Gilbert Arenas blasts Pat Riley for costing the Heat star players causing they guys to enter a quibble concerning his criticism.
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00:00Can I tell you somebody who's not my guy?
00:01Who?
00:02Gilbert Arenas.
00:03Ugh.
00:03Gilbert Arenas?
00:05He has a podcast, because everybody does these days.
00:07Yeah.
00:08And he was very mad at Pat Riley.
00:11Over the Jimbo thing.
00:13He can't be mad at nobody.
00:15Some of his shenanigans.
00:16He's mad at Pat Riley.
00:18Here's Gilbert Arenas.
00:20He moved to the Knicks.
00:21He ain't doing nothing.
00:23He moved to Miami.
00:24He got shot.
00:26I mean, he got Dwayne Wade.
00:27He came and got Shaquille O'Neal.
00:30Then they brung a whole bunch of other players to help win.
00:34You can't pretend you that got them.
00:37You're not bigger than them.
00:38You're pretending you are.
00:40They left.
00:41LeBron came.
00:43They won a championship.
00:45You can't pretend you're bigger than LeBron.
00:47LeBron leave.
00:48This is crap.
00:49Jimmy Butler comes.
00:51He gets you to the championship.
00:52If he tells you, bring me one more star, mother
00:55Bring him one more star.
00:57Because if he can get you to the championship with this,
01:00bring me one more star.
01:01I got you.
01:02So for you to pretend that you are the heat culture
01:06and you can do this, you're lying.
01:09Because when he leaves, nobody's coming there.
01:12I got this.
01:13Nobody's coming to.
01:14You got South Beach in your favor.
01:16Yes.
01:17And you treat South Beach like it's a prison.
01:26Valid points.
01:26I don't like that.
01:27No valid points.
01:28Valid points.
01:30Here's the deal.
01:34And we all have said this.
01:38You've made this heat organization about heat culture
01:42and not about the heat players for years, OK?
01:49Heat culture may set the tone, but heat players win games.
01:53Oh, yeah?
01:53Yeah.
01:54Agent Zero's record, his career against heat culture was?
01:57See, here we go.
01:58Here we go.
01:59Yeah, 3 and 18.
02:00Wait.
02:02Can both things be true?
02:03Nah, it's just like.
02:04Can Gilbert Arenas not be very good against the heat?
02:07And what Gilbert Arenas said has some valid points.
02:09You think the heat are never going to get anybody again?
02:11No.
02:12I don't believe that.
02:13Well, that's what he just said.
02:13OK.
02:14No one's coming here.
02:15All right.
02:20There is a standard that is set here.
02:23I agree.
02:25I agree with how everybody does it, OK?
02:28I just think some people got it.
02:30But here's what I also believe.
02:33The heat have been great when their star players
02:38have been more selfish, right?
02:43Remember when the big three were here.
02:46When did it turn around?
02:47When LeBron stopped being a chicken against JJ Varela.
02:50When D-Way went to LeBron and said, do your thing.
02:53Because why?
02:54Oh, my god.
02:56Because why?
02:57See how he.
02:57See why we have problems.
02:58Because why?
02:59Marcos, see how we have problems?
03:00Why don't you acknowledge the.
03:02Because they didn't win.
03:03And why didn't they win?
03:08Why didn't they win?
03:10Because Dwayne Wade didn't give LeBron the right role?
03:14Or because LeBron James saw.
03:15Ah, don't film.
03:21He shrunk.
03:22It's OK.
03:23Like, you're lashing out.
03:25I'm not lashing out.
03:26I'm telling you what I'm.
03:28No, no, no.
03:29Here's a little thing I'd like to do.
03:31I'd like to do a little thing called, let's say what happened.
03:33OK.
03:34That's what happened.
03:35OK.
03:36And then the conversation happened after that.
03:39Yeah, that's the conversation that happened.
03:42That's what happened.
03:45So silly.
03:46Like, we sit here, and we placate,
03:48and we have to change things.
03:50They should have won the championship.
03:52They should have won the championship.
03:54Nobody's placating.
03:55OK.
04:02Again.
04:04By the way, Jimmy Butler seemed to, you know, first of all,
04:06the idea that Jimmy Butler has it run like a prison,
04:09you mean the guy who stays at five star
04:11Airbnbs on every road trip?
04:15Yeah, so every road trip.
04:17He goes to tennis, does whatever he wants.
04:20It's run like a prison?
04:22No, dude.
04:22No, no, no.
04:23He didn't get his extension.
04:24But this is the thing.
04:25Like, I'm fine.
04:26I can understand.
04:28I told you.
04:29No, I know you're not.
04:29I'm talking about Agent Zero here, who, you know,
04:35he spent his career getting his tail kicked by the Miami Heat.
04:40OK, but he wants to act like he knows what it's like.
04:42What does that have to do with what he said?
04:44Because he's sitting here and being like,
04:45oh, no one's going to come there because it's run like a prison.
04:48Jimmy Butler's not mad because of that.
04:49Jimmy Butler's mad because he's not getting his money.
04:51No, again, the Heat have done what they need to do.
04:56And the culture part of it is, I love it.
05:03I love that everybody comes here and plays with a certain way.
05:07There's a certain level of intensity that you're required.
05:11I love that part of it.
05:13Again, culture doesn't win games.
05:15Players do.
05:17So I'm also saying that, yeah, he made some valid points about Jimmy.
05:23But Jimmy did this to himself, OK, by missing so many games.
05:29And then it got, and then look, here's what happens.
05:33And this is the honest truth.
05:35The organization, who has given you everything that you've asked for,
05:40let you have re-reign.
05:44You've given him 60 games and they're like, we need more games.
05:48Like a lot of these situations we end up with in the postseason,
05:51we wouldn't be in if you played more games.
05:52Sorry, Pat Riley, I believed in Lamar Odom and paying you,
05:55and paying him and not you.
05:56Sorry.
05:57Oh, so you sided with Jimmy Butler?
05:59I have sided with Jimmy Butler.
06:00I'm the one who said to pay him the entire time.
06:02No, he shouldn't be paid.
06:04OK, that's fine.
06:04You are paid with a promise of what you're going to do.
06:08I haven't said that there aren't points on both of these arguments.
06:11I haven't said that.
06:13But the idea that people say things like,
06:15oh, the Heat run it like a prison.
06:17Who said that? One guy.
06:18He literally, that's who I'm at.
06:20One, who cares?
06:22I'm not even talking, I haven't even talked about that point.
06:24You're freaking out one point to make his whole argument not valid.
06:29Oh, dude.
06:30OK, but you're sitting here and being like,
06:32oh, it took a talk from Dwayne Wade.
06:34No, I'm just.
06:36No, no, no, LeBron James, he shriveled.
06:38OK, him and Dwayne Wade ran roughshod
06:41through a tougher East that year.
06:43They lost to the Shawn Stevenson.
06:46All right.
06:48Like you stick on a couple of points, I'm like, OK, facts, whatever points,
06:54facts, whatever you want to call them.
06:56OK, the overall thing that I took from Gilbert, not even like, yeah,
07:03there's certain organizations that run a certain way
07:07and demand a certain style of play from their play.
07:11There is nothing wrong with that.
07:13Nothing wrong.
07:14Danny Jimmy should have been used to it because he played for tips.
07:16Maybe we should play Russian roulette.
07:18OK, like they're doing.
07:18But.
07:20You don't think it would be playing Russian roulette,
07:22given Jimmy and they literally were playing Russian roulette
07:24in the wizard's locker room.
07:26I know, but you don't think that that Pat would be playing Russian roulette
07:30if he would have gave Jimmy an extension?
07:32Oh, see that.
07:33But that's it.
07:34Can you pay 60 million?
07:35I don't know.
07:36But then he's a dummy for that.
07:37He can't win.
07:38You know what I mean?
07:39Like Pat can't win.
07:40You're either it's more like you're either you're either an ingrate
07:43because you didn't pay Jimmy Butler or you're a dummy because you paid
07:45Jimmy Butler here.
07:46There's not it's not a win situation.
07:48Let me let me ask you a question.
07:51What is more likely to happen?
07:54Jimmy Butler plays more games
07:57or Jimmy Butler plays the same amount of games he's played in my games.
08:00So if Pat Riley wanted him to play more and it was never going to happen
08:05and he said, I'm not.
08:07Isn't that the responsibility of his organization, though?
08:09Like, what is that?
08:09What Pat owes to the organization to make sure they don't make bad decisions?
08:13Right.
08:13So if he felt it was a bad decision because this is all the games.
08:17What if the best that I could do with the amount of games
08:19Jimmy was going to play was playing?
08:21Is that good enough for you?
08:24If he can beat the if he could beat the one.
08:25No, you're making it.
08:27How does that happen, Tobin?
08:29Well, it just happened.
08:30No.
08:32He did it one time out of how many times
08:34ever in the history of the NBA?
08:37Twice, three times, seven, six times, six times.
08:40And how long has the NBA been around?
08:42One. Right.
08:44Do you understand?
08:45Like, you can't live like that.
08:47I just wish you'd stop deflecting on the 2011 finals and just admit that
08:53you're deflecting.
08:54I'm not deflecting on it.
08:55JJ Barea wouldn't go all that.
08:57See, here's what you do when we get into an argument and I'm making sense.
09:03You go to the one or two points that you can just keep.
09:07OK, here you want to know what?
09:10Here's my problem.
09:11Here's what I'm going to say.
09:12I don't know.
09:12Can I tell you what my problem is?
09:13Can I tell you what my problem is?
09:14No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
09:15Let me.
09:15Hold on.
09:16Let me hear you say it.
09:17Hold on a second.
09:17Hold on.
09:18Let me.
09:18Let me tell you my problem.
09:19Let me just.
09:20LeBron should have dominated JJ Barea.
09:23Let's move on from there.
09:25Great.
09:25Can I say a point?
09:26Sure.
09:29Pat Riley is not without fault here.
09:31OK, I understand.
09:32I understand.
09:33OK, as you can put job on the organization.
09:36OK, did Pat Riley whiff and go a little too much balls on the table
09:40with the Damian Lillard situation?
09:42Yes.
09:43Yes.
09:43So did you, though?
09:44You really want to really want to know if nothing's here.
09:50Yours were right next to it.
09:51Can we just have on Cronan?
09:53You got no move there.
09:54Wait, stop.
09:55It's fair.
09:56It's fair.
09:57I'll acknowledge I overplayed my hand.
09:59OK, he got my tell.
10:02Joe Cronan has to be Howlin right now, even though he's still stuck
10:05with Scoot Henderson, but I just want to make nobody's been in school.
10:09Nobody's been in school, but let me just make one point.
10:11Can I just make one point?
10:14Twenty twenty five.
10:16What can we get back to?
10:17Yeah, I just make a point again, but I'll allow people to take their
10:23shots at Pat Riley, however, and however.
10:27Gilbert Arenas and Paul Pierce being more unreasonably upset at Pat Riley
10:33over this past week than Shaquille O'Neal was is a little weird.
10:39Does nobody find that a little strange?
10:41Shaq was literally here on television the other day saying like, listen,
10:45nobody knows about angry and Pat Riley.
10:46When you anger Pat Riley, that's it.
10:48I don't want to tell you, but these guys are sitting here being like, oh,
10:52no, it's never going to come there.
10:53Oh, no, it's never going to come there, except after Shaq, they got LeBron
10:59and after LeBron, they got Jimmy Butler and after Jimmy Butler,
11:01they'll get somebody else.
11:02So stop Gil and your arena here, here and your agent number here.
11:08Why are you giving him that much credit for knowing what's going on?
11:14That's the point, though.
11:15He likes to act like he knows what's going on and he doesn't.
11:18I so why are you so like, no matter what point I give you,
11:23all valid points, you know what you go to?
11:26You're going to read this.
11:27It's you just don't like the idea that Gilbert Arenas,
11:31Boogie Cousins and Paul Pierce are all sitting here acting like
11:36they know about winning or they know about Pat Riley or any of that stuff.
11:41Paul, why are you the fact that you've given them that much of a voice?
11:46Shame on you.
11:47No, not shame on me.
11:48I'm going to call out the fraudulence.
11:53All right.
11:53Can I make my point now?
11:55No, we're out of time.
11:55Oh, yes.