"Offering Maulana Sahib to Mediate Between Both Parties" Kamran Murtaza
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00:00Is there any possibility that the government can harm you and you don't become a part of the Grand Opposition Alliance?
00:10It is a matter of principle that since the elections did not go well, or at least from our point of view,
00:20then we will not sit with this government.
00:25As far as the relations are concerned, both the Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mian Shahbaz Sharif have personal and good relations.
00:36There is a relationship of respect between them and between us as well.
00:40We have also reconciled a relationship of respect with Imran Khan.
00:51There is also a working relationship. We do not say anything against them.
00:58In fact, when we feel that something is wrong with them, we support them.
01:06Despite the fact that we are not a part of any alliance with them.
01:11We are moving forward in a good environment.
01:16Pakistan's politics should move forward.
01:20I am sorry I am cutting you short.
01:22But you have good relations on both sides.
01:24Especially you have become better than PTI.
01:26This is a golden opportunity to bridge the gap between the opposition and the government.
01:32So if you sit on any side, whether it is the side of the government or the opposition,
01:36then the matter of bridging will be done on the side.
01:40Isn't it better for Pakistan to play that role?
01:44If both parties want, then all parties can be called and they can host it.
01:50This is my suggestion.
01:52If both sides want, and if there is a way of respect in it,
01:58in which there is good for Pakistan and some matters go ahead,
02:03then I can give this suggestion from my side.
02:06And if the parties want, then we will not have any objection.
02:10Maulana Sahib will host it.
02:12And if we come close to it, then Pakistan will have to move forward.
02:16Pakistan will not always have one election,
02:20and then half of the people will say that the election was right,
02:23and half of the people will say that the election was wrong.
02:25We have to decide a mechanism,
02:28we have to decide a method according to which the matter will be settled.
02:31So Mr. Kamran, you are committing this on air,
02:33that you will give this suggestion to Maulana Sahib
02:35that you try to make both parties sit.
02:38Without Maulana Sahib's permission,
02:43I am offering that he can make both parties sit,
02:48and he has the capacity.
02:50And if this happens, if both parties want,
02:54then it will be good for Pakistan,
02:57but for this, the rules of the game will have to be decided.
03:02So in such a situation, Maulana Sahib can play a role.
03:05You have said it very eloquently.
03:07But Mr. Senator, for that, if you sit with the Grand Opposition,
03:12or with the government,
03:14won't that somehow become a hurdle in your role?
03:18Look, for the next 10-15 days, we are not a part of the Grand Opposition.
03:25Maulana Karni will leave the day after tomorrow.
03:27He has a tour of foreign countries and he is old.
03:30So for the next 15 days, my offer is valid.
03:33After that, I will leave.
03:35Okay, for the next 15 days, your offer is valid.
03:37Point noted, at least.
03:38Mr. Umair Niazi, for the next 15 days,
03:40are you ready to take it up?
03:42Or is it still the same thing that I have explained,
03:44I mean PTI,
03:46that if we want to talk, we have to talk to the army.
03:48We have to give a message, but we have to talk to the army.
03:52Yes, where did this come from?
03:55Basically, look,
03:56the parliament is the arena for politicians,
03:59whether they fight in it,
04:00whether they accuse each other,
04:02but you are not coming to the parliament.
04:04Do you believe in the parliament?
04:06No, no, we are coming to the parliament.
04:07There is no business in the parliament.
04:09It is a matter of understanding.
04:11Look, if there is a policy related to terrorism in the parliament,
04:15it has been discussed.
04:16Interior ministers do not like to come to the parliament.
04:18When there was a national security meeting,
04:20Mr. Imran Khan did not go as the Prime Minister.
04:23Everyone's complaint will remain there.
04:25But give me an answer to this.
04:27One minute.
04:28Give me an answer to this, Mr. Bairasi.
04:30The offer that Mr. Kamran Murtaza has just given,
04:33that Mr. Maulana has the capability
04:35to sit with both of you.
04:37Are you ready to take it up or not?
04:41Look, the political forces should sit.
04:43There is no other way.
04:44You don't want to sit? Are you ready to sit or not?
04:47No, look, this decision will be made by the party.
04:49What I am talking about overall is
04:51that when you sit with a preconceived mind
04:54that we have to sit for an eye wash,
04:57as it happened in the previous round.
04:59There were three rounds.
05:01It was insisted again and again
05:03that these are not your demands.
05:05You are basically asking for something else.
05:07When it is given in writing,
05:09then there is no answer for seven days.
05:11In fact, there is a verbal confusion
05:13that you have made us wait for four days.
05:15How can it be on 9th May?
05:17We have also waited for 47 days.
05:19No, seven days had passed.
05:21Then we kept waiting indefinitely.
05:23Have they made a commission so far?
05:25The government can make a commission at any time.
05:27Is it bound by the opinion of the opposition?
05:29Today, it is not their responsibility
05:31to fully probe the incidents of 9th May
05:33that there is no conspiracy from any side.
05:35On 26th November...
05:37Well, this is your matter.
05:39It is right now your word
05:41against the government's word.
05:43This is right now your word
05:45against the government's word.
05:47It still has to be proven.
05:49I will come back to you.
05:51Let me come back to you on this.
05:53Minister Aqeel,
05:55are you ready to take up
05:57the offer that Kamran Murtaza
05:59is giving at this time?
06:01The clock is ticking right now.
06:03Are you ready to take it up?
06:05Will you sit with the PTI
06:07with a clear heart
06:09or will you be ready to sit
06:11with the preconceived notion
06:13that Umair Niazi is complaining about?
06:15Look, Anika Sahiba,
06:17we have no objection in sitting.
06:19You don't want to sit, right?
06:21No one has come from the other side.
06:23So, are we sitting alone?
06:25You are sitting here.
06:27Talk about sitting with a clear heart.
06:29No, we have a clear heart.
06:31We said that we want to convince.
06:33My brother, Barrister Umair Niazi
06:35also said that within 7 days...
06:37So, 7 working days,
06:39you said in the joint announcement
06:41that we will give an answer in 7 working days
06:43and then meet in the meeting.
06:45That is why 7 working days were set.
06:47You also put 42 days
06:49I can say this to you.
06:51You have the power. You wait.
06:53It is a great offer by Kamran Murtaza.
06:55And it is a very good thing.
06:57It will prove beneficial
06:59to end the political polarization.
07:01I think that
07:03the role of the bridge
07:05can be played by Maulana.
07:07That is why, in my opinion,
07:09I am not a fan of the past.
07:11I don't think that
07:13Maulana will be a part
07:15of any Grand Opposition Alliance.
07:17And the reason for that is
07:19that the situation of
07:21bridging the gap
07:23that you said
07:25to end the polarization
07:27from both sides
07:29and not from our side.
07:31Polarization is coming
07:33from PTI.
07:35So, I think that Maulana
07:37can play a critical role
07:39under his
07:41mentorship.
07:43Under his leadership.
07:45We don't have any issue.
07:47But provided,
07:49and it should be provided,
07:51provided that
07:53he will remove
07:55the direction of his cannons
07:57from the institutions.
07:59You will have to wait for that.
08:01But Kamran, very soon,
08:03before you leave,
08:05tell me this,
08:07I don't think that
08:09Maulana will be a part
08:11of the Grand Opposition Alliance.
08:13No, don't take this
08:15for granted.
08:17In that,
08:19we are united
08:21in many issues.
08:23In that,
08:25what should be the way
08:27of struggle?
08:29Can we move together or not?
08:31Can our workers come together
08:33or not?
08:35In our opinion,
08:37these are the issues.
08:39If it can be a bridge
08:41or not,
08:43then,
08:45God forbid,
08:47if we try to move together
08:49and fail, then it is a very bad thing.