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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
- Tauseef Ahmed (Former Cricketer)
- Yasir Hameed (Former Cricketer)
"PTI Chief was very clear that he is not supporting TTP۔۔۔" Sahibzada Hamid Raza's Statement
"Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Abhi Bhi KP House Main Grand Opposition Alliance Ki..." Hamid Raza's Statement
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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
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- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
- Tauseef Ahmed (Former Cricketer)
- Yasir Hameed (Former Cricketer)
"PTI Chief was very clear that he is not supporting TTP۔۔۔" Sahibzada Hamid Raza's Statement
"Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Abhi Bhi KP House Main Grand Opposition Alliance Ki..." Hamid Raza's Statement
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:10You are watching the programme At-Taraz.
00:12I am Anika Nisar.
00:13Viewers, today an extremely sad incident took place.
00:16And the sad incident was that there is an explosion in Darul Ulum Haqqaniya,
00:20in the mosque of that mosque.
00:22And just imagine, this terrorist, who may call himself a Muslim,
00:26because how can a Muslim go to the mosque and attack the worshippers?
00:33And its target, according to IG KPK, was Maulana Hamid ul Haq.
00:37Along with him, 7 people have been martyred.
00:4016 are injured.
00:41Those who were taken to the hospitals, there too, the injuries of the explosion have been seen.
00:49This was a targeted attack.
00:50And Maulana Hamid ul Haq had a very balanced religious thought.
00:56And he was a great advocate for the education of women.
01:02And in the last few days, he had some statements,
01:05in which he had given some statements about the education of women.
01:09And the Taliban, on the side of Afghan Taliban,
01:12the education of women was stopped, he was against that too.
01:16So, after doing all this, the journalists targeted him on this very thought,
01:20or I don't know, on the basis of which logic, and he was martyred today.
01:24So this is a sad news, from which we will start the program.
01:28And we will also ask our guests, what do they think about this?
01:31But Mr. Fawad Chaudhary, because in the last few days,
01:33there were some talks about the Grand Opposition.
01:36And this Grand Opposition Alliance could not be formed for so long.
01:39Mr. Fawad Chaudhary is saddened, regretful and complaining about this.
02:10Now, on one hand this, and on the other hand,
02:13which group will sit in the Grand Opposition Alliance,
02:16there are still questions on this.
02:18Because the JUI has said very clearly,
02:21Senator Kamran Murtaza has said that
02:24the way of protest of Pakistan, of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
02:27that way of protest, we will not accept in any way.
02:30Along with this, Mr. Shahid Khan Abbas,
02:32sitting here in my own program,
02:34he has said that we will not accept the way of protest
02:37that way of protest of Pakistan, Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:40So, at this time, a lot of things are yet to be decided
02:43between the opposition leaders.
02:45But, just a little while ago,
02:47there was a meeting,
02:49in which all the leaders of the Grand Opposition Alliance
02:52were sitting in KPK House,
02:54here in Islamabad,
02:56a little far from our office.
02:58And there was some discussion going on.
03:00Now, I will talk about that discussion,
03:02because when we were sitting here,
03:04Now, I will talk about that discussion,
03:06because when we were sitting here,
03:08the guests who are coming with us,
03:10will tell us about that discussion as well.
03:12But, secondly, the government,
03:14has made a big increment in the cabinet.
03:16And after that big increment,
03:18the question arises, where did those austerity measures go?
03:2112 federal ministers and 9 state ministers have been added.
03:24Now, before this, the government was saying,
03:26that our federal ministers do not take salary.
03:29Will these federal ministers run without salary?
03:32And if they run,
03:34then what will happen to the expenses around them?
03:36Mr. Shabli Faraz is also complaining about this.
03:38Mr. Shabli Faraz is also complaining about this.
03:40Listen.
03:41Yesterday, the ministers committed a crime.
03:43They have added more to the cabinet
03:45of their incompetent government.
03:47They have added more passengers
03:49to the boat that was sinking.
03:51If it had to sink yesterday,
03:53then it should sink today.
03:55They have taken the cabinet above 50.
03:57Not just 50, even 100.
03:59They have no moral status.
04:01They have made it for future generations.
04:03Have mercy on this country.
04:05Have mercy on the people of this country.
04:07Now, Mr. Shabli Faraz is complaining
04:09about the increment of the cabinet.
04:11And at the time when the PTI was in power,
04:14PMLN used to complain.
04:16But the sad thing is that
04:18the faces of the chairs of the opposition
04:20and the chairs of the government change.
04:22But the talks remain the same.
04:24The parties become different,
04:26but the talks remain the same.
04:28It is strange.
04:30We have attended a meeting
04:32in which all the opposition leaders
04:34were present in the KPK house.
04:36Mr. Sajzad Hamid Raza is present.
04:38He is the head of the Sunni Ijtihad Council.
04:40He is one of the most important
04:42and influential Ijtihadis
04:44of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:46Mr. Sajzad, thank you very much
04:48for joining me in the program.
04:50First of all, you yourself have
04:52suffered a lot because of TTP.
04:54You have suffered a lot because
04:56of Khawar-e-Jeen.
04:58Maulana Hamid has been martyred.
05:00All the sims are there.
05:02Would you like to comment on this,
05:04Mr. Sajzad?
05:06Thank you very much.
05:08But it is very sad.
05:10Because these militant extremists
05:12and religious fanatics,
05:14because of them,
05:16my father and my party,
05:18around 160 people,
05:20did not live in this world.
05:22And Maulana Hamid-ul-Haq Haqqani
05:24is a very moderate person.
05:26A few days ago,
05:28we had a meeting
05:30in the KPK House
05:32regarding Bain-ul-Masalik Harmony.
05:34The CM of KPK took that initiative.
05:36He was present there as well.
05:38He had a very positive conversation there.
05:40He talked about
05:42ending violence in religion
05:44and bringing all
05:46sects of thought together.
05:48So, I think that
05:50first of all,
05:52any attack on a madrasa
05:54or a mosque,
05:56during the Friday prayers,
05:58and Deoband's
06:00services,
06:02it is a sad day.
06:06I would like to ask
06:08another political
06:10and unfortunately religious question.
06:12The perpetrators
06:14are the Khawar-e-Jeen.
06:16And those perpetrators
06:18are the ones who
06:20forced Maulana
06:22Haqqani to speak
06:24in favour of education
06:26and against it.
06:28He was martyred.
06:30Now, you are standing
06:32with a group
06:34that supports TTP
06:36and talks about rehabilitating them.
06:38You yourself
06:40supported those people
06:42whom you are an ally of.
06:44How does this go together?
06:46First of all,
06:48Khan Sahib was very clear on it
06:50that he is not supporting TTP.
06:52When these people
06:54were being brought
06:56into the national arena,
06:58he was referring to the
07:00people of the city.
07:02As I was also present
07:04in the high-profile meeting
07:06of TTP,
07:08though I boycotted that on this issue,
07:10that there should not be
07:12any negotiation with the militants
07:14as they are the killers of 80,000 Pakistanis.
07:16But there, it was
07:18made clear that we are not
07:20talking about TTP.
07:22Who were they, Sajjad Sahib?
07:24Afghan Taliban.
07:26Some of the local people
07:28in the Taliban
07:30are not a part of TTP.
07:32There are some other groups.
07:34Do you know how many people
07:36were there in that army?
07:38Sajjad Sahib, you realise that, right?
07:40Who knows more than me?
07:42You should be very vocal about it.
07:44Khan Sahib has spoken about it
07:46What can I say?
07:48The way my father supported
07:50the Pakistanis,
07:52the way I supported
07:54the Pakistanis,
07:56the way I suffered,
07:58the things I went through,
08:00today I am a terrorist
08:02in the eyes of the Pakistanis.
08:04I am a rebel.
08:06I don't know how many
08:0861 FIRs are there.
08:10That is a different issue.
08:12Tell me, Sajjad Sahib,
08:14what happened,
08:16the two-day conference
08:18of the Grand Alliance
08:20of your opposition,
08:22the seminar,
08:24the government says
08:26that we did not do anything.
08:28We did not stop it.
08:30This was basically
08:32your issue with the hotel management.
08:34Was this really an issue
08:36with the hotel management?
08:38First, one hotel got cancelled.
08:40I can provide that by the government.
08:42Second, one hotel got cancelled.
08:44The NOC of that hotel got cancelled.
08:46In E11, the marquee of that hotel
08:48got cancelled.
08:50The marquee was sealed
08:52by the magistrate.
08:54Now tell me,
08:56apart from the magistrate
08:58or the AC,
09:00can a person seal a property?
09:02Doesn't it come under the government?
09:04Number one.
09:06Number two,
09:08when Legend Hotel got cancelled,
09:10the government gave them the order.
09:12No, not the government.
09:14There is a live video.
09:16No, I understand.
09:18When the hotel manager
09:20of Legend Hotel
09:22is sitting in his room,
09:24he is saying that
09:26he is getting a lot of pressure.
09:28What should I do?
09:30These are his words, not mine.
09:32When the hotel management
09:34is saying that they are being pressured.
09:36If we had to create
09:38a problem or something,
09:40we had a hundred other ways.
09:46Were there people from your media?
09:48Yes.
09:50Ask the reporter.
09:52I don't need to ask.
09:54I believe there should be seminars.
09:56You were there.
09:58No, I was not there.
10:00Unfortunately, I was busy in my personal commitments.
10:02The thing is that
10:04seminars are not a problem.
10:06Now tell me,
10:08your grand alliance of the opposition
10:10is still on hold.
10:12You are giving calls of protest
10:14and saying that we will come on the streets.
10:16On the other hand, Shahid Khan Abbasi
10:18is saying that we don't protest on the streets.
10:20On the other hand,
10:22Kamran Murtaza is saying that
10:24we don't co-operate with PTI
10:26and their allies.
10:28What is going to happen?
10:30Shahid Khan Abbasi is still sitting
10:32in the house of KP
10:34I have come out of that meeting.
10:36What has been decided?
10:38It will be done soon.
10:40Give me some breaking in my program.
10:42The breaking is that
10:44all the Jamaats have agreed on this.
10:46Yesterday's announcement was of Mutafiqa.
10:48Was Maulana's Jamaat not there?
10:50No, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari
10:52and Senator Kamran Murtaza were there.
10:54Everything happened with their consent.
10:56The second thing is that
10:58only the limits of protest will be decided.
11:00In today's meeting, it was decided
11:02that the steering committee
11:04will decide the TORs within a few days.
11:06I think they will announce the date
11:08by the time I leave.
11:10After that,
11:12we will give 10 days
11:14to each respective political party
11:16to go back to their leadership
11:18with those TORs.
11:20After approval from there,
11:22we will finally announce
11:24what we are going to do.
11:26Has it not been decided yet
11:28that there will be a protest on the streets?
11:30No, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari
11:32and Senator Kamran Murtaza
11:34have agreed on this.
11:36But if Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari
11:38and Senator Kamran Murtaza
11:40do not agree on this,
11:42then there is no street power.
11:44What street power?
11:46You do not want street power?
11:48No.
11:50Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari
11:52and Senator Kamran Murtaza
11:54have a large number of Madars.
11:56I have 6,000 Madars.
11:58Forget about that.
12:00He is a student.
12:02I do not want to go into that.
12:04Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari
12:06and Senator Kamran Murtaza
12:08have a large number of followers.
12:10It is the right of every community
12:12to participate in any movement.
12:14I am still positive regarding Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidari.
12:16The reason for this is
12:18that the two-way committee
12:20formed by Asad Qaisar
12:22and Senator Kamran Murtaza
12:24have briefed us
12:26on the issue.
12:28Things are very positive.
12:30But you have not replied
12:32to their written demands.
12:34The reason for that is
12:36that Asad Qaisar
12:38went to Sindh with us
12:40immediately after the meeting.
12:42We were in Sindh for five days.
12:44They gave it on 12-13.
12:46No, they gave it after that.
12:48They gave it on 12-13.
12:50If they have given it on 12-13,
12:52then you can see the happenings.
12:54Things will not be finalized in five-seven days.
12:56Asad Qaisar has finalized things.
12:58The problem is that
13:00political leadership is not allowed to go to Mr. Khan.
13:02Yesterday, after the convention,
13:04Mr. Umar Ayyub,
13:06Mr. Junaid Akbar,
13:08Mr. Shahram Taraki
13:10and Mr. Kamal Shozab
13:12were present.
13:14If we have to get approval
13:16from Mr. Khan,
13:18then we have to allow them to go.
13:20Until you get permission,
13:22things will not be finalized.
13:26We are not going to prolong it anymore.
13:28It has been decided today
13:30that we have to settle everything
13:32within Ramzan.
13:34It is not possible
13:36in Ramzan-ul-Mubarak.
13:38Then, what about April?
13:40What kind of protest will be there this time?
13:42Will it be the same as in Torpor or
13:44in Puravan?
13:46It depends.
13:48The government gives an answer.
13:50What will be the answer?
13:52What did we do in Torpor?
13:54Didn't you take the
13:56sticks and tear gas?
13:58No, we didn't.
14:00Are there any videos of it?
14:02What if the gunmen
14:04picked it up from there?
14:06No, we didn't.
14:08Let me tell you one thing.
14:12I don't believe in the
14:14philosophy of picking up a gun.
14:16Which is the right way
14:18to go about it?
14:20Until now.
14:22Until now?
14:24I am a very democratic,
14:26civilized, law-abiding
14:28citizen of Pakistan.
14:30You should be against me
14:32because I am the
14:34person who is on the
14:36hit list of TTP and band
14:38outlets. After withdrawing
14:40my security, if you don't
14:42allow me to take my
14:44personal weapon,
14:46I will put myself in
14:48the hands of death.
14:50My family doesn't ask me.
14:52My community doesn't ask me.
14:54Let me tell you one more thing.
14:56The most painful
14:58phase in my life
15:00is when I have to pick up a gun.
15:02My father didn't raise me
15:04on these grounds.
15:06I will pick it up one day.
15:08I don't pick it up quietly.
15:10The state's attitude depends.
15:12What attitude are you
15:14talking about?
15:16The same attitude when
15:18Mariam Nawaz, Bilawal Bhutto,
15:20Maulana Fazlur Rehman
15:22took their long marches
15:24on this Constitution Avenue
15:26in Islamabad.
15:28Not a single hurdle was created
15:30in the way. That was the time
15:32of Imran Khan's government.
15:34They also broke it and left.
15:36No, no, no.
15:38They came and left.
15:40They said that they will sit
15:42in front of the Supreme Court.
15:46And the current Noon League was a part of it.
15:48They did that.
15:50They came out of the Supreme Court and
15:52gave them permission to do everything.
15:54They went away.
15:56They went away.
15:58Exactly.
16:00There is a lot of trust deficit
16:02towards you and the government.
16:04Is that not a red zone?
16:06No.
16:08It is a red zone.
16:10There is a designated red zone.
16:12I don't believe in a red zone.
16:14During the time of PTI,
16:16in 2021-2022,
16:18there was a tear gas shelling on the teachers
16:20that they were trying to enter the red zone.
16:22It shouldn't have happened.
16:24Let's come to this point.
16:26Thank you very much for joining me in the program.
16:28Mr. Rana Sinhawala is with us.
16:30Mr. Rana, you may have heard
16:32Mr. Hamid Raza's conversation.
16:34In my program, you said that
16:36if there is a Grand Opposition Alliance,
16:38it will be easier for you
16:40to talk on one side
16:42instead of talking to different parties.
16:44But the hotel booking
16:46that happened
16:48and the opposition was not allowed to speak
16:50and the Grand Opposition Alliance
16:52was not allowed to speak.
16:54It was stopped and the leaders had to leave.
16:56Doesn't this make you feel
16:58that the government is happy?
17:00Does the government feel threatened
17:02by the opposition alliance?
17:04Yesterday,
17:06we heard
17:08that
17:10the conference was stopped
17:12and
17:14there was a talk
17:16to lock the conference.
17:18As far as I know,
17:20no one took the responsibility
17:22to lock the conference.
17:24The local administration
17:26said that
17:28this is the matter of the hotel owners
17:30and the hotel owners
17:32did not want to give space
17:34for the conference.
17:36Despite this,
17:38they went there
17:40and held the conference.
17:42No one was stopped from holding the conference.
17:44No one was stopped from giving
17:46a speech.
17:48No one was stopped from covering the conference.
17:50No one was arrested.
17:52So,
17:54this is an administration issue
17:56at the local level.
17:58If someone has
18:00crossed the line,
18:02the opposition can take action
18:04on this issue
18:06by filing an application
18:08to the court.
18:10But,
18:12no one was stopped
18:14from holding the conference
18:16by the government.
18:18If the government had not stopped it,
18:20the conference would have been held.
18:22The conference was held.
18:24Mr. Miran,
18:26your ex-partner,
18:28ex-Prime Minister Shahid Khan Abbasi
18:30was threatened the day before.
18:32The hotel owners came to us.
18:34The hotel owners said that
18:36Mr. Umar Ayyub,
18:38who is the opposition leader,
18:40is an important part of the parliament.
18:42Obviously, the parliament is completed
18:44with the government and the opposition.
18:46He also said that
18:48we came to know about this
18:50and pleaded with the hotel owners
18:52that this is a compulsion for us.
18:54If the government did not do this,
18:56would the local authorities
18:58understand this?
19:00No,
19:02by the government,
19:04by the government,
19:06by the federal government,
19:08by the federal cabinet.
19:10There was no discussion
19:12in the cabinet
19:14that the conference should be stopped.
19:16If there is a situation
19:18of law and order,
19:20then it is the issue
19:22of the local police station
19:24or the assistant commissioner
19:26or the deputy commissioner.
19:28Mr. Ranjit,
19:30if this situation were to be
19:32flipped and the PMLN and
19:34the People's Party were to be
19:36stopped in this way,
19:38do you think it would have
19:40been a matter of the local
19:42administration?
19:44What would you have said
19:46if you were in that position?
19:48We would have known
19:50who stopped it.
19:52If we had known,
19:54then we would have
19:56talked about it.
19:58So you are pointing to someone
20:00else who stopped it,
20:02who has nothing to do
20:04with the government.
20:06No, why should I point?
20:08Those who have stopped it
20:10should do it
20:12if they have any evidence.
20:14This is not my subject.
20:16Mr. Ranjit,
20:18you and the PM.
20:20But the allegations that
20:22you and the PM are making,
20:24I completely oppose them.
20:26The government has not issued
20:28any such orders.
20:30Mr. Ranjit, you and the PM
20:32have always extended
20:34the hand of friendship
20:36towards Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
20:38whether in the opposition or
20:40in the government.
20:42If such a press conference
20:44had come where you knew
20:46that the opposition was facing
20:48this issue, could the government
20:50blame the opposition?
20:52Then we would have been proactive
20:54and told the hotel staff
20:56not to do this.
20:58Why didn't this happen, Mr. Ranjit?
21:00We didn't know
21:02which hotel they had booked.
21:04They could have
21:06come to us first
21:08and said that the hotel staff
21:10are not listening to us,
21:12so you talk to them
21:14and resolve our issue.
21:16But they know everything.
21:18They know everything.
21:20But despite this,
21:22they have to
21:24blame the government
21:26for everything.
21:28They have to blame us
21:30for doing this and that.
21:32Then who should they
21:34blame?
21:36They should blame
21:38the hotel staff
21:40or ask the hotel staff
21:42why they refused.
21:44Did the hotel staff say
21:46that the minister called
21:48or did the government
21:50tell them?
21:52Mr. Ranjit, you said that
21:54they know everything
21:56but they have to blame
21:58the government for everything.
22:00What do they know
22:02that they should not
22:04blame the government?
22:06They know that
22:08they are lying.
22:10Mr. Ranjit, I want to
22:12move a little bit forward.
22:14If the country is in debt,
22:16the economic situation is bad,
22:18then we will go to austerity measures.
22:20Right now, there are 12 federal
22:22ministers and 9 state ministers
22:24added to the cabinet.
22:26Mr. Ranjit, do we have to
22:28look at the government of Islamabad?
22:30Many departments have been
22:32devolved.
22:34Do we need such a large
22:36cabinet in Islamabad?
22:38The number of
22:40laws and regulations
22:42in Islamabad is
22:44below that number.
22:48If it is above that number,
22:50then I agree with
22:52you.
22:54But it is below that number.
22:56And a portfolio
22:58or a ministry or a department
23:00whose budget is
23:02in billions,
23:04and
23:06if
23:08a state minister's
23:10salary and expenses
23:12can make a difference,
23:14then we should do it.
23:16But if there is a department
23:18or a division
23:20and it has billions
23:22of expenses
23:24and it has to happen,
23:26shouldn't there be a person
23:28for its political supervision?
23:30Can a person look at
23:32three ministries?
23:36Mr. Ranjit,
23:38I know that
23:40the Prime Minister was
23:42closing some departments.
23:44So if those departments
23:46are not needed,
23:48then they should be
23:50put in two ministries,
23:52considering that handling
23:54the federal government
23:56is not as complex as it was
23:58before the 18th amendment.
24:00This exercise has been done
24:02and the rest of the
24:04ministries should have
24:06been put in two ministries.
24:08Mr. Ranjit, if you remember,
24:10when Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
24:12had established Faud-Zafar Moj in its cabinet,
24:14PMLN used to criticize it.
24:16You said that there will be austerity measures
24:18and your cabinet is so long and broad.
24:20The law allows it.
24:22But does the law
24:24mean that keeping in mind
24:26the situation in Pakistan,
24:28the more expenses can be reduced,
24:30the less should be done?
24:32Yes, absolutely.
24:34The austerity measures
24:36that have been taken
24:38are being taken
24:40in detail
24:42in the last
24:44cabinet meeting.
24:46I think
24:48it has been mentioned
24:50in the media.
24:52The austerity measures
24:54are being taken.
24:56Earlier, it was claimed
24:58that many state and federal ministers
25:00are not taking their salaries.
25:02Will these ministers take their salaries?
25:06Yes,
25:08according to the policy of the PM,
25:10everyone
25:12will act
25:14according to it.
25:16Not taking salaries
25:18and traveling abroad
25:20on their own expenses
25:22or in the economy class
25:24is a general rule
25:26of the PM.
25:28So, these ministers
25:30will not take their salaries.
25:32You are confirming that?
25:34This is also a part
25:36of the PM's cabinet.
25:38The PM's cabinet
25:40is important
25:42but the KPK
25:44of the PM's
25:46community is
25:48raising objections
25:50against the PM's ministry.
25:52Mr. Iqtiyar Wali
25:54has also raised this issue.
25:56Your own people
25:58will not raise issues
26:00in their community
26:02while saving the unity of the government.
26:04No,
26:06such issues
26:08will not arise.
26:10But the political workers
26:12have their own opinions.
26:14People have objections
26:16and complaints.
26:18But the political government
26:20has its own priorities
26:22and it is important
26:24to keep them in mind.
26:26We will come back after the break
26:28and continue the program.
26:30We will take a look at cricket
26:32and see what happened.
26:34See you after the break.
26:56The matches were lost.
26:58First we lost to New Zealand
27:00and then to India.
27:02Bangladesh's match
27:04was close.
27:06Interestingly,
27:08Afghanistan's team was better
27:10than us.
27:12They defeated
27:14South Africa and England
27:16and reached the semifinals.
27:18Pakistan is completely out
27:20in Group A.
27:22India and New Zealand
27:24will face South Africa
27:26and Afghanistan
27:28to see who will reach the next level.
27:30We will discuss
27:32what Pakistan has done
27:34and what we have to do.
27:36We should not lose hope
27:38in cricket.
27:40Unfortunately,
27:42we did not get any news
27:44about the Champions Trophy.
27:48Tauseef Ahmed is with us.
27:50He is a former test cricketer.
27:52Thank you very much for joining us.
27:54Yasser Hameed is with us.
27:56He is a former test cricketer.
27:58Thank you for joining us.
28:00First of all, happy birthday to you.
28:02Tell me,
28:04what we have done
28:06or played
28:08is it called cricket?
28:14We have tried
28:16to play cricket
28:18but I think
28:20there are things
28:22that could have been better.
28:24We did not have enough resources
28:26in this tournament.
28:28We did not go with regular openers.
28:30We went with makeshift.
28:34The best batsman
28:36we got to open
28:38was Babar Azam.
28:40Unfortunately, he was not in form.
28:42We put him on the spot
28:44and told him
28:46to come here and try.
28:48He has played 6,000 runs
28:50and is in 19th century.
28:52That was your trump card
28:54and you had to use it.
28:56As far as openers are concerned,
28:58you should have played with regular openers.
29:00Fakhar Zaman was
29:02very good.
29:04Saim was playing very well
29:06but unfortunately, he was unfit.
29:08The players who have been performing
29:10for you over the years
29:12like Imam ul Haq and Abdullah Shafiq
29:14have performed for you as an opener.
29:16You should not discard a player
29:18who has not played in two series.
29:20This has happened before
29:22and we have seen
29:24the consequences.
29:26Let me come back to you.
29:28Let's take it to Tauseef as well.
29:30Tauseef, the problem is
29:32that when it comes to politics
29:34that I am ahead and you are ahead,
29:36in any field,
29:38whether it is politics
29:40or journalism
29:42or cricket,
29:44the politics
29:46within the team
29:48breaks the spirit of the team.
29:50Did you see that
29:52as we have been hearing about
29:54the internal politics?
30:00We were saying that India should not
30:02do politics.
30:04We have easy games
30:06but we have
30:08become victims of it.
30:10What can we say to others?
30:12There is a lot to say.
30:14Like Piyasar said,
30:16we did not make a proper team.
30:18But we are not admitting our mistakes.
30:20This is also a matter of courage.
30:22We are not admitting our mistakes.
30:24We are talking about 25 crores.
30:26There must be
30:28at least 2,000 players.
30:30And they keep saying
30:32that we should
30:34add an opener and a spinner.
30:36But no.
30:38They say we will go with this.
30:40You have seen the result.
30:42Within four days,
30:44in our country,
30:46Bahori Champions Trophy,
30:48within four days,
30:50we went out of it due to
30:52wrong planning.
30:54I think
30:56I still say that
30:58whatever has happened,
31:00it has happened in our country.
31:02We are happy.
31:04But what the team has done,
31:06these people are responsible for it.
31:08You have called four mentors.
31:10All four of your mentors,
31:12let's say they were
31:14walking cartoons.
31:16After that,
31:18you brought in Akif.
31:20Akif did everything.
31:22He made the pitch and won the match.
31:24But after coming here,
31:26we lost.
31:28We lost because we did not
31:30make a proper team.
31:32Not just me,
31:34everyone is saying that
31:36we should have won.
31:38You see, India
31:40got an advantage.
31:42They said we will not play here.
31:44They played and
31:46they know
31:48that we are playing at one place.
31:50And when
31:5212th came,
31:54instead of playing here and there,
31:56they added one more spinner.
31:58So, they got an advantage.
32:00We were going
32:02the same way.
32:04They were bringing
32:06two to three spinners.
32:08Because of the spinners,
32:10Mr. Tawaseef used to be famous.
32:12Now our spinners are disappearing.
32:14But there is one more issue.
32:16At this time, the captain of England
32:18said that I am getting fired.
32:20Our captain says
32:22that we are learning a lesson.
32:24We will do better next time.
32:26It is not just reading a book
32:28and acting.
32:30When will we learn?
32:34When we
32:36started playing cricket,
32:38we started from the department.
32:40We used to go to the department
32:42from the association.
32:44When we used to play in the region,
32:46we used to perform and go to the department.
32:48Then we used to go to the Pakistan team from the department.
32:50When we used to play in the department,
32:52we had a management.
32:54We were answerable to them.
32:56If we did not perform, they used to ask us.
32:58Because of their
33:00accountability check,
33:02we learned to handle
33:04ourselves under pressure.
33:06When we came to the Pakistan team,
33:08we performed for 2-3 years.
33:10Then we reached the next level.
33:12Until we are answerable,
33:14our things will not be right.
33:16Everyone
33:18should be answerable.
33:20If you
33:22did not do well,
33:24you should accept it.
33:26The decision makers
33:28should decide.
33:30You should be
33:32answerable.
33:34When you are not answerable,
33:36coaches are not answerable.
33:38Directors
33:40are not answerable.
33:42You
33:44should be answerable.
33:46Our domestic
33:48is missing.
33:50Boys play
33:52under pressure.
33:54We learn to handle pressure.
33:56We learn to handle pressure.
33:58That's the best way
34:00to go about it.
34:02If you are defensive,
34:04you will see the same.
34:06If you are offensive,
34:08it is different.
34:10We have lost to New Zealand
34:12before.
34:14In this series,
34:16the question is about
34:18the composition of our team.
34:20Should this team
34:22carry this
34:24or should we
34:26change it?
34:56At least
34:58it will take 4-5 years
35:00if you
35:02don't
35:04put pressure on everyone.
35:08I don't understand.
35:10Your audio is cutting.
35:12I will try to connect you on the phone.
35:14Yasir, 4-5 years?
35:16Should we call cricket a good thing?
35:18At least viewers.
35:22You have to
35:24come to the basics.
35:26You have to come to the drawing board.
35:28The legacy of Pakistan
35:30is that we
35:32used to perform well under pressure.
35:34Now we can't get out of the pressure.
35:36When we start well,
35:38we used to win the match.
35:40Now we start well,
35:42we can't finish well.
35:44We can't start well, we can't finish well.
35:46We can't even study well.
35:48What is the problem?
35:50The youngster's mindset
35:52doesn't have muscle memory.
35:54Batting muscle has its own memory.
35:56You stand and play long.
35:58All the big players
36:00have their own muscle memory.
36:02We look for
36:04comfort zones.
36:06T20 is 20 hours of cricket
36:08and 10 hours of batting.
36:10It's not like that.
36:12You have to plan properly.
36:14Don't use your
36:16domestic structure
36:186 months in advance.
36:20Show your availability
36:22to the top stars and players.
36:24After that,
36:26make a plan for the league.
36:28Value your department.
36:30Your department cricket
36:32had the accountability
36:34of the players.
36:36They get jobs
36:38and money.
36:40Now the department is giving
36:425-6 lakhs monthly.
36:44What will happen with this?
36:46There is another big problem.
36:48I am going towards
36:50another problem.
36:52When you leave your work
36:54and focus on other things,
36:56there is a big issue.
36:58You are getting good money
37:00and earning well.
37:02You can play well.
37:04There is a deficiency
37:06that no one is keeping
37:08the players accountable.
37:10Yasser is saying
37:12there is no muscle memory.
37:14What is the reason?
37:16What do we need to fix?
37:18You have a bunch
37:20of 20-25 players.
37:22If we go back,
37:24your players,
37:26your captains
37:28and other people
37:30didn't try to make players.
37:32After that,
37:34some of them became
37:36weak.
37:38I didn't talk about this on TV.
37:40You went to America
37:42and lost to America.
37:44After that,
37:46we heard a lot from people.
37:48We felt it.
37:50We felt it was right.
37:52You fought on captains,
37:54on someone,
37:56on feeding someone.
37:58In that, you ruined
38:00the team.
38:02As I told you,
38:04it will take 4-5 years.
38:06I have never seen
38:08a worse domestic season
38:10than this.
38:12I made my debut in 80.
38:14I have never seen
38:16a worse domestic cricket than this.
38:18This is the crux.
38:20Thank you very much.
38:22In the last 45 years,
38:24you have never seen
38:26a worse performance than this.
38:28We will go to the break.
38:30After the break,
38:32we will talk about a very important topic.
38:34See you after the break.
38:36Welcome back after the break.
38:38In Pakistan,
38:40the preparations for Ramadan
38:42are in full swing.
38:44In the Arab countries,
38:46the preparations for Ramadan
38:48are in full swing.
38:50In Palestine,
38:52despite the barbarism
38:54of Israel,
38:56the preparations for Ramadan
38:58are in full swing.
39:00Despite the barbarism
39:02of Israel,
39:04the preparations for Ramadan
39:06are in full swing.
39:08Despite the barbarism
39:10of Israel,
39:12the preparations for Ramadan
39:14are in full swing.
39:16Despite the barbarism
39:18of Israel,
39:20the preparations for Ramadan
39:22are in full swing.
39:24Despite the barbarism
39:26of Israel,
39:28the preparations for Ramadan
39:30are in full swing.
39:32Despite the barbarism
39:34of Israel,
39:36the preparations for Ramadan
39:38are in full swing.
39:40Despite the barbarism
39:42of Israel,
39:44the preparations for Ramadan
39:46are in full swing.
39:48Despite the barbarism
39:50of Israel,
39:52the preparations for Ramadan
39:54are in full swing.
39:56Despite the barbarism
39:58of Israel,
40:00the preparations for Ramadan
40:02are in full swing.
40:04Despite the barbarism
40:06of Israel,
40:08the preparations for Ramadan
40:10are in full swing.
40:12Despite the barbarism
40:14of Israel,
40:16the preparations for Ramadan
40:18are in full swing.
40:20Despite the barbarism
40:22of Israel,
40:24the preparations for Ramadan
40:26are in full swing.
40:28Despite the barbarism
40:30of Israel,
40:32the preparations for Ramadan
40:34are in full swing.