"No Doubt We Support the Government, We Just Don't Want the Country to Reach a Dead End," PPP Leader
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00:00Please tell us, Ms. Shizra, if you have an opinion about this Jamaat, that they are corrupt and criminal,
00:07that this Jamaat is a terrorist group, that you have announced a ban on them,
00:11then what are you sitting under? Why are you negotiating with them?
00:16Look, in a parliamentary-democratic system, negotiations are necessary with everyone.
00:22It's not a matter of today. When they were in government, we were in the opposition,
00:28we said that they should come for economic settlement, let's go together.
00:32When we were in government and opposition, we still said the same thing.
00:36But they always sent the message that they only want to negotiate with the establishment.
00:41They only want to negotiate with the establishment.
00:44Finally, when they used all their power and they failed.
00:48They tried to attack Islamabad again and again.
00:51They somehow managed to get out of there.
00:53They came out with a shroud on their heads.
00:55They raged a lot.
00:56But gradually, we found out that people are fed up now.
00:59Their own employees have also left.
01:01They are completely disappointed and have become hateful.
01:05So now they said, finally, let's negotiate.
01:08Look, in negotiations, their leader, whoever he is, is corrupt,
01:12whoever he is, he is going through the judicial process and he is being punished for it.
01:16But there is no doubt that the whole community is a cult.
01:19The community is not a political community.
01:21But still, we understand that their share, which is in the parliament,
01:25should be negotiated with them for the sake of the people, for the sake of Pakistan,
01:29for the sake of the improvement of Pakistan.
01:31There should be a discussion on policy.
01:33They are very clear.
01:34They say that when we move forward in negotiations,
01:36our top priority will be our leader's release because he is in prison.
01:40You are very clear that the release will be under the judicial process.
01:43What does it have to do with us?
01:45Then how will the negotiations go ahead practically?
01:49Look, they will have to think about it.
01:51If they want to negotiate only for NRO, then of course the negotiations cannot go ahead.
01:57But if they want to negotiate for the betterment of the country, for the betterment of the people,
02:02talk about reforms and talk about future policy making,
02:07make fun of their role as an opposition,
02:12maintain their role in the parliament,
02:15accept the supremacy of the parliament,
02:17then it will go ahead.
02:19As far as they talk about the election,
02:21whenever they do not win any election,
02:24it is their service to make that election questionable.
02:28They started with 35 punctures.
02:30They said that it is a political statement.
02:32Then they opened four rings.
02:34They lost again in all four rings.
02:36And the richest election of 2018,
02:40apart from RTS, they liked it.
02:42Now it is the same thing again.
02:44They accepted our mandate the day they sat at the table of negotiations.
02:49Okay, you stay here. I will go to Amritsar.
02:51Now this is very interesting.
02:53Your interpretation is that they accepted our mandate the same day when they sat in front of us in the negotiations.
02:57What they have to say is that there is no one more successful than us
03:00who they went to ban,
03:02whose picture was banned,
03:04who was called Qusayf Irena.
03:06It is a very interesting interpretation.
03:08I will come to you.
03:10But Mr. Amritsar, first you tell me,
03:12the news that comes,
03:14is it true that the People's Party
03:16is not only a part of the government,
03:18as a collective,
03:20but their attitude towards you,
03:22although you are technically a part of the treasury benches,
03:24or in that respect, you are not a part of the government,
03:26you are not officially a member,
03:28but whatever attitude you should have,
03:30you are not satisfied with that at all.
03:32And many times you have thought about this,
03:34or your group has a clear opinion,
03:36that whatever support we are giving to this system,
03:38to this government, we should step back.
03:40Is this right, Mr. Amritsar?
03:44No, I think it is not like that.
03:46Okay.
03:48The way you are understanding it,
03:50we are their supporters,
03:52there is no doubt about it.
03:54And we just want that the country
03:56does not go towards a closed lane.
03:58For politics, the roads should remain open.
04:00And the system should be able
04:02to bring improvement in it.
04:04It should continue to run.
04:06The system should not derail.
04:08The Pakistan People's Party
04:10is supporting them.
04:12The rest depends on the Noon League
04:14as to how they behave
04:16with their supporters
04:18or their allies.
04:20There is no doubt about it.
04:22But Mr. Murtaza,
04:24Mr. Murtaza,
04:26the Noon League government
04:28is sitting here.
04:30If you make a mistake tomorrow,
04:32the system will fall.
04:34So, you will take full responsibility tomorrow.
04:36This is not right.
04:38Because it can be seen that
04:40where there is a mistake,
04:42you say that it is their government,
04:44what can we do?
04:46And where there is good,
04:48you take full blame.
04:50Whatever is good or bad.
04:52This is what the Pakistan People's Party
04:54is saying.
04:56If you do not take the decisions
04:58of the Pakistan People's Party
05:00on board,
05:02or if they do it
05:04without their support,
05:06then you take responsibility
05:08and say that these decisions
05:10are not theirs, they are ours.
05:12So, do you take them on board or not?
05:14Listen to me.
05:16Because we have to bear
05:18the same decisions tomorrow.
05:20They are good or bad.
05:22There will be advantages and disadvantages.
05:24If we have to bear the same,
05:26then we should be on board.
05:28We should know that
05:30we have committed this crime.
05:32We are partners in crime.
05:34So, the Pakistan People's Party
05:36never runs away from this.
05:38We openly say that
05:40we are sharing the burden.
05:42The situation is such
05:44that all of us should be together.
05:46We have also told Tehreek-e-Insaf
05:48to come and
05:50sit together and take decisions
05:52that are not theirs.
05:54But Mr. Murtaza,
05:56you should take responsibility
05:58for some things.
06:00For example,
06:02in every press conference,
06:04people's party,
06:06Mr. Sharjeel,
06:08Mr. Aiwan,
06:10you have made a motorway
06:12from Karachi to Sukkur.
06:14You have made a motorway
06:16from Karachi to Sukkur.
06:18You have made a motorway
06:20from Karachi to Sukkur.
06:22In the past, you have
06:24made a project
06:26without the PPP's.
06:28You should have made it.
06:30You are running around
06:32telling the central government
06:34to make this and that.
06:36You have been in power
06:38since my childhood.
06:40You should make it.
06:42I am not sure
06:44if you are laughing
06:46because you are in power.
06:48They are laughing at both the things, don't worry.
06:51Mr. Benami, the request is that if they had said that Pakistan's resources were going out of their pockets, then we would have said that yes.
07:04The voice is off, that's not what Mr. Murtaza is saying.
07:06The voters of the Pakistan People's Party are not taxpayers, do they not have any right to vote for them?
07:20If the government makes electricity and gives it to Faisalabad, does that mean that Faisalabad has no right?
07:28So when you were in power, you also wanted to make electricity from taxpayers' money, not from your own pocket.
07:35This is a part of the energy tax, the energy tax of the Pakistan People's Party.
07:42It was not of PMLN, it was not of Asif Ali Zardari either.
07:48Asif Ali Zardari was going to do all this.
07:52A program is still going on, the energy projects are still going on.
08:01The rest of the things should be for all the provinces.
08:05I don't think this is a service to loyalty.
08:10Mr. Aleem Khan said that Sindh should have been built on its own.
08:14He said that you should have built it in your government, what's wrong with that?
08:21I say that during the government from 2008 to 2013,
08:28Asif Ali Zardari's CPEC program, it takes time.
08:35These are mega projects, it's not a one-week, ten-day program.
08:39That program is still going on.
08:42And I say that even if that doesn't happen,
08:45does that mean that Sindh has no right to Pakistan's resources?
08:49He said that he will build it this year, he has promised.
08:53If he has promised, then it was necessary to say what he has said.
08:57I think he has said a small thing, he has said a small thing of his own.
09:01Let him apologize.