On "Forbes Newsroom," Don Clemmer, a writer and former staffer with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, discussed the life and legacy of Pope Francis.
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00:00in the papal sense. I would love to just get your thoughts on Pope Francis and his legacy.
00:07What, in your view, in your mind, will stand out about his years as pope?
00:13Well, Pope Francis was a source of tremendous renewal. He kind of invited the church to
00:18return to its roots in the gospel when he gave the little stump speech that they all
00:25kind of give as they're discerning together. Well, one, he only used three minutes of his
00:30allotted five minutes, which endeared him a lot to the other cardinals. But he used the image of,
00:37we hear about Jesus knocking on the door of the human heart, but we always assume he's knocking
00:42from the outside. He used the image of like, Jesus wants to get out in the world and transform it.
00:47And that I really think you found in his pontificate and these constant calls for a church that is more
00:55merciful, a church that accompanies people where they are in the messiness of their lives, a church
00:59that is joyful, a church that is humble. These are all kind of massive macro brushstrokes, but which
01:08have all kinds of implications for how people encounter the gospel and the church in their day-to-day
01:16lives.
01:18And of course, I think the overarching question about what happens next is how much will the
01:24Vatican and the church writ large want to continue that legacy? But that's the existential question.
01:30Let's get into the process. So practically speaking, what happens now? The funeral was
01:36announced to be on Saturday. Is there an interim pope for the time being?
01:42No. By and large, governance questions go to the College of Cardinals as a whole.
01:48Most, nearly all Vatican officials, for the time being, lose their title. Like nobody really
01:56has a job right now. There's an official called the Camerlingo who sees to some of the matters
02:02of the transition, but really the cardinals are doing interim management right now.
02:07The end of the process of the event of the tradition will be in a small town. The place that
02:10is just now that it isč±é in the long term and that it may be taken away from the
02:12national crossing of the church. The 14th of the church is 16th of the church who
02:12was as a baby of the church and the church to celebrate the church. The 15th of the church
02:15has been in a large town in 19th of the church to celebrate the church. The 15th of the church
02:17is the 16th of the Church. And you've been in a tiny city where you've seen a
02:19good community of the church, but you can still be a little about it. Then you're about it.
02:19The 15th of the church and the church gets a little bit off the church as a