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00:00Do you know that this book was published 10 years ago and became a million-seller?
00:05Of course!
00:06It's a story about a gal in her last year of high school who studies hard and gets into K-1.
00:11It was also made into a movie and became quite popular.
00:15Today's guest is her.
00:17Wow!
00:18It's amazing!
00:19I would like to ask her what kind of life she has been living since then.
00:25Yes.
00:34Today's guest is Sayaka Kobayashi.
00:37Nice to meet you.
00:38Nice to meet you, too.
00:39Nice to meet you, too.
00:40When the book by Virigal was published, it wasn't at that time.
00:45That's right.
00:46Everyone had a time lag.
00:48I thought I was still a college student.
00:50I thought so, too.
00:51When I was asked if I was 36 years old, I was surprised.
00:56What kind of work do you do now?
00:59As a member of Virigal, I have been doing performances and preparing for a company.
01:07I'm a senior.
01:08She is a senior.
01:09Yes, I am.
01:10We'll talk about what kind of company she is later.
01:14Yes, we will.
01:15I think so.
01:16I can see that a lot of things have happened.
01:21Yes, I can see that.
01:23She has made a lot of things.
01:25Let me introduce her resume.
01:28Ms. Kobayashi graduated from a high school in Nagoya and entered Keio University.
01:33After entering Best Bridal, she became a bicycle parts specialist,
01:38a wedding producer,
01:40and a member of two international universities.
01:43She is now preparing for a company.
01:45That's right.
01:46That's a lot.
01:47That's a lot.
01:48Yes.
01:49It's amazing.
01:50There's a camera.
01:51Oh, hello.
01:52I'm going to talk about Ms. Kobayashi's life here.
01:54It's cute.
01:55First of all, I'm going to talk about the form.
01:58What kind of student were you?
02:00I was in the first year of junior high school.
02:03I was on the escalator.
02:05I was wondering how I could finish the show without studying.
02:12That's why I'm here.
02:14I go to karaoke and go home in the morning.
02:17My father is waiting for me.
02:19And I'm trying to get my hair dyed so that I don't get caught by the teachers at school.
02:24You had a date with a teacher.
02:27The teacher will appear.
02:28Yes.
02:29He is a teacher at a cram school.
02:31Mr. Tsubota, the author of Gyaru, changed my life.
02:36I'm sorry, but I was hated by the teachers at school.
02:42He was the only adult who listened to me for the first time.
02:47He was a benefactor.
02:48Your life has changed since you met Mr. Tsubota.
02:52I went to a cram school and met Mr. Tsubota.
02:56My life has changed.
02:58Gyaru wears very high heels.
03:01Yes.
03:02I asked him who he was.
03:04He said he was an old man.
03:06I thought he was like a circus performer.
03:10That's a good word.
03:12I was glad that he didn't get angry.
03:15I wanted to talk to him every day.
03:20Mr. Kobayashi was under 30 years old.
03:23Why did he drop out of Keio University?
03:26At first, he asked me if I was interested in Tokyo University.
03:30Tokyo University?
03:31Yes.
03:32Tokyo University, right?
03:33Yes.
03:34At that time, Tokyo University was a gyaru bias.
03:40I thought it was a world where only men with glasses like a milk bottle.
03:45I said I wasn't interested.
03:47The teacher shined his eyes and said,
03:49Oh, you can't go.
03:51You don't want to go.
03:53That's interesting.
03:54I thought it was unusual.
03:56I asked him what Keio University was like.
03:58I thought it was Keio Sakura Shokun.
04:02To enter Keio University,
04:04I studied for 15 hours a day under the guidance of Mr. Tsubota.
04:10I passed the entrance exam.
04:14Then I got this advice from Mr. Tsubota.
04:19He said I was talking about people all the time.
04:23I talked about my friends, my mom, and my dad.
04:27I was talking about people all the time.
04:29He said I was a person who liked people very much.
04:33He said my life would change depending on the weather.
04:38He told me to live my life so that I could meet as many people as possible when I go to Tokyo.
04:45He gave you advice up to that point.
04:47That's right.
04:48Mr. Tsubota is a life-supporting person.
04:52Who is the person who will have a great influence on your future career?
04:55I met him at this store.
04:58I think it's Silve.
05:00I was working part-time at Silve in Shimokitazawa.
05:04It's a very popular store.
05:07It's very busy, but everyone is working hard.
05:11I've never seen a store like this before.
05:14It's a place where I learned about the beauty of service work.
05:19I worked part-time at a bar for three years.
05:22I asked Mr. Tsubota what I wanted to do as a service worker in the future.
05:29When I told Mr. Tsubota that I wanted to work as a service worker,
05:32he introduced me to a book called The Moment to Exceed the Service that Ritz-Carlton Hotel Values.
05:38I read the book and decided to get a job at Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
05:43The next day, I went to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Roppongi for an interview.
05:52At Ritz?
05:53Yes, at Ritz.
05:54I said, I want to work here.
05:57I was surprised.
05:58I couldn't get in.
05:59Oh, you couldn't get in?
06:00Yes.
06:01It's a top-notch hotel, so it's only a part-time job.
06:04I checked with the HR department.
06:07They told me that they were looking forward to working with me.
06:13I said, I'll do my best.
06:15I said, I'll come back after training.
06:18She said she would work at Ritz-Carlton Hotel someday.
06:21After training, she got a job.
06:26I was wondering where the high-quality job was.
06:30I thought it was a wedding.
06:32Weddings are very unusual.
06:35You can't make a mistake.
06:37Everyone has to be happy.
06:40So I went there.
06:41It was like a bouquet.
06:44I thought I could get into Ritz if I became a top-notch wedding planner.
06:48You got a job at Best Bridal.
06:51That's right.
06:52Best Bridal manages weddings and performances.
06:59What kind of work did you do at Best Bridal?
07:02We were divided into two teams.
07:04The first team was a sales team.
07:08The sales team was a tour guide.
07:14The second team was a production team.
07:22The meeting started from there.
07:25I was in the production team.
07:27I had the ability to recommend what I thought was good.
07:33If I happened to be in the sales team, everything would be decided.
07:39I was about to be sent to the sales team.
07:42Then I said I would quit.
07:44I'm sorry.
07:45Did you understand?
07:46I didn't understand.
07:47You found something you were good at.
07:50I want to be a planner.
07:52Not a sales team.
07:54When I was sent to the sales team, I said I would do it if I was in charge of it.
08:00You continued as it was.
08:02If I was in charge of it, I decided to do it.
08:07I had a lot of authority.
08:09That's right.
08:12Did you have fun?
08:13I had a lot of fun.
08:14I wrote letters to each other every week.
08:17I cried and said I was lonely.
08:20Did you go up the hill and go down the hill?
08:26I was too busy.
08:28I worked from 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. and worked until 2 a.m.
08:33I couldn't sleep and I didn't have a break.
08:36I couldn't stop working all year round.
08:39Your body is honest.
08:41I couldn't eat lunch.
08:43If I didn't have enough nutrition, I couldn't sleep.
08:47I was sick.
08:51Two years after joining the company, Kobayashi left the company.
08:55I moved to Nagoya.
08:57I moved to a company where my father's acquaintance imported bicycle parts.
09:06It was a white company.
09:08I went there at 9 a.m. and came back at 6 p.m.
09:11What did you do there?
09:14I went to a bicycle shop to sell bicycle parts.
09:21But I had to go back to the wedding.
09:24You had to go back to Ritz-Carlton.
09:26You had a dream.
09:28I had too many weddings.
09:30I had to go back to Ritz-Carlton.
09:36After working in Nagoya for half a year,
09:39she decided to work at a wedding in Tokyo again.
09:45I had an acquaintance who was in a venture company.
09:50He asked me to work as a business manager at a wedding.
09:55I went back to Tokyo.
09:58Who is this person?
10:01The manager of Silvia came back to Tokyo.
10:06This is Silvia.
10:08I'm going to marry this person.
10:11Is that so?
10:13I became independent just after I got married.
10:17I had my own shop.
10:20Did you talk about working together?
10:23Yes.
10:24I continued my wedding work here.
10:28I helped my husband at that time.
10:32I see.
10:34And there is this person.
10:37There is also a book behind it.
10:39This is my mother.
10:41Why did my mother come out at this time?
10:44At that time, my younger brother got married.
10:49My younger sister also went to Jochi University.
10:53My mother wrote a letter to my teacher.
10:59She wrote a letter to my teacher.
11:06When I read the letter, I felt like I wanted to give a gift to my family.
11:12This is a pass-experience machine that Mr. Tsugota sent to Ms. Kobayashi's mother as a gift.
11:18It became a hot topic when it was posted on the Internet, and it was published by Virigal.
11:23Then, Ms. Kobayashi has more and more requests for performances as a Virigal.
11:30My life is really going up.
11:34You do a lot of things you want to do.
11:36That's right.
11:37Thanks to Virigal, my life has changed.
11:40I have a lot of children.
11:42I thought that Virigal was amazing.
11:44At the peak, I performed about 120 times a year.
11:48Three times a day?
11:49I was on the Shinkansen or airplane for a long time.
11:53That's why it's a Japanese tradition.
11:55That's right.
11:56This is Kikugawa.
11:57It's a legendary gal.
12:00I've been to China, Singapore, and India.
12:04India?
12:05Yes.
12:07As I continued to perform, I had a question for Ms. Kobayashi.
12:14Everyone says that Virigal is just smart.
12:21I was told that I was smart.
12:23I was told that I was smart, so I couldn't go to K-1.
12:27When I went to K-1, I was told that I was smart.
12:30I thought it wasn't good for my children.
12:33I want to be like Virigal.
12:35I want my children to think that I can do it because I can do it.
12:40But if I'm told that I'm smart, I can't do it because I'm not smart.
12:44I can't make an effort.
12:46That's right.
12:47Why was I so motivated?
12:50Why did I learn so much in that way?
12:55I started to have the motivation to prove Virigal scientifically.
13:01To prove Virigal scientifically?
13:03I see.
13:04If I can be more confident that I can do it because I did it,
13:10I think the story of Virigal will be more meaningful to many people.
13:15That's interesting.
13:18I'm going to get a divorce.
13:21With the manager?
13:22Yes.
13:23When I started to think about what I could do as Virigal for my children,
13:28my vision for the future was a little off.
13:32I was told that I should live separately.
13:36I see.
13:37So I got a divorce.
13:40Kobayashi-san got a divorce at the age of 29.
13:44She is going to take a new action to prove Virigal scientifically.
13:52First of all, I went to a high school in Sapporo to do my internship.
13:56A high school principal told me that it's good to learn from children at the site.
14:03So I was told that I should stay at the site for a while if it's okay at my school.
14:11She moved to Sapporo alone.
14:13While interacting with teachers and students,
14:16she looked back on the school she hated in high school.
14:22I thought there were only bad teachers in high school.
14:25But I realized that they were only thinking about students.
14:31I felt sorry for them.
14:33I thought all teachers in high school were good.
14:36From that point, I started to be interested in how to deepen the learning of children and make it more efficient.
14:46After the internship, I went to a place called Seishun Joshi University to study science.
14:51What kind of research do you do?
14:56I was interested in how to change the teaching method of children and how to change the learning of children.
15:06I told my teacher that I have a method of teaching like this.
15:12I became a researcher to support my teacher.
15:17I worked on how to change the teaching method of children for a year.
15:22Kobayashi-san.
15:23If you continue to research the field of learning science, you will find new challenges.
15:29Even if the teacher's learning method changes,
15:33I realized that it doesn't make sense if the system of entrance exams and social recognition don't change.
15:39You learned and saw new challenges.
15:42That's right.
15:43I started to see what I wanted to learn more and more.
15:49I told Tsubota-sensei that I wanted to do more Japanese education.
15:56He told me that I had no choice but to go abroad.
15:59He told me that I had to leave Japan once.
16:03Then?
16:05At first, I thought it was impossible.
16:09I couldn't speak English.
16:11I'm 30 years old now.
16:14I thought it was impossible to study abroad.
16:16Kobayashi-san, who graduated from university at the age of 32,
16:21studied English hard to study abroad.
16:25And two years later.
16:27What is the goddess of freedom?
16:31I went to Columbia University in New York.
16:35I majored in cognitive science.
16:39The most important thing in cognitive science is learning science.
16:43So it's better to know cognitive science when you look at it broadly.
16:47Yes.
16:48I thought that if I could understand Japanese mindset and cognitive science a little more,
16:54I would be able to find an effective way to approach it.
17:00So I majored in cognitive science.
17:03The first New York life she learned with students from all over the world was a series of surprises.
17:14My life and values have changed completely.
17:17How did it change?
17:19New York is the ultimate individualism.
17:22I only think about myself.
17:24So, conversely, it doesn't matter what others do.
17:28It's good.
17:29It's like good luck.
17:30The ultimate groupism is Japan.
17:35Oh, I see.
17:36So I thought it was a miracle that I didn't do any garbage.
17:40I thought it was so different.
17:46Have you ever studied abroad?
17:47I haven't.
17:48You can speak English well, but you've been in Japan all the time.
17:51I've been in Japan all the time.
17:52I want to go there someday.
17:54Living in a different country means that you can broaden your horizons.
18:02Ms. Kobayashi studied cognitive science at a university for two years and graduated this year.
18:08She has come to understand the good and bad points of Japanese education.
18:15I just came back from Japan in July.
18:19What are you doing now?
18:21Now...
18:23What is Ms. Kobayashi going to do?
18:28I told her to do her best, but it's better to raise the resolution.
18:34She is delivering a talk that couldn't be broadcasted on TV.
18:42That's why I was so motivated.
18:44I thought Ms. Tsubota was a genius.
18:48I moved to Sapporo by myself.
18:53I interned at a school for four months.
19:01Ms. Kobayashi is the main character of the bestseller book.
19:06She studied cognitive science at Columbia University of Education and returned to Japan in July.
19:13What is she going to do?
19:16At Columbia University of Education, I learned a lot of things.
19:21There are so many elements that it's a waste to just think about it.
19:26Japanese people say,
19:29I'm telling you to do your best for the time being.
19:32It's better to raise the resolution.
19:35It's also important to know what conditions will motivate you.
19:39This is also a very important topic in cognitive science.
19:42This is also linguistic.
19:43That's why I was so motivated.
19:46I was able to understand it theoretically.
19:49I thought Ms. Tsubota was a genius.
19:52Did Ms. Tsubota know about learning science?
19:55She is a psychologist.
19:58She is doing it intentionally.
20:01She told me that it was like a circus.
20:04I'm going to use it as a textbook and start a new business.
20:10What kind of business is it?
20:13I want to do a business that raises confidence in Japanese people while learning English.
20:20I learned it here while assuming it.
20:23I'm going to use English for that.
20:27How about you, Ms. Shin?
20:30I've been guided by Ms. Tsubota.
20:34Ms. Kobayashi said that it was wonderful to meet such a person who gave important words where necessary.
20:45But I also thought that Ms. Tsubota's charm was that she wanted to support people all the time.
20:54Thank you very much.
20:56I'm really lucky.
20:58I thought I would be lucky if I didn't get involved in the world.
21:02I'm looking forward to it.
21:04This is the first time I've heard of such a company, so please tell me a lot.
21:09Please contact me next time.
21:12Thank you very much.
21:15Ms. Shin's recommended My Book
21:20Please give me a book that is useful for changing jobs this time as well.
21:24A book that tells you how to change your way of working in the age of A.I.
21:29If you do this, you'll find out if you can survive in society.
21:34A talk that couldn't be broadcast on Teletubbies.
21:39It's almost no cut.
21:42That's why I was so motivated.
21:46I thought Ms. Tsubota was a genius.
21:49I have a question for the president.
21:52The ninth issue is over 1 trillion yen in sales.
21:55President Yamakita of JTB, the pioneer of the travel industry.
22:00I would like to hear about your travel plan.
22:04It's not just about watching baseball.
22:07I'd like you to be on the field and experience it from the same perspective as the players.
22:11I'd like you to set up a special program like that.
22:14It's a competition from all sides.
22:16The key to growth is a travel agency?
22:20JTB is not just a travel industry.
22:24I quit the term travel agency about 20 years ago.
22:29Traveling is one way, but it has a purpose.
22:32If you provide various solutions to achieve that purpose,
22:36You can create programs related to children's SDGs.
22:40If you say that you want to increase the engagement of employees,
22:44I'll break the program that fits it.
22:47The biggest crisis we've faced in this.
22:50How did you overcome this?
22:53I'd like you to tell me what was the most difficult decision as a manager.
22:57I had a hard time cutting bonuses and reducing my salary.
23:02There were 29,000 employees at the time, but I decided to talk to them as much as possible.
23:07In addition, the secret of JTB continues, such as how to deal with low-paying jobs and how to attract young people.
23:15It's being distributed on Teletubbies.
23:18I did something like recruiting.
23:21A lot of people came and I was scared.
23:24I haven't seen it yet.
23:27I haven't seen it yet. Please take a look.
23:30This time, I'd like to ask you to write a book that will help you find a job.
23:34White color extinction. How should we change the way we work?
23:39Recently, I've heard a lot about how AI is going to make white color disappear.
23:46I think a lot of people think that we need to recalibrate.
23:56When you recalibrate, you can see what you should choose from what point of view.
24:09Please read it.
24:11This program is broadcast on TVer and Teletubbies.
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24:24Remember a little word and show it to that person.
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24:29Looks delicious.