Sahibzada Hamid Raza says government is negotiating under international pressure

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00:00You have been playing with the topic of negotiations, what are your expectations?

00:06First tell us about yourself, then I will go to the committee.

00:09I will not play with the topic of negotiations.

00:12There are two things that are a part of our Charter of Demand.

00:17Our demands and conditions have been set.

00:21And neither of them is time-taking.

00:24For example, the government thinks that we are responsible in the 9th May.

00:28We think that we are not responsible, someone else is responsible.

00:31So what is the best way to do that?

00:33The best way is to make a Judicial Commission,

00:35consisting of the senior judges of the Supreme Court.

00:38To find out who is speaking the truth and who is lying.

00:41And after that, if there is a process of punishment, then no one will object to it.

00:44Do you think they will make it?

00:46If they don't make it...

00:47I will ask you a question.

00:49You are a straight man, you give straight answers.

00:51The commission that you are demanding on 26th November and 9th May, will it be made?

00:57It depends on the situation in the next 10-15 days.

01:01On what basis?

01:03The weather, politics, America...

01:07I am not talking about America, I am talking about the overall international pressure.

01:11If that pressure...

01:13Like the 25 accused have just been punished.

01:16And after that, from the European Union,

01:19you think that the last 10 days of Christmas Eve,

01:22no one is available there.

01:24On Sunday, even if your office is closed,

01:27a few people are available there.

01:29And then this kind of...

01:30Did that person write this message?

01:32Sir, they have taken it this way.

01:34Seriously, they have taken it this way?

01:36That's what I am saying, sir.

01:38Actually, on 26th May, the massacre that took place,

01:41After 26th November?

01:42Sorry, after 26th November.

01:43After that, things have changed dramatically.

01:46Because the government first denied that the bullets were fired.

01:49Then it was said that the gunmen of Ali Amin Gandapur fired.

01:52Then it was said that there was air firing.

01:54Then it was said that if there are corpses, give their names.

01:57Today, we have given their names.

01:59I have told them...

02:00Do they accept the off-the-record?

02:01Yes, they do.

02:02Right now, there are 13.

02:04Right now, there are about 200 missing.

02:06How much does the government accept off-the-record?

02:09People said 7-8 in front of me.

02:12No, they go up to 20-25.

02:14Really?

02:15There are some people who talk about 20-25 off-the-record,

02:17that there are so many.

02:19All these issues, due to which,

02:21as you know, the violation of human rights,

02:23and if it is on this scale,

02:25then it has a huge impact.

02:27So, that impact is under pressure from the government.

02:29So, you can see the international pressure,

02:30due to which the government might be ready for these negotiations.

02:33Otherwise, I don't understand any reason

02:35why the government wants to negotiate with us.

02:37You are not sitting with us.

02:38You are sitting idle.

02:39You have ruined homes.

02:40You have martyred people.

02:41People are still being kidnapped.

02:42People are still being kidnapped.

02:43One of our patients, who is a PTI,

02:47was taken to his house at night.

02:52Sir, our child, who was martyred,

02:54Saqib Satti,

02:55his brother was kidnapped the day before yesterday.

02:57His cousin, Mudai, who is in the FIR,

03:00was kidnapped.

03:01And our MNAs,

03:02as you know, in the Parliament session,

03:04all our MNAs are not able to come.

03:08There is pressure on them.

03:10And let me tell you,

03:11those who were taken to their houses,

03:12their LCDs were broken.

03:14The ladies were not police.

03:16Of course, you don't meet your people at home.

03:20We have forgotten our homes.

03:22But what kind of a method is this?

03:24The Punjab Police had gone.

03:26How do you do this?

03:27I mean, how can you do this?

03:28I hope we don't make this a new normal in this country.

03:33Absolutely.

03:34It's okay to enter people's homes.

03:37It's okay to go and vote.

03:39I spoke to a floor of the house.

03:41I spoke to a floor of the house.

03:43You have taken political opponents to personal enmity.

03:47Let me give you my example.

03:49My sister came.

03:50She has nothing to do with politics.

03:52In the case of 9th May,

03:53she is facing a daily trial in the Session Court.

03:55When I am there and she comes,

03:57you can imagine the feeling of a person like me.

04:00So there is a limit for everything.

04:02But sir, you brushed away 9th May very easily.

04:04Your people were present.

04:06The videos were there.

04:07You went to the core commander's house.

04:09You stood outside.

04:10But when the mobs go to one place,

04:12this is also a mob mentality.

04:14In our country, the mob mentality is different.

04:16You are going naked on the road.

04:18You might be hitting someone.

04:19You won't even ask why you are hitting.

04:21Everyone will start together.

04:22This is a mob mentality.

04:23That's what I am saying.

04:24Whoever is responsible…

04:26Even from your party?

04:28Yes.

04:29Mr. Khan had said straight away

04:31that if there is a judicial inquiry,

04:34whoever is responsible,

04:36I will disown him and condemn him.

04:38That's what I am…

04:39Sir, you will conduct an inquiry

04:41that we don't trust.

04:43If you don't trust the inquiry

04:45that we will talk about,

04:47then you should make a judicial commission

04:49of the Supreme Court.

04:51It should be based on senior judges.

04:53They should conduct an inquiry.

04:55Those who are guilty should be punished.

04:57Those who are not guilty…

04:58For the past 1.5-1.5 years,

04:59people are not at home.

05:00People are in jails.

05:01People don't have the money

05:02to pay for food.

05:03People don't have food in their homes.

05:05There is no ration.

05:06People are fed up.

05:08Interestingly,

05:09in one FIR,

05:10at the same time,

05:11one person was present at 45 places.

05:13He was present at 55 places.

05:15We are trying to take the formula

05:17according to which

05:18one person can be present at so many places.

05:20Sir, this is the formula

05:21on which American films are made.

05:23Yes.

05:24You disappear from here

05:25and reach somewhere else.

05:26Yes.

05:27You are going to energize.

05:28There was a film called Gladiator.

05:29Yes.

05:30There is such a thing.

05:31There is a star trek.

05:32Yes.

05:33You press a button

05:34and reach somewhere else.

05:35Something like that.

05:36Anyways.

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