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00:00Bowling is easy for people to say, but it's actually a mental game.
00:06Usually, we don't fight with the opponent, we fight with ourselves.
00:10Because when we're on the lane, we're just with the pins.
00:13So people don't see how we fight inside, sometimes we get angry when the pins don't fall.
00:20But that's when people say, is it cold to play bowling?
00:23No, it's not cold.
00:24When we play, the pressure is high.
00:27We can get really angry.
00:30When we play, we play a lot of games.
00:348 games, 10 games.
00:35So our focus has to be on the ball.
00:39And sometimes when we're bowling, it's not a light ball.
00:42So the hands have to be strong.
00:44The body has to play a role.
00:47Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.
00:54You're back with me, Sudirman Matahir.
00:57In the short podcast, Konfession Be Gelap.
00:59And this week, we have a special guest.
01:03A beautiful and sweet person.
01:05I don't know if she's single or not.
01:06But don't joke around.
01:08She's an athlete of our nation.
01:12Our national sportswoman.
01:14The queen of our country.
01:16Natasha.
01:17Hello.
01:17How are you?
01:18I'm good.
01:19You good?
01:20I'm good.
01:21People say that when a bowling player
01:27has to have an attractive pattern.
01:31Really? I didn't know that.
01:32Cute, sweet.
01:35Maybe it's because we're sitting in the air-conditioned room.
01:38That's why she's called the queen.
01:42Because everyone else is playing outside.
01:43She's the defense.
01:46Natasha, before we talk about your success.
01:52And recently, you were awarded the Grand Prize
01:57from Sultan Selangor.
01:59Maybe you can share a little bit about it.
02:02Share?
02:03I mean, the award you received.
02:06Alhamdulillah, I'm grateful.
02:08This year was the best year for me.
02:12Because I won the national and national team.
02:17And for the end of 2024,
02:20I won the bronze medal from Selangor.
02:23Which is the highest in the national team.
02:27And that pushed me to do better.
02:34And to give my best for the country in the future.
02:39And I will try to do everything I can
02:44to make the country and Selangor proud.
02:48Alhamdulillah.
02:50Since when did you start playing bowling?
02:54I started playing bowling when I was 7 years old.
02:58Because my mother was a teacher.
03:02She was a technical teacher for MSSM and MSSD.
03:06So, I always followed her.
03:08And one day, when I saw bowling,
03:10when the pins fell,
03:13the happening strike,
03:14I felt like it was a sport that I wanted to try.
03:18So, I also tried bowling.
03:20And at the same time, when I was in school,
03:22I also tried netball and handball.
03:24But I liked both of them.
03:27But I have a passion more towards bowling.
03:30And I continued bowling until I got into MSSD, MSSM,
03:35and the national team until now.
03:377 years old, right?
03:39Yes, 7 years old.
03:40And you started to hold the heavy ball.
03:44But at first,
03:45How much did you weigh at that time?
03:46We weighed in pounds.
03:48So, at that time, it was only 6 pounds.
03:50So, it wasn't that heavy.
03:52And then I used that ball until I was in 6th grade or Form 1.
03:56Then I switched.
03:57That's also because my mom said,
03:59if you really want to play bowling,
04:02show that you really want it,
04:03then she will buy a new ball.
04:04Like that.
04:05You have to prove something to her first.
04:07Other than that, like Natasha said earlier,
04:09you saw when the pins fell,
04:11you felt like, wow, the spirit.
04:13You want to try that thing, right?
04:14Other than that, who did Natasha see,
04:16maybe, as your role model?
04:20When I was young,
04:23like we all know,
04:24Dato' Sharlene Zutiply for bowling.
04:27But in general,
04:30I also admire Dato' Nicole David.
04:34Okay.
04:35So, these two,
04:36I have had this idea since I was young.
04:38And I really want to follow in their footsteps
04:40because of the way they are proud of Malaysia.
04:44And that's how I want to give back
04:47to make the country proud.
04:49But when it's rare,
04:51in the crowd,
04:54actually, it's rare for us to see
04:56people who are interested in the field of bowling, right?
05:02If she was really born from a bowling family.
05:06Or like Natasha herself,
05:09her mother taught at a bowling school, right?
05:12Right?
05:13A regular school, but technical.
05:15Yes, a bowling school.
05:18When you express your feelings,
05:21when you feel like,
05:23okay, I want to be active in the field.
05:26What did your parents say, Natasha?
05:27Alhamdulillah, my parents are really supportive.
05:31My parents are the type that
05:33if I want something, they will support me.
05:36And when I played bowling for the first time,
05:39they always followed.
05:41And my mother, I remember,
05:43she accompanied me until the morning,
05:45until the end of training.
05:46So, I'm grateful.
05:49In terms of my family,
05:51they are really supportive.
05:53So, I'm grateful for that.
05:56And at the same time,
05:57when I joined the bowling club,
05:59there are also seniors who always help me.
06:05When I have difficulties,
06:08I will always be able to refer back to them,
06:11follow their footsteps.
06:12So, I think my environment,
06:16Alhamdulillah, is not as difficult as expected.
06:20Maybe this is my blessing or path for me to succeed.
06:24First big tournament, Natasha?
06:26Big tournament as a national athlete?
06:29My first national athlete was playing the SEA Games in 2015
06:35in Singapore.
06:37And I won gold for the event team.
06:40And then the next year,
06:41I was the representative of Under 21 Youth,
06:45the representative of the world,
06:47the representative for World Youth.
06:49And I also won the Masters.
06:52That was the start of my journey.
06:56People say it's a joy.
06:59Yes, it's a joy.
07:00Natasha, when the first big game was held,
07:04you were the representative of the country.
07:07How did you feel?
07:08Nervous.
07:09Nervous?
07:10Can you share?
07:11I remember the first feeling when I joined
07:14because at that time I played with all the seniors.
07:17So there were five seniors and I was the only junior.
07:21I had just joined.
07:23And the expectations were really high.
07:26Because you won gold.
07:27Yes, I won gold.
07:28So at that time, I took it as a lesson.
07:34And then when we had a lot of events,
07:37and every event that I didn't win,
07:40I would take it as a new one step
07:43or learn from my mistakes.
07:46Alhamdulillah, at the last day of the team event,
07:50we were all able to win the medal,
07:52which is the event that we targeted the most.
07:56But at that time, I was really nervous.
08:01How was your preparation?
08:03Personally.
08:05I think because I've been playing bowling since I was little
08:10and I've been in a few tournaments too.
08:13So there's still a bit of nervousness,
08:16but I can control it.
08:18And try to...
08:20Maybe it's also an experience
08:22because there are a lot of tournaments that we've been in.
08:25We can learn from all the experiences
08:28and be able to control the nervousness
08:30when playing in a big tournament.
08:32What was your first reaction?
08:34At that time, I thought,
08:36just do my best.
08:38Because if we do our best and we enjoy it,
08:42usually everything will be smooth.
08:45If we think too much,
08:46there will be a lot of obstacles.
08:49So I just wanted to enjoy the moment.
08:51It's a pleasure to bring your country's name.
08:53It's a pleasure, especially if people want to give me gold.
08:56Right?
08:57In your team, do you get pressured?
08:59Do you have to give gold?
09:02You'll know for yourself.
09:04The coaches will say,
09:06we have three targets,
09:07but everyone knows that we have to deliver that thing.
09:11That's how it is.
09:12So you'll know for yourself.
09:14Before going to big tournaments,
09:17or any tournaments that you want to enter,
09:20whether at the national level or international level,
09:25what is your routine that you try to avoid?
09:28Maybe you want to take care of your emotions.
09:30For example, if you have a boyfriend,
09:31you don't want to argue with your boyfriend.
09:33Or you don't want to have any problems
09:35so you don't want to fight.
09:37For me,
09:38the first thing is injury.
09:42Because injury is a major thing.
09:46If you're injured,
09:47it's hard to recover.
09:49And it takes time.
09:50If the tournament is painful,
09:52it will affect you.
09:54So for me,
09:55the first thing is injury.
09:56And one more thing,
09:57I just want to keep fit.
10:00But my routine before playing,
10:02I will make sure to call my parents.
10:06To make sure.
10:07To make sure?
10:08To make sure.
10:09Because people always say,
10:10pray for your mother.
10:11So I will call my parents
10:13to pray for her.
10:15And then,
10:16usually,
10:17I'll make sure to do that.
10:20So usually,
10:21you will try to,
10:24people say,
10:25really disturb Natasha, right?
10:27Disturbing is usually an injury.
10:29Because if we're injured,
10:31these spots take time.
10:33Sometimes we have to go to rehab,
10:35we don't have time.
10:36So usually,
10:37if we're injured,
10:38the coach will ask us to rest
10:39instead of going to the tournament.
10:41So,
10:43a few months before the tournament,
10:44we have to make sure
10:45we're in a fit condition.
10:48No injuries,
10:49because those things
10:50will affect our performance later.
10:54Have you ever been injured?
10:55I have.
10:56I missed a few
10:57because my wrist hurt.
11:00So the coach asked me to rest.
11:03And then,
11:04but maybe because of that,
11:06I learned.
11:07So I don't want to get injured again.
11:09I make sure after a long tournament,
11:11I go to rehab
11:12or physio
11:13to
11:16recover myself.
11:19But your daily routine,
11:22Natasha,
11:23if you're not an athlete,
11:24is it the same as other people?
11:27Or how?
11:29I'm not sure about that.
11:31But I
11:33like
11:34baking.
11:35That's another thing.
11:36I used to,
11:37during the fasting month,
11:38I used to make cookies
11:40and sell them.
11:41So maybe
11:43if I'm not
11:45an athlete,
11:47I'll learn
11:49or
11:50I'll open a baking shop.
11:51I'm not sure.
11:53But now,
11:54I'm a full-time athlete.
11:56So if you don't have a tournament,
11:58what do you do?
12:00We train every day.
12:01Every day?
12:02Yes, every day except Saturday and Sunday.
12:04And then,
12:06we train full-time.
12:08Because you're paid, right?
12:10Yes, I'm paid by the national team.
12:12Is it tiring, Natasha?
12:13Or is it a choice that you think,
12:16okay, this is me?
12:19It's tiring,
12:20but when we win something,
12:22we feel like
12:24everything we have,
12:27everything we do,
12:28it's all hard work paid off for me.
12:30So,
12:31if I don't hang out with my friends
12:33or
12:34I can't spend time with my family,
12:36when I win something,
12:37I feel like
12:39it's worth it
12:41to prove
12:43to
12:45myself
12:47or my siblings.
12:49No matter how hard it is,
12:51there's always a way for you to
12:53do something.
12:55What about your relationship with your teammates?
12:59For athletes,
13:01we're like a family.
13:03Because I think I meet them more often
13:06than I meet my family.
13:08We mostly travel together.
13:11So, we meet every day for training.
13:13Then, we go to the gym.
13:15And then,
13:16the next day, we meet again.
13:17So,
13:18if there's a problem,
13:19we'll share it with each other
13:20and try to solve it together.
13:23So,
13:24I can say that they're like my second family.
13:27Natasha,
13:28when we talk about sports,
13:31only those who are interested in sports
13:33will be interested in sports.
13:39As an outsider who doesn't know about bowling,
13:43what can you share about bowling?
13:47For those who don't know,
13:48when we watch TV or movies,
13:50there's always someone
13:52who wants to teach someone.
13:54Is that true, Natasha?
13:56What do you mean by bowling?
14:00It's the opposite of bowling.
14:03We don't know what's in front of us.
14:06We don't know if we're bowling or not.
14:07But, in the back...
14:10Bowling is easy for people to say.
14:12But, no.
14:13Actually, it's mental.
14:14Bowling is mostly a mental game.
14:16We usually don't fight with the opponent.
14:21We fight with ourselves.
14:22Because when we're on the lane,
14:24we're only with the pin.
14:25So, people don't see how we fight inside.
14:29Sometimes, we get angry
14:30when the pin doesn't fall.
14:32But, when people see it from the outside,
14:35it's easy.
14:36But, it's difficult to go through it deeply.
14:40Because, if we're not mentally strong,
14:43our focus will be lost quickly.
14:45Everything will be disturbed.
14:47Everything will be affected.
14:49That's what I think.
14:50But, when people say,
14:52is it cold to play bowling?
14:54No, it's not.
14:55When we play,
14:56the pressure is high.
14:58We can get really angry sometimes.
15:02So, when we play,
15:05we play a lot of games.
15:078 games, 10 games.
15:09So, our focus has to be on the ball.
15:13And sometimes,
15:14when we bowl,
15:15it's not a light ball.
15:16So, our hands have to be strong.
15:19Our body has to play a role.
15:21Have you ever been disturbed during a tournament?
15:25Disturbed?
15:26Like,
15:27this kid is good.
15:28For example.
15:29Yes, sometimes.
15:30I was mentally disturbed.
15:33But, when I think about it,
15:34you're fighting against yourself.
15:36If you mentally disturb yourself,
15:37you won't be able to play.
15:39That's what I think sometimes.
15:40So, when you can't play,
15:42it's not about being open and disturbing.
15:45It's about yourself.
15:47Have you ever been angry at yourself?
15:49I have.
15:50But, it's not about being angry at myself.
15:52It's like,
15:53you should have done better.
15:54Why did you do this?
15:55It's just like that.
15:56How did you let it go?
15:58I'm not the type to get angry.
15:59So, I got angry for a while.
16:01Then, I was like,
16:02it's okay.
16:03Next tournament,
16:04you need to work better.
16:05After this, you have to train.
16:06You have to improve what you lost at that time.
16:09What you made a mistake at that time.
16:11That's how it was for me.
16:13Natasha, when it comes to this field,
16:18bowling,
16:20do you have a goal
16:22for the next 5 years?
16:24Or, in the next 5 years,
16:26do you want to be a coach?
16:28Or, how?
16:29For bowling,
16:31we don't have a limit.
16:33Because, in the US,
16:35there are seniors.
16:38Seniors who are over 50 years old.
16:40There are professional seniors.
16:42So, for me,
16:45as long as my body is okay,
16:47no injury,
16:48I'm injury-free,
16:49I will continue.
16:51But, if my body says
16:54it's not okay,
16:55or I'm injured,
16:57maybe I will change to be a coach
17:00to lower all the knowledge that I learned.
17:04When you jump into this field that you're interested in,
17:08at some point, you might feel like,
17:12life is not the same as other friends.
17:16Sacrificing your teenage years.
17:20If you're the same age as me,
17:22sometimes,
17:23we'll hang out on the weekend.
17:25But, sometimes,
17:28when I was young,
17:30but now,
17:33I try to at least
17:37meet my friends.
17:39And then, make sure I spend time with my family more.
17:42Because,
17:46time is the key for family.
17:49So, I make sure,
17:50even though I'm busy,
17:51I will spend time with my family,
17:54and I will meet my friends.
17:56Maybe once a week,
17:58to just catch up.
18:00And then,
18:01to release stress too.
18:02Because, sometimes,
18:03bowling is stressful too.
18:05So, we release stress.
18:07To meet friends or family.
18:09That's it.
18:10You've never regretted this choice?
18:12Alhamdulillah, I don't regret it.
18:13Because, I think,
18:17what I achieved is,
18:19one of my hard work since I was young.
18:22So, I will try to
18:26target more next year.
18:28And, if Allah wills it,
18:29to make sure I become a world champion.
18:31I won this year.
18:33Last year.
18:34So, I will try to make it next year.
18:36Next year, one more.
18:37If Allah wills it.
18:38From 7 years,
18:39until now,
18:40roughly,
18:42you've won a lot, Natasha?
18:44Alhamdulillah.
18:45Alhamdulillah, that's right.
18:46But, the highest,
18:47was last year.
18:49I won the world champion as a single.
18:52From 7 years,
18:54you became a world champion.
18:56That's right.
18:57That's why I said,
18:58my hard work paid off.
18:59Alhamdulillah.
19:00It's like, it paid off.
19:02But, there's one more,
19:03I want to target, if Allah wills it.
19:04To become a professional woman in the U.S.
19:08Or next year?
19:09If Allah wills it, next year.
19:12Natasha, when people give a perception,
19:15which is,
19:16being an athlete,
19:18you can be rich.
19:22Look at the spots, I think.
19:24Okay.
19:25For me,
19:28there's no such thing as being rich.
19:30But, Alhamdulillah,
19:31because we have
19:33funds from MSN.
19:35Okay.
19:36And also,
19:37when we win,
19:40all the money is ours.
19:43We don't have to share it.
19:45Alhamdulillah.
19:46So, all those things,
19:47life is not difficult for me.
19:51That means,
19:52success, right?
19:54That's your hard work.
19:55That's your incentive.
19:59Like,
20:00your victory.
20:02If Allah wills it,
20:03maybe one day,
20:04you want to train abroad.
20:09If Allah wills it,
20:10because I think,
20:12if you want to compare,
20:13in Malaysia and the U.S.,
20:15the U.S.'s
20:19way,
20:20how do you say,
20:21their technique is better.
20:24But now, in Malaysia,
20:26we're slowly coming up.
20:28So, if I have,
20:31an opportunity,
20:32I will train there.
20:34But,
20:35not for a long time.
20:37Just for a while.
20:38And then, come back.
20:39Once we get the knowledge,
20:40we can pass it on to the juniors.
20:43That's it for me.
20:47And we also know,
20:49when an athlete,
20:51again,
20:52who has an appearance,
20:54a face like Natasha,
20:57sometimes gets offers
20:59from other people.
21:00Maybe,
21:01you want to be a model,
21:03or be in the entertainment field,
21:06or get offers.
21:07Do you have one, Natasha?
21:08So far, I don't have one yet.
21:10But,
21:11I really,
21:13first,
21:14I'm still an athlete.
21:16Because,
21:17I really like bowling.
21:18I like the feeling,
21:20when we get,
21:22when the national anthem is sung,
21:24in another country.
21:26I think,
21:27that will always be
21:29my number one.
21:31If one day, you have one?
21:33If God wills it.
21:34If God wills it,
21:35I will try my best.
21:37Who knows, right?
21:39If God wills it.
21:40If there is a blessing,
21:41I will try my best.
21:42If God wills it,
21:43I will try my best.
21:44Yes.
21:45And,
21:47among the people,
21:48we know,
21:50the bowling athlete,
21:52the national bowling queen,
21:53we know, right?
21:54We have,
21:55Dato' Shalin Zurkevli,
21:57and then,
21:58there are a few other names,
21:59that we know,
22:00are famous abroad.
22:03Among all of them,
22:04who is the closest to you?
22:07Have you ever coached them?
22:10I have coached,
22:12Dato' Shalin Zurkevli,
22:15and then,
22:16recently,
22:17I coached my own teammate,
22:18Silly Jane,
22:20who just won in the US.
22:22And,
22:23other than that,
22:24I,
22:25with my seniors,
22:26all of them,
22:27Alhamdulillah,
22:28we are close.
22:29So,
22:30me and Dato' Shalin,
22:32we do communicate,
22:34if I have a question,
22:36she will help me.
22:37Like that.
22:38We still have contact.
22:39I remember,
22:40the athlete,
22:41Syed Yatul Afifah.
22:42Yes,
22:43yes,
22:44that's right.
22:45Former national bowling queen,
22:47and,
22:48she was in the acting field.
22:49That's right.
22:50That's right.
22:52It's a different step.
22:53Yes, that's right.
22:54Natasha,
22:56like you said earlier,
22:57you wanted to try,
23:00netball.
23:02I was a school representative for netball,
23:05with handball.
23:06With handball.
23:07So,
23:08you immediately forgot those two hobbies?
23:11My mom didn't let me.
23:12Why?
23:13Because she was afraid of getting injured.
23:15Because she said,
23:16the hand is important for bowling.
23:17At that time,
23:18I said, okay.
23:19I listened to my mom.
23:20Okay.
23:22That was the last time you played, right?
23:24I was a representative,
23:26until,
23:27I got an offer.
23:28At that time.
23:29But after that,
23:30I thought,
23:31because at that time,
23:32I clashed with bowling.
23:33So,
23:34I wanted to play bowling too.
23:35So,
23:36at that time,
23:37I had to choose one.
23:38I had to choose one.
23:39I didn't want to,
23:40both of them,
23:41must be out.
23:42So,
23:43I chose one,
23:44I went to bowling.
23:45Which I think,
23:46the right choice.
23:47The right choice.
23:48That's what people say,
23:49listen to your mom.
23:50Listen to your mom,
23:51that's right.
23:52Everything must be listened to.
23:53So, that's right.
23:54Thank you, mommy.
23:57Do you have any other siblings?
23:58In Soekarno?
23:59My younger brother,
24:00but,
24:01he only got to Soekarno-Selangor.
24:03After that,
24:04he stopped to study.
24:05Bowling too?
24:06He played bowling too.
24:08Maybe,
24:09his choice was different.
24:10His choice was different, right.
24:11Different.
24:12My brother,
24:13everyone has their own line.
24:15The first brother,
24:16business.
24:17Second, music.
24:18Number three,
24:19he's a doctor.
24:20So, everyone has their own branch.
24:22Everyone has their own branch.
24:23You're in the field of...
24:24Sports.
24:26And you have to take care of it, right.
24:28When you inject,
24:29it's more difficult to...
24:30That's it.
24:31If you want to play...
24:32Sometimes,
24:33if you want to play like...
24:34other sports,
24:35you have to be careful.
24:36Because,
24:37if we suddenly play badminton,
24:39that can also be injected.
24:40And the last time,
24:41your own sport also,
24:42you can't play.
24:43Things like that,
24:44we have to be careful.
24:47Natasha,
24:48when we talk about
24:49the world of bowling too,
24:52like you said,
24:53you shared it.
24:54People see it,
24:55it's just fun, right.
24:56Falling,
24:57writing.
24:58On the other hand,
24:59few people know.
25:00But,
25:02what are the things that maybe,
25:05when we talk about bowling,
25:07in your career,
25:08you think if you invest it back,
25:10oh, okay,
25:11this journey is not easy,
25:12actually.
25:13What gives you education,
25:15Natasha?
25:16Because I,
25:17I have an education for myself,
25:20even though,
25:21I have won many awards,
25:23many tournaments,
25:25I will make sure,
25:27I'm down to earth.
25:28I will,
25:29don't,
25:30don't think too much.
25:32Or,
25:33whatever you win,
25:35is the beginning,
25:37the start of your life.
25:38So,
25:39for me,
25:40to continue,
25:42to achieve something better.
25:44So,
25:45I don't,
25:46I always,
25:47when I enter a tournament,
25:48I don't put a lot of,
25:49I don't put a lot of pressure on myself.
25:51I just make sure I enjoy it.
25:53And then,
25:55that's it.
25:56Like I said,
25:57things,
25:58outside the environment,
25:59a lot of people will talk,
26:01like,
26:02oh, it's easy.
26:03No,
26:04we know how it is.
26:06Right?
26:07But, have you ever been down?
26:10I have.
26:11But,
26:12I have,
26:13you lost.
26:14I lost,
26:15but,
26:16I will make sure,
26:17actually,
26:18if I play badly,
26:19I won't hold my phone for a while.
26:20Because,
26:21like,
26:22I'm afraid I'll have to,
26:23I'll have to break it.
26:24I'll have to break everything.
26:25So,
26:26but I will make sure,
26:27after I open it,
26:28I will always get messages from my parents,
26:30who always support me,
26:32even though,
26:33whatever I go through.
26:35And,
26:36that's what makes me feel,
26:37oh,
26:38even though,
26:39outsiders talk about you,
26:40but your parents is always there,
26:41your family is always there.
26:42So,
26:43I will fight for them,
26:44and also,
26:45for those who always support me from behind.
26:47But,
26:48how dare you read the comments?
26:50Sometimes,
26:52I have to.
26:53But,
26:54bowling,
26:55I think it's a bit less,
26:56compared to other sports.
26:57Right.
26:58Because we,
26:59Rarely, right?
27:00Rarely.
27:01Yes.
27:02So,
27:03now I want to try,
27:04to attract more people,
27:07outsiders,
27:08to like bowling.
27:09Like,
27:10at least we get support from,
27:13outsiders.
27:14Right.
27:15But,
27:16if you look at the bowling alley,
27:17it's full of people, Natasha.
27:18But,
27:19it's just for fun.
27:20Yes,
27:21it's just for fun.
27:22Because,
27:23it's for entertainment.
27:24It's for fun.
27:25Right.
27:26But,
27:27that has made us,
27:28people say,
27:29oh,
27:30bowling,
27:31everyone likes to play.
27:32That's one step for us.
27:33But,
27:34maybe people have seen,
27:35bowling shoes,
27:36are expensive.
27:38It can be,
27:39because,
27:40bowling balls,
27:41with shoes,
27:42what,
27:43are expensive.
27:44Right.
27:45But,
27:46it's the same with,
27:47golf clubs,
27:48badminton,
27:49maybe,
27:50or squash,
27:51all of them are expensive.
27:52But,
27:53still,
27:54if people,
27:55have a passion towards,
27:56bowling,
27:57they will still,
27:58buy it.
27:59Right.
28:00So,
28:01maybe,
28:02as an athlete,
28:03what do you always,
28:04if you want,
28:05if you want,
28:06Natasha,
28:07maybe go to school,
28:08meet our school brothers,
28:09it's fun,
28:10talking to them,
28:11who are interested in,
28:12bowling.
28:13What are the,
28:14important things,
28:15that they need to know,
28:16actually?
28:17For me,
28:18don't give up.
28:20Okay.
28:21Because,
28:22if we try something,
28:23and we don't get it,
28:24that's one step,
28:25for us to,
28:26improve ourselves.
28:28And,
28:29if we fail,
28:30or we don't,
28:31win,
28:33we have to,
28:34reflect back.
28:35Like,
28:36learn from our mistakes.
28:37And,
28:38these things,
28:39will move,
28:40move us forward.
28:41And,
28:42make sure,
28:43for me,
28:44just enjoy,
28:45whatever you're doing,
28:46and,
28:47that's it,
28:48don't give up.
28:49Because,
28:50if we give up,
28:51that's it,
28:52our journey.
28:53Okay.
28:54But,
28:55to be honest,
28:56you've never expected,
28:57to be,
28:58in your current situation,
28:59Natasha?
29:00I've never,
29:01put any target,
29:02to myself.
29:03But,
29:04before,
29:05I played bowling,
29:06my father said,
29:07if you really want to play bowling,
29:08make sure,
29:09you go all out.
29:10Don't be like,
29:11you stop,
29:12for a while.
29:13Or,
29:14he said,
29:15be a village boy,
29:16like that.
29:17So,
29:18I take,
29:19all that,
29:20spirit,
29:21to push myself,
29:22and prove to them,
29:23that okay,
29:24I can do it.
29:25And,
29:26you're lucky,
29:27because your parents,
29:28are very supportive,
29:29right?
29:30That's right,
29:31Alhamdulillah.
29:32My parents and family,
29:33really,
29:34if I have a game,
29:35in the morning,
29:36they will wake up,
29:37to watch.
29:38Yes.
29:39That means,
29:40they're still there,
29:41with you.
29:42That's right,
29:43always.
29:44And then,
29:45if there's a certain tournament,
29:46in Malaysia,
29:47they will come,
29:48to support.
29:49That means,
29:50they give,
29:51100%.
29:52100%.
29:53100% trust,
29:54to you.
29:55If not,
29:56from the age of 7,
29:57they have given support.
29:58That's right.
29:59Because,
30:00I think,
30:01if there's no support,
30:02no support from family,
30:03I don't think,
30:04I will stand here,
30:05either.
30:06I won't push myself,
30:07to,
30:08become a better person.
30:09That's right.
30:10And,
30:11the result,
30:12we can see,
30:13your house is full.
30:14Alhamdulillah.
30:15Yes.
30:16I can add more,
30:17InsyaAllah.
30:18Right?
30:19How old are you now, Natasha?
30:20Age?
30:2128.
30:22Still young.
30:24No, I'm still young.
30:25So, don't get married yet?
30:26Oh, okay.
30:28If not,
30:29you will grow up early.
30:32Isn't there always,
30:33an imam like that?
30:34Right?
30:35But,
30:36yes,
30:37it's okay,
30:38InsyaAllah.
30:39So, you won't give,
30:40more?
30:41I'm okay.
30:44She said,
30:45later.
30:46You said,
30:47later.
30:48I said,
30:49later,
30:50I want to win more.
30:51Okay.
30:52So, later,
30:53it's okay to focus.
30:54But,
30:55at that time,
30:56we,
30:57when,
30:58I don't know,
30:59if Natasha agrees with me,
31:00or not.
31:01Because,
31:02usually,
31:03wherever,
31:04no matter what,
31:05when,
31:06she will try,
31:07to slow down,
31:08her success.
31:09That's right.
31:10I agree too.
31:11For a woman,
31:12it's still,
31:13a little less.
31:14Because,
31:15we have a lot,
31:16responsibilities.
31:17Yes.
31:18Now,
31:19this single,
31:20it's easy.
31:21You just think of yourself.
31:22Take care of yourself.
31:23Take care of yourself.
31:24You don't have to take care,
31:25of other people's hearts.
31:26That's right.
31:31In,
31:32in,
31:33bowling itself,
31:34one thing,
31:35maybe,
31:36if,
31:37given a choice,
31:38to Natasha,
31:40we go back,
31:41you want to try,
31:42to fix the situation,
31:43where is it?
31:46I want to try,
31:47to fix it.
31:48I think,
31:49Alhamdulillah,
31:52it's not fair,
31:53for me.
31:54Because,
31:55I also have a few,
31:56like that year,
31:57I didn't perform.
31:58But,
31:59Alhamdulillah,
32:00the next year,
32:01I won something.
32:02And,
32:03start 2016,
32:04every year,
32:05I won,
32:06one,
32:07competition.
32:08So,
32:09for me,
32:10Alhamdulillah,
32:11this year,
32:12is the best year.
32:13But,
32:15before this,
32:16since 2015,
32:17until 2024,
32:19I,
32:20have,
32:21achievements that,
32:22every tournament,
32:23I brought back,
32:24medal.
32:25If you didn't perform,
32:26why Natasha?
32:27Maybe,
32:28maybe one,
32:29like injury.
32:30Okay.
32:31Or,
32:32I,
32:33not ready.
32:34Or,
32:35you're nervous.
32:36Yes.
32:39When the emotion doesn't stop.
32:40Maybe,
32:42one more,
32:43maybe because,
32:44the lane is not suitable,
32:46that thing is a factor.
32:48But,
32:50are you active in social media too?
32:53I,
32:54Instagram,
32:55and,
32:56a few,
32:57Facebook.
32:58So,
32:59many get DM,
33:00asking,
33:01or what?
33:02Yes, that's right.
33:03And,
33:04when people ask me,
33:05how to play bowling,
33:06or how to bowl,
33:07I will,
33:08explain,
33:09and help reply.
33:10Because,
33:11for me,
33:12I'm happy,
33:13because there are people,
33:14interested in,
33:15sports bowling.
33:16Yes.
33:17Because,
33:18that day,
33:19it was viral too.
33:20There were 5 kids.
33:21Yes,
33:22kids,
33:23children.
33:24That's right.
33:25That's good too,
33:26because,
33:27exposure for them.
33:28Look,
33:29I think,
33:30if you look at them,
33:317 years ago,
33:32we didn't have the virus,
33:33now,
33:34we have the virus.
33:38Other than,
33:39to achieve,
33:40one more thing,
33:41like Natasha said,
33:42professional,
33:43tournament,
33:44right?
33:45What else,
33:46is your dream,
33:47in,
33:48bowling?
33:49That you want,
33:50to get later.
33:51I hope,
33:52one day,
33:53bowling in the Olympics.
33:54Yes.
33:55That's my hope.
33:57Even though,
33:58at that time,
33:59I couldn't play anymore,
34:00but,
34:01for the next generation,
34:02that will come again.
34:03So,
34:04I hope,
34:05if bowling in the Olympics,
34:06we,
34:07God willing,
34:08we can bring back,
34:09medals for Malaysia.
34:10They're afraid,
34:11the Malaysian team,
34:12if bowling in the Olympics.
34:13Maybe,
34:14because they got the medal,
34:15the first medal for Malaysia.
34:16Yes.
34:17But,
34:18I'm happy too,
34:19because squash,
34:20is about to enter.
34:21That's right.
34:22So,
34:23my hope is,
34:24after this,
34:25we follow squash,
34:26after this,
34:27bowling.
34:28But,
34:30Yes,
34:31if I have a chance,
34:32I want to play.
34:33God willing.
34:34Ameen.
34:35God willing.
34:36Natasha,
34:37one more thing,
34:38maybe,
34:39people always ask,
34:40about,
34:41especially,
34:42this bowling sport,
34:43right?
34:44To maintain,
34:45that momentum,
34:46it's definitely difficult.
34:47Because,
34:48especially,
34:49if,
34:50well,
34:51a long opponent,
34:52that's right,
34:53a big opponent.
34:54Because,
34:55we,
34:56we train,
34:57every day,
34:58every day.
34:59So,
35:00How long,
35:01every day?
35:022 hours.
35:03But,
35:04if it's like an official game,
35:05we will train 2 sessions,
35:06in the morning and in the afternoon.
35:07So,
35:08you have to spin it?
35:09Spin.
35:10Just spin it,
35:11for 2 hours.
35:12How heavy is the ball?
35:13Now,
35:14I lift 7 kg,
35:1515 pounds.
35:16Okay.
35:17So,
35:18we,
35:19maybe,
35:20because we train every day,
35:21and,
35:22we meet friends,
35:23almost every day,
35:24our momentum,
35:25when we play together,
35:28it's normal,
35:29if our body,
35:30has adapted to that.
35:32That situation.
35:33That situation.
35:34So,
35:35when we play 10 games,
35:36it's really tiring.
35:37But,
35:38because we always,
35:39go through worse,
35:41and we had an Asian game,
35:438 hours,
35:44at bowling.
35:45So,
35:46and we still won.
35:48So,
35:49at that time,
35:50we felt,
35:51whatever it is,
35:52the body has to fit,
35:53and also,
35:54what you train,
35:55when you train,
35:56you have to do it during the tournament.
35:57It's the same thing.
35:58Yes.
36:00Besides,
36:01you're good at,
36:02then,
36:03you're good at,
36:04what?
36:05Making,
36:06cakes.
36:07Cakes, right?
36:08I try.
36:09What else,
36:10that you're interested in,
36:11actually,
36:12that,
36:13one day,
36:14you want to make?
36:15I,
36:16that's all,
36:17I'm interested in.
36:18Because,
36:19mostly,
36:20I don't have much time.
36:21So,
36:22when we have a lot of time,
36:23I mostly spend time with my family.
36:25And,
36:26usually,
36:28I go to the tournament.
36:30Like,
36:31I will fly,
36:32this New Year,
36:33InsyaAllah,
36:34until the 16th of the month.
36:35So,
36:36my time for,
36:37my family is less.
36:38And I will make sure,
36:39when I'm at home,
36:40I will,
36:41Yes,
36:42at home,
36:43spend time with family.
36:44Yes.
36:45It's impossible not to spend time with them,
36:47on daily basis,
36:48or,
36:49during our special moments.
36:51I have,
36:52I have celebrated 2 years,
36:53or 1 year,
36:54in the U.S.
36:55And,
36:56but,
36:57because,
36:58I celebrate with my team,
37:00so,
37:01we celebrate in the U.S. too.
37:02But,
37:03only away from family.
37:04Yes.
37:05And,
37:06fasting is also there.
37:07Hmm.
37:08That's how she is, right?
37:09Yes.
37:10That's how she is,
37:11a follower.
37:12Yes,
37:13that's right.
37:14Not for yourself,
37:15actually,
37:16but for the country, right?
37:17Bringing the country's name is very,
37:18very big.
37:19That's right.
37:20Yes.
37:21Especially,
37:22when,
37:23you know,
37:24you have to win,
37:25for the country.
37:26Yes.
37:27You must feel like,
37:28yes,
37:29what people,
37:30people have put,
37:31full of hope, right?
37:32That's right.
37:33The Malaysian people,
37:34have to bring it back,
37:35have to bring it back.
37:36That's right.
37:37The family is the same,
37:38want to see their children win.
37:39That's right.
37:40All of that,
37:41is heavy.
37:42So, every,
37:43every shot for me,
37:44is important.
37:45Every shot,
37:46before throwing it.
37:47Yes,
37:48when you want to throw it,
37:49you remember,
37:50okay,
37:51this is like this.
37:53What advice,
37:54did your mother give you,
37:55when there's a big tournament?
37:58My mother always said,
37:59just do your best.
38:00Okay.
38:01And then,
38:02just play your games,
38:03because,
38:04you've come this far.
38:06And then,
38:07certain things,
38:08my mother,
38:09she's been following me since I was little.
38:10So,
38:11when I miss a pair,
38:12she'll get angry.
38:13So,
38:14that thing will be brought,
38:15until I hit it.
38:16So,
38:17sometimes,
38:18when I miss something,
38:19I just imagine,
38:20oh,
38:21my mother is angry.
38:22Okay,
38:23I have to play it again.
38:24Like that.
38:25More or less.
38:26Yes.
38:27But,
38:28those things,
38:29become...
38:30My spirit.
38:31Yes.
38:32And try to fix those things.
38:33Yes.
38:34And of course,
38:35those things,
38:36become moments,
38:37that you'll remember.
38:38Because,
38:39one day,
38:40maybe,
38:41this success,
38:42will no longer be,
38:43your success.
38:44Right?
38:45Yes.
38:46We already know.
38:48So,
38:49in the last few minutes,
38:50what can you say,
38:52to those people,
38:54who feel,
38:55that,
38:58especially,
38:59our fishermen,
39:00right?
39:01Sometimes,
39:02yes,
39:03we know,
39:04these fishermen,
39:05there's a time,
39:06they will be,
39:07very brave,
39:08for those fishermen.
39:10But when,
39:11for example,
39:12we lose,
39:13they'll get angry,
39:14and so on.
39:15Right?
39:16You also go through that.
39:17I,
39:18for me,
39:19I feel,
39:20continue to support us.
39:22Even though,
39:23we lose,
39:24or win,
39:25that's a game.
39:26And,
39:27it's not just one tournament,
39:29that we can prove.
39:31There are many other tournaments,
39:33that we can prove.
39:34But,
39:35Alhamdulillah,
39:36the fans,
39:37for bowling,
39:38it's not the type,
39:39that is,
39:40cruel.
39:41So,
39:42I'm grateful,
39:43and I hope,
39:44they will always,
39:45support us,
39:46Team Malaysia.
39:47And also,
39:48always,
39:51give the best,
39:52for us.
39:53We will always,
39:54give the best,
39:55for Malaysia.
39:56And,
39:57if possible,
39:58don't,
39:59don't give up,
40:00support us.
40:01Because,
40:02we also need,
40:03support from,
40:04people outside.
40:06So,
40:07for us,
40:08to raise the spirit,
40:09for the name,
40:10to make the country proud.
40:12That's right.
40:13Because,
40:14those words,
40:15also give the spirit.
40:16That's right.
40:17The positive thing,
40:18also make us,
40:19mind,
40:20okay,
40:21we should,
40:22give,
40:23support us.
40:24So,
40:25we should prove,
40:26for the people.
40:27That's right.
40:28Yes,
40:29we can't deny that,
40:30everyone has their own opinion.
40:31But,
40:32the one,
40:33who has the responsibility,
40:34is you,
40:35as an athlete,
40:36of our country.
40:37Right, Tasha?
40:38That's right.
40:39But,
40:40when I read,
40:41those positive words,
40:42I feel happy.
40:43I'm negative,
40:44just close your eyes.
40:45So,
40:46how dare you read,
40:47those comments?
40:48Because,
40:49I said,
40:50Malaysian supporters,
40:51for bowling,
40:52are less,
40:53they give negative.
40:54No,
40:55I rarely read,
40:56and mostly,
40:57all are positive.
40:58That's right.
40:59Because,
41:00we are among,
41:01I think,
41:02bowling is among,
41:03I feel great,
41:04in the world,
41:05of bowling itself.
41:06Because,
41:07we bring back,
41:08we always bring back medals,
41:09for every event.
41:10Alhamdulillah.
41:11I feel,
41:12even though I,
41:13when I play,
41:14I'm short.
41:15But,
41:16we are all short too.
41:17But,
41:18I like to watch,
41:19bowling.
41:20I'm amazed,
41:21how,
41:22I play,
41:23I fall,
41:24I'm short.
41:25We are short too,
41:26but,
41:27look,
41:28how we train,
41:29every day.
41:30That's why,
41:31we have to have,
41:32people say,
41:33we have to have interest.
41:34That's right.
41:35Put it,
41:36the choice is right.
41:37Alhamdulillah.
41:38And,
41:39and of course,
41:40like Natasha shared,
41:41success,
41:42on the day too,
41:43of course,
41:44from the support,
41:45of parents,
41:46family,
41:47and yes,
41:48words,
41:49from them too,
41:50right?
41:51And the most important,
41:52yourself actually.
41:53That's right.
41:54If there is no will,
41:55I feel,
41:56maybe Natasha is not,
41:58in the position now.
41:59That's right.
42:00Right?
42:02Thank you, Natasha.
42:05I hope,
42:06what you dream of,
42:08will succeed,
42:09for the biggest tournament,
42:10later.
42:11InsyaAllah.
42:12Right?
42:13What is told,
42:14what is hoped for too,
42:15and yes,
42:16we bring,
42:17we understand,
42:18when you leave the country,
42:19you bring the name of the country,
42:20and also,
42:21the voices of our citizens.
42:24That's right.
42:25I'm afraid to hear.
42:26Yes, right?
42:27When,
42:28I feel the pressure.
42:29Yes,
42:30you can feel it too, right?
42:32That's right.
42:33Wearing,
42:34what is it,
42:35the suit,
42:36the suit,
42:37that.
42:38When there is a flag on the chest,
42:39we also feel the pressure.
42:40That's right.
42:41We can feel that thing.
42:43So, we wish you all the success.
42:46And,
42:47what do people say?
42:48Yes, be happy,
42:49if there is this,
42:50for the future,
42:51right?
42:52With,
42:53success.
42:54Thank you for having me also.
42:58So, see you again,
42:59in Confession of a Glamour.
43:00Okay, bye-bye.
43:13Bye-bye.
43:14Bye-bye.
43:15Bye.