Deep Lecture #1 2025年3月29日
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00:00Long time no see.
00:02Long time no see.
00:03It's been 3 or 4 years.
00:04Yes, exactly.
00:05It's been 3 or 4 years.
00:06Wow, you remember me.
00:07Of course, of course.
00:09From FOD.
00:10Yes, yes.
00:11I used to work at a company.
00:13Thank you so much for that interview.
00:15This time, we're going to pick up a certain culture
00:19and learn the depth of that culture from an expert.
00:22Yes.
00:31When did you start listening to hip-hop?
00:34I started listening to hip-hop when I was in Tokyo
00:38and I was looking for a dream job.
00:43Norikiyo-san, Shida-san, Hanya-san, Macho-san, Anarchy-san.
00:49I've been listening to a lot of hip-hop since then.
00:52So you started listening to hip-hop after you left Tokyo?
00:57Yes, that's right.
00:59It's amazing that you've been starring in Shida-san's movie since then.
01:03Shida-san, right?
01:05Yes, Shida-san.
01:07I starred in a movie called Hanatame.
01:11I was under a lot of pressure.
01:13I'm sure you were.
01:15Shida-san is a strange person.
01:19He's an artist.
01:21He asked me what kind of music I was listening to.
01:25Shida-san, I'm so sorry.
01:27I like lip slime.
01:29He said, that's good.
01:31That's good.
01:33I started to like it even more.
01:35I see.
01:37It was really cool.
01:39What kind of people did you meet?
01:41My mother...
01:45What?
01:46No, not my mother.
01:48I used to like my mother a lot when I was sold out.
01:54I can't imitate it.
01:56I can't.
01:58Are you sold out?
01:59I used to like my mother a lot.
02:01I learned that there was something called rap when I was in elementary school.
02:05Since then, I haven't touched it much.
02:07I also left Tokyo.
02:09What?
02:11I don't know why.
02:13Did you meet a bad guy?
02:15No, no, no.
02:16I was doing hip-hop dance.
02:18I was doing hip-hop dance.
02:20Really?
02:21Yes, I was doing this kind of dance.
02:23That's good.
02:25I knew it as a culture, but I left Tokyo to listen to it properly.
02:30I was in the second half of college.
02:32I see.
02:34This is the collective studio.
02:36Collective studio?
02:37Are you collecting something?
02:38Yes.
02:39The collection viewing of art collectors is held regularly.
02:43This time, the collection of Yu Kimoto, the director of the collective studio, is on display.
02:49I see.
02:50It's going to change.
02:52Yes.
02:53I'm going to change the collection of collectors from time to time.
02:58So?
02:59I'm going to start it right away.
03:00There are people who will give a lecture this time.
03:04Can you come?
03:05I'm sorry I can't come.
03:07I'm so glad.
03:08It's difficult.
03:09I heard about it in advance.
03:11I see.
03:12Do you know Tsuya-chan?
03:15Tsuya-chan?
03:16I see.
03:17It's like muscle.
03:18It's like muscle.
03:19I'm not sure if I'm a senior or junior.
03:22Is there a pattern of Tsuya-chan?
03:25I'm writing a book about hip-hop, rap music, music, and culture.
03:31You're writing a book.
03:33I see.
03:34It's a book of criticism of rap music.
03:36Criticism.
03:37We're going to show you what you've put together.
03:40I'm going to give a lecture.
03:43I'm going to give a lecture and talk about my feelings for hip-hop and my favorite rappers.
03:51I see.
03:52It's like a program.
03:53I see.
03:54It's the first time.
03:55Yes.
04:00I'm Tsuya-chan, a writer.
04:02I usually do research and write about music and the cultural field.
04:07It's not just about music, but it's also about social phenomena.
04:12I usually write a lot of things in terms of research and analysis as part of the cultural field.
04:20Among them, I have several books on hip-hop and rap music.
04:27I decided to do rap.
04:29I decided to do rap.
04:32I'm writing a book called Speed Vibes Punchline.
04:38By the way, I decided to do rap.
04:41I decided to do rap.
04:43It's a book that analyzes and introduces female rappers who were in Japan a lot.
04:50I've been interviewing various rappers in Japan and abroad.
04:56Today, I'm going to talk about the diversity of rap.
05:05Hip-hop is a culture that was born in New York, USA in the 1970s.
05:11In fact, hip-hop consists of several elements.
05:15Rap, breakdance, graffiti, and DJ are the four elements that make up the culture.
05:23It is very popular all over the world.
05:26Among them, rap is a style that is close to spoken language.
05:30By stepping on the rhyme, you can create a unique rhythm.
05:34It has been used in various music such as pop, rock, and pop songs.
05:40It has been used in various music such as pop, rock, and pop songs.
05:49It has been used in various music such as pop, rock, and pop songs.
05:55I'd like to explain how rap has developed in Japan, including J-pop.
06:11For example, the idol group YOASOBI.
06:16In fact, rap is also used in this song.
06:40In fact, rap is also used in this song.
06:45In fact, rap is also used in this song.
06:53As you can see, it's a song that breaks the rhythm.
07:00I think this is an example of how rap is essential for J-pop and pop music.
07:09Now, let's learn about the diversity of rap while introducing a lot of songs.
07:20YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:23YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:32YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:35YOASOBI is not a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:41YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:43YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
07:55YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:12YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:18YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:28YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:38YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:48YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
08:58YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:08YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:18YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:28YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:38YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:48YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
09:58YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:08YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:18YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:28YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:38YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:48YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
10:58YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:08YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:18YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:28YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:38YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:48YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
11:58YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
12:08YOASOBI is a representative idol of hip-hop.
12:18PUCCI MORI's 1,2,3 is a new group of three members of Morning Musume.
12:28PUCCI MORI's 1,2,3 is a new group of three members of Morning Musume.
12:38PUCCI MORI's 1,2,3 is a new group of three members of Morning Musume.
12:48PUCCI MORI's 1,2,3 is a new group of three members of Morning Musume.
12:58For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
13:08For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
13:18For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
13:26For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
13:48For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
13:58For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:08For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:18For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:28For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:36For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:44For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
14:52For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
15:00For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
15:08For example, M-Flow, Harukari, and Benny K.
15:16He was working since he was a kid.
15:19He was working since he was a kid.
15:24He was working since he was a kid.
15:27He was working since he was a kid.
15:32He was working since he was a kid.
15:37He was working since he was a kid.
15:42He was working since he was a kid.
15:47He was working since he was a kid.
15:52He was working since he was a kid.
15:57He was working since he was a kid.
16:02He was working since he was a kid.
16:07He was working since he was a kid.
16:10I'm going to imitate him.
16:14I bought all the CDs, Walkman, M-DVD, MP3, and iPod.
16:22I bought all the CDs, Walkman, M-DVD, MP3, and iPod.
16:23I bought all the CDs, Walkman, M-DVD, MP3, and iPod.
16:24Don't you have a cassette player?
16:26I have a cassette player.
16:27You don't?
16:28I don't.
16:30A cassette player?
16:34He said he had one.
16:36We are the generation who listen to everything.
16:39We were born in the early 90s.
16:41It's difficult to mix music with people you like.
16:48It was a time when there were a lot of barriers between underground and overground.
16:56But underground rap was able to be overground.
17:00It was a time when people started to know what kind of expression there was.
17:05It's interesting.
17:13Since the 2000s, more and more rap has been incorporated into J-pop.
17:19At the same time, the number of singers and female rappers has increased.
17:26In fact, female rappers have been active in the hip-hop community since the 1990s.
17:35HAKK is said to be the origin of female rappers.
17:40She is the only female rapper to participate in the legendary hip-hop event, Sanpin Camp, which was held in 1996.
17:56I don't know why, baby.
18:00In the 2000s, more and more female rappers, such as Komachi and Dumi, became active.
18:30In particular, Komachi released a symbolic song called B-Girlism.
18:37This song is an answer song to the song B-Boyism released by Lime Star.
18:44It is a song that proudly declares that even women can reproduce hip-hop.
18:59After that, in the 2010s, the number of female rappers increased.
19:17Among them, the first one that attracted a lot of attention was AWITCH, which repeatedly released high-quality works.
19:25At first, AWITCH was active as a member of YENTOWN, a collective based in Tokyo.
19:35However, for the first time as a female rapper, she appeared in a one-man performance at the Nihon Budokai.
19:42In addition, she collaborated with female rappers and made works together.
19:49Among them, the representative song was BAD BITCH BIGAKU, which AWITCH, Nene, Lana, and Mari made together.
19:59This song further evolved the B-Girlism song that Komachi sang earlier.
20:08It is a song that proudly declares that even women can reproduce hip-hop.
20:18AWITCH collaborated with various female rappers and released songs at the same time as BAD BITCH.
20:43At the same time, there were a lot of collaborations between female rappers.
20:51For example, Nene and L-Teresa's Banana Boat.
20:55A new era of female rappers collaborating with each other and releasing various songs.
21:22In addition, the collaboration between female rappers is not only on the street.
21:28There are also movements on the Internet where female rappers collaborate with each other.
21:33For example, ZOOM GALS.
21:35ZOOM GALS is a group of six female rappers who collaborated with each other on social media during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.
21:51ZOOM GALS is a group of six female rappers who used the Zoom screen to express their excitement for society.
22:02In addition, Dr. ANON is also very popular among young people.
22:08Dr. ANON, formed by three rappers, Haku, Konika, and Ego, was asked by many young people on social media.
22:24Dr. ANON is also a representative example of the collaboration between female rappers who have been active during the COVID-19 pandemic.
22:32In addition, there is a program called RAP STAR BIRTH, which is a program that creates the excitement of hip-hop these days.
22:44Among them, the number of female rappers is increasing year by year.
22:49Parallel, which was formed by DEEZA and NANA, is currently viral on TikTok.
23:02There are many situations in which teenagers use TikTok to sing Parallel.
23:14I think it's a good example of a new situation in which teenagers use TikTok to sing Parallel.
23:30There are a lot of things that I like about featuring.
23:34It's the first time I've heard of it, and I'm really into it.
23:40Recently, I've been listening to Eden-kun's song.
23:42I really like that.
23:44Haya!
23:46That's right.
23:48I was surprised to hear that Eden-kun was also a member of the Nagoya Paisen.
23:50I was like, what?
23:52I'm from Nagoya, so I'm a Paisen.
23:54Eden-kun is from Chiba.
23:56I'm from Nagoya, so I'm a Paisen.
23:58Yellow Bucks is from Nagoya.
24:02I'm a representative of Nagoya.
24:05I was surprised to hear that Eden-kun was also a member of the Nagoya Paisen.
24:08I've been thinking about that.
24:10What is it?
24:12NeNe's song is a collaboration with Aiichi.
24:14It's a song called Poison.
24:16It's really cool.
24:18I've been listening to Yuru Fua Gang's songs.
24:22I really like that.
24:24Do you listen to female rappers' songs?
24:27I don't listen to it because it's a girl or a guy.
24:30That's right.
24:32I listen to Aiichi's songs.
24:34I worked with Anarchy.
24:37And with Ray.
24:40I also like Nana-chan.
24:45She was in the Rap Star.
24:47She was in the narration.
24:49Yes, I was.
24:51I also like Nana-chan.
24:53I'm not asking because she's a woman,
24:56but I really like A-1.
24:59I went to the Budokan alone.
25:02Please invite me.
25:04I want to go with you.
25:07I was really looking forward to it.
25:11I was waiting in line.
25:13Two guys in front of me picked me up.
25:16I said, are you alone?
25:18I said, let's exchange Instagram.
25:20We exchanged Instagram.
25:23I was surprised.
25:25I said, I picked up a 30-year-old woman.
25:29She's a beauty.
25:32She's like A-1.
25:34She's good.
25:36A-1's motherhood.
25:39Motherhood?
25:40Isn't it overflowing?
25:42A motherhood that embraces everything.
25:44I see.
25:45Love?
25:46I don't feel that.
25:48Really?
25:49I think it's cool to be a king
25:53with a trembling hand.
25:56I see.
25:58Before I go to work,
26:00especially when I'm under a lot of pressure,
26:03I always listen to A-1's song.
26:06I feel like I'm going to be a legend.
26:11That's great.
26:13It's hot.
26:16It's really good.
26:17I see.
26:19It's great to be empowered.
26:22In the 2020s,
26:24not only in the hip-hop community,
26:26but also in other places,
26:28the culture of rap has expanded.
26:31It's a situation where
26:33rap has spread
26:35because of the genre.
26:37For example,
26:39rap is now spreading to idols.
26:43As an idol,
26:45I want to spread rap.
26:47Now, rap is spreading.
26:50There is a group called
26:52DIRICAL SCHOOL
26:53that has adopted rap as an idol.
26:55It is an idol group
26:57that represents the evolution of
26:59rap as a mixed group
27:01with men and women
27:03in a group with only women.
27:05It is a group that represents
27:07the evolution of
27:09rap as a mixed group.
27:17I love you.
27:19Wherever you are.
27:21Twist and turn,
27:22flip and blow,
27:23I'm here now.
27:25No matter where you are,
27:27I'm always laughing.
27:30As for the idol group,
27:33the 7 members are
27:35a dance and vocal group
27:37that is active worldwide.
27:39I can't miss XG.
27:43XG has very high skills
27:45and has a total view of the world
27:47including visuals.
27:49By expressing this,
27:51I have received a lot of instructions
27:53from all over the world.
28:09In addition,
28:11rap is also a genre
28:13that has spread
28:15to the area of
28:17hip-hop and
28:19K-pop.
28:21For example,
28:23the representative example
28:25is Peanuts-kun.
28:27Peanuts-kun
28:29originally started
28:31as the main character
28:33of the self-produced
28:35short anime
28:37called Peanuts-kun
28:39who wants to be fashionable.
28:41The magic of the punch is yellow.
28:43Squeeze, yeah.
28:45Ice cream.
28:47I'm writing a lyric at midnight.
28:49I don't want to be trusted
28:51by the shrine on the top of the tofu.
28:53I'm retiring for the sake of entertainment again.
28:55I'm so busy.
28:57I don't want to be told anything honestly.
28:59Interview articles are dug up.
29:01Don't pretend you understand, bitches.
29:03Take a tour.
29:05This is a living salon.
29:07In that way,
29:09the hip-hop and rap culture
29:11that started from the street
29:13is now spreading
29:15on the Internet.
29:17The wall between the street
29:19and the Internet
29:21is disappearing.
29:23It's an interesting situation.
29:25In addition,
29:27there are also
29:29newcomers
29:31who rap using
29:33vocaloids.
29:35In the first place,
29:37the trend of using effects
29:39to rap
29:41is very exciting.
29:43With such background,
29:45Hatsune Miku
29:47and the tendency
29:49to rap
29:51to vocaloids
29:53is naturally
29:55accepted.
29:57As a representative producer,
29:59Yanagami Yuki
30:01will give an interview.
30:03Yanagami Yuki is a musician
30:05who uses vocaloids a lot.
30:07Among them,
30:09he is a popular rapper
30:11who uses Hatsune Miku
30:13and has received
30:15a lot of support
30:17from many listeners
30:19as a cyber-cute girl.
30:21In addition,
30:23there is also a situation
30:25where rappers collaborate
30:27with Hatsune Miku.
30:29For example,
30:31Haruko Tajima
30:33and others.
30:57Recently,
30:59various rappers
31:01are trying to create
31:03a rap rhythm
31:05with vocaloids.
31:07Among them,
31:09there are many songs
31:11where you can hear
31:13an interesting rhythm
31:15that humans
31:17can never reproduce.
31:19I see.
31:21Rap is diversified.
31:23Yes.
31:25It's an amazing era
31:27when vocaloids came out.
31:29Peanuts was pretty good.
31:31He was good.
31:33He is a good rapper.
31:35I laughed because he was good.
31:37I thought he was good.
31:39For example,
31:41in Hollywood,
31:43I remember that
31:45actors stood up
31:47and did various strikes
31:49to get jobs from AIs.
31:51Do you think
31:53your job can be changed
31:55by AI technology?
31:57I think it can be changed
31:59by anyone.
32:01Really?
32:03I think it can be changed by anyone.
32:05For example,
32:07if I take a photo
32:09of myself today,
32:11I can take a photo
32:13of my height,
32:15height,
32:17height,
32:19height,
32:21height,
32:23height,
32:25I can bring out the best part
32:27and make the best movie.
32:29So I think
32:31that's the problem
32:33we have in Hollywood.
32:35What do you think
32:37about announcer industry?
32:39For example,
32:41I'm already doing
32:43reading news with AI sound
32:45in NHK.
32:47I can't stop it.
32:49It has to be mine.
32:51That's my job.
32:53I think it's important for AI to be able to do things that humans can't do.
33:03I think it's important for AI to be able to do things that humans can't do.
33:13I think it's important for AI to be able to do things that humans can't do.
33:24For example, if the staff at the site has a 4K, 8K, or 3D camera,
33:32and the lighting is LED and you can change the color right away,
33:37how long are we going to be able to memorize the lines?
33:40It's like an ankipan.
33:42How long are we going to have to read the script,
33:46put on the earplugs, and do the rehearsal,
33:49and do it like a movie star?
33:52It's never going to change.
33:54I think the acting industry is a little slow.
33:58I think there's a future where we can put a chip in our mouths and make AI say things.
34:07I think it's a good idea.
34:10I'm afraid to say this as a rival or a goal,
34:14but I don't know about other actors,
34:22but I think anime is amazing.
34:26Especially in Japan,
34:28I want people to realize that not only anime, but also live-action movies are good.
34:37I hope there will be more moments like that.
34:43To be honest, I watch a lot of anime, too.
34:48What is the future of rap music?
34:53As rap music expands and gains citizenship,
34:57there is a tendency for rap music to go beyond the scope of music
35:01and spread to other genres of art other than music.
35:08It's like a rap that doesn't stop at music.
35:11It's like a rap that doesn't stop at music.
35:16For example, there are more and more situations where comedians, including manzai artists, rap.
35:24There are also situations where comedians participate in rap battles and win.
35:33In the first place, I think that manzai artists and rappers have very similar characteristics in terms of their ability to speak.
35:44Among them, the symbol of the release of rap music by comedians is Rando's Saga.
36:15Rap music is also included in the field of theater.
36:19For example, NUTOMIC, a theater group, has just performed a work that got a hint from rap music,
36:25an adventure that lasts forever.
36:30NUTOMIC introduced a story like rap music to the actor's lines.
36:36While playing an actual musical instrument on stage,
36:40a play is performed in accordance with it.
36:44A unique work that dismantled the boundaries between play and music, speech and rap,
36:52attracted a lot of attention.
37:05There is no judgment.
37:07It's been a long time.
37:09Wait a minute.
37:11Come back.
37:12What kind of flower do you talk about?
37:14Rap diversity is also reflected in movies.
37:19For example, the movie AKA by Yukiko, which will be screened this year,
37:25is a work in which a female elementary school teacher raps and overcomes the doubts and worries of life.
37:33In the first place, there have been several movies based on rap and rappers,
37:40but I don't think there have been any cases where an elementary school teacher raps.
37:46Before we get to the question, let's check what we studied the other day.
37:52Yes.
37:54There was a basic way of thinking of SDGs, right?
37:57Yes.
37:58Do you remember what it was?
38:00Yes.
38:02Mr. Yuno.
38:03Please go home.
38:06My name is MC Summer.
38:08I'm a beginner rapper and a first-time teacher.
38:11I'm afraid of the difference in level.
38:13I don't have confidence every day, as if I'm always living in fear.
38:17I'm always lost.
38:18But when I rap, I'm different from usual.
38:21I can talk about my true intentions here.
38:24I'll leave it here.
38:27I have introduced the flow of the era in which rap has spread to various fields beyond the hip-hop culture.
38:41I think there are two reasons why it has expanded so much.
38:47The first reason is that rap has hidden interesting possibilities as a rhythm.
38:55Various beats and tracks of various genres are common on the Internet.
39:03I feel that rap is an art form that still has potential for self-expression.
39:11The second reason is that you can say what you really want to say.
39:18You can use specific adjectives and express yourself clearly.
39:24You can say straight messages that you can't say in other genres.
39:30I think this is the reason why rap is now supported as a big potential expression among young people.
39:40In this way, rap has spread to various fields.
39:44I hope that we will continue to expand the possibilities of rap to various genres in the future.
39:53How do you feel when you listen to rap music?
39:55When I listen to rap music, I feel good when I hear the sound of people talking, walking, and breathing.
40:10On the contrary, I feel bad when I listen to rap music.
40:13I feel the same way when I watch a performance.
40:16I feel the same way when I watch a comedy show.
40:21I remember the lines, but there is a sound that only I can hear.
40:33Is it a sound that only you can hear?
40:35It depends on the role and the person.
40:40I don't care how I'm seen.
40:43However, when it comes to work, it's the director's job.
40:46So I have to do my best.
40:50When that happens, the sound is quite correct.
40:55For example, people who don't like the sound of crying or laughing are out of tune.
41:02People who don't like the sound of crying or laughing are out of tune.
41:06People who don't like the sound of crying or laughing are out of tune.
41:18I read a book and look for the sound.
41:26Actors have one voice, two faces, and three appearances.
41:32I don't know who said that.
41:34But I heard it from someone.
41:37I'm conscious of that.
41:41But it's just a voice.
41:44On the contrary, it's a voice that doesn't have a habit.
41:52I think so.
41:54I don't know if it's my voice.
41:57But I change my voice according to what I read.
42:02I'll go back to the rapper.
42:05The voice of my favorite rappers is special.
42:15It's as good as a track.
42:18It's in the harmony of the track.
42:22I can tell right away.
42:25He expresses the producer tag with his own voice.
42:30He is a great artist.
42:32I like him very much.
42:34He is on the beat.
42:38He has all the characteristics of that person.
42:43That's hip-hop rap.
42:47That's right.
42:48It's like a weapon.
42:51I think this is rap.
42:53It's like a rule.
42:56But I think it's hip-hop to have something in the process of life.
43:06I've seen a lot of people do that.
43:10It's important who says what.
43:15It's a rap that expresses music in a simple way.
43:20It's very diverse.
43:22But it's hip-hop.
43:25It's a rap that's connected to reality and personality.
43:30It's unique to that person.
43:32It's the same.
43:34We can't talk about it together.
43:37It's a diverse rap that goes back to hip-hop.
43:42I think that's why hip-hop is so popular.
43:45We can't talk about it together.
43:49But I think it's something that works for each other.
43:53That's right.