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00:00:00Welcome back to Aham Tareen Din and the political atmosphere in Islamabad is hot right now.

00:00:09The first session of the day was the session of the cabinet.

00:00:13It was not held on time.

00:00:14The session of the National Assembly was also not held on time.

00:00:16The session of the Senate was also not held on time.

00:00:17Because Maulana Fazlur Rehman is a game changer.

00:00:20Whether Maulana Fazlur Rehman has agreed or not, this is the question that is being answered in a contradictory manner.

00:00:26Sheikh Khawaja Asif and Ishaq Dar say that Maulana Fazlur Rehman has agreed.

00:00:29They will also vote.

00:00:30While Maulana Fazlur Rehman is also meeting the PTI Waqf.

00:00:33A while ago, the Maghribi Bajamaat was held.

00:00:35PTI Waqf was present there.

00:00:37Maulana Fazlur Rehman was led by Maulana Fazlur Rehman.

00:00:38Now it is being said that it is possible that a while later,

00:00:42former Prime Minister Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif,

00:00:44Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar

00:00:47will go to meet Maulana Fazlur Rehman.

00:00:50They will meet.

00:00:51It is being said in this meeting that Maulana Fazlur Rehman has some grievances

00:00:55and reservations about the PDM-Itihad, which he has repeatedly expressed.

00:01:06Recently, when Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif met him,

00:01:09he said that you have come with us.

00:01:11He said that I am where I was.

00:01:12You people have changed your path.

00:01:14So, Maulana has some complaints about the PDM-Itihad.

00:01:17When former Prime Minister Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif meets Maulana Fazlur Rehman,

00:01:21Maulana will not be able to remove his grievances.

00:01:24Secondly, Maulana says that reform should be based on reform.

00:01:28What will be the reform based on reform?

00:01:31How many grievances does Maulana agree with?

00:01:34And how many points does Maulana Fazlur Rehman want to change?

00:01:39Along with that, the 63A case,

00:01:42it would be suitable for the political parties to change the 63A at this time,

00:01:50for today's legislation and reform.

00:01:53But will the political parties be able to bear the burden of this 63A in the coming days,

00:01:59where floor-crossing is allowed?

00:02:01Because this will become a routine matter.

00:02:03And if it is allowed and reformed,

00:02:06then for the political parties,

00:02:09to keep their positions on the floor of the house,

00:02:12and especially during voting, which is a very crucial matter,

00:02:15whether it is the budget or other legislative matters,

00:02:18or the election of the leader of the house,

00:02:20then these 63A matters will become very challenging for the political parties.

00:02:25So, is this 63A also a very big challenge at this time,

00:02:28in the eyes of Maulana Fazlur Rehman, or in the eyes of other allies?

00:02:33Because if we look at the current situation,

00:02:36the consultations that are taking place,

00:02:38the consultations that are taking place in the Prime Minister's house,

00:02:40the people of the Pakistan People's Party do not participate in them,

00:02:43they meet in Aiwan-e-Sadr and call for their own consultations.

00:02:47So, this is a very interesting situation.

00:02:50Now, Mr. Khawar Ghumman has joined us, let's have a chat with him.

00:02:53Mr. Khawar, Maulana Fazlur Rehman is definitely a game-changer in this.

00:02:58Now, if these 8 numbers are controlled,

00:03:02and if they vote, then this game is in the favor of the entire government.

00:03:07Will the votes be completed?

00:03:09Look, it seems that the votes will be completed,

00:03:14but the vote will still be very close.

00:03:17It is a matter of one or two numbers, especially on the issue of narcotics.

00:03:22Similarly, you are seeing the news right now,

00:03:24that the two senators of the BNP Mangal Group are also being discussed,

00:03:29because if those two senators do not vote,

00:03:32then the number of 64 will not be completed in that way.

00:03:35Therefore, this number game will remain a game until all the votes are counted in front of us.

00:03:45Because we are not saying this,

00:03:47when Mr. Khawar Ghumman was asked today,

00:03:52he said that the number game is complete, but it is very close.

00:03:56This does not mean that if you want 224, then you have 230, 236, 240,

00:04:04or if you want 64 in the Senate, then you have 70+, 75.

00:04:10You can say that you are standing on the edge.

00:04:16Therefore, the number game will not be clear until people come forward.

00:04:22Because Mr. Tariq-e-Insaab, by coincidence,

00:04:26he is also a cast fellow of mine, Brigadier Aslam Ghumman,

00:04:30and from my home constituency, 74, Sialkot,

00:04:34he has won the election.

00:04:38There is also news from him that maybe he is going to meet the government,

00:04:43because he is not able to contact Mr. Tariq-e-Insaab.

00:04:46The affidavit that his people are saying, they have given it.

00:04:50The Supreme Court's decision has also come yesterday.

00:04:53Now, the decision of the Supreme Court has been clarified again.

00:04:56How much effect will it have?

00:04:58Now, a lot of things, the issue is quite complicated.

00:05:01Because the Election Commission has not made any kind of notification about it

00:05:07even after the notification has been made.

00:05:13Therefore, the number game is also closed.

00:05:16That is why, Mr. Maulana is the center of attention.

00:05:19Without Mr. Maulana, it becomes unthinkable for the government.

00:05:25Because he has 8 MNAs and 5 senators.

00:05:28If they are removed, then the government has no fighting chance.

00:05:36Therefore, till the last moment, this match will remain interesting.

00:05:42Mr. Maulana, what are you saying?

00:05:43In this match, how many votes does Mr. Maulana want to score?

00:05:47Look, one news has started to come that Mr. Maulana,

00:05:51in one of his meetings, he has also said that

00:05:56when we were together in PDM,

00:05:59someone had said that Mr. Maulana,

00:06:02when we win the next election,

00:06:05we would like to see you in the Presidency.

00:06:09So, Mr. Maulana, with a smile, expressed his desire that

00:06:12you had promised me the Presidency,

00:06:15but you did not get us any lift.

00:06:18So, now look, Mr. Maulana...

00:06:21But look, the matter of Presidency has been decided with the Pakistan People's Party.

00:06:26Mr. Asewali Zardari is present there.

00:06:28Now, what is left?

00:06:29The government is now bargaining.

00:06:31Where is it doing it?

00:06:33What is left for the government to bargain with Mr. Maulana?

00:06:35Look, one thing is that in KP,

00:06:39there is a matter of the Governor.

00:06:41That night, I heard that Bilawal Kutul Zardari

00:06:44had taken the FIFA of Mr. Kundi.

00:06:46He said, take this, Mr. Maulana, if you want this.

00:06:48So, that has also been offered.

00:06:50Similarly, there is a matter of two senators.

00:06:52Similarly, in the federal government,

00:06:55they will get the ministries of their choice.

00:07:00In Balochistan, because they are present in a large number,

00:07:06they can also be adjusted in the government.

00:07:09But Mr. Khawar, think about one thing.

00:07:11We are talking right now.

00:07:13Where did this matter start from?

00:07:15The report of the Law and Justice Commission.

00:07:17More than 80% of the cases we saw were lower judiciary.

00:07:22The remaining 20% were top judiciary.

00:07:24There are thousands of cases of the senior judiciary on one judge.

00:07:29And because of that, it was thought that we have to do this.

00:07:32There may be many other things behind it,

00:07:35which the government wants to do,

00:07:37but the foundation has been laid.

00:07:39Today, here, apart from basic politics and everything,

00:07:42on the basis of some people and some people,

00:07:44all these decisions are being made.

00:07:47This is how the path is being drawn.

00:07:49So, do you think that in the future,

00:07:52all these issues will be solved?

00:07:56Or will the situation always remain complex?

00:07:59Mr. Hadi, this is your question.

00:08:02If I answer it as it is,

00:08:05if you want to solve the real issue of justice and foreign justice in the country,

00:08:11then you will have to start with lower judiciary.

00:08:13Exactly.

00:08:14For that, you will have to come up with a comprehensive plan.

00:08:19For that, it is very important that you engage the provincial government.

00:08:23Obviously, the high courts come under the provincial government.

00:08:26For that, it is very important that you have a threadbare discussion

00:08:30and openly call the bars, call the civil society.

00:08:34Now, you call a person from a bar and talk to him.

00:08:37You talk to a person from a legal fraternity.

00:08:39They are saying that what kind of constitutional amendment is this

00:08:43that no one knows about it yet?

00:08:45Whatever work you have to do, at least bring it to the forefront.

00:08:49Discuss it with the relevant departments,

00:08:53especially the bar councils.

00:08:55It is very important to get their feedback.

00:08:57Therefore, you are absolutely right that the objective in Pakistan is something else.

00:09:04Obviously, something else is being said.

00:09:06Then, obviously, all the power politics are involved.

00:09:10Now, I think one good thing is happening

00:09:13that the youth of Pakistan is realizing

00:09:18that if Pakistan is present at this place after 76 years,

00:09:23then what is the reason for that?

00:09:25Our fundamental issues, the issues of the fundamental governance,

00:09:29the fundamental issues of the fundamental democracy of Pakistan,

00:09:32no one has any attention towards them.

00:09:34The focus is on how my government will be established,

00:09:37how my government will be strong,

00:09:40and how I will secure the upcoming elections.

00:09:44Mr. Ghumman, there is one more factor in this.

00:09:46I was saying one more thing,

00:09:47that all the debate that is taking place today,

00:09:49we are talking to each other,

00:09:50the constitutional amendments are yet to be tabled.

00:09:52After that, there will be a meeting,

00:09:53there will be a discussion, it will be done.

00:09:55But even after that, in the Supreme Court,

00:09:58obviously, the Supreme Court can see this

00:10:00because a lot of things will be at stake.

00:10:02Don't you think that from there too,

00:10:04the interpretation of this matter can be furthered?

00:10:08Yes, obviously, the constitution of Pakistan,

00:10:10the constitution of India,

00:10:13the interpretation of the constitution,

00:10:17the constitution has given it to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

00:10:20And if there is any misunderstanding,

00:10:22then the Supreme Court of Pakistan will interpret it.

00:10:25As I was saying a little while ago,

00:10:27that if, for example, tomorrow's jurisdiction,

00:10:29which the Supreme Court has given to the eight member banks,

00:10:32if we keep that in view,

00:10:34then today, if some people, some free people, vote,

00:10:37the PTA people say that we have their affidavits,

00:10:40then what will be their vote count?

00:10:42If there is a vote count,

00:10:43then will their membership end or not?

00:10:46Now, there are more than one issue,

00:10:50and again, what I understand a little,

00:10:53see, I am giving examples again and again,

00:10:55when the 18th amendment was adopted in 2010,

00:10:58at that time, Raza Rabbani Sahib,

00:11:00there was a committee of 29 members,

00:11:02he led it,

00:11:03and for months,

00:11:04there were many meetings on each issue,

00:11:08for hours, there was a discussion on it,

00:11:10deliberation,

00:11:11and then it used to go to the next issue.

00:11:16Raza, it is very important,

00:11:18that whatever work you want to do,

00:11:20the government wants to do,

00:11:21all the suggestions,

00:11:23you bring them out in the open,

00:11:26and then there used to be discussions,

00:11:28debates,

00:11:29even media houses used to sit with them and discuss,

00:11:31but now,

00:11:32nothing has happened,

00:11:33even you must be looking for that Musawwida,

00:11:35anyway,

00:11:36Azhar Mishwani,

00:11:37Zahid is with us,

00:11:38and Azhar Farooq is with us,

00:11:39let's talk to them,

00:11:40Azhar Mishwani,

00:11:41okay,

00:11:42let's talk to Zahid Mishwani,

00:11:43Zahid,

00:11:44tell us,

00:11:45what is the situation now,

00:11:46who is around Maulana's house,

00:11:47who is inside,

00:11:48who is waiting in the cars outside,

00:11:50and the big meeting,

00:11:51the former Prime Minister,

00:11:52the Deputy Prime Minister,

00:11:53what news do you have about that?

00:11:56We are waiting for the PTI delegation to come out of Maulana's house,

00:12:02it is a long meeting between the PTI,

00:12:04Maulana Fazerman,

00:12:05and the JUI,

00:12:06which is going on with them right now,

00:12:08and they have taken an oath,

00:12:10that they will convince Maulana Fazerman,

00:12:12not to support the government,

00:12:14because this meeting is going on,

00:12:16Zahid,

00:12:17I have a brief question,

00:12:18the prayers have been performed in congregation,

00:12:20are the prayers not good?

00:12:22Yes,

00:12:23after that,

00:12:24the work is ruined.

00:12:25Zahid,

00:12:26I have a very interesting question,

00:12:27the prayers of the PTI and Maulana Fazerman,

00:12:30this is not their first prayer,

00:12:32before this,

00:12:33when the PTI and Maulana Fazerman were in Urooj,

00:12:35there used to be an atmosphere,

00:12:37so even then,

00:12:38when the atmosphere was good,

00:12:39so two prayers,

00:12:40first,

00:12:41Maulana Fazerman,

00:12:42Maulana Fazerman's third prayer,

00:12:44this is his third prayer here,

00:12:46and the Maghrib prayer,

00:12:47was performed by him,

00:12:48and after that,

00:12:49if you remember,

00:12:50when the United Nations was taking action,

00:12:53even then,

00:12:54Maulana Fazerman,

00:12:55during the prayer,

00:12:56he said,

00:12:57I am your Imam,

00:12:58you should pray for me,

00:12:59but the question you have,

00:13:00regarding the inter-Ameem,

00:13:01the prayers could not be performed,

00:13:04but efforts are being made for that,

00:13:06and the PTI is trying to convince Maulana Fazerman,

00:13:10because this is a very important issue,

00:13:13of the present and future,

00:13:15and if Maulana Fazerman,

00:13:16has accepted this,

00:13:18then according to the PTI,

00:13:19the impact of this inter-Ameem,

00:13:21in the long term,

00:13:23and later,

00:13:24people will have to bear the consequences,

00:13:27and the credit for that,

00:13:29will have to be borne,

00:13:31and that will be taken away.

00:13:32One thing is very interesting,

00:13:33here,

00:13:34here,

00:13:35we are talking about the same,

00:13:37a lot of questions are being raised,

00:13:39what are the demands at this time?

00:13:41What are you asking from the PTI?

00:13:42What can the PTI give?

00:13:43Maximum.

00:13:44Look,

00:13:45look,

00:13:46these things are very clear,

00:13:48and you have asked this question many times,

00:13:50and the answer has also come to the government,

00:13:52and the government has a lot to give.

00:13:54Yes.

00:13:55I will tell you that,

00:13:56even though it is off the record,

00:13:58it is not on the record,

00:13:59it is not clear,

00:14:00but it is being said,

00:14:01that the JUI has received an offer,

00:14:03that they will give them special treatment in the provinces,

00:14:06governorship as well,

00:14:07ministership as well,

00:14:08seats as well,

00:14:09ministries in the center as well,

00:14:103 to 5 ministries,

00:14:11a lot of divisions,

00:14:12and a lot of such packages,

00:14:14that when Mian Nawaz Sharif,

00:14:15Shahbaz Sharif,

00:14:16and Ishaq Dar will come,

00:14:17then it is possible,

00:14:18that there can be more expansion in this package,

00:14:20but the real thing is,

00:14:21that this legalization,

00:14:22it is not because,

00:14:23that if we get benefits temporarily,

00:14:25then a big burden will be put on the neck of the nation,

00:14:28no,

00:14:29all these things will have to be seen,

00:14:31and it was being said,

00:14:32that if it is in national interest,

00:14:33we will support it,

00:14:34there are a lot of organizations,

00:14:36which the PTA accepts,

00:14:37the JUI has accepted,

00:14:38but there are a lot of organizations,

00:14:40on which they are dependent.

00:14:42Ali Zafar has come with us,

00:14:43let's talk to him,

00:14:44Ali Zafar,

00:14:45thank you very much for your time,

00:14:46we are certainly trying to convince Maulana Fazlur Rehman,

00:14:49we were also asking Zahid,

00:14:51Maulana,

00:14:52the meetings that are taking place with you,

00:14:54or the ones that you are trying to convince,

00:14:56what is on the table,

00:14:57what can you offer,

00:14:58what are you offering,

00:14:59why would Maulana be coming with you,

00:15:01if he comes?

00:15:03See,

00:15:04this is actually a battle of principles and power,

00:15:08but there are very open talks in the delegation,

00:15:13there are detailed discussions,

00:15:15as much as I can tell you,

00:15:17the decision has not yet been finalized,

00:15:19from their side,

00:15:20but what we have requested them,

00:15:23is that,

00:15:24in the darkness of the night,

00:15:27the government is trying to present amendments to the constitution,

00:15:36in the darkness of the night,

00:15:38we do not know which amendments are there,

00:15:40and what are they,

00:15:41and ultimately,

00:15:42there will be a loss to time,

00:15:45there will be a loss to life,

00:15:47and ultimately,

00:15:48there will be a loss to our freedom.

00:15:51So,

00:15:52we are telling them,

00:15:53that you are standing with us,

00:15:56and they are trying to understand,

00:15:59the government is trying to meet them,

00:16:02in its own way.

00:16:04Ok,

00:16:05tell me one thing,

00:16:06obviously,

00:16:07the meetings that are taking place,

00:16:08obviously,

00:16:09we are taking the necessary precautions,

00:16:10but since you are also a legal expert,

00:16:11you also look at the legal matters,

00:16:12so,

00:16:13tell me one thing,

00:16:14about these amendments,

00:16:15one is that,

00:16:16their constitution,

00:16:17I don't know,

00:16:18who all have access to it,

00:16:19some things that have come up initially,

00:16:20one is the establishment of a legal court,

00:16:21after that,

00:16:22the appointment of judges,

00:16:23and especially,

00:16:24the appointment of the Chief Justice,

00:16:25on this,

00:16:26they are saying that,

00:16:273-4 names will go,

00:16:285 names will go,

00:16:29within this,

00:16:30do you think that,

00:16:31first of all,

00:16:32like,

00:16:33on a very high level,

00:16:34the appointments are made,

00:16:35on that,

00:16:36there is a lot of political tension,

00:16:37there are deliberations,

00:16:38there is a lot of thinking,

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00:44:10Good.

00:44:29Sir,

00:44:41Sir,

00:44:49Sir,

00:44:54Sir,

00:45:40which you must have seen, buses full of members of PTI were taken to the assemblies

00:45:46and Hamza Shahbaz was made the Chief Minister by getting votes from them

00:45:50When this challenge happened, eventually the Supreme Court decided that not only this is a defection

00:45:54but his vote will also not be counted

00:45:56At this time, it is the law of this country

00:45:58When you don't have enough votes, how can you come and collect it like sheep and goats?

00:46:04Let me assume, Mr. Shahbaz, that if the numbers are completed in any way at this time

00:46:10You cannot assume in any way

00:46:12I am talking about the law

00:46:14Mr. Shahbaz, let me ask the question

00:46:17Can this matter be taken to the Supreme Court for a strike down or a decision?

00:46:22The Supreme Court and Pakistan will still have the right to interpret

00:46:25Yes, there is no doubt about it

00:46:29A lot of lawyers were martyred here in Quetta by sacrificing their lives

00:46:35Do you remember how many lawyers were martyred in Karachi in 2007?

00:46:40Do you remember how many lawyers were martyred here in Pindi?

00:46:44My father got his head beheaded in Lahore with his blood, sweat and tears

00:46:49We have achieved the freedom of the court by giving our blood

00:46:53And we have no personal benefit from the freedom of the court

00:46:57In the courts, people are stopped by our judges every day

00:47:00Our judges take out our cases every day

00:47:02We fought for the freedom of the court for the people

00:47:05And we fought for this country

00:47:07This cannot happen in this constitution

00:47:09A little while ago, Ali Zafar was with us and Rashid Sahib was also with us

00:47:13Basically, this kind of question was put in front of them

00:47:15If we separate these cases at one time

00:47:19Where the legal cases are seen through a new court and a retired judge

00:47:23And the case of Mafade Amma is being separated

00:47:26The burden of the goodwill of the government is being reduced

00:47:29Don't you think that this case should also start from the lower judiciary?

00:47:33This case cannot be solved by the appellate tribunals

00:47:38As you said in your program that this case started from a report

00:47:45Where 80% pendency was highlighted in the lower judiciary

00:47:50So, it is right that the reform should start from the lower judiciary

00:47:55But tell me, you are a journalist

00:47:58In your case, can someone else do the legislation without your permission?

00:48:04Will he have an idea about the problem faced by a journalist?

00:48:07Will he have an idea about how to solve the issues of a journalist?

00:48:13My first question to you was based on this

00:48:16Were the stakeholders trusted?

00:48:19Which means the legal fraternity?

00:48:21It was not taken across Pakistan

00:48:23I have spoken to everyone on the phone

00:48:26No one knows

00:48:27If anyone knows, then they should tell

00:48:29No one knows

00:48:31No wake draft has been given

00:48:33And this will be the first time where even the government members do not know

00:48:37What a wake draft is

00:48:38I am getting to know from you that even Maulana Sahib is still asking for a draft

00:48:44So, what kind of legal fraternity is this?

00:48:46And is this kind of legislation acceptable or not?

00:48:49Mr. Shahbaz, another thing is that this is a very thought about process

00:48:52Mr. Ashtar Hussain was also saying the same

00:48:54This is a reform, a legal reform

00:48:56And especially in which there are such matters

00:48:59And there is a lot of deliberation and need to be understood in it regarding the court

00:49:04If the government goes on this, on getting it approved

00:49:07Or you are saying that there are no numbers, this does not happen

00:49:09You mentioned 2007

00:49:11We are all aware of that movement

00:49:13We saw it with our own eyes

00:49:15So, should we be ready for any movement like Munir-e-Malik Sahib was giving in India?

00:49:20Look, when you remove justice from the hands of justice

00:49:25And make a Supreme Court a government institution

00:49:31In which today's government will get its own justice

00:49:35Then people will come on the streets

00:49:37Lawyers will come on the streets

00:49:39This is a bloodbath on the freedom of the court

00:49:43And the judges are giving very open decisions

00:49:46But they should, I am very surprised

00:49:49That either they see their government going

00:49:52And they have made a last ditch effort

00:49:55That either we destroy everything

00:49:57And make our government

00:49:59Or everything ends and we also end

00:50:02This seems to be some kind of movement

00:50:04Because neither do they have numbers

00:50:06If they forcefully vote

00:50:08Then it will be a stolen vote of some other party

00:50:11In the principle, if we talk about a constitutional court

00:50:16If we are talking about a constitutional court

00:50:19Do you think there is any flaw in it?

00:50:21Let me ask the questions

00:50:24One is that the Supreme Court judges

00:50:30There are thousands of cases filed

00:50:32If we are talking about a constitutional court

00:50:35Because if a constitutional case goes to court

00:50:37Then a full court is formed there

00:50:39A larger bench is also formed

00:50:41Then the deliberation starts on it

00:50:43If a constitutional court is formed

00:50:45With your consultation

00:50:47Will it work parallel to the Supreme Court?

00:50:49What will be the method of its work?

00:50:51Will it suit Pakistan's existing judicial system?

00:50:55Look, there are a lot of issues in Pakistan's judiciary

00:50:59Like the issues of every institution

00:51:01These issues cannot be solved on a phone call

00:51:06On this, we will have to take all kinds of experts from every court

00:51:10And we will have to focus on it

00:51:12How do we solve this problem in the case?

00:51:17If this problem, the way this government

00:51:21Is trying to do it forcefully and illegally

00:51:26If they solve a good problem in this way

00:51:31That will also come under dispute

00:51:33And no one will have a problem with that

00:51:36Therefore, even if there are such amendments

00:51:40They should be done properly

00:51:42Should be done according to the law

00:51:44Legislation itself is a method

00:51:46This is a regular amendment

00:51:48There is also a method of common legislation

00:51:50That it has a process

00:51:52You spend a month, two months, three months

00:51:54And you start going through that process

00:51:56And the speaker has the power to dispense with that process

00:52:00But that power is wrong

00:52:02And if it is used in this way, it will be wrong

00:52:05And it will always be questionable

00:52:07Whether they take the decision in their favor

00:52:10At first it did not seem to happen

00:52:12But even if it happened, all these lawyers would be on the streets

00:52:15We are a free, independent army

00:52:18We have not come here to enslave anyone

00:52:20We have not built a palace here

00:52:22We live in apartments

00:52:24We wake up in the morning and go to the courts

00:52:26For the poor

00:52:28We go to the courts to get justice for the people who have been expelled from the state

00:52:31If they don't want justice

00:52:33If they want to be beaten up in front of the state

00:52:36Then these people will get relief only on the streets

00:52:39Thank you very much, Mr. Shahbaz Khursa

00:52:41He was with us

00:52:43And Adliya Vokala intends to run the movement

00:52:46Mr. Abid Zubairi has also joined us

00:52:48Mr. Abid Zubairi, thank you so much for your time

00:52:50Mr. Shahbaz Khursa was with us

00:52:53And he said that

00:52:55Karachi, Lahore, Quetta, Peshawar

00:52:58There is no information anywhere

00:53:00No one is on board

00:53:02Now if the movement happens in such a situation

00:53:04Purely related to Judiciary

00:53:06Then what will be the practical wisdom?

00:53:08What are the lawyers going to do?

00:53:10In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate

00:53:12Look, Mr. Shahbaz Khursa can tell more

00:53:15Because he is the Additional Secretary of the Supreme Court

00:53:18But you know that Vokala is also divided into two sects

00:53:23The majority of sects are run by Azam Nazeer Tariq

00:53:28Azam Nazeer Tariq is a law minister himself

00:53:31And he must have made the constitution

00:53:37By the law department and the law ministry

00:53:39So I don't think that Vokala

00:53:43And some associations

00:53:45He will tell you what he is going to do

00:53:47But Azad Vokala

00:53:49He will definitely try

00:53:51Because look

00:53:53This constitutional amendment

00:53:55If this amendment is passed

00:53:57I think that Azad Nazeer Tariq's funeral will take place

00:53:59And you will make two courts

00:54:02The Constitutional Court will be separate

00:54:04His judges will also be made by the Prime Minister himself

00:54:06He will make it

00:54:08These two courts will be Pakistan

00:54:10Or the President of the Court

00:54:12Which we don't know

00:54:15Mr. Zubair, I wanted to know

00:54:17There is a lot of confusion

00:54:19This should be a thought about process

00:54:21Yes, please

00:54:23I want to say

00:54:25One more dangerous thing

00:54:27Which is coming on your channel

00:54:29There will be a panel

00:54:31Five judges

00:54:33The government will have the right

00:54:35To choose a respected judge

00:54:37For the Chief Justice

00:54:39We know who they will choose

00:54:41Because their main goal is to make Justice Mansoor Ali Shah

00:54:43But Mr. Zubair, the question here is

00:54:45Will it be the power of the government?

00:54:47You will have to see

00:54:49In the amendment

00:54:51Will they choose five judges from the Judicial Commission?

00:54:53Because the Judicial Commission will not do it by itself

00:54:55Four or five judges are members of the Judicial Commission

00:54:57If they are being elected

00:54:59How will they elect themselves?

00:55:01You will have to see

00:55:03Article 165

00:55:05What amendment are they bringing in?

00:55:07Will they change clause 3?

00:55:09That the Senior Judge will not be the Chief Justice

00:55:11There will be a panel

00:55:13How will the panel choose five judges?

00:55:15If it is the choice of the Prime Minister

00:55:17It is a very good thing

00:55:19In the sense that

00:55:21The executive will have total control

00:55:23On Judiciary appointments

00:55:25Mr. Zubair, there is one more thing

00:55:27Judiciary was a single institution

00:55:29In which you knew automatically

00:55:31Because of the seniority law

00:55:33That the senior judge will be the Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:55:35So there was no political tension on it

00:55:37There was an idea that he will be the Chief Justice

00:55:39There was an idea that he will be the Chief Justice

00:55:41In other cases, you were told

00:55:43That there used to be a lot of disputes

00:55:45Do you think that if this happens

00:55:47Will this be easier for the government?

00:55:49Or will this further complicate the things?

00:55:51I think

00:55:53In the history of Pakistan

00:55:55As far as I know

00:55:57The Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:55:59Was not made the Senior Judge

00:56:01It happened before that

00:56:03But in 1994

00:56:05Justice Sajjad Ali Shah

00:56:07He was the Chief Justice

00:56:09There was a big problem in the court

00:56:11There was an attack

00:56:13In the Supreme Court

00:56:15It was decided that the Senior Judge should be the Chief Justice

00:56:17After that

00:56:19In 2010, 2018, 2019

00:56:21It was decided that the Senior Judge should be the Chief Justice

00:56:23So that this problem can be solved

00:56:25The Senior Judge will be the Chief Justice

00:56:27Whether he comes for 10 days or 2 months

00:56:29He will be the Chief Justice and he will retire

00:56:31You knew this

00:56:33There is no such rule in the High Court

00:56:35That the Senior Judge should not be the Chief Justice

00:56:37But recently you saw that in Lahore High Court

00:56:39The Senior Judge was not made the Chief Justice

00:56:41So if these things start like this

00:56:43That you

00:56:45Think that a judge of 10th rank

00:56:47Will be the Chief Justice

00:56:49Then

00:56:51Out of the 5 judges of the Supreme Court

00:56:53You know which judge will decide for you

00:56:55Make him the Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:56:57I think this is a very bad way

00:56:59It will be complicated

00:57:01Mr. Zubairi

00:57:03Mr. Zubairi

00:57:05Let's discuss the information

00:57:07That is available

00:57:09The cases related to the High Court

00:57:11Are of 181, 184, 185 and 186

00:57:13The case of acting judges in 181

00:57:15What does it say

00:57:17Please educate us about this

00:57:19If the government is going to amend

00:57:21Based on the assumption

00:57:23What will be the changes

00:57:25That will go in its favor in the current situation

00:57:27The case of acting judges in 181

00:57:29The acting judge

00:57:31The acting judge

00:57:33The acting judge

00:57:35The acting judge

00:57:37The acting judge

00:57:39The acting judge

00:57:41The acting judge

00:57:43The acting judge

00:57:45The acting judge

00:57:47The acting judge

00:57:49The acting judge

00:57:51The acting judge

00:57:53The acting judge

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00:57:57The acting judge

00:57:59The acting judge

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00:58:03The acting judge

00:58:05The acting judge

00:58:07The acting judge

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Constitutional Amendment | Special Transmission | ARY News | 15th September 2024

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