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00:00easy-going. Does this reflect the unplanned growth that we are talking about?
00:06Absolutely. I feel that since the construction of Nagarnikam, its responsibility has increased a lot.
00:11But Nagarnikam was not able to fulfill that responsibility.
00:14You see, all the middle-level cities in India, like Indore and Ahmedabad,
00:20which have grown in this way,
00:22all the Nagarnikams there, a heritage cell was built everywhere.
00:27They have preserved their history, their green spaces.
00:31Dehradun was very prosperous in that regard.
00:35There were a lot of green spaces here, a lot of historical places.
00:39But we were not able to save them anywhere.
00:42I feel that the entire responsibility of Nagarnikam is to clean the gutters,
00:50to give licenses to the dogs, to recover the houses.
00:57Its work has been limited to that extent.
01:00So, it is not that only the budget and money can do the work.
01:05In today's time, no one can say that we are a government body,
01:10a statutory body, but we do not have money.
01:13All the corporates, all the government institutions here,
01:17you include them in it.
01:21Include the citizens in it.
01:23Keep volunteers in every neighborhood, in every ward.
01:27So, they will work on their own.
01:30And join the other institutions as well.
01:33There, somewhere, I feel, Nagarnikam of Dehradun failed,
01:39which is why we are seeing this kind of growth.
01:43Sir, once again, we are standing on the threshold of elections.
01:46And once again, the public's demand, the public's wish,
01:51they get a chance somewhere during the elections.
01:54And as a citizen of Dehradun,
01:57the way you worked, you understand the issues of Dehradun in detail.
02:00Do you think the public is aware of these issues?
02:04Or the public that has come here from outside,
02:08who are facing these issues?
02:10They have not seen the old Dehradun.
02:13So, what do you think, sir, how does the public think?
02:16I think there is a lack of public awareness.
02:20Because our leaders, who lead us,
02:24they also come from the public.
02:26So, the public does not demand that.
02:29That is why they do not do such things.
02:32But still, I believe,
02:34I come in contact with a lot of people every week.
02:38We also do a heritage walk on Sundays.
02:41About 100 people come.
02:43But I feel that the delivery of the city
02:48and the expectation of the public,
02:50there is a big gap in that.
02:52People want us to live in a clean environment.
02:58Cleanliness, greenery,
03:00our history, canals, our parks,
03:05they should be saved.
03:07But the focus of the city is something else.
03:09The focus of the city is civil works.
03:12That we should build roads,
03:14and then again...
03:15More focus on maintenance.
03:17Let me tell you,
03:18I was on the Dehradun Smart City Board.
03:21I was an independent director.
03:23So, I gave a small suggestion.
03:25That the people who save their heritage façade,
03:32the historical buildings,
03:35the old buildings,
03:36and they save that building,
03:38they should be given some leeway.
03:40But when that suggestion was implemented,
03:43it was implemented in such a way that
03:45if someone is building a new building,
03:47and he is building a heritage façade,
03:49he can build an extra floor.
03:51So, today, in Dehradun,
03:53all the commercial buildings,
03:55each one has a plastic wall,
03:58or a plywood wall,
03:59and they are taking an extra floor.
04:01So, in the files, in the bureaucracy,
04:06things change like this.
04:08And after that,
04:09instead of being beneficial,
04:10it becomes harmful.
04:12So, sir,
04:13if Dehradun Municipality is to be elected,
04:16what is the best suggestion you would like to give
04:18to the mayors here,
04:20or those who will be elected in different wards.
04:23So, what is the best suggestion you would like to give them,
04:26so that the form of Dehradun city
04:28can be brought back to some extent.
04:31First of all, I would like to suggest that
04:34the work style should be completely transparent.
04:37You should talk to the people of your ward,
04:39or the people of the entire city.
04:41You should talk to them.
04:43It should not be that
04:44after the project is implemented,
04:46you are talking to the people.
04:48So, this is often happening,
04:51that the government is building something,
04:53and then people are objecting,
04:55and then there is a fight.
04:57So, work with transparency.