On CNN, former Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA) spoke about her run for California Governor.
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00:00at a time when Democrats are struggling to find a strategy forward during
00:04President Trump's second term. With me now is former Congresswoman Katie Parter
00:08who is now a candidate for California governor. Thank you so much for being
00:12here with us this morning. All right, here's the bad news. Things not looking
00:16good for President Trump's initial policies, his doge layoffs, his tariffs,
00:20the way he handled Ukraine so far, the way he's just not doing enough about the
00:27economy, all of that is highly unpopular in polling. And yet, Democrats somehow
00:31have no cohesive message that resonates, no sense of togetherness, and no strong
00:36leadership. How is that possible?
00:40We're a Democratic Party, but I can't tell you what I'm doing,
00:44which is stepping up in this moment to talk first and foremost about the need
00:49to bring down the cost of living. And in California, the biggest issue is the cost
00:53of housing, something we haven't seen Democrats or Republicans take much action
00:58on in recent administrations. And so really being able to talk about how the
01:02cost of living is the biggest problem, and it is being made worse by Donald
01:07Trump. So when people say, do you have to stand up to Trump and deal with Trump
01:11and what he's doing, or do you have to bring down the cost of living? The answer
01:15is they are now the same thing, because these tariffs and other policies are
01:19only going to push the economy into a worse place and hit families harder.
01:23Do you blame Gavin Newsom for the cost of living crisis and the homelessness
01:27crisis in California?
01:32Housing has been a challenge for California for decades, and this has always
01:36been a little bit of a boom, boom, bust kind of housing economy.
01:40We do need to make structural changes, including reducing, reforming
01:45how our environmental laws, our bedrock environmental law called the CEQA, is
01:50applied to housing. We need to make it cheaper to build. That means innovating
01:54around the kinds of building materials we use, thinking about how to build
01:57things in ways that are more fireproof, for example. The next governor is going
02:01to have to head on tackle the crisis that we're facing with home insurance,
02:05and I'm ready to do that.
02:07All right. I do want to ask you about this latest CNN polling because you were
02:10a congresswoman and you are still a Democrat, and I know you're running for
02:13California governor now, but we're seeing these polls and it's the lowest
02:17approval rating for Democrats that we have seen in modern history.
02:20Just 29 percent among the American public overall think that the Democrats
02:25are doing well. And this was before Chuck Schumer angered Democrats farther by
02:30helping pass the Republican bill to keep the government open.
02:33Do you think that Democrats as a whole need a change in leadership?
02:37Well, look, I when I I'm running in part because I we're going to have a change
02:41in leadership in California, in Congress, I push several times to try to change
02:46up some of our rules to make sure that we were rotating leaders in and out,
02:50that we were giving those who were new to Congress a voice. I do think that
02:55there is a sort of natural evolutionary process here of electing different
02:59leaders because the world has changed. Right. So I went to college in a world
03:03where student loans were a 10 year problem after you graduated.
03:07There are now lots of people for whom student loans are a lifetime problem
03:11after they graduate. So I do think that because the world has changed,
03:14we need people who have experiences living in the world where our voters
03:18are struggling. So child care now costs more than college in college tuition
03:23in half of all states. If you understand that, if you've tried to pay that bill
03:27like I have, then I think you prioritize, for example, the cost of
03:31child care policy differently. I've said for a long time that the Democrats
03:35need stronger messages, messengers on the economy. And I think what we've seen
03:40sometimes is the Democratic Party be drawn toward messengers about Trump,
03:45people who are anti-Trump. You can and you must be both because, as I said,
03:50Trump's economic policy is a cost of living problem in and of itself. But
03:54that's how we should be talking about Trump. We should be talking about how
03:57is Trump hurting you? How is Trump going to make it impossible for your
04:01small business to thrive? How is Trump going to make your retirement more
04:04difficult? All right. You famously used a whiteboard to explain complex ideas
04:09in very simple ways, and it did catch on with many voters. If you had your
04:14whiteboard today with you, how would you fix the Democratic Party?
04:20Oh, I think I would remind them. I would put a number one up, a great big number
04:24one. That's the only thing I would write on the board. And then I would remind
04:29people that in every single election cycle in my lifetime, and I am 51 years
04:35old, the number one issue is the economy. So we have got to focus on that, and we
04:45have to tie things back to the economy. So even Trump's chaotic kind of social
04:50policies, his attacks on DEI, things like that, those all create economic
04:56upheaval. People lose their jobs. They have to spend time doing nonproductive
05:00work, like changing websites. It's all about the economy, and frankly, it
05:04always has been. You cut out a little bit. You said if you wrote a number one
05:10on your board, there will be a single thing on the whiteboard that you used.
05:14And what would that number one say?
05:16It would be the economy. So I would tell people and remind people that in every
05:21single election for multiple generations, the number one issue has been the
05:25economy. So we have to start looking at the lens of what Trump is doing through
05:30the economy. So even Trump's sort of so-called social issues, like DEI,
05:35attacks on DEI policy, those are extremely economically unproductive.
05:40Former Representative Katie Porter, now former Democratic candidate,
05:45now throwing her hat in. Former California governor. Thank you so much.
05:48Appreciate your time. John?
05:49Well, let's talk a little bit more about the economy. Just moments ago,
05:54the markets opened on Wall Street. Stocks a little bit down for the day.
05:59Actually, the Nasdaq down more than a percent so far. Uncertainty over
06:04President Trump's policies, particularly tariffs, have sparked.