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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:15Today we have some very interesting news.
00:18You saw the tweet of Malik Riaz that NAB has issued a warning to the public that if you invest money in the Dubai project, it will be considered as money laundering.
00:32Malik Riaz's response to this was very heart-wrenching. He said that he will not be pressurized at any cost and will not give any testimony.
00:42He said that he has a lot of secrets in his heart and is ready to explode.
00:47He has given a very strong response to this.
00:49When Imran Khan spoke to the media, he said that he has no financial gain from the trust.
01:00Malik Riaz will testify that he was the only Prime Minister who did not ask for any personal gain from the trust.
01:08He did not build a Bilawal house like Zardari, nor did he sell it at a double price like the Sharif family.
01:15These things will continue to happen.
01:17Interestingly, there are a few other developments that are very interesting.
01:20Yesterday, Imran Khan and Bushra Bibi filed an application in the Islamabad High Court.
01:27They have challenged the Toshakhana 2 case and have requested for a burial.
01:34Interestingly, the bench is very interesting.
01:38Amir Farooq took Inaam Ameen Minhaj with him, who has become the latest judge.
01:44It was thought that there would be a senior with him in this case, but he took it.
01:49Interestingly, Fouad Chaudhry pointed this out in his tweet.
01:54When he said that his brother Ikram Ameen is a prosecutor in the GHQ attack case and other cases against Imran Khan.
02:02Should Inaam Ameen sit in this case when his brother is prosecuting Imran Khan and other people?
02:11This is a very straight conflict of interest.
02:14I think they should be recused.
02:18We will see this tomorrow.
02:20It was thought that Gul Hassan would be the one.
02:23Because on 16th January, when Imran Khan's team filed an application, the registrar's office raised objections.
02:30Gul Hassan Oranje had heard the objections.
02:33He told them to remove the objections and then the date would be set.
02:37So this inclusion in the bench is very interesting.
02:39But it is enough to show the direction of the wind.
02:42We have not heard the Supreme Court fight for two days.
02:45Now we are talking about what is going on right now.
02:48I would like to share some interesting developments with you.
02:51These talks will not reach anywhere.
02:58They will die a natural death.
03:01Today, when Imran Khan met his people and spoke to them,
03:05he gave a clear message.
03:07He did not just say that we need a commission from the Supreme Court.
03:12He said that if there is a commission from the three senior judges, then it is over.
03:17Who are the senior judges?
03:19Yaya Fareedi, Mansoor Ali Shah and Justice Muneeb Akhtar.
03:24Justice Muneeb Akhtar and Mansoor Ali Shah are at a very negative risk of the government.
03:29They did not allow one to become the Chief Justice.
03:31They did not allow one to come to the Judicial Committee.
03:34They are not in the benches.
03:36You can imagine that if they are asking for a judicial commission,
03:41then to what extent will it be fulfilled?
03:43The government is not saying anything yet.
03:45But this is what I am going to share with you.
03:48This is a very interesting situation.
03:50Both the PTI and the government are playing the trump card.
03:54How are they playing?
03:56The PTI supporters in America and their lobbying group is very strong.
04:01They have advised the leadership here to keep a strict line and not let this effect.
04:08Because the government wants to give this effect to the new administration of America.
04:13Look, talks are going on here.
04:15We are also doing talks.
04:17It is possible that we will also have a meeting.
04:19And the case of the military court trial is still pending.
04:22The Supreme Court has to decide now.
04:24After that, we will talk further.
04:26They want Imran Khan's message to be very clear.
04:30That I should not give the impression that a soft attitude of the government has come.
04:35And they are negotiating with them.
04:37That is why they have kept such strict conditions.
04:39If the commission is announced, then the next session will take place.
04:42If the commission is not announced, then the next session will not take place.
04:45And the commission is of three senior judges of the Supreme Court.
04:49Because of which it is impossible for two judges to agree with the government.
04:52So this deal is actually practically dead.
04:56And we had shared with you earlier that the meetings of Bushra Bibi were the real things where the talks were taking place.
05:03Clearly, the matter did not come to light there.
05:06And after that we saw that she was also punished for seven years.
05:09Imran Khan was also punished for 14 years.
05:11He has also been kept in a dialogue.
05:13So it is clearly visible that there is no soft attitude there.
05:17Mr. Gauhar met the army chief.
05:20So along with that, clarification also came.
05:23First, the news comes from the security sources.
05:25That there was absolutely nothing.
05:27They were told to talk politically.
05:29And even after that, things did not go beyond that.
05:31So this is the situation.
05:33PTI is waiting and convincing Imran Khan that Trump administration will be involved.
05:39The government is also going on a go-slope.
05:41We are seeing how it gets involved.
05:43And all their hopes are in the fact that they should be handled through Mohammed bin Salman.
05:49And according to me, it is also being tried that in the coming weeks,
05:53somehow or the other, a tour of Mohammed bin Salman should be done in Pakistan.
05:57So that he becomes an even stronger optics and everything happens.
06:01Because Mohammed bin Salman is very important for Trump.
06:05For his own personal businesses as well as for his Middle East policy.
06:09So for him, the best bet for the government is that
06:11Mohammed bin Salman should do something from his side.
06:15So this is the situation.
06:17Both sides are looking at Washington.
06:19They are looking at it from their own perspectives.
06:21And both sides are going on a go-slope.
06:23They want that this impression should not go that we are talking.
06:27They want the impression to go that we are not rigid.
06:29We are engaging the opposition.
06:31We are doing everything.
06:33So very interesting situation.
06:35But another big problem has become serious.
06:37It has developed.
06:39There was a very big project for Green Pakistan.
06:43Around 230-231 billion rupees.
06:45Under which six new canals were being dug.
06:47There was a very strong reaction from Sindh.
06:51And to a large extent, their fears and fears seem to be very legitimate.
06:57There has been a very serious clash in that.
06:59Government, Federal Government, Green Pakistan,
07:04SIFC, Agriculture Department of Punjab,
07:09Federal Government is supporting this.
07:11In fact, Sherry Rehman said in a speech that
07:15if you have made any agreement, then please talk to us.
07:18We will talk to you in the national interest.
07:20But Sindh says that there is already a shortage towards us.
07:23Our lands will dry up more and destruction will spread.
07:26When I share data with you in today's program,
07:29then their talks are not so logical.
07:34So today, the People's Party has called a meeting of its Central Executive Committee in Islamabad on Friday.
07:42And this is on the agenda.
07:44That if this issue of canals and Cholistan Canal,
07:47which six canals have been dug, but the real fight is of Cholistan Canal,
07:51which is being built to irrigate Bhawalpur and Bhawalnagar.
07:57So they have to decide whether we can work with the government or not.
08:01Because water is a very big volatile political issue for them in Sindh.
08:05So this is a very serious issue.
08:07And can the talk be broken on this?
08:10Because the People's Party is also busy making its own game these days.
08:14So maybe they need an excuse.
08:16So we will talk about this.
08:18We will be joined by Dr. Musadeq Balik, Federal Minister of Petroleum.
08:21And he is also looking at water and is a senior leader.
08:24And Nasir Hussain Shahsab, Provincial Minister of Energy of Sindh.
08:27He is a senior leader of the People's Party.
08:29We will talk to him about exactly where the issue of water is now.
08:34Because this is just a political drama.
08:36Or this can be a serious obstacle, which can be the first serious threat to the Shahbaz government.
08:42Let's start after this break.
08:50Welcome back to the show.
08:52Before the break, I was telling you that the Green Pakistan Initiative has six canals.
08:56But the real fight is on the Cholistan Canal.
09:00This has to go from Sulaimanki to Fort Abbas.
09:04It is 176 km long.
09:06And it has to carry about 4126 tons of water.
09:12The whole fight is on this.
09:14Because Sindh says that there is no water in these canals.
09:19So first the government will take water from Mangla.
09:21Punjab and the federal government.
09:23And then when there will be water in the narrow areas,
09:27then they will steal water from Indus.
09:29From Chashma Jhelum and Tonsa Panchnath canals.
09:32And they will say that our land is already dry.
09:36The current situation is that Punjab already has a 13.7% shortage of water.
09:45The water shortage in Sindh is 19.4%.
09:48So we are already living in a time of water shortage.
09:52And there was a very dangerous report from the World Bank.
09:56Pakistan's water economy running dry.
09:58It says that the glacial reservoirs will be empty.
10:05And likely to be dramatic decreases.
10:09The river flow will be reduced by 30-40% in the Indus basin.
10:14The Indus basin has already been affected.
10:16Mr. Shah, what is Fadda?
10:18They say that the People's Party always does the drama of water.
10:23Sometimes they did it on the Kala Bagh Dam.
10:25Technically there was no data.
10:27Even now you have made it an issue.
10:29And the people of Punjab are saying that we will use our own water.
10:33We will divert from our water source.
10:36So what is your fight about?
10:39In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
10:43Allahumma salli ala Muhammad wa ala Muhammad.
10:46Look, first of all we are Pakistanis.
10:49And if Pakistan is strong, then we are all.
10:53And for the betterment of Pakistan,
10:56obviously we have always played the role of the first hand in everything.
11:03And the Pakistan People's Party never acts in a way that is against Pakistan.
11:11The issue is that you yourself, Mr. Malik,
11:16the analysis that you have done,
11:19that is the essence of it.
11:21That in the current situation,
11:24there is not enough water to remove such new canals.
11:32In fact, this is a fact.
11:35You should check this.
11:37Mr. Malik is a respected person to me.
11:40I have a lot of respect for him.
11:42You should check this yourself that the PND department of Punjab,
11:47Planning and Development Department,
11:50has opposed this.
11:52They have given observations on this,
11:55in the beginning of their meeting.
11:57They said that you are going to deforestation in the areas of Punjab.
12:03We already do not have enough water.
12:06If you make such canals and take the water there,
12:10then a large part of the already green Punjab will be deforested.
12:16So this is the case of Punjab.
12:19And Punjab is very important for us.
12:22How can we let it be deforested?
12:24Then comes Sindh.
12:26We already have a lot of issues with Sindh.
12:29Like you said,
12:31you also opposed the Kalabagh Dam,
12:34without facts and figures.
12:37But we have complete facts and figures,
12:40as to what has been happening with Sindh.
12:43And like the sea,
12:46a few days ago,
12:48Mr. Ehsan Iqbal came,
12:50we went to visit the coastal highway.
12:54This was our real view.
12:56Lakhs of acres of land,
12:58of Sindh,
12:59in which people have villages,
13:01that sea has come to those areas,
13:04because historically,
13:06the water that used to go to the sea,
13:09and which used to stop them,
13:11that water is not going there.
13:13So the water of the sea,
13:15villages of villages,
13:17and lakhs of acres of land,
13:19has come under the sea.
13:21And Mr. Ehsan Iqbal himself,
13:23when we were visiting the coastal highway,
13:26doing the aerial view,
13:28he himself saw it.
13:30And these are facts and figures.
13:32The data from the beginning of 1999,
13:36from 1976 to 1998,
13:40more than 40 MF of water used to go.
13:44Now it has become very less.
13:46Maximum also,
13:48if you take the data from 1999 to 2020,
13:52Mr. Musaddiq himself can check,
13:54maximum water used in a year is 14 MF.
13:58Otherwise, 4, 7, 8,
14:00more than this, water doesn't go there.
14:02So these are the issues.
14:04Logically,
14:06it is possible that
14:08we use our own water,
14:10however we want.
14:12It is absolutely correct.
14:13Mr. Musaddiq will give this argument.
14:15And it is possible.
14:17But the problem is that
14:19this doesn't happen.
14:21And this has happened with us in the past.
14:23That when
14:25the flooded canals were taken out earlier,
14:28and they were in that
14:30that when the flood season will come,
14:32when more water will come,
14:34then those canals will be run.
14:36But a few years have passed,
14:38in which we didn't have drinking water
14:40in the areas around Kotri
14:42and other areas.
14:44At that time also those canals were run.
14:46And then,
14:48we are accused of Kala Bagh Dam.
14:50I ask all of us that
14:52Kala Bagh Dam was destroyed.
14:54What was the fault of other dams?
14:56Then tell me one thing.
14:58Who was behind it?
15:00Mr. Peshawar, in July 2024,
15:02why did Mr. Zardari approve
15:04all these projects?
15:06He was the chairman of your party.
15:08Who can think of more sin than him?
15:10Look,
15:12let me tell you.
15:14He is the president of Pakistan.
15:16All the projects of all the provinces
15:18are brought to him.
15:20They are brought to him.
15:22That this is a project.
15:24After that,
15:26he marks the provinces
15:28to give his feedback.
15:30He didn't approve it.
15:32Tell me, where is the approval of Mr. Zardari?
15:34This is absolutely wrong.
15:36President Asim Ali Zardari.
15:38Let's get Mr. Mustafa.
15:40Take the version of Mr. Mustafa.
15:42I have the entire file.
15:44Okay.
15:46Mr. Mustafa, tell me.
15:48He is saying that in the past,
15:50there were floods.
15:52Canals were used.
15:54He says that you will say
15:56that we will use our own water.
15:58You don't have your own water.
16:00You are already in a shortage.
16:02How do you convince them?
16:04Why didn't you take this matter
16:06to the CCI?
16:08Go straight to the Council of Common Interest.
16:10But we see that
16:12your Central Development
16:14Working Party is already
16:16approving it.
16:18You have dropped it.
16:20Why do you
16:22think that you will steal water
16:24in Punjab?
16:26Look,
16:28the first thing is that
16:30my responsibility is not of Punjab.
16:32Nor have I come here
16:34to fight the case of Punjab.
16:36Therefore,
16:38if you want to take a point of view
16:40of Punjab,
16:42you will have to call a minister of Punjab.
16:44My responsibility is the whole of Pakistan.
16:46Yes, as a federal government.
16:48Therefore,
16:50whatever point of view
16:52I will present in front of you,
16:54I will present it from the point of view
16:56of Pakistan, i.e. the loyal government.
16:58Before starting my talk,
17:00the most important thing I will do
17:02is that we will not do anything
17:04in which all provinces are not involved.
17:06Therefore,
17:08this is the end of the matter.
17:10That is, we will not do anything
17:12single-handedly.
17:14Why will we not talk to our Sindh government?
17:16If they have some reservations,
17:18why will we not keep those reservations in view?
17:20There is no such question.
17:22I am still talking
17:24to all my friends.
17:26I am also doing it with friends
17:28of the People's Party.
17:30I am also doing it with other leaders.
17:32I have also called a meeting
17:34of Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
17:36and Punjab's Irrigation Departments.
17:38I have discussed with them
17:40in two different meetings.
17:42I have detailed in one meeting
17:44and after that I have discussed
17:46in an internal meeting.
17:48There are countless informal meetings.
17:50Therefore, first of all,
17:52I want to reassure everyone,
17:54all provinces, that whatever we do,
17:56we will do it with the consultation
17:58of all provinces.
18:00The second thing is that
18:02there are countless inter-provincial issues
18:04that we have to discuss
18:06and develop a consensus on.
18:08This will also be an issue.
18:10We will sit there and talk.
18:12But before that, we will also talk
18:14to the CCI meeting and try
18:16to move forward through a consensus.
18:18This is the first thing
18:20which is the most important.
18:22Now, on the second issue,
18:24I would like to present some things to you.
18:26We need a lot of
18:28sea water to go into the sea.
18:30Many people think
18:32that the water that goes into the sea
18:34is wasted.
18:36But as Mr. Shah is saying,
18:38it is not like that at all.
18:40If the water does not go into the sea,
18:42the sea will ingress.
18:44Therefore, it is very important
18:46that the water goes into the sea.
18:48The water that should go into the sea
18:50annually is about 8.5 million acre foot.
18:52If so much water goes,
18:54the sea will not ingress.
18:56According to all the research,
18:58and this is old research
19:00that I have done.
19:02This is a study of 2005.
19:04It is an international study.
19:068.6 million acre feet.
19:08In the last 10 years,
19:10the average water
19:12that has gone into the sea
19:14is 15.6 million acre foot.
19:16It is needed
19:188.5 million acre foot.
19:20And in the last 10 years,
19:22the average water
19:24that has gone every year
19:26is 15.6 million acre foot.
19:56Let's take a break.
19:58We will talk after the break.
20:00Stay with us.
20:06Welcome back to the show.
20:08Mr. Sadiq, the technical glitch
20:10has been fixed.
20:12You were talking.
20:14Yes, I was telling you
20:16that maybe I was able to do
20:18the first thing.
20:20But now we were talking
20:22about the importance
20:24of water going into the sea.
20:26Because if this does not happen,
20:28then the water of the sea
20:30will start coming,
20:32as Mr. Shah was saying.
20:34One second.
20:36You just told us
20:38how many million acre feet
20:40are going.
20:42But the data we have,
20:44it seems that there are
20:46one or two high points.
20:4814 million, 15 million acre feet
20:50have gone.
20:52And if
20:54the water was going
20:56as much as it should,
20:58then there would have been
21:00no sea ingress.
21:02The fertile land
21:04has been eaten by the sea.
21:06Because the water
21:08is not going there.
21:10The data shows that when
21:12the Trebela Dam was not built,
21:14400 million tons of sediment
21:16used to go there,
21:18and 30 meters were added every year.
21:20Maximum sediment goes there.
21:22So I don't want to become too tactical.
21:24So the water is not going that much.
21:26Otherwise, how did the sea
21:28come to these areas?
21:30How did the sea ingress
21:32happen?
21:34The first thing is that
21:36your data is not correct.
21:38And I am giving you
21:40an average of 10 years.
21:42The average outflow of water
21:44in the sea is 15.6 million
21:46acre feet.
21:48Send your research team
21:50to me.
21:52And I will show you all the data
21:54based on which I am talking.
21:56Now let's talk about
21:58this year alone.
22:00In this year,
22:02only in the last season,
22:04the mining season,
22:06the downstream coterie
22:0821.5 million acre feet
22:10of water has gone.
22:12That means 8.5 million acre feet
22:14of water is needed.
22:1621.5 million acre feet
22:18of water has gone
22:20in the downstream
22:22coterie in just 4 or 5 months.
22:24So whoever is giving you this data,
22:26tell them to investigate again.
22:28Otherwise, I am here.
22:30They can come to me.
22:32And I will put all the data in front of you.
22:34This is one thing.
22:36Now the question arises that
22:38if what I am saying is true,
22:40then why does the sea
22:42ingress in some places?
22:44The reason is that
22:46the water flows in the sea.
22:48It flows more than
22:50what is needed.
22:52But the time when
22:54the water should flow,
22:56it does not flow.
22:58And the reason is that
23:00to regulate the water,
23:02we will have to make dams.
23:04So that the water
23:06continuously flows in the sea.
23:08If in some 1,
23:104, 6 months, the water
23:12flows in the sea,
23:14but in the other months,
23:16the water does not flow.
23:18I think we are moving away from the subject.
23:20Let me come back to this.
23:22No, we are not.
23:24I will tell you why.
23:26Let me rephrase my question.
23:28As he said,
23:30you already have a shortage of water in Punjab.
23:32Mr. Shah said that
23:34your own people said
23:36that if you divert the water,
23:38the fertile areas
23:40will be polluted.
23:42Where will this water come from?
23:44The water you are planning for these areas.
23:46First,
23:48so far I have only proved to you
23:50that if the water is flowing
23:52in the sea,
23:54then it is not possible
23:56that the water is less.
23:58The water cannot go into the sea
24:00if the water is less.
24:02This means that there is water.
24:04The problem you are facing is that
24:06you are not able to control the water
24:08because you do not have a dam.
24:10When the snow melts,
24:12the water flows.
24:14When it does not melt,
24:16the water does not flow.
24:18The way to solve this problem
24:20is that all the provinces
24:22should sit together
24:24and decide whether
24:26they want to build a dam
24:28or not.
24:30Mr. Shah is absolutely right
24:32that Kala Bagh is not a single dam.
24:34If someone has an opinion
24:36that it is not suitable,
24:38then other dams will be built.
24:40And they are being built.
24:42The language is being made.
24:44Allocations are being made.
24:46It was the government of Sindh
24:48when it was approved in the CCI.
24:50It is not that Sindh is opposing everything.
24:52When these dams are built,
24:54the regulatory function of water
24:56will come under control
24:58when another dam is built.
25:00We will have more water.
25:02When it is time to grow crops,
25:04we will leave the water.
25:06When it is not time to grow crops,
25:08we will store the water.
25:10Now I come to your question.
25:12You have asked two questions.
25:14First,
25:16the water record,
25:18the only thing
25:20that the loyal government
25:22has to ascertain
25:24is whether the water is
25:26getting according to
25:28the part of the province.
25:30And what you call a shortage,
25:32it is not a shortage of water.
25:34When it is time to grow crops,
25:36the shortage of water
25:38is less than
25:40what is needed at that time.
25:42If the overall flow of water
25:44is not needed at that time,
25:46then the water will flow
25:48because you cannot stop it
25:50because you do not have a dam.
25:52According to that record,
25:54the percentage of water
25:56in every province
25:58is not only the loyalty of the government,
26:00because the loyalty of the government
26:02itself is an administration,
26:04but through a regulator,
26:06it assures
26:08that the right of the province
26:10will get water.
26:12Now the problem is that
26:14in 70-75 years,
26:16what you call smart metering,
26:18the telemetering
26:20that we have to do
26:22for the flow of water
26:24so that you can know
26:26how much water is flowing
26:28and how much water is flowing.
26:30So the responsibility
26:32at this time is that
26:34the data that comes,
26:36for example,
26:38how much water is coming
26:40in Sindh,
26:42the irrigation department
26:44of Sindh gives that data.
26:46The loyalty of the government
26:48does not collect it.
26:50Similarly,
26:52the irrigation department
26:54of Punjab says that
26:56the responsibility of the irrigation department
26:58is that the data that comes from the provinces,
27:00keeping that data in front,
27:02the right of the province,
27:04more or less than that,
27:06it should not get water.
27:08And if there is a shortage of water
27:10in any season or at any time,
27:12then it is balanced.
27:14Let's take Mr. Shah on this.
27:16Let me get Nasir Hussain Shah.
27:18Mr. Shah, the thing is that
27:20But one last thing,
27:22only one thing, with the permission of Mr. Shah.
27:24Look,
27:26the accord
27:28that I am talking about,
27:30under that accord,
27:32the loyalty of the government
27:34can decide how much water
27:36will be available in which province.
27:38But the loyalty of the government
27:40cannot tell the provinces,
27:42this is section 8 of the accord
27:44that how many ditches
27:46should be made in their province,
27:48how many rivers should be made,
27:50how many small distribution schemes should be made,
27:52even after the 18th amendment
27:54and even after this accord,
27:56that responsibility is given to the province.
27:58But there is a question in that.
28:00Mr. Shah, one question with your permission.
28:02Like you said earlier,
28:04that at the time
28:06when the crops should get water,
28:08if there is no water at that time,
28:10then it will be considered as a shortage.
28:12If any province,
28:14especially the upper riparian,
28:16water has to pass from there,
28:18if it makes schemes
28:20and canals,
28:22that water is there,
28:24it will also make a difference
28:26when that water will reach Sindh.
28:28If I make my four canals
28:30and first irrigate my area
28:32and change the course of the waterways,
28:34then the water that should pass
28:36from my land on 5th April
28:38in Sindh and it reaches
28:40on 30th April,
28:42then Sindh will be in trouble.
28:44Like India is doing with us,
28:46it has not stopped our water,
28:48it has distorted it.
28:50So it is not so simple
28:52that a province can do
28:54whatever it wants.
28:56No, it is not like that.
28:58The first thing is that
29:00the rivers,
29:02the Bain-ul-Subai rivers,
29:04they are under the control
29:06of all the loyal governments.
29:08So it is not possible that any province
29:10can increase the channel of water
29:12more than its share.
29:14That is why the telemetry
29:16that we have allocated money for
29:18and God willing,
29:20it will be implemented in 1-1.5 years,
29:22after which the doubts and suspicions
29:24will end.
29:26Balochistan says we don't get a share.
29:28Mr. Shah, what do you say on this?
29:30I think Mr. Musaddiq
29:32has said two or three positive things.
29:34First, he said that
29:36we will not go without CCI
29:38and we will not do
29:40any such project there.
29:42Second, he said that if telemetry is done,
29:44then your doubts will end
29:46as to whether we got a share
29:48or not.
29:50These things are resolvable.
29:52Then why are you so worried?
29:54Why is there such a strong resistance?
29:58First of all,
30:00let me give credit to
30:02Mr. Musaddiq
30:04that he is assuring
30:06that no such thing will be done
30:08if everyone does not agree.
30:10This is a very good thing.
30:12Secondly,
30:14data will be available
30:16at its own place.
30:18But what is the use
30:20of a handkerchief?
30:22The same thing you said
30:24that if the sea does not
30:26reach our lakhs of acres of land,
30:28then who will trust
30:30this data?
30:32You will only tell
30:34what you see with your eyes.
30:36If the water was flowing,
30:38there would have been
30:40villages and farms.
30:42In fact,
30:44many people had small factories
30:46and businesses there.
30:48Whatever has come under the water
30:50of the sea,
30:52you can clearly see
30:54before and after clips
30:56and pictures.
30:58But it is a good thing.
31:00But Mr. Shah,
31:02you cannot put all the blame
31:04on the Centre or the other department.
31:06If you had done
31:08this,
31:10you would not have
31:12faced so much difficulty.
31:14You cannot put all the blame
31:16on Wafaaq or Punjab.
31:18How you managed the water
31:20is also important.
31:22What is your internal network?
31:24I am telling you
31:26and inviting you
31:28that you must
31:30come and visit.
31:32In Sindh,
31:34there is a misperception
31:36that the people's party
31:38government
31:40or Sindh government
31:42has done something.
31:44The river system,
31:46if there is a better
31:48department than Sindh,
31:50Punjab is obviously
31:52a very old setup,
31:54but the kind of
31:56lining we have done
31:58to save water
32:00and improve our lands,
32:02no other department
32:04has done this.
32:06Sindh is the only department
32:08that has properly
32:10lined the canal.
32:12We have tried a lot,
32:14but the water does not
32:16come from here.
32:18And as you have always
32:20said,
32:22the Sindh will get
32:24affected.
32:26I am not
32:28talking about politics.
32:30These are the facts
32:32that I am talking about.
32:34I am hopeful.
32:36I am very hopeful.
32:38Mr. Shah, I have a question.
32:40You have also been
32:42a government of loyalty.
32:44If Sindh had such
32:46a chronical issue,
32:48why didn't you do telemetry?
32:50Like Mr. Mustaqeem is saying
32:52that we have allocated
32:54funds for it.
32:56So why didn't you do it?
32:58When you were in the federal government,
33:00why didn't you do it?
33:02Yes, we should have done it.
33:04But it did not happen.
33:06Obviously,
33:08it cannot be blamed.
33:10It should have happened.
33:12In fact, it was done.
33:14But it is done in such a way
33:16that if it is spoiled,
33:18in the area
33:20where it comes,
33:22I will speak positively.
33:24I do not want to say
33:26that we are still hopeful.
33:28Mr. Mian has also said
33:30that Mr. Mian will not take
33:32any decision that is controversial.
33:34And when this issue
33:36comes up in CCI or other places,
33:38then there will be no
33:40controversy.
33:42Obviously, our demand
33:44is based on facts.
33:46And we have kept it.
33:48CM Sindh has also written a letter
33:50on it and we have also
33:52spoken to Mr. Mian.
33:54I am very hopeful
33:56that there will not be any
33:58controversial decision.
34:00But this is the reality.
34:02In fact, as I told you,
34:04the observations of the
34:06Punjab's PND department,
34:08their reservations,
34:10they should also
34:12keep in mind
34:14that they have mentioned Punjab.
34:16We also think about our Punjab
34:18that why are people
34:20living there
34:22and 13%
34:24of Punjab's water is less,
34:26then the water will decrease further.
34:28There should
34:30not be any such decision
34:32which raises issues
34:34everywhere.
34:36There is another important issue
34:38that the subsoil water
34:40in Punjab
34:44is that from which
34:46higher than 70% can be populated.
34:48That is not available
34:50in Sindh.
34:52water from the sub-soil, you cannot use it for population. So, the sharing that is there,
34:57which is seen in front, that this much water has been given or this much water has been
35:02taken from the canal or other issue, but as it reaches to Sindh, there is a significant
35:07reduction in it, because all the tubes that are there, there is a very large number of
35:12them, they also take the same water. So, we, your question was that what you have done
35:17in your system, you can definitely come and see that if we do not improve our canals.
35:24I will tell you one more thing about it, that this is a very big water issue, there were
35:31rains, stormy rains, which was the biggest disaster here. In that, you see that if we
35:36had a poor system of irrigation, then many bunds of irrigation would have broken, but
35:44it did not happen anywhere, there was a lot of water, which was of the rains, at that
35:49time, water had also come into the rivers, which was refusing to take the sea, so you
35:55saw that the biggest loss was in Sindh, it happened in other provinces as well. So, we
36:00are ready to show you the irrigation system.
36:03Ustad ji, tell us, you are talking about Sutlej, I was looking at the data, that Sutlej,
36:10Ravi and Bias, from 1976 to 1998, their inflow was approximately 9.35 million acre feet,
36:20and from 1999 to 2022, it has increased to 2.96 million acre feet. Now, if this source
36:27of water is there, it is seriously depleted, and many people think that, they get scared
36:35by this, that the real problem is this, because the project of SIFC came, and it was their
36:40brainchild, so maybe the foreign Saudis, others, they also want to bring them into corporate
36:45farming, big people have come from here, so under the pressure of SIFC, all these plans
36:50are being made, not based on ground reality, but that suddenly, a grand plan was made,
36:58a green initiative, and the ground realities are being ignored, and the administrative
37:03and political pressure has increased. Maybe that is why Shari Rahman gave a tongue-in-cheek
37:08remark, that if you have made any agreements, then tell us, and then you responded to her.
37:15So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
37:22a speed increase?
37:52So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
37:57a speed increase?
38:22So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
38:29a speed increase?
38:30So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
38:35a speed increase?
38:36So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
38:41a speed increase?
38:42So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
38:47a speed increase?
38:48So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
38:55a speed increase?
38:56So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:01a speed increase?
39:02So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:07a speed increase?
39:08So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:12a speed increase?
39:13So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:17a speed increase?
39:18So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:22a speed increase?
39:23So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:27a speed increase?
39:28So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:32a speed increase?
39:33So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:37a speed increase?
39:38So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:42a speed increase?
39:43So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:46a speed increase?
39:47So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:50a speed increase?
39:51So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:53a speed increase?
39:54So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:55a speed increase?
39:56So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:57a speed increase?
39:58So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
39:59a speed increase?
40:00So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:01a speed increase?
40:02So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:03a speed increase?
40:04So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:05a speed increase?
40:06So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:07a speed increase?
40:08So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:09a speed increase?
40:10So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:11a speed increase?
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40:13a speed increase?
40:14So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:15a speed increase?
40:16So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:17a speed increase?
40:18So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:19a speed increase?
40:20So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:21a speed increase?
40:22So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:23a speed increase?
40:24So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:25a speed increase?
40:26So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:27a speed increase?
40:28So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:35a speed increase?
40:36So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:37a speed increase?
40:38So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:39a speed increase?
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40:41a speed increase?
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40:43a speed increase?
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40:45a speed increase?
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40:47a speed increase?
40:48So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:49a speed increase?
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40:51a speed increase?
40:52So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:53a speed increase?
40:54So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:55a speed increase?
40:56So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:57a speed increase?
40:58So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
40:59a speed increase?
41:00So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:07a speed increase?
41:08So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:12a speed increase?
41:13So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:14a speed increase?
41:15So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:16a speed increase?
41:17So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:18a speed increase?
41:19So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:20a speed increase?
41:21So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:22a speed increase?
41:23So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:24a speed increase?
41:25So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:26a speed increase?
41:27So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:28a speed increase?
41:29So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:30a speed increase?
41:31So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:32a speed increase?
41:33So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:34a speed increase?
41:35So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:42a speed increase?
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41:44a speed increase?
41:45So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:46a speed increase?
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41:48a speed increase?
41:49So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:50a speed increase?
41:51So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:52a speed increase?
41:53So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:54a speed increase?
41:55So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:56a speed increase?
41:57So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
41:58a speed increase?
41:59So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:00a speed increase?
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42:02a speed increase?
42:03So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:04a speed increase?
42:05So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:06a speed increase?
42:07So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:14a speed increase?
42:15So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:16a speed increase?
42:17So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:18a speed increase?
42:19So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:20a speed increase?
42:21So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:22a speed increase?
42:23So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:24a speed increase?
42:25So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:26a speed increase?
42:27So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:28a speed increase?
42:29So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:30a speed increase?
42:31So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:32a speed increase?
42:33So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:34a speed increase?
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42:36a speed increase?
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42:38a speed increase?
42:39So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
42:53a speed increase?
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42:55a speed increase?
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42:57a speed increase?
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42:59a speed increase?
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43:01a speed increase?
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43:03a speed increase?
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43:05a speed increase?
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43:07a speed increase?
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43:09a speed increase?
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43:11a speed increase?
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43:13a speed increase?
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43:15a speed increase?
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43:17a speed increase?
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43:25a speed increase?
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43:27a speed increase?
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43:29a speed increase?
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43:31a speed increase?
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43:33a speed increase?
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43:35a speed increase?
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43:37a speed increase?
43:38So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
43:39a speed increase?
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43:41a speed increase?
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43:43a speed increase?
43:44So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
43:45a speed increase?
43:46So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
43:47a speed increase?
43:48So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
43:49a speed increase?
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43:51a speed increase?
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43:53a speed increase?
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43:55a speed increase?
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43:57a speed increase?
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43:59a speed increase?
44:00So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:01a speed increase?
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44:03a speed increase?
44:04So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:05a speed increase?
44:06So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:07a speed increase?
44:08So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:09a speed increase?
44:10So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:11a speed increase?
44:12So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:13a speed increase?
44:14So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:15a speed increase?
44:16So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:23a speed increase?
44:24So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:28a speed increase?
44:29So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:30a speed increase?
44:31So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:32a speed increase?
44:33So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:34a speed increase?
44:35So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:36a speed increase?
44:37So, is this the pressure of SIFC, because of which we are seeing a haste, we are seeing
44:38a speed increase?