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- Rana Ihsaan Afzal Khan PMLN
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- Malik Aamir Dogar PTI
- Rana Ihsaan Afzal Khan PMLN
- Dr Farooq Sattar MQMP
Muzakrat Say Inkar Karne Wale Aj Muzakrat kay Muntazir | Aniqa Nisar's Analysis
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, I am Aniqa Nisar with the
00:11program Etiraz-e-Hiksaat.
00:12Viewers, one thing is very clear that at this time, different communities are in contact
00:18with each other.
00:19Pakistan is in contact with the JUI, the government of the JUI and the JUI of the JUI, but one
00:26contact did not take place and that is of the JUI and the government of the JUI.
00:33The government kept inviting the JUI to come and talk to us and the JUI kept saying that
00:41they do not want to talk to you.
00:44What statements were made by different leaders at different times from both sides, listen
00:50to that.
00:52We sat in the office and presented them with the Misaq-e-Mashid and now the government
00:58is presenting them with the Misaq-e-Mohammad again.
01:01We have no personal pride.
01:03Ultimately, whatever they do, they will have to talk to the kings.
01:07We have presented it dozens of times.
01:09We are absolutely sure to talk, we are ready to talk.
01:13Those who have stolen the mandate, they want to talk to them and those who have not stolen
01:17it, they do not want to talk to them.
01:19We have given permission to Mr. Zia, it is his consent, if he wants to do it, he will
01:23definitely do it.
01:24What dialogue do we have with them?
01:26IPPs do not dialogue with them.
01:28We are talking to the establishment.
01:30We are not ready to talk to these three political parties that are part of the government.
01:34There is power here, we will talk to them.
01:36We can talk to the various forces that have the power to make decisions.
01:41Our negotiations, until my leader, my leader, Mr. Imran Khan, Prime Minister Imran Khan
01:46is in jail, there will be no negotiations.
01:48We will have negotiations, but we will have negotiations with the army chief, with the
01:51DGI.
01:53Then the time changed, the weather changed politically.
01:56And with this weather, when we used to say to the government that look, you are ready
02:01to talk, it is a very good thing.
02:03We used to say to the PTI that you sit with the government to talk.
02:07When the political forces decide together that politics will be done by politicians
02:12and political parties will do it, then no other interference can come.
02:16Then we used to say to the PTI.
02:18Then the PTI agreed.
02:19And the PTI said, we are ready to negotiate with everyone.
02:23But then the government's affairs and their feelings have changed.
02:28Listen to that too.
02:30Imran Khan has created a negotiation committee.
02:33And this committee will be empowered to negotiate with everyone.
02:38We would like to do whatever we want to negotiate with an open heart.
02:44I personally think that it should be enough now.
02:47It's enough.
02:48That's it.
02:49Put a stop to everything.
02:50And move forward for the betterment.
02:52Our party believes that there should be negotiations.
02:55Chairman Imran Khan has formed a negotiation team.
02:58This committee is ready to negotiate with everyone.
03:01Come on, you are our brother.
03:03There will definitely be political differences.
03:05There should be.
03:06This should not be personal enmity.
03:07On May 9, all the red lines were crossed.
03:09Even a reconciliator like me cannot do anything today until their decision is made.
03:13We have been saying that we don't want to talk to thieves.
03:16We want to talk to anyone.
03:18But we don't want to talk to the PMLN.
03:20We don't want to talk to the People's Party.
03:22First, they should issue a certificate that whether we are still thieves or not.
03:26Or they have changed their point of view.
03:29That there is no harm in shaking hands with thieves.
03:31We are talking about this because we are afraid of the charge sheet.
03:36You can neither cancel their charge sheet.
03:39Nor can you save yourself from the death penalty.
03:43They will not let us stop them.
03:46They will not let us stop them.
03:48Today, they used to think that we are thieves.
03:50They used to talk to us behind our backs.
03:52But a conversation is only possible when there is trust in someone.
03:55When there is someone's support.
03:56When someone stands by their words.
03:59On one hand, friendship increases.
04:01When olive branch is shown, on the other hand, that hand is shaken.
04:04And the problem is that this is why Pakistan's politics has come to a standstill.
04:08But there was a confusion whether there would be a conversation with the politicians or not.
04:12Yesterday, Sheikh Waqas Akram clarified this in my program.
04:16That even now, there is no discussion with the politicians.
04:19Now, there is a lot of confusion after this.
04:21First, listen to this statement.
04:23Our stance is the same as it was a year ago.
04:25If you can't deliver, why would I talk to you?
04:27It's common sense.
04:29So, now tell me.
04:31You said, any concerned quarter that can deliver.
04:34And you are saying that the government cannot deliver.
04:36So, try to join these things.
04:38Try to extrapolate mathematically.
04:40I will join and tell you clearly.
04:42I don't know why I am clarifying you again and again.
04:44I want to hear it from your mouth, Sheikh Sahib.
04:46Because I have made it very clear.
04:48I have said that the government cannot talk without the will of the establishment.
04:52So, this has come to light.
04:54That we still don't want to talk to them.
04:56We are moving towards the establishment.
04:57Amir Dogar Sahib is present with us.
04:58Senior Director of Pakistan Movement for Justice.
05:00Rana Ihsan Afzal Sahib is present with us.
05:02He is the coordinator of the Prime Minister.
05:04Thank you very much for joining us.
05:05Amir Dogar Sahib, starting from you.
05:07Today, in Peshawar.
05:09There was a prayer.
05:11You gave the list of those who were known.
05:14And then you said that the rangers.
05:16And all the martyrs.
05:18And all the people of the army.
05:19We are also praying for them.
05:21This happened in Peshawar today.
05:22And you have come back from Peshawar.
05:23Islamabad.
05:24So, now you are in my program.
05:26Tell me this.
05:27The conversation that was to be had with the government.
05:30Is it over now?
05:31Yesterday, from the words of Sheikh Waqas Akram Sahib.
05:33I felt the same way.
05:34In PTI.
05:35Is the leadership of the entire PTI.
05:37On this single page.
05:39On this single line.
05:40Is it converged?
05:41Is it not from the government.
05:42Do you still want to talk to the establishment?
05:47In the name of God.
05:48Thank you very much.
05:50Today.
05:51In Peshawar.
05:52There was a central event.
05:53Which happened on D Chowk.
05:56And in that.
05:57Twelve of our workers were martyred.
05:59And many were injured.
06:01Today.
06:02There were also the heirs of the martyrs.
06:04There were also injured.
06:05There were also children.
06:06There were very sad scenes.
06:09And very emotional.
06:11Today there was a situation there.
06:13And I saw them.
06:14I saw the children of their martyrs.
06:16I saw the innocent children.
06:18Whose parents.
06:20For a right and truth.
06:22They had come.
06:23And they.
06:24They were brutally murdered.
06:26And they were martyred.
06:28And this is a very sad incident.
06:31Of Pakistan's history.
06:33And.
06:34You will see all your life.
06:36That this matter.
06:38Will continue to follow them in the same way.
06:40And they will never.
06:42You will not find a place anywhere.
06:44The answer to this question.
06:46Why did they finally shoot?
06:48As far as you are saying.
06:51That.
06:52The matter of negotiations.
06:54So that.
06:55This.
06:56I personally understand.
06:58That.
06:59Since this television.
07:01And talk shows.
07:02And.
07:03In front of every leader.
07:05The camera comes.
07:06And the question is done.
07:08So with that.
07:09As they say.
07:10As much as the mouth.
07:11And as much as the talks.
07:12Keep moving forward.
07:14Certainly a committee.
07:16Is made by us.
07:17And in that committee.
07:19Two more names have been added.
07:21But on the other hand.
07:23The people of the government.
07:25Who have passed.
07:26Their attitude.
07:27Extremely regrettable.
07:29And they think.
07:31Like now.
07:33Maybe we.
07:35Have come to ask for something.
07:37Or some.
07:39The situation is such that God forbid.
07:41We are asking for some charity from them.
07:43This is arrogance.
07:45This is the mentality.
07:47In their tone.
07:49Who are the stakeholders of the ruling party.
07:51Whose.
07:53You have just heard the conversation.
07:55You keep going up and down.
07:57Sometimes the parties.
07:59On the rise.
08:01Sometimes on the fall.
08:03And with the weather.
08:05Different events also change.
08:07As you said.
08:09A few thoughts were in the weather a year ago.
08:11And in today's weather.
08:13These thoughts have changed.
08:15Talking to the establishment.
08:17Or politics.
08:19Because you are absolutely right.
08:21That a lot of leaders.
08:23This is why there is confusion.
08:25The committee that PTI has made.
08:27It is made to talk to politicians.
08:29What Shibli Faraz is saying.
08:31He is also talking about politicians.
08:33Barrister Gauhar is also talking about this.
08:35Yesterday, the conversation that Sheikh Maqas Akram had.
08:37That and the party.
08:39They are also your secretaries.
08:41So explain to me.
08:43Who do you want to talk to?
08:45So that you can talk further.
08:47Look.
08:49This is not.
08:51This is what came out.
08:53PTI.
08:55Negotiations.
08:57As I said before.
08:59Apart from two or three parties.
09:01This is not written anywhere.
09:03That you have to talk to A.
09:05And not B.
09:07So across the board.
09:09Negotiations.
09:11It means.
09:13It should be done across the board.
09:15And definitely.
09:17It should be meaningful.
09:19Those who have the power.
09:21So definitely.
09:23You also know.
09:25Where is the power?
09:27But I personally think.
09:29Finally.
09:31Negotiations today or tomorrow.
09:33Between political forces.
09:35Should be.
09:37And will be.
09:39Because the political parties.
09:41And political people.
09:43They are still.
09:45Those who say.
09:47Those who say.
09:49They should be.
09:51We should be the ones.
09:53We all know.
09:55Exactly.
09:57Exactly.
09:59Exactly.
10:01Exactly.
10:03Charter of democracy.
10:05You did.
10:07People's party.
10:09Have done.
10:11The rest of the parties.
10:13Have ratified it.
10:15In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful.
10:18You have heard the Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif's clips that the government is inviting us to take the country forward and to have talks.
10:27This has always been the position of the government and it is still the same.
10:31But the thing is, how did it come to talks?
10:34Let's take two weeks ago, 26th November.
10:38His stance was very clear.
10:40He was wearing a shroud and was preparing for the funeral.
10:44And he spoke on the strength of the province, on the resources of the province.
10:50And if the political history of Pakistan, I will not call it a protest.
10:54But it was the most intense protest.
10:57More than 150 to 200 police officers were injured in it.
11:03Police officers were martyred, rangers were martyred.
11:06More than 8 police officers had bullet wounds.
11:0940 cars were burned.
11:11They also killed the shell.
11:12And they were saying the whole do or die, they were saying the final call.
11:18And they did not come back from Islamabad without fulfilling their demands.
11:24When all this system failed, which was their entire planning,
11:29and they tried to drop dead bodies and then do propaganda on it, as they did.
11:37And it is very regrettable if even one life was lost on their side.
11:42And it is also necessary to determine the responsibility of these lives.
11:46Whose responsibility is this?
11:47Why didn't they stop at Sanjrani and all this matter?
11:50So when that incident, the final call, turned into a flop call,
11:54which was their last attempt, when it failed,
11:59now they say that in the parliament, Mr. Khan...
12:03Mr. Khan, I understand what you are saying, that they have come to this point,
12:06that the negotiations are important for them.
12:08But my point is that if you wanted the negotiations,
12:12then the PTI should be relevant for you at this point.
12:15If you want the negotiations to solve the issues of Pakistan,
12:19then they will only go when you are at the point of weakness and PTI is at the point of strength.
12:23As soon as PTI comes to the point of weakness, you will backtrack from that.
12:27So this is your offer of conditional negotiations, right?
12:30No, no, look, there is a big difference.
12:33Look, democratic parties are not violent.
12:36And it is not possible that you shoot,
12:40martyr the police, you are violent,
12:43and you take the law in your hands,
12:46break the order of the High Court,
12:48and then you say that now we are ready for negotiations,
12:52and now these are our new conditions,
12:54and if you do not fulfill these new conditions,
12:58then we will not listen to Pakistan.
13:01But Mr. Ran, I would like to add one thing.
13:04Barrister Gauhar has said that we have no conditions.
13:07There are demands, but no conditions.
13:09Look, Barrister Gauhar has said that we have no conditions.
13:13And just now you were telling about Mr. Waqas Sheikh,
13:16he was saying that we will not negotiate with his government.
13:19So this is also one aspect that you have highlighted,
13:22that there is confusion.
13:24Everyone has a different point of view,
13:26and no one knows what to do.
13:28Look, I have already told you that
13:31if you are threatening that you will attack the economy again,
13:36then look at the stance of the government.
13:38Just now you became violent, you did violence,
13:41and now you are saying that we should negotiate,
13:43and that too under threat, you are negotiating
13:45that we will do civil disobedience,
13:47so we do not understand this.
13:48Mr. Ran, you are talking about civil disobedience,
13:50so I would like to tell you a thought.
13:52Today, Ali Ameen Gannapur has announced that
13:55this call is of Bani PTI.
13:58When will the civil disobedience start?
14:00It was supposed to start from tomorrow.
14:02I have not announced about civil disobedience.
14:04Mr. Khan has announced it on behalf of the party.
14:07There is still no clarity on it.
14:09When there is clarity, then we will do it.
14:11First, we have our conditions,
14:12the release of Imran Khan,
14:13then our mandate,
14:14then the training that he has done.
14:15These are our rights that we are asking for.
14:18Mr. Dogar, civil disobedience was supposed to start from tomorrow,
14:21what was the wait for?
14:23What was the basis on which PTI delayed
14:26the meeting with Mr. Khan?
14:29Is there any wait for orders?
14:32As the CM has said,
14:35we had a long, in-detail,
14:38political committee meeting last night.
14:41There were points in the agenda
14:43regarding civil disobedience.
14:45There is still no clarity on it.
14:48Our point of view is that
14:51we want Imran Khan to be informed
14:54about the political committee.
14:57Then we will take instructions from him
15:00and inform the people
15:03about what to do next.
15:06Is there a meeting with Imran Khan tomorrow?
15:09Mr. Dogar, tell us about it.
15:11Yesterday, in my program,
15:13Mr. Murtaza said that
15:15there is a possibility of meeting
15:18PTI's Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
15:20Is that meeting also being held tomorrow?
15:22Yes.
15:24We have not had a meeting with Mr. Khan
15:27for the past three months.
15:30Obviously, it was not held
15:33because of the circumstances
15:36that have arisen in the last two to three months.
15:39You should understand that
15:42the PTI is running in chaos.
15:45The instructions that Mr. Khan gives
15:48should be followed
15:51and should be followed
15:54by the rest of our honourable people
15:57instead of the political people.
16:00Vukla comes through them.
16:03Vukla has become your political leader.
16:06He is a lawyer.
16:08Barrister Gohar and Salman Akhbar Raja
16:11have become your political leaders
16:14because of the circumstances
16:17that have arisen after 9th May.
16:20Vukla had the protection of a black coat.
16:23He definitely came to the front
16:26and a lot of people emerged
16:29as political leaders.
16:32Barrister Gohar, Salman Akhbar Raja
16:35and many other honourable lawyers
16:38have become your political leaders.
16:41There are certain situations
16:44that arise in the country.
16:47Tomorrow, you will meet Vukla.
16:50Yes, tomorrow we will meet Mr. Vukla
16:53and we will tell him everything.
16:56As far as Mr. Fazlur Rahman is concerned,
16:59we are in contact with him.
17:02Mr. Achak Zahid and Mr. Raja Nasir Abbas
17:05are also expected to meet tomorrow.
17:08We support Mr. Fazlur Rahman's
17:11position regarding registration.
17:14When he voted for a bill
17:17and it passed,
17:20the bill is still hanging.
17:23The government is bringing
17:26a joint session in 2-3 days.
17:29It is possible that
17:32we will discuss the agenda
17:35of the joint session tomorrow.
17:38Mr. Achak Zahid has also told you
17:41to keep the civil disobedience
17:44issue on the back burner.
17:47Exhaust the other avenues.
17:50Is PTI inclined to listen
17:53to them?
17:56There are many options
17:59to discuss with Mr. Asad.
18:02Political leaders
18:05talk to them
18:08from their point of view.
18:11I was in touch
18:14with Mr. Asad
18:17when I was in Multan
18:20and today I have reached Peshawar.
18:23I spoke to Mr. Asad
18:26yesterday.
18:29When we meet tomorrow,
18:32we will discuss Mr. Zahid's
18:35exact position.
18:38Mr. Rana,
18:41you said that you have
18:44kept the civil disobedience issue
18:47on the back burner.
18:50You said that you want to discuss
18:53this issue with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
18:56Will the attitude of the government
18:59change with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf?
19:02First of all,
19:05PTI was exposed.
19:08They gave a call
19:11and Mr. Khan was clear
19:14about the civil disobedience issue.
19:17But their community thinks
19:20that PTI will not normalise
19:23the issue.
19:26This community is very
19:29aggressive against national interests.
19:32I will say that if they call off the issue,
19:35it will be another defeat
19:38for PTI's plan.
19:41But it will be a positive thing.
19:44You cannot normalise
19:47the issue.
19:50You cannot normalise the issue
19:53after the violent protests
19:56on 26th November and the malicious
19:59propaganda against state institutions.
20:02You cannot normalise the issue
20:05after 9 months.
20:08The law will take its due course.
20:11So, all the ways to normalise
20:14the issue will be different.
20:17I am saying that the law will take
20:20its due course.
20:23It will work in parallel.
20:26If the civil disobedience issue
20:29is called off,
20:32we will consider it a positive step.
20:35They will realise that they do not
20:38have the power to normalise the issue.
20:41It is obvious.
20:44They have failed in civil disobedience.
20:47They know that no one will listen to them.
20:50Instead of putting themselves in a failure,
20:53they will come out of it.
20:56It is a good thing.
20:59It is a good thing.
21:02It is a good thing.
21:05It is a good thing.
21:08Our doors are open.
21:11It will be a positive gesture.
21:14The law will go on.
21:17There will be no obstacles.
21:20Parliament is the same platform.
21:23You can debate on that platform.
21:26You can have discussions.
21:29We do not reject this.
21:32There should be discussions.
21:35who will who will build the cat
21:37situation
21:39they say do the negotiations, you say no
21:41you say do the negotiations, they say no
21:43my biggest problem is that one person
21:45raises his hand, the other person shakes his hand
21:47this is not on
21:49there will be no negotiations like this
21:51look, the negotiations of 26th November
21:53which I told you
21:55no no no
21:57I am saying that those things
21:59you can say that it was an attempt
22:01to take over Islamabad
22:03it was an attempt
22:05to bring down the system
22:07that you
22:09had to free Mr. Khan
22:11with your own strength
22:13you failed in that
22:15so now you are saying
22:17to come to the negotiations
22:19so the negotiations should be done
22:21but we will also see
22:23how to proceed
22:25I would like to come to
22:27Maulana Fazlur Rehman
22:29you said that you are discussing
22:31with Maulana Fazlur Rehman
22:33regarding the PTI
22:35now the problem is that
22:37there is a clear division
22:39regarding the Madaris
22:41on one side there are 18,060 Madaris
22:43which are already registered
22:45under the education ministry
22:47on the other side the government
22:49has ignored all those things
22:51and made a promise to Maulana
22:53and now Maulana is showing
22:55that promise to the government
22:57PTI, in any case
22:59see
23:01the first thing that my dear
23:03is saying that
23:05PTI
23:07is doing something
23:09against the interest of the country
23:11see, bigger than PTI
23:13there can be no patriotism
23:15of this country
23:17every child knows this
23:19and that is why today
23:21this nation agrees
23:23with PTI and Imran Khan
23:25on their leadership
23:27he is the most accepted leader of history
23:29even today
23:31no matter what kind of election
23:33they do, poll
23:35survey
23:37referendum
23:39and keep the box in any corner of the city
23:41I claim that out of 100
23:4395 people will only say Imran Khan
23:45and in such a situation
23:47such a patriotic party
23:49such a leader
23:51to say that we are talking
23:53against the interest of the country
23:55you didn't tell me
23:57that to demand
23:59your snatched mandate
24:01is this
24:03a place of national interest
24:05demand, protest
24:07where is your right?
24:09listen to me
24:11protest is a parameter
24:13no
24:15what
24:17the empty handed workers
24:19on 26th
24:21were brought
24:23the government
24:25used their power
24:27without any mercy
24:29and instead of
24:31political support
24:33they can't support
24:35because they are the government
24:37based on form 47
24:39but at least
24:41think about it
24:43has this ever happened to anyone?
24:45tomorrow
24:47may be
24:49but this was extreme
24:51I will take his answer
24:53from Mr. Rana
24:55Mr. Rana
24:57Mr. Rana's
24:59opinion
25:01is that
25:03I had a thorough
25:05discussion
25:07Mr. Mohsin Naqvi
25:09Mr. Law Minister
25:11Mr. Bilawal Bhutto
25:13and after that all the bills
25:15especially the Madaras
25:17registration bill
25:19Mr. Rana
25:21talked about it
25:23for a long time
25:25and when that bill
25:27was put in the assembly
25:29and when it was voted
25:31and when it was approved
25:33and when it goes to the President
25:35Mr. Rana doesn't care
25:37about that bill
25:39I have 30 seconds
25:41Mr. Rana respond
25:43we are with Mr. Rana
25:45on this
25:47different issues of the country
25:49has a one point agenda
25:51of opposition against the government
25:53we will make a grand
25:55consensus with Mr. Rana
25:57so that we can move forward
25:59and give tough time to the government
26:01Mr. Rana response
26:0330 seconds
26:05first thing is that in the era of PTI
26:07under the education ministry
26:09the Madaras registration bill
26:11was approved and it became a new system
26:13so it is surprising
26:15that you are engaging with Mr. Rana
26:17against the same
26:19but the thing is very simple
26:21we are sympathetic with Mr. Rana
26:23we have
26:25passed the bill
26:27from both the assemblies
26:29but after that
26:31the President
26:33had to sign off
26:35but due to legal issues
26:37we want a consensus
26:39we are sympathetic with Mr. Rana
26:41we are engaging with him
26:43let's see what happens on 17th
26:45Mr. Rana Ahsan Afzal
26:47thank you very much
26:49we will go to the break
26:51after the break
26:53MQM has a lot of complaints
26:55on one hand
26:57the two parties are increasing
26:59the challenges of the government
27:01so what will MQM do
27:03and the governor news
27:05after my program
27:07the response of MQM
27:09Dr. Farooq Sattar
27:11welcome back after the break
27:13if the government is the government
27:15then it is under the influence of its allies
27:17and there is some confusion
27:19in the allies
27:21first we saw Pakistan People's Party
27:23complaining in Punjab
27:25now there are some statements
27:27from MQM
27:29after which the question is
27:31how long will the government
27:33be a part of the alliance
27:35and to what extent
27:37because the promises
27:39that were made to MQM
27:41were also made to MQM
27:43and in my program
27:45Dr. Farooq Sattar
27:47gave a breaking
27:49that in Article 140A
27:51there is a promise of amendment
27:53and now the 27th amendment
27:55will be based on this
27:57so let's talk about this
27:59and some statements
28:01of Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui
28:03are coming
28:05and in my program
28:07Dr. Farooq Sattar
28:09gave a breaking
28:11that the governor is going to leave
28:13and which governor
28:15he didn't mention
28:17but when Mr. Kamran Tassori
28:19came in
28:21people started saying
28:23that maybe he is not a thief
28:25Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui
28:27said
28:29listen
28:37listen
28:51listen
28:53listen
28:55listen
28:57listen
28:59listen
29:01listen
29:03listen
29:05listen
29:07listen
29:09listen
29:11listen
29:13listen
29:15listen
29:17listen
29:19listen
29:21listen
29:23listen
29:25listen
29:27listen
29:29listen
29:31listen
29:33and very lively. And our anchors also get a chance to ask questions. And of course,
29:43people are also interested. So I say, what did they say at the end of those sentences?
29:49Their aim was to say that if they are doing so much work, many federal universities,
29:55their campuses and chapters are now being brought to Karachi. Because Karachi,
29:59which nurtures Pakistan, runs it, gathers so much revenue and gives it. So if there are
30:07so many universities in Wafaaq, there are chapters of Wafaaq in different cities of Punjab.
30:13So there should be some in Karachi so that there should be some in Sindh also. So if we
30:17are not here tomorrow, suppose, after completing those five years, God willing,
30:21or God forbid, if there is such an opportunity, see when it comes to ifs and buts,
30:26then we should not take any meaning out of it.
30:29By the way, Doctor, we have a lot of statements from PTI and PMLN. So Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui
30:36gives us such statements less, on which anchors can play. So if they have said something like
30:40this, then it means that basically, there is something black in it.
30:47No, no, there is nothing black in it, nor is there any smoke. If there is smoke,
30:50then it seems that someone has come somewhere. So these are not the situations of both.
30:54So MQM will remain stubborn with the government?
30:56But see, if they bring up different imaginative situations, their aim was to create seriousness
31:03about these institutions, which are finally coming to Karachi. And the students of Karachi
31:08and the students of Sindh will also get a chance to study there. So they are simply saying
31:12that its ownership, when people of the business community, when there is textile engineering,
31:16there is a textile university chapter. So see, we have to collaborate with our industry,
31:23with our academy, that we are coming after studying.
31:26So Doctor, you are saying that there was a way to bend the government's arm,
31:31there was a way to threaten, to show the eyes.
31:34You take it more, that if the water of Pakistan's politics is very stagnant,
31:40then people do not enjoy it. So put a little stone in it.
31:43So is MQM enjoying now, Doctor?
31:45Anchors are also enjoying, media is also enjoying, there is nothing behind it.
31:50But there is time to enjoy, Doctor.
31:52I said, take it to the extent of enjoying, but there is nothing behind it.
31:56So you are saying this.
31:58I am talking with a lot of confidence, that they said something,
32:01those two sentences became like that, which in the end, if you do not link with it,
32:06then you will feel that your question was right in its place.
32:09If I say that MQM is not separating from the government,
32:13it was a part of unity, and it is, and it will remain. Is that true?
32:17If MQM says that we will not remain a part of the government,
32:20or we have any such intention, then I will answer your question.
32:23We have not said anything like that.
32:25But before making an announcement, there are a lot of things and stages, Doctor.
32:29No, no, no. You see, I said throw a little stone, that's it, what else?
32:33Anyway, the promise that was made to us, that first, after the 26th, MQM.
32:38I have come to that.
32:40The real issue is that we have pressure on us.
32:42So my question is this.
32:44My question is this.
32:45You said that we are enjoying a little, so there is time to enjoy.
32:49Now is the time when the government is stuck first.
32:51On the other hand, the PTI people are saying, civil disobedience,
32:54Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib is saying that a promise was made to us,
32:56in reference to the registration of the Madrasas' bill.
32:59And on the other hand, our allies are saying that a promise was made to us,
33:03now everyone is enjoying, so let us enjoy too.
33:05So this is not the work of the allies, it is the work of the opposition.
33:08No, look, the opposition has the power and the right,
33:11and by going beyond that, by destroying the national institutions,
33:16they enjoy too.
33:17Because they think that my survival is in this,
33:19that if a good bill comes, which is beneficial to the people,
33:23which is an old commitment, all the basic contents of the 26th MQM,
33:27even the PTI had an agreement on that, but they made an opposition.
33:31And on that, they played it up so much,
33:33that it felt like, I don't know,
33:35what kind of laws and regulations are coming,
33:39so that, look, even the judiciary, I think,
33:42as long as they had this opportunity,
33:44they took their position on that.
33:48But when a bill came from the parliament,
33:52it was easily transitioned,
33:54a new chief justice came, Mansoor Ali, all these things.
33:57But doctor, it didn't happen easily.
33:59No.
34:00The letters and letters are still going on.
34:01No, look.
34:02And a very big movement, which is silent at the top,
34:06is still spreading in the Supreme Court, unfortunately.
34:08Look, it is obvious that people with different minds,
34:12people with different thoughts, people with different views,
34:14people with different approaches, people who perceive the situation,
34:17everyone has their own arguments.
34:20But in all this, I tell everyone,
34:22that no one is 100% wrong and no one is 100% right.
34:26And everyone should understand,
34:28that our past is not very far removed from mistakes.
34:33But doctor, I will deduce from this.
34:35There are institutions, there are political parties,
34:38there are leaders of political parties,
34:40everyone has made mistakes on their own.
34:42But I will deduce from this,
34:44that you are not moving away from the government,
34:46you will remain as a member of the government.
34:48So that is it.
34:49But, now the next question.
34:51Now the next question.
34:52Whatever you want to do, do it.
34:54You have defamed us.
34:55This is your program.
34:56You can deduce from it.
34:57No, no, no.
34:58I am deducing from what you are saying.
34:59Okay, now tell me,
35:01this came to me,
35:02on that occasion,
35:03where in my own program,
35:05Faisal Wada Sahab said,
35:07that a chair of a governor is in danger.
35:10No governor said anything.
35:12Kamran Tesori Sahab,
35:14who is the backed governor of MQM,
35:16he suddenly said,
35:18that he keeps talking,
35:20he is an entertainer,
35:21he has spoken.
35:22We will see in 2-3 weeks,
35:23what happens.
35:25Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui Sahab also said,
35:27that if Kamran Tesori Sahab goes,
35:29then whichever governor comes,
35:31will be in trouble.
35:32So is the chair of the Sindh governor,
35:34Kamran Tesori Sahab,
35:36really in danger?
35:37Because this statement came from MQM,
35:39when this came to light.
35:41Look, my objection is,
35:43that when Faisal Wada Sahab
35:45gave such a statement,
35:47then the other 3 governors,
35:49may not have slept that night,
35:51but Kamran Sahab,
35:52slept peacefully that night.
35:54He slept very peacefully.
35:56So I understood,
35:57that Kamran Sahab also wanted to say,
35:59that there is no need to take
36:01Faisal Wada Sahab's words seriously.
36:03He said he is an entertainer,
36:05whereas if he had said this,
36:07then the matter would have been the same.
36:09He would have said it simply.
36:11If the statement was given once,
36:13then he would have said it today also.
36:15He felt that he is also enjoying it.
36:17So he said,
36:18when everyone is enjoying it,
36:19then I am also enjoying it.
36:20Why are you enjoying the politics of Karachi?
36:22It's a very serious topic.
36:24There is nothing left.
36:25Look, what I am saying,
36:27you are thinking that,
36:29I am saying it as a joke,
36:31or I am saying it in a non-serious way.
36:33But if you see the pain of the people,
36:35who are hiding behind it,
36:37their sorrows,
36:38their problems,
36:39their difficulties,
36:41then which thing is left,
36:44so that people have hope?
36:47Governor Sindh is such a hope.
36:50In urban Sindh also,
36:52and Alhamdulillah,
36:53in rural Sindh also,
36:54their efforts are going on.
36:55When 50,000 children,
36:57IT institute,
36:58like Karachi,
36:59special initiative of the Governor,
37:01Inshallah,
37:02it was tested in Hyderabad also.
37:03More than one lakh children,
37:05it will start there.
37:06This course,
37:07one year advance of IT,
37:09this is a course of 8 lakh rupees,
37:12one year fee.
37:13In the whole world,
37:14in Pakistan also.
37:15To teach 50,000 children for free,
37:17how much money is being given to Asadza,
37:19what is the mark,
37:20what is the SMD,
37:21International UK and USA professors,
37:24when they teach,
37:25what they take,
37:26you can guess from this,
37:27that in one place,
37:28there is empowerment,
37:29youth empowerment of IT,
37:31and when these children will come out,
37:33Gulf countries,
37:34Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar,
37:36Saudi Arabia,
37:37Oman has booked them,
37:38Point noted.
37:39Point noted.
37:40Point noted.
37:41Point noted.
37:42Point noted.
37:43You are saying,
37:44that is why,
37:45people are attacking,
37:46Samran Bisori.
37:47When foreign remittance will be sent,
37:49then you will say to IMF,
37:52Goodbye IMF,
37:53welcome to IMF,
37:54Karachi Monetary Fund has come,
37:56in the name of these children.
37:57Govt sahib,
37:58Allah will make sure,
37:59that this truck is not repaired.
38:00God will make sure,
38:01that this will not happen.
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45:24you will take all anchors,
45:25from Islamabad,
45:26Allah will make sure.
45:27You come,
45:28you will take all anchors,
45:29from Islamabad,
45:30Allah will make sure.
45:31You come,
45:32you will take all anchors,
45:33from Islamabad,
45:34Allah will make sure.
45:35You come,
45:36you will take all anchors,
45:37from Islamabad,
45:38Allah will make sure.
45:39You come,
45:40you will take all anchors,
45:41from Islamabad,
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45:43You come,
45:44you will take all anchors,
45:45from Islamabad,
45:46Allah will make sure.
45:47You come,
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45:49from Islamabad,
45:50Allah will make sure.
45:51You come,
45:52you will take all anchors,
45:53from Islamabad,
45:54Allah will make sure.
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45:57from Islamabad,
45:58Allah will make sure.
45:59You come,
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46:07You come,
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46:58Allah will make sure.
46:59You come,
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47:03You come,
47:04you will take all anchors,
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47:10Allah will make sure.
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47:26Allah will make sure.
47:27You come,
47:28you will take all anchors,
47:29from Islamabad,
47:30Allah will make sure.
47:31You come,
47:32you will take all anchors,
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47:34Allah will make sure.
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47:38Allah will make sure.
47:39You come,
47:40you will take all anchors,
47:41from Islamabad,
47:42Allah will make sure.
47:43You come,
47:44you will take all anchors,
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47:46Allah will make sure.
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47:48you will take all anchors,
47:49from Islamabad,
47:50Allah will make sure.
47:51You come,
47:52you will take all anchors,
47:53from Islamabad,
47:54Allah will make sure.
47:55You come,
47:56you will take all anchors,
47:57from Islamabad,
47:58Allah will make sure.
47:59You come,
48:00you will take all anchors,
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48:02Allah will make sure.
48:03You come,
48:04you will take all anchors,
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48:06Allah will make sure.
48:07You come,
48:08you will take all anchors,
48:09from Islamabad,
48:10Allah will make sure.
48:11You come,
48:12you will take all anchors,
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48:14Allah will make sure.
48:15You come,
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48:18Allah will make sure.
48:19You come,
48:20you will take all anchors,
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48:22Allah will make sure.
48:23You come,
48:24you will take all anchors,
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48:26Allah will make sure.
48:27You come,
48:28you will take all anchors,
48:29from Islamabad,
48:30Allah will make sure.
48:31You come,
48:32you will take all anchors,
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48:34Allah will make sure.
48:35You come,
48:36you will take all anchors,
48:37from Islamabad,
48:38Allah will make sure.
48:39You come,
48:40you will take all anchors,
48:41from Islamabad,
48:42Allah will make sure.
48:43You come,
48:44you will take all anchors,
48:45from Islamabad,