👉 El juicio por la muerte de cinco bebés y los intentos de homicidio de otros ocho recién nacidos en el Hospital Materno Neonatal de Córdoba comenzó con una tensa situación. La exenfermera está acusada de ser una asesina serial de bebés.
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00:00In these moments, Brenda Agüero declares, the woman we see in these moments drinking water,
00:06this is an image from yesterday when they read the accusation,
00:10supposedly broke, she was supposedly seen moved,
00:16and she just said that being in prison and studying law saved her.
00:25Her lawyer, the bald man with glasses that we see to his right,
00:30before the statement, just said that Brenda will be released in a few months.
00:36That she will be prosecuted?
00:38Yes, because she has no guilt.
00:41That in a few months the jury will have to prosecute her because she has nothing to do with this.
00:47And he used some terms, he said, Brenda is innocent ontologically.
00:52What does this mean?
00:54That it has to do with the being itself and that it has nothing to do with her context.
00:58That she is a good woman.
01:00And the defense attorney, who exercises a technical defense, said
01:05that she is innocent and that all the evidence against her is indicial,
01:13that they are indications, that there is nothing forceful.
01:15That there is no evidence but indications.
01:17Indications.
01:18That there is no direct evidence but something that leads to the other.
01:23Exactly.
01:24Well, and he didn't stay there.
01:27He also assured that in addition to the fact that she will be released in a few months,
01:33that there is no direct or indirect evidence,
01:37and that it will never be known what happened because the evidence to know what happened
01:43was not sought and others invented.
01:47Let's see, Carlos.
01:48Yes, invented.
01:49There are dead babies.
01:50No, of course.
01:51Invented.
01:52But what they argue is that she was not responsible.
01:54Yes, the dead babies are unfortunately,
01:58and they will be forever the pain of those families and that of all.
02:03But the point is to see if this does not have a visa of reality.
02:08The fact that they are indications and not evidence.
02:13What level of possibility of proof is there specifically?
02:17The question is very good because it is a very complex case.
02:21From now on, the justice, you know that she does not have to prove her innocence.
02:27It is exactly the opposite.
02:29That's why I tell you.
02:30The justice has to prove in an unequivocal way
02:34that Brenda Agüero is the murderer of these five babies
02:38and eight more who, thank God, were saved.
02:42There are testimonies.
02:45The testimonies are valid.
02:47Pay attention to this.
02:48You can have what is called a factual proof,
02:54a video that they put in place, a fingerprint.
02:58But the testimonies, as you are forced to tell the truth,
03:02are as valid as a physical proof.
03:05So there are testimonies that place it in place.
03:10The bodies of the babies spoke.
03:13And you know that the first vaccines that are given to babies are given to the legs.
03:19Well, the babies had punctures in the arms and in the back.
03:25In no way is this the product of some medical treatment.
03:30And the other issue is, and here it is more than relevant,
03:34they just stopped the deaths and the complicated health of the babies
03:42when Brenda Agüero is accused.
03:45When she is accused, but also when she separates from another 14 people.
03:49Not really.
03:50Because the 14 people begin to investigate them.
03:54Yes.
03:55Once a local police officer who was in custody in the hospital hears
04:00that it is the fifth death of a baby, the police say,
04:03something is happening here, I make the complaint.
04:05And the husband of a doctor in the hospital, when the woman,
04:08we are talking about the neonatal hospital in Córdoba.
04:13In other words, the place where the babies were born
04:15and where it is the place chosen by thousands of families to give birth.
04:20Exactly.
04:21Undoubtedly, it was the chosen place.
04:23There was no other better.
04:25The husband of a doctor who works in the hospital tells her,
04:30the woman tells him, and the husband says,
04:32no, something is happening here, and he is also going to make the complaint.
04:34Now two people outside the institution.
04:36Outside.
04:37And there is the issue of the investigation of all the other people.
04:41Exactly.
04:42Because one thing is the material author that everything points to this woman
04:46and it would be a historical case for the police chronicles of our country.
04:54Well, from the arrest of this woman and the investigation that was carried out,
05:01there are other people who are also linked to this case
05:05because negligence, omission or complicity did nothing.
05:12The director of the hospital.
05:14The vice director of the hospital.
05:16For double coverage aggravated.
05:18Because they did not report this.
05:20In their expertise they have to know that there was something strange.
05:23You can't overlook it.
05:24You can't overlook it.
05:25In no way, being director and vice director of a hospital, to none.
05:29Then, the direct bosses of this woman.
05:32The head of neonatology and the head of ...
05:36Nursing.
05:37Nursing, exactly.
05:38The head of neonatal and nursing.
05:41Then there are administrative positions.
05:42Also people with administrative positions that are being investigated.
05:46And this escalated so high.
05:48Because there had already been a first complaint at the beginning of the year 2022.
05:53This jumps in May, June 2022.
05:56But at the beginning of the year there had been a complaint.
05:58And this escalated so high that they are processed.
06:02The former health minister of the province.
06:05The former health secretary of the whole province.
06:08He is not from the municipality of Córdoba.
06:09From the whole province.
06:11And the heads and the head of legal areas of the Ministry of Health too.
06:18Today, the second hearing of this case that shocked us all.
06:23That bled us when we found out.
06:27And that when they began to concatenate the facts.
06:32They realized that there was a leading thread.
06:36Ernestina Marci is a journalist from Radio Mitre there in Córdoba.
06:41Ernestina, what do you know about what this woman is saying so far?
06:45The main one accused of the death of the five babies.
06:50Good morning.
06:51Well, thanks for the call.
06:53The reality is that yesterday was the first of the hearings.
06:57As you have been explaining.
06:58And as we are seeing in the images.
07:01There were very dramatic moments.
07:03This woman Brenda Agüero who is a nurse.
07:05A young woman who had been working for a while at the hospital.
07:09She exploded in tears just before the hearing began.
07:13It must be taken into account that just before that moment.
07:16A mother, a person, actually.
07:18A family member of one of the deceased babies.
07:20She could not believe it.
07:21She went to approach him.
07:23In the middle of the hearing they had to tell her.
07:25Please don't do that.
07:26Don't believe it.
07:27Don't approach him.
07:29There is a video that transcended in those previous moments.
07:32In which it is not heard exactly what he says.
07:34But it is noticeable that it is a tense situation.
07:36Very tense.
07:37And this cry of this woman starts.
07:39That for a long time.
07:41Since the beginning of all this investigation.
07:43She has been holding her innocence.
07:45But, however, she was arrested.
07:48Brenda Agüero from the first moment.
07:50In which she jumped and transcended her name.
07:52She has been in this preventive prison for more than two years.
07:56Meanwhile, Liliana Cis.
07:59Who is the other one who arrives as a detainee.
08:02But as a homemaker.
08:05She was the director of the neonatal maternity hospital.
08:07She is the ex-director of Liliana Cis.
08:09They are the two people who arrive as detainees.
08:12And this is important.
08:14It seems to me to highlight it and take it into account.
08:16Because there are 11 people.
08:18As you were also explaining.
08:20There are 11 people who are involved.
08:22Most are officials.
08:24And what Liliana Cis is accused of is.
08:26To have made the fat view.
08:28Because what they point out is.
08:30That these deaths.
08:32They were already being reported.
08:34They were being detected.
08:36And something strange was happening.
08:38And she is accused of basically omitting.
08:40To take some kind of action.
08:42Yes, to take some kind of action.
08:44What is expected for this day?
08:46She already started to declare.
08:48We understand Agüero.
08:50We are going to be reviewing with Carlos Estrella.
08:52Some of the emerging phrases.
08:54From this woman.
08:56Who is a nurse.
08:58Who has been detained for two years.
09:00Who was detained practically at the beginning.
09:02Ernestina.
09:04This interaction.
09:06This intervention.
09:08Better said.
09:10By the justice.
09:12Yes, exactly.
09:14And what is expected.
09:16Responding to your question.
09:18What is expected today.
09:20Is that she not only declares.
09:22That her version of the facts.
09:24In the center of that court.
09:26With all these people around.
09:28More than 100 people fit in the room.
09:30Between witnesses.
09:32Accused.
09:34Family members.
09:36Lawyers and others.
09:38100 people in a room.
09:40It is a lot to face them directly.
09:42Her statement is expected.
09:44So that she tells her version of the facts.
09:46So that she explains.
09:48What those stabbings were about.
09:50That were found on the babies.
09:52It is a case with almost 300 witnesses.
09:54Declaring 13 families.
09:56Involved.
09:58Because they are not only the 5 babies.
10:00They are 8 other families.
10:02That their babies survived.
10:04But today they have serious consequences.
10:06Physical and emotional.
10:08The witnesses will be declaring.
10:10And among them.
10:12Family members.
10:14So that they also say.
10:16What was detected.
10:18Because these babies.
10:20Were the ones who were able to continue.
10:22Doing studies.
10:24After the consequences of the stabbing.
10:26They have no kind of explanation.
10:28And what they point out.
10:30And what is expected of Brenda Agüero.
10:32Is that she explains why there were.
10:34Substances or stabbings.
10:36That did not correspond.
10:38With the regulations of the vaccines.
10:40That have to be applied.
10:42Obligatorily to the babies.
10:44As soon as they are born.
10:46Stabbing in the back.
10:48That is to say.
10:50Extraordinary situations.
10:52That were the ones that the investigation points out.
10:54And that is what finally ended the lives of these children.
10:56Ernestina Carlos greets you.
10:58To ask you.
11:00The witnesses are going to be many.
11:02It is a very complex cause.
11:04Do you know how many hearings.
11:06Or for when it can be reached.
11:08Even if it is prematurely.
11:10To think of a sentence.
11:12Four are expected.
11:14Four hearings per week.
11:16Between January and February.
11:18Three hearings per week.
11:20In total approximately.
11:22It will be about 70.
11:24It is expected that the trial.
11:26Ends in mid-June.
11:28Between June and July.
11:30Six months of trial.
11:32Let's not forget.
11:34That a court hearing was held.
11:36Of summer.
11:38So that the hearings can be carried out.
11:40In a really exceptional situation.
11:42It is very rare.
11:44That a court hearing.
11:46By order of the prosecution.
11:48And the judges of control.
11:50To carry out a process.
11:52They usually start later.
11:54And it will be the last of my part.
11:56And now we are going to share some textuals.
11:58Of what Brenda Güero is saying.
12:00Cordoba adheres to the system.
12:02Of trial by jury, right?
12:04Yes, yes, yes.
12:06It is trial by jury.
12:08With gender parity.
12:10Even with people.
12:12So that the hearings can be carried out.
12:14So that they can be present.
12:16So that they can listen.
12:18And so that in the most objective way possible.
12:20They can reach a verdict.
12:22Once this is over.
12:24There is also a replacement system.
12:26In the event that.
12:28One of the popular jurors.
12:30Can not continue with the process.
12:32There is a whole replacement system.
12:34So that this can be carried out.
12:36Let's share.
12:38Ernestina, please don't go.
12:40Because we are starting to get textuals.
12:42Of what Brenda Güero is saying.
12:44What did he say so far, Carlos?
12:46I said I was going to testify.
12:48And here I am.
12:50Today I am calmer. I can testify.
12:52And here begins to be.
12:54The textual defense.
12:56He is answering questions from the jury.
12:58Because this was a possibility, right?
13:00It was not known if he was going to answer questions or not.
13:02Or if he was going to make a speech directly.
13:04That is, he was going to speak.
13:06And not answer questions.
13:08He answers.
13:10He says.
13:16Weird.
13:38Yes.
14:00Yes.
14:02It does not sound spontaneous.
14:04Well, of course.
14:06It will be spontaneous, right?
14:08Yes.
14:10Well prepared.
14:12Yes.
14:14Yes, please.
14:16This is the possibility I have to defend myself.
14:18They attacked me from all sides.
14:20I'm going to look for tools to defend myself.
14:22This is what he is telling the judge.
14:24Now Brenda Güero.
14:26And finally.
14:28The last thing that comes to us.
14:30Thanks to Maxi Russo, our executive producer.
14:32I have a religious belief.
14:34Within the penitentiary service.
14:36There is a Catholic Church.
14:38And to those places.
14:40I have attended.
14:42Well.
14:44So far.
14:46Brenda Güero's statement.
14:48Of this woman.
14:50We reiterate that two years ago she was arrested.
14:52Accused of having killed.
14:54Five newborn babies.
14:56And of having tried to do the same.
14:58With eight other children.
15:00In the same condition.
15:02Ernestina.
15:04How is this trial being experienced in the Cordoban society?
15:06Well.
15:08The reality is that.
15:10This issue has been shaking.
15:12To Cordoba as a whole.
15:14Since it was barely known.
15:16Because.
15:18There is a situation.
15:20The people who go to the neonatal maternity hospital.
15:22We have to take into account that it is a public hospital.
15:24It is a provincial health hospital.
15:26To which people go.
15:28Not all.
15:30There are people who do not have.
15:32A large amount of economic resources.
15:34Academics too.
15:36So.
15:38What is considered here.
15:40The opinion of the people.
15:42They took advantage of the vulnerable people.
15:44They took advantage of the poor people.
15:46Because many say that if this had happened.
15:48In a private clinic.
15:50Of society.
15:52It was not going to transcend in this way.
15:54It is a class issue.
15:56Basically.
15:58What is a class issue?
16:00Social.
16:02Possibility of income.
16:04Capacity of tools.
16:06Possibility of tools.
16:08Better said.
16:10Possibility of tools.
16:12Yes.
16:14People who told you.
16:16And I have heard the mothers say.
16:18We heard what they told us.
16:20From the hospital.
16:22They told us that our baby died.
16:24And we accept it.
16:26There the alarms went off.
16:28And it was one of the mothers.
16:30Who said this cannot be.
16:32And there they realized.
16:34That there was a massive death of babies.
16:36That were happening there.
16:38This outraged the people.
16:40Because it also happened.
16:42During the management of a Juan Schiaretti.
16:44That was then launched.
16:46To a presidential campaign.
16:48From the province of Cordoba.
16:50And this outraged the people.
16:52Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
16:54And this outraged the people.
16:56Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
16:58Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:00Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:02Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:04Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:06Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:08Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:10Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:12Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:14Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:16Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:18Because it happened in a provincial hospital.
17:20Because it happened in a provincial hospital.