"Many people want PTI gone and the founder out of the picture." Salman Akram Raja

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00:00As I said, there has been a lot of talk about this and there is a lot of controversy as well.

00:05Sir, I would like to ask for clarity.

00:07First of all, it is clear that the army chief who went to Peshawar and met the political supporters,

00:13Gandapur sir was also there, from the PTI.

00:15From there, there was Afid Naeemur Rahman sir, etc. etc.

00:18And Gauhar sir was also there. So, he was there in that meeting.

00:21This is the only meeting that Gauhar sir had or has there been any other meeting of Gauhar sir with the army chief?

00:30Look, the conversation that Gauhar sir has had in the program of Amit Beet or what Irfan Siddiqui sir has said,

00:38I don't see any contradiction in it.

00:40Okay.

00:41Except that he tried and he was stopped.

00:45If we leave that one thing, then what Irfan Siddiqui sir said and what Gauhar sir said,

00:50it is that there was a big meeting on security issues.

00:54There was a discussion in it.

00:56Whatever the discussion was, it was in the presence of all people.

00:59So, we should stay on this.

01:01A little confusion arose.

01:03You said that it happened because of Mr. Hamid Raza's words.

01:07So, I think that too is not a contradiction with the rest of the things.

01:13He just said that whatever the discussion was in that meeting,

01:17perhaps some people are worried about that.

01:20It is possible that some words of praise have been spoken about a party

01:26or a role has been indicated about the future.

01:30Many people want the existence of PTI to end.

01:34Mr. Imran Khan should move away from the scene.

01:37So, I understand that in our system, it is understood that PTI is the biggest political power in the country.

01:44Imran Khan is the biggest political figure in the country.

01:48So, if this confession comes from any point of view,

01:53then some people get upset or they get worried.

01:58So, you are saying that there is no self-contradiction in this.

02:04That there was only one meeting and there was no separate meeting with Gauhar sir's army chief.

02:10Am I understanding you correctly?

02:12Yes, I am understanding this on the basis of these three statements and I will stay on this.

02:17There is no contradiction in these three statements.

02:20Mr. Hamid Raza, Mr. Imran Siddiqui and Mr. Gauhar.

02:23And sir, even apart from these statements, you being the party secretary general or a senior leader,

02:29so obviously, if there is a separate meeting of your party's supreme leader and the head of the army,

02:36in which the political aspects are also discussed,

02:39then obviously you are also informed about it.

02:42Am I saying this correctly?

02:45Look, it is possible that I am informed, it is possible that I am not,

02:50but that is such an area where I think it is a good thing to keep an eye on a political action.

02:56We should keep the possibilities in front.

02:59All the parties at the moment want the matter to move forward,

03:04and there should be discussion on different levels.

03:07And we think there is nothing wrong in this.

03:11Whatever level we are discussing, we are doing it on a political level,

03:15we are doing it formally, we are doing it informally, we are doing it openly,

03:19we are doing it on the sidelines.

03:22So let this discussion take place.

03:24It is a political action.

03:26It is very difficult to take a very clear position on this at the moment.

03:30Maybe for you, you will want unity, you are a journalist, you will want scope.

03:35But as a responsible person who has a connection with this action,

03:40I think some things should be left out.

03:44Some things should be left out.

03:46Yes, obviously.

03:47And also because an informed journalist can do a much better analysis.

03:54And your saying that let some things remain in the public domain,

04:00I am doing it in my own way.

04:03My opinion can be wrong or right.

04:05Whatever analysis I am doing, if there is a journalist sitting somewhere,

04:08I will analyze it.

04:09Today, there is no such position.

04:11One more thing.

04:12Because one of the reasons for the confusion was that

04:15if he was in a meeting on purely security issues,

04:20it is clear that Mr. Gandapur is the chief executive of the province,

04:25but Mr. Gauhar was not the chief executive of any other party.

04:30This was one of the reasons.

04:32Did the party nominate these two people to sit in that meeting or what?

04:37Look, Mr. Gauhar is also an MNA from that area, from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

04:43And the MNAs of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, who are elected MPs,

04:49they also represent them.

04:52It is their voice that makes it possible for them to sit there.

04:55Okay.

04:56One more question related to this meeting.

04:58The attitude of the establishment of Pakistan towards PTI,

05:02I am not going into the details of what, why and how you are saying this.

05:06As a whole, do you feel any change in this attitude compared to some time ago?

05:12In a positive sense.

05:14Or do you think they are standing where they were?

05:22Mr. Salman, can you hear me?

05:25Maybe you should take the telephone.

05:27I think the sound is not coming.

05:29The signals have been frozen.

05:31We are trying to find out what the overall situation is.

05:35But you see, they say that there are some things,

05:38I mean, there is one thing in which they have contradicted us,

05:41that it is not like that, it is not like that.

05:43Mr. Salman Aqam Rai is saying that if you let some things be wrapped up,

05:47then it is good.

05:49If you let some things be wrapped up, then it is good.

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