👉 Una bebé presuntamente iba a ser vendida fue rescatada en Corrientes, Argentina. La madre y la niña están bajo la protección de la justicia. Hay detenidos relacionados con el caso y se han secuestrado documentos de la clínica Maternidad Iberá. La investigación, que abarca casi todo el norte del país, está a cargo de la Policía Federal Argentina y se encuadra dentro del delito de trata de personas. Se sospecha connivencia política en estos hechos.
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00:00Another thing that worries me is that I wasn't able to read a lot.
00:05There isn't a lot of information.
00:08What if a baby was rescued from a clinic that was sold?
00:15What do you know?
00:16I don't know if it was rescued from that clinic.
00:22I think it was ordered to kidnap documentary material
00:30and also the cameras and everything from a while ago.
00:33Because it would have been the place where the mother was hospitalized
00:37to give birth, and she had given birth.
00:40And the mother and the baby are now under the protection of justice.
00:45And are there detainees?
00:47There are detainees, yes.
00:49Ah, well, it's a confirmation.
00:51Yes, that's why.
00:52The reality is that it came through social media,
00:54with sources, with supposed information,
00:57because we couldn't check it from the police,
00:59an investigation of the Argentine Federal Police,
01:01which would have, I'm going to say it in potential,
01:04would have surprised a couple in a locality in Correntina
01:09with a baby that wasn't, let's say...
01:13It hadn't been confirmed.
01:15I think they arrived just in time,
01:17and the baby was still with her mother.
01:20The concern...
01:21The baby factory.
01:22It's a baby factory.
01:23That's the problem.
01:24It's a baby factory.
01:26Do you remember the neighbor on July 9th
01:28who talked about a baby factory?
01:30Yes.
01:31Julieta was.
01:32Julieta.
01:33Of being part of it.
01:34It surprised us all.
01:35Obviously, either they didn't want to investigate the issue
01:39or there was no evidence to proceed.
01:44But, well, in this case,
01:46Hanson is confirming about...
01:49Yes, what in other countries,
01:50we have to say it all,
01:51what in other countries is legalized,
01:53which is a rent...
01:54Of the womb.
01:55Of the womb, or a subrogation of the womb...
01:57A subrogation of the womb.
01:58Well, in Argentina it's not legal, right?
02:00And it would have happened in Corrientes.
02:02No, although the reform of the civil and commercial code,
02:07currently, at that point,
02:10there was a strong discussion in the commission
02:12that reformed the code,
02:14and they came to agree in part
02:17and left the same as the issue of procreation
02:22out of the maternal womb and so on,
02:27what it meant when life began.
02:30So there was a lot of discussion,
02:33there was no agreement,
02:35the subrogation of the womb was not accepted
02:37and it was still excluded from the civil code
02:40and it is practical in other countries, yes.
02:42Well, nothing...
02:44It's a crime.
02:45I didn't want to pass that topic
02:47because a lot of people wrote to us.
02:49The truth is that I didn't have much information,
02:52I knew that the Argentine Federal Police
02:54had made several stops,
02:56that there were people arrested
02:57and that that creature was under protection.
02:59The truth is that...
03:01Well, those are the things that the other day
03:04a colleague of yours told you,
03:06that Loan brought.
03:08What things?
03:09Yes, let's see.
03:10That these news began to be known,
03:13also the other day a girl was rescued,
03:15a young girl, I don't know if 16, 17 years old,
03:20who was used for prostitution,
03:23apparently she was exploited
03:26and all these news began to emerge
03:29with a lot of acidity after the Loan case.
03:32Well, but Marcelo...
03:33It's like he put in the glass
03:37many things that,
03:38I don't say it for journalism,
03:40but everyone knew it
03:42and that it didn't transcend
03:44because the authorities didn't stop.
03:46Yes, well, I'll add what you were going to say,
03:48not only in Corrientes,
03:49in almost all of the north of the country,
03:51and this also happens because there is political connivence,
03:53otherwise it is impossible
03:55that a situation is not visible.
03:57Look, they are giving me information now
03:59about the case,
04:00the same source that contacted us,
04:03they inform me that the baby,
04:05I'm going to put it in potential,
04:06the truth is that the source is correct,
04:08confirmed by Hanson the information,
04:10that the baby would have been rescued
04:12in a house in the neighborhood of Cambacua
04:15and yesterday they kidnapped documentation
04:19from the Iberá Maternity Clinic.
04:23Logically, an exhaustive investigation
04:25will have to be done
04:26because one assumes that this should be true,
04:29it would not be an isolated fact, right?
04:31Look, I think what Lou was saying
04:34is that it is not only in the north.
04:37The Lohan case opened the eyes
04:41to many people,
04:43many people from all over the country.
04:46They have written to me from very close from here,
04:50also,
04:51about things that would be happening abruptly,
04:54which obviously we are going to make a report,
04:56clearly.
04:57You don't have to go to the north,
04:58but you saw that this happened
04:59in the first days of the disappearance of Lohan,
05:01that the neighbors,
05:02from Corrientes above all,
05:03because the event happened there,
05:05began to be encouraged to speak.
05:07Yes.
05:08Well, this happens,
05:09but we didn't talk about it
05:10because we were afraid.
05:11Now, Marcelo,
05:12I want to ask you,
05:13outside the case,
05:15of the specific cause of Lohan,
05:17did you receive pressure at some point?
05:20Because we know that Chiribín did not speak again,
05:23that he had a very bad time
05:24a little over a month, two months ago,
05:26linked to certain comments,
05:28to pressures he has received.
05:30Many other lawyers
05:31who for different reasons
05:33have left the defense.
05:35Did you have any uncomfortable situation
05:37during this whole process?
05:41No, Lucía, no.
05:43The truth is,
05:44in a direct way, no.
05:45But yes, yesterday we talked to Monty
05:49that the worst thing that could have happened to this cause,
05:55that is, for those who do not want the truth to be discovered,
05:58is that we,
05:59that both Monty and I entered this cause.
06:02And I say it with total conviction
06:05that both Monty and I
06:07have never been able to even approach
06:10to insinuate anything,
06:11not in this cause,
06:12in any cause.
06:14Yes, well,
06:15that has to do with transparency,
06:16prolegity, right?
06:17And that you have also spoken from the zero moment, right?
06:20We are very grateful for that too.
06:22It is that you have to separate
06:23what is the professional from the impeached.
06:26I repeat the same thing.
06:27Of course.
06:28For me, the detainees,
06:30who are today deprived of freedom,
06:32plus external characters,
06:35I don't know why they are not so detained,
06:37but they are so free,
06:39from that place it comes out
06:42what happened to Lohan, right?
06:44Not where he is,
06:45not where he is,
06:46but they do know what happened.
06:49Someone of them knows it.
06:51Then, on a personal level,
06:53for me, Hanson seems to me
06:54a person's love.
06:56Yes, of course.
06:57Outside of what is defended by them, right?
07:00For me, everything has to be investigated
07:03and whoever has to pay,
07:04has to pay.
07:05Six months later.
07:06Yes.
07:09Are there investigators still,
07:11as we mentioned at some point,
07:13as civilians,
07:15following each one of the impeached,
07:17following the phones?
07:19Look, this is an exclusive image
07:20of the Arta 24-7,
07:21of the operation that was carried out
07:23at the Iberá Clinic.
07:25Yes.
07:26This clinic, I understand,
07:27is in the capital, Correntina,
07:29where documentation was hijacked
07:31regarding this...
07:34It wasn't the term, right?
07:35Illegal adoption.
07:36It's something they told us
07:37that we don't repeat.
07:38Well, this illegal delivery
07:42of a baby,
07:43this illegal sale, right?
07:46Of a baby, which is true.
07:47In other countries,
07:48it is regulated.
07:49In Argentina, absolutely not.
07:51And it's a crime.
07:53What happens is that this case resonates.
07:55It's a case investigated
07:56by the Argentine Federal Police
07:58because this is related
08:00to the crime of human trafficking.
08:05It resonates with the phrase
08:06of the neighbor, right?
08:07It was Julieta.
08:08Julieta.
08:09This neighbor of July 9,
08:10who in front of the camera,
08:11without any filter,
08:12was crossed by Ale Pueblas
08:14in the Plaza of July 9,
08:15and told her,
08:16July 9 is a baby factory.
08:19And she dared to say it
08:20because I remember
08:21she was a neighbor
08:22who had lived
08:23until a few years ago
08:24in the Buenos Aires suburb,
08:26in the West Zone,
08:27and it can be seen
08:28that she was not afraid of anything.
08:29She was not threatened
08:32like so many other neighbors
08:34who were born there.
08:35And it can be seen
08:36that they have them controlled, right?
08:40And they fear the power.
08:41This neighbor was not afraid of anything.
08:43She even faced another one
08:45who was a municipal employee
08:46in front of the camera
08:47and said it in text.
08:49July 9 is a baby factory.
08:52It must also be said
08:53that this was not investigated,
08:55at least that we know,
08:56by the justice system,
08:58but the phrase resonated.
08:59It even involved
09:00Maria Victoria Cayllaba.
09:02Since then,
09:03four months have passed
09:05and we do not have the information
09:07in the program
09:08that it is being investigated
09:09if a baby was actually sold
09:13in the capital, Correntina.
09:15The Argentine Federal Police
09:17would have intervened,
09:18would have frustrated this sale.
09:21A low-income woman
09:23who would have been given
09:25a very important sum of money,
09:26if I remember correctly,
09:27about 20 million pesos,
09:29with an entry.
09:30After the delivery,
09:31the rest of the payment was to be made
09:34and the police intervened.
09:36These people, well,
09:37detained and the investigation, right?
09:39Documentation was kidnapped
09:41at the Vera Clinic.
09:42Are you surprised, Marcelo,
09:43about this case?
09:45No, no, no.
09:46No, no, no.
09:47The truth is that I am not surprised.
09:48There has been precedent
09:51in the justice system
09:52that they have been investigated.
09:53But well,
09:54there is a bit of what
09:56I think Dr. Paz-Alpenso said,
09:59but it is true that inside,
10:01the logistics part
10:06is difficult to investigate
10:08this type of issue.
10:09Why?
10:10Because normally this requires
10:12an intelligence work
10:13of one or two years minimum
10:15because being orchestrated
10:17and organized,
10:18they are doing it to us
10:20in the light of everything,
10:21beyond the fact that in small places
10:23everything is known,
10:24as in July 9,
10:25but also with the aggravating
10:28that people out there are afraid
10:31and the presence of the media
10:34at this time,
10:35because of the Lohan case,
10:36freed them and they were able to say
10:39maybe things that...
10:40Let me make a clarification
10:42because I have had to speak
10:44about this topic in several cases.
10:46I am not a specialist,
10:47much less.
10:48I understand that there is a way
10:50through Escribano
10:51to do it.
10:52For example,
10:53you saw those people,
10:54those marriages,
10:55couples that can not
10:57get pregnant
10:58or that the man is not fertile.
11:01It is customary,
11:03well,
11:04to do it through a...
11:07Subrogation.
11:08A subrogation,
11:09through a relative,
11:11through a friend,
11:12but the crime is that
11:14it can not be remunerated.
11:15When it is remunerated,
11:16it becomes a crime.
11:18If it is not remunerated,
11:19there are ways to do it in Argentina.
11:22Without a doubt.