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00:00:00British establishment is not to be underestimated, you know.
00:00:03They are somehow, in some way that is not clear and not disclosed,
00:00:10they still have disproportionate power.
00:00:12IDF. IDF is disintegrating.
00:00:17People are refusing to serve.
00:00:19Active duty soldiers are absolutely exhausted, demoralized.
00:00:23Unless they were attacked by an external enemy,
00:00:26and then everybody says, it's war, let's go.
00:00:30We have to defend ourselves.
00:00:32Unless that happens, I don't even see how Israel survives.
00:00:37I think you do have to pay attention to Russia and China.
00:00:40As much as Trump says about China,
00:00:44or as much as he talks about them ripping us off,
00:00:46and you have the trade and tariff wars,
00:00:47and they're doing a lot of damage,
00:00:50people always got to remember that Trump always does say,
00:00:52I get along with Putin, I get along with Xi.
00:00:54He doesn't say that about the Europeans.
00:00:59When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes a duty.
00:01:07So said Thomas Jefferson.
00:01:08Go to bit.ly slash lawful tax protest,
00:01:11or bit.ly slash make war history,
00:01:14and find out why it is a criminal offense
00:01:16to pay central government or local government taxes in the UK.
00:01:20And let's make war history.
00:01:22Hey Alex, hey Alex.
00:01:23This is very easy and also very confusing,
00:01:26because I only need to remember one name.
00:01:31But I don't know which one I'm talking to.
00:01:32Thank you so much, both of you, for making yourself available.
00:01:35I'll start with you, Mr. Christoforou.
00:01:37You are half of the Duran.
00:01:39Yes.
00:01:40Yes, thank you so much for making yourself available.
00:01:43Thank you for having me on.
00:01:44You're so welcome.
00:01:45And Mr. Craner, you are all of the Naked Hedgy,
00:01:48all by yourself.
00:01:49That's true.
00:01:50Thank you for having me also.
00:01:51Good to join you.
00:01:52And warm greetings from Monaco to everyone out there.
00:01:56Yes, thank you.
00:01:56And I've been trying to get both of you together for a while,
00:01:59and we finally, finally made it work for our schedules.
00:02:02Mr. Christoforou, do you want to say a little bit about the Duran,
00:02:04and where people can find you,
00:02:05and who you are, and what you are, and why you are?
00:02:07We're a geopolitical news channel.
00:02:11You can find us on every platform, to be quite honest,
00:02:15from YouTube to Telegram to Odyssey, Rumble,
00:02:20locals, theduran.locals.com.
00:02:23You can find the Duran channel, my channel, Alex Christoforou,
00:02:27and Alexander Mercurius' channel as well.
00:02:29Yep.
00:02:30Thank you so much,
00:02:31and I'll have the links to something in the description below.
00:02:33I think the locals, probably.
00:02:36Yeah, and you are a little bit English and understated
00:02:39when you say, oh, we're a geopolitical channel.
00:02:42No, you are sublimely insightful geopolitical channel.
00:02:47Yeah, we try.
00:02:49We do really, really well, both you and Alexander.
00:02:52Mr. Cranor.
00:02:55Yes, people can find me on X.
00:02:57My handle is at Naked Hedgie.
00:03:00I have two publications on Substack.
00:03:03Personal one, Alex Kiner Substack,
00:03:07and the professional one,
00:03:09which is called iSystemtrendFollowing.
00:03:12And then there's others,
00:03:13but these three are where I'm most active.
00:03:16Yeah.
00:03:16Apart from appearing on lots of,
00:03:20on guesting on many, many other channels
00:03:22with your fabulous analysis and everything.
00:03:24Yes, still don't know how to say no.
00:03:26We should just sign an exclusive contract
00:03:30that you're running here on Crypto Rich, right?
00:03:32And you do a trend-following service
00:03:35where people can,
00:03:36I think it's an algorithm or something
00:03:38that you designed and have been using
00:03:39for many, many years
00:03:40that shows what the trends are.
00:03:41Yes, it's a model that I designed in 1999
00:03:45and then built it up
00:03:46to a professional version in 2003.
00:03:48I've been using it ever since.
00:03:50I used it as a hedge fund manager
00:03:51and now I use it
00:03:54as a decision support service
00:03:56for investors and traders.
00:03:58And I publish a variety of newsletters
00:04:01on a daily basis,
00:04:01on the basis of this.
00:04:04Yeah.
00:04:04Yeah.
00:04:04And this includes also,
00:04:05I think it's very affordable
00:04:07and I have the links to that
00:04:08in the description below
00:04:09if people want to go and check it out
00:04:11and take a look
00:04:11because it's also for small investors.
00:04:13You don't have to be a hedge fund
00:04:14in order to,
00:04:16or, you know, big pockets.
00:04:17Yeah, it starts less than Starbucks.
00:04:19Less than the Starbucks.
00:04:20Less than Starbucks.
00:04:21Okay.
00:04:22All right.
00:04:22Very good.
00:04:23Okay.
00:04:25Where shall we start?
00:04:27I will propose something
00:04:28that maybe you don't know
00:04:30much about both of you
00:04:31because you haven't been following it
00:04:32and then we can move on
00:04:33to something else
00:04:33if that's the case.
00:04:34And this is regarding
00:04:35Keir Starmer
00:04:37or Keir Stasi
00:04:39or Keir Stalin
00:04:40or Keir Starmer
00:04:41or Two-Tier Keir
00:04:43or however it is.
00:04:44You know about the video
00:04:46that's emerged allegedly
00:04:47of him kissing Lord Ali
00:04:50and apparently there's more videos
00:04:52that have yet to come out
00:04:53and see the light of day.
00:04:54And it's not,
00:04:57it's not that he's gay.
00:04:59We don't care about that.
00:05:01It's that he has no honor.
00:05:02He has no honor.
00:05:04Anything any of you want to say
00:05:06with regards to that
00:05:08and the state of the UK
00:05:08and I've started with a dud.
00:05:15No, no, it's not a dud.
00:05:17I was just silent
00:05:17because I thought Alex would go first.
00:05:19Which Alex?
00:05:20Which Alex?
00:05:22Well, obviously not me.
00:05:24Well, I call him 008.
00:05:27Keir Starmer.
00:05:29He's called 000.
00:05:30License to bore you.
00:05:32The guy is extremely boring,
00:05:34but I don't know.
00:05:36I guess he leads a very spicy personal life,
00:05:39I guess.
00:05:40I don't know.
00:05:42Yes.
00:05:43You know,
00:05:44what can you say about Keir Starmer?
00:05:46He is extremely boring
00:05:47and extremely dangerous.
00:05:49He does as he's told.
00:05:51He does as he's told.
00:05:53And I think the biggest problem
00:05:54with Keir Starmer
00:05:55from a foreign policy perspective,
00:05:57I mean,
00:05:57a huge problem for the UK.
00:06:00But for my purposes,
00:06:03as we're a geopolitical channel,
00:06:05is his commitment
00:06:07to Project Ukraine.
00:06:09No doubt that the UK,
00:06:11Starmer along with France and Macron,
00:06:13are absolutely running
00:06:15Project Ukraine now
00:06:17and that's going to become
00:06:18a complete disaster
00:06:19and train wreck for him.
00:06:21And for Europe and the UK.
00:06:24Mr. Craner?
00:06:26Well,
00:06:27I think,
00:06:27you know,
00:06:28it's another blow
00:06:29to Britain,
00:06:31to,
00:06:31you know,
00:06:31the British people
00:06:32who have been
00:06:33systematically,
00:06:35consistently demoralized now
00:06:36for,
00:06:37I don't know how long,
00:06:38you know,
00:06:38so Starmer stinks,
00:06:40but,
00:06:41you know,
00:06:41before Starmer,
00:06:43there was Rishi Sunak
00:06:44and before him,
00:06:45there was
00:06:45Liz Truss
00:06:47and Boris Johnson
00:06:48and Theresa May
00:06:50and David Cameron
00:06:51and they all,
00:06:53well,
00:06:54you know,
00:06:54suck,
00:06:55yeah,
00:06:55I guess that's the technical term.
00:06:57It's always the same,
00:06:58the policies don't change,
00:06:59things are getting worse
00:07:00and worse and worse
00:07:01for the British people.
00:07:03Britain is,
00:07:04you know,
00:07:04the mask
00:07:05of this
00:07:06liberal democracy
00:07:09that is,
00:07:10you know,
00:07:11enmatched in all these
00:07:12imperialist misadventures
00:07:13only because
00:07:15they are
00:07:15faithfully following
00:07:18their ally,
00:07:19the United States
00:07:20which is dragging them
00:07:21into these,
00:07:22all these bad situations
00:07:23around the world.
00:07:24That mask
00:07:25is really peeling away now
00:07:27and we're discovering
00:07:28that Britain
00:07:29is actually leading the way
00:07:31and
00:07:32this,
00:07:33this gets
00:07:34extremely interesting
00:07:35and
00:07:36I think
00:07:37it's not just that
00:07:38this is going to be
00:07:40disastrous for
00:07:40Keir Starmer,
00:07:41I think it's going to be
00:07:43disastrous for the,
00:07:44for,
00:07:44in general,
00:07:45for the British establishment
00:07:47and I'm afraid
00:07:49that the people
00:07:50who are going to
00:07:51obviously be stuck
00:07:52with the tab
00:07:52are going to be
00:07:53the British people
00:07:54and I think that the,
00:07:55the really unfortunate
00:07:57part about this
00:07:58is that
00:07:58the British people
00:08:00have lived under this,
00:08:01under this regime
00:08:03for so long,
00:08:06you know,
00:08:06the continuity
00:08:07of so many generations
00:08:08and they've been
00:08:10lied to for so long
00:08:11that
00:08:12I,
00:08:14you know,
00:08:14if I were British
00:08:15I wouldn't really be sure
00:08:17where to start.
00:08:18You'd have to,
00:08:19you'd have to start
00:08:20from a blank page
00:08:21somehow
00:08:21and so
00:08:23I,
00:08:23I don't know where
00:08:24the situation goes
00:08:25but I,
00:08:25I hope that it doesn't
00:08:26become
00:08:26one of those
00:08:28North Korea
00:08:30nations
00:08:32that,
00:08:33you know,
00:08:33because the regime
00:08:35feels they need
00:08:36to preserve them,
00:08:36preserve themselves,
00:08:37they're going to be left
00:08:39just with their own population
00:08:41and they're not going
00:08:41to take them
00:08:42as human shields
00:08:43and barricade themselves
00:08:45away from
00:08:46any threatening influence
00:08:48which obviously now
00:08:49is Russia
00:08:50but,
00:08:52you know,
00:08:52if you listen carefully
00:08:53to the voices
00:08:54of the British establishment
00:08:55they're now regarding
00:08:56the United States
00:08:57as an enemy
00:08:57nation
00:08:58and,
00:09:00and so
00:09:00where does that leave you?
00:09:01What does that leave you with?
00:09:02And then,
00:09:03you know,
00:09:03they,
00:09:03they've been,
00:09:04they've been
00:09:05engaged in a scramble
00:09:07for Africa
00:09:07for the last,
00:09:09I don't know how long,
00:09:0920 years or so
00:09:10they've been
00:09:11re-establishing
00:09:14colonial control
00:09:15over many African countries
00:09:17and their,
00:09:17and their resources
00:09:18and now we see
00:09:20that
00:09:20this is being attacked
00:09:24by the Russians
00:09:26and possibly
00:09:27by the Chinese
00:09:28because I think
00:09:29that they know
00:09:29that this is the source
00:09:30of strength.
00:09:31There's,
00:09:31British,
00:09:32British establishment
00:09:34is not to be
00:09:35underestimated,
00:09:35you know,
00:09:36they are
00:09:36somehow
00:09:37in some way
00:09:39that is not
00:09:40clear
00:09:41and not disclosed
00:09:43they still have
00:09:44disproportionate power.
00:09:45We see that
00:09:46Britain is signing
00:09:47military cooperation
00:09:48agreements
00:09:49left and right
00:09:50as though
00:09:51they were a major
00:09:52military power
00:09:53and everybody,
00:09:54all the,
00:09:54all the nations
00:09:55around the world
00:09:55are scrambling
00:09:56to have
00:09:56some kind of
00:09:57military cooperation
00:09:58with Britain.
00:09:59so the,
00:10:03the,
00:10:03there is
00:10:05some kind
00:10:06of a basis
00:10:06to their power.
00:10:08I'm not sure
00:10:09what it is.
00:10:09I mean,
00:10:10I'm pretty sure
00:10:10it has to do
00:10:11with money,
00:10:11but it also
00:10:13has to do
00:10:14with,
00:10:14with
00:10:15secret
00:10:18diplomacy
00:10:20and
00:10:21their intelligence
00:10:22network.
00:10:24We remember
00:10:25that during
00:10:25the COVID-19
00:10:26pandemic
00:10:27Tony Blair
00:10:31tweeted out
00:10:32boasting
00:10:33how
00:10:33quote
00:10:34we have
00:10:35teams
00:10:35embedded
00:10:36in all
00:10:37the governments
00:10:37around the
00:10:38world.
00:10:38I don't know
00:10:39what that
00:10:39means exactly,
00:10:41but you know,
00:10:42when they sign
00:10:43a military
00:10:43cooperation
00:10:44agreement
00:10:44with Bosnia
00:10:45and Herzegovina,
00:10:46that is a
00:10:47major head
00:10:48scratcher for
00:10:49me.
00:10:49I don't know
00:10:49how that
00:10:51happens,
00:10:52but clearly
00:10:53does happen.
00:10:54And
00:10:55I think
00:10:57that the
00:10:57fall of
00:10:58Britain
00:10:58is going
00:10:58to be
00:10:59a very,
00:11:00very tumultuous
00:11:01event,
00:11:01not just
00:11:02for Britain,
00:11:02but I
00:11:03think maybe
00:11:04for all
00:11:05the rest
00:11:05of us.
00:11:07Mr.
00:11:07Christopher
00:11:08The
00:11:11intel
00:11:11agencies
00:11:12of the
00:11:13UK,
00:11:14that's pretty
00:11:14much all
00:11:15they've got
00:11:16left.
00:11:18You know,
00:11:18they've been
00:11:19hollowed out
00:11:20so much
00:11:21over the
00:11:21past
00:11:22decades.
00:11:23Their intel
00:11:24agencies,
00:11:25though,
00:11:25are still
00:11:26top.
00:11:27And they
00:11:29meddle around
00:11:30pretty much
00:11:31all over the
00:11:31world,
00:11:32including
00:11:33heavily in
00:11:34the United
00:11:34States,
00:11:34by the way,
00:11:36very much
00:11:36in the
00:11:36United
00:11:37States.
00:11:38But,
00:11:38you know,
00:11:39Kirstahmer,
00:11:40my thinking
00:11:41on Kirstahmer,
00:11:42and I think
00:11:42the number
00:11:43one priority
00:11:43for the
00:11:45British
00:11:45establishment
00:11:46is above
00:11:47anything else,
00:11:49is to
00:11:49reverse Brexit.
00:11:50Really?
00:11:53That's
00:11:54number one?
00:11:55I think
00:11:56that's
00:11:56number one.
00:11:56Above
00:11:57breaking up
00:11:58Russia and
00:11:58plundering
00:11:59Russia?
00:11:59I think
00:12:00Russia is
00:12:01a good
00:12:01way to
00:12:01reverse
00:12:01Brexit.
00:12:04And when
00:12:04I mean
00:12:04reverse
00:12:04Brexit,
00:12:05I'm not
00:12:05saying they're
00:12:06going to
00:12:06have another
00:12:06referendum or
00:12:07anything like
00:12:07that,
00:12:07but to
00:12:08find a way
00:12:09to reintegrate
00:12:10the UK
00:12:11into the
00:12:12EU.
00:12:12And then I
00:12:13agree with
00:12:13what Alex
00:12:14is saying.
00:12:14I think
00:12:14once,
00:12:16I don't
00:12:17know which
00:12:17one will
00:12:17collapse
00:12:18first.
00:12:18I don't
00:12:18know if
00:12:18it'll be
00:12:19the UK
00:12:19first,
00:12:20it will
00:12:20be the
00:12:21EU or
00:12:21the EU
00:12:21and then
00:12:22the UK,
00:12:22but I
00:12:22think
00:12:22together
00:12:23they're
00:12:23going to
00:12:23go down
00:12:24one after
00:12:25the other.
00:12:27It's
00:12:27very important
00:12:28to get
00:12:29the UK
00:12:29back into
00:12:30the EU.
00:12:31It's
00:12:32important for
00:12:32the globalist
00:12:33cause.
00:12:35It's important
00:12:35for the
00:12:36establishment.
00:12:37I don't
00:12:37think they've
00:12:37ever gotten
00:12:37over
00:12:38Brexit.
00:12:40And I
00:12:40think we've
00:12:40been seeing
00:12:41over the
00:12:41past few
00:12:44years,
00:12:45going through
00:12:45all the
00:12:46various
00:12:46prime
00:12:46ministers,
00:12:47they've
00:12:48all been
00:12:48taking steps
00:12:49to realign
00:12:50the UK
00:12:50closer with
00:12:51the EU.
00:12:53And I
00:12:53think that's
00:12:53going to
00:12:53happen.
00:12:54Russia is
00:12:54a great
00:12:54excuse
00:12:54because they
00:12:55can fight
00:12:56Russia
00:12:56together,
00:12:57they can
00:12:57unite the
00:12:59UK and
00:12:59France,
00:13:01the UK and
00:13:01the European
00:13:02Union,
00:13:02throw Germany
00:13:03in there.
00:13:03You have the
00:13:03nice powerful
00:13:04three, the
00:13:05big three,
00:13:06Germany,
00:13:07France, and
00:13:07the UK.
00:13:10The UK is
00:13:11very hot on
00:13:13the idea of
00:13:14Germany
00:13:15re-arming.
00:13:16They're
00:13:17very hot.
00:13:17They love
00:13:17it.
00:13:18They really
00:13:19do love
00:13:19it.
00:13:19The idea
00:13:19that Germany
00:13:20is going
00:13:20to build
00:13:21up a
00:13:21military.
00:13:22The British
00:13:22media,
00:13:23they're all
00:13:23over that
00:13:24one.
00:13:25That's the
00:13:26goal.
00:13:27You're going
00:13:28to have to
00:13:28take on
00:13:29Russia,
00:13:29so you're
00:13:31going to
00:13:31have to
00:13:31get back
00:13:31together
00:13:32with the
00:13:32EU gang.
00:13:35That's how
00:13:35they're going
00:13:35to do it.
00:13:37And sacrifice
00:13:38other people
00:13:38in that
00:13:39conflict.
00:13:40Even if it
00:13:41isn't a
00:13:41conflict.
00:13:42I'm not
00:13:43saying it's
00:13:43going to be
00:13:44a conflict,
00:13:44a war.
00:13:44I don't
00:13:45think they
00:13:46would last
00:13:46a week.
00:13:47Even in
00:13:48four or
00:13:48five years,
00:13:49even if
00:13:50they were
00:13:50to re-arm
00:13:53as they say
00:13:54they're going
00:13:55to re-arm
00:13:56and all of
00:13:57this talk,
00:13:57even if they
00:13:57were to do
00:13:58something like
00:13:58that and
00:13:59bump up
00:13:59their spending
00:14:00to fulfill
00:14:00the NATO
00:14:01targets and
00:14:02create an
00:14:02EU army,
00:14:03they still
00:14:03would not
00:14:03last a
00:14:04week against
00:14:05Russia.
00:14:05People forget
00:14:06that Russia
00:14:06is fighting
00:14:08the war with
00:14:09Ukraine for
00:14:09many reasons,
00:14:10but they
00:14:11actually care
00:14:11about the
00:14:13land and
00:14:13the people
00:14:14in Ukraine
00:14:14where they
00:14:15are fighting
00:14:15the war.
00:14:16Believe me,
00:14:16if they had
00:14:16to get into
00:14:18any kind
00:14:18of a
00:14:19conflict
00:14:20with any
00:14:21other country
00:14:21in Europe,
00:14:22it would be
00:14:24very quick.
00:14:25And the
00:14:25Russians
00:14:26wouldn't give
00:14:26one you-know-what
00:14:28about the
00:14:29opponent.
00:14:30But I'm not
00:14:31saying it's
00:14:32going to get
00:14:32there.
00:14:32I don't
00:14:32think it'll
00:14:33get there,
00:14:34but it's a
00:14:34great way
00:14:35to get the
00:14:37UK back
00:14:38integrated in
00:14:39some form or
00:14:40another with
00:14:42the European
00:14:43Union.
00:14:44Okay.
00:14:44Now, I
00:14:44can get
00:14:45why the
00:14:45European
00:14:46Union would
00:14:46want the
00:14:47UK back
00:14:47so they
00:14:47can continue
00:14:48sucking life
00:14:49out of the
00:14:49UK in
00:14:50order to
00:14:50shore up
00:14:50the euro
00:14:51and their
00:14:51own
00:14:52finances.
00:14:53But why
00:14:54would the
00:14:54British
00:14:54remnants of
00:14:55the British
00:14:56Empire want
00:14:56to get back
00:14:57in with the
00:14:57EU?
00:14:57because the
00:14:59British
00:14:59Empire.
00:15:01Okay.
00:15:04They're all
00:15:04the same
00:15:05group.
00:15:05They're all
00:15:05the same
00:15:05gang.
00:15:06I mean,
00:15:06it's that
00:15:07simple.
00:15:08It's all
00:15:08the same
00:15:09globalists.
00:15:11They have
00:15:11to take
00:15:11on a
00:15:12multipolar
00:15:12world right
00:15:12now.
00:15:13So, I
00:15:13mean, you
00:15:14know, they
00:15:14got nothing
00:15:15else.
00:15:16They got
00:15:16nothing
00:15:16else.
00:15:17Stronger
00:15:17together.
00:15:18Yeah.
00:15:19We're dying
00:15:20together.
00:15:21Mr.
00:15:21Craner?
00:15:23Well, yeah,
00:15:24I have to
00:15:25agree with
00:15:25Alex.
00:15:26And I
00:15:26think that the
00:15:27way it
00:15:27works is
00:15:27that if
00:15:28the cabal
00:15:29in London
00:15:29decides on
00:15:30some agenda,
00:15:31then, you
00:15:32know, Canada,
00:15:34Australia,
00:15:35Japan, they
00:15:37follow suit.
00:15:38It's just, you
00:15:39know, it's not
00:15:39like they have
00:15:41any real
00:15:42sovereignty to
00:15:43say, oh, no,
00:15:44no, you
00:15:44know, we're
00:15:45not going to
00:15:46be doing
00:15:46that.
00:15:47The only
00:15:47problem is
00:15:48that they
00:15:48are a
00:15:49dispersed
00:15:50archipelago
00:15:51of weak
00:15:51powers.
00:15:52So, there
00:15:53isn't really
00:15:53much that they
00:15:54can do.
00:15:55But, you
00:15:55know, the
00:15:55part that's
00:15:56worrisome is
00:15:57that it
00:15:57seems that
00:15:57their logic
00:15:58is, if
00:16:00we get
00:16:00ourselves into
00:16:01a real
00:16:01mess, the
00:16:02Americans are
00:16:02going to have
00:16:03to come and
00:16:03bail us
00:16:03out.
00:16:05So, even
00:16:05though I
00:16:06think they
00:16:07have no
00:16:07illusions about
00:16:08being able to
00:16:08defeat Russia,
00:16:09they think, if
00:16:11we create a
00:16:11big mess, if
00:16:12we get
00:16:12ourselves into
00:16:13real trouble,
00:16:14then surely the
00:16:15Americans are
00:16:16going to have to
00:16:16come to our
00:16:16aid.
00:16:17And so, rather
00:16:18than, you
00:16:19know, cutting
00:16:19their losses,
00:16:20changing course,
00:16:22and maybe
00:16:23deciding to
00:16:23become, you
00:16:24know, a
00:16:25neutral island
00:16:26nation that
00:16:26minds its
00:16:27own business,
00:16:28I think that
00:16:30they are
00:16:30desperate to
00:16:31get into
00:16:32that mess.
00:16:32They are
00:16:33working on
00:16:34that agenda,
00:16:35and this is
00:16:35their plan.
00:16:36And then the
00:16:37more the
00:16:37merrier, you
00:16:37know, so,
00:16:38hey, you
00:16:39know, coalition
00:16:39of the willing,
00:16:40we're six,
00:16:42and the
00:16:43Dutch are
00:16:43with us,
00:16:44and the
00:16:44Latvia,
00:16:45Lithuania,
00:16:46and Estonia
00:16:46are with
00:16:46us.
00:16:47And I
00:16:49think they
00:16:50keep selling
00:16:50the Turks
00:16:51on this
00:16:51great
00:16:51Turania
00:16:52project,
00:16:52and that
00:16:53the Turkish
00:16:53deep state
00:16:54is still
00:16:56kind of
00:16:56hedging their
00:16:57bets on
00:16:57that, and
00:16:58still, I
00:16:59think, is
00:17:01transacting with
00:17:02the British
00:17:03deep state.
00:17:05And I
00:17:06think I'm
00:17:07kind of
00:17:07leaning to
00:17:07the conclusion
00:17:08that the
00:17:08whole Syria
00:17:09mess, that
00:17:10the trap
00:17:10was for
00:17:11Turkey, that
00:17:12the trap
00:17:13was laid
00:17:13for Turkey
00:17:14there, to
00:17:15absorb them
00:17:15into a
00:17:16quagmire, so
00:17:17that they
00:17:17are maybe
00:17:19weakened, so
00:17:20that they
00:17:20cannot, you
00:17:23know, get
00:17:25themselves into
00:17:26a Crimea
00:17:26War 2.0,
00:17:27somehow.
00:17:28Who said
00:17:29that?
00:17:29The British?
00:17:31For Turkey?
00:17:32Who said
00:17:33that?
00:17:33No, no, no,
00:17:33sorry, I
00:17:36have to
00:17:36rewind.
00:17:37So, you
00:17:38know how
00:17:39in late
00:17:40November last
00:17:41year, early
00:17:42December,
00:17:43Syrian
00:17:44government just
00:17:44folded
00:17:45practically
00:17:46without a
00:17:46fight.
00:17:47So, to
00:17:48my mind,
00:17:49there's no
00:17:49way that
00:17:49can just
00:17:50happen.
00:17:51You know,
00:17:52250,000
00:17:54well-armed,
00:17:56well-fortified
00:17:58Syrian troops
00:18:01folds to a
00:18:04ragtag
00:18:04militia of
00:18:0530,000
00:18:06jihadis on
00:18:07pickup trucks
00:18:07with light
00:18:09armor.
00:18:11That was an
00:18:12order.
00:18:12That was an
00:18:12order to do
00:18:13that.
00:18:13And I
00:18:14think that
00:18:14there was a
00:18:16reason why
00:18:16this was
00:18:17done.
00:18:18And I
00:18:18think that
00:18:18part of
00:18:18the reason
00:18:19was to
00:18:19drag these
00:18:21jihadis
00:18:22into Syria
00:18:24as a
00:18:24trap.
00:18:25It wasn't
00:18:26clear to
00:18:26me who
00:18:27this was
00:18:28against,
00:18:28but I
00:18:29think it's
00:18:29exactly to
00:18:31get Turkey
00:18:31enmeshed in
00:18:32something that
00:18:33would weigh
00:18:33them down.
00:18:34because the
00:18:37British
00:18:38establishment is
00:18:39still trying
00:18:39to move
00:18:41the pieces
00:18:41into place
00:18:42for Crimea
00:18:432.0,
00:18:44because even
00:18:46though they've
00:18:46lost in
00:18:47Ukraine,
00:18:48they are
00:18:48still extremely
00:18:49keen on
00:18:50retaining
00:18:51control over
00:18:53the Black
00:18:53Sea.
00:18:54And they're
00:18:54panicked at
00:18:55the idea that
00:18:56they might
00:18:56lose Odessa
00:18:56and then the
00:18:58whole rest of
00:18:58the coast and
00:18:59then bye-bye
00:19:00Black Sea.
00:19:00And so I
00:19:02think they're
00:19:02trying to
00:19:03somehow get
00:19:05Turkey to
00:19:07buy into
00:19:08that.
00:19:09And Turkey
00:19:10might, you
00:19:11know, we
00:19:12don't know
00:19:12because I
00:19:13don't know
00:19:14what's going
00:19:14on with
00:19:14Erdogan.
00:19:15He's less
00:19:16and less
00:19:16visible, but
00:19:17obviously the
00:19:18Turkish deep
00:19:18state is
00:19:19very, very
00:19:21active and
00:19:22still in
00:19:24cahoots with
00:19:25the British
00:19:26deep state.
00:19:28And so,
00:19:29you know,
00:19:29together with
00:19:30France, they
00:19:32could line
00:19:33up Crimea
00:19:34War 2.0.
00:19:37And I
00:19:37don't know,
00:19:38maybe the
00:19:40Russians, the
00:19:41Iranians, the
00:19:41Chinese see
00:19:43that eventuality
00:19:44as possible.
00:19:46And so I'm
00:19:47just saying
00:19:47maybe that
00:19:48trapezyria was
00:19:49late for
00:19:50the Turks
00:19:52to get into
00:19:54a quicksend so
00:19:55they can't
00:19:56move on
00:19:56other fronts.
00:19:57Alex,
00:19:58Christopher?
00:19:58The UK,
00:20:02the EU,
00:20:04what they
00:20:06need to do,
00:20:07the collective
00:20:07West, what
00:20:07they need to
00:20:08do now that
00:20:08the United
00:20:09States is out
00:20:10of the
00:20:11collective West
00:20:11game for
00:20:12now is just
00:20:12wait.
00:20:13I think that's
00:20:13the strategy.
00:20:14It's probably
00:20:15the correct
00:20:15strategy as
00:20:16well, just
00:20:17to wait
00:20:17Trump out
00:20:17for four
00:20:18years.
00:20:18so if
00:20:20they can
00:20:21unite together,
00:20:23do their
00:20:24thing, try
00:20:25to keep
00:20:25the conflict
00:20:26in Ukraine
00:20:27going, which
00:20:28it won't
00:20:28happen, but
00:20:29Russia's going
00:20:30to win this
00:20:30thing.
00:20:31But at least
00:20:31you can keep
00:20:32the enemy as
00:20:33being Russia.
00:20:34You can
00:20:34definitely keep
00:20:35that alive for
00:20:35three, four
00:20:36years.
00:20:36you can
00:20:38continue to
00:20:39talk about
00:20:41building up
00:20:42your military,
00:20:42rearming, and
00:20:43then you wait
00:20:43for the next
00:20:44election cycle.
00:20:45No doubt
00:20:46the Europeans
00:20:48and especially
00:20:49the UK,
00:20:49they'll do
00:20:50their best to
00:20:51make sure
00:20:51that they try
00:20:52to get a
00:20:53US government
00:20:53that's more
00:20:55favorable to
00:20:55them and the
00:20:56way they see
00:20:57the world.
00:20:59And I think
00:21:00that's the
00:21:00strategy that
00:21:01they have
00:21:01going forward.
00:21:01their number
00:21:03one fear
00:21:03has always
00:21:04been that
00:21:04the US
00:21:04leaves them.
00:21:06And I think
00:21:06they look at
00:21:06this as just
00:21:07a temporary
00:21:08exit for
00:21:11the United
00:21:11States.
00:21:11They see it
00:21:12as just a
00:21:12four-year
00:21:13thing.
00:21:14And it's a
00:21:15Trump thing
00:21:15for them.
00:21:16So Trump,
00:21:17this crazy guy
00:21:18in the White
00:21:19House, he's
00:21:20trying to
00:21:20leave Europe.
00:21:22We can't
00:21:22have that
00:21:23happen.
00:21:24We can't
00:21:25really go
00:21:26against him,
00:21:26but we'll
00:21:27wait him out.
00:21:29Okay.
00:21:29And then what
00:21:30about Alex's
00:21:31comment?
00:21:31Turkey?
00:21:33Turkey, you
00:21:33know, as a
00:21:34Greek, as a
00:21:35Cypriot, we
00:21:35know Turkey
00:21:36really well.
00:21:39Look, you
00:21:39know, Erdogan's...
00:21:43You know,
00:21:44here's the
00:21:45thing with
00:21:45Turkey.
00:21:47If there's
00:21:48one country
00:21:49that Turkey
00:21:49fears, absolutely
00:21:51fears, and
00:21:52will never,
00:21:53never, I
00:21:55don't want to
00:21:55say never,
00:21:56will absolutely
00:21:56be scared to
00:21:58get into a
00:21:58conflict with,
00:22:00it's Russia.
00:22:01they absolutely
00:22:03fear Russia,
00:22:04not the
00:22:04United States.
00:22:05They fear
00:22:06Russia more
00:22:07than any
00:22:07other country
00:22:08on the
00:22:09entire planet.
00:22:10Okay, and
00:22:10what's your
00:22:11evidence for
00:22:12that?
00:22:12I'm not...
00:22:13I know,
00:22:14trust me,
00:22:14I live this.
00:22:16It goes back
00:22:19through history,
00:22:20it goes back
00:22:20through, as
00:22:21Alex said,
00:22:23the many wars.
00:22:24Yeah, but
00:22:25it's the
00:22:26Russians that
00:22:27they fear the
00:22:27absolute most.
00:22:30What happened
00:22:31in...
00:22:32And yeah, I
00:22:33mean, look,
00:22:34you do see
00:22:34this kind of
00:22:36Crimea war
00:22:38thing creeping
00:22:38up, and
00:22:39that you had
00:22:39the Black
00:22:39Sea meeting
00:22:40that took
00:22:41place last
00:22:42week, where
00:22:43they were
00:22:44discussing
00:22:45the
00:22:47grain deal
00:22:48that fell
00:22:49apart, the
00:22:49Black Sea
00:22:50ceasefire, that
00:22:51never really got
00:22:52up off the
00:22:52ground, and
00:22:53there was a
00:22:54meeting in
00:22:54Turkey with
00:22:56France, the
00:22:57UK, Ukraine,
00:22:59and Turkey
00:22:59hosted this
00:23:00event.
00:23:01But from what
00:23:01I understand,
00:23:02there were no
00:23:02real top-level
00:23:03officials at
00:23:05this event.
00:23:06I think Erdogan
00:23:07is doing what
00:23:07Erdogan always
00:23:08does, which is
00:23:09kind of play
00:23:09both sides,
00:23:10and he's
00:23:11very good at
00:23:12that, he's
00:23:12very good at
00:23:13positioning Turkey
00:23:13kind of in
00:23:14the middle,
00:23:15looking to get
00:23:16benefits from
00:23:16one side, let's
00:23:17say, get
00:23:17benefits from
00:23:18the collective
00:23:19West or from
00:23:19the US, looking
00:23:20to get benefits
00:23:20from the other
00:23:21side, let's
00:23:22say, Bricks,
00:23:23Russia, China,
00:23:23whatever.
00:23:24He's very good
00:23:25at playing the
00:23:27middle, very,
00:23:28very skilled at
00:23:29doing that, probably
00:23:30the best in the
00:23:31world at this
00:23:32type of game.
00:23:34And it's worked
00:23:35for him.
00:23:36It's worked for
00:23:36him.
00:23:38You know, he's
00:23:38been the one
00:23:38country that can
00:23:39be in NATO
00:23:41and still cut
00:23:43deals with
00:23:43Russia and
00:23:45get SS-400s
00:23:46and all those
00:23:47things.
00:23:48So for Erdogan,
00:23:50it's classic
00:23:51Erdogan, I
00:23:52think, what's
00:23:53going on.
00:23:55You know, I
00:23:56think you have
00:23:56the British
00:23:57probably feel
00:23:59they can get
00:23:59Erdogan on
00:24:00side, not
00:24:01realizing who
00:24:02Erdogan is.
00:24:03I think the
00:24:04Russians, they're
00:24:04on to Erdogan,
00:24:05but they need
00:24:06Turkey.
00:24:07They need to
00:24:08have Turkey
00:24:09on side for
00:24:10various reasons.
00:24:10I think that
00:24:11will diminish
00:24:11as the
00:24:12Russians continue
00:24:13to wind down
00:24:15Ukraine.
00:24:16But definitely
00:24:16for the first
00:24:17three years, it
00:24:18was critical
00:24:18that they had
00:24:20Erdogan at
00:24:21least partly
00:24:22with them,
00:24:25given the
00:24:25conflict that
00:24:26they were in.
00:24:28To police the
00:24:29Black Sea?
00:24:30Well, a lot
00:24:30of reasons.
00:24:31There's the
00:24:32Black Sea,
00:24:33there's trade,
00:24:34there's what
00:24:36Turkey adds
00:24:37to the
00:24:38Russian economy,
00:24:39what Russia
00:24:39could do
00:24:40with Turkey.
00:24:40I mean,
00:24:41we've got to
00:24:42remember,
00:24:43Turkey resisted
00:24:45a lot of
00:24:45pressure to
00:24:46place sanctions
00:24:46on Russia.
00:24:47They resisted
00:24:48a lot of
00:24:48pressure with
00:24:50the Black
00:24:51Sea.
00:24:52Yes, they
00:24:52also sold
00:24:52weapons to
00:24:54Ukraine, and
00:24:54they took a
00:24:55lot of the
00:24:55weapons in
00:24:55Syria.
00:24:57Rumor has
00:24:57it, I
00:24:58believe these
00:24:58rumors, I
00:24:59think they're
00:24:59more than
00:24:59rumors, a lot
00:25:01of the weapons
00:25:01that were
00:25:02gathered in
00:25:02Syria, for
00:25:03example, artillery
00:25:04shells went to
00:25:05Ukraine.
00:25:06Now, how
00:25:07effective were
00:25:07those artillery
00:25:08shells?
00:25:08How good
00:25:09were they?
00:25:09That's a
00:25:10different
00:25:10question.
00:25:10Probably a
00:25:11lot of
00:25:12duds in
00:25:13what was
00:25:13sent over,
00:25:14but still,
00:25:15that's the
00:25:15game that
00:25:15Erdogan
00:25:16plays.
00:25:18Russians are
00:25:19realists, so
00:25:20I think
00:25:20Putin's
00:25:21pragmatic, and
00:25:22he understands
00:25:22the games
00:25:23that Turkey
00:25:24is playing
00:25:24against
00:25:25Russia, but
00:25:25he also
00:25:26understands
00:25:26the things
00:25:27that Turkey
00:25:27does for
00:25:28Russia, but
00:25:28this is
00:25:29Erdogan.
00:25:30So I
00:25:30think Erdogan,
00:25:31that's the
00:25:31way he's
00:25:31always going
00:25:32to operate,
00:25:33and I
00:25:34think the
00:25:35Russians are
00:25:35more on
00:25:36to Erdogan
00:25:36than the
00:25:37West and
00:25:38say the
00:25:39British are.
00:25:41Okay, and
00:25:41then Mr.
00:25:42Cranor, what
00:25:42about the
00:25:43argument that
00:25:43Turkey moving
00:25:44into Syria
00:25:46stimmies Israel's
00:25:49project for a
00:25:49greater Israel?
00:25:53Tom again?
00:25:54Forgive me, I
00:25:55didn't understand
00:25:55exactly what the
00:25:56question is.
00:25:57So Tom has
00:25:58said this, right,
00:25:58that Turkey being
00:25:59in Syria prevents
00:26:01Israel's expansion
00:26:02into a greater
00:26:03Israel.
00:26:03Well, yeah,
00:26:07that's clear, and
00:26:11it seems to me
00:26:11that Israel and
00:26:13Turkey are
00:26:16headed into
00:26:16some kind of
00:26:17a conflict.
00:26:17You know,
00:26:18Israel has
00:26:18upgraded Turkey
00:26:19into their
00:26:20number one
00:26:20enemy, even
00:26:22bigger enemy
00:26:23than Iran.
00:26:26And the
00:26:26Turks want
00:26:27to, so
00:26:28Israel wants
00:26:30to splinter
00:26:30Syria.
00:26:31they want
00:26:32it
00:26:33balkanized
00:26:35kind of
00:26:36between
00:26:36HTS, the
00:26:38Kurds, their
00:26:40loyal
00:26:41Druze militia
00:26:42and whatever.
00:26:44They want
00:26:45to balkanize
00:26:47Syria at their
00:26:48doorstep so
00:26:49that it's a
00:26:49soft target for
00:26:50them, they can
00:26:51control it.
00:26:51whereas Turkey
00:26:53wants a
00:26:54unified territory
00:26:56under their
00:26:56control.
00:26:58And so it
00:26:58seems to me that
00:26:59the Turks are
00:27:00trying to build a
00:27:01security architecture
00:27:02there, military
00:27:03bases, air
00:27:05defenses, heavy
00:27:06weaponry, which
00:27:08the Israelis,
00:27:10apart from wanting
00:27:11massive chunks of
00:27:12Syria, if you put
00:27:14together maps of
00:27:16the Ottoman
00:27:18empire and
00:27:20the map of
00:27:21the Eretz
00:27:21Israel that
00:27:22the, that
00:27:23the, all of
00:27:24these right-wing
00:27:25fanatics in
00:27:25Israel are, are
00:27:27aspiring to, you
00:27:29see that they, they
00:27:29have a massive
00:27:30overlap.
00:27:31And so even
00:27:33though I think
00:27:34this is not
00:27:34being discussed
00:27:35in the open
00:27:36now, it is
00:27:37in the, in
00:27:39the flow of
00:27:39the narrative on
00:27:40both sides.
00:27:42And so that
00:27:42is, that is
00:27:43pushing them into
00:27:44a conflict.
00:27:44And so
00:27:47they recently
00:27:48had talks on
00:27:49in, in, in,
00:27:50in Baku,
00:27:51Azerbaijan on
00:27:51creating
00:27:53deconfliction
00:27:54mechanisms.
00:27:54But I think
00:27:55it's the, I
00:27:59think that the
00:27:59momentum towards
00:28:01a conflict
00:28:03and not to
00:28:06forget the, the
00:28:07public opinion
00:28:07on, on
00:28:08Turkish side
00:28:08will overwhelm
00:28:10this.
00:28:10You know, I
00:28:11think that the
00:28:11deconfliction
00:28:12mechanism isn't
00:28:13going to do
00:28:13very much at
00:28:14all.
00:28:15So I think
00:28:16that something's
00:28:17going to go
00:28:17down eventually
00:28:18unless Israel
00:28:21implodes all by
00:28:22itself.
00:28:23You know, the
00:28:24civil war breaks
00:28:26out in Israel
00:28:27and, and
00:28:28things just go
00:28:29belly up all
00:28:30of their own.
00:28:31And then the
00:28:33whole axis of
00:28:36resistance and
00:28:37Turkey decide,
00:28:39decide to step
00:28:40away and wait
00:28:41it out.
00:28:41because if you
00:28:43give Israel an
00:28:44external enemy,
00:28:45that is, if
00:28:46you, if you
00:28:47attack Israel,
00:28:48then they're
00:28:49going to unite
00:28:50behind whatever
00:28:50leadership they
00:28:51have.
00:28:52They're all
00:28:52going to close
00:28:53ranks behind
00:28:54Netanyahu or
00:28:55whoever is going
00:28:56to be in
00:28:57power after
00:28:57them.
00:28:58But if you, if
00:28:59you just sit
00:29:01by the river,
00:29:02eventually you're
00:29:02going to see the
00:29:03corpse of your
00:29:03enemy float by.
00:29:04And I think
00:29:05maybe, maybe
00:29:06that's the, that's
00:29:07the path they're
00:29:08choosing, which
00:29:09would probably be
00:29:10wise, but I
00:29:10don't know.
00:29:11You know, this
00:29:11is, uh, this
00:29:14is not the kind
00:29:15of stuff that's
00:29:15going to come
00:29:16out in the, in
00:29:17the, in the
00:29:17front page, uh,
00:29:19headlines.
00:29:20Yeah.
00:29:21Yeah.
00:29:22Especially not in
00:29:22the mainstream
00:29:23media.
00:29:23No, definitely not
00:29:24in the mainstream
00:29:25media, which is
00:29:25why people should
00:29:26watch out for
00:29:26Alex's stuff on
00:29:27Substack and
00:29:28also the Duran
00:29:29stuff all over
00:29:30the place.
00:29:31I discovered you
00:29:32on Podbean the
00:29:33other day, Alex,
00:29:34Christopher, I
00:29:34didn't know the
00:29:35Duran would have
00:29:35been, but you
00:29:36are.
00:29:37I guess we
00:29:37are.
00:29:37I didn't know
00:29:38either.
00:29:39Yeah.
00:29:40Okay.
00:29:40Well, let's keep
00:29:41traveling, right?
00:29:42So we're now in
00:29:42Israel.
00:29:44So Mr.
00:29:45Christopher, any
00:29:45comments on the
00:29:47wonderful shape
00:29:48that the Israeli
00:29:49state is in and
00:29:50what a model it
00:29:51is for the rest of
00:29:52the world and how
00:29:53to conduct
00:29:53international
00:29:54relations?
00:29:57If it's, um,
00:29:59look, you know,
00:29:59it's, I think it's
00:30:01a hard country to,
00:30:03to get a feel
00:30:03for unless,
00:30:04unless you're
00:30:05there or you
00:30:06live there or
00:30:07you have a deep
00:30:07understanding.
00:30:08I mean, it's
00:30:08Israeli politics
00:30:10is, is very
00:30:11complicated.
00:30:14Um, very,
00:30:15very, very
00:30:15cutthroat as
00:30:16well.
00:30:17Very difficult.
00:30:19Um, where
00:30:21Israel's going,
00:30:22I, I can't
00:30:25say, um, you
00:30:27know, I could,
00:30:27I could talk
00:30:28about, about
00:30:30about where
00:30:31they're trying to
00:30:32push with
00:30:33regards to
00:30:33Iran.
00:30:34Yeah.
00:30:35I mean, I
00:30:36mean, uh, in
00:30:37Gaza, they're,
00:30:38they're, they're
00:30:38stuck.
00:30:39That's the way it
00:30:39seems.
00:30:41They're stuck.
00:30:41It wasn't as
00:30:42easy as, as
00:30:42they thought it
00:30:43was going to
00:30:43be.
00:30:44It doesn't
00:30:45mean that,
00:30:46um, that
00:30:49Hamas or
00:30:51Hezbollah
00:30:51were not
00:30:53weakened.
00:30:53they, I
00:30:54think they
00:30:54have been
00:30:55weakened.
00:30:56I mean, I
00:30:56think, I
00:30:56think if you
00:30:57say they're
00:30:57not weakened or
00:30:58something like
00:30:58that, I
00:30:59think that's
00:30:59not being
00:30:59honest.
00:31:00They have
00:31:01been weakened.
00:31:02Um, you
00:31:03know, but, but
00:31:03so has Israel.
00:31:06Yeah.
00:31:06Right.
00:31:07The economy's
00:31:08not in great
00:31:09shape either in
00:31:09Israel as well.
00:31:10So, I mean,
00:31:10Israel was
00:31:11weakened and,
00:31:12and, um, and
00:31:13now they're
00:31:14looking to, to
00:31:15get something
00:31:16going.
00:31:16At least Netanyahu
00:31:17is looking to get
00:31:17something going
00:31:17with Iran.
00:31:18It looks like
00:31:19Trump is not
00:31:20fighting at the
00:31:21moment.
00:31:22At least that's
00:31:23what we get
00:31:23from a New
00:31:24York Times
00:31:24report.
00:31:25I mean, I
00:31:25know people
00:31:25are going to
00:31:26probably watch
00:31:26this video.
00:31:26Of course,
00:31:27Trump wants
00:31:27to start a
00:31:28war with
00:31:28Iran.
00:31:29I'm going
00:31:29by, by
00:31:30various reports
00:31:31and, and
00:31:32I'm also
00:31:32going by, by
00:31:34the fact that
00:31:34that he does
00:31:35have, uh,
00:31:36uh, Whitcoff
00:31:37negotiating with
00:31:38Iran.
00:31:39And it looks
00:31:40like things are
00:31:40going well.
00:31:40And I say that
00:31:41not coming from
00:31:42the American
00:31:42side.
00:31:42I say that
00:31:43because that's
00:31:43what the
00:31:44Iranian side is
00:31:44saying.
00:31:45The Iranian
00:31:46side is saying
00:31:47things are
00:31:47going well.
00:31:49That's what we
00:31:49have to go
00:31:50off of.
00:31:51Now we have a
00:31:51report saying that
00:31:53Israel had a
00:31:54plan for a
00:31:55one-week, uh,
00:31:56strike, all
00:31:57about strike
00:31:58with the
00:31:58United States
00:31:59on nuclear
00:31:59facilities.
00:32:01Uh, the
00:32:01Trump, uh, the
00:32:02Trump administration
00:32:03turned it down.
00:32:04Trump, Hegseth,
00:32:06Gabbard, uh,
00:32:07Susie Wiles,
00:32:08they all said
00:32:09no.
00:32:09There were some
00:32:10people in the
00:32:10Trump administration
00:32:11that seemed to,
00:32:12to like this
00:32:13idea.
00:32:14And then you
00:32:14have Whitcoff.
00:32:15He's had two
00:32:15meetings with the
00:32:16Iranian foreign
00:32:17minister.
00:32:17The Iranian
00:32:18foreign minister
00:32:19has said that,
00:32:20that things are
00:32:20looking cautiously
00:32:21optimistic.
00:32:22Those were his
00:32:23words.
00:32:23Not my words.
00:32:25And we're now
00:32:25moving to
00:32:26technical talks.
00:32:27Now, uh,
00:32:28this is an easy
00:32:30deal.
00:32:31Because both
00:32:32sides want it.
00:32:33The United
00:32:34States doesn't
00:32:35want Iran to
00:32:36get nukes.
00:32:37Iran doesn't
00:32:38want nukes.
00:32:40Russia doesn't
00:32:40want Iran to
00:32:41get nukes.
00:32:41Saudi Arabia
00:32:41doesn't want
00:32:42Iran to get
00:32:42nukes.
00:32:43No one wants
00:32:43Iran to get
00:32:44nuclear weapons.
00:32:45Israel doesn't
00:32:46want Iran.
00:32:46No one wants
00:32:47Iran to get
00:32:47nuclear weapons.
00:32:48So, on the
00:32:49surface, this is a
00:32:50pretty easy deal.
00:32:51But, but you
00:32:53have the
00:32:53neocons, you
00:32:54have the
00:32:54hardliners in
00:32:55Israel who
00:32:56can keep on
00:32:57believing that
00:32:59all of their
00:33:02troubles, whether
00:33:04it's Hamas,
00:33:05whether it's
00:33:05Hezbollah.
00:33:05Hamas, I
00:33:06don't, you
00:33:06know, there's
00:33:07no connection.
00:33:08At least there
00:33:08wasn't a
00:33:08connection between
00:33:09Hamas and
00:33:10Iran.
00:33:10But, okay, they
00:33:11believe that
00:33:12Hamas, Hezbollah,
00:33:12everything, it all
00:33:14goes back to the
00:33:14source of Iran.
00:33:15You know, it's
00:33:16this belief that
00:33:17Iran is the
00:33:19source of all
00:33:19of their
00:33:21problems.
00:33:21And then all
00:33:22the problems in
00:33:22the Middle
00:33:23East, that's
00:33:23the belief.
00:33:24So, you have
00:33:24to cut off the
00:33:26head of the
00:33:26snake, right?
00:33:27So, I think
00:33:28that's the
00:33:28problem in all
00:33:29of this is can
00:33:30the Trump
00:33:31administration
00:33:31continue to
00:33:34work towards
00:33:36diplomacy with
00:33:39Iran if that
00:33:40is indeed the
00:33:41intention.
00:33:43I think that's
00:33:43where we are.
00:33:44you know, as
00:33:45far as, you
00:33:47know, the
00:33:47state of
00:33:48Israel or
00:33:48Netanyahu's
00:33:49position, I
00:33:50think it's
00:33:50hard to get a
00:33:51read for it.
00:33:52I really do.
00:33:53I talk to a
00:33:54lot of people
00:33:55who have
00:33:56different views
00:33:56on how they
00:33:58see the
00:33:59strength of
00:34:00the Netanyahu
00:34:01administration.
00:34:02Some people
00:34:02tell me he's
00:34:04very strong, a
00:34:05lot of support.
00:34:05Other people
00:34:05tell me he's
00:34:06not strong,
00:34:06doesn't have
00:34:07support.
00:34:07And, you
00:34:08know, once
00:34:08again, I
00:34:09live in a
00:34:09place which
00:34:10is about 20
00:34:10miles, 25
00:34:12miles from,
00:34:13I don't know
00:34:14however close
00:34:16to Israel,
00:34:17right?
00:34:17It's just
00:34:17right across,
00:34:1820 minute
00:34:18flight, 20
00:34:19minute flight
00:34:20we're in
00:34:20Israel, right?
00:34:22So, you
00:34:24know, everyone
00:34:25always tells me
00:34:26the same thing.
00:34:26Unless you're
00:34:27there and
00:34:27you see it,
00:34:28you're not
00:34:29really going to
00:34:29get a feel for
00:34:30what's really
00:34:30going on.
00:34:32So, I
00:34:33can't really
00:34:33say with
00:34:34confidence what's
00:34:36the state of
00:34:37the Netanyahu
00:34:37administration.
00:34:38I'm just not
00:34:39confident enough
00:34:40to say it.
00:34:40Yes, I
00:34:42think Mr.
00:34:43Cranor may
00:34:43have an
00:34:44idea from
00:34:45our previous
00:34:45conversation with
00:34:46Tom Luongo a
00:34:46few weeks ago.
00:34:48Certainly the
00:34:49internal state of
00:34:50Israel.
00:34:50Alex, any
00:34:51commentary on
00:34:51Israel?
00:34:53Well, you
00:34:54know, one of
00:34:55our friends is
00:34:55an independent
00:34:56journalist in
00:34:57Israel who
00:34:58said that the
00:34:59place, even
00:34:59before the
00:35:00October 7th
00:35:01happened, that
00:35:01the place is
00:35:02pretty much a
00:35:03shithole.
00:35:04And now it's
00:35:05a much worse
00:35:06shithole.
00:35:07a lot of
00:35:09Israelis are
00:35:09very disaffected.
00:35:12Many of
00:35:12them believe
00:35:13that 7th
00:35:13October was
00:35:14a false
00:35:16flag.
00:35:17Is this
00:35:17going on
00:35:17YouTube?
00:35:20It doesn't
00:35:20have to.
00:35:21Okay.
00:35:22I don't
00:35:23really mean
00:35:23that.
00:35:23I'm just
00:35:23citing what
00:35:24these people
00:35:27are saying.
00:35:28And then,
00:35:29you know, I
00:35:29think that
00:35:29Netanyahu's
00:35:30support and
00:35:31popularity, who
00:35:32the hell
00:35:33knows?
00:35:33Because I
00:35:34think it's
00:35:34like the
00:35:35VIX
00:35:35index, you
00:35:36know?
00:35:36it's like
00:35:37it's there
00:35:38very low
00:35:39and then it
00:35:40spikes and
00:35:41then it
00:35:41goes back to
00:35:41being there
00:35:42very low.
00:35:43You know,
00:35:43like it spikes
00:35:44when they
00:35:44managed to
00:35:45kill Hassan
00:35:46Nasrallah and
00:35:47then take
00:35:51Syria and
00:35:54then it
00:35:54falls right
00:35:55back into
00:35:55everybody hating
00:35:56Netanyahu.
00:35:58Well, not
00:35:58everybody, but
00:35:59I think by
00:36:00now it's a
00:36:00significant
00:36:01majority in
00:36:02Israel.
00:36:03Israel and
00:36:04I don't
00:36:06know the
00:36:06source of
00:36:07this, but
00:36:07Alistair Crook
00:36:08said it, that
00:36:0960% of
00:36:10Israelis,
00:36:11according to
00:36:11Israeli
00:36:12polls,
00:36:14believe that
00:36:14the country
00:36:15is headed
00:36:15for a
00:36:15civil war.
00:36:17Alistair Crook
00:36:17doesn't
00:36:18speak nonsense.
00:36:21He's very
00:36:22well informed.
00:36:23And so
00:36:23that's a
00:36:24staggering
00:36:24number of
00:36:27Israelis.
00:36:27civil wars
00:36:29are the
00:36:30worst kind
00:36:31of wars,
00:36:31the cruelest,
00:36:32the bloodiest,
00:36:33the most
00:36:33horrid.
00:36:34How many
00:36:35Israelis want
00:36:36to stay
00:36:36around for
00:36:37that if
00:36:38they have a
00:36:38choice to
00:36:39bail out?
00:36:41So, you
00:36:41know, the
00:36:42numbers of
00:36:43Israelis that
00:36:43are leaving or
00:36:44planning to
00:36:44leave, we
00:36:45don't know,
00:36:45but I
00:36:46think it's
00:36:47quite
00:36:47significant.
00:36:48What is
00:36:49the future?
00:36:50What is the
00:36:50future if you
00:36:52were there,
00:36:52if you wanted
00:36:53to have a
00:36:54career, to
00:36:54develop a
00:36:55business, to
00:36:55have a
00:36:57good life?
00:36:58I think
00:36:59that that's
00:36:59been dashed.
00:37:01And I
00:37:01think that
00:37:01probably a
00:37:04very, very
00:37:04substantial
00:37:05segment of
00:37:06the population
00:37:07as we speak
00:37:08is planning
00:37:08to just get
00:37:09the hell
00:37:09out.
00:37:11Yeah, that
00:37:12all makes
00:37:12sense.
00:37:13You would,
00:37:13wouldn't you?
00:37:13If it's a
00:37:14going down
00:37:15the pan,
00:37:15risk of
00:37:16conscription,
00:37:16ongoing war,
00:37:17no jobs,
00:37:18businesses
00:37:18collapsing.
00:37:20IDF.
00:37:21IDF is
00:37:21disintegrating.
00:37:24People are
00:37:25refusing to
00:37:26serve.
00:37:27Active
00:37:28duty soldiers
00:37:29are absolutely
00:37:30exhausted,
00:37:30demoralized.
00:37:33I can't
00:37:35imagine, I
00:37:36mean, unless
00:37:37they were
00:37:38attacked by
00:37:39an external
00:37:40enemy, and
00:37:41then everybody
00:37:42says, it's
00:37:44war, let's
00:37:44go, we have
00:37:45to defend
00:37:45ourselves.
00:37:46Unless that
00:37:47happens, I
00:37:48don't even
00:37:49see how
00:37:49Israel survives.
00:37:50Okay.
00:37:54All right.
00:37:55Alex, just
00:37:55for you, do
00:37:56you want to
00:37:56come back
00:37:56on anything,
00:37:57or we
00:37:57can go
00:37:58further
00:37:58south to
00:37:58Yemen and
00:38:00the
00:38:00Houthis?
00:38:03No, I
00:38:04mean, I'll
00:38:05just go back
00:38:05to what I
00:38:07said.
00:38:08I think it's
00:38:08difficult to
00:38:11get a feel
00:38:12for what is
00:38:12taking place
00:38:13unless you're
00:38:14there in
00:38:15that case.
00:38:16I say the
00:38:19same thing
00:38:19about
00:38:20understanding
00:38:21Russia in a
00:38:22way as well.
00:38:24There's certain
00:38:25places where
00:38:29unless you're
00:38:34there, you
00:38:34don't really
00:38:35get a feel
00:38:36for what's
00:38:36happening or
00:38:37how things
00:38:38are moving.
00:38:40I'm very
00:38:41confident in
00:38:42my Russia
00:38:43analysis because
00:38:44I go there
00:38:45quite often.
00:38:46I do have
00:38:47an understanding
00:38:47as to what's
00:38:48there.
00:38:49I think
00:38:50Israel, I'm
00:38:50very close to
00:38:51the region
00:38:51where I am
00:38:53right now.
00:38:54I think I
00:38:56may have a
00:38:57sense, but
00:38:58with Netanyahu
00:39:00and his
00:39:00administration,
00:39:03in a way,
00:39:04he does
00:39:05remind me of
00:39:06Erdogan
00:39:07in a way
00:39:07because
00:39:08everyone's
00:39:09always saying
00:39:10Erdogan,
00:39:10he's on
00:39:11his way
00:39:11out.
00:39:12Delira's
00:39:13crashing.
00:39:14Turkey's
00:39:14crashing.
00:39:16Alex, may I
00:39:17ask a
00:39:18question?
00:39:19Did you
00:39:19hear
00:39:20Netanyahu's
00:39:22speech this
00:39:23week?
00:39:25Which,
00:39:26probably not
00:39:27which,
00:39:28the speech
00:39:28which one?
00:39:30It was
00:39:30gosh,
00:39:31it was just
00:39:31there was a
00:39:32video segment
00:39:33that, yeah,
00:39:34I mean, there
00:39:34was a snippet
00:39:35that went
00:39:35around on
00:39:36it was like
00:39:37an ex,
00:39:37but I forgot
00:39:38what it was
00:39:38about.
00:39:38It was a
00:39:39whole speech
00:39:39to the
00:39:40nation.
00:39:42It was, I
00:39:42think, in, I
00:39:43think it was
00:39:44in Hebrew, but
00:39:45it was dubbed
00:39:46in English, and
00:39:47it was pretty
00:39:48much Hamas,
00:39:49Hamas,
00:39:49Hamas,
00:39:50blah, blah,
00:39:50blah, blah,
00:39:50blah, blah,
00:39:50blah, blah,
00:39:51blah, blah, blah,
00:39:52blah, blah, blah,
00:39:52blah, blah, blah,
00:39:53blaming all the
00:39:55problems of the
00:39:56country on
00:39:56Hamas.
00:39:58But to me, he
00:39:59seemed the
00:40:02opposite of
00:40:02confidence.
00:40:03You know, he
00:40:03made a show of
00:40:04confidence.
00:40:05He stood
00:40:06there, you
00:40:06know, tough
00:40:07and resolute
00:40:08and, but
00:40:10it seemed
00:40:11very thin.
00:40:13It somehow
00:40:14seemed very
00:40:15defensive and
00:40:17almost frightened.
00:40:19There is one
00:40:20thing that I
00:40:21do that
00:40:22actually we
00:40:22covered on
00:40:22the Duran
00:40:23and Alexander
00:40:25was actually
00:40:25talking about
00:40:26this and he
00:40:27was spot on
00:40:27in his
00:40:28analysis.
00:40:28It was about
00:40:29two months
00:40:30ago, perhaps.
00:40:32And that
00:40:32is that the
00:40:34Trump administration
00:40:35is trying
00:40:36to cover
00:40:39for Netanyahu
00:40:40in a sense
00:40:41that they
00:40:42they've taken
00:40:43the approach
00:40:44the Trump
00:40:44administration
00:40:44has taken
00:40:45the approach
00:40:45though he's
00:40:46not seeing
00:40:46eye to eye
00:40:47with Netanyahu
00:40:48with regards
00:40:49to getting
00:40:50into a war
00:40:50with Iran
00:40:51and escalating.
00:40:54He has
00:40:55taken the
00:40:56approach which
00:40:56is the
00:40:57devil you
00:40:58know is
00:40:59better than
00:40:59having Netanyahu
00:41:02out and then
00:41:02having all
00:41:03kinds of
00:41:04chaos because
00:41:05no one can
00:41:06predict what
00:41:06would happen
00:41:07in the
00:41:09politics in
00:41:09Israel if
00:41:10Netanyahu
00:41:10were to
00:41:11somehow be
00:41:13pushed aside.
00:41:14And so it
00:41:14does look like
00:41:15the Trump
00:41:15administration
00:41:16publicly
00:41:17they make
00:41:20it as the
00:41:20United States
00:41:21is absolutely
00:41:22going to
00:41:22support
00:41:23Netanyahu
00:41:24in the
00:41:26direction that
00:41:26he's going.
00:41:26Actually even
00:41:27I believe even
00:41:28yesterday Trump
00:41:29posted something
00:41:30on Truth
00:41:31Social.
00:41:31I forgot
00:41:31exactly the
00:41:32details of it
00:41:33where he
00:41:34said that he
00:41:34spoke with
00:41:34Netanyahu
00:41:35when they're
00:41:35on the
00:41:36same page.
00:41:37Yes.
00:41:37Yeah.
00:41:37Yeah.
00:41:38Correct.
00:41:38And he's
00:41:40saying that
00:41:41stuff because
00:41:41it does look
00:41:42like the
00:41:42administration
00:41:42has taken
00:41:43the approach
00:41:44let's prop
00:41:46up Netanyahu
00:41:46because he is
00:41:47coming under
00:41:48serious pressure
00:41:48at home with
00:41:49all the rival
00:41:50factions and
00:41:51everyone looking
00:41:51to push him
00:41:52out.
00:41:53But let's
00:41:53keep him
00:41:54there because
00:41:54what we need
00:41:55is some
00:41:55sort of
00:41:56stability.
00:41:58Someone that
00:41:59we know
00:41:59that we can
00:42:00deal with that
00:42:00we know for
00:42:01so many years
00:42:02and at
00:42:03the same
00:42:03time as
00:42:04we're trying
00:42:05to provide
00:42:07cover for
00:42:07him we
00:42:09need to
00:42:09work out
00:42:10some sort
00:42:11of a way
00:42:11to de-escalate
00:42:12with Iran.
00:42:13So it's
00:42:13this very
00:42:14fine balancing
00:42:15act that
00:42:15they're playing
00:42:16with Israel
00:42:17the United
00:42:17States and
00:42:17it does
00:42:18make sense
00:42:18that that's
00:42:19where the
00:42:20Trump administration
00:42:20is moving
00:42:21with the
00:42:22region.
00:42:23Yeah.
00:42:23If Netanyahu
00:42:25stays it will
00:42:25be trouble but
00:42:26if he goes
00:42:27it will be
00:42:27double.
00:42:28That's why
00:42:29I said
00:42:29yeah that's
00:42:30what I said
00:42:30this is
00:42:31from what
00:42:31my
00:42:32understanding
00:42:32of the
00:42:33situation
00:42:33is it's
00:42:34very much
00:42:34the devil
00:42:35we know
00:42:35type of
00:42:36situation.
00:42:37And I
00:42:38think that
00:42:38people are
00:42:39really misreading
00:42:39a lot of
00:42:40the Trump
00:42:40administration
00:42:41because when
00:42:42you talk
00:42:42about Trump
00:42:43everyone gets
00:42:44very polarized
00:42:44and Biden
00:42:45was so much
00:42:46easier to
00:42:46deal with
00:42:47but when
00:42:47you deal
00:42:48with Trump
00:42:48you get
00:42:50it from
00:42:50all sides
00:42:50but if
00:42:51there's one
00:42:52thing that
00:42:52I think
00:42:52the Trump
00:42:53administration
00:42:53wanted
00:42:54when they
00:42:56first got
00:42:56into office
00:42:57is they
00:42:57wanted
00:42:57stability.
00:42:58now have
00:43:00they executed
00:43:00on that
00:43:01probably not
00:43:02things are
00:43:03incredibly
00:43:04unstable
00:43:04but I
00:43:05think that
00:43:05Trump
00:43:05the man
00:43:06his true
00:43:07intentions
00:43:07were I
00:43:09need to
00:43:09stabilize
00:43:09things in
00:43:11the world
00:43:11that means
00:43:12Israel
00:43:13that means
00:43:13Russia
00:43:14Iran
00:43:15all these
00:43:16things because
00:43:16I've got this
00:43:17ambitious agenda
00:43:18in the United
00:43:19States now
00:43:19I'm saying
00:43:20that's what he
00:43:21wanted to do
00:43:21or that was
00:43:22his belief
00:43:23I'm not
00:43:23saying that's
00:43:24what's
00:43:24happened
00:43:25three months
00:43:25later
00:43:26right
00:43:27because what's
00:43:28happened three
00:43:29months later
00:43:29campaigning on
00:43:30an anti-war
00:43:32ticket
00:43:32he started
00:43:33bombing the
00:43:33Houthis
00:43:34in order
00:43:36because the
00:43:37Houthis were
00:43:38putting pressure
00:43:38on Israel
00:43:39by the Red
00:43:40Sea blockade
00:43:41to restore
00:43:43the ceasefire
00:43:44which Israel
00:43:44had broken
00:43:45that's exactly
00:43:48right
00:43:48yeah to me
00:43:49that just doesn't
00:43:50explain itself
00:43:50it's so
00:43:51it's
00:43:52it's stupid
00:43:55so far beyond
00:43:56redemption
00:43:56that I
00:43:57I just cannot
00:43:58believe that
00:43:58the rationales
00:44:00that we know
00:44:00about are
00:44:01the reason
00:44:03for it
00:44:03yeah
00:44:04just before
00:44:05before you
00:44:06say why
00:44:07what you've
00:44:07said before
00:44:08certainly
00:44:08if you're
00:44:08going to
00:44:09say that
00:44:09and you
00:44:09might have
00:44:10to say
00:44:10it now
00:44:10even if
00:44:11you weren't
00:44:11going to
00:44:11say it
00:44:11because I've
00:44:12said this
00:44:12right
00:44:13but I was
00:44:14thinking about
00:44:15what you've
00:44:15said Alex
00:44:16why
00:44:18or the
00:44:19impact of
00:44:19the bombing
00:44:20on the
00:44:20Houthis
00:44:20on Europe
00:44:21where
00:44:23and why
00:44:24another reason
00:44:24why it may
00:44:25be valid
00:44:25we're always
00:44:26given
00:44:26a pretense
00:44:29a fraudulent
00:44:30reason for
00:44:31war
00:44:31you know
00:44:32with Iraq
00:44:33it was WMD
00:44:34instead of
00:44:34actually the
00:44:35him not
00:44:36preventing him
00:44:37from using
00:44:38the euro
00:44:38to sell
00:44:39oil
00:44:39with Libya
00:44:39because
00:44:40Gaddafi's
00:44:40a brutal
00:44:40dictator
00:44:41well actually
00:44:42no he was
00:44:43gonna back
00:44:44his currency
00:44:44with gold
00:44:45plus a few
00:44:45other things
00:44:46that the
00:44:46West didn't
00:44:46like
00:44:47with Russia
00:44:48it's Putin
00:44:49bad
00:44:49that's why
00:44:50we have
00:44:50to destroy
00:44:50Russia
00:44:51well the
00:44:5275 trillion
00:44:53dollars worth
00:44:53of resources
00:44:54may have
00:44:54something to
00:44:55do with
00:44:55it
00:44:55preposterous
00:44:57so do you
00:45:00want to say
00:45:01Alex I don't
00:45:02know Mr. Christopher
00:45:03I don't know if you've
00:45:03heard this take
00:45:04that Alex
00:45:05has said
00:45:07about the
00:45:08Houthis
00:45:09and Russia
00:45:09and sorry the
00:45:10US
00:45:10well you know
00:45:11as I was
00:45:12struggling with
00:45:12this question
00:45:13because it
00:45:14so doesn't
00:45:15make sense
00:45:15I can't
00:45:17even believe
00:45:18that they
00:45:18started bombing
00:45:19Yemen
00:45:20because you know
00:45:21like even if
00:45:22you have
00:45:22at the very
00:45:23top of the
00:45:24pyramid you
00:45:24have Donald
00:45:25Trump and
00:45:26Marco Rubio
00:45:27and Pete
00:45:28Hegseth and
00:45:28all these people
00:45:29and maybe they
00:45:30could all
00:45:30convince themselves
00:45:31that bombing
00:45:31Yemen is a
00:45:33good idea
00:45:33there's a
00:45:34whole hierarchy
00:45:34down there of
00:45:36military personnel
00:45:37who might say
00:45:39that's a bad
00:45:40idea we're not
00:45:41going to you
00:45:41know we're not
00:45:42going to get
00:45:42anything done
00:45:43other than
00:45:43risk getting
00:45:44one of our
00:45:45ships sunk
00:45:45aircraft downed
00:45:4721 or 22
00:45:49MQ-9 Reaper
00:45:50drones downed
00:45:52and so off
00:45:52to achieve
00:45:53exactly nothing
00:45:54but what it
00:45:55did achieve
00:45:56is that it
00:45:57closed the
00:45:57Red Sea
00:45:58to you know
00:46:01commercial maritime
00:46:02traffic not
00:46:03just for Israel
00:46:04which is what
00:46:06the Houthis
00:46:06originally intended
00:46:08but for
00:46:09everybody
00:46:10between 55
00:46:13and 60
00:46:14percent of
00:46:14all of
00:46:16the world's
00:46:16trade
00:46:17passes through
00:46:19the Red Sea
00:46:19and virtually
00:46:21all of it is
00:46:22Europe's trade
00:46:23so you
00:46:24basically
00:46:25blew up
00:46:26another
00:46:27Nord Stream
00:46:27biplan
00:46:28essentially
00:46:29for Europe
00:46:29so you
00:46:31actually bombed
00:46:32Europe
00:46:32economically
00:46:33and financially
00:46:34that's what
00:46:35happened
00:46:35whether they
00:46:36planned it
00:46:36this way
00:46:37whether this
00:46:38was intentional
00:46:38or not
00:46:39who knows
00:46:40but the fact
00:46:42so why do I
00:46:43think that
00:46:43it's because of
00:46:44what Larry
00:46:45Wilkerson
00:46:45explained about
00:46:46the tabletop
00:46:47exercise
00:46:48that they
00:46:49held
00:46:49exactly over
00:46:50this scenario
00:46:51and came to
00:46:52the conclusion
00:46:53that this is
00:46:54the hottest
00:46:55strategic spot
00:46:55in the world
00:46:56the Centcom
00:46:58called it
00:46:58the new
00:46:59global hub
00:47:00of competitiveness
00:47:01and now
00:47:02it's cut
00:47:02off
00:47:03is that
00:47:06plausible
00:47:07I think
00:47:07it is
00:47:07plausible
00:47:08is it
00:47:08a reason
00:47:09I don't
00:47:10know
00:47:11sorry
00:47:12sorry
00:47:12not to
00:47:13damage
00:47:14Europe
00:47:14yeah
00:47:15exactly
00:47:16to
00:47:17to
00:47:17to
00:47:18to strike
00:47:19a blow
00:47:19against
00:47:19Europe
00:47:20which would
00:47:21be just
00:47:21one of
00:47:22one in
00:47:22a
00:47:23sequence
00:47:24in a
00:47:26consistent
00:47:26sequence
00:47:27of blows
00:47:27by the
00:47:28United States
00:47:29against
00:47:30Europe
00:47:30it's just
00:47:32like one
00:47:33thing after
00:47:33another
00:47:33you know
00:47:34the tariffs
00:47:34the
00:47:35the
00:47:36Nord Stream
00:47:37too
00:47:37that wasn't
00:47:38Trump
00:47:38but you
00:47:39know
00:47:39I don't
00:47:39know
00:47:39who
00:47:39actually
00:47:40crafts
00:47:40policy
00:47:41the
00:47:41administrations
00:47:42are executing
00:47:43them
00:47:43I don't
00:47:44know
00:47:44who
00:47:44crafts
00:47:44it
00:47:45they like
00:47:4710%
00:47:47tariffs on
00:47:48the UK
00:47:4820%
00:47:49on the
00:47:49European
00:47:49Union
00:47:505%
00:47:51protection
00:47:51racket
00:47:51you know
00:47:525%
00:47:53of the
00:47:53GDP
00:47:53protection
00:47:54racket
00:47:54the
00:47:54protection
00:47:55racket
00:47:55doubled
00:47:55and on
00:47:57and on
00:47:57and on
00:47:57and on
00:47:57and then
00:47:58you know
00:47:58when Trump
00:47:59entered
00:47:59office
00:48:00the euro
00:48:01was
00:48:02$1.04
00:48:05now the
00:48:06euro is
00:48:07$1.14
00:48:08so now
00:48:10all the
00:48:11European imports
00:48:12in the United
00:48:12States are
00:48:13suddenly 9%
00:48:14more expensive
00:48:14and the
00:48:16American
00:48:16exports to
00:48:17Europe
00:48:18are 9%
00:48:18cheaper
00:48:19so it's just
00:48:21one thing
00:48:21after another
00:48:22they want to
00:48:22scoop up
00:48:23Europe's
00:48:23technology
00:48:24and industries
00:48:24and I
00:48:26don't know
00:48:27maybe turn
00:48:27Europe
00:48:27into a
00:48:28tourist
00:48:28resort
00:48:29and a
00:48:30museum
00:48:30for
00:48:31everybody
00:48:32else
00:48:32to
00:48:32come
00:48:32and
00:48:32visit
00:48:33yeah
00:48:33they
00:48:33definitely
00:48:34don't want
00:48:34to scoop
00:48:34up
00:48:34European
00:48:35values
00:48:35because
00:48:36those
00:48:36have
00:48:36many
00:48:37genders
00:48:37European
00:48:37values
00:48:38and
00:48:39regulations
00:48:40yes
00:48:41and they
00:48:42I bet
00:48:43you
00:48:43they want
00:48:43whoever
00:48:43designed
00:48:44those
00:48:44bottle
00:48:44caps
00:48:45that
00:48:45stay
00:48:45on
00:48:45the
00:48:45bottle
00:48:45when
00:48:46you
00:48:46open
00:48:46I
00:48:47bet
00:48:47you
00:48:47they
00:48:47want
00:48:48those
00:48:48people
00:48:48in
00:48:49the
00:48:49United
00:48:50States
00:48:50to
00:48:50share
00:48:51their
00:48:51innovations
00:48:52that's
00:48:57right
00:48:57this is
00:48:58this is
00:48:58high
00:48:58stakes
00:48:58game
00:48:59I
00:48:59actually
00:48:59like
00:48:59why
00:49:01didn't
00:49:02we
00:49:02come
00:49:02up
00:49:02with
00:49:02this
00:49:03destroy
00:49:05Europe
00:49:05that's
00:49:09what
00:49:09happened
00:49:09all
00:49:12right
00:49:12well
00:49:12look
00:49:12just
00:49:12to
00:49:12finish
00:49:13up
00:49:13how
00:49:14about
00:49:14the
00:49:14last
00:49:14bit
00:49:15on
00:49:15the
00:49:15United
00:49:15States
00:49:16on
00:49:16what's
00:49:17happening
00:49:17in
00:49:17the
00:49:17United
00:49:18States
00:49:18Mr.
00:49:19Christopher
00:49:20with
00:49:21which
00:49:22part
00:49:22there's
00:49:22a lot
00:49:22you
00:49:23fancy
00:49:24you
00:49:25know
00:49:25with
00:49:26the
00:49:26United
00:49:27States
00:49:27you
00:49:28know
00:49:28it's
00:49:28all
00:49:29Trump
00:49:29man
00:49:29it's
00:49:30all
00:49:30Trump
00:49:30what
00:49:31can
00:49:31you
00:49:31say
00:49:31you
00:49:32know
00:49:32you
00:49:33love
00:49:33him
00:49:33hate
00:49:33him
00:49:33indifferent
00:49:35to
00:49:35him
00:49:35the
00:49:35guy
00:49:36sucks
00:49:36up
00:49:37all
00:49:37the
00:49:37all
00:49:38the
00:49:38oxygen
00:49:39and
00:49:39news
00:49:39flow
00:49:39that
00:49:40there
00:49:40is
00:49:40it's
00:49:41it's
00:49:41all
00:49:41Trump
00:49:41it's
00:49:42it
00:49:42seems
00:49:42chaotic
00:49:42maybe
00:49:44he's
00:49:44playing
00:49:4410
00:49:45D
00:49:45chess
00:49:45maybe
00:49:45it's
00:49:46the
00:49:46art
00:49:46of
00:49:46the
00:49:46deal
00:49:46maybe
00:49:47he's
00:49:47a
00:49:47buffoon
00:49:48maybe
00:49:49he's
00:49:49screwing
00:49:49everything
00:49:50up
00:49:50how can
00:49:53you
00:49:53know
00:49:53eventually
00:49:54we'll
00:49:55find out
00:49:55exactly
00:49:56what's
00:49:56going
00:49:57on
00:49:57the
00:49:57interesting
00:49:57thing
00:49:58about
00:49:58Trump
00:49:58which
00:50:00is
00:50:00interesting
00:50:01is
00:50:01that
00:50:01eventually
00:50:03he gets
00:50:04to where
00:50:05he wants
00:50:05to go
00:50:05it seems
00:50:06a lot
00:50:07of stuff
00:50:07gets
00:50:07broken
00:50:08a lot
00:50:09of things
00:50:09get
00:50:09messed
00:50:10up
00:50:10I don't
00:50:13even know
00:50:14if it's
00:50:14he gets
00:50:14to where
00:50:14he wants
00:50:15to go
00:50:15he seems
00:50:15to get
00:50:16out of
00:50:16whatever
00:50:16mess
00:50:16he's
00:50:17in
00:50:17he has
00:50:18this
00:50:19talent
00:50:19to
00:50:20somehow
00:50:20come out
00:50:21of
00:50:21all of
00:50:22these
00:50:22difficulties
00:50:22unharmed
00:50:24unscathed
00:50:25and
00:50:25everything
00:50:26is
00:50:27okay
00:50:27he kind
00:50:28of
00:50:28can
00:50:28just
00:50:28move
00:50:29on
00:50:29it
00:50:29reminds
00:50:29me
00:50:30of
00:50:30one
00:50:30of
00:50:30the
00:50:30people
00:50:31that
00:50:31falls
00:50:31off
00:50:31of
00:50:31a
00:50:32top
00:50:32building
00:50:32a
00:50:32very
00:50:33high
00:50:33building
00:50:33and
00:50:33somehow
00:50:35hits
00:50:36a couple
00:50:36of
00:50:36tents
00:50:37and
00:50:37bounces
00:50:37off
00:50:37some
00:50:38tents
00:50:38walks
00:50:43away
00:50:43it's
00:50:45all
00:50:46chaotic
00:50:46it seems
00:50:46but
00:50:47I don't
00:50:48know
00:50:48I just
00:50:48have
00:50:48this
00:50:49sense
00:50:49that
00:50:49eventually
00:50:50things
00:50:51will
00:50:51somehow
00:50:52work out
00:50:53at least
00:50:53for
00:50:53Trump
00:50:53I think
00:50:54they'll
00:50:54work out
00:50:54I don't
00:50:55know
00:50:55how
00:50:55things
00:50:55are
00:50:56going
00:50:56to
00:50:56shake
00:50:56out
00:50:56for
00:50:57everybody
00:50:57else
00:50:57but
00:50:58it's
00:50:59all
00:50:59Trump
00:50:59in
00:51:00the
00:51:00United
00:51:00States
00:51:01I
00:51:01think
00:51:01that's
00:51:01it
00:51:02I
00:51:03think
00:51:03it's
00:51:04a lot
00:51:04of
00:51:04people
00:51:04are
00:51:05getting
00:51:06very
00:51:06upset
00:51:06very
00:51:07angry
00:51:07with
00:51:08Trump
00:51:08some
00:51:09people
00:51:09are
00:51:09loving
00:51:09what
00:51:10he's
00:51:10doing
00:51:10some
00:51:10people
00:51:10are
00:51:10really
00:51:11getting
00:51:11upset
00:51:11I
00:51:11would
00:51:12just
00:51:12say
00:51:12to
00:51:12wait
00:51:14and
00:51:14see
00:51:14what
00:51:15happens
00:51:15I
00:51:15mean
00:51:16with
00:51:17Russia
00:51:17Ukraine
00:51:17I
00:51:18follow
00:51:18it
00:51:18every
00:51:19day
00:51:19and
00:51:19it's
00:51:21changing
00:51:21every
00:51:2124
00:51:22hours
00:51:22the
00:51:23position
00:51:23but
00:51:23eventually
00:51:24we'll
00:51:24get
00:51:24to
00:51:25where
00:51:25this
00:51:25thing
00:51:25is
00:51:25going
00:51:26yes
00:51:27I
00:51:27just
00:51:27want
00:51:28to
00:51:28say
00:51:28about
00:51:28you
00:51:28following
00:51:28every
00:51:29day
00:51:29you
00:51:29and
00:51:29Alexander
00:51:30do
00:51:30incredible
00:51:31coverage
00:51:31on
00:51:32Ukraine
00:51:32I
00:51:33listen
00:51:38you
00:51:38need
00:51:38to
00:51:38produce
00:51:39less
00:51:39content
00:51:39code
00:51:40both
00:51:40of
00:51:40you
00:51:40because
00:51:40I
00:51:40can't
00:51:41keep
00:51:41up
00:51:41with
00:51:41the
00:51:41rest
00:51:41of
00:51:42it
00:51:42okay
00:51:43so
00:51:44that's
00:51:44you
00:51:44just
00:51:45do
00:51:45too
00:51:45much
00:51:45you
00:51:45need
00:51:45to
00:51:46get
00:51:46out
00:51:46more
00:51:46Mr.
00:51:46Christopher
00:51:47Mr.
00:51:49Cranor
00:51:49anything
00:51:50in the
00:51:50United
00:51:50States
00:51:51I
00:51:51have
00:51:51to
00:51:51agree
00:51:51with
00:51:52the
00:51:52last
00:51:52thing
00:51:52you
00:51:52said
00:51:53Rich
00:51:53and
00:51:54I
00:51:54you
00:51:55know
00:51:55after
00:51:55the
00:51:55German
00:51:56elections
00:51:56I
00:51:57had
00:51:58to
00:51:58put
00:51:58myself
00:51:59through
00:51:59a
00:52:00little
00:52:00bit
00:52:00of
00:52:01mainstream
00:52:01media
00:52:02coverage
00:52:02because
00:52:02I
00:52:03wanted
00:52:03to
00:52:03understand
00:52:03what
00:52:03happened
00:52:04you
00:52:04know
00:52:04and
00:52:05I
00:52:05haven't
00:52:05owned
00:52:05a
00:52:06TV
00:52:06in
00:52:06about
00:52:0610
00:52:06years
00:52:07maybe
00:52:07longer
00:52:08I
00:52:08mean
00:52:08I
00:52:08own
00:52:09the
00:52:09box
00:52:09but
00:52:09it's
00:52:09just
00:52:10not
00:52:10plugged
00:52:10into
00:52:10anything
00:52:10and
00:52:11I
00:52:11don't
00:52:11watch
00:52:11it
00:52:11and
00:52:12so
00:52:12I
00:52:13haven't
00:52:13watched
00:52:13television
00:52:14for a
00:52:15very
00:52:15long
00:52:15time
00:52:16and
00:52:16so
00:52:17now
00:52:17when
00:52:17I
00:52:17watch
00:52:17the
00:52:17coverage
00:52:18to
00:52:18get
00:52:19the
00:52:19sense
00:52:19of
00:52:20what
00:52:20happened
00:52:20in
00:52:20Germany
00:52:20I
00:52:21was
00:52:21absolutely
00:52:22shocked
00:52:22by
00:52:22how
00:52:23lame
00:52:24it
00:52:24is
00:52:24it's
00:52:25insane
00:52:26because
00:52:27I
00:52:27also
00:52:27follow
00:52:28Alex
00:52:28and
00:52:29Alexander
00:52:29and
00:52:30that's
00:52:30how
00:52:31I
00:52:31keep
00:52:31up
00:52:32to
00:52:32date
00:52:32with
00:52:32what's
00:52:32going
00:52:33on
00:52:33in
00:52:33Ukraine
00:52:33and
00:52:34elsewhere
00:52:34I
00:52:35listen
00:52:36to
00:52:36other
00:52:36podcasts
00:52:37as
00:52:37well
00:52:37but
00:52:38I
00:52:38think
00:52:38that
00:52:39the
00:52:39Duran
00:52:40is
00:52:40definitely
00:52:40one
00:52:41of
00:52:41the
00:52:41best
00:52:41in
00:52:42terms
00:52:43of
00:52:43quality
00:52:43of
00:52:43the
00:52:43content
00:52:44in
00:52:44terms
00:52:44of
00:52:44authoritativeness
00:52:46of
00:52:46the
00:52:46opinions
00:52:47that
00:52:47are
00:52:47presented
00:52:48and
00:52:48so
00:52:49when
00:52:49you
00:52:49mentioned
00:52:52webcams
00:52:54versus
00:52:55television
00:52:56where
00:52:56you
00:52:56have
00:52:56all
00:52:56these
00:52:57puppets
00:52:58in
00:52:59expensive
00:52:59suits
00:53:00in
00:53:00these
00:53:01million
00:53:01dollar
00:53:01props
00:53:01it's
00:53:02almost
00:53:03a joke
00:53:03anyway
00:53:04back
00:53:04to
00:53:04your
00:53:04question
00:53:05I
00:53:06think
00:53:07it's
00:53:07very
00:53:07hard
00:53:07to
00:53:08judge
00:53:08what's
00:53:08going
00:53:08on
00:53:08in
00:53:08the
00:53:09United
00:53:09States
00:53:09I
00:53:11think
00:53:12that
00:53:12one
00:53:12of
00:53:12the
00:53:12really
00:53:13relevant
00:53:14questions
00:53:15is
00:53:16is
00:53:18the
00:53:18administration
00:53:19careening
00:53:20left and
00:53:21right
00:53:21and
00:53:21making
00:53:21it
00:53:21up
00:53:22as
00:53:22they
00:53:22go
00:53:22along
00:53:22or
00:53:24are
00:53:25they
00:53:25really
00:53:26clever
00:53:26and
00:53:27they
00:53:27thought
00:53:27things
00:53:27through
00:53:27because
00:53:28you
00:53:29know
00:53:29if
00:53:30they're
00:53:30clever
00:53:30and
00:53:31they
00:53:31thought
00:53:31things
00:53:31through
00:53:31then
00:53:32you
00:53:33might
00:53:33kind
00:53:33of
00:53:34try
00:53:34to
00:53:34think
00:53:34where
00:53:34they're
00:53:35going
00:53:35and
00:53:35try
00:53:35to
00:53:36guess
00:53:36what
00:53:36they're
00:53:37trying
00:53:37to
00:53:37do
00:53:37if
00:53:38they're
00:53:38careening
00:53:38left
00:53:39and
00:53:39right
00:53:39and
00:53:39making
00:53:39up
00:53:40as
00:53:40they
00:53:40go
00:53:40along
00:53:41then
00:53:41there's
00:53:41no
00:53:41guessing
00:53:42what
00:53:42might
00:53:42happen
00:53:43so
00:53:44from
00:53:44what I've
00:53:45been
00:53:45able to
00:53:46find out
00:53:46from
00:53:46other
00:53:46people
00:53:47who
00:53:47claim
00:53:48that
00:53:48they
00:53:48know
00:53:48people
00:53:49in
00:53:49the
00:53:49Trump
00:53:49administration
00:53:50participated
00:53:50in
00:53:51high
00:53:51level
00:53:51meetings
00:53:52blah
00:53:52blah
00:53:52blah
00:53:52it
00:53:53turns
00:53:53out
00:53:53like
00:53:54this
00:53:54Trump
00:53:56is not
00:53:57a deep
00:53:57thinker
00:53:57he doesn't
00:53:58give that
00:53:59impression
00:53:59and so
00:54:00that's
00:54:01not
00:54:01good
00:54:01but
00:54:02I
00:54:03have
00:54:03a
00:54:04first
00:54:05hand
00:54:05testimony
00:54:06from
00:54:07a
00:54:07Croatian
00:54:08politician
00:54:09from
00:54:09Bosnia
00:54:10who
00:54:11went to
00:54:11the
00:54:11United
00:54:11States
00:54:12for a
00:54:12series
00:54:13of
00:54:13meetings
00:54:13not
00:54:14with
00:54:14Trump
00:54:14not
00:54:15with
00:54:15Rubio
00:54:15but
00:54:16with
00:54:16people
00:54:17deeper
00:54:18down
00:54:19in the
00:54:19guts
00:54:20of the
00:54:20administration
00:54:21and
00:54:22he
00:54:22saying
00:54:23I'm
00:54:24very
00:54:24impressed
00:54:24with
00:54:24how
00:54:25well
00:54:25informed
00:54:26and
00:54:26well
00:54:26brief
00:54:26these
00:54:26people
00:54:27are
00:54:27they
00:54:27know
00:54:27the
00:54:27issues
00:54:28in
00:54:28detail
00:54:29and
00:54:30we
00:54:30had
00:54:30very
00:54:30high
00:54:32quality
00:54:32discussions
00:54:33he
00:54:35said
00:54:35when I
00:54:35went
00:54:36there
00:54:36I
00:54:36thought
00:54:36I
00:54:36was
00:54:36going
00:54:36to
00:54:36have
00:54:37to
00:54:37explain
00:54:37to
00:54:37them
00:54:37where
00:54:38Bosnia
00:54:38is
00:54:38on
00:54:38the
00:54:39map
00:54:39and
00:54:39he
00:54:39said
00:54:39I
00:54:39found
00:54:40that
00:54:43at
00:54:49that
00:54:50similar
00:54:50level
00:54:50people
00:54:51are
00:54:52going
00:54:52to
00:54:52have
00:54:52even
00:54:53clearer
00:54:53understanding
00:54:54about
00:54:54what's
00:54:55going
00:54:55on
00:54:55in
00:54:55the
00:54:55Middle
00:54:55East
00:54:55in
00:54:56Ukraine
00:54:56in
00:54:56Europe
00:54:56in
00:54:57Britain
00:54:57in
00:54:58the
00:54:59world
00:54:59of
00:54:59finance
00:54:59and
00:55:00economics
00:55:00and
00:55:00so
00:55:01forth
00:55:01and
00:55:01I
00:55:02think
00:55:02that
00:55:02the
00:55:05person
00:55:05on
00:55:06top
00:55:06is
00:55:08probably
00:55:09going
00:55:09to
00:55:09end
00:55:09up
00:55:10getting
00:55:10some
00:55:10of
00:55:10that
00:55:10advice
00:55:11and
00:55:13it's
00:55:13going
00:55:13to
00:55:13be
00:55:13good
00:55:13advice
00:55:14so
00:55:15I
00:55:18think
00:55:19that
00:55:19what
00:55:21could
00:55:21be
00:55:21behind
00:55:22Trump's
00:55:22make
00:55:22America
00:55:23great
00:55:23again
00:55:23plan
00:55:23it
00:55:27can
00:55:27be
00:55:27this
00:55:28it
00:55:29can
00:55:29be
00:55:30throwing
00:55:31stun
00:55:32grenades
00:55:32left
00:55:32and
00:55:33right
00:55:33to
00:55:33get
00:55:33everybody
00:55:34everybody's
00:55:35hair
00:55:35on
00:55:35fire
00:55:35there's
00:55:36got
00:55:36to
00:55:37be
00:55:37a
00:55:37more
00:55:40ambitious
00:55:40plan
00:55:40to
00:55:41it
00:55:41and
00:55:42I'm
00:55:43starting
00:55:43to
00:55:44think
00:55:44because
00:55:44I'm
00:55:45also
00:55:45listening
00:55:45at
00:55:45the
00:55:46war
00:55:46of
00:55:46words
00:55:47that's
00:55:47kind
00:55:47of
00:55:47gathering
00:55:48between
00:55:48Trump
00:55:49and
00:55:50Jerome
00:55:53Newman
00:55:53the
00:55:54head
00:55:54of
00:55:55the
00:55:55chairman
00:55:56of the
00:55:56federal
00:55:56what did I
00:55:59say
00:56:00you said
00:56:00Jerome
00:56:00Newman
00:56:01I don't
00:56:01know
00:56:02who he
00:56:02is
00:56:02oh
00:56:03sorry
00:56:04I have
00:56:05no idea
00:56:06who he
00:56:06is
00:56:06either
00:56:07Jerome
00:56:09Powell
00:56:09yeah
00:56:09and
00:56:10I
00:56:12wonder
00:56:12if
00:56:12there's
00:56:13a
00:56:14if
00:56:15Trump
00:56:15is
00:56:15planning
00:56:16on
00:56:17taking
00:56:17control
00:56:18of the
00:56:18Federal
00:56:18Reserve
00:56:19Bank
00:56:19which
00:56:21is
00:56:21something
00:56:21they
00:56:22obviously
00:56:22couldn't
00:56:23say
00:56:23out
00:56:25in the
00:56:26open
00:56:26and
00:56:28switching
00:56:29the
00:56:29United
00:56:29States
00:56:30from
00:56:30the
00:56:30British
00:56:30free
00:56:30trade
00:56:31system
00:56:31to
00:56:31the
00:56:32American
00:56:32system
00:56:32of
00:56:33political
00:56:33economy
00:56:33which
00:56:35would
00:56:35be
00:56:35huge
00:56:36actually
00:56:36because
00:56:37all
00:56:38eight
00:56:38US
00:56:39presidents
00:56:39who
00:56:40have
00:56:40been
00:56:40assassinated
00:56:41or
00:56:42mysteriously
00:56:43died
00:56:43while
00:56:44they
00:56:44were
00:56:44in
00:56:44the
00:56:45office
00:56:45were
00:56:47proponents
00:56:47and promoters
00:56:48of the
00:56:48American
00:56:49system
00:56:49of
00:56:49political
00:56:50economy
00:56:50you know
00:56:50the
00:56:50Hamiltonian
00:56:51system
00:56:51where
00:56:51the
00:56:52central
00:56:52bank
00:56:52issues
00:56:53credit
00:56:54for
00:56:55productive
00:56:57uses
00:56:57for
00:56:57the
00:56:58productive
00:56:59economy
00:56:59industrialization
00:57:01of the
00:57:03country
00:57:03so
00:57:04that's
00:57:05a
00:57:05you know
00:57:06if you
00:57:06if he
00:57:07said that
00:57:07out in
00:57:08the
00:57:08open
00:57:08that
00:57:08would
00:57:08be
00:57:09a
00:57:09good
00:57:09way
00:57:09to
00:57:09get
00:57:09himself
00:57:10shot
00:57:10again
00:57:11so
00:57:13if
00:57:14that's
00:57:15the
00:57:15plan
00:57:16then
00:57:17they're
00:57:17not
00:57:17going
00:57:17to
00:57:17tell
00:57:18us
00:57:18so
00:57:18we
00:57:19can't
00:57:20expect
00:57:20that
00:57:21we
00:57:21will
00:57:21pick
00:57:21it
00:57:21up
00:57:21from
00:57:22anybody's
00:57:23statement
00:57:23but
00:57:25I think
00:57:26that we
00:57:26need to
00:57:26pay
00:57:26attention
00:57:27to
00:57:27these
00:57:27to
00:57:30the
00:57:30results
00:57:31of his
00:57:31policies
00:57:32not to
00:57:32what
00:57:32he
00:57:32says
00:57:33but
00:57:33what
00:57:33actually
00:57:33happens
00:57:34and
00:57:35how
00:57:35and the
00:57:36direction
00:57:36which it
00:57:37moves
00:57:37the
00:57:38US
00:57:38economy
00:57:39so
00:57:39things
00:57:40like
00:57:41auditing
00:57:42the
00:57:43members
00:57:43of
00:57:43Congress
00:57:44speaking
00:57:47about
00:57:48nationalizing
00:57:49the Fed
00:57:49taking
00:57:49control
00:57:50of the
00:57:50Fed
00:57:50getting
00:57:51rid
00:57:51of
00:57:51Jerome
00:57:52Powell
00:57:52loosening
00:57:56up the
00:57:56alliances
00:57:57with the
00:57:58European
00:57:58powers
00:57:58increasing
00:58:02cooperation
00:58:03with
00:58:03Russia
00:58:03and
00:58:03China
00:58:04because
00:58:04let's
00:58:05not
00:58:05forget
00:58:05for
00:58:05all
00:58:06the
00:58:06war
00:58:06of
00:58:07words
00:58:07over
00:58:07the
00:58:07terrorists
00:58:08Trump
00:58:08said
00:58:09that
00:58:09he's
00:58:09speaking
00:58:09with
00:58:10Xi
00:58:10Jinping
00:58:10regularly
00:58:11so
00:58:13I think
00:58:14it's
00:58:14possible
00:58:15that
00:58:15there
00:58:16is
00:58:16this
00:58:16kind
00:58:17of
00:58:17a
00:58:17tectonic
00:58:17shift
00:58:18in
00:58:18the
00:58:18works
00:58:18whether
00:58:20it
00:58:20is
00:58:20or
00:58:20not
00:58:20I
00:58:20don't
00:58:20know
00:58:21whether
00:58:21it
00:58:21will
00:58:21be
00:58:21successful
00:58:22or
00:58:22not
00:58:22I
00:58:22don't
00:58:23know
00:58:23but
00:58:24if
00:58:24there's
00:58:24a
00:58:24plan
00:58:25I
00:58:25think
00:58:26that
00:58:26has
00:58:26got
00:58:26to
00:58:26be
00:58:27the
00:58:27plan
00:58:27because
00:58:27I
00:58:27don't
00:58:28know
00:58:28how
00:58:28else
00:58:28you
00:58:28make
00:58:29America
00:58:30great
00:58:30again
00:58:31Thank you
00:58:34Alex
00:58:35Mr.
00:58:36Christopher
00:58:36any last
00:58:37words
00:58:37before we
00:58:37finish
00:58:37up
00:58:38I
00:58:40agree
00:58:41with
00:58:41what
00:58:41Alex
00:58:42said
00:58:43I
00:58:43think
00:58:43it's
00:58:44either
00:58:45you are
00:58:45going
00:58:46to
00:58:46get
00:58:46some
00:58:46very
00:58:48tectonic
00:58:53type
00:58:53of
00:58:53shift
00:58:54from
00:58:54Trump
00:58:55which
00:58:55does
00:58:55move
00:58:56the
00:58:56US
00:58:56in
00:58:57a
00:58:57different
00:58:57direction
00:58:57and
00:58:58maybe
00:58:58that
00:58:58is
00:58:58part
00:58:59of
00:58:59the
00:58:59plan
00:59:00I
00:59:00try
00:59:01to
00:59:01stay
00:59:02away
00:59:02from
00:59:02any
00:59:03type
00:59:03of
00:59:03chess
00:59:03references
00:59:04but
00:59:04yeah
00:59:07something
00:59:07sophisticated
00:59:08is going
00:59:09on
00:59:10which
00:59:10they
00:59:10can't
00:59:11talk
00:59:11about
00:59:11or
00:59:12they
00:59:13are
00:59:13just
00:59:14kind
00:59:14of
00:59:14making
00:59:15it
00:59:15up
00:59:15as
00:59:16they
00:59:16go
00:59:17along
00:59:17so
00:59:20yeah
00:59:20I can
00:59:20definitely
00:59:21see that
00:59:21I think
00:59:21you do
00:59:22have to
00:59:22pay
00:59:22attention
00:59:22to
00:59:23Russia
00:59:24and
00:59:24China
00:59:25and
00:59:25as
00:59:26much
00:59:27as
00:59:27Trump
00:59:28says
00:59:29about
00:59:30China
00:59:30or as
00:59:30much
00:59:31as
00:59:31he
00:59:31talks
00:59:31about
00:59:31them
00:59:31ripping
00:59:32us
00:59:32off
00:59:32and
00:59:32you
00:59:32have
00:59:32the
00:59:33trade
00:59:33and
00:59:33tariff
00:59:33wars
00:59:33and
00:59:34they're
00:59:34doing
00:59:35a lot
00:59:35of
00:59:35damage
00:59:35people
00:59:37always
00:59:37got to
00:59:38remember
00:59:38that
00:59:38Trump
00:59:38always
00:59:39does
00:59:39say
00:59:39I
00:59:39get
00:59:40along
00:59:40with
00:59:41Putin
00:59:41I
00:59:41get
00:59:41along
00:59:41with
00:59:41Xi
00:59:42he
00:59:42doesn't
00:59:43say
00:59:43that
00:59:43about
00:59:43the
00:59:43Europeans
00:59:44he
00:59:45doesn't
00:59:45like
00:59:45the
00:59:46Europeans
00:59:46at
00:59:46all
00:59:46right
00:59:47doesn't
00:59:48like
00:59:48him
00:59:49at
00:59:49all
00:59:49and
00:59:50they
00:59:50hate
00:59:50him
00:59:50equally
00:59:51right
00:59:51they
00:59:52hate
00:59:52him
00:59:53just
00:59:53as
00:59:53much
00:59:53so
00:59:54there
00:59:55could
00:59:55be
00:59:55something
00:59:55very
00:59:56big
00:59:57at
00:59:57play
00:59:58and
00:59:59no
00:59:59doubt
01:00:00that
01:00:00Trump
01:00:00I
01:00:01still
01:00:01believe
01:00:01that
01:00:01Trump
01:00:02once
01:00:03again
01:00:03hate
01:00:03him
01:00:04or
01:00:04love
01:00:04him
01:00:04came
01:00:06in
01:00:06with
01:00:07a
01:00:07vision
01:00:08with
01:00:08an
01:00:08idea
01:00:09of
01:00:10re-industrializing
01:00:11the United
01:00:11States
01:00:11what that
01:00:11means
01:00:12we could
01:00:13do
01:00:13a whole
01:00:14other
01:00:14two
01:00:14three
01:00:14hour
01:00:14video
01:00:15on
01:00:15that
01:00:15but
01:00:15in
01:00:16his
01:00:16mind
01:00:16and
01:00:17I
01:00:17agree
01:00:17he's
01:00:17not
01:00:17a
01:00:17deep
01:00:18thinker
01:00:18but
01:00:18in
01:00:18his
01:00:18mind
01:00:19he's
01:00:20an
01:00:21instinctual
01:00:21thinker
01:00:23and he
01:00:23thinks
01:00:24with his
01:00:24gut
01:00:24and I
01:00:25think
01:00:25that's
01:00:25very
01:00:25American
01:00:26as
01:00:26well
01:00:26to
01:00:27think
01:00:27with
01:00:27your
01:00:27gut
01:00:28and
01:00:28to
01:00:28go
01:00:29for
01:00:29things
01:00:29in
01:00:29that
01:00:30kind
01:00:30of
01:00:30way
01:00:30he
01:00:32was
01:00:32thinking
01:00:33re-industrialization
01:00:34make
01:00:35America
01:00:35great
01:00:35again
01:00:35let's
01:00:36re-industrialize
01:00:37let's
01:00:37bring
01:00:37the
01:00:38jobs
01:00:38back
01:00:38and
01:00:39all
01:00:40of
01:00:40these
01:00:40things
01:00:40right
01:00:42okay
01:00:43I
01:00:43just
01:00:43wanted
01:00:44to
01:00:44throw
01:00:44one more
01:00:45thing
01:00:45before
01:00:45we
01:00:46go
01:00:46because
01:00:46it
01:00:46you
01:00:48know
01:00:48like
01:00:48a
01:00:48concrete
01:00:48example
01:00:49where
01:00:49the
01:00:50top
01:00:50level
01:00:50narrative
01:00:51doesn't
01:00:52match
01:00:52the
01:00:52let's
01:00:53call
01:00:53it
01:00:53middle
01:00:54level
01:00:54sophistication
01:00:55right
01:00:56because
01:00:56for example
01:00:57in this
01:00:58war of
01:00:58words
01:00:58with
01:00:59China
01:00:59we
01:01:00often
01:01:00get
01:01:00the
01:01:00fentanyl
01:01:02story
01:01:02and the
01:01:03epidemic
01:01:04of
01:01:04overdose
01:01:05deaths
01:01:05in the
01:01:05United
01:01:06States
01:01:06and
01:01:06it's
01:01:07all
01:01:07China
01:01:07China
01:01:07China
01:01:07because
01:01:08they
01:01:08are
01:01:08smuggling
01:01:08all
01:01:09this
01:01:09fentanyl
01:01:09and
01:01:09blah
01:01:09blah
01:01:10blah
01:01:10well
01:01:10most
01:01:11of
01:01:11the
01:01:11drugs
01:01:11and
01:01:12the
01:01:12chemicals
01:01:13used
01:01:13in
01:01:13production
01:01:15of
01:01:15pharmaceutical
01:01:16drugs
01:01:16comes
01:01:17from
01:01:17China
01:01:17including
01:01:18the
01:01:20compounds
01:01:21that are
01:01:21used
01:01:21to
01:01:22synthesize
01:01:22fentanyl
01:01:23so
01:01:24it's
01:01:24not
01:01:24necessarily
01:01:25a
01:01:26deliberate
01:01:26malicious
01:01:27smuggling
01:01:29operation
01:01:29by
01:01:30China
01:01:31as
01:01:31you
01:01:32get
01:01:32through
01:01:32the
01:01:33high
01:01:34level
01:01:34narrative
01:01:34but
01:01:35then
01:01:35I
01:01:35listened
01:01:35to
01:01:36an
01:01:36interview
01:01:36with
01:01:36an
01:01:37American
01:01:38I
01:01:39forget
01:01:39the
01:01:40name
01:01:40or
01:01:40his
01:01:40position
01:01:41but
01:01:41he
01:01:41was
01:01:41one
01:01:42of
01:01:42the
01:01:42people
01:01:42investigating
01:01:44this
01:01:44drug
01:01:45smuggling
01:01:45operation
01:01:46and then
01:01:47they
01:01:47busted
01:01:47the
01:01:48largest
01:01:48ever
01:01:49fentanyl
01:01:50lab
01:01:50not
01:01:50in
01:01:51Mexico
01:01:51but
01:01:52in
01:01:52Canada
01:01:52and
01:01:54what
01:01:55I've
01:01:55been
01:01:55trying
01:01:55to
01:01:56impress
01:01:59on
01:01:59people
01:02:00in my
01:02:01sub-stack
01:02:01articles
01:02:02and elsewhere
01:02:02is that
01:02:03if you
01:02:04want to
01:02:04break
01:02:04the
01:02:06drug
01:02:06cartels
01:02:07you have
01:02:08to
01:02:08attack
01:02:09the
01:02:09money
01:02:10laundering
01:02:10banks
01:02:10they
01:02:11are
01:02:11the
01:02:11ones
01:02:12who
01:02:12hold
01:02:12the
01:02:13whole
01:02:13organizations
01:02:14together
01:02:15and
01:02:16nobody's
01:02:17talking
01:02:17about
01:02:17this
01:02:18but
01:02:18this
01:02:18guy
01:02:19who
01:02:19obviously
01:02:20investigated
01:02:20the
01:02:21issue
01:02:21researched
01:02:22the
01:02:22issue
01:02:22understands
01:02:24the
01:02:24problems
01:02:24he
01:02:25actually
01:02:26went
01:02:26into
01:02:27the
01:02:28whole
01:02:28money
01:02:29laundering
01:02:29bank
01:02:30issues
01:02:30and
01:02:30identified
01:02:31the
01:02:31money
01:02:32laundering
01:02:32banks
01:02:32as
01:02:33the
01:02:33main
01:02:33culprits
01:02:34so
01:02:35it
01:02:35means
01:02:35that
01:02:35you
01:02:36know
01:02:36here
01:02:36it's
01:02:36China
01:02:37China
01:02:37China
01:02:37but
01:02:38down
01:02:39here
01:02:39in the
01:02:39hierarchy
01:02:39it's
01:02:40like
01:02:40yeah
01:02:41it's
01:02:42coming
01:02:42not only
01:02:42from
01:02:43Mexico
01:02:43it's
01:02:43coming
01:02:43from
01:02:43Canada
01:02:44you know
01:02:44where the
01:02:45prime minister
01:02:45swears
01:02:45allegiance
01:02:46to the
01:02:46king
01:02:46in
01:02:47London
01:02:48and
01:02:49then
01:02:49they
01:02:50understand
01:02:50that
01:02:50the
01:02:50money
01:02:51laundering
01:02:51banks
01:02:51are
01:02:52the
01:02:52actual
01:02:53godfathers
01:02:55of the
01:02:56whole
01:02:56organization
01:02:56and
01:02:58so
01:02:58there
01:02:58you
01:02:58go
01:02:58you
01:02:58know
01:02:59somebody
01:03:00knows
01:03:00and
01:03:02so
01:03:02what's
01:03:05going
01:03:05on
01:03:05what's
01:03:06being
01:03:06done
01:03:06day
01:03:06to
01:03:06day
01:03:06in
01:03:07these
01:03:07in
01:03:07these
01:03:07in
01:03:08these
01:03:08struggles
01:03:09we
01:03:09don't
01:03:09know
01:03:10but
01:03:10there's
01:03:11some
01:03:12evidence
01:03:12that
01:03:13they're
01:03:13not
01:03:13being
01:03:13stupid
01:03:14that
01:03:14they're
01:03:15actually
01:03:15that
01:03:18there's
01:03:18actually
01:03:19sophisticated
01:03:21thinking
01:03:22that's
01:03:24available
01:03:24to the
01:03:25administration
01:03:25in
01:03:26their
01:03:27command
01:03:28and
01:03:28control
01:03:28hierarchy
01:03:29yep
01:03:30and then
01:03:30the
01:03:30money
01:03:30laundering
01:03:31banks
01:03:31in
01:03:32canada
01:03:32we
01:03:33follow
01:03:33the
01:03:33money
01:03:34trail
01:03:34back
01:03:35to
01:03:35the
01:03:35city
01:03:35of
01:03:35London
01:03:36and
01:03:37we've
01:03:37done
01:03:37a
01:03:38round
01:03:38trip
01:03:38from
01:03:39the
01:03:40UK
01:03:40back
01:03:41to
01:03:41the
01:03:41UK
01:03:41as
01:03:42we
01:03:42finish
01:03:42up
01:03:43Alex
01:03:44well
01:03:44it
01:03:44would
01:03:44be
01:03:45you
01:03:45know
01:03:45it
01:03:45would
01:03:45be
01:03:45one
01:03:46of
01:03:46the
01:03:46traditionally
01:03:47used
01:03:47tools
01:03:47of
01:03:48foreign
01:03:48policy
01:03:48for
01:03:50the
01:03:51last
01:03:51200
01:03:51years
01:03:52yep
01:03:52yep
01:03:52yep
01:03:53yep
01:03:54yep
01:03:54Alex
01:03:54thank
01:03:55you
01:03:55thank
01:03:55you
01:03:55Alex
01:03:55is
01:03:56thank
01:03:56you
01:03:56thank
01:03:57you
01:03:57links
01:03:58in the
01:03:58description
01:03:58below
01:03:59and I
01:03:59just want
01:04:00to say
01:04:00just what
01:04:01you said
01:04:01about the
01:04:01duran
01:04:02earlier
01:04:02right
01:04:02one of
01:04:02the
01:04:02things
01:04:03that's
01:04:03really
01:04:03great
01:04:04about
01:04:04the
01:04:04duran
01:04:04is
01:04:05it's
01:04:05smart
01:04:06insightful
01:04:07analysis
01:04:07and
01:04:08opinion
01:04:08and you
01:04:09know
01:04:09you
01:04:10and
01:04:11Alexander
01:04:11you don't
01:04:12rubbish
01:04:12people
01:04:13I remember
01:04:15before
01:04:15Trump
01:04:15became
01:04:16was
01:04:16elected
01:04:16the
01:04:17Guardian
01:04:17you know
01:04:18convicted
01:04:19criminal
01:04:19Trump
01:04:20convicted
01:04:20criminal
01:04:21Trump
01:04:21every
01:04:22single
01:04:22time
01:04:23they
01:04:23mentioned
01:04:23his
01:04:24name
01:04:24they smeared
01:04:25him
01:04:25you guys
01:04:26don't
01:04:26do
01:04:26that
01:04:26it's
01:04:26like
01:04:26okay
01:04:27this
01:04:27guy
01:04:27is
01:04:27like
01:04:27this
01:04:27this
01:04:28is
01:04:28what
01:04:28they're
01:04:28doing
01:04:29this
01:04:29is
01:04:29what
01:04:29you
01:04:29think
01:04:29it
01:04:29might
01:04:29be
01:04:30just
01:04:30the
01:04:30sort
01:04:30of
01:04:30smart
01:04:31analysis
01:04:31that
01:04:32used
01:04:32to be
01:04:32commonplace
01:04:32in the
01:04:33mainstream
01:04:33media
01:04:33so it's
01:04:34really
01:04:34really great
01:04:35worth taking a listen
01:04:35to and Alex
01:04:36thank you
01:04:36thank you
01:04:37thank you
01:04:37thank you
01:04:38all
01:04:38links in the
01:04:38description
01:04:39below
01:04:39please
01:04:39share
01:04:40this
01:04:40video
01:04:40far
01:04:40and
01:04:40wide
01:04:41all
01:04:42the
01:04:42best
01:04:43bye
01:04:43bye
01:04:43bye
01:04:43thank
01:04:44you
01:04:44thank

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