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"Arrest of Bushra Bibi is behind Ali Amin Gandapur..." - Kashif Abbasi Reveal Insiders - BIG NEWS
first time, a leader is standing against the system of oppression," Asad Qaiser's Statement
Why was Ali Amin Gandapur removed from party presidency? - Asad Qaiser Told Everything
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the programme with Kashif Abbasi on the internal
00:16political issues of Tariq-e-Insaaf, i.e. the removal of Jamin Gandapur from the KPK leadership.
00:22There is a lot of debate on this.
00:24There is a lot of debate on whether the Muzakirati committee will go to the Muzakirat tomorrow.
00:29The Tariq-e-Insaaf will not go.
00:32Today, there was a protest in the Senate against the PIKA bill.
00:36We will also talk about what is the hurry for the government.
00:39Why do the journalists have reservations about the new PIKA Act and why are the politicians
00:47standing with them?
00:49And the chairman of the Senate had issued a production order, which was not implemented.
00:56If he does not implement it, then I will also not come to the meeting.
01:01We will talk about all these things, but let us look at some things on the matter of removing
01:06Jamin Gandapur from the leadership.
01:08It has been said that he is being removed because he is a president and a minister.
01:12Both are very difficult things because of which he can do only one thing.
01:17Before this, you will remember that Imran Khan Sahib was the chairman of the party and
01:21the prime minister of the country in the last government.
01:23Parvez Khattak Sahib was the prime minister of this province for five years and was also
01:27the chairman of the party.
01:29Senior Vice Chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi was the foreign minister.
01:33Secretary General Asad Umar Sahib was also the minister of planning and before that he
01:39was the finance minister.
01:41I don't know if he was the secretary general then.
01:44Many people sitting in the highest positions also fulfilled administrative responsibilities.
01:50So was Ali Amin Gandapur removed because of this?
01:52In hindsight, this is not the reason.
01:54According to my information, this is not the reason either.
01:56There were many reasons.
01:58The most important reason that is currently coming forward is that Imran Khan Sahib
02:04probably thinks that the punishment given to Bushra Bibi was given because of Ali Amin
02:08Gandapur.
02:10Because Bushra Bibi was in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Peshawar, she was present in the party
02:16matters and also in the governance matters.
02:20This is the reason that Imran Khan Sahib was informed about this and Imran Khan Sahib
02:24has also sent a message that the world is saying this.
02:28He sent a message to Ali Amin that the world is saying that this punishment was given
02:32because of you.
02:35So one reason is that the punishment given to Bushra Bibi was given because of Ali Amin
02:39Gandapur.
02:41This is the opinion of Bushra Bibi.
02:43And the messengers who used to meet Imran Khan Sahib were also stopped by Ali Amin
02:47Gandapur.
02:49This has been told by him.
02:51The big question is that will the minister remain?
02:53I think the minister will remain.
02:55And the reason for this is that if the minister is removed, then there will be a
02:59chaos.
03:01He has also been the face of the party for a long time.
03:03He is also a very active member of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
03:07He has mobilized for a long time.
03:11Removing him and removing him from both parties at this time will be a very
03:15harsh and disruptive message.
03:19Do I believe that Ali Amin has a hand in punishing Bushra Bibi?
03:23I don't think Ali Amin will go to such an extent that Imran Khan or Bushra Bibi
03:27can do anything against him to this extent.
03:29I personally think that this will not happen.
03:33But this is definitely going to be thought about.
03:35There is also a very strong worded message about this.
03:37The second is corruption.
03:39On 1st August, I met Imran Khan Sahib.
03:43He had gone to meet him in jail.
03:45He was told to hold a press conference.
03:47He also held a press conference on 2nd August.
03:49Then there was an audio leak in which he was talking about money transfers.
03:53It was said that he was trying to trap him.
03:58He was trying to gather evidence.
04:02But on 16th August, he was re-notified.
04:04Later, Junaid Akbar was also re-notified.
04:08But after that, there was a silence.
04:10So, is corruption the reason?
04:12I have not been able to meet Atif Khan and Junaid Akbar for 4 months.
04:16Finally, I met them.
04:18So, 4 months.
04:20It seems that when I was asked about corruption,
04:24it seems that Imran Khan Sahib had already decided to remove Ali Amin.
04:28That is why Atif Khan and Junaid Akbar were called.
04:32You may remember the long marches that took place in Islamabad.
04:34Once, Ali Amin took a long detour to reach Peshawar.
04:38There was a lot of criticism from the party.
04:40The second time when Bushra Bibi went back,
04:42she said that she did not want to go back.
04:44Ali Amin forcefully took her back.
04:46The failure of the protest is also Ali Amin's fault.
04:53Bushra Bibi also thinks that the long marches were unsuccessful.
04:59This was the reason.
05:01Now, there is another thought in the party.
05:11Ali Amin is very close to the establishment.
05:13He takes a lot of pictures with Mohsin Ravi.
05:15So, this is the reason.
05:17This is the reason that it happened because of two parties.
05:21The party has always worked like this.
05:23This is the case in every political party.
05:25Mr. Mian is the president of the party.
05:27He is also the chairman.
05:29He is also the prime minister.
05:31The president of Punjab is Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
05:33He is also the prime minister.
05:35So, this reason has never happened in Pakistan's politics.
05:37Mr. Asad Qaisar is present with us.
05:39I will start from here.
05:41Mr. Asad Qaisar, Assalamu Alaikum.
05:43Walaikum Assalam.
05:45And you know,
05:47Walaikum Assalam.
05:49And you know,
05:51that this is not the reason.
05:57No, look,
05:59what you are saying,
06:01you have given a complete introduction.
06:03But, I will tell you
06:05one more thing
06:07about the history of our party.
06:09I was an elected president.
06:11I won the intraparty election.
06:13And when I became a speaker,
06:16a year later,
06:18the party decided
06:20that the government offices
06:22and the party offices
06:24should be kept separate.
06:26So, I resigned from the intraparty office.
06:28And Mr. Parvez Khattak,
06:30who was the secretary-general at that time,
06:32resigned.
06:34He became the secretary-general.
06:36I became the prime minister.
06:38And Mr. Imran Khan also resigned
06:40at that time.
06:42No,
06:44Mr. Imran Khan was not the prime minister at that time.
06:46Mr. Imran Khan stayed later.
06:48Yes, he stayed later.
06:50And he was also the chairman.
06:52I mean,
06:54this is also a part of our history.
06:56The decision was made
06:58that when there are two offices,
07:00they cannot be taken care of.
07:02So, this is the reason.
07:04And the rest,
07:06we have started a membership plan.
07:08We are also starting a membership.
07:10And,
07:13we are also starting a membership plan
07:15for the intraparty nation.
07:17So, there was an arrangement
07:19and it was a burden.
07:21Sir,
07:23I am giving you examples
07:25again and again,
07:27Mr. Asad Qaisar,
07:29that this was not the reason before.
07:31And you also know that this is not the reason now.
07:33I mean, the prime minister will remain.
07:35It will be a big decision
07:37to remove him.
07:39It is a big decision to remove the president.
07:41It will not be a big decision.
07:45No, there is nothing like that now.
07:47And I have also met Mr. Qaisar.
07:49When we will meet,
07:51we will ask him everything.
07:53Because,
07:55we already have big challenges.
07:57Sir, which group are you in?
07:59I have heard that you are in Junaid Akbar's group.
08:03Look, I am in Imran Khan's group.
08:05I am with Junaid Imran Khan and Basit Singh.
08:07Your brothers had gone to congratulate Junaid Akbar.
08:09Let me show you a picture of Junaid Akbar.
08:11He is sitting there with flowers.
08:13Mishal Yusuf Devi is also sitting there.
08:17Junaid Akbar and my brother
08:19are class fellows.
08:21They studied together in Peshawar University.
08:23It is because of personal relationship.
08:25It is a very old relationship.
08:27Personal relationship and Junaid Akbar
08:29has been with us for 27-28 years.
08:31Since the party was formed,
08:33he is a party worker.
08:35I was the prime minister for 9 years.
08:38When the party was formed,
08:40he was a giant secretary with me.
08:42He has a lot of hard work and struggle in his area.
08:44When I used to go there,
08:46there was no one in the party.
08:48So, I used to take him with me
08:50to Swat and other areas.
08:52He supported us a lot
08:54in our intraparty elections.
08:56Tell me, Junaid Akbar
08:58had said to Imran Khan
09:00that Ali Amin will not let him run.
09:02No,
09:04it is not like that.
09:06I have heard
09:08that Imran Khan has sent a message.
09:10No,
09:12it is not like that.
09:14Did Bushra Bibi
09:16send a message to Ali Amin
09:18that your time is over?
09:20No,
09:22it is not like that.
09:24But you know that
09:26Yes,
09:28I am saying that
09:31Bushra Bibi
09:33contacted all the opponents of Ali Amin
09:35when he was in Peshawar.
09:37Especially after the first long march.
09:39No,
09:41he was not with the opponents.
09:43We had a meeting
09:45with Shibli and others.
09:47We had a meeting
09:49regarding the issue
09:51of 24th November.
09:53We had a meeting
09:55regarding the organization.
09:57Because,
09:59if you assume
10:01the position of Bushra Bibi
10:03that she is in jail
10:05and she is going through
10:07a difficult situation
10:09and her husband is in jail
10:11and she is going through
10:13a difficult situation
10:15then definitely,
10:17she is a housewife
10:19and she has nothing to do with politics.
10:21But when a situation arises
10:23then you have to do
10:25what is right for you
10:27especially when your husband
10:29is in jail.
10:31Sir, but you were a part
10:33of the first meeting.
10:35I was told that you were
10:37used very harshly.
10:39I have heard that
10:41you left the meeting
10:43in anger.
10:45But I was told that
10:47you attended the whole meeting
10:49and left after half of the meeting.
10:51So, she is not only a housewife
10:53but also a very strict woman.
10:56How do you react to this?
11:00See, I said that
11:02there are some things
11:04like situation and frustration.
11:06But what you are talking about
11:08I can't say that she was
11:10talking like this.
11:12Outside, she was more concerned
11:14that we should do more
11:16which is not happening.
11:18And definitely,
11:20her stance at that time
11:22was that we are doing
11:24what is right for us.
11:26I have a relation with
11:28a younger brother and an elder brother.
11:30I have spent 29 years of my life
11:32with Imran Khan.
11:34Both of us have come down.
11:36I have seen your government down.
11:38When the government was there
11:40and especially after 1922,
11:42when the government left,
11:44until 9th May,
11:46your government was down.
11:48You were not allowed
11:50to meet each other.
11:53No, no, no, no, no.
11:55These are all misconceptions.
11:57See, the first thing
11:59is that whatever I did,
12:01the way you are pointing out,
12:03I did it on Khan's advice.
12:05And I am telling you
12:07on air that the decision
12:09that we made,
12:11it was on the same night
12:13when I gave the design.
12:15Shahmood Qureshi,
12:17Asad Dungar,
12:19Parvez Khattak, Shabkat Mehmood,
12:21you can confirm this.
12:23Yes, I know.
12:25I have heard this from
12:272-3 people separately.
12:29I am not pointing that way.
12:31I am saying that
12:33I remember that
12:35Khan Sahib stayed longer
12:37in Zaman Park after the government left.
12:39But even there,
12:41there used to be a big set group
12:43that used to be accessed.
12:45The Pashtun group used to go
12:47to the back end,
12:49I don't want to go into the details of this.
12:51It will become a long story.
12:53Tell me, whenever, Maulana,
12:55you wanted to form an opposition alliance,
12:57I will come back to political matters,
12:59was the PTI
13:01not united with Maulana
13:03whenever there was a statement
13:05of Ali Amin,
13:07was it ever seen that they
13:09don't want to form an alliance?
13:13See,
13:15because during that time
13:18when there were elections,
13:20this naturally happens.
13:22But when I was in contact
13:24with Maulana,
13:26Ali Amin told me
13:28that you are
13:30in contact with him.
13:32Although, you know that
13:34we had a lot of disagreements,
13:36there was a lot of anger
13:38about Maulana.
13:40So,
13:42we were in that.
13:44Ali Amin encouraged me
13:46and then Shibdi,
13:48Faraz and Umar Ayub
13:50all encouraged me
13:52to meet Maulana.
13:54So, when we first met,
13:56we met on Ali Amin's
13:58email.
14:00And all the meetings we had,
14:02but...
14:04Were you surprised
14:06that Ali Amin used to make
14:08such harsh statements?
14:10Actually,
14:12Maulana's wife used to come
14:15to meet Maulana.
14:17We complained to Maulana
14:19and Ali Amin.
14:21I told both of them
14:23that they should keep
14:25small things aside.
14:27See, at this time,
14:29there are two things
14:31which are challenging us.
14:33First, as a representative
14:35of our area,
14:37the situation of law and order
14:39in our area,
14:41and what is happening on the border
14:43On the other hand,
14:45Ibrahim Khan is in jail
14:47and we have to play a big role
14:49in this.
14:51And we think that
14:53we have to support
14:55all the opposition parties
14:57and Maulana can play
14:59a very important role in this.
15:01So, we want that
15:03if there is a war
15:05between the law and order
15:07in the country,
15:09Maulana has to be
15:11the opposition leader
15:13and he has accepted Umar Ayub
15:15as his opposition leader.
15:17So, we will meet with Maulana
15:19tomorrow.
15:21And we are working on two issues.
15:23One is the issue of the election commission
15:25where you will participate
15:27in the nomination of the member.
15:29And we will meet with Maulana
15:31regarding the negotiations
15:33and we will put forward
15:35the situation in front of him.
15:37And in the future,
15:40we will also discuss
15:42the Darfesh challenges.
15:44And we are making a big plan.
15:46Yes, I know
15:48the plan of a grand opposition.
15:50After that, I will ask you
15:52about the other parties.
15:54Is there corruption in the province?
15:56Khaybar Pakhtoon Khan.
15:58Look,
16:00there is zero tolerance
16:02for corruption.
16:04In any case,
16:06there is no corruption.
16:08There is no corruption.
16:10If there is corruption,
16:12then bring some evidence.
16:14There are many institutions
16:16and we have an institution
16:18of anti-corruption.
16:20So, the notices sent to Atif Khan
16:22are correct?
16:24No, the notices sent to Atif Khan
16:26are old.
16:28And the audio of Shaqeel Khan
16:30in which
16:32there is talk of money transfer?
16:34No,
16:37I can't confirm it now.
16:39The talks
16:41of Shaqeel Khan
16:43and Atif Khan
16:45and the notices
16:47sent to Atif Khan
16:49are old.
16:51The cases
16:53that were made
16:55during the time
16:57of the interim government
16:59are the same.
17:01Tell me, sir,
17:03you are saying that there is no corruption.
17:05I asked Mr. Kashyap,
17:07is there corruption?
17:09He said, yes, there is.
17:11But I will tell you, Mr. Kashyap,
17:13I will tell you one more thing.
17:15Look,
17:17I will not defend anyone.
17:19I don't think
17:21that the basis of our party
17:23is against corruption.
17:25If anyone
17:27does corruption,
17:29then I think that
17:31there should be strict action
17:33against them.
17:35But there is no evidence.
17:37We have our position.
17:39I will talk about you.
17:41You will talk about me.
17:43I am saying that
17:45the people of your group
17:47are saying that there is corruption.
17:49I was asking because
17:51Mr. Junaid Akbar is also a part of it.
17:53He used to tell Mr. Khan
17:55that there is corruption.
17:57Four months later, Mr. Khan called
17:59Atif Khan and Junaid Akbar
18:02One said, yes, we will check and tell you.
18:04Do you know whom I am talking about?
18:06Mr. Shafarman was standing there.
18:08Mr. Khan also asked him.
18:10He said, yes, you tell me.
18:12He said, yes, who is doing what.
18:14So, there is a discussion in your party.
18:16You are not doing that discussion.
18:18Sir, tell me, will the ministers also change?
18:20Because Mr. Khan has asked for a list
18:22of ministers who are doing corruption
18:24and will remove them.
18:26Do you think the ministers will change?
18:28Look, I don't think so.
18:30Is there any possibility of change
18:32in the rest of the parties?
18:34That will definitely happen.
18:36With time, the new president
18:38will do that.
18:40But I want to make one thing clear.
18:42My group is only and only Imran Khan.
18:44Imran Khan is my group.
18:46My focus right now is
18:48how to fight this war strongly
18:50and succeed.
18:52And what is a real war?
18:54For the sake of law and order.
18:56Imran Khan is standing there.
18:59Sir, we want to move forward.
19:01We want to move forward for the sake of the rest of the parties.
19:03But tell me,
19:05till the 9th month of Sheikh Waqas Akram,
19:07he was not made
19:09the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee.
19:11The government was adamant
19:13that he will not be the chairman.
19:15Someone else will become the chairman.
19:17We have heard about Noor Alam Khan.
19:19We have heard about someone else.
19:21He can also become the chairman of another party.
19:23And in two hours, Junaid Akbar's name
19:25was mentioned.
19:27Let me tell you about Junaid Akbar.
19:29Khawaja Asif spoke to the PM
19:31and made him the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee.
19:33Listen to what he said.
19:35I have two terms of familiarity with him.
19:37I think he is a good man.
19:39My opinion about him
19:41is good.
19:43He takes a stand on certain things.
19:45His integrity is intact.
19:47These are praiseworthy words
19:49that Khawaja Asif said.
19:51But he himself said in the program
19:53that Khawaja Asif spoke
19:55to the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee.
19:57It is the tradition of the Standing Committee
19:59that a decision is made
20:01that a certain person has to be made.
20:03The government was not agreeing with me.
20:05The Speaker of the Committee
20:07was adamant that he will not be the chairman.
20:09Therefore, he sent Khawaja Asif
20:11to the PM
20:13and the PM
20:15agreed with him
20:17at 5.30 pm.
20:21Didn't you find it surprising
20:24that Khawaja Asif
20:26went to the PM
20:28and the PM agreed with him
20:30and the Speaker jumped in the middle?
20:32What was the reason
20:34that Sheikh Waqas's name
20:36was not accepted for 9 months
20:38and his name was accepted?
20:40Look, I understand
20:42that Sheikh Waqas is our senior leader.
20:44He is a smart man.
20:46He should have been the chairman.
20:48Why wasn't he?
20:50You can ask the government.
20:52Junaid is our old worker.
20:54He has done a lot for the old party.
20:56I think he is also a good friend of ours.
20:58Sir, do you remember
21:00that Sher Afzal Marwad
21:02was show-caused
21:04when he met Khawaja Asif?
21:06No, I don't remember that.
21:08You met him for the meeting
21:10of the Public Accounts Committee.
21:12You must remember that.
21:14He was angry,
21:16but he was not show-caused.
21:18I think Sher Afzal is a good friend of ours.
21:21We should be careful
21:23when we talk about him.
21:25But I am comparing the facts.
21:27When Sher Afzal Marwad
21:29met Khawaja Asif
21:31to become the chairman
21:33of the Public Accounts Committee,
21:35the party expressed their anger.
21:37Junaid Akbar is saying
21:39that Khawaja Asif went to the PM
21:41to convince him
21:43and the speaker came to the ground
21:45for him.
21:47Everything was settled
21:49and you are saying that it is okay.
21:51Everything is set.
21:55I have made a policy
21:57regarding this matter.
21:59I have kept
22:01the parties
22:03and the standing committee
22:05separate from each other.
22:07I have said that
22:09I am a member of the office
22:11and you should try
22:13to reach a consensus.
22:15But
22:17you have said
22:19that the speaker
22:21has played a role in this.
22:23He has three terms
22:25with the speaker
22:27and that is the reason.
22:29But there is one thing
22:31which is clear.
22:33Sheikh Waqas is also a member of his party.
22:35He does not care about his party
22:37and he has three terms.
22:39If you say so, I will agree.
22:43I cannot give my opinion
22:46because it is his matter.
22:48Sheikh Waqas is also acceptable
22:50and he is a very
22:52sensible and decent person
22:54and he does a lot for the party
22:56and Junaid Akbar
22:58No, I am not saying anything.
23:00I am just comparing
23:02the reasons.
23:04Did Ali Amin congratulate Junaid Akbar?
23:06I don't know.
23:10Should he?
23:12Will he?
23:14I don't know.
23:16I have not met Junaid Akbar
23:18yet.
23:20I want to meet him
23:22in a couple of days
23:24because I was sick
23:26and I was in a hospital.
23:28I have not met him yet.
23:30I have congratulated him on the phone
23:32but I have not met him yet.
23:34But if you come to the political side
23:36then you can talk about it.
23:38I have seen Junaid Akbar's
23:40old tweet
23:43It is from January 16.
23:45It is not that old.
23:47Imran Khan called me
23:49and Atif Khan to meet
23:51but I don't know
23:53if it was the kindness of our own
23:55or the kindness of the opposition
23:57that they did not let us meet
23:59even after 3 hours of waiting.
24:01I don't know who is our own
24:03in this.
24:05I don't know who they are pointing
24:07at.
24:09Let's take a break.
24:13Welcome back.
24:15There is a change
24:17in Tariq-e-Insaf.
24:19In the first segment
24:21we were talking about
24:23why these changes are happening.
24:25I think whenever
24:27we leave one phase
24:29we will go to another phase.
24:31There was a phase
24:33in which elections were held
24:35and the government was formed
24:37and protests were held
24:39but there was no success.
24:42Suddenly I think
24:44Tariq-e-Insaf is running out of options.
24:46Do you agree with this?
24:48At least tell us
24:50until the Judicial Commission is formed
24:52you will not go for a debate.
24:54Yes, we will not go for a debate.
24:56They promised
24:58that they will let us meet.
25:00They also
25:02issued
25:04a written memorandum
25:06with us
25:08in which they
25:11promised to let us meet on Monday.
25:13The government is so poor
25:15that they cannot meet.
25:17Tell me, what are the options
25:19for Tariq-e-Insaf?
25:21You did the debates,
25:23you did the long marches,
25:25you called for a protest.
25:27Now what?
25:29First of all,
25:31options are always available
25:33and
25:35the movements never end.
25:37The movements move forward
25:40Yes, but
25:42if there is a movement
25:44to reform the system, then I agree with you.
25:46The real role is to get Khan out.
25:48And to get Khan out
25:50if you say that this movement will last for 2-3 years
25:52then he has to stay inside for 2-3 years.
25:54Imran Khan.
25:56No, no.
25:58The first thing is that
26:00our movement is to release
26:02Imran Khan.
26:04And with Imran Khan
26:06all our prisoners
26:09and workers should be released.
26:11Number two is that
26:13why is Imran Khan in jail right now?
26:15He is in jail because
26:17he is against this system.
26:19He is against this oppression,
26:21against this inhumanity,
26:23against this kind of martial law.
26:25He is against it.
26:27So we have to protest against it.
26:29When we met Khan in jail
26:31we requested him
26:33to release Imran Khan.
26:35He said no,
26:38you want to release me
26:40but what will be
26:42the cost of it?
26:44I said no,
26:46no, no.
26:48The first thing is that
26:50all our workers should be released,
26:52a commission should be made
26:54and we should have a constitution in our country.
26:56Sir, but it seems that
26:58all these are good things.
27:00Even after 6-8 months
27:02we are still talking about
27:04not having Khan,
27:06we should have a rule of law
27:08and martial law in our country.
27:10First he won the court,
27:12now he has won the media,
27:14he has won the parliament.
27:16What kind of parliament
27:18have you seen?
27:20I don't think
27:22he has run a government.
27:24Maybe he sits every day
27:26thinking that he is the prime minister
27:28and I am the minister.
27:30We are still talking about
27:32not having a system,
27:35someone else is running the system.
27:37But nothing will happen.
27:39It will continue like this.
27:41That's how it looks.
27:45First of all,
27:47for the first time,
27:49a leader has stood against
27:51this system of oppression.
27:53Nawaz Sharif,
27:55after some time,
27:57he made an agreement.
27:59He used to stand for a year.
28:01He used to stand for a year.
28:04After a few years,
28:06when his reign started,
28:08he left.
28:10People's Party leadership
28:12has gone through hardships
28:14but he left.
28:16Khan is the only leader
28:18who says that he will never
28:20leave this country.
28:22But where is the system
28:24that you are talking about?
28:26Chairman of the Senate,
28:28who is the second largest
28:30civilian of Pakistan.
28:33The Chief Election Commissioner
28:35should go home.
28:37What a shame!
28:39The speaker is basically
28:41in a strike.
28:43He is in a strike.
28:47Look at the court.
28:49The judges of the court
28:51are arguing in open courts.
28:53This is the state of the court.
28:55MashaAllah,
28:57they brought him here
28:59when some people had fever.
29:02They are realizing
29:04their mistakes.
29:06The Chief Election Commissioner
29:08is not going home.
29:10The law has already changed.
29:12He will not go home
29:14until he is appointed.
29:16I think he will stay here
29:18for a year or two.
29:20What do you think?
29:22You are right.
29:24Tomorrow,
29:26we will meet Maulana Sharif.
29:28We have talked to Shahid Khan.
29:31We are also engaging the GDA.
29:33In the next two weeks,
29:35we will be calling
29:37the political opposition
29:39of different parties.
29:41Intelligentsia,
29:43Bar Association,
29:45Civil Society.
29:47We have to bring them together.
29:49If you allow me,
29:51I would like to take a break.
29:53Thank you very much,
29:55Mr. Asad Qaiser.
29:57The government is in a hurry
30:00to pass this bill.
30:02It was presented in the Senate today.
30:04I think it will be passed
30:06by the Senate tomorrow.
30:08Shehzad Iqbal is with us.
30:10Our Cankers Association
30:12is also a part of it.
30:14Today, he went to the Senate committee.
30:16There was an interesting debate.
30:18Shehzad, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
30:20Wa-alaikum-as-salam.
30:22You took your reservations
30:24and went to the Senate committee.
30:26What happened there?
30:29We met with Mr. Attaullah Tariq.
30:31Senator Irfan Siddiqui was also there.
30:33He accepted publicly
30:35that it was a mistake
30:37to consult with the stakeholders
30:39before passing the bill.
30:41It would have been a wider acceptance.
30:43He admitted his mistake
30:45and said that his association
30:47and other associations
30:49should be invited
30:51to the Senate Standing Committee
30:53to express their reservations
30:55and make a bill
30:58that would be widely accepted.
31:00We went there with the hope
31:02that we would talk
31:04and he would accept
31:06some logical things.
31:08But as soon as the meeting began,
31:10the government member,
31:12Faisal Rehman, who was chairing
31:14the meeting,
31:16and apparently he is from Pakistan.
31:18He is a Senator of Tariq-e-Insaf.
31:20I will tell you why I am saying apparently.
31:22His story has developed.
31:24He asked the government officials
31:27and Mr. Irfan Siddiqui
31:29and Mr. Rehman
31:31and Mr. Rehman
31:33and Mr. Rehman
31:35and Mr. Rehman
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