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00:00:30Welcome to EarthX TV.
00:00:37In this two-part series, we will be exploring a bold and hopeful idea for the future, the
00:00:42creation of an equitable, nature-positive, and carbon-neutral world.
00:00:47I am Dr. Harvey Locke, and I will be your host on this journey of ideas.
00:00:53Big problems like climate change, the serious decline of nature, which is often called biodiversity,
00:00:59and the growing inequalities of our world have created turbulent conditions for this
00:01:04century.
00:01:05The COVID-19 pandemic has heightened the sense of uneasiness that many people are feeling.
00:01:12Something is deeply wrong.
00:01:15We are off course.
00:01:17How can we solve these big problems?
00:01:20A wide variety of environment, business, and human development organizations think there
00:01:25is a positive way forward.
00:01:27In this series, we will talk with people from around the world about the challenges and
00:01:32opportunities we face in integrating global goals for the climate, for nature, and for
00:01:37human development.
00:01:39We will explore ideas with leading scientists, indigenous people, young people and elders,
00:01:45business people, and government leaders about how to create an equitable, nature-positive,
00:01:51and carbon-neutral world.
00:01:53But first, let's hear from legendary British television personality, Sir David Attenborough,
00:01:58who has spent his life studying nature and sharing the wonders of the natural world with
00:02:03TV viewers.
00:02:11The living world is a unique and spectacular marvel.
00:02:16Billions of individuals of millions of kinds of plants and animals, dazzling in their variety
00:02:24and richness, working together to benefit from the energy of the sun and the minerals
00:02:32of the earth, leading lives that interlock in such a way that they sustain each other.
00:02:43We rely entirely on this finely-tuned life-support machine, and it relies on its biodiversity
00:02:53to run smoothly.
00:03:00Yet the way we humans live on earth now is sending biodiversity into a decline.
00:03:11The natural world is fading.
00:03:14The evidence is all around.
00:03:17It's happened in my lifetime.
00:03:18I've seen it with my own eyes.
00:03:21This film is my witness statement and my vision for the future.
00:03:27The story of how we came to make this our greatest mistake, and how, if we act now,
00:03:33we can yet put it right.
00:03:39The natural world is in trouble.
00:03:41That means we humans are in trouble too.
00:03:43But we are doing something about it.
00:03:46There are well-known goals for the climate and for human development.
00:03:50For the climate, the Paris Agreement sets the goal for carbon neutrality or net zero
00:03:54carbon by 2050 in order to keep temperature rise below 1.5 degrees.
00:03:59If we meet this goal, we will still have a stable climatic system to live in.
00:04:04For human development, all the countries of the United Nations have embraced the Sustainable
00:04:08Development Goals.
00:04:10These are 17 goals that are designed to empower people, lift the poor out of poverty, and
00:04:15create an equitable world where everyone can live with dignity and have their basic needs
00:04:21secured.
00:04:22If we meet them, the world will be a fairer, happier, and healthier place.
00:04:27To meet these goals depends on nature continuing to function.
00:04:31All human life depends on it.
00:04:33All human activity occurs within nature.
00:04:37Nature literally creates the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.
00:04:42But until now, there has not been a global goal for nature to go with the others.
00:04:47And nature is declining in harmful ways to people and to the rest of life.
00:04:52Now there is a call for a global goal for nature that is nature-positive, to go with
00:04:57our goals for the climate and human development.
00:05:00In this first episode, we will explore the science behind creating a nature-positive
00:05:04global goal for nature, how local communities and Indigenous people are central to this
00:05:09challenge and are getting things done, how businesses around the world have become aware
00:05:14of the need for change and are embracing the idea of a nature-positive global goal for
00:05:19nature, and how governments are responding or leading the way.
00:05:23Co-hosting this episode with me are Akanksha Khatri of the World Economic Forum based in
00:05:28Switzerland and Dene Indigenous leader Stephen Nita from northern Canada.
00:05:33We will begin with a discussion of science and policy to answer a basic question.
00:05:37Why do we need a global goal for nature that is nature-positive?
00:05:48Dr. Marco Lambertini is the Director General of World Wildlife Fund International.
00:05:53He's been a lifelong champion for nature since his Italian boyhood.
00:05:58He served as the Chief Executive of BirdLife International, and he's been a fundamental
00:06:05architect and leader in developing this idea of a global goal for nature that is nature-positive.
00:06:13Also joining me is Dr. Johan Rockström, who is the Director of the Potsdam Institute for
00:06:18the Climate in Germany.
00:06:20He's also Chief Scientist of Conservation International.
00:06:23Dr. Rockström led the development of an idea called Planetary Boundaries, which is
00:06:28about the safe operating space for humanity, how to live on the world without destroying
00:06:32it.
00:06:34And he has also been principally involved in the scientific discussion of what we can
00:06:39call an Earth-systems approach to tackling the challenges that confront us in the 21st
00:06:46century.
00:06:47Welcome, gentlemen.
00:06:49My first question is for Johan, Dr. Rockström.
00:06:54Can you tell us about the global planetary emergency we find ourselves in now, and how
00:06:59do nature and the climate come together in the context of this emergency?
00:07:04Yeah, thanks, and I'm great to be with you.
00:07:07And I think, you know, more and more people across the world understand that we have a
00:07:12climate emergency.
00:07:14We are pushing the global climate system due to burning of fossil fuels and degrading ecosystems
00:07:19to a point where we can no longer exclude crossing tipping points that could undermine
00:07:26livelihoods for hundreds of millions of people in the world.
00:07:29We've reached 1.2 degrees Celsius warming, the warmest point since we left the last ice
00:07:33age 20,000 years ago, and we're on a journey that would take us to 3, 4 degrees Celsius
00:07:39warming just in 80 years' time, which is a place we haven't seen for the past 5 to 10
00:07:44million years.
00:07:45But science shows much more than that.
00:07:47We are also in a nature crisis.
00:07:50We have since just the 1970s, I mean, during my lifetime, lost 68% of the populations of
00:07:58wild animals on Earth, and we are at risk of undermining, you know, the possibilities
00:08:03of nature to contribute to us people.
00:08:06And not only that, we know today scientifically that nature and climate intimately hangs together.
00:08:13We need healthy nature to have a stable climate, and a stable climate is what determines the
00:08:17possibility of nature to give us food, energy, water, air, life.
00:08:23So that is what leads us to the conclusion, which is a very, very, you know, serious and
00:08:31unprecedented scientific conclusion that we must today acknowledge that we have a planetary
00:08:37emergency, meaning that we are, if we continue the journey as we are on today, we are at
00:08:43risk of pushing the entire Earth system, the state of the planet, nature, and climate together
00:08:50into a state that can no longer support or cannot guarantee the support of future generations.
00:08:56So that's where we are today.
00:08:58The good news is that science is able to warn humanity in time.
00:09:03There is still light in the tunnel to turn this around.
00:09:06Marco, would you explain the nature positive concept and the need for a global goal for
00:09:14nature that comes into this conversation at a global scale?
00:09:18Harvey, for sure, with pleasure.
00:09:21So a global goal for nature defines what is needed to halt and reverse today's catastrophic
00:09:28loss of nature as Jan explained.
00:09:31In other words, our North Star, Southern Cross, our humanity's compass to protect and restore
00:09:36nature for the benefit of people and all life on Earth.
00:09:40We have a clear goal on climate to address climate change.
00:09:43It's about limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees by becoming a carbon neutral net zero
00:09:49emission society by 2050.
00:09:51We need a global goal also to halt and reverse nature loss.
00:09:56Climate and nature, as Jan said, are the two interdependent sides, if you like, of today's
00:10:01ecological crisis.
00:10:03And the global goal for nature is what we define as a nature positive goal by 2030,
00:10:08which is achieved through net zero loss of nature from a 2020 baseline, starting from
00:10:13the baseline of last year, and reaching a net positive result by the end of the decade
00:10:17through nature restoration agenda.
00:10:20In simpler words, we basically need to stop losing nature now and restore what we can
00:10:27so that by the end of the decade, we actually have more nature than we have now, not less.
00:10:33So such a shared and clear time bound goal on nature is also key to align everyone to
00:10:40the same level of ambition so that governments, businesses, investors, consumers can all contribute
00:10:45to achieving it and be held accountable for it.
00:10:50And the global goal needs to decline in specific targets.
00:10:53Targets about natural spaces, at least protect 30% of land in the ocean, manage sustainably
00:10:58the rest.
00:10:59Targets on species, curb unsustainable wildlife trade, overexploitation of wildlife from land
00:11:04and fishes in the ocean.
00:11:07And the targets about footprint, perhaps the trickiest but also crucial.
00:11:10This is about greening the key economic sectors that drive nature loss today, particularly
00:11:16the big five sectors, agriculture, fishing, forestry, infrastructure, and extractives.
00:11:22And green the financial flows, redirect finances to support nature positive transitions of
00:11:28these sectors.
00:11:30So that's the goal and that's the plan.
00:11:34Thanks Marco.
00:11:35Johan, can you, Marco has explained that the idea of the nature positive goal is to do
00:11:40something that sort of mirrors the climate architecture so that we can sort of bring
00:11:44this all together.
00:11:45And of course we have the other goal of human equitable development in the mix too.
00:11:50But I wonder if you could just for the moment specifically talk about sort of how this architecture
00:11:55of this global goal for nature, nature positive idea sort of mirrors the climate architecture
00:12:01so that the two could be woven together this year when we have these big important global
00:12:05convention meetings coming.
00:12:07No, I mean, to put it quite simple, the scientific arguments behind 1.5 apply also for nature.
00:12:17We live on one planet.
00:12:18We have a finite atmosphere and climate system.
00:12:22So it gives us a finite space and translates into a budget.
00:12:27That's why we have to be at zero at 2050.
00:12:30Nature is also a finite asset supporting humanity.
00:12:35There's just a limited amount of land and nature-based ecosystems on land.
00:12:40And up till now, we have transformed 50% of land-based natural ecosystems, wetlands, grasslands,
00:12:47rainforest, temperate forest into agriculture, urban areas, cities, streets, and infrastructure.
00:12:55And we today have unequivocal, so strong scientific evidence that it is nature.
00:13:00It is the natural ecosystems on the planet that helps us to keep the climate stable and
00:13:07that enables us to have all our services that we depend on.
00:13:11So quantifying a global target for nature has the same scientific justification as a
00:13:17global target for climate.
00:13:19And that, you know, 50 years back, you could really argue that it was very difficult to
00:13:25know where that nature target should be.
00:13:29But today, when we are in such a deep crisis point, when we know with very high degree
00:13:35of certainty that all the remaining nature we have is so fundamental in helping us to
00:13:41keep the whole planet stable, I would argue that it becomes quite, you know, strongly
00:13:47supported scientifically to give a global nature target in terms of exactly what Marco
00:13:54shared here, that we need to actually come to a point of zero loss of nature from now
00:13:58onwards and even restore and come to a nature-positive future.
00:14:03So paradoxically, the crisis in itself can be transformed into a science-based target
00:14:10for nature, just like the climate target is actually a crisis-driven point.
00:14:15I mean, nobody wants to have global warming.
00:14:17The 1.5 is the highest tolerable level beyond which we risk actually damaging livelihoods
00:14:26for so many people on Earth that it's intolerable.
00:14:29It's unacceptable.
00:14:30And the same now applies for nature.
00:14:33We need to restore and regenerate and conserve what is left in order to support us, humanity,
00:14:42on Earth.
00:14:43So this idea of an equitable, nature-positive, carbon-neutral future where we try to bring
00:14:49all these threads together of nature conservation, climate action, human development goals is
00:14:54sort of the new idea that we're sort of exploring in this series.
00:14:59And Johan, I wonder if you could just spend, we've only got a minute or two left, a moment
00:15:04explaining how biodiversity or nature loss causes climate change, not just absorbs it
00:15:10or buffers it, but also causes it.
00:15:13Well, one should start by recognizing that nature is everything we have around us, and
00:15:20nature plays multiple functions.
00:15:23So nature through its biodiversity is the genetic library that enables evolution to
00:15:29exist.
00:15:30Nature is what contributes everything that we have on our plates and in our houses and
00:15:34our lives.
00:15:35So the contributions to people.
00:15:36But fundamentally, nature also is what constitutes what we call ecosystems.
00:15:42When you go out and see a wetland or you see a grassland or if you see a forest or if you
00:15:46see a patch of peatland, that is biodiversity operating right in front of your eyes.
00:15:55And if you look carefully at this nature, it has massive stocks of carbon.
00:16:00It has fundamental possibilities through cycling of water and nutrients to build up biomass.
00:16:07If you look at a tree, it can have hundreds of cubic meters of carbon in its trunks, which
00:16:17is a carbon sink.
00:16:18In the soils, we have more carbon than what we have emitted even by burning fossil fuels
00:16:25on planet Earth.
00:16:26So all of this has to be taken care of and not only restored and regenerated, but also
00:16:31conserved.
00:16:32So nature is the vehicle for stability on Earth and therefore the vehicle for prosperity
00:16:38and equity for humanity on Earth.
00:16:40And this is a kind of a line of production that is today well understood.
00:16:46So gentlemen, thank you so much.
00:16:49This exploration of why nature is the foundation of all human endeavor and also fundamentally
00:16:55important to climate change, I think, is the exciting moment that we find ourselves
00:16:59in.
00:17:00It's also a frightening moment, but it's an exciting moment that we have an integrated
00:17:04idea that could turn the corner if we simply just have the will to get there.
00:17:08So thank you both very much for developing this idea and for sharing it with us.
00:17:13Thank you for having me.
00:17:14Yeah.
00:17:15Thanks, Harvey.
00:17:16I'm very hopeful about the future.
00:17:26I'm an optimist.
00:17:27I'm a global pessimist, but a local optimist.
00:17:30I'm incredibly optimistic.
00:17:33I believe everyone's optimistic.
00:17:34We have to be optimistic.
00:17:36It could be very nice, the future.
00:17:38I do believe that in 50 years from now, we're actually going to be in a better place than
00:17:42we are now.
00:17:46The thing that gives me hope is my kids and my grandkids.
00:17:52This next generation knows how important our environment is to us.
00:17:56They give me hope.
00:17:58For every single contributing problem to the climate crisis, we now have technology solutions
00:18:04that can grow really fast, driven by nothing but market forces.
00:18:11If you are not optimistic, why on earth are you still around?
00:18:16To see things like people here making a decision to buy a different fuel because it helps the
00:18:21environment is so encouraging.
00:18:24I see in my generation even people who are willing to change or who suddenly click.
00:18:32We can enforce, make happen through actions.
00:18:38Those are not hypothetical.
00:18:40Those are real.
00:18:41If we create a better system that makes it even easier to do the right thing, cheaper
00:18:47to do the right thing, more exciting to do the right thing, sexier to do the right thing,
00:18:51people are going to do it.
00:18:52We are the people that pay for things.
00:18:54We are the people that make the decisions.
00:18:56We are the people that can make a difference.
00:18:57I think we all have to be optimistic, but we have to do much better every day because
00:19:03that's a moral responsibility.
00:19:05If we can revive the ancient wisdom, make use of natural resources wisely, we will be
00:19:14able to solve the problem.
00:19:17One country that gives us all reason for optimism is Costa Rica.
00:19:21This Central American country has set strong national goals for nature, the climate, and
00:19:27human development, and is playing a key role on the global stage.
00:19:33Before she became Costa Rica's minister of the environment, Dr. Andrea Meza was the director
00:19:39of that country's inspiring national decarbonization plan.
00:19:44She is also an expert in local development.
00:19:47Now as Costa Rica's minister of the environment, she co-chairs with France the high ambition
00:19:54coalition of more than 50 countries, calling for a global nature conservation target of
00:20:00protecting at least 30% of the world by 2030, both land and ocean.
00:20:06Costa Rica itself has an impressive record of nature conservation and restoration, climate
00:20:13action, and equitable human development.
00:20:16In real ways, Costa Rica is a model of the idea of an equitable, nature-positive, carbon-neutral
00:20:23world.
00:20:24Welcome, Minister Andrea Meza.
00:20:28Thank you, Harvey.
00:20:29I'm so excited of being here and having this conversation about this possibility of having
00:20:36a nature-positive world and the Costa Rican experience.
00:20:40How has your government embraced this goal of a nature-positive world, this global goal
00:20:47for nature, and what does it mean for Costa Rica in actual terms, in concrete terms?
00:20:54Yes, I will say, Harvey, that nature is at the core of the Costa Rican identity.
00:21:01More than 26% of our territory is under protected areas, and we know by experience that having
00:21:10protected areas and having nature as part of our development model is good for the economy,
00:21:18it's good for our welfare, it's good for well-being at the end.
00:21:23And it is around this element of having nature in the heart of our development model that
00:21:31we have been making a lot of progress in the last 30 years.
00:21:37It was 30 and 40 years ago, we were in that discussion of increasing the agriculture frontier,
00:21:49and there was a lot of legislation and a lot of incentives that made people in the
00:21:55rural territories to destroy the forest, because it was like, it was one of the requirements
00:22:04that we needed when you wanted to obtain a land title.
00:22:09Then everything started to change.
00:22:12We knew that there was a lot of deforestation, and at that time we started to make some changes
00:22:20at the policy level, at the regulatory level, and also with the incentives.
00:22:27And it was the time when we decided to consolidate the protected areas, also to put a legislation
00:22:35where land use was prohibited, and also we created an incentive payment for environmental
00:22:45services.
00:22:46So at that time, we realized that we really need to change that approach to development
00:22:53model.
00:22:53And yes, we started to change that path.
00:22:59And certainly with nature, then there, we started to see the benefits and a new industry
00:23:06was created, tourism, but not only tourism, it was also this identity and this element
00:23:13of the country brand.
00:23:15Because at the end, you know, when we are competing in a world with a lot of different
00:23:21commercial elements, nature is part of that country brand in the case of Costa Rica.
00:23:28And that is, I think, also part of this interesting history, because if you talk, for example,
00:23:35with coffee farmers, and we are also doing a lot of different approaches, you know, to
00:23:42make low carbon coffee.
00:23:45And we are doing a lot of different approaches also to try to make this interconnection with
00:23:51different industries, not only tourism.
00:23:55So I understand on that score that Costa Rica has not only been successful with agricultural
00:24:01products tourism, but also in attracting head offices of large companies because of this.
00:24:06Is that right?
00:24:07That is absolutely right.
00:24:09One of the elements with bringing direct investment, foreign investments is, you know, what are
00:24:17the critical elements that we are seeing and what makes Costa Rica a different case?
00:24:24And it is nature, one of these elements.
00:24:27It is this attitude, all these policies with conservation, with sustainability that attracts
00:24:36big companies like Intel.
00:24:40And there's a lot of different companies that are saying, we want to be in Costa Rica, we
00:24:46want to expand our activities out of the different countries.
00:24:52And we choose Costa Rica because of its sustainability and its nature positive also development
00:24:59model.
00:25:00And this is, you know, like a real demonstration that nature and development and well-being
00:25:07and economic growth can be part of this, you know, and that we are not in different opposing
00:25:18these elements.
00:25:20Could you tell us a bit about the high ambition coalition that you co-chair with France in
00:25:25this goal of protecting at least 30 percent of the world by 2030?
00:25:29Yes, the first element is that we are co-chairing this with France and with UK, with United
00:25:36Kingdom as well, because we are working with both of them, especially with UK in the ocean
00:25:41part and with France also in the land part.
00:25:46And science is telling us that we need to protect at least 30 percent of land and ocean
00:25:53in 2030.
00:25:54And this is, you know, a goal, a universal goal that we must adopt in the same way that
00:26:03we adopted the temperature goals in the Paris Agreement.
00:26:07Now we need to adopt some specific goals in the post 2020 framework under the CBD.
00:26:16And this is what we are encouraging.
00:26:18Now more than 50 countries are promoting this goal.
00:26:24And it is at the political level that once we have universal goals, then it's easier
00:26:33to be adopting some national and regional specific policies to align and to really see
00:26:42the transformational change that we need to achieve.
00:26:45We know that sometimes when we see the data, we get scared because we're really destroying
00:26:52nature.
00:26:53And sometimes I think that we feel that we will not be able to achieve the temperature
00:26:59goals.
00:26:59And we have a very connection here, an interlinkage, which is critical.
00:27:06We really need to protect nature if we want to achieve the Paris goals.
00:27:10And we have all the technology and we have the resources.
00:27:14I think that now we need to see the political will to adopt these goals and also to start
00:27:21doing the transformational changes in our economy system.
00:27:26Well, Dr. Meza, it's a daunting prospect to meet the Paris Agreement targets of net
00:27:32carbon neutrality and 1.5 degrees or less and to save life on Earth.
00:27:38But Costa Rica is an inspiring example of the possibility.
00:27:42Thank you so much.
00:27:43You give us all hope and positivity for knowing that something great can be done by a country.
00:27:47And thank you for spreading your energy around the world.
00:27:51Thank you for the opportunity.
00:27:53And I think that it is that we really need to understand that we can do this transformational
00:27:59change.
00:28:09Governments set the rules.
00:28:11Business creates goods and services and wealth within those rules.
00:28:16Unfortunately, too often the rules have encouraged the destruction of nature.
00:28:21So have the subsidies governments have created to encourage economic activity.
00:28:27Now there is a call from many businesses to change the rules, to create a nature-positive
00:28:32operating environment and nature-positive incentives.
00:28:36These companies recognize that business is not an activity separate from nature, but
00:28:41embedded within it.
00:28:43The greatest risk to many businesses is the ongoing destruction of the natural world.
00:28:48We are joined by three experts on business and nature.
00:28:51Eva Zabi is executive director for business and nature and previously spent 15 years with
00:28:57the World Business Council for Sustainable Development.
00:29:00She is an expert on natural capital and on integrated performance management for business
00:29:05across economic, social and environmental goals.
00:29:09Marcelo Bejar is vice president of sustainability and group affairs for Natura & Co in Brazil,
00:29:15the global beauty company that is comprised of Avon, Natura, The Body Shop and Aesop.
00:29:20He served in several roles in the government of Brazil.
00:29:23A business executive since 2009, he is also committed to protecting the Amazon, defending
00:29:28human rights and advancing the idea of a circular economy.
00:29:33Akanksha Katri is the head of the Nature Action Agenda for the World Economic Forum's platform
00:29:39for global public goods.
00:29:41Educated in India and the United States, she also served as chief of staff for the World
00:29:46Economic Forum's regional and global government engagement work.
00:29:51Akanksha will host the next set of interviews, which were conducted at the World Economic
00:29:55Forum's headquarters in Switzerland, with Marcelo joining from London.
00:30:00The world today is facing the intertwined crisis of biodiversity loss, climate change
00:30:08and significant pollution.
00:30:11During the post-pandemic world, we have seen that none of these issues can be seen in silo.
00:30:17In January 2020, the World Economic Forum, in its global risks report, for the first
00:30:23time in its 15-year history, counted the top five risks to be all environmental.
00:30:31Little did we know, a few weeks later, the world will have a severe shutdown as it will
00:30:37be tied together by a pandemic.
00:30:41On the heels of this report, some of us released the Nature Risk Rising Report, identifying
00:30:48that the fears on the minds of the CEOs and other business leaders are not unfounded.
00:30:54That more than half the world's GDP, or 44 trillion US dollars, are moderately or highly
00:31:01dependent on nature and its services.
00:31:04And we've seen such big events as bushfires in Australia, forest fires in California,
00:31:11rising temperatures and declining water tables.
00:31:14This has really raised the economic and social cost of the climate change and nature loss.
00:31:20But the question we are facing today is that this nature loss, has it really reached the
00:31:26boardroom?
00:31:27Are businesses taking it seriously enough?
00:31:30Or are we still on a business as usual trajectory, worried about the short-term economic returns?
00:31:37Are boardrooms waking up to this reality or not?
00:31:41Thanks so much, Akanksha.
00:31:42It's really great to be here.
00:31:45I think the momentum in the business community has never been stronger.
00:31:49And in the past 12 months, sort of in parallel with all of these warning signals that you
00:31:54were talking about, companies around the world are really starting to commit, act and advocate
00:32:02for nature.
00:32:03We know that companies are voluntarily taking actions.
00:32:08The message there is we need to scale and speed up.
00:32:13And in order to scale and speed up, we now need to boost one of our biggest cards, which
00:32:19is the policy ambition.
00:32:21Because if we increase the policy ambition and the regulatory frameworks and create that
00:32:26level playing field for companies, we can drive even more business action on nature.
00:32:32And as an example of this momentum building in the business community, there is a call
00:32:41to action that Business for Nature kicked off last year, which is called Nature is Everyone's
00:32:47Business.
00:32:48And through that, now more than 700 companies with combined revenues of $4.3 trillion are
00:32:56now calling on governments to adopt policies now to reverse nature loss in this decade.
00:33:02And we've never seen that before.
00:33:05Companies literally asking for greater ambition in the policy arena.
00:33:12But then it drills down into the actions.
00:33:15And that's where maybe we'll hear from Marcelo.
00:33:18From Natur & Co, just to talk a little bit about ourselves, it's important to remember
00:33:23that Natur & Co was formed by Natura, a company that is based in Brazil, was founded 50 years
00:33:30ago and operates in the Amazon region for the last 20 years.
00:33:35So what we've seen for quite a while is the deforestation process of the Amazon going
00:33:42more and more and spreading rapidly.
00:33:45So we are trying to take all possible measures that we can to collectively foster collective
00:33:52efforts towards reversing that loss of one of the most important ecosystems on Earth.
00:33:59So nature and the Amazon provides many different possibilities, not only to business, but for
00:34:07society and for mankind as a whole.
00:34:10They are the biggest carbon machines in order to really take all the carbon from the atmosphere
00:34:19and trying to make a new arrangement that will make possible agreements like the Climate
00:34:25One.
00:34:26So what we try to do is to take the collective efforts and build new lines of action, not
00:34:33only with one government, because the Amazon is a problem for the whole region.
00:34:37We have nine countries, nine states only in Brazil connecting the Amazon, hundreds of
00:34:44local governments that must be unified on a common position to revert nature loss.
00:34:50And we have formed something that many businesses participate in the region now, which is a
00:34:56coalition called Consultation for the Amazon, which we are not only part of, but really
00:35:02trying to impose a shift in the business way of development for the region.
00:35:08So trying to arrange nature-based solutions in a way that business can prevail and we
00:35:15don't have to be forced between the contradictory process of having at one side the business
00:35:22being developed in a way that does not take nature into account and on the other side,
00:35:28just seeing nature as something to be preserved and untouched, but in a way that does not
00:35:35take into account the human factor, the people who are inside there.
00:35:39So there is a way to do things in the middle, producing in a sustainable way.
00:35:44And I think we are trying to do that for the last 20 years, having others and enlarging
00:35:50that new perspective of doing business, that it's proved to be something that it's not
00:35:55only carbon positive, but above all, biodiversity and nature positive.
00:36:00So we think that that's possible and we've been trying to give our contribution to that.
00:36:06Thank you so much, Marcelo.
00:36:08I think so effortlessly and also profitably, you and Natura & Co are able to show that
00:36:15in the Amazon, it is possible to bring together the objectives of climate,
00:36:21biodiversity, but also livelihoods.
00:36:24And that's something which we also try to identify in the Future of Nature in Business
00:36:30that if we move towards a net zero nature positive pathway,
00:36:34the businesses have an opportunity of $10.1 trillion.
00:36:39But there is no either or, as you said, we have to look at livelihoods,
00:36:44biodiversity and carbon as joined up objectives.
00:36:48And these transitions also have to happen in the similar fashion.
00:36:53The way we manage our land has significantly deteriorated over the past decades,
00:37:00which have in turn reduced the resilience of our social and political systems.
00:37:05But when talking about these transformations at a macro level,
00:37:10we see that, yes, the transition needs to happen.
00:37:13However, it's also intriguing to see how can businesses actually make that change happen
00:37:20in their boardroom discussions.
00:37:22So hypothetically, if I were a company which is not a primary commodity company,
00:37:27I'm actually in the tertiary sector,
00:37:29but I do want to look at the dependency and impact of my business on nature loss.
00:37:34Help me understand through your experience working with companies in Business for Nature, Eva,
00:37:40what would you advise, say, hypothetically,
00:37:43a CEO of a Fortune 500 company who wants to actually take action for nature?
00:37:49That's the million dollar question, Akanksha.
00:37:52And we can build, though, on decades of work.
00:37:57So it's not the concept of understanding your impacts and dependencies on nature
00:38:03is not a new topic, but it's new to many companies.
00:38:07We have decades of work with guidelines and organisations and initiatives out there to help.
00:38:12The way we've tried to simplify in terms of the high-level steps a company
00:38:18could take on its journey to become nature positive include,
00:38:22to begin with, assess, then commit, act, and advocate.
00:38:28So the assessment piece is really understanding what are your most material impacts,
00:38:34but also dependencies on natural resources
00:38:39and all of the ecosystem services that they provide.
00:38:42Things like not only water, fibre, but also carbon sequestration,
00:38:50pollination, water treatment, and filtration.
00:38:56And so once you've understood as a company across your value chain
00:39:00what those impacts and dependencies are, you can understand, then,
00:39:04what are the potential risks and opportunities for your company
00:39:07and what are the risks and opportunities related to that?
00:39:11So we're talking about the most material impacts.
00:39:14And you need to start with the assessment,
00:39:16for example, using frameworks like the Natural Capital Protocol.
00:39:21But you need to start with that assessment so that the commitments you're going to make
00:39:25are going to be relevant and meaningful.
00:39:29And make sure that they are set within science-based information.
00:39:35Just like we have science-based targets for climate,
00:39:39and thousands of companies are engaged in that, which is brilliant,
00:39:43to make sure that the companies are working within a 1.5 degree scenario.
00:39:50We also now are delighted that there's the science-based targets network for nature,
00:39:55looking at biodiversity, land, oceans, and freshwater.
00:40:00What we need to know as a company, what you need to know is,
00:40:02are you operating within planetary boundaries?
00:40:05Are you doing enough?
00:40:06So when you set a target, 50% reduction, what does that even mean?
00:40:12You need to make sure it's context-specific.
00:40:15And then acting.
00:40:16So just as Marcelo was saying, and you were saying about,
00:40:19how can we reduce, avoid, restore, and regenerate,
00:40:25and then ultimately transform in the actions that a company takes?
00:40:29And nature-based solutions are really an important
00:40:33and potentially transformative area that companies can act.
00:40:38For that, I would say we should really also use as a reference point
00:40:43the IUCN guideline, the new standard on nature-based solutions,
00:40:49because it looks at not only what it means for nature and biodiversity
00:40:55and the habitats,
00:40:56but also what does it mean in terms of climate mitigation and adaptation,
00:41:01and livelihoods, the fact that ultimately,
00:41:05we need to put people at the center in a thriving planet.
00:41:10And then finally, we get to the advocate.
00:41:13And this is a really exciting piece,
00:41:15because for a long time in sustainability,
00:41:19companies have been assessing, committing, and acting.
00:41:24When you get to that really uncomfortable position of saying,
00:41:27well, we need to change the rules of the game,
00:41:32we need to be recognized and rewarded for our performance
00:41:36beyond just financial.
00:41:38Then we talk about changing the regulatory environment.
00:41:42And that's when we talk about a global goal for nature and climate,
00:41:46going towards this nature-positive, net-zero, and equitable world,
00:41:52which is super important for companies.
00:41:54They need to know how they are contributing
00:41:56to that shared vision for people and planet.
00:42:00Thank you so much, Marcello.
00:42:02Thank you so much, Eva.
00:42:03I think this was a fantastic discussion.
00:42:06And yeah, we just hope that we continue to inspire
00:42:09and collectively work towards the same future.
00:42:13The science is clear.
00:42:14Nature is everyone's business, and the next 10 years are critical.
00:42:17We must reverse nature loss before we reach a tipping point
00:42:21from which ecosystems will not recover.
00:42:27We are proud of applying our science to drive innovation
00:42:32that helps reverse nature loss.
00:42:34We are proud of the fact that we are a global company.
00:42:37We are a global company.
00:42:39By recovering waste as a source of energy and a source for raw materials,
00:42:53we are preserving Earth's resources and shaping cleaner cities.
00:42:56The cost of inaction is too high when it comes to nature loss.
00:43:01We believe that we nourish people by nature with very healthy dairy products,
00:43:07but we can only do that if we nourish the planet.
00:43:10We measure the impact on biodiversity at portfolio level
00:43:14and strive for a net positive gain in 2030.
00:43:22We need governments and policymakers to also be transformative
00:43:27and create new laws and frameworks.
00:43:30And of course, in collaboration then with businesses
00:43:34that needs to step up with their actions and their commitments.
00:43:37Only by working together with governments, communities, and societies
00:43:43will we be able to create a healthy planet for everyone.
00:43:47We need to develop and implement frameworks that integrate the value of nature
00:43:52in decision making and global market mechanisms.
00:43:55Policies that make the best available technologies mainstream,
00:43:59transparently measure their impacts,
00:44:01and integrate sustainability into the education system.
00:44:04I welcome rules, regulations which encourage circular economy on the climate
00:44:09and incentivize companies to have a positive impact on biodiversity.
00:44:14We owe it to our stakeholders and to the next generation of stakeholders to protect nature.
00:44:20Our collective future depends on global communities
00:44:23coming together to ensure a greener and more inclusive tomorrow.
00:45:01Action towards creating a nature-positive world is not only in the hands of government and business.
00:45:21It must happen on the ground where people live and with their engagement.
00:45:25Indigenous peoples with their long knowledge of place
00:45:28and traditional stewardship are key to maintaining those parts of the world
00:45:33where nature is still doing well.
00:45:35Local communities are also key to maintaining and restoring nature.
00:45:40Our next three guests have all walked the talk
00:45:42and achieved great things for nature and people in their homelands.
00:45:45And they have received global recognition for their efforts.
00:45:49Their work ranges from protecting intact large wild areas
00:45:53to restoring nature and shared landscapes that provide habitat for rare and endangered species.
00:45:58To restoring degraded watersheds to ensure water supplies and other important benefits
00:46:03such as fuel wood for cooking fires to human communities
00:46:06that live in villages or on small farms nearby.
00:46:10Wanjira Matai has been engaged for over 20 years in the integrated challenges of youth leadership,
00:46:15climate change, sustainable energy and landscape restoration.
00:46:20She is now both vice president and regional director for Africa of the World Resources Institute.
00:46:26She also serves on the board of the World Agroforestry Center
00:46:29and is engaged in the work of the Wanjira Matai Foundation and the Green Belt Movement
00:46:34carrying on the legacy of her Nobel Prize winning mother.
00:46:39Panit Hadisasyoyo is the founding director of the Orangutan Information Center in Sumatra, Indonesia.
00:46:46Through a community integrated approach,
00:46:49Orangutan Information Center has led a number of projects to restore huge swaths of degraded forest
00:46:55to provide habitat for orangutans and other animals.
00:46:59It is pioneering work and it has been successful.
00:47:02Panit also developed a community integrated approach to park management and conservation
00:47:08by engaging local communities in frontline park management tasks.
00:47:12Stephen Nita was raised on the land around Lutsel Cay
00:47:15on the shores of Great Slave Lake in Canada's Northwest Territories.
00:47:19He has served as chief of the Lutsel Cay First Nation
00:47:23and he and his team negotiated establishment agreements
00:47:26for the vast Tai-Dene-Nene Indigenous Protected Area,
00:47:30National Park and Territorial Protected Area which was created in 2019.
00:47:35Stephen also served on the Indigenous Circle of Experts
00:47:38which provided advice to Canadian governments on how to meet global conservation targets
00:47:44with Indigenous protected and conserved areas
00:47:47and he has been involved for many years in creating Indigenous guardians programs.
00:47:52Stephen will host this session.
00:47:59Trees on the ground is required.
00:48:04We need to be able to demonstrate what the global action looks like on the ground,
00:48:08how that re-contributes back to the global numbers.
00:48:12Can you give us a little bit more explanation as to
00:48:16how that is done in your nick of the woods in Africa?
00:48:20Leading grassroots work, restoring degraded landscapes
00:48:25and they've been doing this for 40 years.
00:48:27Essentially working with women, organizing around protecting existing forests
00:48:33but also restoring what's gone.
00:48:36A lot of that emerging from the felt needs of lack of nutritious food,
00:48:42lack of water close by, portable water
00:48:45and then of course lack of fuel wood to cook and warm their homes.
00:48:50So a lot of that was directly three very basic needs,
00:48:55human needs that were connected with the degradation of nature
00:48:58and so movements like the Green Belt Movement
00:49:01that are galvanizing the protection and the restoration of nature.
00:49:07But the good news Stephen is that at a continental level
00:49:11we have a movement that was endorsed and mandated by the African Union
00:49:16to begin the restoration of 100 million hectares of land
00:49:19across the African continent.
00:49:22Nationally led, politically motivated and driven by individual heads of state
00:49:28who made commitments to restore certain numbers of degraded landscapes.
00:49:34Kenya, 5.1 million hectares of land to be restored by 2030.
00:49:40Ethiopia, 15 million hectares of land.
00:49:43So there were commitments beyond the 100 million expected.
00:49:47We got to 128 million in commitments.
00:49:50These movements and these motivations,
00:49:53part of a global movement to restore degraded landscapes
00:49:57is really important in setting the ambition for the protection of nature.
00:50:03Now we have to do the hard work of actually implementing on those commitments
00:50:07but I would say the momentum is there.
00:50:10There's a lot of interest, there's a lot of clarity now
00:50:13about how important nature is.
00:50:15Almost every week a new report comes out that reminds us
00:50:19that we cannot ignore the value of nature
00:50:21and so this makes the relevance of AFR 100
00:50:25and movements like it around the world extremely important.
00:50:27So I would say there's a lot of motivation at the moment.
00:50:31Since 2019 for example here in the Northwest Territories alone
00:50:35we protected over 12 million hectares of land
00:50:39including 26,000 square kilometers.
00:50:42Right across the country you see Indigenous nations
00:50:45propose in large protected areas within their territories
00:50:49that can be contributed towards international targets
00:50:52but also done with a goal of reconciliation
00:50:56in the colonial history of Canada.
00:50:59So it's a dual purpose and dual opportunity for us here.
00:51:02And I think we do it well.
00:51:04We have done our part.
00:51:05Great to see the Indigenous people taking the lead
00:51:08using our worldviews to guide our work
00:51:11and our relationship with our own backyards
00:51:14and making sure that our own backyards contribute
00:51:15to the global biodiversity.
00:51:18Stephen, I think what's really interesting
00:51:20is that there's such consensus.
00:51:23There's such consensus especially among Indigenous peoples
00:51:27and local communities across the world
00:51:29of the central nature of nature itself.
00:51:34How it almost is as if the rest we are catching up
00:51:38with the Indigenous wisdom that already knows this,
00:51:40that already believes this, that lives this.
00:51:43And so action on the ground at the local level
00:51:47is a very personal thing.
00:51:48And so in fact, every time I'm talking
00:51:51about the sustainable development goals
00:51:53or reflecting on the fact
00:51:55that the sustainable development goals
00:51:56are so intricately related to nature
00:51:59I'm struck by the fact that almost all of them,
00:52:02almost all of them, maybe one or two
00:52:04if we want to at least be very purist
00:52:08are related to the integrity of the natural world.
00:52:11Hunger, water, food, poverty, equity,
00:52:15especially of women, clean water, energy, name it.
00:52:20Almost all of them are attached to the extent
00:52:23to which we have destroyed the systems
00:52:27that hold nature together.
00:52:28And so I really think that if we're going
00:52:32to achieve the sustainable development goals
00:52:34and just how central it is this decade,
00:52:37we've got to address the integrity of nature.
00:52:41And with that comes the custodians,
00:52:44a lot of those Indigenous communities
00:52:47and local communities,
00:52:48and particularly women in my part of the world
00:52:51who are really the holders and the custodians
00:52:55of all things that come from nature,
00:52:57including the food basket.
00:52:59I was struck recently, Stephen,
00:53:00that the FAO's data reflecting that 80%
00:53:07of all the food produced in non-industrialized countries
00:53:10is produced by small scale farmers.
00:53:13And 70% of them are women.
00:53:16The entire food basket of non-industrialized countries
00:53:19is held by women.
00:53:21And yet they are some of the poorest in the world.
00:53:25That is not going to be part of how we sustain life
00:53:29as we know it,
00:53:30because as I said,
00:53:31all 17 goals are somehow linked to nature
00:53:35and women are at the center of nature.
00:53:38So how can we address them,
00:53:41these goals,
00:53:42without addressing the plight of women?
00:53:44That is a very important message as we move forward.
00:53:48And the role of local communities and Indigenous peoples
00:53:51in bringing that wisdom forward
00:53:53is going to be really important.
00:53:55I'm glad to hear what's happening in your region
00:53:59and the exciting initiatives
00:54:02that many of us around the world
00:54:04seem to be engaging in at this point in time.
00:54:08Thank you, Stephen.
00:54:09It was wonderful.
00:54:10Thank you very much.
00:54:55And we're going to be talking about the projects
00:55:15that we worked on that's pretty exciting
00:55:18and that's going to contribute to the global goal
00:55:21of protecting 30% by 2030.
00:55:24And restoring nature to as much as we can by 2050.
00:55:30So, Panut, can you describe the Sumatra Islands,
00:55:36your history of in your lifetime,
00:55:39what you've seen happening in Sumatra Islands?
00:55:42Yeah. Hi, I'm from Sumatra,
00:55:44one of the biggest islands in Indonesia.
00:55:46As other islands are facing forest loss
00:55:50is the biggest issue on our island in Sumatra.
00:55:55As a result, the forest loss actually also caused
00:55:58a lot of troubles for many wildlife,
00:55:59including orangutans.
00:56:01And the major reasons why actually
00:56:03we are losing our forest
00:56:04is because expansion of plantations.
00:56:07But it does not mean that
00:56:09when we are losing the forest now,
00:56:11we actually stop doing nothing.
00:56:13So here I am actually in Indonesia, Sumatra,
00:56:16trying to help the forest,
00:56:17to keep the forest standing as forest.
00:56:20Definitely here in Canada,
00:56:23we've been lucky in the northern part of the country
00:56:26where we still have a pretty intact boreal forest
00:56:28that contributes greatly to the global weather patterns
00:56:32and global climate.
00:56:33In my part of the boreal forest
00:56:36in the Southeast Northwest Territories,
00:56:38we created fighting and indigenous protected
00:56:41and conserved areas.
00:56:43We did it in partnership with the government of Canada.
00:56:46So part of that site in Indiana is a National Park Reserve.
00:56:50The other partner we have
00:56:51is the Government of Northwest Territories.
00:56:54So we have a territorial protected area
00:56:57and a territorial conservation area
00:56:59using legislation that my people helped create.
00:57:03We feel comfortable now
00:57:04that our roles and responsibilities,
00:57:07our jurisdiction is recognized within site in Indiana.
00:57:10And we've become a real partner
00:57:13with Canada and the GDWT
00:57:15where we effectively make decisions together.
00:57:18We have our own staff,
00:57:20the indigenous guardians that are there
00:57:25working alongside the staff of Parks Canada
00:57:28and the staff of the Government of Northwest Territories
00:57:30as equal partners,
00:57:31implementing the decisions that we make as parties
00:57:35through the management board
00:57:37that we create and appoint people to.
00:57:39So those types of relationships are so important
00:57:47to demonstrate that we can work together.
00:57:49We can work with different levels of governments
00:57:53supported by regional, national, international NGOs.
00:57:58That's the type of actions that's required
00:58:01to halt the loss of biodiversity in my mind
00:58:04and use these opportunities
00:58:08to create long-term employment for people
00:58:13where they can use their knowledge systems
00:58:16and ways of knowing and their sciences really
00:58:21to work alongside their own governments
00:58:25in the case of Canada
00:58:27and combining the best knowledge
00:58:29between the indigenous and Western science
00:58:32to be applied in these areas.
00:58:35Can you explain a little bit more
00:58:37about the role of orangutans in Sumatra?
00:58:47Yeah.
00:58:48It will be very interesting to talk about orangutans.
00:58:52Orangutans is actually the best gardener in the forest
00:58:57because they disperse many seeds.
00:58:59When they eat many fruits,
00:59:01they actually disperse the seed of the fruits
00:59:03and the main diet is actually fruits from the forest.
00:59:07And then they really help
00:59:10their natural regenerations in forest.
00:59:12That's really important to have those orangutans
00:59:14actually protected in the ecosystem, in the habitat.
00:59:18And unfortunately, orangutan life is not as happy
00:59:23as we can imagine now
00:59:24because the losing of the habitat
00:59:27because of the expansion of palm plantations, for example,
00:59:29that actually degrade and then fragment
00:59:33many habitats of orangutans, including the national parks.
00:59:36So we are in front line actually
00:59:40here supporting the government,
00:59:42especially the national parks
00:59:44to actually protect the forest,
00:59:47the remaining forest for orangutans
00:59:49and many other wildlife too
00:59:51because our forest is full of many, many species,
00:59:55including big mammals such as Sumatran elephants,
01:00:00rhino, tiger, and elephants.
01:00:02So it's really, really rich in terms of diversity.
01:00:06And then we need to protect this.
01:00:08We need to also make sure that the people understand
01:00:13that there is connection between people
01:00:16and the nature and the wildlife.
01:00:17This is really, really important to put in place
01:00:20that local actions actually generated from our own people.
01:00:25And then we actually support the government.
01:00:28In Indonesia, the National Park Management
01:00:30is actually under the authority of the central government.
01:00:33And we are very lucky that we are given such rights
01:00:38to participate actively in the conservation.
01:00:41So this is really, really important
01:00:45to highlight the need to involve local people.
01:00:51And our NGO, Orangutan Information Center,
01:00:54has been working for the last 20 years
01:00:57to ensure the safety of orangutans
01:01:00through actually engaging local people
01:01:02and then planting trees on a degraded forest
01:01:06as a result of illegal plantation expansion,
01:01:09including palm oil, rubber, and other commodities.
01:01:12So it's been very dynamic in terms of changes,
01:01:16changing in the policy as well.
01:01:18There's also the challenge where actually there are
01:01:21some policies that are not in line
01:01:23with the protection of the orangutan habitat.
01:01:27And then there are some also development needs
01:01:31that sometimes overweight between the needs
01:01:34to boost the economy and the need to protect the forest.
01:01:37And then this is kind of big dilemma for us.
01:01:41In the same time, we need to push the economy.
01:01:43But I think we are in a position to ask the government
01:01:47whether actually either we actually have to give priority
01:01:51to economic development or actually protecting the forest.
01:01:54But in my opinion, protecting the forest is the priority
01:01:59because by protecting the forest,
01:02:01actually we will boost the economy in the long term.
01:02:03So it's really, really important to put the forest
01:02:06at the first place, at a priority in many policies
01:02:10as part of the climate change mitigations
01:02:13and in how we actually tackle
01:02:15the potential natural disasters
01:02:17as a result of the loss of many, many forests.
01:02:20I think this is a great place to make the statement
01:02:27you finished with that we need to create
01:02:31the economies along with nature.
01:02:35Indigenous people, local communities, business,
01:02:38scientists, governments, and environmental advocates
01:02:42all engaged in efforts to create a nature-positive world.
01:02:46They give us hope that we can create a world
01:02:48they give us hope that together
01:02:50with a unified sense of purpose, we can make things better.
01:02:55Our 21st century challenges require us all to think and act
01:03:00in an integrated way to meet nature's needs,
01:03:04the needs of people, and to stabilize the climate.
01:03:08To help us get to where we want to be,
01:03:11we need a nature-positive global goal for nature
01:03:15that can be integrated with global goals
01:03:17for human development and the climate.
01:03:21In our next episode, we have a fascinating variety of guests
01:03:24who will focus on the equity dimension
01:03:27of the new integrated vision of working together
01:03:31to create an equitable, nature-positive,
01:03:34and carbon-neutral world.
01:03:35The Earth is a beautiful, wonderful place for us.
01:03:38In fact, I'd love to see something in nature
01:03:42that you're grateful for.
01:03:43I've seen lots of people in nature, to be honest,
01:03:46and I understand why it's so important to get outside,
01:03:50to breathe, to open your window, to get out in your garden,
01:03:52to feel the sunlight, feel the wind, to touch the water.
01:03:55It is that connection that humans have
01:03:59with nature that is so important to us.
01:04:01The trees we plant now will be our grandchildren's shade.
01:04:05We're leaving them the world we made.
01:04:08Taking time to allow our bodies
01:04:09to truly, physically connect with the Earth.
01:04:13Looking forward to holding hands together
01:04:15and continuing this movement
01:04:18where science, civil society, business, policy,
01:04:22and citizens across the world
01:04:24increasingly rise to the challenges of climate change.
01:04:28Young people are really the only ones
01:04:29who have ever truly changed the world.
01:04:32I think we can all rebuild the better world.
01:04:35So few places I go in the world,
01:04:37do you ever see a place where the rivers
01:04:39are just pouring down and you can see straight through?
01:04:42What better way to express our gratitude
01:04:45than to take care of each other?
01:04:46I think we can all rebuild a better world.
01:04:48The Earth is a beautiful, wonderful place for us.
01:04:51It's a beautiful, wonderful place for us.
01:04:53What better way to express our gratitude
01:04:56than to take care of each other
01:04:58and to take care of this planet that we're on.
01:05:03Thank you so much.