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Transcript
00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, Sheikh Sahib.
00:02Wa-Alaikum-Salaam, Wa-Alaikum-Salaam.
00:04Sheikh Sahib, there are two very interesting developments today.
00:06First, let's listen to Gauhar Sahib, because he raised a very important point in one of his earlier programs,
00:12which I think I was asking you as well,
00:14that this is an open-ended dialogue, and the government has been running it for a long time.
00:20Today, it seems that Khan Sahib has said that there should be a time frame for this.
00:23But let's listen to that as well, and more importantly,
00:27according to me, President Alvi Sahib's statement is very interesting,
00:30and I would like to hear your comment on that as well, but first, let's listen to both of them.
00:57When the negotiations begin, we will resume the preparations for civil disobedience.
01:01Is there anything to be said on this?
01:03No, no, there is nothing to be said on this.
01:05Whatever we have said is basically related to the negotiations.
01:11The one who has power over the one who has power.
01:15The one who has power, not the government.
01:17There is a policy where there are genuine differences.
01:19There is no policy where there is occupation.
01:21I would like to give him some advice.
01:23Even now, backstab Vatik somehow.
01:25Even now, convince Vatik somehow.
01:28Even now, reverse the regime change completely.
01:32Leave Imran Khan Sahib and put him under house arrest.
01:35I would advise Khan Sahib not to follow this policy.
01:39It is not a matter of one and a half months.
01:41Khan Sahib would have been there,
01:43on whose basis this regime change was brought about.
01:45The same leaders have weakened his oxygen.
01:47Change is about to come.
01:49The Sitaras have come into confluence,
01:51domestic and international.
01:53At that time, Sadr Alvi Sahib did not raise his sword
01:57when he was Sadar.
01:59And Khan Sahib was expecting a few things from him.
02:01Now he has raised a very scary type of sword.
02:04In fact, he also says that even if Khan Sahib is moved
02:07from Patiala to his house,
02:09he should not do that either.
02:11He should not do that at all.
02:13He himself is sitting comfortably at home.
02:15Why is he suddenly raising his sword?
02:18I don't know, sir.
02:20He is a political worker.
02:22He is a member of the party.
02:24He can talk about such things.
02:26He is the Sadar of the Sahib.
02:28He has a lot of respect for him.
02:30But the reality is that
02:32Khan Sahib's instructions and guidelines
02:34are his hand-picked committee.
02:36And to what extent he can go ahead
02:38and to what extent he will go ahead,
02:40some of that has been told to him.
02:42And for some, the committee has accepted
02:44Imran Khan Sahib as an access.
02:46Because without meeting Imran Khan Sahib,
02:48a second or third round of these talks
02:50will not be possible.
02:52So this is the discretion of that committee.
02:54I think that we should leave it to the committee
02:58which will talk in the light of Imran Khan Sahib's guidelines.
03:05And whatever the result will be on that,
03:07obviously, it cannot be acceptable
03:09without Imran Khan Sahib's consent.
03:11I think that whatever the stance will be,
03:13whatever the position will be,
03:15this is just a preliminary meeting.
03:17So why is Mr. Arvind's house doors
03:19closed on him?
03:21He says, go home.
03:23Stay in jail.
03:25First of all, I think that
03:27every person has emotions.
03:29And he expresses his emotions
03:31according to his nature
03:33and respects his opinion.
03:35But I think that
03:37this negotiation team
03:39has the right to
03:41exercise their rights.
03:43And Imran Khan Sahib
03:45will tell him
03:47how far he can go.
03:49And he will understand it better.
03:51We think that
03:53all the cases of Imran Khan Sahib
03:55are false.
03:57And Imran Khan Sahib should be free.
03:59The government will want
04:01to engage for a long time
04:03in negotiations.
04:05We were also talking about this in the program.
04:07That there should be a time frame.
04:09But Mr. Gauhar came out and said
04:11that the time frame should be
04:13as soon as possible.
04:15Do you think that
04:17without a specific time frame,
04:19the negotiations
04:21will be meaningful?
04:23They will not be meaningful at all.
04:25You have raised the right
04:27concern.
04:29And this was Mr. Khan's concern as well.
04:31That's why we want to meet
04:33Imran Khan Sahib as soon as possible.
04:35So that
04:37the realistic time frame
04:39of keeping in view
04:41whatever the situation is
04:43inside or outside,
04:45will be kept in front of him
04:47before 2nd January.
04:49And if we meet,
04:51without a time frame,
04:53it will be a free-floating situation.
04:55What is your time frame?
04:57Before 20th January
04:59or after 20th January?
05:01Sir, we want
05:03this to be done as soon as possible.
05:05Because every person
05:07who is unlawfully, illegally
05:09detained, is in jail,
05:11is a political prisoner, is innocent,
05:13has fake papers,
05:15he will be in jail for an hour or a minute.

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