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00:00Dibs came in here yesterday. You thought the Amin Thompson play that injured Jimmy was dirty or leaning in that direction.
00:09No, dirty. And you can say it because I've gotten over 385 Twitter responses.
00:14Oh, good.
00:15And about half of them are like, yeah, Dibs, stand on it. Stand on what you say.
00:19And the other 185 have been...
00:22Stand on what you do.
00:22Yeah, you're a C, a P, a D, an N.
00:27A C, C, P, D, N.
00:29I've been hit with all kinds of consonants.
00:32If there's a consonant...
00:33You need a vowel, dude. You can make some words out of this.
00:35Well, I got hit with an A.
00:36You gotta buy a vowel.
00:37I got hit with an I.
00:40Idiot.
00:40And what does that spell?
00:42Yeah, I don't know.
00:45It's a great question.
00:46Anyway.
00:47Anyhow, was this word all of a sudden?
00:48Listen, I thought, and again, as I said, I don't like the word inadvertent.
00:52That made it sound a little bit too innocent.
00:54That's what Steve said.
00:55Yeah, I didn't think it was dirty.
00:57But that's obviously the question that comes up in both teams' shoot-arounds today.
01:02And wouldn't you know it?
01:04No one other than Mr. Dylan Brooks.
01:07Grandy, your little Oregon schmuck.
01:10Whoa.
01:10Dylan Brooks.
01:11The Oregon schmucks.
01:12Yeah.
01:13Yeah.
01:14You know what O stands for now?
01:16Oh, no, you didn't.
01:19Also a two, but go ahead.
01:20No, I'm actually...
01:21I'm having fun.
01:22What does O stand for, Willard?
01:23No, I'll take what Dib's answer is.
01:25It's fine.
01:25Yeah.
01:26It was kind of a choose-your-own-adventure setup.
01:29Yeah, I did not see an obvious answer there.
01:31No.
01:31Or maybe that's what O stands for, obvious.
01:35Maybe.
01:35I don't know.
01:36I just know that hearing Dylan Brooks say something like this made me laugh.
01:43So he was asked, hey, your teammate, Amon Thompson, is he dirty?
01:49Here's what Dylan said.
01:50No, I think a dirty player is dream on and give him a little push, as regular basketball
01:56players do.
01:57And Jimmy's fighting the air for a rebound, and that stuff happens.
02:01You know, a man's not a dirty player.
02:02He has no anything to do with being a dirty player.
02:07We're not worried about that.
02:08We're out there in the next game.
02:10And we hope Jimmy can get better.
02:13We hope Jimmy can get better.
02:14So that was a nice little kumbaya there at the end by Dylan Brooks.
02:18Right.
02:19There's a lot of dribbling going on in the background.
02:21Dylan Brooks says, no, we don't think Amon Thompson is dirty.
02:25We think that the dirty player is Draymond for giving him that little shove, which all
02:30of us have watched a thousand times.
02:32And I'm sorry, if you think, if you, again, I'm not calling the play dirty, but if you
02:36think Draymond shoved Amon Thompson, your glasses need a little, one of those little rags to
02:43wipe them off.
02:43You're not seeing this clearly.
02:45There's absolutely no shove.
02:47There is maybe a tangle a little bit, but there's no shove from Draymond Green.
02:53It doesn't even matter.
02:54Here's the larger issue.
02:56Dylan Brooks, referring to another player as dirty, has got to win comment of the year.
03:05It has to.
03:07He just won an ESPY.
03:08Right.
03:08For the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard an athlete say in my entire life.
03:14The pot calling the kettle dirty.
03:18Yes.
03:18Essentially.
03:19That's basically what that is.
03:20Yes.
03:20So a guy who is known for one of the worst fouls in recent playoff history, where he went
03:27up and took a shot at a player in the air from behind to the head and literally caused
03:34GP2 to miss what a week or two weeks with more math.
03:38It was probably two weeks.
03:39Yeah.
03:39Something like that.
03:39I don't have the exact game log in front of me.
03:41And he's going to be the one to say that Draymond Green is dirty for pushing Amon Thompson,
03:47even though, and if you want to think that Amon Thompson stumbled and lost his balance,
03:53okay, he might have.
03:55He tripped over his teammate.
03:57Draymond Green did not push him, in my opinion, and I was not on the floor.
04:02I was not in Houston.
04:03All I can go by is what I saw on the tape.
04:06And Draymond Green does not outwardly push Amon Thompson into Jimmy Butler.
04:11Not at all.
04:11Not at all.
04:12Again, I'm not calling the play dirty.
04:14I'm calling Dylan Brooks disingenuous.
04:16That's what I'm saying.
04:19I got no problem if you want to defend your teammate, Dylan.
04:22Yeah.
04:23We don't think Amon is a dirty player, and I don't think it was a dirty play.
04:27Unfortunate thing happened to Jimmy, but bodies got tangled.
04:31Everyone's going for position.
04:32He lost his balance and fell into Jimmy Butler, and we hope Jimmy's getting better.
04:35Real easy answer.
04:37For you to call somebody else dirty is just patently ridiculous.
04:41And by the way, Moses Moody was asked about it today at Warriors Shootaround.
04:46Hey, you're Dylan Brooks called Draymond Green, the dirty player.
04:52Moody just smirked and looked at the reporter and said, this is a little ironic, isn't it?
05:00Don't you think?
05:01Right.
05:02Don't you know?
05:03And yeah.
05:03Don't you think?
05:04And yes, it is more than ironic that a guy who has been, you know, in Draymond, too.
05:10I'm not going to dismiss Draymond from, like, if you wanted to do a dirty play, if you wanted
05:16to do, like, dirty play versus dirty play, Draymond would win on volume.
05:21He's been in the league longer, and he's had more what I would consider dirty plays.
05:26Yes, but it makes it, for me, to where neither one of them should be talking about either
05:31one in that way.
05:33No, no.
05:33Agreed.
05:33Draymond Green should not call anybody else a dirty player, and I don't, to my memory,
05:37I don't think he ever has.
05:38No.
05:39Nor did he in the postgame in Game 2.
05:41Yeah, exactly.
05:43See, and that's kind of the thing, you know.
05:45We were talking about that yesterday, about the idea that, oh, Steph and Draymond said
05:49Game 2 was less physical, and they're not complaining about it, so therefore, we can't
05:54complain about it.
05:54Yes, we can, but Steph and Draymond are never going to do that.
05:58They're never going to do that.
05:59To me, ultimate sign of not being a champion is heading to a press conference after a game
06:08to complain about what the other team is doing to you.
06:12Like, there are ways to combat that, and you can complain behind the scenes if you want,
06:18but I can't think of anything weaker than coming off the court, not liking what you just
06:24saw, and thinking to yourself, yeah, you know what I'm going to do?
06:29I'm going to go have a press conference.
06:32That'll teach them.
06:35Like, come on, man.
06:36Draymond and Steph aren't going to do that.
06:38These dudes are champs.
06:38They've been around every block that the NBA has to offer.
06:42They'll never do it.
06:43Doesn't matter what you do to them.
06:45So, anyway, Mr. B in Santa Clara.
06:49Hi, Mr. B.
06:50Thanks for calling.
06:51What's up?
06:55Mr. B.
06:58Man, got to go back on hold now.
07:00Mr. B.
07:01I hate that.
07:02They're going to put your phone in your pocket, and all you do is call in, and then just give
07:05us...
07:06Oh, yeah.
07:07Let's go to Jonathan in the city.
07:09Hi, Jonathan.
07:10What's up?
07:12Hey, good afternoon, guys.
07:13I just want to say, man, first of all, that's a dirty play.
07:16And if you look at the replay, and you look at it closely in slow-mo, amen, Thompson, that
07:22trash AF player.
07:24Even give him a good shove on his way down with both of his arms hitting Jimmy right on
07:29his right leg, he's like, for good measure, make sure he falls as awkwardly as possible.
07:35And what baffles me, what grinds my, my, my noggins is that in today's SOSC NBA, why is
07:43this being allowed?
07:44The last time I saw this kind of brand of basketball, it was the piston bad voice.
07:48You know, so it's like, and a lot of the things that are, the Warriors were doing is in retaliation
07:55to what they were doing.
07:57I watched the game again, and, and, and they were putting elbows on the Warriors' rib cage
08:02on the neck, and this happened all game long.
08:06So, Adam Silver, what are we doing, man?
08:08Are we soft, or are we dirty?
08:10You know, they're right.
08:11Game one was a physical brand of basketball.
08:15Game two was not physical.
08:16It was dirty.
08:18There's my only issue with this, Jonathan.
08:21I mean, if we want to spotlight, and thanks, if we want to spotlight one play, fine, we can
08:25spotlight one play.
08:27I'm going to push back when anybody goes, hey, the Warriors were innocent, but then they
08:32started doing it because they were, they, they had to retaliate to what the Rockets
08:35were doing.
08:36Don't do it.
08:37It, like, I'm sorry, for the first time in my life, I'm going to call someone else out
08:41for being a homer.
08:42Don't, don't, don't do it.
08:43This is breaking.
08:44Do not do that.
08:45Do not, do not watch your team's game and think they're innocent flowers who were forced
08:52into being mean because the other team was mean first.
08:55Have you watched any of these playoffs?
08:57You and I sat here in front of that Pistons-Knicks game last night where everybody hated each
09:02other 38 seconds into the game.
09:04I think it was a brawl.
09:05It was a brawl the entire night.
09:07Did anybody watch Lou Dort against Ja Morant last night?
09:12Ja's out.
09:13He's out.
09:14Yep, he's out.
09:14He's already out for game four.
09:16Yep.
09:16And so is Memphis.
09:18Done.
09:19Night-night.
09:20Series over.
09:21They were up by almost 30 points in that game.
09:2426 at the half, Mark.
09:25And it went up from there.
09:27Yep.
09:27And they lost the game and they lost their star player and he's already been ruled out for
09:31tomorrow night.
09:32Yep.
09:32And they weren't going to win the series anyway, so who cares?
09:35But still.
09:36Still.
09:36This is happening with every team, every series, every night.
09:41If you want to say that league and Adam Silver need to do something about the larger point,
09:46that's fine.
09:47I don't think, like, we can talk about Dylan as an individual, we can talk about Amen Thompson's
09:52play as an individual play.
09:54I don't really like the idea that the Rockets are dirty and the Warriors are super nice, clean
09:59guys who actually went to retirement homes all day long and talked to everybody and then
10:03they go to the basketball game after that and they're hoping for a non-contact sport,
10:08but they were forced into it because the Rockets are mean.
10:10Don't do that.
10:11No, it's NBA and, you know, you want to talk about physicality and then you can talk about
10:16what I believe are plays that go beyond the pale and there was a play off the ball where
10:22Pods got a two-hand push in the back and he got thrown to the ground.
10:26No call.
10:26And it didn't mean that he was going to get injured, but it's just one of those things
10:30where you look at a play like that and you think, okay, I mean, what are we really
10:34refereeing?
10:36What are we adjudicating?
10:37And Steph Curry off the ball is getting held and the rest of it.
10:39And so I know every game is different.
10:41It's its own unique animal.
10:43And so maybe game three, the crew decides that they're going to be much more diligent
10:47about refereeing all the actions, but I'm kind of with you about like the Warriors.
10:53You can look at many things independently.
10:56Draymond Green is physical and he's had a history of dirty plays, cheap plays, like longer
11:03than your arm.
11:05And at the same time, for me, what Amen Thompson did is dirty.
11:10And you don't have to like conflate it with Draymond Green.
11:14For me, it's the one incident.
11:16And for me, the one incident, Amen Thompson going underneath Jimmy Butler unnecessarily
11:21not reviewed.
11:22I thought it was dirty.
11:23That has nothing to do with Draymond Green and Shangoon and Nurkic and Steven Adams and LeBron
11:31James and the finals and all the rest of it, this one thing was the one thing.
11:36That was my one thing.
11:38Okay.
11:38There you go.
11:39Shout out Odyssey.
11:40You have to do that on one day.
11:41Don't do it on two days.
11:42It's one thing.
11:43Yeah, my bad.
11:44Sorry.
11:44I missed that day.
11:45Anyway, that's okay.
11:47Nobody understands the joke.
11:49You do.
11:49That's fine.
11:50I agree with you.
11:53And it is, to me, similar to the point that I was trying to drive home yesterday with regard
11:59to the way Steph Curry gets guarded, as opposed to general physicality.
12:05Look, general physicality in the playoffs is not going away.
12:09It's here.
12:10It's in every series.
12:11It's not going away.
12:13And by the way, whoever does not participate loses in four games.
12:17You lose.
12:18Yeah.
12:18That's it.
12:19You lose if you don't want to participate.
12:22So general physicality will be there.
12:24Want to talk about specific plays being dirty or a specific strategic process, which is what
12:32I see as far as the way they guard Steph Curry.
12:35And I don't even see that as dirty.
12:36I just see it as like against the rules and not really being enforced with the whole arm
12:41bars and constantly grabbing him around the waist kind of a thing, which has clearly been
12:45coached by the Rockets and other teams as well.
12:49But I think the Rockets are a little more forceful with it and be just good at it because they
12:54are.
12:54They're a good defensive team and they're getting away with it.
12:57And so I want to talk about that because I do think the public and the media at large,
13:02the more they talk about that, then I do think the more of an issue it becomes, the more eyeballs
13:07and ears the league has on it and therefore maybe the more prepared the officials are for it.
13:13They do have meetings where they talk about, hey, we need to look for this, that and the
13:17other in this specific matchup.
13:19And I certainly hope whoever gets assigned to tomorrow night's game meets about that
13:24at about two o'clock.
13:25Let's watch for the Rockets arm bars on Steph Curry because they did it all night long in game two
13:33and it's against the rules.
13:35That's all.
13:36It is.
13:36It depends on the crew.
13:37And like we've talked about ad nauseum, each crew is going to try to officiate the best way
13:43that they can.
13:43And if there are 90 possessions for the Warriors in a game, and if you are going to hold Steph
13:49Curry, let's say 60 times, because he's not in for every possession, but let's say he's
13:54out there for 60 offensive possessions and you hold him 60 times and you foul him 60 times,
14:01you're not going to call it 60 times.
14:03You can.
14:04Or 50.
14:05You're allowed to.
14:06Or 40.
14:06Yeah.
14:07Or 30.
14:07Or 20.
14:08But can you call it 10 times?
14:10If you call it 10 times, the Rockets lose.
14:12Of course.
14:12The Rockets lose.
14:13But that for me is the bigger point.
14:15And we can do this the other way, which is, all right, Shang-Goon, when he's getting guarded
14:19by Draymond Green and Draymond's going to have an arm in his back, an arm around him.
14:24Well, that's a foul.
14:26Absolutely.
14:26And, you know, if it's Kavon or if it's a switch and it's Steph, like we can call it
14:30both ways all the time.
14:32There's a fine line.
14:33There's a balance.
14:34And I do think, to your point, that we're a little bit out of balance with a player who
14:38is so good at moving.
14:40And if his movement is being restricted, then what are we even doing here?
14:44I'm on the Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
14:48Check this one out.
14:49You'll love this.
14:50Hey, Willard, the whole game, they were dirty, not physical.
14:53They were elbowing everyone.
14:54Again, watch the games, Willard.
14:57Not watch it like my mother when cooking.
14:59Oh, boy.
14:59First of all, you don't need to get sexist on the text line.
15:03And secondly, there's nothing wrong with cooking at all.
15:06I hope you do have some food with a game that starts at 630 at night.
15:09That's called dinner.
15:11Third of all, I don't miss a damn play.
15:14No.
15:14And fourth of all, you're doing the wrong thing.
15:17You're doing the thing.
15:18Don't do the thing.
15:20Don't be the fan that thinks your team just spends all day doing charity work
15:26and all of the other teams that are in these NBA playoffs are mean.
15:31They're just mean bullies.
15:33But my Warriors, oh, my Warriors are kind.
15:36They're kind.
15:37I think they're going to the hospital tomorrow before the game
15:39so that they can visit with sick children.
15:41Yeah.
15:41And then they will go to the game and they will ask the Rockets kindly
15:44if we could just have a contact-free game.
15:47We're begging you to do that because we think that that's how basketball
15:50should be played.
15:51Maybe you're not watching the game because I saw one possession
15:54where Steph Curry was on the weak side and he had a small basket of canned goods
15:59and he was handing them out into the crowd and Dylan Brooks came over
16:04and smacked that can out of his hand.
16:06That's a foul.
16:07It is.
16:08It's a foul.
16:09Yeah.
16:09But Kevon Looney had jumper cables on one possession.
16:13I mean, they wouldn't let him charge up a car.
16:15I'm with you.
16:17Which is like not letting a thing have its purpose in life.
16:20Totally.
16:21And I don't like that.
16:22What about Jalen Green's elbow to Draymond's face?
16:24Yeah, no.
16:25You want to call out individual dirty plays or things that are over the line,
16:31let's do it.
16:32And by the way, that was reviewed and called flagrant.
16:35So we're good here.
16:36But I'm not going to do the Rockets are dirty and the Warriors are nice.
16:40I'm not doing that.
16:42I just won't.
16:43Draymond Green plays for the Warriors.
16:45Like, even I've got a line for crying out loud.
16:47For sure.
16:48Like, come on.
16:49Well, I think a better way to describe it is the Warriors are physical and the Rockets
16:55are more physical.
16:56And if there's a line between the two of physical and then dirty,
17:01I do think that the Rockets have crossed that line more than the Warriors have in this series.
17:05That's fair.
17:06And I'm not going to go back to the history of Draymond Green because,
17:08and nobody's been more adamant about Draymond Green's dirty play on the station than me
17:14over the course of, I don't know, his whole career.
17:17I've called out each and every act in practice, on the court, and all the rest of it.
17:22You'd be nice to the NBA's Hustle Player of the Year.
17:26What's he going to do?
17:27Hustle over here and, like, give me a flagrant two?
17:30Hustle over here and stand on business.
17:32I doubt it.
17:33No, I don't.
17:34I don't.
17:35Then we've got to fight.
17:36There you go.
17:37888-957-957.
17:38He's always told me to stand on it, and I will stand on it.
17:42Stand on it!
17:43He's committed some of the most flagrant, cheap shot fouls in the last 10 years.
17:50These are facts.
17:51I'm just going to say that.
17:52He's Draymond Green.
17:53My name's Dan Dibley, and I'm standing on business, and that's in his past,
17:58but I'm talking about this series.
18:00Stand on what you say.
18:01Stand on what you do.
18:03There you go.
18:03Yeah, two games in, he's not been that guy in the series.
18:07No, he's not.
18:08Boy, he was terrible in game two.
18:09He was terrible.
18:10Greg Cosell, NFL Films, for the entire 3 o'clock hour in less than 10 minutes, okay?
18:16Mikel Williams, pass rusher out of Georgia, the Niners pick.
18:19Round two starts in about an hour.
18:21We'll be all over it.
18:22But plenty of Warrior basketball today, too.
18:24Let's go to Paul and Cupertino.
18:26Hi, Paul.
18:28Hey, guys.
18:29How are you?
18:30What's up?
18:30Thanks for calling.
18:31Hey, you know, I agree that, you know, Warriors aren't, you know, angels when it comes to
18:40this, but the question is, how much physicality will the referees allow?
18:44And, you know, that, with Amon Thompson, it was more of a desperation move, breaking through
18:51a block and then stumbling out.
18:54You know, it's uncontrolled play.
18:57And I think, at best, it's an uncontrolled play.
19:00I don't think he imagined he would fall into Jimmy, but it's uncontrolled.
19:05And that should be called because then this gets into more of a football scrum rather than
19:12a basketball play.
19:14You know, at every rebound, people are just holding other people down.
19:20I think Draymond may be, you know, egregious.
19:25You know, he does egregious fouls, but I don't think the Warriors' style of play is one where
19:31you are always holding, blocking every little play to a point where it should be a foul, you
19:38know?
19:39That's my pick.
19:39Yeah, Paul, I hear you.
19:42Every team's got little quirks and differences to their style and what they're trying to
19:48do.
19:48Are the Rockets more physical than the Warriors?
19:52Like, I can't firmly say yes.
19:54I know that's the perception.
19:56It's the perception.
19:57And I do think it's probable due to the fact that they are less, like, ball-skilled than the
20:04Warriors.
20:05Warriors, they're a very, very poor or at least inconsistent shooting team.
20:09I know Jalen Green didn't look like it in game two.
20:12But when you don't have the same level of ball skills, then yes, you're probably going
20:17to resort to some other things that you have found that help you win basketball games.
20:23And the Rockets do that.
20:24But the Warriors are a great defensive team, and they are just fine with physicality.
20:31And they are too.
20:32Yeah.
20:32Absolutely.
20:33And if you look at the regular season between the two teams, defensively, metrics-wise,
20:38they're almost identical.
20:40Fouls per game, they're almost identical.
20:42So to think that one team is more physical than the other over 82 and a better defender
20:48than the other over 82 is just wrong.
20:50Now, in this series, we've seen a couple of egregious fouls called and not called against
20:56Houston.
20:57And that's where I think fans are starting to, like, you know, fixate their mind.