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00:00:00Assalamualaikum, Borak Solabiti Kembali, my name is Dina Nazir and also with me, Faliq.
00:00:20I like it, Faliq. Why?
00:00:22I like it when our producer put a handsome guest.
00:00:27He's handsome and single.
00:00:29What?
00:00:30There's still a chance, right?
00:00:32I can't.
00:00:33As long as you're single, you can.
00:00:35Oh, okay.
00:00:36I'm really okay with that.
00:00:39But the problem is, Dina has known him for over 21 years.
00:00:42Okay.
00:00:43We've known each other for 20 years.
00:00:45I'm still a teenager.
00:00:47So, he's a bit difficult.
00:00:49That means he's never tried you.
00:00:52I'm sorry.
00:00:54You're not taking care of my market, Faliq.
00:00:57Oh, you mean he's tried you but you didn't know.
00:01:00No.
00:01:01No?
00:01:02No.
00:01:03I'm sincere.
00:01:04I've never tried you.
00:01:05You're not my type.
00:01:08Okay, this week we have...
00:01:10He's tried a lot of things.
00:01:12He's a musician.
00:01:13We know he's a musician.
00:01:14We know he's an actor.
00:01:15That's right.
00:01:16But apparently, there's a lot of work behind his back.
00:01:19Today, we're going to get rid of him.
00:01:21He's a younger brother of a famous drummer.
00:01:24He's a famous band in Malaysia.
00:01:29Let's just ask him.
00:01:31We have Mr. Razali, everybody.
00:01:34Hi.
00:01:35Peace be upon you.
00:01:36Peace be upon you, too.
00:01:37I want to clarify something.
00:01:38It's not that he's never tried you.
00:01:40Our success brings us to a different path.
00:01:42Do you see that?
00:01:43I understand.
00:01:44So, after 21 years, we meet again, Dina.
00:01:47So, you don't regret it?
00:01:50No, we don't regret it.
00:01:52That's how we live our lives.
00:01:54We continue to live our lives.
00:01:56Whatever we do, we do it.
00:01:57We just follow our path.
00:01:58Whatever we do, we do it.
00:01:59Whatever we don't do, we don't do it.
00:02:01Whatever we don't do, we don't do it.
00:02:04I'm not going to continue with that question.
00:02:08Okay, we're clear on that.
00:02:10We're clear.
00:02:11We're clear until we dig deeper.
00:02:14It's nothing.
00:02:16It's nothing.
00:02:17It's nothing.
00:02:18It's nothing.
00:02:19It's nothing.
00:02:20It's nothing.
00:02:21If you look at your career, it's not that different.
00:02:26You can do it.
00:02:27You said my career, but you're talking about work.
00:02:32That's too much.
00:02:33It's okay.
00:02:34We'll just push our privilege.
00:02:36We'll just start our celebrity talk.
00:02:39We'll start with the beginning.
00:02:41In this celebrity talk, we're going to talk about...
00:02:44...the journey of a legend.
00:02:47A legend.
00:02:49Not everyone is on top.
00:02:53There are those who struggle.
00:02:55There are those who are old.
00:02:58So, we're going to start with you, Mr. Razali.
00:03:03You started with music, right?
00:03:04That's right.
00:03:05As a drummer.
00:03:06Yes, as a drummer.
00:03:08Can you find my specs?
00:03:10No, I can't.
00:03:11I don't have tissues.
00:03:15I started with music.
00:03:17Did that influence you?
00:03:19Yes.
00:03:20He's like this.
00:03:22He looks like an uncle.
00:03:24He's like this.
00:03:25He's looking at his specs.
00:03:26He's not dancing.
00:03:28If he was dancing, he'd be like this.
00:03:30He's like this.
00:03:31When I was young, my father put me in a piano class...
00:03:35...without my permission.
00:03:39I understand.
00:03:40He didn't want you to do it.
00:03:41He forced you to do it.
00:03:43My father loved classical music.
00:03:45He listened to Schubert, Mozart, Tchaikovsky...
00:03:47...Swan Lake and...
00:03:50Beethoven.
00:03:51Yes, Beethoven.
00:03:53When I was young, I think he wanted his kids to play music.
00:03:58So, all of them didn't play music.
00:04:00They didn't study.
00:04:01Even though the first one played drums.
00:04:03But, he didn't study.
00:04:04He was in a piano class.
00:04:05So, he said, I'll put him in a piano class.
00:04:09So, we went to the piano class and studied.
00:04:11But, he played music that we didn't want.
00:04:14He played staccato, indie minor...
00:04:17...chopsticks and all that.
00:04:19So, we only went to third or fourth grade.
00:04:22Then, we stopped.
00:04:23We started going to school.
00:04:25When we got older, we started playing football.
00:04:27We got to know Metallica's bands.
00:04:30Anthrax.
00:04:31Megadeth.
00:04:33The history of Megadeth.
00:04:34Who died?
00:04:35Metallica.
00:04:37We were in a different world.
00:04:39Our brains started to develop.
00:04:42When it developed, my brother started Black Rose.
00:04:46So, he automatically...
00:04:49...bloomed there.
00:04:51He was influenced.
00:04:53But, he listened to a lot of American music.
00:04:55But, I prefer pop from the 80s.
00:04:58Like Michael Jackson, The Kajagoogoo, The New Order...
00:05:03...Paul Young, and The Aha.
00:05:07I like that.
00:05:08That's real pop.
00:05:09The 80s electro pop.
00:05:11With the straight hair and new waves.
00:05:13So, he had a good mix of that.
00:05:15And American rock music.
00:05:17Poison, Guns N' Roses, and Skate Low.
00:05:22So, he got both.
00:05:24So, when your brother joined Black Rose...
00:05:28...did he encourage you to join the industry?
00:05:32He was young, but we didn't know each other before that.
00:05:35You were far from your brother, right?
00:05:37Yes.
00:05:38He was the first and I was the last.
00:05:39So, it was 8 years apart.
00:05:41He was in Form 1 and Form 3.
00:05:43He went to school and hung out.
00:05:45We were just starting out.
00:05:49We didn't do any social activities together.
00:05:52We went to different places.
00:05:53I didn't even go out.
00:05:55But, when he played music, it was like seeing something new.
00:05:58We saw him at a show.
00:06:01He had a lot of stylish shoes.
00:06:04Why did he have so many shoes?
00:06:06He said, he had a lot of boots with metal parts.
00:06:10Stylish, right?
00:06:11Why did he have a lot of shoes?
00:06:12Why didn't we buy a lot of shoes?
00:06:16Why did we only have one or two?
00:06:18Your brother started to compete.
00:06:20He started to compare.
00:06:22Why did you have metal shoes?
00:06:24Because he had a lot of shoes.
00:06:27He said, if we bought a lot of shoes, we could wear them again next year.
00:06:31Why did he have a lot of shoes?
00:06:33Because he had a lot of ads.
00:06:36So, we saw a new world.
00:06:38He was like...
00:06:41He was like a new understanding.
00:06:43He said, the talent of playing music...
00:06:45...can make you successful.
00:06:47It can make you work.
00:06:49After SPM, there's another way.
00:06:51There's another path.
00:06:53So, he had both good and bad.
00:06:56After that, he started to play.
00:06:58He started to practise.
00:07:00He started to practise playing drums...
00:07:02...until he made his own band.
00:07:04In Form 3, he met Raditya at the Traction Centre.
00:07:08That was early.
00:07:09Before that, there was a band that played hardcore.
00:07:17If you met Raditya when you were in Form 3, when you were 15...
00:07:20...how old were the hardcore bands?
00:07:22Form 2.
00:07:23Form 1 already had a band.
00:07:26Form 1 already had a band.
00:07:28We didn't play like that.
00:07:30We went into the jamming studio...
00:07:32...and the cymbals were broken.
00:07:34The drums were bent.
00:07:35We were like, who's jamming here?
00:07:39It was like a reboot.
00:07:42So, we added to the reboot.
00:07:46He added to the reboot.
00:07:48He didn't want to stop or control himself.
00:07:52He added to the reboot.
00:07:54Yes.
00:07:55This is where they let their emotions out.
00:07:57It was a place where people started to learn.
00:07:59That's right.
00:08:01He didn't want to play, but the owner felt sorry for him.
00:08:05He had to change his skin and snare every month.
00:08:08He felt sorry for him.
00:08:10How did you change from classical piano to drums?
00:08:14He stopped playing football.
00:08:16He stopped playing football in the middle.
00:08:18He played a lot of football in Form 1 and Form 2.
00:08:25He played football too?
00:08:26Yes.
00:08:27Then, he started playing music.
00:08:31I was shocked.
00:08:32I didn't want to play football.
00:08:34I wanted to play music.
00:08:35So, I switched back to drums.
00:08:38He played until he finished Form 5.
00:08:41Did you continue to meet Radhi?
00:08:44Yes.
00:08:45How did you meet him?
00:08:46Did he hold a concert or just hang out?
00:08:48We were at the tuition centre.
00:08:50I was in Form 3.
00:08:51Tom studied tuition maths.
00:08:54I want to tell you about him.
00:08:56But, I'm afraid I can't.
00:08:58His eyes are sharp.
00:09:01When he talks to us, he looks that way.
00:09:04I understand.
00:09:05You answer.
00:09:06He was like that.
00:09:07When Radhi came in,...
00:09:10...he was here.
00:09:12But, when he said that, he looked at Radhi.
00:09:14He said, we have a new student.
00:09:16But, there was no one here.
00:09:18This is a wall.
00:09:19Radhi will come in from the opposite direction.
00:09:21I understand.
00:09:22When Radhi came in, there was no one here.
00:09:24When Radhi came in,...
00:09:26...he had long hair and his jeans were loose.
00:09:28I thought, where did he go to school?
00:09:31We went to a normal school.
00:09:33A short-haired school.
00:09:34He had long hair and his jeans were loose.
00:09:36He had long hair and his jeans were loose.
00:09:38I thought, where did he go to school?
00:09:41It turned out that he went to a private school.
00:09:43Salah, Kasturi.
00:09:48That's where we met.
00:09:49But, we didn't form a band right away.
00:09:51We met after Ikhlas's concert.
00:09:53Then, we saw Zainal Bidin's concert...
00:09:56...at Silam Majid.
00:09:58Then, Aziz Production.
00:09:59Yes, Aflin was there.
00:10:01It was one step bigger than Black Rose.
00:10:04Black Rose is all over the world.
00:10:05It was like a stadium.
00:10:07It was jam-packed.
00:10:09We were going to jam tomorrow.
00:10:11Radhi passed by and asked, are you guys going to jam too?
00:10:14I was with two of the original members,...
00:10:16...Lam and Ivan, the Chinese guys.
00:10:19One was playing bass and the other was playing guitar.
00:10:21Radhi said, let's do it tomorrow.
00:10:22He came the next day.
00:10:26Radhi brought some melodic music.
00:10:29He opened a new chapter.
00:10:32Tone Roses, The Smashing Pumpkins,...
00:10:36...and we were there.
00:10:37We made our own songs.
00:10:38We became O.A.G.
00:10:40You made your own songs.
00:10:41O.A.G. was formed when you were 15 or 16 years old.
00:10:45Yes, that's right.
00:10:47That's a long time ago.
00:10:49That's a long time ago.
00:10:51I was still a kid when I was 15 or 16 years old.
00:10:53I didn't think about the future.
00:10:56But, we used to do that too.
00:10:59We used to play around.
00:11:02We did that too.
00:11:06But, there was an outlet.
00:11:07But, when he got to know the music, he went there.
00:11:12We saved up the money to buy purple Converse shoes.
00:11:14I still remember.
00:11:16It was around RM69 or RM79.
00:11:18It was expensive.
00:11:19We had to save up the money.
00:11:21We had to jam with four people.
00:11:24It was around RM35 or RM40 per hour.
00:11:27It was around that time.
00:11:28It was around RM80 or RM90 per hour.
00:11:30We had to save up the money.
00:11:32So, we shared it.
00:11:35It was a real fashion at that time.
00:11:37Who chose the name O.A.G.?
00:11:43Before O.A.G., our name was Ganas.
00:11:47The problem was, he was already laughing.
00:11:49Did you have to know that?
00:11:50Yes.
00:11:51Demogorgon.
00:11:52Megadeth.
00:11:54Slimeballs.
00:11:55That's hard.
00:11:57We were into punk and skate at that time.
00:12:01So, there was this symbol.
00:12:04It was a bit fierce.
00:12:05It looked like a ball.
00:12:06But, it had blood on it.
00:12:07So, we thought, why don't we...
00:12:08...describe the image that we saw.
00:12:11What was the image?
00:12:12Slimeballs.
00:12:13That was it.
00:12:14That was our group's name.
00:12:16We were still young.
00:12:18Now, we're still young.
00:12:21I agree.
00:12:22When he met Hadi, he said that he was dreaming.
00:12:24When he entered the cave, he found O.A.G.
00:12:27What is O.A.G.?
00:12:28Old Automatic Garbage.
00:12:29So, we named it after him.
00:12:31Old Automatic Garbage.
00:12:33That's a long name.
00:12:34Old Automatic Garbage.
00:12:36In the cave.
00:12:39What does that mean?
00:12:40In the beginning, we rationalised that...
00:12:46...something old would automatically become garbage.
00:12:49But, it wasn't necessary.
00:12:50Now that we're older, we know that...
00:12:52...it's more expensive.
00:12:54Yes, it's more vintage.
00:12:55It's more valuable.
00:12:57It's more legendary.
00:12:59It's more classic.
00:13:01When it's mature.
00:13:02That's right.
00:13:03We didn't think about it in the past.
00:13:04So, it's O.A.G.
00:13:05It's O.A.G.
00:13:06If you ask me, it's O.A.G.
00:13:08But, I want to ask you something.
00:13:09You're the drummer of Black Rose.
00:13:11It's a big band in Malaysia.
00:13:13It was a while ago.
00:13:14It still is.
00:13:15Have you ever been invited to watch a show...
00:13:17...or play drums?
00:13:19No, but I've been in a band with you.
00:13:21How was it?
00:13:22There were two drummers.
00:13:23Yes, he played the drums.
00:13:24I can play the guitar and write songs.
00:13:27When it came to that, we played the drums.
00:13:32We wrote songs.
00:13:34At that time, we were like...
00:13:37...Abang Fitman.
00:13:40Timing.
00:13:42How was the timing?
00:13:44When was it going to happen?
00:13:46We were in front of the frontman.
00:13:49I couldn't feel the timing.
00:13:51I had to watch out for the timing.
00:13:54You couldn't do that at home.
00:13:56It was too far.
00:13:57When it was over, we went home.
00:13:59I played the guitar.
00:14:02Yes, Abang.
00:14:04That's how it was.
00:14:07When was the band formed?
00:14:09It was a long time ago.
00:14:10It was when I was in college.
00:14:11There's a video on YouTube.
00:14:14There's a song called Sunyi.
00:14:15The bassist is Mario Black Rose.
00:14:19We had a band at that time.
00:14:22You liked it?
00:14:23Yes.
00:14:26We had time to record a song.
00:14:28There's a video on YouTube.
00:14:30We looked for it.
00:14:33The title is...
00:14:34He's regretting it.
00:14:36He's embarrassed.
00:14:40We looked for Emosi by Lapan.
00:14:43Band number 8.
00:14:45Why 8?
00:14:47It's a band...
00:14:50...with a big head.
00:14:52They wanted to do their own thing.
00:14:54The date was August 8th.
00:14:57My name is Kusyairi.
00:14:59It's Lapan Huro.
00:15:00There's something close to the number 8.
00:15:04Sometimes, I found a piece of paper on the street.
00:15:08What's the number 8?
00:15:09I saw the number 08.
00:15:13It's a sign.
00:15:14The world is talking about the number 08.
00:15:18I was born in the country of 07, Penang.
00:15:22Where's 08?
00:15:2408...
00:15:26I don't remember.
00:15:28I don't remember.
00:15:30Leave a comment below.
00:15:32Maybe you should ask...
00:15:34...why didn't you take me to 08?
00:15:36Why didn't you go to 08 when you were pregnant?
00:15:39Just for the sake of it.
00:15:4208, 08.
00:15:4408.
00:15:46You don't care because it's out of control.
00:15:48It's out of control.
00:15:50If they work at JPN, they might get mad at him.
00:15:55Why?
00:15:57I want that number.
00:15:58You want 08.
00:16:00Let's talk about music.
00:16:02I'm not a big fan of music.
00:16:04You have a lot of input from other artists.
00:16:09Music is your passion, right?
00:16:11I want to talk about O.A.G.
00:16:14People might not know how a 16-17-year-old...
00:16:18...suddenly got into CCTV.
00:16:20That's right.
00:16:21That's not much from the drama side.
00:16:26Radhi's point of view is that he's a frontman...
00:16:28...and he makes music.
00:16:30His experience is a bit different.
00:16:32It's more from the POV side.
00:16:35He's the man in the back.
00:16:39If he's the frontman, he's the man in the back.
00:16:41We take care of everything.
00:16:43We didn't expect much from his experience.
00:16:46We just wanted to make music.
00:16:48We've never sat down and imagined...
00:16:52...what it'd be like to be a famous artist.
00:16:55It's not about fame.
00:16:57It's about what it'd be like to perform live...
00:16:59...in front of a crowd.
00:17:01We don't talk about fame.
00:17:03We just want people to come and watch.
00:17:05We just want people to like our music.
00:17:07That's why we didn't expect much from the fame.
00:17:10That's what we can improve on.
00:17:12That's what we're lacking.
00:17:14That's what our friends are lacking.
00:17:19We've been able to get through it.
00:17:24When the fame came, were you ready?
00:17:27No.
00:17:29We didn't expect it.
00:17:31We didn't expect it because...
00:17:33...we needed parental guidance to sign the contract.
00:17:37We needed two more signatures.
00:17:39We were still under 18.
00:17:41When we got the contract, it was just us guitarists.
00:17:46He saw us, so he bought a car.
00:17:49He had an apartment, so he had things to keep.
00:17:52The rest was just like that.
00:17:57We weren't good at management.
00:18:00We were young.
00:18:02We didn't have much.
00:18:04There were a lot of shows.
00:18:07We got a lot of money.
00:18:09We got RM500.
00:18:11It was fun.
00:18:13We played in big shows like Coca-Cola.
00:18:16We toured Malaysia.
00:18:20I thought about it.
00:18:22That's what we've been through.
00:18:24That's true.
00:18:26When OEG started, it became a phenomenon.
00:18:30There weren't many bands that sounded like that.
00:18:33Only kids.
00:18:37Even though they were kids, they were actually rebels.
00:18:42They played the right music.
00:18:44They didn't just want to have fun.
00:18:46They practised and brought the right stuff.
00:18:50They presented it.
00:18:52They said, let's play a song.
00:18:55Music can back up our rebellion.
00:19:00No matter what, at least we have our music.
00:19:06OEG was one of the OGs...
00:19:08...that started with Positive Tone.
00:19:13Positive Tone was responsible for bringing in...
00:19:17...Rafaej, VD, Tufek.
00:19:21So, you guys were the pioneers of the label.
00:19:24The label was the same as the other bands...
00:19:28...but it was just a label.
00:19:30They didn't play music because they saw new talent.
00:19:33They believed in new talent.
00:19:35They didn't want people to play other songs.
00:19:37They were brave enough to invest.
00:19:39What if Innuendo made an R&B album?
00:19:43What if Tufek made a rap album?
00:19:45They already had the core for you to see.
00:19:48It was a new approach.
00:19:51It was a new opportunity.
00:19:53The other bands would have their own styles.
00:19:57That was the wave in the 90s.
00:20:00Alternative, hip-hop, R&B.
00:20:04The Poetic Amour, The Yogi & Alan.
00:20:08They were all legends.
00:20:10The Poetic Amour.
00:20:13That was a small part that followed.
00:20:18You were in the O.A.G. when you were young...
00:20:21...and you were in Agrapan.
00:20:23You've seen a lot of things.
00:20:26Have you ever left O.A.G.?
00:20:28Yes, two or three times.
00:20:30What was the reason?
00:20:34Were you busy or were you acting?
00:20:37You were acting.
00:20:39He had a long nose.
00:20:41He was like this.
00:20:43We didn't hide anything.
00:20:49We didn't reveal everything.
00:20:53At first, we practiced four times a week.
00:21:00We made songs.
00:21:02Three or four years later, when we recorded the second album...
00:21:07...we were different.
00:21:09Who recorded it?
00:21:11Vocals?
00:21:13No drums?
00:21:15Next week?
00:21:17We were different.
00:21:20When was the jamming?
00:21:23Okay.
00:21:25We were all...
00:21:29...lying.
00:21:31We didn't want it to affect us negatively.
00:21:34We were all over the place.
00:21:37It's true.
00:21:40That's what made the band stronger.
00:21:45But in 1999...
00:21:48...everyone was busy entering the Millennium.
00:21:51At that time...
00:21:53...I left the band.
00:21:56Something big happened...
00:21:58...and I left the band...
00:22:01...for 18 months.
00:22:03That's a long time.
00:22:06You have to look for the meaning behind all this.
00:22:09How can I find it?
00:22:12You didn't have internet back then.
00:22:14That's why I want to know where the treasure hunt is.
00:22:18It was in 1999.
00:22:2018 months.
00:22:22Millennium wasn't there yet.
00:22:24Y2K wasn't there yet.
00:22:26If you wanted a cloud...
00:22:28...you had to reset it in 1999.
00:22:30If you wanted to use the internet...
00:22:34...you had to reset it.
00:22:36It's okay.
00:22:38You can ask me.
00:22:41I'll give you the answer.
00:22:42It's simple.
00:22:44But after 18 months...
00:22:46...you came back with O.E.G.
00:22:48I didn't join O.E.G. yet.
00:22:51You were gone for 18 months.
00:22:54I was gone.
00:22:56According to the news...
00:22:59...I continued my studies.
00:23:02It's not wrong.
00:23:04It's true.
00:23:05I continued my studies.
00:23:08When I came back...
00:23:10...it was back to zero.
00:23:13I had O.E.G. and long hair.
00:23:15I had a lot of hair loss.
00:23:17I had a lot of recordings.
00:23:20When I came back...
00:23:22...my hair was short.
00:23:25I went out to look for a job.
00:23:28I didn't study.
00:23:29I didn't join SPM.
00:23:31I didn't go to college.
00:23:32I was a rock star.
00:23:34You want to remember, right?
00:23:36I looked at the news.
00:23:38There were a lot of things.
00:23:40I looked for a job.
00:23:43I went one by one.
00:23:45Did you go for an interview?
00:23:46Yes.
00:23:47I don't know.
00:23:49I just remembered.
00:23:51I looked for a job.
00:23:54There were a lot of tables.
00:23:56There were a lot of charts.
00:23:58I looked for a job.
00:24:00I didn't know what to do.
00:24:02I couldn't do it.
00:24:03So, I cancelled it.
00:24:05There was one company.
00:24:07It wasn't MLM.
00:24:09They said they could sell...
00:24:11...but they weren't salesmen.
00:24:14They were selling alarms and ADTs.
00:24:17I asked if they were selling things.
00:24:18They said, no.
00:24:21They were selling contracts.
00:24:23We wanted signatures.
00:24:24We didn't want people's money.
00:24:26It was weird.
00:24:29We didn't want to sell things.
00:24:31We wanted to sell contracts.
00:24:34It was a different game.
00:24:36It was a different approach.
00:24:38How did you accept it?
00:24:41I brought the contract out.
00:24:43I wanted to sell the alarm.
00:24:44I thought about how to sell it.
00:24:48I looked for a new area.
00:24:52I went there.
00:24:53I was scolded for using the word PKM.
00:24:55I couldn't do it anymore.
00:24:57I couldn't do it for two days.
00:25:00I had to direct the sound.
00:25:02I couldn't do it anymore.
00:25:03It was only for a short while.
00:25:04It was only for three or four days.
00:25:07I brought a plastic see-through...
00:25:10...with a tie and a pillow at the back.
00:25:13I brought it to certain places.
00:25:19But, we didn't want to open it.
00:25:21It was okay.
00:25:23It was a style.
00:25:26It was a hot studio.
00:25:28It was a different office.
00:25:30We wanted to sell it.
00:25:32But, we knew that we had to keep our promise.
00:25:37We didn't want to throw it away.
00:25:39One day, a friend asked me...
00:25:41...if I wanted to work at AirAsia call centre.
00:25:44That was my last job at AirAsia call centre.
00:25:46I said, welcome. Where do you want to go?
00:25:48There were seven of us.
00:25:50We wanted to go to Sabah.
00:25:52That's a big commission.
00:25:55The furthest flight from Sabah was 300 people.
00:25:57The nearest one was 6 or 7 people.
00:26:00It was a small commission.
00:26:02I took that life in a year or two.
00:26:04Then, I went to college.
00:26:06You went to college?
00:26:08Yes, I did.
00:26:10My father told me that I had to take it.
00:26:16You heard it, right?
00:26:18I took advertising.
00:26:20Mascom and Communication.
00:26:25I joined Idol.
00:26:27We were in the back.
00:26:29We started with Quickie.
00:26:32Adam and Marion.
00:26:34Marion Counter.
00:26:36I asked where they were.
00:26:38They said, they were at KLCC.
00:26:40There was Nihal.
00:26:42He was a young hero.
00:26:44We watched him from afar.
00:26:47That's right.
00:26:49Where are the heroes of that time?
00:26:51You don't know, right?
00:26:53There are some.
00:26:55I just want to know.
00:26:57Tony Yusuf, right?
00:26:59Was he a hero?
00:27:01No, but he started in 2004.
00:27:04But he wasn't a young hero.
00:27:08That's right.
00:27:10He was our brother.
00:27:13Sorry, Tony.
00:27:15I don't know your name.
00:27:17Sorry.
00:27:21The hosts were Marion Counter, Adam See, Rina, Omar.
00:27:25Jehan Miskin.
00:27:27I think he was the hero.
00:27:29That's right, Jehan Miskin was the hero.
00:27:31I think so.
00:27:33Jehan Miskin was the hero.
00:27:35That's how Malay heroes were born.
00:27:37That's right.
00:27:39Until today.
00:27:41So, that's how you got involved in TV?
00:27:45Yes.
00:27:47It was after college.
00:27:49So, you were invited to be a host.
00:27:53They asked me to audition.
00:27:55I said, do you want to try?
00:27:57Oh my goodness.
00:27:59I haven't heard your name for a long time.
00:28:03I've never been a host before.
00:28:06So, they showed me some programs.
00:28:08We did some research.
00:28:10One of them was Ian Wright.
00:28:13We found out that he was a host.
00:28:17We understood him.
00:28:19So, we auditioned him.
00:28:21That's how he started hosting.
00:28:23We needed someone to look up to...
00:28:26...if we wanted to enter a new field.
00:28:28Someone had done it before.
00:28:30So, we knew his path.
00:28:32It wasn't to copy, but to learn.
00:28:34To learn.
00:28:35It was a reference.
00:28:37That's right.
00:28:38Mr. Razali is synonymous with travelogues.
00:28:41That's right.
00:28:43You can go sightseeing and have fun.
00:28:45You get paid to go sightseeing.
00:28:47You've been doing travelogues for a long time, right?
00:28:49One after another.
00:28:51Yes.
00:28:52We even had our own show on RTM.
00:28:54Kembarachi.
00:28:55The Streets.
00:28:56Destinasi Bajet.
00:28:57Field Trip USA.
00:28:58That's right.
00:28:59That's right.
00:29:00It was great.
00:29:01We were lucky.
00:29:02Alhamdulillah.
00:29:03Alhamdulillah.
00:29:04How was Destinasi Bajet?
00:29:07Where was it?
00:29:08Was it in Malaysia or Terengganu?
00:29:10In Malaysia.
00:29:11There were a lot of people...
00:29:14...from other countries.
00:29:20What was your favourite part?
00:29:22I think Terengganu had a good mix.
00:29:24Yes.
00:29:25You can get the culture, the food.
00:29:28If you wanted to run, you could go to the islands.
00:29:30There were a lot of places.
00:29:31I think Terengganu was great.
00:29:33The food was delicious.
00:29:34That's right.
00:29:35It was very in the middle.
00:29:37It was very chill.
00:29:38It was open to both non-Muslims and non-Muslims.
00:29:42It wasn't awkward.
00:29:46At the same time, the Muslims were happy.
00:29:50I think Terengganu had a good mix.
00:29:52Yes.
00:29:53Without touching anything politically.
00:29:55We talked about travel.
00:29:57Yes.
00:29:58We went to places.
00:30:00We enjoyed Terengganu.
00:30:02When we went to the islands, it was a different world.
00:30:05That's right.
00:30:06Suddenly, I was hungry.
00:30:07I wanted to eat kopok lekor.
00:30:08It was delicious.
00:30:09It was delicious.
00:30:10It was delicious.
00:30:11It was delicious, okay?
00:30:12It was delicious.
00:30:13It was amazing there.
00:30:14The breakfast there was amazing.
00:30:18You could go to places and see people making boats.
00:30:20They were still using their hands.
00:30:22Their crafts were still strong.
00:30:23Wow.
00:30:24That's right.
00:30:25That's right.
00:30:26Terengganu is sometimes underrated.
00:30:29I agree.
00:30:30I want to go now.
00:30:31Are you okay?
00:30:32I want to eat kopok lekor now.
00:30:34It's okay if we don't go to Terengganu.
00:30:35Terengganu has sent its people here.
00:30:37Zizan.
00:30:42Zizan.
00:30:43She gave a punchline.
00:30:46Okay.
00:30:47Acting.
00:30:48The world of hosting.
00:30:49We know that you did a lot of travelogues.
00:30:51Hosting and so on.
00:30:52Acting.
00:30:53How did you do it?
00:30:54You can go there.
00:30:55I take time.
00:30:56Actually.
00:30:58From music.
00:30:59Let me make music.
00:31:00I don't do anything else.
00:31:01I just focus on music.
00:31:03I don't do music when I'm hosting.
00:31:05I just focus on hosting.
00:31:07I want to fully understand.
00:31:08So that I can do it.
00:31:10Deliver.
00:31:11When it comes to acting.
00:31:12There were people who offered to do it.
00:31:17But, they didn't do it right away.
00:31:19There were a lot of people who didn't want to do it.
00:31:24Especially, when I was looking for food.
00:31:27They opened the door.
00:31:28They opened the door for everyone to see.
00:31:32It was a big program.
00:31:33TV8 and TV9.
00:31:35There were not a lot of people who knew about it.
00:31:38But, when I was looking for food.
00:31:41That was a new exposure.
00:31:43A different spectrum.
00:31:44A different spectrum.
00:31:45A big platform.
00:31:46In the past, people would see me.
00:31:48I was looking for food.
00:31:49Simple.
00:31:51Now, there are older people.
00:31:56They're like, don't you want to eat?
00:31:59So, it's different.
00:32:03There were offers to act.
00:32:07But, I think in the past, we had a...
00:32:12I don't want to say branding.
00:32:15We had a belief that our art had a path.
00:32:19We couldn't take everything.
00:32:22If we wanted to be a painter, we could.
00:32:25But, not all artists can be painters.
00:32:27We could make music.
00:32:28We could play drums.
00:32:29We could play jazz.
00:32:30We could play blues.
00:32:32There was a path.
00:32:33There was a time.
00:32:34After we got the film, or the drama.
00:32:39I think it was before that.
00:32:42But, when we got Blogger Boy.
00:32:44It was a TV8 drama.
00:32:46It was new.
00:32:48We could try new things.
00:32:49The concept was different.
00:32:50There was a mix of comics and blogging.
00:32:54So, we tried that.
00:32:56That was the first drama.
00:32:58The first drama.
00:32:59The first drama to be in the world.
00:33:02We were lucky to get a director...
00:33:04...who made it a must...
00:33:09...for the class before the shoot.
00:33:11Nice.
00:33:12Good.
00:33:13We were in the acting class.
00:33:14You were ready.
00:33:15Ready.
00:33:16Space.
00:33:17Who was your teacher?
00:33:19Bernard Chow Lee.
00:33:21Bernard Chow Lee.
00:33:22We were lucky to get a good teacher.
00:33:25Legend.
00:33:26So, you weren't too nervous.
00:33:29We were nervous.
00:33:30But, we knew what to do.
00:33:31We understood.
00:33:32Sometimes, we thought it was just acting.
00:33:33But, no.
00:33:34We had to know where the camera was.
00:33:35Where the other actors were.
00:33:36What we wanted to say.
00:33:37We wanted to make it look real.
00:33:38We wanted to add emotions.
00:33:40We didn't want to show our facial expressions.
00:33:44Everything was planned.
00:33:46But, it didn't look like it was planned.
00:33:48It was natural.
00:33:49It was natural.
00:33:50We had our own plan.
00:33:52So, when I joined the acting class...
00:33:54...I wanted to learn about acting.
00:33:59I've been interested in acting since I was a kid.
00:34:02Okay.
00:34:03I had a CD.
00:34:05An acting CD.
00:34:06A music CD.
00:34:07I wanted to be Spider-Man since I was a kid.
00:34:10What's up, Spider-Man?
00:34:13It's easy to be Spider-Man.
00:34:15Just buy his suit.
00:34:16I want to ask a serious question.
00:34:18Please, don't make me look like Spider-Man.
00:34:21How do I ask a serious question?
00:34:23Now, you're Spider-Man.
00:34:25You can buy his suit online.
00:34:28He has a full suit.
00:34:30He has a cap.
00:34:33If you bite it, you can see his eyes.
00:34:36After you bite it, you can see his eyes.
00:34:38We can squeeze Spider-Man.
00:34:40So, that's what you're doing now?
00:34:44Yes, I'm adding on to my suit.
00:34:47When are you going to wear that suit?
00:34:49I always wear it.
00:34:56But...
00:34:59I can't Google it.
00:35:06That's the most honest answer.
00:35:08Sometimes, when I don't have anything to do,...
00:35:10...I just wear the suit.
00:35:12But when I look at it again,...
00:35:14...I'm like, it's okay.
00:35:16I'll just keep it to myself.
00:35:20Sometimes, they're smart.
00:35:23They always upgrade.
00:35:27Now, I have to buy a new suit.
00:35:30You have to buy a new suit.
00:35:31It's up to date.
00:35:33He's committed to Spider-Man.
00:35:36Now, he has a nanotech suit.
00:35:41So, he has to buy something else.
00:35:45This is the next level.
00:35:48The problem is, I pretend to listen...
00:35:50...and not judge.
00:35:51But, when he laughs, I hear it and I judge.
00:35:53But, I don't want to ask why Spider-Man.
00:35:56Why Spider-Man?
00:35:59At first, I felt sorry for Spider-Man.
00:36:02Imagine the choices that Spider-Man has to make.
00:36:07Take care of his girlfriend's heart or save the world.
00:36:10That's right.
00:36:12What choices does he have?
00:36:15Do you want him to save his girlfriend...
00:36:17...or save the world?
00:36:20That's a big choice.
00:36:22That's why he doesn't get married.
00:36:26That's a big choice.
00:36:27That's why he doesn't get married.
00:36:28That's why you're Spider-Man.
00:36:30Because I want to save the world.
00:36:33That's right.
00:36:37That's logical.
00:36:39If the camera is behind him, he'll laugh.
00:36:44That's right.
00:36:46That's logical.
00:36:47Okay.
00:36:48That's all the questions.
00:36:50If he's married, he'll be busy taking care of his wife...
00:36:53...and saving the world.
00:36:54That's right.
00:36:55But, the good thing is...
00:36:57...our son will grow up to be a fan of Spider-Man.
00:37:00Imagine him being a fan of Spider-Man.
00:37:02He doesn't have to be a clown.
00:37:05Imagine that!
00:37:07It's a budget.
00:37:09We shouldn't show our son that.
00:37:11If we do, he'll be like...
00:37:14My dad is a superhero.
00:37:16My dad is Spider-Man.
00:37:17That's the time.
00:37:19But, before he grows up, we have to show him.
00:37:21We have to watch all of Spider-Man's movies.
00:37:24We have to introduce him.
00:37:25I like Batman.
00:37:27I like Spider-Man.
00:37:29But, I like Superman.
00:37:31I like Superman, but I like Spider-Man.
00:37:34He's still Spider-Man.
00:37:36Superman is an alien.
00:37:39He's afraid of green things.
00:37:41That's why he doesn't eat vegetables.
00:37:45He'll brainwash his son.
00:37:47He has a plan.
00:37:48No, he doesn't.
00:37:49He has a plan.
00:37:50No, he doesn't.
00:37:51It's just a budget.
00:37:54Maybe our son likes Little Pony.
00:37:58We can be Little Pony's fans.
00:38:00For example, his cartoons.
00:38:02That's right.
00:38:03I'm nervous.
00:38:04I'll go to Mr. Razali's house.
00:38:06He'll have Little Pony at home.
00:38:08I'm used to it.
00:38:09My son is okay with it.
00:38:11If it's too hard to buy a horse,...
00:38:14...we can buy a cart.
00:38:15Why?
00:38:16We can ride it when it's small.
00:38:20We can ride it for our son.
00:38:22We can spray it.
00:38:24His son's mother said it's a pony.
00:38:26It's soft.
00:38:28He said it's a pony when he was born.
00:38:30Then, Spider-Man came and kicked him.
00:38:35What are you talking about?
00:38:38Okay.
00:38:39That's good.
00:38:40He'll be on my show.
00:38:42I've never been on any shows.
00:38:47He's a different person.
00:38:50You've been thinking about it for a long time.
00:38:56The details are very detailed.
00:39:00It's well thought of.
00:39:02I've thought about making a video using a horse.
00:39:05If we don't have a horse,...
00:39:07...can we use a small cart?
00:39:10We can make it look like a horse.
00:39:13We can add an extension.
00:39:15We can add a hair extension.
00:39:18Without cruelty towards animals.
00:39:22Then?
00:39:23His body shape is different, right?
00:39:25We can use him as a saddle.
00:39:27We can let him ride it.
00:39:29Not like me.
00:39:30His face is different, too.
00:39:33We can do that.
00:39:35We can call the MUA to help.
00:39:39The MUA can do something.
00:39:41It's a pony.
00:39:43That's a good idea.
00:39:44Maybe we should put him here...
00:39:46...so that he can see his jawline.
00:39:49So that he can see.
00:39:51You should talk to an artist.
00:39:53You can do it.
00:39:56We want to remember the life of Mr. Razali.
00:39:58That's part of Mr. Razali's imagination.
00:40:04Yes.
00:40:05It's rare to see that.
00:40:06Mr. Razali's brain.
00:40:08It's being watched.
00:40:09People are afraid to wait.
00:40:12They think it's a joke.
00:40:14It's serious.
00:40:15He's Spider-Man.
00:40:17I forgot that I've lived before this joke.
00:40:21I was young, too.
00:40:23Let's continue.
00:40:25I'm lost.
00:40:26After this, we'll be back to OAG.
00:40:31We want to go back.
00:40:33How long did it take you to leave OAG...
00:40:35...and come back?
00:40:36The second time.
00:40:38In 2004, OAG played at Anugerah Era in Genting.
00:40:44When he came back, he wanted to play in a big show.
00:40:49He didn't want to.
00:40:51Anugerah.
00:40:53Anugerah played in Genting.
00:40:55So, we joined the band for a while.
00:40:58There was Edwin, Naza and Alim.
00:41:01We got to play with the next generation.
00:41:04After Mr. Razali left,...
00:41:06...another band joined.
00:41:09Alim and Naza.
00:41:10They released one or two other albums.
00:41:13They switched.
00:41:15When Anugerah Era was playing in Genting,...
00:41:18...Radi came back.
00:41:20He wanted to play again.
00:41:22So, we met.
00:41:24Radi and I never fought.
00:41:26He just left the band because of personal reasons.
00:41:29He had other things to do.
00:41:31He promised his father that he'd continue to go to college.
00:41:34So, he kept his promise.
00:41:36Everything was done.
00:41:39I finished my studies.
00:41:41I think I started to do business.
00:41:44I think I can do it.
00:41:46Music is a hobby.
00:41:48It's not the main thing I want to do.
00:41:50It's on the side.
00:41:51So, I can focus on that.
00:41:53When I have time, I'll play music.
00:41:55So, we played again for Anugerah Era.
00:41:57That was the last show I played with the band.
00:42:01After that, he left again.
00:42:05Why did he leave again?
00:42:09That was a long time ago.
00:42:11But he focused on his solo career for a while, right?
00:42:14Yes.
00:42:15There was a time when he was a solo artist.
00:42:17Then, he joined another band.
00:42:19It was a special project.
00:42:21I think he started to get in the way of other jobs.
00:42:26Maybe it wasn't fair for the band...
00:42:28...to wait for us to finish shooting.
00:42:30I understand.
00:42:31There were a lot of things that we had to reject.
00:42:34We couldn't do that.
00:42:36It was a different commitment.
00:42:37It was the schedule.
00:42:39That's the safest answer.
00:42:43No wonder he thought about it for a long time.
00:42:47Okay, wait.
00:42:48After that, you came back for the second time.
00:42:50How was that?
00:42:51Did someone persuade you?
00:42:54For the last time...
00:42:58...someone told me not to hold an anniversary concert.
00:43:02That was the first time.
00:43:04I didn't want to play music anymore.
00:43:06They told me, Justin Bieber is right.
00:43:08Never say never.
00:43:10So, I said, never, never, never.
00:43:12He called Justin Bieber.
00:43:14He's talented.
00:43:15I didn't care.
00:43:18Anyway, let me explain about JB.
00:43:23After he said he wanted to do it for 25 years...
00:43:26...we practiced again.
00:43:28We met the old members again.
00:43:30But, it didn't work out.
00:43:32Something happened.
00:43:34But, it was fun to play the band again.
00:43:37There were new songs.
00:43:40It was fun to play the band again.
00:43:43We didn't want to play the old songs.
00:43:45It's okay to play the old songs.
00:43:47Maybe the fans didn't hear us play live.
00:43:51But, we had to have new songs.
00:43:53We had to have new products.
00:43:58We had new songs.
00:44:00Infinity, Burung Hantu.
00:44:02We recorded one or two songs.
00:44:05We didn't get to play for 25 years.
00:44:07We played until we were 45 years old.
00:44:09We played until we were 30 years old.
00:44:11After we were 30 years old...
00:44:13...that was Mr. Razali's dream when we were kids.
00:44:16Do you remember?
00:44:18We wanted to play in front of a lot of people.
00:44:20When we were 30 years old, we thought we could do it.
00:44:24All of us could do it.
00:44:26Amy, Awi.
00:44:29Then, we watched All This Money.
00:44:31Butterfingers.
00:44:33We did a big concert.
00:44:35Maybe people want to see the nostalgic value of O.A.G...
00:44:39...from the past to the present.
00:44:41I think we can do it.
00:44:44We have enough songs to take people on that journey.
00:44:50So, we were all out for the 30-year concert.
00:44:53Honestly, Mr. Razali was all out.
00:44:56We went to Ipoh.
00:44:58We made videos here and there.
00:45:01We went out here and there.
00:45:03We played until the concert was over.
00:45:05But, after the concert, we didn't meet his expectations.
00:45:09Justin Bieber said, never say never.
00:45:12So, we went out right away.
00:45:15What did you expect?
00:45:20I was satisfied with the 30-year concert.
00:45:25The preparation was okay.
00:45:32But, I was satisfied with one thing.
00:45:37He knew if you made it or not.
00:45:41You can't just say it.
00:45:45He wasn't ready.
00:45:48We were okay with him until now.
00:45:56But, maybe there were other people...
00:45:59...who were against it.
00:46:03So, I said, it's okay. I don't want to prolong the story.
00:46:06I'll back off.
00:46:09Back off and focus on other things.
00:46:11When you back off, you didn't have any resistance?
00:46:13We did.
00:46:15But, that was the third time.
00:46:20Especially after the 30-year concert.
00:46:25After such a big event.
00:46:28For me, it was a big event...
00:46:30...because of our 30-year achievements.
00:46:33Even though we were out and in.
00:46:36After that, he came to a decision.
00:46:39He said, this is it.
00:46:41He took Michael Jackson's quote, this is it.
00:46:47Why?
00:46:49It's okay if you're not satisfied.
00:46:51Why did you leave him?
00:46:54He didn't want to be in that circle.
00:47:00He could've been a detective.
00:47:02But, he wasn't here.
00:47:04He was in Africa.
00:47:07That's where I'm heading.
00:47:09He's right.
00:47:12He's not an individual.
00:47:16He's a radio DJ.
00:47:18Why?
00:47:20That's it.
00:47:24Let's talk about DJs.
00:47:26We're going to talk about Baba.
00:47:29I'm the newest member of Ciri Razali.
00:47:32To be honest, I didn't dare to watch it.
00:47:35Why?
00:47:36Because my father passed away in 2022.
00:47:40I think it was the same year.
00:47:44September 2022.
00:47:46October 2022.
00:47:48It's a different month.
00:47:50So, I had a hard time...
00:47:52...bringing myself to Pawagang...
00:47:54...to watch such stories.
00:47:56But, you haven't been to Laya Perak for a long time.
00:47:58That was your return to Baba.
00:48:00When was the shoot?
00:48:06It was in mid-2023.
00:48:08The last one was in 2024, right?
00:48:10Yes, it was in 2023.
00:48:12So, you lost your father.
00:48:14How difficult was it to do that?
00:48:16It was very difficult.
00:48:18I almost fell down.
00:48:22I saw it on camera.
00:48:25He got that.
00:48:31It was so close.
00:48:33I almost fell down.
00:48:37We have a producer.
00:48:39It was difficult because I was only a year old.
00:48:41And the character was like...
00:48:44...a character I've never been offered.
00:48:47A serious character like that.
00:48:49A father, then a father-in-law...
00:48:51...and then a child.
00:48:54I lost my job.
00:48:56It was a difficult character.
00:48:58People usually see you as...
00:49:01...a comedian.
00:49:03A fun guy.
00:49:05If it was 10 or 20 years ago...
00:49:07...you could still be a college student.
00:49:11Now, you could be a professor.
00:49:15That's advanced.
00:49:21As long as he's not Spider-Man.
00:49:23But, he's in the university.
00:49:26Don't go there again.
00:49:32When I got the offer, I was surprised.
00:49:36At first, I thought, how can I be a father-in-law?
00:49:43The story is very straightforward.
00:49:45It's very linear.
00:49:47It starts from here...
00:49:49...and ends there.
00:49:52So,...
00:49:55...when I said, I wanted this character...
00:49:57...because it was very challenging.
00:50:00I didn't know how to be a father.
00:50:03So, the only thing we saw...
00:50:05...was my own late father.
00:50:08The way he handled his children...
00:50:11...was the only way to be a father.
00:50:15He never hit them. He never yelled at them.
00:50:19There were things that we knew were his limits.
00:50:23He was soft-spoken when he spoke.
00:50:26We took those things.
00:50:28He has his limits.
00:50:30You can't lie to him.
00:50:32If it's about school, you can say it.
00:50:35Even if it's about school, don't lie to him.
00:50:39Just be honest.
00:50:41If it's about school, go.
00:50:44But, don't go.
00:50:47Don't lie to him.
00:50:50Where did you go?
00:50:52I have a class on Saturday at 3 pm.
00:50:55But, I'm going to Port Dickson with a friend.
00:50:57That's his story.
00:50:59So, I went.
00:51:01That was the only time he was angry.
00:51:04So, we knew we couldn't lie to him.
00:51:06We took those things to Baba's story.
00:51:09There's a scene where Maya lied to him.
00:51:12Baba is soft-spoken in this story.
00:51:14That was the only time he was angry...
00:51:16...when his son lied to him.
00:51:18So, we took those things to Baba.
00:51:22Even though you haven't had this experience as a father.
00:51:25You still see him as a reference.
00:51:28That's right.
00:51:30I didn't know how to be a father.
00:51:34I also saw my friends...
00:51:37...and how we used to know them.
00:51:39Now, they're different.
00:51:42We were talking about football.
00:51:44Suddenly, I got a message.
00:51:46I went out to buy some food for my son.
00:51:48I went home.
00:51:50It's not wrong.
00:51:52It happened.
00:51:54This is one of the father figures...
00:51:56...that I admire the most.
00:51:58When he was around 12 years old...
00:52:02...he changed.
00:52:06He's not a son. He's a wife.
00:52:09I heard your son send you a voice note.
00:52:11Sometimes, he'd call me on FaceTime.
00:52:15He's a wife.
00:52:17You have to understand that.
00:52:23That's one of the....
00:52:25Why is he laughing?
00:52:27It's true.
00:52:29It's funny.
00:52:31We can imagine the moment at home.
00:52:34Maybe your wife is bored watching TV alone.
00:52:37She'd go home early.
00:52:39That's right.
00:52:45That's why I'm good now.
00:52:47When I go out to play football...
00:52:49...I turn off the data.
00:52:53Laila, look at this.
00:52:55Laila, look at this.
00:52:57She's not looking.
00:52:59We have a phone.
00:53:01It's an AI feature.
00:53:03When you're playing football...
00:53:05...no one answers.
00:53:07It's advanced.
00:53:08You can't even put your voice.
00:53:10It's true.
00:53:11Hold on.
00:53:13Roll in two minutes.
00:53:15Hold on.
00:53:18You're scoring a goal.
00:53:20It's more advanced.
00:53:22There's a new feature.
00:53:24AI-powered phone.
00:53:26It's crazy, right?
00:53:28It's so crazy.
00:53:30I feel sorry for your girlfriend.
00:53:32I don't use that feature.
00:53:34There's an AI counter.
00:53:36But there's another phone...
00:53:38...with a deepfake feature...
00:53:40...that can detect it.
00:53:42If you use a different filter...
00:53:44...it will detect it.
00:53:46Deepfake?
00:53:47AI has that feature now.
00:53:49You can use one phone but you can't use the other.
00:53:51They're at war.
00:53:53He's changed the topic.
00:53:55If you're brave enough, you can do it.
00:53:57If you're not, we'll see who can do it.
00:54:00That's what he said.
00:54:03It has nothing to do with deepfake or AI.
00:54:07I took my dad.
00:54:13My wife is my dad's biggest support system.
00:54:19When he lost his job, he gave up...
00:54:23...and his wife came to me.
00:54:27We're a team.
00:54:30It's a family.
00:54:32It's not a sad story, it's a love story.
00:54:34It's not a sad story, it's a love story.
00:54:38We hope that those who are in OTT...
00:54:41...will join OTT...
00:54:45...for the second chance to see your dad.
00:54:48I want to tell you a short story.
00:54:50When my dad first came out, he was a semi-indie.
00:54:54He didn't have a big sponsorship.
00:54:56We, the producer, and Finesse were just a little help.
00:55:02When he was about to come out, they said...
00:55:06...they only had four days to watch the show...
00:55:10...and get a good response.
00:55:12If not, most cinemas will pull him out early.
00:55:16They had four days to gauge his performance.
00:55:21During the first four days, I was really scared.
00:55:25Because we...
00:55:28...didn't want to expect a huge box office success.
00:55:33Of course, that was our hope.
00:55:35We wanted people to appreciate our work...
00:55:40...and watch our best films.
00:55:45We wanted people to watch it first.
00:55:47So, the first four days were really scary.
00:55:51But in the end...
00:55:54...we got more than a month to watch it.
00:55:58We didn't expect that.
00:56:00It was also because of the song, Noh.
00:56:03In the first week, I kept singing Bisa.
00:56:08I kept singing Bisa, Bisa, Bisa.
00:56:11I kept saying, this film is going to be a hit.
00:56:14I think I'm going to go crazy.
00:56:17So, I was satisfied with the promotion.
00:56:20Now, when we listen to Bisa...
00:56:25...we know that the song has a ghost in it.
00:56:27That's right.
00:56:30It's God's secret.
00:56:32Let's move on.
00:56:34Now that you're no longer with O.A.G...
00:56:37...you have a new band.
00:56:39What's the name of the band?
00:56:42The X-Acts.
00:56:44At first, I wanted to say The X's.
00:56:46Because...
00:56:48...the story is like this.
00:56:50The story is like this.
00:56:55The story is like this.
00:56:58We didn't have a plan.
00:57:00After the concert...
00:57:02...I had to make my own decision.
00:57:04I didn't have to say anything.
00:57:06I decided to make an announcement.
00:57:08I told Raditya, thank you.
00:57:10We'll go our separate ways.
00:57:12So, we went out.
00:57:14But...
00:57:16...without realising it...
00:57:18...the next day, we all went out.
00:57:21We didn't know...
00:57:23We didn't know why. We didn't expect it.
00:57:25We didn't have a plan.
00:57:27We didn't expect it.
00:57:29After we went out, we didn't form a band.
00:57:32We all did our own thing.
00:57:34We all had our own jobs.
00:57:36We all had our own jobs.
00:57:38We all had our own jobs.
00:57:41So...
00:57:43...for a long time, we said...
00:57:45...we missed playing music.
00:57:47How could we not play music?
00:57:49We missed it.
00:57:51Because we had friends.
00:57:53We could just hang out and eat.
00:57:56But we could also jam.
00:57:58So, why not meet up and jam first...
00:58:00...and then eat?
00:58:03The first dilemma was...
00:58:05...what song to jam?
00:58:07What genre?
00:58:09We always played old songs.
00:58:11The band said they were an old company.
00:58:14An old employer.
00:58:16So, what do we do now?
00:58:18So, we made our own songs.
00:58:20We all had our own songs.
00:58:22So, we listened to old songs.
00:58:24They were supportive.
00:58:26We chose two of our own songs.
00:58:28Two of Amal's songs.
00:58:30So, we practised.
00:58:32Now, we've recorded two songs.
00:58:34So, from the excess...
00:58:36...we didn't want it.
00:58:39So, just the exact.
00:58:41The exact.
00:58:43The exact band.
00:58:45E-X-A-C-T.
00:58:46The exact band.
00:58:48Who are the band members?
00:58:50I'm the drummer and singer.
00:58:52I'm the vocalist.
00:58:54The vocalist and singer...
00:58:56...are two different people.
00:58:58I'm the vocalist.
00:59:00I can sing my own songs.
00:59:02The singer, like Lina Nazir...
00:59:04...can sing other people's songs.
00:59:06I can sing my own songs and other people's songs.
00:59:08I agree.
00:59:09That's the difference.
00:59:11I'm a vocalist for my band.
00:59:13There's another singer, Amal.
00:59:15Okay.
00:59:17He used to be in AF.
00:59:19Then, there's Yan.
00:59:20He used to play bass.
00:59:21Then, there's Izmay.
00:59:23He's a keyboardist.
00:59:25He's a teacher.
00:59:27He's a music teacher now.
00:59:29And then, there's Nizam.
00:59:31He's a guitarist.
00:59:33It's a different line-up.
00:59:38It's a reunion.
00:59:40It's a reunion.
00:59:42He's like...
00:59:44...Rashidi Ishaq.
00:59:46The Dead Mushroom.
00:59:48Rashidi can sing his own songs.
00:59:51He's a vocalist.
00:59:53There are other people...
00:59:55...who can sing their own songs...
00:59:57...but not all of them.
00:59:59Some people can sing...
01:00:02...but not all of them.
01:00:04He's a star.
01:00:05Then, we'll be jokers.
01:00:09He can sing Damian Rice's songs.
01:00:11He can sing Bruno Mars' songs.
01:00:14How many songs have you released?
01:00:17We've recorded six songs.
01:00:19We also play gigs and live shows.
01:00:22We're in phase one now.
01:00:24We've finished recording.
01:00:26We'll have a show in Matic KL on Saturday.
01:00:29We'll have an acoustic show.
01:00:32We had a show the other day.
01:00:35We played in the morning.
01:00:37OEG played in the evening.
01:00:39It was the same show.
01:00:41We started from scratch.
01:00:45When we saw the flyers, we were a bit excited.
01:00:48OEG was there.
01:00:50We played in the afternoon and he played in the evening.
01:00:53But he was there.
01:00:55You could hear his voice.
01:00:57He's a monitor.
01:01:00I saw him on the spot.
01:01:02He's a monitor.
01:01:04I thought he was going to eat me.
01:01:07We can play together.
01:01:09He can do the opening.
01:01:11Isn't it hard to play drums and sing?
01:01:14At first, I thought Phil Collins was an amateur.
01:01:19I thought he was just an amateur.
01:01:22Phil Collins can do it, so can I.
01:01:26It's different.
01:01:30When we really want to sing, we know how to do it.
01:01:34When we really want to sing, we have the breathing.
01:01:37Like Dina said, we know when to breathe and when to do it.
01:01:41But when it comes to playing drums, he has his own breathing.
01:01:45He's playing with energy.
01:01:47It's stamina.
01:01:49He has to be fast.
01:01:52That's what people say.
01:01:54When you want to sing and play drums, forget about your macho face.
01:01:57You can't cover your face.
01:02:01You can't do it.
01:02:03Everything is exposed.
01:02:06Maybe you have to wear a Spider-Man mask.
01:02:09Maybe.
01:02:11He went there.
01:02:13It's okay.
01:02:15We can squeeze the Spider-Man mask.
01:02:17If we're tired, we can squeeze it.
01:02:19We can bite it.
01:02:21His right leg is different from his left leg.
01:02:23His hands and mouth are different.
01:02:25Even his teeth are different.
01:02:28When he plays the guitar, he can stop for a while.
01:02:30But when he plays the drums, he can't stop.
01:02:33His feet are different.
01:02:35It's multi-tasking.
01:02:37We make songs based on how we play the drums.
01:02:40We're slow, so we can relax.
01:02:45The problem is, we have to customise a stand.
01:02:50We can't put it on the side.
01:02:54It's hard to put it on the side.
01:02:58We can't put it here.
01:03:00We have to put it on the right hand.
01:03:02I tried it the other day.
01:03:05Did it feel like Britney Spears?
01:03:07Yes.
01:03:08It felt like Britney Spears.
01:03:09Now, it feels like Lisa.
01:03:11Now.
01:03:14But we can't.
01:03:16It's too far.
01:03:18We can't put it on the side.
01:03:21It's too noisy.
01:03:23This is how we do it.
01:03:25We have to go up.
01:03:31It's like a scorpion.
01:03:34We have to tie it to our waist.
01:03:36We have to do it ourselves.
01:03:38When we walk, we can play the flute.
01:03:40We can walk forward.
01:03:42We can walk forward.
01:03:45It's too noisy.
01:03:48It's like a real scorpion.
01:03:50That's one of the things in this band.
01:03:53This band is like us.
01:03:55We bring it far, but we bring it back.
01:03:57Okay?
01:03:58Sorry.
01:03:59It's nothing.
01:04:01This band is like a place where we can have fun.
01:04:05We want to jam again.
01:04:07We want to make songs again.
01:04:09We pray for the best for Majikan Lama.
01:04:12It's the same for all of us.
01:04:14Majikan Lama, Majikan Baru.
01:04:16It's not our fault.
01:04:18We want an industrious band.
01:04:21In closing, I have a question for you.
01:04:24Why?
01:04:25I don't know.
01:04:26The producer wants to know about Nasi Minyak.
01:04:28It won't be long.
01:04:30Just ask him.
01:04:32I can't.
01:04:34Just ask him.
01:04:35I'll poke my finger.
01:04:38Like this.
01:04:40He knows the answer.
01:04:42He's used to answering this question.
01:04:45Ms. Razali.
01:04:47I heard that you want to end the Bujang era.
01:04:51Is that true?
01:04:53Ms. Razali.
01:04:54Bujang?
01:04:57Why is my friend like this?
01:05:00Why is my friend like this?
01:05:02Why is my friend like this?
01:05:04Okay.
01:05:05He...
01:05:08He...
01:05:10Especially when you have a lot of relationships...
01:05:13...in front of the camera.
01:05:16It's hard, right?
01:05:18We don't want to hide it.
01:05:20But we don't want to...
01:05:22...overdo it.
01:05:23We don't want to share what we have planned.
01:05:27That means...
01:05:30...it's not wrong if we know someone.
01:05:32If there's a plan to end the Bujang era...
01:05:37...it doesn't mean that I don't want to save the world.
01:05:41You're still Spider-Man.
01:05:44It doesn't mean that I don't want to save the world.
01:05:46I still want to save the world.
01:05:49But maybe in this phase...
01:05:53...love...
01:05:55...needs...
01:05:57...more than...
01:05:59...the three cats that I have now.
01:06:02Okay.
01:06:03When I was making Babah...
01:06:05...I saw the cats in Babah.
01:06:07They're the closest.
01:06:09But they're worth a million.
01:06:12Sometimes, when we're hungry...
01:06:14...the cats won't eat.
01:06:16Right?
01:06:17But they're worth a million.
01:06:20So, there's a reference.
01:06:23The cat is the main character in the film.
01:06:26Yes.
01:06:28But you're talking about your girlfriend.
01:06:30So, it's a reference.
01:06:32Yes.
01:06:33That's why I asked you that question.
01:06:35It's confusing.
01:06:36Is it 2025?
01:06:38Is it the near future?
01:06:40If you want to have a wedding, I'm available.
01:06:43Sure.
01:06:44No problem.
01:06:45We've known each other for 21 years.
01:06:47So, the rate has to be based on the year we've known each other.
01:06:5021 years.
01:06:51That's right.
01:06:52The rate...
01:06:53I've never thought about that.
01:06:56I'll settle for the food.
01:06:58I'll settle for the food.
01:06:59You're so funny.
01:07:03Sure.
01:07:05We can discuss it.
01:07:07Come on.
01:07:09Sure.
01:07:10You're hired?
01:07:11Sure.
01:07:12You're fired.
01:07:13Don't say that so suddenly.
01:07:15There's a story like that.
01:07:17Apprentice.
01:07:18It's a Malay story.
01:07:20I'm an actor.
01:07:21I acted with that person.
01:07:23It's a comedy.
01:07:25You're fired.
01:07:26But, I'm actually looking for a job.
01:07:27You're hired.
01:07:29You shouldn't mention the story.
01:07:31I understand.
01:07:32He'll re-write the script.
01:07:34I understand.
01:07:35You're fired.
01:07:37He played the tripes.
01:07:39There's a piano.
01:07:41It's a double bass.
01:07:43He played it with Dina Nazir.
01:07:46He's already there.
01:07:48Is he coming?
01:07:50Does he have a Babau?
01:07:51Is he coming?
01:07:52Has he ordered?
01:07:53He's already there.
01:07:54Instruments are already there.
01:07:56And I know something new about myself.
01:07:59The ring I'm wearing is actually size 18.
01:08:02Just the size.
01:08:03Ah, I see.
01:08:04New things that we know.
01:08:05I see.
01:08:06But I don't have it.
01:08:07Okay.
01:08:08Not yet.
01:08:09Curious.
01:08:10I'm just curious because I want to order a new Spider-Man suit.
01:08:12Okay.
01:08:13Why do you want to order a ring?
01:08:14Because my fingers are all like this.
01:08:16Oh, really?
01:08:17But it's not a number, you know.
01:08:18It's ML.
01:08:19Yes.
01:08:20He already knows that the ring is 18.
01:08:21But I can't marry wearing a Spider-Man suit.
01:08:24No way.
01:08:25You don't know what's inside, right?
01:08:26Even if you wear a tuxedo outside.
01:08:27Don't.
01:08:28Even if you wear a suit inside.
01:08:29Don't.
01:08:30You'll get a sprain inside.
01:08:31No need.
01:08:32Okay.
01:08:33This year, someone made a Malaysian suit for Ultraman.
01:08:34Ah, that's right.
01:08:35What's wrong with that?
01:08:36It's viral, right?
01:08:37What's wrong with that?
01:08:38Songkok put a picture of Spider-Man.
01:08:39Songkok?
01:08:40Okay.
01:08:41No, no.
01:08:42So in Spider-Man...
01:08:45Maybe the strongest is the t-shirt.
01:08:47Whether it's a Malaysian suit, wedding dress, kurta, or jubah.
01:08:50Maybe not.
01:08:52God willing.
01:08:53I still don't understand.
01:08:55In Spider-Man, we let the suit...
01:08:58...as a toy.
01:09:00We don't want it to be part of our daily wear.
01:09:03Yes, that's right.
01:09:04But we still want to save the world.
01:09:06Yes, it's okay.
01:09:07God willing.
01:09:08But we already know that he has a band.
01:09:09Dina and Nazir have been hired.
01:09:11The ring is already?
01:09:12The ring is size 18.
01:09:14Have you answered it?
01:09:16A little.
01:09:17It's getting closer.
01:09:18It's getting clearer.
01:09:19So that means...
01:09:20...the question is not that far away.
01:09:22It's the truth.
01:09:24Okay, I understand.
01:09:25Maybe we don't have enough oil.
01:09:27Maybe we...
01:09:28What about you?
01:09:31God willing.
01:09:32His budget is expensive.
01:09:35Wow.
01:09:36His budget is expensive.
01:09:40I don't know if it's kerabu rice or dagang rice.
01:09:44Maybe it's not dagang rice.
01:09:45It's not dagang rice.
01:09:46It's a little cloudy.
01:09:47What is this?
01:09:50Kerabu Kelantan.
01:09:53I'm looking for it.
01:09:54Where is the wedding destination?
01:09:56That's it.
01:09:57What kind of rice is that?
01:09:58The food.
01:09:59She said kerabu rice.
01:10:00That's the right one.
01:10:03Okay, kerabu rice.
01:10:06What's that?
01:10:07A microphone box?
01:10:09I think we can finish it.
01:10:11We'll give a clip hanger here.
01:10:13God willing.
01:10:14This will make it easier for Ci Razali...
01:10:16...for his new band.
01:10:18Support.
01:10:19Look at Ci Razali's Instagram.
01:10:20It's there.
01:10:22All the information is there.
01:10:24The next project is the same.
01:10:26Congratulations on your new car.
01:10:28It's in advance.
01:10:29I don't know when, but it's in advance.
01:10:30We're praying for it.
01:10:32Thank you for today, Ci.
01:10:33See you next week.
01:10:34Peace be upon you.