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00:00My grandparents, until the day they died, never met my father.
00:04They went to England. They didn't accept him.
00:06They...
00:17Peace be upon you. Hi, I'm Ujaina Arshad.
00:19And this is 1000 Years Podcast,
00:22where we bring you the issues and themes that have been exposed
00:26in the 1000 Years drama that is exploding right now.
00:30Before my late father got married to me,
00:32didn't he say that I was inferior to him?
00:34If he hadn't picked me up from the club,
00:36I wouldn't have become a KRO.
00:39I...
00:41want to apologize.
00:45I'm sad.
00:57Have you seen it? Of course you want to see it, right?
00:59Okay, okay, okay.
01:00You must be wondering who my guest today is.
01:03The first one.
01:05We're together with the lawyer, or brother of the lawyer,
01:09Hafiz Baharudin.
01:10Lately, we've been hearing a lot about kidnapping cases.
01:14I want to call him Mr. Hafiz.
01:15No, no.
01:16You don't want to?
01:17I don't want to.
01:17Why?
01:18I think...
01:19the title is a bit detached.
01:21Oh, come on.
01:22I prefer to use my real name.
01:24I respect you.
01:25Eh, no, no, no, no. Please, no.
01:26So, Hafiz...
01:27and also...
01:29Zain Saidin.
01:31Hi, guys.
01:33Hi, everyone.
01:34How are you?
01:35Hi, Zain. How are you?
01:36I'm good, thank God.
01:37How are you?
01:38I'm good.
01:39Why are you with me? You're usually with me.
01:40No, no.
01:41Okay, if you look at my guest today,
01:43you must be wondering what topic we're going to talk about today.
01:46Do you know what topic it is?
01:48If you call me a lawyer,
01:49it must be something related to the law.
01:51Really?
01:53I would thought so.
01:55If you want to know,
01:56why don't we watch the scene from the 1000-year-old drama first?
02:00Actually, I'm just an ordinary employee with Mr. Majid.
02:07Just an ordinary employee?
02:10I guess you're B40.
02:13What's wrong with B40, Mama?
02:15Your father?
02:17What does he do?
02:18Business, Datuk.
02:20Oh, business.
02:22What kind of business?
02:24Coconut juice.
02:25What?
02:26My father is in the coconut juice business, Datuk.
02:35What's so funny, Mama?
02:37Nothing.
02:38When Hazrul said that his father is in the business,
02:41I thought it was a construction company or an oil and gas company.
02:47But it turns out that he's just in the coconut juice business.
02:50Hazrul, you don't have to mention it.
02:52It's just a business.
02:54You're so young.
02:57And Hazrul,
02:58if I say that I don't like it,
02:59it means that I don't like it.
03:01So, you don't have to try to win my heart,
03:03or try to seduce me,
03:05or try to seduce me.
03:06I don't care about all that.
03:08Let me be straight with you.
03:10Mama!
03:11Shut up.
03:12If you dare to drink the coconut juice from my feet,
03:15I won't accept you as my daughter-in-law.
03:17Because you're just a daughter of a Buddhist.
03:21I don't care what you say.
03:23Hazrul is not suitable for Iman.
03:25Try me, Iman.
03:27Try me.
03:29I can't continue the conversation.
03:31It's so sad.
03:32Can we go back?
03:33I'm so depressed.
03:35Dear God, what's going on?
03:38The topic that we're going to talk about today...
03:40is something that you can see for yourself.
03:42It's between two stars.
03:45It's been around for a long time.
03:47It's 2025 now.
03:49It's still around.
03:50It's still around?
03:51It's still around.
03:52Let's start with your general opinion.
03:54Do you think it's still around?
03:55Of course.
03:56I think it's a defensive mechanism.
03:59I think so.
04:00It's a defensive mechanism.
04:02I don't want my daughter to go through this.
04:04I don't want to see this.
04:06I'll push it back.
04:07It's gone in the past.
04:08I'll never enter that world again.
04:11I think it's a defensive mechanism.
04:14I think it's going to an extreme point.
04:17What do you think, Hafiz?
04:19When we talk about between two stars.
04:21I don't think it's just a financial perspective.
04:24Maybe it's a difference in the background.
04:28Maybe it's a difference in education.
04:32But that's my opinion.
04:33I think it happens in every community.
04:35You see it in the history of India.
04:37You see it in the history of Malay.
04:39You see it in the history of China.
04:41Hong Kong.
04:42It's all the same.
04:44Money.
04:46When we don't have money, we wish for money.
04:49When we have money, we tend to forget what we did to get it.
04:52Sometimes, people who earn money so easily...
04:55...tend to forget the value of money.
04:58They think money is the way out for everything.
05:00But the thing that you see inside the scene.
05:03Would it be a perfect family if your daughter...
05:06...brought a man to see you...
05:08...just to make you throw up?
05:11I mean, is that really a happy connection?
05:13Is that really a life that you want to live?
05:15I don't think so.
05:16But personally, in my opinion...
05:18...because I'm also mixed.
05:19I like Zain.
05:20I'm a bit of an Indian.
05:22I'm with two people with a lot of mixed.
05:25My mum is fully Indian.
05:27So, it's an Indian-Muslim family.
05:29Yes, status does play a role.
05:31Education.
05:32Financial.
05:33A lot of things.
05:34Because it's an indicator that we can easily see...
05:37...with a glance.
05:38I mean, when you meet people...
05:39...you cannot know their personality.
05:41But what you can see is how they dress.
05:43How many cars they drive.
05:45Representing.
05:46Yes, representing themselves.
05:47So, that is the first thing that comes to mind.
05:49Correct.
05:50For any parents...
05:51...when they want to see their children...
05:52...become friends with this guy.
05:54So, at least I want to know...
05:55...what I've given to my children all this while...
05:57...can also be done by this guy, right?
05:59So, for example, Emma.
06:01She lives in Bangalore.
06:02Suddenly, her husband comes and asks her...
06:03...to live in a village.
06:04Can she do that?
06:05Because we know...
06:07...that you're used to living in Bangalore...
06:08...with three maids.
06:09So, if you want to live with your husband...
06:11...on the basis of love...
06:12...you have to remember that you have to cook for yourself.
06:14You have to feed the fish yourself.
06:15You don't have a helper.
06:16You don't have a helper.
06:17You have to send your own child.
06:18You don't have an account at home, right?
06:19Yes.
06:20Can you actually live with that?
06:21So, knowing you as my child...
06:22...I just want to warn you.
06:27So, you need to find someone...
06:28...that can pamper you...
06:29...so that you don't get tired of this guy...
06:30...until five years down the road.
06:31Never change.
06:32Wow.
06:33Is this the heartache of Dato' Norish just now?
06:35I think I get it now.
06:37I'm not backing out.
06:38No, I think we're looking at both sides.
06:41Of course, the easiest thing to go is...
06:43...towards Emma's side of the argument.
06:46But, let's look at it.
06:48The best thing to do is always to look at both sides.
06:50So, when you're able to...
06:52...for the first time, you can see...
06:54...why is he attacking?
06:55What is the actual cause of his attack?
06:58What is the backbone towards this?
06:59Why is this happening?
07:01And then, you can start to understand.
07:02And then, you can break that person down.
07:04True.
07:05But, maybe...
07:06...on a more personal...
07:08...side from Zain himself...
07:10...apart from the age difference...
07:12...are there any other differences...
07:15...that people don't even know about?
07:18Mr. Tah is more of a...
07:20...typical Malay.
07:22Both parents are Malays.
07:23They grew up in the village.
07:24So, I would like to say orthodox.
07:26It's traditional.
07:27Very traditional, right?
07:29So, the villagers are always big.
07:31True.
07:32You want to break out...
07:33...from that...
07:34...cycle, right?
07:35You want to be somebody.
07:36So, that was Mr. Tah.
07:37He wanted to be somebody.
07:38So, he became a cook.
07:39And then, he started to get offers...
07:41...to act and so on.
07:42But, she hustles, right?
07:43Yes, she has a very big hustle.
07:45So, for her...
07:46...it's a whole different situation from mine.
07:48I came from my family.
07:50My father passed away when I was...
07:51...20-something.
07:53I was married.
07:54I already had Aishah.
07:55So, my father was always away working.
07:57My mother brought me up.
07:58My mother being English.
08:00When she got married to my father...
08:03...the story is in English.
08:05My parents didn't accept it.
08:07This is interesting.
08:08My grandparents, until the day they died...
08:10...never met my father.
08:12They went to England.
08:13They didn't meet him.
08:14They didn't accept him.
08:15They?
08:19They didn't accept him.
08:20They didn't?
08:21Yes.
08:22They never met.
08:23Because they didn't approve.
08:24But, of course, the grandchildren...
08:25...all...
08:26...the grandchildren...
08:27...it's always the children that...
08:28...gives the connection back.
08:30They accepted it.
08:31My mother came back.
08:34She brought the children.
08:35The children...
08:36...from the marriage.
08:38How was it for your mom?
08:39How was it for your mom?
08:40My mom...
08:41...after she got married, she moved here.
08:42I see.
08:43Being away from family.
08:44Being rejected.
08:45What?
08:46She had a very good...
08:48...structure here.
08:49I think my family is very...
08:51...supportive.
08:52In terms of my uncles.
08:53My grandfather...
08:55...didn't accept it.
08:56My mother didn't.
08:57Where did you get married?
08:59It means both...
09:00...grandparents didn't accept it.
09:02But my father brought it back.
09:03He brought it back.
09:04And then...
09:05...seeing my mother is willing to...
09:07...learn everything.
09:08Cooking and everything.
09:09My grandfather was proud.
09:10Really?
09:11My grandfather went around the village.
09:13Okay.
09:14She won over their hearts.
09:15You know, by being...
09:16...humble.
09:17Learning everything.
09:18Again.
09:19So...
09:20...from small beginnings.
09:21From...
09:22...learning from my grandmother...
09:23...how to cook.
09:24My father's meals.
09:25I...
09:26...even until now, I eat...
09:27...all Malay food.
09:28Okay.
09:29It's interesting to hear...
09:30...your grandparents' stories...
09:31...and your mother's stories.
09:32But for you and your aunt...
09:33...when you brought your aunt back...
09:35...to meet your parents...
09:37...and your family.
09:38What was their reaction?
09:40Did they feel like...
09:42...let's do it.
09:43Or was it like...
09:44...wow, let's do it.
09:45I don't know.
09:46I think initially, yes.
09:48Because of the age gap.
09:50But then my mother knowing that...
09:52...you know, my mother is very open-minded.
09:53She's the type...
09:54...that's okay.
09:55She's not the type to stop you.
09:57She said, are you sure you want to make this decision?
09:59You know, you're going to go through.
10:00She's got two kids and everything.
10:02You're going to have to be a father...
10:03...instantly and whatnot.
10:05It's not an easy road, she said.
10:07But if it's possible, okay, do it.
10:09I'm not going to stop you.
10:10But understand what you've got paved in front of you.
10:13Of course, it's not an easy road.
10:14Any marriage...
10:15...any marriage is, you know...
10:16...they have rocky roads.
10:17One here and there.
10:18You know.
10:19Allah's test is always there.
10:20And that is part of life.
10:22And...
10:23...it's how...
10:24...I think as a man...
10:25...I think I take it from the side of the husband...
10:28...is how are you able to...
10:30...compress your ego.
10:33I think that is the main thing.
10:35I think that is the key to a healthy marriage.
10:38Okay.
10:39It's very interesting when you talk about ego, right?
10:41I don't know, Hafiz.
10:42Maybe you would agree or maybe you wouldn't agree.
10:45When we talk about these two levels...
10:48...definitely ego plays a role, plays a part there.
10:52I think ego is also important.
10:54In a sense, ego gives you a sense of security.
10:57I mean, you need to have ego for you to sense danger.
10:59During my time...
11:01...when I took my wife to see my mom...
11:03Okay, how was that?
11:04So, the ego that a mom has is that...
11:06...I cook for my son.
11:08For every day of his life.
11:10I prepare everything for him.
11:11Are you ready to resume this responsibility?
11:13I mean, that's the ego that a mom has...
11:15...of her children, right?
11:17So, that ego is a must.
11:18But, the ego has a purpose...
11:21...to tell the person that is going to enter your son's life...
11:24...your daughter's life...
11:25...this is the person that is going to scare you...
11:28...if you hurt my daughter's feelings.
11:30But, behind that ego, as you said...
11:32...you need to be tolerant.
11:34But, why do you think...
11:37...like I said earlier...
11:39...since long ago, these two levels still exist.
11:41And you also established.
11:42It's not just in our culture.
11:43It's not just in Malaysia...
11:45...that there's an issue with these two levels.
11:47If you turn on the TV, if you turn on the drama...
11:49...even in a thousand years...
11:51...the issue with these two levels...
11:53...is still there.
11:55Are we a society that didn't learn at all...
11:58...from what happened in the past?
12:01What do you think?
12:02I think it will happen again and again.
12:04This has to go back to the song, New Boss.
12:06The history might be repeating itself.
12:08Aren't you going to sing?
12:10Because it will always happen.
12:12History will always repeat itself.
12:14And I think that is...
12:15...like I said, it comes back to being defensive.
12:17I think it's something where...
12:19...as a human being...
12:20...you're always trying to protect yourself...
12:22...trying to protect your children and so on.
12:24We've been through that.
12:26We wouldn't want our children to go through that.
12:28We know how painful it is.
12:31Because when I look at him...
12:35...he really reminds me...
12:39...of your father.
12:41A man who is not responsible.
13:11I think that's where it comes down to.
13:13Just to add a bit.
13:14If we talk about Dato' Rudra Rajak...
13:16...he's not just a rich man...
13:18...who has pride and wealth.
13:20He doesn't have that particular mindset...
13:23...against the poor.
13:24The poor also have the same...
13:25...story as Dato' Rudra Rajak.
13:27For example, he said his daughter is pretty.
13:29He doesn't want his daughter to marry a rich man.
13:31He wants to say that even though he's poor...
13:33...he still wants his daughter to marry him.
13:35Interestingly, there's a documentary in the US...
13:38Did you guys watch the same documentary?
13:40I don't know. Maybe.
13:42There's a documentary about pageants in the US.
13:45It's about why mothers are so fierce.
13:48Because they know this is a way out.
13:50You can't be rich if you keep working.
13:52So, you need some miracle to happen...
13:54...for you to get that kind of life.
13:56So, they force their children to become...
13:59...beauty pageants, to become models...
14:01...and train them as influencers since they're young.
14:03Dato' Rudra Rajak is applicable to the poor as well.
14:06Not the poor. I'm sorry.
14:07Scratch that.
14:08It's applicable to those who can't afford it.
14:11Be careful.
14:13I'm poor as well.
14:14Being poor is not a negative thing.
14:16But for us...
14:18Hold on.
14:19Do you guys think Dato' Rudra Rajak...
14:22...is a part of society?
14:24There's a religion.
14:26There's a religion that looks at one's descendants.
14:29Of course, the main thing is to look at their religion.
14:33How does he practise the religion of Islam?
14:36That's the most key.
14:38If you're already rich, you don't need to look for someone...
14:41...who is...
14:42It's not that you can't.
14:43You can.
14:44You want to go and find somebody that is...
14:46Because of me?
14:47Yes.
14:48He's like this.
14:49It's a drama.
14:50Yes.
14:51Honestly.
14:52I don't remember.
14:53I think, for me, nowadays...
14:55...Dato' Rudra Rajak is not that apparent anymore.
14:58Okay.
14:59If you're talking about boomers, maybe they have that kind of mindset.
15:02But, later on.
15:03The next generation.
15:04I think we wouldn't care about that much...
15:06...like we do now.
15:08Because, Dato' Rudra Rajak...
15:10...back then, people thought that if you wanted to be rich, you had to be a doctor.
15:13A lawyer.
15:14A doctor.
15:15A magistrate.
15:16But, nowadays...
15:17...even if you're poor, you're still rich.
15:18That's right.
15:19That's right.
15:20He's always right.
15:22So, is there a value to it?
15:24You can be rich, but...
15:26...what value do you get from having a daughter-in-law?
15:28Correct.
15:29It's good to have a daughter-in-law who works...
15:31...as a school teacher.
15:32Her salary is high.
15:33But, she has integrity.
15:34Yes.
15:35She's good at taking care of her children.
15:36She's good at talking.
15:37She's respectful.
15:39But, actually...
15:40...between the two, it happens in the context of the society as well.
15:43True.
15:44If you get what I mean.
15:45For example, if we're talking about anything...
15:47...that happens...
15:49...if someone has a higher rank...
15:52...a higher status...
15:53...they'll get a different kind of treatment.
15:56It's easy for us.
15:57Celebrities.
15:58Celebrity privileges.
16:00It's us, not him.
16:01But, it happens.
16:03Celebrity privileges.
16:05Men's privileges.
16:07Beauty privileges.
16:09Many different types, right?
16:10Is that right?
16:11But, do you think this is human nature?
16:15True.
16:16Or, is this something that society has learned?
16:20I think it's because...
16:21...for example, if you're coming from a celebrity...
16:23...you'll be idolized.
16:24I always say...
16:25...as a celebrity...
16:26...I don't have anything.
16:27I'm empty.
16:28I'm just a PM.
16:29I tried to do graphic design after that.
16:32I got an offer to act.
16:33I had a lot of money.
16:34I went straight to acting.
16:36And, I gave up on studies.
16:38The thing is because...
16:39...I've been brought up in the sense that...
16:40...my mother taught me...
16:41...you're just human.
16:43We're still human.
16:44No matter what...
16:45...never...
16:47...feel like you're always on top.
16:48Never at all.
16:49That's right.
16:50And, another thing that I like to say...
16:52...as soon as you forget who you are...
16:55...as soon as you feel like you're bigger than life...
16:57...that is the moment you're tumbling down.
16:59That's it.
17:00That's why it's like...
17:01...it's like...
17:02...maybe...
17:03...someone has experienced this.
17:05If an artist does it, it's a letdown.
17:07Certain famous people do it, it's a letdown.
17:10But, when ordinary people do it...
17:12...we're just ordinary people.
17:14We jump queues and all that.
17:16Which I don't think it's fair.
17:17I don't like to do that.
17:18I don't agree with that.
17:19And, when you're in the back of the line...
17:21...you can talk to people.
17:23Get to know people from that level.
17:25It's a whole different thing, you know.
17:26Like I said, if...
17:27...let's talk about...
17:28...just a little bit...
17:30...in terms of politics and all that.
17:32We like the ministers and all that...
17:33...who come from Padang.
17:34Because, that's where you see...
17:36...you're coming down to my level.
17:37Now, you understand the struggles that we're going through.
17:40That is why you're there.
17:41I want to vote for Zhin.
17:42No.
17:43Why me?
17:44In which area, sir?
17:47But, what Zhin said is true.
17:48Even for me...
17:49...even though I'm in the industry...
17:51...I'm still struggling, actually.
17:54But, I like what Zhin said.
17:55Once you forget yourself...
17:57...you feel like you're bigger than everyone else.
17:59You feel like you're everything.
18:01That's what will...
18:02...become your own downfall.
18:05But, I think when I first started TikTok...
18:07...the best part of it is...
18:08...I can listen to other people's stories.
18:10But, you cannot help this.
18:12But, as you get known and all that...
18:14...you will get those perks.
18:16Certain perks that other people don't get.
18:18It comes with the package.
18:19When we meet all these influencers...
18:23...I don't deny it.
18:24As you know, recently...
18:26...certain people get drunk with power and fame.
18:30I mean, that's a real problem.
18:32They get drunk because...
18:33...everyone knows me.
18:34Why did I become a trend?
18:36So, who are you to say I'm wrong?
18:38Who are you?
18:39That's where the Spiderman quote comes in.
18:42With great responsibility...
18:43No, with great power...
18:44With great power comes great responsibility.
18:46But, sometimes when we see people...
18:48...who are drunk with power and fame...
18:50...one thing they forget...
18:51...is that they have fame...
18:53...because of the people who watch them.
18:55Sometimes, when we give a talk...
18:57...we say, remember...
18:58...when you are smart...
18:59...people want to hear what you tell.
19:01Yes.
19:02When you're not that smart...
19:04...even if you tell a story...
19:05...people will know and hate it.
19:06So, when you have that knowledge...
19:08...then people will get credibility.
19:10You can speak confidently.
19:12I can even insult Dato' Norish.
19:14Introducing...
19:15...the new YB.
19:16I want to introduce the new YB.
19:18Mr. Hafiq.
19:20From...
19:21I'll ask questions.
19:23But, what we're saying is true.
19:26I think, in terms of...
19:28...the society between these two levels...
19:30...it happens.
19:31And, for us who feel...
19:32...like we're given this privilege...
19:34...don't abuse it.
19:35And, don't take it for granted.
19:37And, don't look down on...
19:39...people who might not get the privilege...
19:41...like us.
19:42That's the hardest thing.
19:43That's the hardest thing.
19:44To suppress the ego.
19:46True.
19:47But, like I said, ego has its...
19:49...place and time.
19:50Okay.
19:51But, very little.
19:52I have to say, most of the time...
19:53...you have to have that ego suppressed.
19:56We're at the end of our discussion today.
20:00It was really fun.
20:01Honestly, because...
20:02...I feel like I learned a lot...
20:03...from both of you.
20:05For you, Zain...
20:06...maybe you can give a little...
20:08...closure or conclusion...
20:10...to those out there who feel...
20:12...injustice...
20:13...is happening...
20:14...be it...
20:15...in the family...
20:16...or in the society.
20:18So, it comes from two different...
20:20...different perspectives.
20:22So, let's take it from the parent's side.
20:24As a parent, like I said...
20:25...you always have to give them a chance...
20:27...to get to know their partner first.
20:29Okay, we don't know...
20:31...maybe our child's judgement...
20:33...is not that good.
20:34So, we have to be smart...
20:35...and see.
20:36We have to study.
20:37We have to get to know the man.
20:38We have to see how he is.
20:40We have to get to know the parents.
20:42We have to put in a little bit of effort, I think.
20:44And then, you have to be a bit more...
20:46...open-minded.
20:47Don't stop them.
20:48You know, if you see something wrong...
20:50...then you tell your child.
20:52As a child...
20:53...again, we've been children...
20:55...we've been in love...
20:56...we've fought with our parents...
20:58...etc.
20:59Always try to...
21:00...again, see from your parent's side...
21:02...and try to understand...
21:03...and give your parents a chance too.
21:04It's not easy.
21:05I think it's easier from the parents...
21:06...because we have more experience.
21:08For the child...
21:09...they're more like blood...
21:10...hot blood.
21:11Young blood.
21:12Young blood.
21:13They don't understand...
21:14...my way or the highway.
21:15If the child can be a bit more...
21:17...calm...
21:18...sit back...
21:19...learn and...
21:20...because experience is the best teacher.
21:22Nothing can beat that.
21:23You know, you tell...
21:24...how many times have I told you...
21:25...don't hold it, it's hot.
21:26No.
21:27He has to hold it.
21:28It's true, it's hot.
21:29I do that with my son.
21:31Nothing is better than a teacher...
21:33...than experience.
21:34But...
21:36...let's be the safety net.
21:37As the baron, supervise.
21:38Okay.
21:39Zain has given the general history.
21:41Hafiz...
21:42...try to give a few words...
21:43...to Dato' Norish.
21:44I can't say anything...
21:45...to someone who has a character...
21:47...like Dato' Norish.
21:48But I would say...
21:49...someone in us...
21:50...who is the actor's side?
21:51Oh, okay.
21:52Ali.
21:53I mean, Ali's side.
21:54I mean, Ali...
21:55...if you're watching this, Ali...
21:56...okay.
21:57I would say...
21:58...the flower is not the same...
21:59...the flower is not the same, Ali.
22:00Look for someone else...
22:01...because...
22:02...this is a very...
22:03...important thing you need to remember.
22:04When you get married...
22:05...you not only got married...
22:07...to your wife...
22:08...you got married to the family as well.
22:09And if you hate her family...
22:11...you will find it very hard...
22:13...to leave.
22:14But, to me...
22:15...if you're not ready to detach...
22:17...from your family...
22:18...you shouldn't get married.
22:20Emma, I mean...
22:21...the person Emma.
22:22You need to tell Emma...
22:23...if you want to marry me...
22:24...you lose the title.
22:25Because...
22:26...we know that if we detach...
22:27...and the mother-in-law can't accept it...
22:29...can you actually leave?
22:30Because...
22:31When you have children...
22:32...your grandchildren...
22:33...when you bring them home...
22:34...to your mother-in-law...
22:35...oh, my grandchildren...
22:37...wear expensive clothes...
22:38...I can't wear cheap clothes...
22:39...I have to wear expensive clothes...
22:40...you can't accept it either.
22:41So, this thing...
22:42...I think...
22:43...you will find it very hard...
22:44...to live with your partner...
22:46...if you're too much...
22:47...with what people say.
22:48To me...
22:49...as a man...
22:50...you need to have confidence.
22:51Confidence in yourself.
22:52Believe in yourself first.
22:53But, I guess...
22:54...that's the best conclusion...
22:55...for our podcast today.
22:56Thank you to the two of you...
22:57...YB.
22:59Amen.
23:00Amen.
23:01Amen.
23:02Salam.
23:03Kota Damansara.
23:04That's right, Hafiz.
23:05And also...
23:06...Kota Damansara...
23:07...YB.
23:08Amen.
23:09You never know.
23:10You never know.
23:11But, you know...
23:12...the topic...
23:13...between the two...
23:14...I think it does exist.
23:15So, be someone...
23:16...who doesn't care...
23:17...too much about materialistic...
23:18...who doesn't care too much...
23:19...about someone's status...
23:20...be someone...
23:21...who sees...
23:22...other people...
23:23...as human beings too.
23:24Everyone is the same.
23:25Okay.
23:26Last time, don't forget...
23:27...to watch...
23:28...the 1000-Year-Old Drama Series...
23:30...The Astro Ria.
23:32Okay.
23:33Bye, YB.
23:34Peace be upon you.
23:35Peace be upon you too.