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00:00Are you getting to a point where you're sort of uncomfortable with the level of confidence that you're hearing, whether it's from fans, media, the team itself, like, is this, is there too much confidence?
00:15Because, Dibs, I don't know about you.
00:17888-957-9570, by the way, our number.
00:19Feel free to hit us up.
00:21We'd love to talk Dubs basketball with you.
00:23When I listen to Coach Kerr tonight, I don't think he's braggadocious at all.
00:27Steve knows exactly how to handle, you know, a media situation and public commentary better than just about anybody I've ever talked to in my life.
00:36But you can sort of tell that we have quickly, in this series, arrived at a spot where the angst, the stress, the twisted-up nature of a playoff series, I'm sorry, it's just absent.
00:55It's just not here.
00:57You couldn't hear it from Moses Moody earlier.
01:00You couldn't hear it from Steve Kerr.
01:02And I'm not telling you it's a sweep.
01:05What I'm telling you is, and I feel like you've had some numbers that say this today.
01:10Grandy, you had some numbers that say this today.
01:14The bottom line is this for the Golden State Warriors.
01:17They know exactly what they have to do.
01:20If they don't do it, they might lose a game or two.
01:23But if they do it, like, the Rockets don't have an answer.
01:30All they've got to do is don't turn the ball over.
01:35Don't let the Rockets turn this into fast break points.
01:38If you don't do that, they're not beating you four times.
01:42And it sounds to me like the Warriors are very privately aware of that with every single conversation we all have.
01:50Right.
01:51They feel like they're the better team.
01:53And then they went out and they won game one in a game where they were up by 20-plus.
01:58And, you know, Steve even said that.
01:59I said, yeah, you know, I had it as, like, a B or B-minus.
02:02And he said, well, it was an A.
02:03It was.
02:04Halfway through the third quarter, it was an A.
02:06And then we got a little sloppy with the ball and we made some mistakes.
02:10And, you know, we allowed them to get back into it.
02:12And so that is kind of the way that happened.
02:15And he mentioned the turnovers.
02:17And in the six games this year where they had 20 or more turnovers, they were 0-6.
02:22And I know 20 is a lot.
02:23But two of those games were against the Houston Rockets where they had 20 or more turnovers and they lost the basketball game.
02:30So that's kind of why I was leading Steve to that answer when I said, what's the one thing?
02:35And he's right.
02:36It's turnovers.
02:37Jimmy's gotten them from being, like, 16 a game down to 14 a game, which is significant.
02:42And the offensive rebounds don't matter as much if you don't turn the ball over.
02:48And also what he said is, and you and I were talking about this before, like,
02:51a team that misses a lot of shots, there's going to be a lot of available rebounds.
02:55Totally.
02:55And they're taller, so they're going to get some.
02:57Right.
02:58They're going to get some.
02:59But it's like, okay.
03:01Okay.
03:03You know, like, you got to find a way to turn that into points.
03:06Listen, did y'all miss this on Steini and Goo today?
03:09And Evan was in for Goo.
03:10Moses Moody was on.
03:11Listen to this comment.
03:12I think we can score better than them in the half court.
03:16Definitely.
03:16They bring a lot of pressure.
03:17So as long as we can control the ball, limit turnovers.
03:20When it comes down to it, I think we're a better team.
03:22So the more that we can use that and not let them just play fast and get out of it,
03:28then I think it'll be better for us.
03:31Like, when it comes down to it, we're a better team.
03:36Right.
03:37Said the seven-seed role player after one game.
03:42Now, I'm not trying to turn that into bulletin board, because by the way,
03:46hashtag, he's right.
03:50He's right.
03:50But this is a very, I wonder if everyone catches this.
03:54This is a very rare occurrence in the NBA, that you're going to get a playoff series that
03:59feels this way.
04:00I'm not going to call it in the bag or over anything.
04:02But the feeling of this, particularly with a 7-2, which this just isn't, but even though
04:09that it is, but you're not going to get this kind of feeling, this kind of commentary after
04:15one basketball game.
04:17But you have it because the Warriors, I just think, they have a very simple assignment here.
04:22It doesn't mean that they'll complete their assignment every time they play, but they have
04:26a very simple assignment.
04:27And if they do it, they're going to score more points than the Rockets every time.
04:32That's how I feel.
04:34Well, and the simple assignment is don't turn it over a ton, and especially live ball turnovers
04:41where they can get out and they can run and get easy hoops.
04:43If you make it a half-court game and it comes into being a shooting contest, well, the Warriors
04:49will shoot better.
04:50And what Steve said about offensive rebounds is true.
04:54The Rockets missed 53 shots in that game.
04:57They missed 53 of their 87, and of the 53 available rebounds, the Warriors got 30, and they got
05:0422.
05:06And the other rebounds either kick out of bounds or whatever, it goes up and over the backboard,
05:10whatever happens.
05:11But you want to get a higher percentage of the available rebounds, but Steve's right.
05:16When you have a team that doesn't shoot it very well, there's going to be a lot of rebounds
05:19available, and they're very good at that.
05:21888-957-9570.
05:23Love to hear from you.
05:24Gloria in the city.
05:25Hi, Gloria.
05:26Thanks for calling.
05:28Hi, Dibbs and Willard.
05:29Thank you for taking my call.
05:31Yeah.
05:32I totally agree with Steve.
05:35Steve is a confident veteran coach.
05:38He knows his team.
05:41It was good to see our role players step up.
05:45And the moment wasn't too big.
05:48Moody played exceptional defense.
05:50And Prudzinski, he was just, he played as if he was not a, I know he's not a rookie, but
05:59he played like a veteran, actually.
06:02The moment didn't scare him.
06:04Um, I think the, uh, the Rockets defense is smothering.
06:08It's hard to watch at times because I'm so afraid that they're going to lose the ball.
06:14But the Warriors showed their composure as a championship team.
06:19And that's what they have to continue to do.
06:22They're not going to out-rebound this team.
06:25So, that's what the Rockets do well because of their youth and their athleticism.
06:30So, just continue to hit your shot.
06:32Play with poise.
06:34And let Steph do what Steph does.
06:37And Jimmy, I'm so happy he's on our team now.
06:41I'm confident that we're going to win this series and get some rest for who we face next.
06:47Thank you, gentlemen.
06:48Gloria, thank you.
06:49Thank you for calling.
06:50And I love the two words that she used.
06:52And they are, they have some overlap.
06:54And for many, in this case, kind of mean the same thing.
06:57She used the word composure.
06:58Yep.
06:59And she used the word poise.
07:00That's what Steve was saying on the sideline.
07:02That's it.
07:02Poise, poise, poise.
07:03Poise, yeah, exactly.
07:05That's all.
07:05That's it.
07:06And that's kind of like, you heard another thing Steve said in our conversation where he
07:11goes, I just think playoff experience is such a big deal.
07:15There are times in sports where the word experience gets overused or kind of like you hang your
07:20hat on it too much.
07:22You know, if it's a one-game situation or if it's baseball, which is kind of random with
07:27bloopers and Texas Lakers and things like that.
07:30But it's so excessive in this series.
07:32It's so excessive.
07:36The Warriors experience championship pedigree and know-how versus guys who are all playing
07:42in their first playoff game.
07:43I just thought it was wildly evident in that second quarter.
07:48And that's the kind of thing that's almost like speed.
07:51It just doesn't take a day off.
07:53Like you said it earlier, the Rockets just like they haven't been out of the state yet.
08:00They haven't been on a trip yet.
08:01Right.
08:01Like they haven't gone to college yet.
08:03They got to go see the world before you know exactly.
08:07I mean, Steve said they know who they are.
08:09I'd almost kind of argue, eh, not really.
08:13Not really.
08:14They are the prefrontal cortex of an 18-year-old.
08:18Not fully formed.
08:21No, but I do think that whatever happens this year for them will be a great experience.
08:26Yes.
08:27You and I were having the discussion earlier about young teams who go on a run.
08:32And I was thinking about the Oklahoma City Thunder in 2011 where they went to the Western Conference Finals
08:38with KD, James Hodden, and Russell Westbrook, all who were under the age of 23.
08:45And as I did a, not a deep dive, but a shallow little wade into the water.
08:50Let us know if Deep Dive Dibs is here again.
08:52He's not.
08:53Okay.
08:53All I'm going to point out is that that very team that went to the Western Finals the year before was a playoff team.
08:59They lost in the first round.
09:01You had a rookie, and then I think Westbrook and KD were in their second year, and Hodden was a rookie.
09:06You know, those three all had a collective two years of experience.
09:10They went, they played seven, they lost, and then it was the next year where they went to the Conference Finals.
09:17And a couple years later, they went to the actual NBA Finals.
09:20And do I have this right?
09:22Like, did Harden won it one year, right?
09:23All three of them have MVP awards.
09:26I believe that's right.
09:27All three of them have MVP awards.
09:30These guys are all going to the Hall of Fame.
09:32And I'm not going to compare Jabari Smith, Shen Goon, and Jalen Green.
09:36Yeah.
09:36Because these three are not these three.
09:38Exactly right.
09:40And, you know, look, I know everybody's got to go play a year, either of college or overseas or whatever you want to do.
09:48But I also look at, you know, Westbrook, Harden, and KD.
09:53And I know they didn't play a ton of it.
09:56I think KD just one year at Texas.
09:58But these were also all, they were all college basketball players.
10:02They were all players that played at big-time universities, that went on tournament runs, and all of that.
10:08So, like, their 22 might not be this 22.
10:13There's also a different skill set.
10:15You're looking at three players, and particularly Kevin Durant and James Harden, who are literally all-time ball handler, scorer-type players.
10:24Rockets don't have that guy.
10:25Right.
10:26They just don't.
10:27They don't have that guy.
10:27I don't even think a few more years of experience will do that.
10:31These Rockets, if you project them for another two to three years, really dangerous, but they still need another guy.
10:37They need an addition.
10:39They need a—
10:40You said yesterday, Cade Cunningham.
10:42Or Kevin Durant.
10:43Anthony Edwards.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Even John Morant.
10:45Somebody who can just flat-out get you a bucket.
10:47Totally.
10:48And I know he's not the great personality fit.
10:51Just before we go to the phones, the one thing—there's one common thread between that Oklahoma City Thunder team,
10:58the Baby Thunder and the Baby Rockets, you know what the common thread is?
11:02What's that?
11:03Jeff Green.
11:03Oh, yeah, that's right.
11:04He was on that team.
11:06Jeff Green.
11:07Was he allowed off the bench for that team?
11:09Oh, he played a bunch.
11:10Yeah, he did.
11:10He was second on the team in minutes.
11:12Was he?
11:12He was second?
11:13In 2011, he played, I think, 37 minutes a game.
11:17Damn.
11:17And that same Jeff Green is now on the Baby Rockets.
11:20Right.
11:21But not a baby.
11:23No.
11:23Which is why he's not allowed to play.
11:25Well, yeah.
11:25Let's go to Morgan in Morgan Hill.
11:27Hi, Morgan.
11:28Thank you for calling.
11:30Hey, guys.
11:30Thanks for taking my call.
11:31First off, I just wanted to say that you guys are wonderful interviewers.
11:38I love the way you guys tag-teamed with those questions.
11:42And not only that, sophisticated—Dibs, did I hear you say, how do you adjudicate the illegality?
11:50Yeah.
11:52I was just trying to flex on Steve with my state school education.
11:55By the way, you guys know what that is, right, Morgan?
11:59I think so.
12:00I think I do.
12:01It's an adjudication sensation.
12:03Touching!
12:07Okay, you got me there, buddy.
12:08All right.
12:09You know, that was interesting.
12:10I have two meaningless comments.
12:13We've got way more than that, but go ahead.
12:17One, that was interesting to learn that when they send in clips of, you know, what they think are fouls, that they actually have to share it with the other team, too.
12:26I didn't know that was the case, and that's interesting to know.
12:29So that's one.
12:29And then, two, Willard, when you asked him that question about that anonymous player poll about the underrated players, I was really hoping to hear a nice, flowery kind of response from Steve Kerr about how they're not underrated, but he didn't really give it to us.
12:47But here's my theory about that poll and that question is that people voting for them as underrated are the same players who don't box out and who ball watch on offense and defense.
13:01And there's more of them in the NBA than we realize, but that's my theory.
13:06That's who's voting for Jimmy and Draymond as underrated.
13:10Well, anyhow, thanks for taking my call.
13:11Yeah, Morgan, thank you for making it.
13:13You may be on to something, also, like what you said earlier to Coach, which is that it feels like there's some haterade there.
13:19I think when people look, and we forget this, these athletes, they're human beings, and when they look at people like Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler, who challenge people on the court all the time, Jimmy less so on the court, Jimmy's sort of more in the locker room and in the front office, they are controversial people.
13:39They're controversial people.
13:41And so I think that, like, you're prone, if you're an observer and you've never played with them before, you're prone to look at it from the outside and go, these guys are more trouble than they're worth.
13:54And that's kind of, for me, that's the definition of overrated.
13:57You're more trouble than you're worth.
13:59Like, your name value is big, and obviously you're good at basketball, but you're not that great.
14:05And Steve said what I think is true.
14:08We know.
14:10They don't know.
14:11We know.
14:12Draymond Green might be the ultimate we know inside the organization.
14:18What all of you outside of the organization don't know.
14:21We know what he provides.
14:24And you and I have had this conversation with so many people who have played on that team through the years.
14:30Other than Jordan Poole, everybody who talks to us, who's played alongside Draymond Green, says he's a wonderful, wonderful teammate.
14:41And a leader.
14:42And the guy you need.
14:43And big bro.
14:44And all of that stuff.
14:45And actually, even Jordan Poole said that prior to their problem.
14:48So, if that's the case, then clearly what's going on inside the building is a myth buster.
14:55Because outside the building, people are like, that guy's a pain in the rear.
14:58Not the people around him don't think so.
15:00Exactly.
15:01And I'm just looking at this poll.
15:03And Tyrese Halliburton was number one, followed by Rudy Gobert.
15:08And I kind of get that.
15:09Rudy Gobert.
15:10Rudy Gobert.
15:11He's the stifled tower.
15:12He's a great defensive player, but kind of a stiff on offense.
15:16Trey Young.
15:17Then you get to Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green is in a group tied with John Morant and Julius Randle.
15:23So, some of those players on the list.
15:25And you get to Dylan Brooks, your guy.
15:28And, you know, some of these players are brash talkers who it's easy for their peers to say, oh, that guy's overrated.
15:35He's not as good as he thinks he is.
15:37Yeah.
15:37Yeah.
15:38LeBron, 2.2%.
15:39Overrated.
15:40Overrated.
15:41Well, I mean, he's not better than Steph.
15:43Right.
15:44So, he's overrated because he's not the greatest player of all time?
15:48Okay.
15:48He's number two.
15:51Let's go to Skills in Vallejo.
15:54Hey, Skills.
15:54Thanks for calling.
15:55What are you doing?
15:58What I'm doing is my daughter's with me on spring break, and so I'm just trying to enjoy what little peace and quiet I can get in my house.
16:04Yeah, man.
16:05Amen to that.
16:06I love it, though.
16:09But here's the thing.
16:10I think what Moses Moody was trying to say earlier about the Warriors being a better basketball team, I could be wrong, but it's not the first time I've spoken to someone else on this show before.
16:19But what I think he was trying to say was the Warriors, when they fall behind or they're struggling, they just start doing things better.
16:27They start shooting better.
16:28They start making mistakes on the floor.
16:30They work better as a team.
16:31They clean things up, and they usually, you know, more often than not, it's worked, especially since they got Butler.
16:36What the Rockets like to do, on the other hand, is when they fall behind buried again, they will pull people's pants down.
16:42They will claw, spit, and dab, and insult relatives and things like that.
16:47And then when that doesn't work, they have clipses on the floor and starts picking fights with people.
16:52And that's not basketball.
16:53It's not the basketball I've ever experienced.
16:55So that's why I just want to say what my thoughts were on the Moody quote from earlier, and that the Warriors will be just fine in this series.
17:02Thank you, guys.
17:02Yes, Gills, thank you, and good luck on the peace and quiet.
17:07Yeah, he's right.
17:08I mean, go back to that word that Stiney was using on the crossover, like, who's more talented?
17:14Oh, the Rockets are more talented.
17:16And we do.
17:17For whatever reason in sports, the word talent seems to get equated to athleticism.
17:22Yeah.
17:23Right, who can jump, who can wow you, who got the ha-ha.
17:28That's how we decide what's talent.
17:30I think that's an absurd statement.
17:33The Rockets are more talented than the Warriors?
17:36Are you kidding me?
17:37They don't have anybody who can shoot.
17:39How the hell could they be more talented?
17:42They may be more athletic.
17:45Steph Curry?
17:46Steph Curry's not the most talented person you've ever seen in your life.
17:49He can walk into the upper deck of a basketball arena and make a shot.
17:54Like, that's a crazy statement.
17:57It's simply saying you're more athletic.
18:01And so that's not enough.
18:03And I like Skill's point, which is when a team needs to kind of dig deep and get something,
18:08the Warriors have a lot more different things they can do than the Rockets do.
18:12And I wonder, like, about the idea of talent and what it really means, because Kevon Looney
18:17has certain talents in the league that fit with what the Warriors try to do.
18:23So if Kevon Looney was on any of the other 29 teams, maybe he wouldn't be as talented.
18:29Maybe he wouldn't even be able to play in the association.
18:31And I hope that he'll find a home outside of Golden State if they let him go in the offseason.
18:37But his talent is such that it fits perfectly with what they're trying to do.
18:42So is GP2 suddenly more talented here than he was elsewhere?
18:47Or do the Warriors just know how to use him?
18:48Yeah, he's a great fit.
18:49He's a great fit.
18:50Eric in Vallejo.
18:52Hey, Eric, real quick.
18:52What's going on?
18:55I want to give my two cents about J-Mom being overrated.
18:58I tell everyone all the time that Steph is obviously our best player,
19:03but Draymond has been the MVP of our team the last 10 years, right?
19:08I mean, if you look at him when he's off, when he's in love with the Warriors,
19:10when he's off the floor, the offense is clunky.
19:13We give a bunch of points.
19:14So he's a quarterback for offense and defense.
19:16The other thing you said about Warriors fans, no, he's not overrated.
19:21I kind of disagree with that.
19:22There's a lot of Warriors fans that don't like him and think he's overrated
19:25and that wanted to actually trade him the last couple of years.
19:27So I don't know why it is, but I think people just look at the numbers.
19:31They don't think they have big numbers, but it has a huge impact,
19:34just like your favorite dollar.
19:35What are your thoughts on that?
19:36Yeah, Eric, thanks for calling.
19:38I'm with you.
19:39I think any Warrior fan, look, you can be annoyed by Draymond Green,
19:44but you cannot dismiss Draymond Green.
19:46If you're a Warrior fan and you think that Draymond has not been an absolutely
19:51vital part of everything that's happened, quite frankly, you're crazy.
19:57You are crazy.
19:59And I question your fandom.
20:01You've let your emotion overwhelm your fandom.
20:04And all you need to do, don't listen to me.
20:07Who the hell am I?
20:08Just a voice in the room.
20:10You want to know why you're wrong if you diminish the importance of Draymond Green?
20:14Because Steph Curry disagrees with you.
20:16And Steve Kerr disagrees with you.
20:19Kavon Looney disagrees with you.
20:20Well, the banners disagree with you.
20:22Exactly.
20:22And Joe Lacob and three parades in Oakland and one down Market Street disagree with you.
20:27So you can put them on your overrated list all you want.
20:31The man's got four titles.
20:33And they don't have any of them without him, I firmly believe.