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00:00Elliot, if we look beyond the trade war onto global dominance in general, do you agree with what Dr Gao is saying, that China's rise is inevitable and it's unstoppable?
00:17First, thank you for having me. China's rise is inevitable. China's belligerency, and you just heard some of that belligerency, I would have thought is not inevitable.
00:28Maybe it is under Xi Jinping, but the problem that the United States has with China is not its rise, it is China's conduct.
00:40First of all, China, from the day it joined the World Trade Organization, has never believed in free trade, and it has not practiced free trade.
00:48It has taken advantage of the WTO to build up its own economy at the expense of other economies, and it has used its power to threaten neighbors.
01:03For example, the Philippines, that's just one very good example.
01:06Or Vietnam, there's another example. Or Taiwan, there's another example.
01:11The problem is not China's rise, which I agree is inevitable, and which ought to favor the people of China and really the people of the whole world.
01:22But it isn't doing so because of the way China is actually conducting itself.