" Founder has given tasks to different people." Barrister Ali Zafar gave the inside news
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00:00Mr. Khan knew that the meetings would be halted and that is why he has given different tasks to different people.
00:07Even if you are not present, you should implement what I have just said and follow it.
00:16So those who have been given tasks, as far as I know, they are doing their job.
00:22If someone is not doing it, I think the workers will not forgive him.
00:26Mr. Sen, will you shed some light on who has been given what tasks?
00:31Look, there are some things that I may not be able to tell you.
00:35There are a lot of tasks, important tasks.
00:38And what to do, who has to do it, all that has been told.
00:43Since the meetings are not taking place and we are not able to give our statements,
00:51so when the time comes, we will tell you who is doing what.
00:56But for example, you gave an example.
00:58If this was a strategy that after Eid, we have to go into a protest mode,
01:06then the preparation should be complete and it should be implemented.
01:11But the preparation is not complete, Mr. Sen.
01:14Neither is the preparation complete nor is the leadership ready.
01:17Because what I was told, my off-the-record sources,
01:20they told me that no such protest is being prepared that Islamabad will come and there will be a protest.
01:25And there is no such thing at the moment.
01:27Yes, this is not at all.
01:29I can also tell you that this is not the strategy at the moment.
01:34This strategy was not there before.
01:35There was no intention to protest in Islamabad after Eid.
01:41But there is a different strategy and it should be implemented.
01:46And you will see soon that it will be implemented.
01:49What is the strategy?
01:51Is it a conversation?
01:52Is it a negotiation?
01:53Is it to reach out to others, Mr. Sen?
01:55As far as reaching out is concerned, it is news.
02:03And the news that I have, I will treat it as news.
02:10What is the authenticity of it or what is the real thing?
02:14I have a meeting in the next two days.
02:17So when I find out directly what it is and what is the strategy on it, I will be able to tell you.
02:24But personally, I think that you should keep the door of dialogue open for a political party.
02:35The strategy that was made for it, which has been implemented more than half,
02:41is that we have to form an alliance with the opposition first.
02:47And then as a demand of the joint opposition, if we get a chance to negotiate, we will negotiate.
02:54So as far as the alliance is concerned, work is being done on it.
02:59100% has not been successful yet.
03:02Work is being done on it.
03:04It reaches 100% to 98%.
03:07Mr. Maulana is very happy and gives statements.
03:10Then there is a statement by Ali Amin Gandapur sahib.
03:12The water spills.
03:13So what is happening?
03:14Why is this happening?
03:18This is also something that has happened.
03:22But to look at it in this way,
03:25I will tell you about our positive side.
03:30The positive side is that on many principles,
03:34we have one common ground with Mr. Maulana.
03:40That is, we trust each other on those grounds.
03:44For example, selling the democracy, re-election,
03:47becoming the new chief election commissioner,
03:51becoming independent, making a good chief election commissioner,
03:56making clean electoral reforms,
04:00we have an agreement on these democratic principles.
04:05Our decision has been made.
04:08But there are some things on which there are still issues.
04:12And you pointed out something.
04:14I can also point out something else.
04:16On which our confidence-building measures have increased the chance of an agreement.
04:24But those things have not been completed yet.
04:27After confidence-building measures,
04:29what should we expect?
04:31Should we expect that there will be an alliance?
04:33Or will you still go on your own terms?
04:40Look, to a large extent,
04:42because we have different parties,
04:44and ultimately both these parties stand in front of each other in elections.
04:49Especially in the KPK area,
04:52they do not have an election alliance.
04:57Candidates are always against each other.
05:00Workers also stand against each other.
05:02So it is not possible that both parties,
05:05both political parties merge in one place.
05:08They will do their own politics.
05:10But as I said, there are some principles on which we can sit and oppose.
05:15And I think those principles are very important.
05:18Once those principles are decided,
05:21then I think this alliance can go ahead to that extent.
05:24Now we are talking about principles.
05:26Mr. Behraz, you are a lawyer.
05:28There is a Government Servant Conduct Rule of 1964.
05:30It says that no Government Servant can participate in politics,
05:33or any political rally, or political chanting,
05:36or even his family cannot participate in it.
05:39Here we have CM of KPK,
05:41who is doing very well with Wifaq on many issues.
05:44He is saying that we will come and protest
05:46if the issue of NFC is not solved by April.
05:48He will bring the Government Servant,
05:50he will bring the Government Officers,
05:52he will bring the Police.
05:54Will this matter be legal, Mr. Behraz?
05:58I think you have answered your question.
06:01Clearly, this law is very clear
06:04that Civil Servants cannot participate in such protests.
06:08And this is the law.
06:11Let them do their work.
06:13I think it is not right to involve them in such politics.
06:18This is my clear view, my opinion.
06:26But I would also like to say that
06:29as far as the NFC is concerned,
06:31this is something that has been disputed for a long time.
06:38It is very important that it is solved in a way
06:42that you do not deprive a province of its rights
06:47through the NFC award.
06:51That I agree with.
06:53That I agree with.
06:55Mr. Behraz, last question.
06:57Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
06:59his party, Pakistan People's Party,
07:01and PMLN are having a water dispute
07:03regarding the Cholistan Canal.
07:05You must remember that before the government was formed,
07:07the People's Party reached out to PTI
07:09to form a government together.
07:12So let's form a government together.
07:14Now, there is a small dispute between the government and PTI.
07:17Does PTI have any intention of exploiting this dispute?
07:20Let's reach out to PTI again.
07:22The matter is not being resolved from where you want to talk.
07:25They are saying that if you want to do politics,
07:27then the politicians will have to talk to each other.
07:29So let's see if the politicians can come up with a solution.
07:32Look, in my opinion,
07:35the first step is to form a joint opposition.
07:39The People's Party is in the government,
07:41so let's treat it as a government party.
07:45So, first of all, it is necessary
07:47that your joint opposition becomes an alliance,
07:50which can form TORs,
07:53and we can decide how we want to proceed.