gonna change my hands.
38:01I'm gonna find someone
38:03that's a great fit for me
38:04and that's we can communicate,
38:06get along,
38:07and be happy together.
38:09I learned a lesson
38:10from this whole relationship
38:11and I'm never gonna get myself
38:15in that situation again.
38:19How are you?
38:20Yeah.
38:20Hey.
38:21Hey.
38:21How are you?
38:22How are you?
38:24I'm gonna take a bite here.
38:24See you later.
38:26See you later.
38:27Just, uh, yeah.
38:28We can keep communicating.
38:33Technically,
38:34me and her,
38:34we're divorcing.
38:35We're not on the paperwork.
38:37But, uh,
38:38I want to move on
38:39and then
38:40we need,
38:41I want to work
38:41on it, like,
38:42with our co-parents.
38:44We have a birthday
38:45with our, you know.
38:46Yeah?
38:46I see you later.
38:47Yeah?
38:47Yeah.
38:48If we,
38:48anything, yes.
38:50Uh, we need
38:50more communicators.
38:53Okay.
38:57I think Vinny's
38:58done a lot of things
38:58that hurt me.
38:59Sometimes on purpose,
39:00sometimes not on purpose.
39:02But we are parents
39:03to our sons,
39:04so as long as Vinny
39:05is a good father to Avi,
39:06then we will have
39:07a decent relationship.
39:10I'm ready for the future.
39:12I feel like
39:13the best part of my life
39:14hasn't happened yet.
39:15Me and Josh's relationship
39:20that we had
39:21was not good.
39:23And I find out
39:24he has a girl.
39:25I have no idea.
39:28What the f***?
39:32Bye, Nia.
39:33Bye.
39:34Have a safe life.
39:35Back here, too.
39:36I'm done with him.
39:38How can you be not done
39:39after all this f***?
39:41It's just pitties
39:42that it's been so ugly.
39:43I gave up on Josh,
39:45but I never gave up
39:46on child and family.
39:47I tell you that.
39:49So I'm probably gonna
39:50go dating
39:51and see how it goes.
39:55I need to find
39:55something to put
39:56some of that stuff in
39:57because I didn't bring this.
39:58How much stuff you got?
39:59Put it in that zipper belt.
40:03It's because I'm a dad.
40:05I know this f***.
40:06I mean,
40:06I would have figured it out.
40:06I don't know.
40:08Robert,
40:08you need to clean up your room.
40:11That's crazy.
40:11Things got pretty heated today.
40:14Felt like I lost my cool
40:15a little bit,
40:16you know,
40:16but I feel
40:18like I'm free from Natalie
40:20and I feel
40:21like a million pounds lighter.
40:23You did it, my friend.
40:25You did something.
40:26Hearing Jen talk today
40:28just kind of like
40:29assured me a little bit more
40:30that, you know,
40:31maybe I am making
40:31the right decision
40:32as far as the type of girl
40:33that I need to be with.
40:35I mean,
40:36I'll always have a place
40:38for Natalie in my heart.
40:39We've had some great memories
40:40and some good moments
40:41and some terrible moments,
40:43but I do wish her happiness.
40:45A lot more happened today
40:53than I was expecting.
40:55I would say our relationship
40:56is in a better place,
40:57but I do want to get Julia
40:59on track with
40:59this second opinion
41:01on having kids.
41:03You know,
41:03I'm trying to get
41:04an appointment made.
41:06Brandon drives me f***ing crazy,
41:08but I'm glad
41:09I have my voice
41:10to our relationship.
41:12I feel like
41:12all this situation
41:13helped me.
41:14Don't forget your ears.
41:16Okay.
41:17The ears.
41:19I can hear everything.
41:20We're working on
41:21holding up my end
41:22of the bargain,
41:22getting her parents here.
41:23I still strongly
41:24feel against it,
41:25but as long as she's
41:26going to keep going
41:26down this road with me
41:27and make good
41:29on her promise
41:29of starting a family,
41:31that's all
41:32that's going to make me happy.
41:37You going to change?
41:38No, no, I'm going to change.
41:39The ball.
41:41Today was a lot,
41:42and I don't think
41:43it ended
41:44in a way
41:46we all thought.
41:47I mean,
41:48I'm kind of walking away
41:49a little confused,
41:50and I don't really know
41:52what our future holds.
41:54Me and Stace
41:55have the best relationship,
41:56and that is
41:57clear.
41:58We're living here
41:59the most happy.
42:03Let's go home.
42:05Do you want to give up?
42:06I'm always the one
42:09to say,
42:10like, never give up.
42:14It's a tough question
42:15right now to answer,
42:17but I'm tired of people
42:20mistaking my kindness
42:21for weakness.
42:22I'm a fighter,
42:23and I know
42:24Florian loves me,
42:25and I love him,
42:26but is love enough?
42:29I love him,
42:29but is love enough?
42:29I love him,
42:30but is love enough?
42:31I love him,
42:31but is love enough?
42:32I love him,
42:32but is love enough?
42:33I love him,
42:33but is love enough?
42:34I love him,
42:34but is love enough?
42:35I love him,
42:35but is love enough?
42:36I love him,
42:36but is love enough?
42:36I love him,
42:36but is love enough?
42:36I love him,
42:37but is love enough?
42:37I love him,
42:38but is love enough?
42:38I love him,
42:39but is love enough?