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00:00Mr. Mian, what is this? I think this is a complete drama.
00:04I was watching your Government Delegation, this is a Muzakirati Committee.
00:08This committee consists of 2-4 people, you have a complete Jalsa,
00:12and people whom you didn't ask in the 26th amendment,
00:15didn't ask in the budget, didn't ask in the judicial matters.
00:18Mr. Aleem Khan has also joined it, Mr. Saleh Hussain has also joined it,
00:22Mr. Maghzi has also joined it, today Ijaz-ul-Haq has also joined it.
00:25This is a mess, as the Punjabis say, it's a complete mess.
00:29It looks like you people are not serious, this is how you are doing it.
00:35Thank you, Mr. Mohammad Malik.
00:38But before answering this question, I would like to say that
00:43Muzakirat is a good thing.
00:47At any time, whether it is the Government of the time or the opposition of the time,
00:53there should be dialogue. This is the beauty of democracy.
00:57This is how the issues are resolved.
01:01But before that, there are some basic principles,
01:06which are taken seriously,
01:09that these Muzakirat are really to reach a point,
01:15to reach a conclusion,
01:18or just show your face and move on.
01:22The thing is that when the Muslim League and the People's Party,
01:27the two major parties of that time,
01:30who had become enemies of each other,
01:33when they had established democracy,
01:36first of all, Mr. Mohammad Malik had admitted that
01:40both of us were wrong,
01:42both of us were used for someone,
01:45our shoulders were used,
01:47we apologize to the nation for that.
01:49He admitted this.
01:51And in the future, he promised that
01:54we will not present our shoulders to anyone.
01:58Now the thing is that this Muzakirati team,
02:03first of all, I should be told how much power this political committee has,
02:08and another committee is running in parallel under the leadership of Imran Khan,
02:13that is the military wing,
02:16and other people are leading them,
02:19and this is the Muzakirati committee.
02:21Now I should be told one more thing,
02:24that this Muzakirati committee that has come,
02:27has it admitted that the people we are making fun of,
02:31they are not crooks, thieves, robbers,
02:34they are angels,
02:36or they are not the progeny of Farm 47,
02:39they should admit this first,
02:41and after that the government of the time should also,
02:44You have heard Mr. Rauf,
02:46he said that we are indirectly making fun of the establishment.
02:52Now let's come to what Mr. Rauf Hassan says,
02:56that we are making fun of the establishment,
02:59then Mr. Mohammad Malik,
03:01how long will the nation be made a fool?
03:04Brother, tell me,
03:06that for the violation of the constitution,
03:09according to Imran Khan,
03:11he was fighting for the democracy of Pakistan,
03:15and according to him,
03:17that I was fighting against the establishment,
03:20or I am fighting,
03:22then why are you making fun of them today?
03:25Then you tell me,
03:27that if you have become old,
03:29if you have settled with each other,
03:32then this was a battle of decency,
03:34and you were suffering,
03:3690% of the state or nation was suffering,
03:40What do you have to give?
03:43Mr. Mian, what can you give to PTI?
04:09Mr. Rauf Hassan,
04:11you always say that the judiciary should be free,
04:14the institutions should be free,
04:16and we also hear from the people of the institutions,
04:19that everything is free,
04:21so first tell me,
04:23that the decision of 190 million pounds,
04:26which was to be made today,
04:28if it has been made in the form of a joke,
04:31then it means that our institutions are not free.
04:35Then the thing happened,
04:37that you tell me,
04:39that 25 people,
04:41who were punished by the workers,
04:44they were ordinary people,
04:46ordinary workers,
04:48that's why they got punished,
04:50and the special people,
04:52are involved in the same case,
04:54are masterminds,
04:55are planners,
04:56but they are big people,
04:58they started making fun of them,
05:00then someone tell me,
05:02that who is deceiving whom,
05:05and why is he doing it,
05:07and he is being deceived again and again.
05:09Look, tell me one thing,
05:11I just want to know,
05:13what can you give in your opinion,
05:15they ask for a commission,
05:17you don't agree with the judicial commission,
05:19they ask for the senior judges,
05:21the two or three senior judges,
05:23you don't tolerate them,
05:25you didn't let them become the chief justice of the Supreme Court,
05:28you didn't let them sit in the judicial commission,
05:30you put a lot of problems in the judges committee,
05:33so you don't agree with that either,
05:35they ask for the 9th of May,
05:39you don't agree with that,
05:41they ask for the next election,
05:43you don't agree with that,
05:45what is there to give,
05:47what can you offer,
05:49we know what they are asking for,
05:51I am asking because,
05:539th of May is the redline of the army,
05:56the army is your lifeline,
05:58so you can't touch the redline,
06:01because your lifeline ends,
06:03so then,
06:05what will your side say to them,
06:07what can you offer them?
06:09Mr. Mohammad Malik,
06:11according to Mr. Rauf Hassan,
06:13the discussions are not happening
06:15with the government of the time,
06:17but with the establishment,
06:19if you listen to Mr. Rauf Hassan,
06:21then you are saying that,
06:239th of May is the redline of the establishment,
06:27then you tell me,
06:29you tell me,
06:31that they have no demands,
06:33the discussion committee of PTI,
06:35they have no authority,
06:37till that time,
06:39they have only one point,
06:41they have only one demand,
06:43they have only one need,
06:45to remove Imran Khan,
06:47if you want to remove Imran Khan,
06:49or you want to remove him,
06:51or you want to fulfill the demand,
06:53or this committee,
06:55wants to draw a conclusion,
06:57then you,
06:59the government of the time,
07:01put him in jail,
07:03and put Imran Khan in government,
07:05then only you can do this,
07:07and who will do this?