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00:00Sheikh sahib, tell me one thing, when the 24th November protest was going on,
00:07I was informed and we shared that 3-4 things were on the table offer.
00:14One was that the prisoners, including Yasmin Rashid sahiba,
00:19were to be taken out phase-wise and allowed to go to medical grounds.
00:23The rest were to be taken out in phases according to their age.
00:26The small things that you do with Khan sahib,
00:29which you can call chichorapan,
00:31or pressure tactics,
00:32like shutting down the electricity for 4 days,
00:34shutting down the newspapers for 2 days,
00:36irritations,
00:37Chichorapan, the man under pressure.
00:39Irritating things will not happen.
00:41He will stay comfortable.
00:43Bushra Bibi's cases will not be dragged into everything like that.
00:48But, release is out of the question right now.
00:51It is still a very simple solution.
00:53If elections are held today, the issues will be resolved.
00:55There will be clarity.
00:56If elections are not held,
00:58clearly, their release,
01:00their redline,
01:02their ruling alliance,
01:03their establishment,
01:04everything,
01:05then what is left in the discussion?
01:07If you don't get elections,
01:08if you don't get Khan sahib's release,
01:10then isn't this an exercise in futility?
01:14No sir, I understand that we should not jump to the conclusions
01:18before the dialogue.
01:20This is a serious matter.
01:22I understand that Khan sahib's release,
01:26not just his,
01:27but Khan sahib has said,
01:28not just me,
01:29but these 4-5 people,
01:30including the former governor,
01:31Mahmood Rashid,
01:33Senator Ijaz Chaudhry,
01:34Dr. Yasmin Rashid sahiba,
01:36not just them,
01:37every single person who is in there,
01:38their release,
01:39and the Judicial Commission,
01:41high-powered,
01:42we cannot compromise on that.
01:44I understand that it depends
01:46on the number of talks,
01:48discussions,
01:49and how serious it is,
01:50and how much people want to resolve this matter.
01:52That will depend on that,
01:54and I don't think there is any solution other than that.
01:57I don't see any other way other than that.
02:00The form of the committee tells us a lot.
02:03You have 8-9 people,
02:05the government has 9 people,
02:07including Ali Khan sahib,
02:08Salik Hussain,
02:09Jaz-ul-Haq,
02:10and Maghzi sahib.
02:1218 people.
02:14We have seen that whenever there are committees,
02:16when there are 18-18 people sitting,
02:18after those committees,
02:19there is a martial law.
02:20And where there are 4-4 people sitting,
02:22there is a solution.
02:23So do you see this as a solution,
02:25or a martial law?
02:27Historically,
02:29it is like you are saying,
02:31and things are like that,
02:33practically,
02:34no matter how short it is,
02:36and I don't know what you want me to say,
02:38but I have been told that
02:40when there is such a big issue,
02:42and such an important issue,
02:43and there are different sensitivities,
02:45and every province has a stake in it,
02:47and especially if the whole country has a stake,
02:50then people want to be a part of this process,
02:55so that they can play their role in it.
02:58I think a lot of people were ready to play a role there as well.
03:01And here,
03:02Ali Khan sahib nominated 5 people first,
03:06and 2 people later,
03:08seeing the nature of it,
03:09seeing the legalities,
03:11he nominated 2 people.
03:13So let's hope for,
03:14let's be positive.
03:15Yesterday,
03:16Rahul Fasal sahib said in my show,
03:19that we are negotiating indirectly with the establishments.
03:23Really?
03:24Is that true?
03:26See,
03:27he said this in your show as well,
03:28and you gave me a lot of headlines,
03:30and again and again,
03:31and I asked him,
03:33I said,
03:34these headlines you gave in Malik sahib's show,
03:36they are going on again and again.
03:38And earlier as well,
03:39you said something,
03:40that it looks like,
03:42and you remember,
03:44that you gave a news,
03:46that Rahul Fasal sahib will not be punished.
03:48I don't know who gives such news.
03:50No, no.
03:51I said,
03:52it won't be announced.
03:53They have to punish him.
03:55I said,
03:56it won't be on the 23rd.
03:58People have given such news,
04:01I don't know who will give such news to you.
04:03Sir, there are a lot of people who give such news.
04:06We should have known,
04:07where to get the grains.
04:09No, no.
04:10It's fine, sir.
04:11So, I understand,
04:12that the thing is,
04:13if you see Rana Sanahullah sahib's statement,
04:15and the meaning of it is,
04:17as soon as he said it,
04:19that the establishment's approval,
04:21or his...
04:22In my show,
04:23he said,
04:24that pre- and post-approval will be included.
04:26Yes.
04:27So, obviously,
04:28I think,
04:29Rana sahib is talking sense,
04:31and a government,
04:33a government,
04:34on which we are blaming ourselves,
04:36and keep blaming,
04:37that it's installed,
04:38form 47 is there,
04:39it's been set up,
04:40the establishment has its hands on it.
04:42So,
04:43if what we are saying is like this,
04:45then why should we think,
04:47that this is happening with us.
04:48Personally,
04:49if I ask you,
04:50on a scale of 1 to 100,
04:52in your opinion,
04:53what is the probability of success,
04:55which you can call a victory,
04:56that yes,
04:57our negotiations were successful.
04:59How many percent possibility do you see?
05:02Possibility of the success of this committee,
05:06or...
05:07Yeah,
05:08of this whole negotiation process.
05:10Sir,
05:11see,
05:12it will be very difficult to predict this now,
05:14because the first meeting that took place,
05:16Malik bhai,
05:17that was very pleasant,
05:19but,
05:20you see,
05:21you heard Khawaja Asif sahib's conversation,
05:24that same night,
05:25from London,
05:26from many channels,
05:27he was shown Haza Sarai live,
05:29spoilers are everywhere,
05:31so,
05:32I think,
05:33if the second or third meeting takes place,
05:35at that time,
05:36we will be able to tell you,
05:38exactly,
05:39what is their seriousness,
05:41and what are their chances.
05:42It is difficult to say this now,
05:44because apparently,
05:45things are looking good.
05:47Okay.
05:48Sheikh sahib,
05:49thank you very much.

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