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00:00:00On New Year's Day last year, Meiko Nakamura passed away at the age of 89.
00:00:11This time, she appeared on a past program three months before she passed away.
00:00:18I'm the best in the village.
00:00:22This is a special edition of TSUITO, which includes unpublished videos for the first time in about 30 minutes.
00:00:32There are people who are weirder than me.
00:00:36Do you know today's guest well?
00:00:39I know her well.
00:00:42I know her daughter.
00:00:44Do you have two daughters?
00:00:46I often eat with her.
00:00:50Do you often eat with her at work?
00:00:52I rarely work.
00:00:55What is your impression of her mother?
00:00:59In the past, she often appeared on various programs.
00:01:05There was a program called Kikeba Kikuhodo, but it was a long time ago.
00:01:10It's been a long time since I've seen her like this.
00:01:14I saw her on a talk show the other day.
00:01:18Since then, we have become very close.
00:01:22When I see her, I can't stop laughing.
00:01:26I think she has two daughters and three children.
00:01:30It's like a manzai trio.
00:01:32Anyone can do that.
00:01:35Today's guest is Meiko Nakamura.
00:01:41I can hear the history of the entertainment industry.
00:01:45She made her debut at the age of two and a half and became an actress.
00:01:4990 years?
00:01:53Is there such a person?
00:01:55I don't think so.
00:01:57There hasn't been anyone in the entertainment industry for 90 years.
00:02:01She's been around all the time.
00:02:04I don't think there's anyone in the entertainment industry who has a story at home.
00:02:11It's like a historian.
00:02:13I'm sorry.
00:02:15Let's get started.
00:02:18You're a great person.
00:02:22The legend of the Showa entertainment industry.
00:02:25Meiko Nakamura.
00:02:28I don't do that.
00:02:30If you look this way, it's called Rokka.
00:02:32A relationship unknown to the general public, as seen in textbooks.
00:02:36When Takuya Tanaka was a guest.
00:02:40And the last farewell with Showa singer and best friend Hibari Misora.
00:02:47I didn't say a word about what to do with Meiko.
00:02:50Give this to crying Meiko.
00:02:54It's sad, isn't it?
00:02:58Tsube and Sagako.
00:03:01The great seniors of the Showa era and the strange Hibari.
00:03:05Laugh and cry tonight.
00:03:08Meiko Nakamura special.
00:03:13I was very happy to meet you like this today.
00:03:17I'm talking to you in this studio at 90 years old.
00:03:24How did you feel when you were asked to do this?
00:03:28I thought it would be interesting.
00:03:31I know both hosts.
00:03:34I'm glad to be a guest here.
00:03:39I was happy, too.
00:03:42I think I can do something interesting with Torio.
00:03:45What are you talking about?
00:03:48If you're really fine,
00:03:51I know when my legs are fine.
00:03:57I was in a wheelchair when I met you today.
00:04:01I was a little surprised.
00:04:03Ha-chan followed me.
00:04:05Hazuki-san, too.
00:04:07Ha-chan, thank you for your help every day.
00:04:10When did you become a wheelchair?
00:04:13It's a complex hip joint.
00:04:17I've been a wheelchair since I was in the hospital.
00:04:21I tried to walk at home because I didn't want to.
00:04:27Did you have a complex hip joint?
00:04:30That's right.
00:04:31I tripped.
00:04:33I've been tripping a lot lately.
00:04:36When you get older.
00:04:38I tripped the other day.
00:04:40I happened to go to Fukui the other day.
00:04:42I went to Aoyama Hosoidori.
00:04:44I took a picture of the place.
00:04:47I followed everyone who came out.
00:04:51I tripped diagonally.
00:04:53That's dangerous.
00:04:55I took a picture and everyone who came out was gone.
00:04:58That's terrible.
00:05:00I thought I shouldn't ask such a person.
00:05:03You should have helped me.
00:05:05I helped you, but I was afraid that other people would fall.
00:05:09You must have been scared.
00:05:12I thought it would be a big deal.
00:05:14It wasn't a big deal at all.
00:05:16It's dangerous for a dancer like me.
00:05:19Didn't you fall?
00:05:21I can fall.
00:05:23I broke my little finger twice at the corner of the bed.
00:05:29I thought I could easily pass through here.
00:05:32I hit it.
00:05:34That's just a sprain.
00:05:37It's a sprain.
00:05:39You're laughing.
00:05:41What is it?
00:05:43Mr. Kozu made the food.
00:05:46I broke my leg.
00:05:48You don't cook anymore?
00:05:50I don't cook.
00:05:52I don't want Mr. Kozu to get hurt.
00:05:55I don't want him to fall again.
00:05:57You're good.
00:05:59I fall again.
00:06:01It's annoying, so I fall.
00:06:04What kind of food do you make?
00:06:06I make everything.
00:06:08Everything.
00:06:10I'm passionate about research.
00:06:13I want to marry a doctor.
00:06:16I really don't want to.
00:06:18You don't want to, do you?
00:06:20You're doing it because you have a bad leg.
00:06:23That may be true, but it makes sense.
00:06:26You have to put up with it.
00:06:28But when I think about it, there are a lot of men like Mr. Itamai and Mr. Koku.
00:06:34They're good.
00:06:36I fall again.
00:06:38You have to be grateful for that.
00:06:41Yes.
00:06:45We've been dating for a long time.
00:06:48Since when?
00:06:51He was drinking with my father in Ginza.
00:06:55He was drinking with my father.
00:06:57I was a one-night flipper.
00:06:59He was a one-night flipper.
00:07:02I don't remember.
00:07:04He was a one-night flipper.
00:07:07You haven't changed your voice yet.
00:07:10I haven't changed it yet.
00:07:12My father, who hated TV, was moved by his voice.
00:07:16He called me right away.
00:07:18I remember being there.
00:07:20Really?
00:07:22My father said it was great.
00:07:24You were in love with him.
00:07:26But it wasn't just my father.
00:07:29Everyone in Japan knows that.
00:07:32At that time, the entertainment industry was really luxurious.
00:07:37Even if you talk about the entertainment industry now, everyone knows.
00:07:40If you look this way, it's Mr. Enoken.
00:07:42If you look this way, it's Mr. Roppa.
00:07:44Wait a minute.
00:07:46It's the era of Enoken and Roppa.
00:07:48It's the era of Enoken and Roppa.
00:07:50It's based on Watanabe's juice.
00:07:52That's a new one.
00:07:54It's based on Watanabe's juice.
00:07:56It's based on Watanabe's juice.
00:07:59That's after the war.
00:08:02That's before the war.
00:08:04You made your debut in a movie when you were two and a half years old.
00:08:09That's right. I was two years and eight months old.
00:08:12Noriko Awaya.
00:08:14Bruce, who broke up with her, became a hit.
00:08:16Futabayama became a sidekick.
00:08:18Showa 12.
00:08:21Mr. Meiko, who made her debut in a movie when she was two and a half years old.
00:08:29You remember that time, don't you?
00:08:31I remember.
00:08:33I remember when I made NG.
00:08:35Do you remember making NG?
00:08:37I thought I made a mistake.
00:08:41You're an actress.
00:08:43I felt really bad.
00:08:45Did you feel bad?
00:08:47I said, I'm sorry.
00:08:51That's amazing.
00:08:53I said, I'm sorry.
00:08:55I said, I'm sorry.
00:08:57Mr. Enokin is so funny that I can't stand it.
00:09:03Everyone is serious now.
00:09:07I'm doing a lot of things because I'm joking.
00:09:11I'm holding back because I think I shouldn't do a lot of things.
00:09:14Is that okay?
00:09:16Is that okay?
00:09:18You're good.
00:09:20No, I'm serious.
00:09:22Isn't it fun to work?
00:09:24Do you work from such a place?
00:09:26That's right.
00:09:28I haven't been able to take off my diaper yet.
00:09:32What did your mother do?
00:09:36My mother is a modern girl with a lot of hair.
00:09:41I don't think I've ever had a baby.
00:09:46You've never had a baby?
00:09:48Was your mother like that?
00:09:51Was your mother like your mother?
00:09:54Yes, she wasn't very family-oriented.
00:09:58Does your mother cook?
00:10:00Yes, she does.
00:10:02But she wasn't very family-oriented.
00:10:05My mother is a modern girl with a lot of heart.
00:10:10My father said,
00:10:12I don't want to write war literature, so I'll take a break.
00:10:16My mother said,
00:10:18Please write what you want to write.
00:10:21But I couldn't write what I wanted to write.
00:10:24Because it was a war.
00:10:26So my mother worked all by herself.
00:10:29Did your mother work?
00:10:31Yes.
00:10:32Did your mother support your life?
00:10:34Yes.
00:10:35Did your mother support your life?
00:10:38No, she didn't.
00:10:40She didn't support your life?
00:10:42No, she didn't.
00:10:43She was a two-year-old girl.
00:10:45Yes, she was a housekeeper.
00:10:47I see.
00:10:48She didn't support my life.
00:10:51You were treated like a genius girl.
00:10:54You became famous overnight.
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00:12:33So, you knew everything when you were a kid, didn't you?
00:12:37That's why I had to speak difficult lines.
00:12:40I said, I spoke.
00:12:42Do you remember?
00:12:43I don't remember at all now.
00:12:45It's strange that you remember so much.
00:12:48Is that so?
00:12:50I was going to be an actress.
00:12:52My father was a humorist.
00:12:55That's right. My father was a writer who said that he could only write bright and interesting things.
00:13:03That's why I remember him as a cartoonist.
00:13:08He had a funny face.
00:13:12He said, Is this a girl?
00:13:14Nakamura?
00:13:16Meiko?
00:13:18It's written as May.
00:13:20You can't read it in English now because of the war.
00:13:24I see.
00:13:26That's why it's written as May in Katakana.
00:13:31Nakamura Meiko is the real name.
00:13:35That's why you were born as Kanna and Hazuki.
00:13:38The eldest daughter was Kanna.
00:13:40The second daughter was born in August.
00:13:43You were born as Hazuki.
00:13:45Did you have two children, Kikuchi and Kanna?
00:13:47Yes.
00:13:48You had two children, Kikuchi and Kanna?
00:13:50Yes.
00:13:51After this, when he was two and a half years old, he had a meal with a novelist, Kikuchi and Kanna.
00:13:56It was a funny episode.
00:13:58What?
00:13:59Don't make fun of me.
00:14:01He is the father of a famous humor novelist, Nakamura Meiko.
00:14:21My father wrote this.
00:14:23My father asked me why I made macaroni.
00:14:29I told him,
00:14:32Then he said,
00:14:34The person who was looking at something pushed out of the macaroni hole thought he wanted to make spaghetti out of it.
00:14:43My father said that.
00:14:45He told me when I was in primary school.
00:14:49Do you still remember it?
00:14:51If you remember it since then, you can't be stupid anymore.
00:14:55No, I'm stupid now.
00:14:58I talked to Ha-chan on the phone yesterday with Hazuki-san.
00:15:01To find out how she's doing, I went to see Meiko-san directly.
00:15:05You went to the doctor, didn't you?
00:15:07She said, I can't do it. I really can't do it.
00:15:10She's scary, isn't she?
00:15:13She's scary, isn't she?
00:15:14Both Kanna and Hazuki are scary.
00:15:17The other day, there were three people on TV.
00:15:19Kanna-san, Hazuki-san, and Meiko-san.
00:15:21I said, wow, you remember a two-and-a-half-year-old.
00:15:24She said, I'll forget about yesterday.
00:15:27But it's really true.
00:15:29That's why I tell Kanna and Hazuki these days.
00:15:32Mom, I think this is the first time I've told you this,
00:15:36but I've told you before.
00:15:38The second time? The third time?
00:15:40Well, the fifth time.
00:15:44That's great.
00:15:45I don't want to do it.
00:15:46That's fine.
00:15:47Kanna calmed down with her low voice.
00:15:51It's all classic Japanese.
00:15:53Meiko-san's story.
00:15:55It's funny even if you hear it five times.
00:15:58Be confident and say it five times.
00:16:00The first time I met Kanna,
00:16:03Meiko-san's father, Kanna-san's grandfather,
00:16:07was in front of her grandfather.
00:16:09It was raining really hard at home.
00:16:12Kanna-san, who was a little girl, said,
00:16:15it's raining cats and dogs.
00:16:17Then her grandfather said,
00:16:18don't say that!
00:16:20You can't express things with such a long speech.
00:16:23Express it with your own words.
00:16:25That's what he said.
00:16:27It's raining cats and dogs.
00:16:29It's raining cats and dogs.
00:16:31It's raining cats and dogs.
00:16:33Think about it like that.
00:16:35Don't use what people have said.
00:16:37Don't use what people have said.
00:16:39I think Kanna-san's father
00:16:41had a really unique education.
00:16:44Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:16:46When Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san
00:16:49were going to have a meal,
00:16:51Kikuchi Kanna-san said,
00:16:53I don't mind,
00:16:55but would you like to have a meal with my daughter?
00:16:58So Kikuchi Kanna-san stuck to Kikuchi Kanna-san's father,
00:17:01and the three of them had a meal together,
00:17:03but Kikuchi Kanna-san's father didn't come.
00:17:05How old were you at that time?
00:17:07I made my film debut when I was 2 years and 8 months old.
00:17:10Before that, I was even younger.
00:17:12Before that?
00:17:13Yes, before that.
00:17:15You were a baby, weren't you?
00:17:17I was a baby.
00:17:18Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san
00:17:20were having a meal together.
00:17:22I asked Kikuchi Kanna-san later,
00:17:24and he said,
00:17:26my daughter is only 2 and a half years old,
00:17:28and she hasn't had her period yet,
00:17:30but I've taught her about etiquette,
00:17:33so I'm sure she'll have a proper meal.
00:17:35That's what my father said.
00:17:37He's an interesting person.
00:17:39At a proper restaurant?
00:17:41Yes, at a place called Rainbow Grill.
00:17:43So the baby was with Kikuchi Kanna-san?
00:17:45Yes.
00:17:46Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san
00:17:48were having a meal together?
00:17:50Yes, just the two of them.
00:17:52What were they doing?
00:17:54Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san
00:17:56were having a meal together.
00:17:58Yes, but Kikuchi Kanna-san was in trouble, too.
00:18:00Kikuchi Kanna-san said,
00:18:02my daughter,
00:18:04this is the first time I've had a meal
00:18:06with a small person like you.
00:18:08I'm sorry if I've offended you.
00:18:10That's cool.
00:18:12I still remember that.
00:18:14You still remember?
00:18:16No, no, I'm just kidding.
00:18:18My father was like that, too.
00:18:20He used to make the baby cry.
00:18:22Yes, that's what he did every day.
00:18:24He used to make the baby cry.
00:18:26He used to sing, too.
00:18:28He was a terrible singer.
00:18:30What did he sing?
00:18:32I wonder what he sang back then.
00:18:34Hey, sister, I'm really angry.
00:18:36Hey, sister, I'm really angry.
00:18:38French doll turkey.
00:18:40French doll turkey.
00:18:42That's right, it's a turkey.
00:18:44It's the time.
00:18:46It's the time.
00:18:48I told Mr. Turkey
00:18:50when I became an adult.
00:18:52Mr. Turkey.
00:18:54Mr. Turkey,
00:18:56please be quiet.
00:18:58Let's say Mr. Turkey.
00:19:00It's Mr. Turkey.
00:19:02Mr. Turkey.
00:19:04The famous Mr. Turkey.
00:19:06Edo.
00:19:08Kokonoe?
00:19:10Please say it.
00:19:12Mr. Turkey.
00:19:14Mr. Mizunoe.
00:19:16I was surprised.
00:19:18I was wondering what you were praying for.
00:19:20Mr. Mizunoe.
00:19:22Mr. Mizunoe.
00:19:24You were in the movie with Mr. Kingoro.
00:19:26Mr. Kingoro.
00:19:28Of course, Mr. Kingoro, too.
00:19:30Of course, Mr. Kingoro, too.
00:19:32My biggest fan was
00:19:34Mr. Achako.
00:19:36Mr. Achako Hanabishi.
00:19:38I love all of them.
00:19:40Mr. Achako was very interesting.
00:19:42Mr. Achako.
00:19:44He was very interesting.
00:19:50Mr. Hanabishi and Mr. Achako.
00:19:52I have to explain everything.
00:19:54Young people don't understand.
00:19:56It's interesting that they don't understand.
00:19:58I want to hear that song again.
00:20:00The French doll is a turkey.
00:20:02Hey, sis,
00:20:04are you really angry?
00:20:06The French doll is a turkey.
00:20:08The French doll is a turkey.
00:20:10You were too excited.
00:20:12You just got a beard.
00:20:14You just got a beard.
00:20:16Don't be angry.
00:20:18Don't be angry.
00:20:20Don't be angry.
00:20:22I remember that.
00:20:24I remember that.
00:20:26You must have been surprised to hear this.
00:20:28Some people may remember.
00:20:30Some people may remember.
00:20:32I know this.
00:20:34You didn't know.
00:20:36You didn't know.
00:20:38No one knew.
00:20:40Mr. Morishige was still alive.
00:20:42Mr. Morishige was still alive.
00:20:44He would ask me for a song
00:20:46on the radio.
00:20:48He would ask me for a song
00:20:50on the radio.
00:20:52He would ask me for a song
00:20:54on the radio.
00:20:56On the radio?
00:20:58Yes, I remember.
00:21:00I remember.
00:21:02I remembered the song of Enokenoji-chama.
00:21:05Meiko-chan sang it.
00:21:07She said, I'm the best in the village.
00:21:11She did it.
00:21:14She said, I'm a mobo.
00:21:16She knew it well.
00:21:18What is a mobo?
00:21:20It's a modern boy.
00:21:24During the war, there were many foreign soldiers.
00:21:27Yes, there were many foreign soldiers of the Special Forces.
00:21:30They sang in front of the young people of the Special Forces and comforted them.
00:21:34It was painful.
00:21:36I hated it very much.
00:21:39So I asked, what was the first airplane you got on?
00:21:43He said, it was a fighter jet.
00:21:45I asked, what kind of ship was it?
00:21:47He said, it was a submarine.
00:21:49He was such a child.
00:21:51He was such a child.
00:21:53The first airplane he got on was a fighter jet.
00:21:56I asked, where did you go?
00:21:58He said, I went to the court.
00:22:00He went to such a place.
00:22:02Did he really go to the court?
00:22:04Yes, he did.
00:22:06Really.
00:22:08At that time, he was singing a song that his father made.
00:22:12He said, he was a writer, so he didn't want to be sung by a soldier.
00:22:16He said, no, no, I'll write a song of cherry blossoms.
00:22:20Cherry blossoms in the garden bloomed.
00:22:23A brother from far away.
00:22:26Two red petals.
00:22:29I'll send you the spring of Japan.
00:22:33I still remember it.
00:22:35Mr. Hazuki, Mr. Hazuki.
00:22:37I said, no, no, I remember such an old song.
00:22:40I said, even if you release it now, it's no good.
00:22:43I was surprised.
00:22:45The people I got to know were happy.
00:22:49I didn't know he was going to pass away.
00:22:52I didn't know he was going to come.
00:22:55Everyone was desperate.
00:22:58Even after he grew up a little,
00:23:01he continued to appear on TV and in movies.
00:23:05He never took a break from work.
00:23:08All the time.
00:23:10Was there anything that made you think,
00:23:13oh, what this person said was useful?
00:23:16I was with him when I was little.
00:23:21Mr. Haruko Sugimura.
00:23:24I thought he was a good kid.
00:23:27A good kid?
00:23:29What about Hideko Takamine?
00:23:32No one was more interesting than Hideko.
00:23:35Was he funny?
00:23:37He was really interesting.
00:23:39He was smart.
00:23:41Hideko Takamine was the wife of Zenzo Matsuyama.
00:23:45The next person I talked to said,
00:23:48he had a son from Uehara Prefecture.
00:23:51I said, is that so?
00:23:53He said he was an actor named Yuzo Kayama.
00:23:57I said, teach him a lot of things.
00:24:00He said, I'm sure he's clumsy.
00:24:04He said a lot of things.
00:24:08I love Hideko.
00:24:11He's handsome.
00:24:13He's handsome.
00:24:15He's handsome.
00:24:17I've never met him.
00:24:19In his debut film,
00:24:21Fuku-chan,
00:24:23in the manga,
00:24:25Takamine plays the role of a high school girl,
00:24:28Namiko.
00:24:30She's in a sailor uniform.
00:24:32There's a manga called Fuku-chan.
00:24:35I think we're pretty good at it.
00:24:38He's like a female writer in my head.
00:24:43I heard from Akira Takarada
00:24:46about Hideko Takamine's episode.
00:24:49He was a newcomer,
00:24:51so he couldn't appear in any of the episodes.
00:24:54But Takamine plays the opposite role.
00:24:57I said, no,
00:24:59and everyone turned off the lights
00:25:01and waited until the next day.
00:25:04The next day,
00:25:07I asked him what I should do.
00:25:11Takarada-san said,
00:25:13Hideko-san said,
00:25:15I can't tell you because it's a waste.
00:25:18I thought he was so cool.
00:25:21I can't tell you because it's a waste.
00:25:23It's not that I can't do it,
00:25:25but he's already handsome.
00:25:28He was a handsome man.
00:25:31So, Uehara-kun,
00:25:34you're really clumsy.
00:25:37Uehara-kun, you're really clumsy.
00:25:40Why don't you try crouching a little?
00:25:43When I said that,
00:25:45Takamine-san,
00:25:47in a small voice from our group,
00:25:50said,
00:25:52Next is crouching Uehara.
00:25:54Crouching Uehara.
00:25:56Crouching Uehara.
00:25:58The studio is over there,
00:26:00the Toho studio.
00:26:02Everyone knows that.
00:26:04Next is crouching Uehara.
00:26:07It's a joke of crouching Uehara.
00:26:10It's a joke of crouching Uehara.
00:26:12It's a joke of crouching Uehara.
00:26:14It's a joke of crouching Uehara.
00:26:16It's Uehara Ken-san, right?
00:26:18Yes.
00:26:19Kayama Yuzo-san's father.
00:26:21There are so many people.
00:26:23It's coming out.
00:26:25Kayama-kun,
00:26:27when I was 16 or 17,
00:26:29I lived in Chigasaki.
00:26:31We were housemates.
00:26:33Wait a minute.
00:26:35You were housemates?
00:26:37Were there many famous people around you?
00:26:39Who were there?
00:26:41In Chigasaki at that time,
00:26:43there were famous violinists,
00:26:45such as Menuhin.
00:26:47Menuhin?
00:26:48Yes, a violinist.
00:26:50Do you know Menuhin?
00:26:52I know Menuhin.
00:26:54U.D. Menuhin is a great violinist.
00:26:57There was Menuhin.
00:26:59Did he live in Japan?
00:27:01Yes, he did.
00:27:02I was surprised.
00:27:03Really?
00:27:04He lived there.
00:27:05I wanted to meet him.
00:27:07You wanted to meet him.
00:27:09Menuhin.
00:27:10I don't know, but Menuhin.
00:27:12Chigasaki at that time was amazing.
00:27:15Yes.
00:27:16The most unknown person was
00:27:18Kayama Yuzo.
00:27:22Kayama Yuzo didn't know anything.
00:27:24She didn't know anyone.
00:27:26In my life,
00:27:28I've only dated interesting people.
00:27:31Was Kozu interesting?
00:27:33No.
00:27:35He was very serious and boring.
00:27:37He said a lot of boring and difficult things.
00:27:40He still does.
00:27:42Meiko grew up
00:27:44surrounded by many strange people.
00:27:48Kozu was a decent person.
00:27:51Right.
00:27:52He was the first decent student.
00:27:55He was a student?
00:27:57Yes, at a music school.
00:27:59Your name came to my mind.
00:28:02Shigeru Yoshida said at the National Assembly,
00:28:04You idiot!
00:28:06in 1988.
00:28:10Kozu met his husband Yoshiyuki
00:28:13at a singing lesson.
00:28:18Kozu was in his teens?
00:28:20Yes.
00:28:21There was a man named Riro Miki.
00:28:24I had a lot of work with him.
00:28:27He was a bus driver in the countryside.
00:28:29Yes, I remember.
00:28:31He was a bus driver in the countryside.
00:28:33Kozu was working with him.
00:28:35He was a young student.
00:28:37He sang his first song.
00:28:41He was standing in front of the piano.
00:28:43I was standing behind him.
00:28:45Kozu was a music student.
00:28:47Did he play the piano?
00:28:49Maybe he was a student at the National Assembly.
00:28:53He was sitting in front of the piano.
00:28:55I was standing behind him.
00:28:57He asked me,
00:28:59How much tongue do you have?
00:29:01I thought he was going to ask me a weird question.
00:29:03But I thought it had something to do with his mouth.
00:29:09He asked me,
00:29:11How much tongue do you have?
00:29:13He said,
00:29:15Wow!
00:29:17He had a lot of tongue.
00:29:19The first time I saw him,
00:29:21he was a baby.
00:29:25When I went to the San Fujin-ka,
00:29:27I was told to take off my underwear.
00:29:29I took off my underwear and my pants
00:29:31when I was taking off my slippers.
00:29:35He told me to take off my underwear.
00:29:37I was in the countryside.
00:29:39I was the third person.
00:29:41I was in the San Fujin-ka.
00:29:43I was supposed to put my legs on my back.
00:29:45I was supposed to put my legs on my back.
00:29:47I didn't know how to put my legs on my back.
00:29:49I didn't know how to put my legs on my back.
00:29:53When I came back,
00:29:55he asked me,
00:29:57What are you doing?
00:29:59I said,
00:30:01It's my first time.
00:30:03He said,
00:30:05It's my first time.
00:30:07I said,
00:30:09It's my first time.
00:30:11I said,
00:30:13It's my first time.
00:30:15This is a special episode of the newlyweds.
00:30:17This is a special episode of the newlyweds.
00:30:19He came out like this.
00:30:21He came out like this.
00:30:23He was like a tire.
00:30:25He was like a tire.
00:30:27He was like a tire.
00:30:29At that time,
00:30:31she met her husband,
00:30:33Kouzu Yoshiyuki,
00:30:35at a singing lesson.
00:30:37She met her husband,
00:30:39Kouzu Yoshiyuki,
00:30:41at a singing lesson.
00:30:43I was surprised
00:30:45because he was too busy.
00:30:47Because he was too busy.
00:30:49I'm sure you've tried to commit suicide.
00:30:51That's right.
00:30:53That's right.
00:30:55I'm sure you've tried to commit suicide.
00:30:57I'm sure you've tried to commit suicide.
00:30:59I thought in that way,
00:31:01I thought in that way,
00:31:03I thought in that way,
00:31:05I became sick and tired of everything.
00:31:07I was too busy.
00:31:09I can only sleep for about two hours every day.
00:31:11I was swimming in the sea.
00:31:14Which sea?
00:31:15I was living in Chigasaki, so I was really good at swimming.
00:31:20So I couldn't drown no matter how far I went.
00:31:24I was really sick at that time.
00:31:28I thought you would die if you went into the sea.
00:31:31I thought I would die.
00:31:32You were swimming all the time.
00:31:33When I jumped into the sea, the next scene was a funeral.
00:31:38I thought I would die if I jumped into the sea.
00:31:43But I was swimming all the time.
00:31:47So you were found.
00:31:51Yes.
00:31:52The person who found you was Musei Tokugawa.
00:31:57I found you swimming.
00:31:59Are you Musei Tokugawa?
00:32:01Why did Musei Tokugawa appear?
00:32:04There was a ryokan called Chigasaki-kan nearby.
00:32:08A girl jumped into the ryokan.
00:32:12The ryokan staff looked for her.
00:32:16There was a phone number of Musei Tokugawa's house.
00:32:21Someone jumped into the ryokan.
00:32:23A little girl jumped into the ryokan.
00:32:27I asked her what I should do.
00:32:29She said,
00:32:30Chigasaki, wait.
00:32:32That may be Meiko.
00:32:35How did you know that?
00:32:37How did you know that?
00:32:38It's simple.
00:32:39It's simple, isn't it?
00:32:41So?
00:32:42She said that.
00:32:44When I noticed,
00:32:46she said,
00:32:47Meiko, Meiko.
00:32:48Are you Meiko?
00:32:50She was in a dangerous situation.
00:32:53Musei Tokugawa was in danger.
00:32:55So?
00:32:56I asked,
00:32:57Are you Meiko?
00:32:59She said,
00:33:00Yes, I'm Meiko Nakamura.
00:33:02How old were you, Meiko?
00:33:05I was 15 or 16 years old.
00:33:08That's sad.
00:33:10You must have had a hard time.
00:33:11How old were you?
00:33:13I was a good swimmer.
00:33:17Really.
00:33:18I can't sort it out.
00:33:19I can't sort it out.
00:33:20I can't sort it out.
00:33:21I can't sort it out.
00:33:22I can't sort it out.
00:33:25How long can you sort it out?
00:33:29Did you know that Musei Tokugawa was there to help you?
00:33:33Yes.
00:33:34Then,
00:33:35Musei Tokugawa said,
00:33:37Let's call a family.
00:33:39Let's call a family.
00:33:41Then,
00:33:42Meiko said,
00:33:43Don't call a family.
00:33:45Don't call a family.
00:33:47I'm worried.
00:33:48I told her,
00:33:49I told her,
00:33:51I'm worried.
00:33:52I told her,
00:33:54and I happened to know Mr. Yoshizuki Kodo.
00:33:56and I happened to know Mr. Yoshizuki Kodo.
00:33:58He gave me a memo.
00:33:59He gave me a memo.
00:34:00He gave me a memo.
00:34:01He gave me a memo.
00:34:03He put a phone number in my pocket.
00:34:06Did that start a relationship?
00:34:09Relationship?
00:34:10Relationship?
00:34:12He was already in love.
00:34:14He was already in love.
00:34:16I thought the American girl was cute.
00:34:18Yeah, the American girl was cute.
00:34:20I think she's cute, too.
00:34:22Look down on her.
00:34:24If I look down on her,
00:34:26I can't even take off my skirt.
00:34:28That's too much, isn't it?
00:34:30So...
00:34:34I'm going to skip the story,
00:34:36but there's no end to Meiko's stories.
00:34:38The first time I was moved
00:34:40was when I had to go to the
00:34:42Fukkei Sankan in Kanna.
00:34:44I didn't know how to get on the train,
00:34:46so Kanna taught me
00:34:48how to get on the train.
00:34:50When I was a student,
00:34:52I had to buy a ticket
00:34:54and get off the train
00:34:56at the ticket gate.
00:34:58Then I had to walk
00:35:00and turn right.
00:35:02She taught me everything.
00:35:04I said,
00:35:06OK, I got it.
00:35:08But I didn't know
00:35:10how far I could buy a ticket.
00:35:12So I bought a ticket
00:35:14for 30 yen, 50 yen, 60 yen,
00:35:16and 70 yen.
00:35:18I put it on a stamp
00:35:20like this,
00:35:22and I asked
00:35:24which one would be good.
00:35:26She said,
00:35:28pick any one you like.
00:35:30There was one more thing.
00:35:32I was going to get a ticket,
00:35:34but I didn't have a ticket.
00:35:36I was wondering which one would be good,
00:35:38and I saw chewing gum.
00:35:40So I got a chewing gum,
00:35:42and I said,
00:35:44this is not good.
00:35:46Japanese people in the old days
00:35:48used to chew gum slowly.
00:35:50That's right.
00:35:52That's the best.
00:35:54Kanna-san,
00:35:56you had a good year
00:35:58because you were a senior member.
00:36:00That's right.
00:36:02You had a good year,
00:36:04but you didn't know how to get on the train.
00:36:06People who knew how to get on the train
00:36:08raised their hands
00:36:10when they saw you.
00:36:12They raised their hands
00:36:14behind their mothers.
00:36:16I said,
00:36:18I'm listening to the students.
00:36:20The teacher said so.
00:36:22That's all I know
00:36:24because I was in elementary school.
00:36:26But you got along with Mr. Koji
00:36:28and got married
00:36:30because you didn't know how to get on the train.
00:36:32And then
00:36:34you started to work as a housewife
00:36:36and raised your children.
00:36:38How was that?
00:36:40It was a mess.
00:36:42I didn't know
00:36:44how hard life was.
00:36:46You hadn't cooked rice
00:36:48before that, had you?
00:36:50That's right.
00:36:52I was surprised.
00:36:54I asked him
00:36:56what he would do
00:36:58tomorrow morning.
00:37:00He said he would make miso soup.
00:37:02I thought it was a problem.
00:37:04I asked him
00:37:06what kind of ingredients he would use.
00:37:08He said
00:37:10he would use wakame seaweed.
00:37:12I knew
00:37:14he would use wakame seaweed
00:37:16for miso soup,
00:37:18but I didn't know
00:37:20where he sold it.
00:37:22At that time,
00:37:24Mr. Koji lived
00:37:26in a big mansion
00:37:28in Sanban-cho.
00:37:30I asked him
00:37:32where he sold wakame seaweed.
00:37:34He said it was from the sea.
00:37:36I didn't know
00:37:38where he sold it.
00:37:40He didn't tell me
00:37:42where he sold it.
00:37:44Finally,
00:37:46I found a place
00:37:48where he sold kelp.
00:37:50How far did you go
00:37:52to find a place where he sold kelp?
00:37:54When I asked him for wakame seaweed,
00:37:56he said it was
00:37:58as wide as a Bridgestone tire.
00:38:00I said,
00:38:02this is wakame seaweed.
00:38:04I was surprised.
00:38:06I brought it home.
00:38:08You brought it home.
00:38:10I put it in the biggest pot
00:38:12and set it on fire.
00:38:14Then,
00:38:16the wakame seaweed
00:38:18shook the pot
00:38:20and came out
00:38:22with the lid
00:38:24of the pot.
00:38:26I was scared
00:38:28and surprised.
00:38:30I didn't know what to do.
00:38:32Then,
00:38:34I said to Mr. Kozu,
00:38:36I'm sorry,
00:38:38but you said you sold wakame seaweed,
00:38:40so I looked for it
00:38:42and bought it.
00:38:44When I put it in the pot,
00:38:46it was like this.
00:38:48It was like a tire.
00:38:50The wakame seaweed was sticking out.
00:38:52Mr. Kozu was surprised.
00:38:54But he said calmly,
00:38:56put the soup part
00:38:58of the miso soup
00:39:00in the big pot,
00:39:02put the scissors in front of each other,
00:39:04cut it with scissors
00:39:06and soak it
00:39:08and eat it.
00:39:10He was so kind.
00:39:12When I think about it now,
00:39:14he was really kind.
00:39:16The wakame miso soup was like that,
00:39:18but he continued to make bento
00:39:20while working
00:39:22for his children every day.
00:39:24What kind of bento did you make?
00:39:26I like it.
00:39:28Do you like cooking?
00:39:30I like obamagoto.
00:39:32It's like an extension of that.
00:39:34What kind of bento did you make?
00:39:36I can make almost anything.
00:39:38I can say it's a side dish.
00:39:40I asked Mr. Kanna
00:39:42before,
00:39:44and he said
00:39:46he wanted something refreshing.
00:39:48I said,
00:39:50okay.
00:39:52I made a set of ochazuke.
00:39:54On top of a small pot,
00:39:56I put a teapot
00:39:58and chopsticks.
00:40:00I thought that
00:40:02ochazuke would not be delicious
00:40:04if I put chopsticks in a teapot,
00:40:06and I thought that
00:40:08there would be no tea leaves at school,
00:40:10so I wrapped it in silver paper
00:40:12and put it on.
00:40:14Then I wrote a letter
00:40:16saying,
00:40:18Mom,
00:40:20you know,
00:40:22you know,
00:40:24you know,
00:40:26you know,
00:40:28you know,
00:40:30on that pot,
00:40:32I put various things
00:40:34on the chopsticks,
00:40:36like zougen,
00:40:38and soy sauce
00:40:40in a small pot.
00:40:42I thought,
00:40:44it would be cool
00:40:46to have a bento like this.
00:40:48That's all.
00:40:52She is a fun person.
00:40:54I think she is a fun mother,
00:40:56but she was
00:40:58very excited.
00:41:00I was very happy
00:41:02to be a mother.
00:41:04To be a mother.
00:41:06So it's easy
00:41:08to play a role.
00:41:10There is no sudden
00:41:12labor.
00:41:14There is a baby
00:41:16in the pot,
00:41:18and I thought
00:41:20it would be
00:41:22like that.
00:41:24I didn't know
00:41:26there was an old lady
00:41:28who took the cut separately.
00:41:30So I was really
00:41:32surprised by everything.
00:41:34But Kanna-san
00:41:36and Haru-chan
00:41:38are funny people.
00:41:40They are wonderful.
00:41:42I thought there were
00:41:44a lot of things
00:41:46Kanna-san and Haru-chan said.
00:41:48Meiko-san said,
00:41:50I've been working
00:41:52since I was two and a half
00:41:54years old.
00:41:56Meiko-san said.
00:41:58Kanna-san said,
00:42:00I see.
00:42:02You will be working
00:42:04soon.
00:42:06Good luck.
00:42:08It will happen soon.
00:42:10Are you okay now?
00:42:12I was wondering
00:42:14if I was wearing it.
00:42:16Somehow, your eyes
00:42:18went around here.
00:42:20I know.
00:42:22You can see
00:42:24the actor's eyes right away.
00:42:26I see.
00:42:28There is a card
00:42:30from Kanpei.
00:42:32I have to see it right away.
00:42:34With a person named
00:42:36Norihei Miki.
00:42:38With a person named Morishige.
00:42:40I couldn't remember the lines.
00:42:42I couldn't remember at all.
00:42:44I couldn't remember at all.
00:42:46I was told that
00:42:48I was wearing it
00:42:50under the zipper.
00:42:52I was told that
00:42:54I was wearing it
00:42:56under the zipper.
00:42:58When I saw Mr. Isuzu Yamada
00:43:00in the same co-star,
00:43:02he came to me
00:43:04and said,
00:43:06Meiko, do something.
00:43:08He sat on my card.
00:43:10He sat on my card.
00:43:12He sat on my card.
00:43:14He sat on my card.
00:43:16He sat on my card.
00:43:18So, everyone's eyes
00:43:20are different
00:43:22from what was written
00:43:24in the script.
00:43:26They are looking at the ceiling.
00:43:28Mr. Yamada was like that.
00:43:30I see.
00:43:32When I was a child,
00:43:34there was a drama
00:43:36about a woman
00:43:38who was waiting for her husband.
00:43:40There was a drama about a woman
00:43:42who was waiting for her husband.
00:43:44Mr. Rie Miki appeared in that drama.
00:43:46I couldn't remember what he said.
00:43:48I couldn't remember what he said.
00:43:50Mr. Rie Miki appeared in that drama.
00:43:52I couldn't remember what he said.
00:43:54He was trying to hide something.
00:43:56He changed his tone
00:43:58He changed his tone
00:44:00and said,
00:44:02I can't laugh anymore.
00:44:04When I was on the stage, Minami Shinsuke and Hazuma Hachiro were so funny that I laughed a lot.
00:44:15It was a time when TV dramas were also live dramas, right?
00:44:19Yes, it was all live.
00:44:21If it's live, you have to change your clothes when the scene changes, right?
00:44:26I think the staff at that time were really good at it.
00:44:32All the beautiful actresses were naked.
00:44:36I think everyone was good at it.
00:44:42I didn't have time to hide.
00:44:45When I said, you can take off your underwear, they took off my underwear.
00:44:52In the meantime, I put on a wig on top of it.
00:44:57It was really hard.
00:44:59But you managed to do it, didn't you?
00:45:02Yes, I did.
00:45:04Didn't you make any mistakes?
00:45:06There were a lot of things.
00:45:10It was a big hit, and the camera staff passed by in a jeep.
00:45:17In front of the camera?
00:45:19In front of the camera. It was the Meiji era.
00:45:22I'm so happy to hear that from someone who doesn't know anything about it.
00:45:27It was the best.
00:45:28Anything was possible.
00:45:29I heard from Tetsuko Kuranagi that it was a suspense story when it was a live drama,
00:45:34but the name of the criminal was Nakamura at first,
00:45:37and then someone changed it to Nakajima, and then it became Nakabayashi.
00:45:41How did you get it back?
00:45:43It kept changing.
00:45:48You didn't have time to correct it.
00:45:50Yes, it was all a hit.
00:45:53I don't know where the correct answer is.
00:45:56I don't know the real name of the criminal.
00:45:59Actors are still used to that kind of conversation,
00:46:04but when I was a guest on the show Tanaka Kakuei,
00:46:09You were on the show with Meiko.
00:46:11Yes, I was on the show with Meiko.
00:46:14Tanaka Kakuei.
00:46:16I was in trouble when I was on the show with Tanaka Kakuei.
00:46:19Why?
00:46:20Anyway, he kept talking to me,
00:46:26and I said,
00:46:28What's up?
00:46:32The cameraman said,
00:46:34I'm going to show you my face on the screen.
00:46:37This is live.
00:46:39I can't explain it.
00:46:41I'm going to show you my face on the screen,
00:46:44so you keep talking to me.
00:46:46I said, talk to me!
00:46:48What do you mean, talk to me?
00:46:50I said, you know...
00:46:52It's very similar.
00:46:55Kozu Kanna and Tanaka Kakuei are very similar.
00:46:59After that, you got along with Tanaka Kakuei.
00:47:02Yes, we got along very well.
00:47:04You got along very well?
00:47:06Did he have a house in Mejiro?
00:47:09Yes, he had a house in Mejiro.
00:47:12The most interesting thing was that he liked to give me a lot of things.
00:47:17He gave me a lot of nice things.
00:47:20I said to Kozu,
00:47:22Why don't you bring something useful from home once in a while?
00:47:27He gave me a lot of peanuts that looked so delicious.
00:47:33Nankin beans in shells.
00:47:35I said, isn't this good?
00:47:38I said, isn't this good?
00:47:40I said, isn't this good?
00:47:42He said, peanuts?
00:47:44He said, peanuts?
00:47:46He said, peanuts?
00:47:48I thought he was going to get angry.
00:47:51He said, peanuts?
00:47:53I thought he was going to get angry.
00:47:54Rock kids
00:47:56He took it?
00:47:58At that time?
00:48:00He took it?
00:48:02He took it?
00:48:04I said, peanuts?
00:48:06I said, peanuts?
00:48:08He looked scary,
00:48:10He said, peanuts?
00:48:12He looked scary,
00:48:13He looked scary,
00:48:15And he said,
00:48:16''Kawana Meiko is pretty sharp.''
00:48:20''I'll buy you anything you want.''
00:48:22Didn't he ask you to become a politician?
00:48:23He did.
00:48:24He did?
00:48:26He said, ''No, I'll never become one, no matter what.''
00:48:30He said that?
00:48:31Did you refuse?
00:48:33He said, ''I'll do anything.''
00:48:34You were rejected.
00:48:36''I'll do anything.''
00:48:37That's not funny.
00:48:39When I talk, people usually...
00:48:41Reflect on me.
00:48:42Reflect on me.
00:48:43You don't want to do it?
00:48:44Mr. Tsurube, you're great.
00:48:46You're great.
00:48:47I'd like to do it, but I was rejected earlier.
00:48:51When did you meet Mr. Misora Hibari?
00:48:55After this, the story of the time went back a little,
00:48:58and we went to talk to Mr. Misora Hibari.
00:49:06The baseball kid of Kaida Katsuhiko became a hit.
00:49:09The film, Showa 26, was made by the Rashomon family.
00:49:16The 18-year-old maid, Showa's songstress,
00:49:20met Mr. Misora Hibari.
00:49:23Mr. Hibari was a war veteran,
00:49:28so we had a talk in a war magazine.
00:49:32Oh, this picture.
00:49:34We took it in the dressing room.
00:49:36It's cute. It's beautiful.
00:49:39There were about 16 of us, including Mr. Hibari.
00:49:43Mr. Hibari was younger than us.
00:49:45But he was an adult.
00:49:47He was a man of many talents.
00:49:48Mr. Hibari, we want you to take a break like a normal girl.
00:49:53We want you to do normal things.
00:49:55That's what the maid said at the time.
00:49:58Then I said,
00:49:59I don't think so.
00:50:03I said, Yes.
00:50:04I said, Yes.
00:50:06Because we sell dreams.
00:50:10We don't sell worries.
00:50:12We don't sell worries.
00:50:14We have to put up with things we don't like.
00:50:18I thought, Wow, what is this guy?
00:50:22You were 16 years old.
00:50:24I was younger than him.
00:50:25I was younger than him. I was surprised.
00:50:29But you got along, didn't you?
00:50:31We got along well.
00:50:32Did you meet and eat together?
00:50:34Yes, but if I went to a normal place, people would pick on me.
00:50:39So I went to a ryotei or a street vendor.
00:50:44A tea shop, right?
00:50:45Yes, a tea shop.
00:50:47I asked, What are you going to do?
00:50:50I asked, What are you going to do?
00:50:54He said, You can do it. I can't do anything.
00:50:59He said, You can do it. I can't do anything.
00:50:59Normal children can't play with two people.
00:51:03Oh, you can't do it with two people?
00:51:06It takes a long time to calm down.
00:51:10I thought a lot about it.
00:51:14It was really hard.
00:51:18I laughed with him all the time.
00:51:21Did you ever visit my house?
00:51:25You did?
00:51:27I stayed over at your house.
00:51:29Koji was there, too.
00:51:31You were married, weren't you?
00:51:33Yes, we were newlyweds.
00:51:35He said, You can only sleep here.
00:51:39He had a double bed.
00:51:41Koji was sleeping there.
00:51:43He said, You can only sleep here.
00:51:45I said, Okay, let's sleep in a three-person bed.
00:51:49A double bed, a single bed, a three-person bed?
00:51:53Normally, if you have a female friend,
00:51:59you sleep next to her.
00:52:03Koji, Meiko, and Hibari.
00:52:06I think that's normal.
00:52:10He said, I'm always in the center.
00:52:15Hibari Sora is always in the center.
00:52:18Wow.
00:52:20Koji couldn't do it at all.
00:52:25He couldn't show his face in the middle.
00:52:29That's amazing.
00:52:30That's amazing.
00:52:32Have you ever heard of Hibari's worries or tears?
00:52:36Many times.
00:52:38Was it painful?
00:52:39Yes, because he was a crybaby.
00:52:42He was a crybaby?
00:52:43Yes.
00:52:44He cried all the time.
00:52:47I did something bad.
00:52:49To whom?
00:52:49When I married Akira Kobayashi,
00:52:53I said, Meiko, Akira is a good man, isn't he?
00:52:57I said, I don't like him very much.
00:52:59You said, I don't like him very much.
00:53:03I said, I want to keep him as a pet.
00:53:06He said, you want to keep him as a pet?
00:53:09I said, yes.
00:53:11I said, that's strange.
00:53:15But he didn't listen to my advice.
00:53:22When I talk to Hibari Misora, he seems to be a crybaby.
00:53:26I see.
00:53:28Was he a crybaby?
00:53:30You always sing your own songs because you think they're good.
00:53:34Of course.
00:53:37You think they're good.
00:53:40What would you do if you didn't think so?
00:53:44He's really like that.
00:53:46I see.
00:53:48He was funny.
00:53:50Hibari Misora's pet interview was held, right?
00:53:57I think it was a lot of fun.
00:54:00Did he visit you or comfort you even after he fell ill?
00:54:06I don't know what to say.
00:54:09He was really strong-willed.
00:54:12He didn't say a word about pain or pain.
00:54:19He just didn't say anything.
00:54:20He died without saying anything.
00:54:23When he died, I ran to him and said,
00:54:28if a maid comes, give this to her.
00:54:31I wrote, crybaby maid.
00:54:35Then he said, if a maid comes, I'll give this to her.
00:54:42I wondered what he was writing, and it was my sunglasses
00:54:47and a handkerchief that I'd forgotten about.
00:54:54I said, crybaby maid, please give this to her.
00:54:58It's sad, isn't it?
00:55:01He must have been in the entertainment business since he was a child.
00:55:07I could relate to his pain.
00:55:12But it was too soon.
00:55:14But he was a great man, so it was good.
00:55:19If he didn't have anyone to talk to,
00:55:22it would have been nice if he could talk to a great person like that.
00:55:29He was a great Japanese singer,
00:55:33so it must have been really hard for him.
00:55:36But he had a different job.
00:55:39Did you know that you became close friends?
00:55:44I don't know.
00:55:47He was born in Yokohama, and I was born in Edo.
00:55:52I think we had a unique personality,
00:55:55which was unique to the Kanto people.
00:56:01He must have been in the entertainment business since he was a child.
00:56:07I could relate to his pain.
00:56:12But we had different hobbies.
00:56:15Different hobbies?
00:56:17I've never done anything like this since I was born.
00:56:23It's your job, so you have to be prepared.
00:56:27But that's how I usually am.
00:56:30He was a simple person who didn't know anything.
00:56:36He said,
00:56:38I'm going to take a photo of you skiing,
00:56:41and I think this is a good sweater for skiing.
00:56:45And this is a good hat.
00:56:46And he said, I'm going to wear racing gloves.
00:56:50I said, that's when you're on stage.
00:56:54He said, I don't wear racing gloves when I'm skiing.
00:56:58I said, really? Who decided that?
00:57:00He said, no one did.
00:57:03He was a really cute person.
00:57:04No, you're cute, too.
00:57:06You can imitate everything.
00:57:10You look like Chouichiro Sakurai.
00:57:13You don't know that, do you?
00:57:14I don't know his old name.
00:57:16You don't know his name?
00:57:17I put it up on purpose.
00:57:20You're Chouichiro Sakurai, right?
00:57:22Hibari Misono teaches him things he doesn't know.
00:57:27He teaches him things about the kitchen.
00:57:31Things he doesn't know.
00:57:33He went to buy wakame seaweed.
00:57:35He looks so proud of himself.
00:57:37He's getting used to it.
00:57:40He's just like his father.
00:57:42He's not like his daughter.
00:57:44Hazuki is a good boy.
00:57:47Yes, he is.
00:57:48He's a good boy, isn't he?
00:57:49I guess so.
00:57:50What do you think?
00:57:51There's Yoshinosuke down there.
00:57:54Yoshinosuke is a man, but...
00:57:56He's a painter.
00:57:58He's a painter, so he's very quiet.
00:58:04He's quiet?
00:58:05He doesn't talk much.
00:58:06That's Yoshinosuke.
00:58:08He's Yoshinosuke because he looks like someone.
00:58:10He's smiling now.
00:58:13Who does he look like?
00:58:14No one thinks he looks like you.
00:58:16They're talking to each other.
00:58:19That's Yoshinosuke.
00:58:21Why are you laughing?
00:58:23Why are you laughing?
00:58:25Who does he look like?
00:58:26We've been talking for an hour.
00:58:29Who is he?
00:58:34This is a funny story.
00:58:36You know a lot about him.
00:58:37He's a treasure chest of the Bakusho family.
00:58:42A treasure chest?
00:58:44Yes, a treasure chest.
00:58:45I can't forget about him.
00:58:47He's a natural person.
00:58:49He's a natural person.
00:58:50He's a natural person.
00:58:53He's a natural person, but he's a natural person.
00:58:55He hasn't been fooled much, has he?
00:58:58He's been fooled a lot.
00:59:01He's been fooled a lot.
00:59:02How did he fool you?
00:59:05I was shooting a location near here.
00:59:08I thought there would be a lot of clothes if I went to Mieko Nakamura's place.
00:59:12So I went to borrow some clothes.
00:59:13I was shooting a location.
00:59:15You thought there would be a lot of clothes.
00:59:17So I said, yes, please, and I gave him a few clothes.
00:59:21He didn't come back at all.
00:59:24I told Kouzu,
00:59:25I told Kouzu,
00:59:27You're a thief.
00:59:30Is that true?
00:59:33It's like an old novel.
00:59:35You're a thief.
00:59:39I'll tell you another story about Kouzu.
00:59:44Kanna, the eldest daughter,
00:59:46Kanna, the eldest daughter,
00:59:51wanted her to be a normal mother.
00:59:55Did Kanna tell you that?
00:59:57She wanted her to be a normal mother.
00:59:59She wanted her to be a normal mother.
01:00:02So she made a declaration and stood up to her mother.
01:00:06Kouzu came to her and said,
01:00:09Kanna, don't think of this person as your mother.
01:00:14Think of her as Mieko Nakamura.
01:00:18Did she say that in front of you?
01:00:22Even now, when I say something, she says,
01:00:24Oh, that's...
01:00:25Oh, that's... You shut up.
01:00:27It's usually different from what you say.
01:00:31You're blocked.
01:00:33That's funny.
01:00:36Is there anyone else you've forgotten,
01:00:38but who you thought was wonderful?
01:00:41Daisuzu Yamada is a really wonderful woman of love.
01:00:47A woman of love?
01:00:49Is she in love?
01:00:50Yes, she's in love.
01:00:52She said, Mieko, I messed up again.
01:00:55Again?
01:00:57Is it a man's problem?
01:00:59Of course it's a man's problem.
01:01:02Is that so?
01:01:04Yesterday, I got drunk and went home.
01:01:08I said, I'm home.
01:01:09The man who lived there said,
01:01:13You messed up again.
01:01:15I told him that I had to come back here.
01:01:18I told him that I had to come back here.
01:01:22I wrote it down somewhere in my notebook.
01:01:25It's really wonderful.
01:01:28It's wonderful.
01:01:30She was a really beautiful woman.
01:01:34It's wonderful that her ex-husband said that, too.
01:01:38There are a lot of wonderful Japanese people.
01:01:42Yes, there are.
01:01:45What I feel sorry for these days is that
01:01:49they can't do journalism.
01:01:51They write all kinds of things.
01:01:54Journalism is like that.
01:01:56People write about it on social media, too.
01:01:59Mieko, if you get drunk, tell me.
01:02:03What? If I get thirsty?
01:02:07I'll do it.
01:02:08I don't get thirsty no matter how much I talk.
01:02:10You don't get thirsty?
01:02:12That's good.
01:02:13If you get thirsty, tell me before you drink.
01:02:18I don't drink because the bathroom is close.
01:02:20I see. I didn't mean to say that.
01:02:25And while AKB48 was popular,
01:02:29the consumption of alcohol increased by 8%.
01:02:32In 1926,
01:02:3680-year-old Mieko
01:02:39went on a rampage.
01:02:44I went on a rampage.
01:02:47I went on a rampage.
01:02:48I didn't abandon a man.
01:02:51I abandoned everything.
01:02:54You don't have any regrets about abandoning a man, do you?
01:02:58No.
01:03:00I threw away 50 kimonos.
01:03:03I threw them all away.
01:03:07You also threw away the trophies and awards you received.
01:03:11I'm sure you have some.
01:03:12You also threw them away, didn't you?
01:03:15I used those trophies a lot when I was a baby.
01:03:18What are you talking about?
01:03:20The trophies.
01:03:21Mieko somehow won the Best Actress award.
01:03:25Aren't those important to you?
01:03:28Abandoning a man.
01:03:30I think it's important to remember that in my mind.
01:03:36I do that with everything.
01:03:38You don't abandon Yoshiyuki's stuff, do you?
01:03:42I don't abandon his stuff on my own.
01:03:46I ask him if I can keep his stuff, and then I throw it away.
01:03:51It's hard for him to say no, isn't it?
01:03:56Maybe.
01:03:57When I put his stuff in a plastic bag and threw it away,
01:04:00the garbage collector said,
01:04:04I don't think you can just throw away anything.
01:04:08I was scolded by the garbage collector.
01:04:12Yoshiyuki doesn't tell you not to throw away his stuff, does he?
01:04:15No, he doesn't.
01:04:18Really?
01:04:19Did you give it to someone?
01:04:21Did you give it to Merukari?
01:04:22I gave it to him as much as I could.
01:04:26Merukari is Merukari.
01:04:29What's Merukari?
01:04:30It's Merukari, not Merukari.
01:04:32What's Merukari?
01:04:33When you post something old on the Internet,
01:04:40you say, I don't need this, and then you take a picture and post it.
01:04:44Then people say, I'll buy it for this price.
01:04:48You can find a lot of used stuff for a good price.
01:04:52You shouldn't tell Kozo about this.
01:04:54He'll probably make fun of me.
01:04:58He'll say, I'm sick of it.
01:05:00That's not true.
01:05:03It's so funny.
01:05:06It's funny, isn't it?
01:05:07It's very funny.
01:05:09It's just funny.
01:05:12I've never been told it's cute or beautiful.
01:05:15No, but it's all funny and cute.
01:05:19I don't know what Yoshiyuki thinks.
01:05:21I don't think it's cute or anything.
01:05:25Morishige says, I like your eyes.
01:05:28I thought it was rare, so I asked, what do you like about me?
01:05:32He remembers everything I say.
01:05:36That's how he evaluates you.
01:05:39He remembers what I say.
01:05:43Have you ever been sexually harassed by Morishige?
01:05:46Don't say that.
01:05:48I've been harassed a lot.
01:05:49Everyone's been harassed.
01:05:52How did you avoid it?
01:05:53With Erichiemi, Yukimura Izumi, and me.
01:06:02Mr. Hibari was a bit different.
01:06:06He said, did you get touched by Morishige today?
01:06:09I said, yes, I did.
01:06:11He said, if you're just going to touch him, it can't be helped.
01:06:16It was a good time.
01:06:18If it was now, it would have been a big deal.
01:06:21It would have been a big deal.
01:06:25And now, we'll take a look at Meiko's present and future.
01:06:35Meiko, 89 years old.
01:06:37Her present and future.
01:06:40My favorite episode is when my husband
01:06:44told me to pick up a book from Amazon today.
01:06:49And Meiko said,
01:06:52from Amazon?
01:06:54I was surprised.
01:06:56I asked if it would get wet.
01:06:59It's so far from Amazon.
01:07:03Mr. Yoshizuki was really surprised.
01:07:06I'm sure he was.
01:07:07He was surprised for two or three years after we got married.
01:07:10Two or three years is still surprising.
01:07:14Do you argue with him sometimes?
01:07:16We argue a little even now.
01:07:18Even now?
01:07:19Do you argue now?
01:07:21Yes, we do.
01:07:22He's always quiet.
01:07:26What do you do when he's quiet?
01:07:29I tell him what I want to say, and ask why he's quiet.
01:07:33He says, when did you prepare this?
01:07:35He puts a sticker on his forehead that says,
01:07:38I'm writing a song right now.
01:07:44He doesn't have to be embarrassed.
01:07:46He's so lively.
01:07:48I can't believe it.
01:07:50You don't live with him now, do you?
01:07:54No, we don't.
01:07:56But you live close by.
01:07:57Yes, we do.
01:07:58Is he still a little quiet?
01:08:01Yes, he is.
01:08:03When I was in elementary school,
01:08:07I was watching the kids in the back of the classroom.
01:08:11Everyone was saying, yes, yes.
01:08:13But Kana said, yes.
01:08:18I was so embarrassed.
01:08:21Yes, yes, yes.
01:08:24You were in elementary school?
01:08:25Yes, I was in elementary school.
01:08:27I've heard a lot about you.
01:08:32I can't believe you've come this far in the entertainment business.
01:08:38What are you trying to do?
01:08:40What am I trying to do?
01:08:42I don't know what you're trying to do.
01:08:43I don't know what I'm trying to do.
01:08:44But I'm happy.
01:08:46We want to work until we're old enough to do that.
01:08:50You still work a lot, don't you?
01:08:53When I met you the other day, you were a regular on the radio since you were 85.
01:08:58Yes.
01:08:59Do you still want to work?
01:09:01I want to work, but it's a part of my daily life.
01:09:05When I wake up in the morning, I wonder what my schedule is.
01:09:09I rarely have a day when I don't have anything to do.
01:09:12Wow, that's amazing.
01:09:15What do you think about the current era?
01:09:17The current era?
01:09:18I think it's like this.
01:09:22I see.
01:09:23I've always been like this.
01:09:25You know, during the war, I was very childish.
01:09:29So I think I'm just going to take it as it comes.
01:09:33I see.
01:09:35But I'm worried about the habits.
01:09:38When I was in elementary school, I only went to a regular school.
01:09:44It was Hanihohe and Iroha.
01:09:47Hanihohe and Iroha?
01:09:49Not Doremi, Fa, Sora, Shido.
01:09:51Hoto, Ito, Hoto, Ha.
01:09:53For example, Harunogawa.
01:09:54Ito, Hanihohe.
01:09:56Hoto, Ito, Hoto, Ha.
01:09:58Ito, Hanihohe.
01:10:00Wow.
01:10:01You don't know that, do you?
01:10:03No, I didn't know either.
01:10:04You didn't?
01:10:05Really?
01:10:05I didn't know at all.
01:10:06That's how elementary school was taught.
01:10:08What did they say?
01:10:09Hoto, Ito, Hoto, Ha.
01:10:11Ito, Hanihohe.
01:10:12Hoto, Ito, Hoto, Ha.
01:10:14Ito, Hanihohe.
01:10:16Nihoni, Ito, Ito, I.
01:10:18Haro, Ito, Toho.
01:10:20Hoto, Ito, Hoto, Ha.
01:10:22Ito, Hanihohe.
01:10:23How did you know?
01:10:24I just remembered.
01:10:25You remembered?
01:10:26I think you'd still remember now.
01:10:28You were so excited.
01:10:30You were like,
01:10:32I remember now.
01:10:34You remembered.
01:10:35That's amazing.
01:10:36You didn't know that, did you?
01:10:37You didn't know at all.
01:10:39It's the times.
01:10:40No, it's the times.
01:10:41You don't listen to that much about the times.
01:10:43But when you're young,
01:10:45you get frustrated and angry
01:10:47that the times are changing so fast.
01:10:51But you don't get angry at the world.
01:10:55I don't.
01:10:56You don't.
01:10:57That's why.
01:10:58That's amazing.
01:10:59I don't know if I'm used to it.
01:11:02I heard this before.
01:11:04Even when you're filming a play or a movie,
01:11:08you don't object to what the director says.
01:11:12No.
01:11:13You don't give your opinion.
01:11:16If I were to say the same thing,
01:11:18I'm like that too.
01:11:19When I'm told to do a play,
01:11:21I don't want to do what the director wants to do.
01:11:24That's right.
01:11:25I want to do something close to what the director wants to do.
01:11:28I don't think that's the case at all.
01:11:32If I do what the director wants me to do,
01:11:35it'll go smoothly.
01:11:36That's when the actors are happy.
01:11:39When they say,
01:11:41okay, thank you,
01:11:42I get that feeling right away.
01:11:43What kind of director do you remember?
01:11:47The director I respect the most is Naruse-sensei.
01:11:53Why?
01:11:54He has a great sense of humor.
01:11:57He has a great sense of humor.
01:11:59But when it comes to Naruse-gumi,
01:12:02there are a lot of serious plays.
01:12:06When I was told to crouch down,
01:12:10I was like,
01:12:11crouching cat, crouching cat.
01:12:14Don't mess with me.
01:12:17Do I sound like him a little bit?
01:12:21I make a lot of mistakes.
01:12:23You make mistakes, but you like it.
01:12:26Don't mess with me.
01:12:29I'm a serious cat, so I don't mess with you.
01:12:33You've been doing a lot of work since you were two and a half years old.
01:12:38I've done this, I've done this show,
01:12:41and I've met people like you.
01:12:44Do you feel proud of yourself?
01:12:46Not really.
01:12:47You don't?
01:12:48You don't?
01:12:49People just leave you behind.
01:12:53What did you have for dinner last night?
01:12:55Last night?
01:12:57That's terrible.
01:12:59You made dinner.
01:13:01Don't tell me you forgot.
01:13:04You suddenly look like a doctor.
01:13:06What did you eat last night?
01:13:08That's not what I meant.
01:13:11You were nervous.
01:13:12No, no, no.
01:13:13I shouldn't have asked that.
01:13:17What did you eat last night?
01:13:19What did I eat last night?
01:13:21Wait a minute.
01:13:22You don't remember, do you?
01:13:24It's strange.
01:13:26What did you eat last night?
01:13:27I remember.
01:13:28What did you eat?
01:13:29I ate spaghetti.
01:13:30What did you eat?
01:13:32Do you cook yourself?
01:13:35I was out yesterday, but I cook a lot now.
01:13:40Because of COVID-19, you have to cook for yourself.
01:13:44That's right.
01:13:45What are you interested in right now?
01:13:47Right now?
01:13:49I don't know.
01:13:52Right now...
01:13:54I don't know.
01:13:55I've never been interested in anything.
01:14:00Ever since I was a kid.
01:14:02Ever since you were a kid.
01:14:04It just comes to you.
01:14:06That's right.
01:14:06Why do you want to do this today?
01:14:08That's right.
01:14:10When I asked him what he wanted to do, he said nothing.
01:14:14He just wanted to find something interesting.
01:14:19That's right.
01:14:20He was inspired by your father's humorous novel.
01:14:22That's right.
01:14:23Are you okay with COVID-19?
01:14:26I'm not infected at all.
01:14:28I'm not infected at all with infectious diseases.
01:14:35Not at all?
01:14:36I've never been sick since I was a kid.
01:14:40You've never been sick?
01:14:41I've never been sick at all.
01:14:42Because you're on a submarine.
01:14:45A fighter jet.
01:14:46You're on a fighter jet.
01:14:48Even if you're on a submarine in such a small space, you won't get sick.
01:14:51The fighter jet is amazing.
01:14:53Are you strong?
01:14:56I don't know. I'm thin.
01:14:58I've had a fever.
01:15:01I've had a fever.
01:15:04I've always liked interesting things since I was a kid.
01:15:07When I first became infected with the fighter jet,
01:15:10my mother took me to the hospital.
01:15:12She said,
01:15:14Meiko, this is a disease called the fighter jet.
01:15:20Do you understand?
01:15:22Why don't you answer?
01:15:23The fighter jet.
01:15:25The fighter jet.
01:15:27That's what she said.
01:15:29Meiko's voice is really funny.
01:15:34Really?
01:15:35The fighter jet.
01:15:38Next, Gakuya Tanaka.
01:15:40Again?
01:15:43Next, Hibari.
01:15:44No, no, no.
01:15:48You're being mean.
01:15:49I'm not being mean.
01:15:50I thought you were good.
01:15:52That face.
01:15:54Let's see.
01:15:56Today is the 5th year of Reiwa.
01:15:59What kind of day was it today?
01:16:03It's the usual day.
01:16:07It doesn't change.
01:16:08It doesn't change.
01:16:08It doesn't change no matter where you are.
01:16:10It doesn't change.
01:16:11That's a great answer.
01:16:13It's like everyday life.
01:16:16So I had three children.
01:16:18I gave birth to them in a natural way.
01:16:22At that time, I was like,
01:16:24how many more times will this go on?
01:16:28Please bring me a hand mirror, nurse.
01:16:32I wondered what kind of face I would make when I was in pain.
01:16:37You're an actress.
01:16:39I'm a little bit like an actress.
01:16:43That was amazing.
01:16:48I'll give you my answer.
01:16:50But it was really fun.
01:16:53Did I talk too much?
01:16:54Not at all.
01:16:54You still have a lot to talk about.
01:16:56I've been here for 90 years, but I haven't talked too much.
01:17:00Next time, I'd like to work with Mr. Enoken and Mr. Entatsu-Achako.
01:17:09I'll tell you a lot of interesting stories.
01:17:13I'll tell you about Kansai next time.
01:17:16Thank you very much.
01:17:18It was fun. Thank you.
01:17:21Did I talk too much?
01:17:22Not at all.
01:17:22Not at all.
01:17:24Finally, a great senior in Showa period,
01:17:27Ms. Meiko Nakamura's words of life.
01:17:35With a soft heart like a baby's,
01:17:38forever,
01:17:41Meiko Nakamura.
01:17:48It was really fun.
01:17:50Thank you very much.
01:17:52That's amazing.
01:17:52How long did you do it?
01:17:53Was it okay to do that?
01:17:56It's such a waste to edit it again.
01:17:59Let's ride again.
01:18:00Really? You haven't drunk yet.
01:18:02I haven't drunk yet.
01:18:03I'll go.
01:18:04I'll go to your house.
01:18:05With your cooking.
01:18:07It was fun. I'm glad to meet you.
01:18:09Let's ride again.
01:18:11I'll contact Mr. Hazuki first.
01:18:13I can talk to Mr. Hazuki now.
01:18:16I'll ask him when it's okay.
01:18:18I'll call Mr. Tsurube, too.
01:18:20Was it okay to do that?
01:18:21What do you mean?
01:18:22Master.
01:18:23Master.
01:18:23Please don't call me that.
01:18:24Master.
01:18:28It was fun.
01:18:30I want to do a lot of fun things.
01:18:32Yes, of course.
01:18:34Thank you very much, everyone.
01:18:36Thank you for your hard work.
01:18:39Is it okay now?
01:18:40It's okay.
01:18:41Ms. Meiko Nakamura, a great senior in Showa period,
01:18:44whom Tsurube and Agawa loved very much.
01:18:48It was a very valuable and wonderful story.
01:18:53Thank you very much.
01:18:56I danced with Mr. Tsurube.
01:18:59I cried.
01:19:01I made a scary face.
01:19:03It was the fifth time.