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00:00All right, everyone, welcome back into another live edition of the Patriots Beat Podcast
00:28here on the CLNS Media Network, presented by our wonderful friends over at PrizePix
00:34and GameTime.
00:35It's Brian Hines back, as always, with Alex Barth to break down another Patriots loss
00:41to the Buffalo Bills this week, 24-21, surprisingly a competitive game for longer than I think
00:48a lot of us expected as the Patriots jumped out to an early 14-0 lead, maybe their best
00:54half of football in years, quite frankly, and then you saw some of the same reoccurring
01:01issues with turnover, stuff on the defensive side of the football that ultimately let the
01:05Buffalo Bills back in that and end up taking the win 24-21 again.
01:10So Barth, we'll start kind of where we always start, but maybe the mood is a little different
01:15this week with Gerard Mayo and his coaching staff.
01:19What were your thoughts?
01:20There was a lot of noise around him and Alex Van Pelt and those guys, but what were your
01:25thoughts after, you know, one of their better performances, I would say, in Buffalo yesterday?
01:30Yeah, I think you can argue this was their best well-rounded game of the year, even with
01:35the loss and when you factor in the opponent and all that.
01:40You know, it's kind of hot and cold for the coaching staff.
01:42On one hand, I think on both sides of the ball, they came in with a really good plan.
01:47I think the team showed up ready, prepared.
01:50It was kind of what we were expecting last week coming off the bye.
01:52Now that being said, some of the game management stuff was an issue, especially on offense.
01:58It caused them a chance to maybe win that game and pull off the upset.
02:01So I think, you know, there was a report for me in Rappaport Sunday morning about how the
02:09crafts want to bring Mayo back.
02:10They believe he's the future.
02:12They understand it's a multi-year process and I think I have it right here.
02:17Now, if things go off the rails, if they really start to struggle, if he loses the locker
02:21room, we've seen this thing turn.
02:23That was the quote for me in Rappaport.
02:26That was not, you know, there were some operational issues certainly, but that's not an example
02:30of it going off the rails.
02:32So if that's how ownership felt going into that game and then you got that game, I think
02:37it's probably a good game overall for the coaching staff, especially as it comes to
02:40in terms of job security.
02:42You can agree with that or not.
02:43That's just me assessing the situation, but the game management stuff was the big one
02:48to me.
02:49Like the game planning was probably as good as we've seen all year.
02:51The preparation was probably as good as we've seen all year, but the game management still
02:55leaves a lot to be desired.
02:57Yeah.
02:58Especially the game planning, DeMarcus Covington and Mayo, how much, you know, he had his hand
03:05in that.
03:06Great plan.
03:07A lot of man coverage.
03:08Like they gave Josh Allen and that Bill's offense a lot of fits.
03:11I think they're the first defense to hold them under 300 yards at home.
03:15They stopped their streak.
03:16You know, they've been rattling off 30 points at will and the defense had a good plan.
03:21It might've been the first time maybe early in the year there was a game, but this really
03:26feels like maybe the game that, you know, Covington had is, you know, if you're comparing
03:29coordinators, Covington kind of outcoached Van Pelt and had a better plan coming into
03:34this one.
03:35But yeah, I wrote that.
03:36I wrote that last night that this was the first time in a while we could say the defensive
03:40coaching staff.
03:41Wasn't the bigger issue, but at least since Drake may came in.
03:43So, and that's one game, you know, that doesn't change.
03:46I still think if you're looking at this at the end of the year, if they are going to
03:50keep Mayo, which coordinator do they move on from?
03:52I still think it should be Covington because overall the defense has come up very short.
03:55I would say the offense has kind of made progress as the year has gone on and you even saw some
03:59of that progress yesterday, even though you didn't get the ultimate result, but it wasn't.
04:05Yesterday was a win for the defense.
04:07Yep.
04:08And you did mention some of that game management stuff.
04:10Do you have any, you know, we had the fake punt, which was finally an aggressive move,
04:16move from Mayo, you know, backed up deep in their own territory at their own 23 yard line.
04:19They run the fake punt.
04:22Then a few plays later, they faced fourth and one, they did punt.
04:25They had the other questionable punt later in the fourth quarter.
04:28Were those some of the ones you were looking at, or did you have any other kind of in that
04:31game management department that we can still kind of sit here and critique?
04:35Because ultimately they lost the game and maybe a few of those decisions had an impact.
04:39Yeah.
04:40So I had four sequences that I thought stood out from a game management point of view.
04:46First one comes early in the second quarter.
04:48So the bill score, their first touchdown of the game is 14 seven.
04:53And first of all, they have an illegal formation on the kickoff and the Patriots choose to
04:56take the ball to 27 instead of making the bills free kick, even though they're short
05:00a re-kick, even though they're short a touchback line.
05:03We've seen Gerard Mayo make that decision a few times this year.
05:07That's not even coaching conservative to me.
05:09That's coaching scared.
05:10You're worried about what's going to happen.
05:12You know, on the ensuing kickoff, you're just assuming you're going to mess it up.
05:15So I don't like that.
05:17They do start, uh, they, they struggled to move the ball.
05:22They get to a third down Drake may hits Kendrick Warren on a comeback on the near side on a
05:26third and 10.
05:28The officials rule it one, like a full yard short.
05:33I thought looking at the replay, they, they shorted him by at least a half a yard.
05:37If not a full yard, I thought it maybe should have been a first down.
05:40I didn't love the decision not to challenge that it's the first half timeouts aren't worth
05:44as much.
05:45I know spot rules are really tough to challenge.
05:50That's a situation where I do it because there was a really good look down the line there.
05:54Instead the Patriots elect to punt that punt drew a lot of criticism.
05:58So that's a fourth and one from their own.
06:01I have it here.
06:0236 hard line.
06:03That was the right after the fake punt, right?
06:06No, no.
06:07This was the drive before.
06:08Oh, okay.
06:10So it was Kendrick Boren catches that comeback memory.
06:12He like got caught by the defense back in there.
06:14That was the first one where people were like really questioning the decision.
06:17I didn't mind the punt there as much as I did not challenging the spot.
06:24It wasn't a good spot on the Kendrick form, but there were really bad spots all day.
06:28Honestly, both sides.
06:29This was not a good game from this officiating crew, just a side note.
06:31I don't think it changed the outcome, but I would have challenged that if I were the
06:35Patriots.
06:36Yeah.
06:37I thought, I don't know.
06:38I thought born was behind it.
06:39It was maybe they get like half a yard instead of a full yard and then maybe they break out
06:44the fake punt play there.
06:45Maybe you get that half yard.
06:46You go for it.
06:47Yeah.
06:48But I've been a big half yard.
06:49It was kind of weird.
06:50You know, then the next drive, I guess they do the fake punt of the 23 and then they're
06:55set up.
06:57They get the first down.
06:58They really can't take advantage of it.
06:59They're facing fourth and one at the 34 then, and they put like, if you're going to be aggressive
07:05and risk giving the ball back at the 23, wouldn't you kind of keep the foot on the gas there
07:10and go for it?
07:11Fourth and one.
07:12Also, this was my neck.
07:14This was my next sequence.
07:15So like I said, I have four of them.
07:17So let's rewind a little bit here before that fake point.
07:20They have a third and one and they hand the ball off to Antonio Gibson, gun run, hated
07:28the play call, gun run on a short, you know, got to have a situation.
07:31He actually fumbles and they get stopped.
07:34So it's fourth and one.
07:35They run the fake punt.
07:36So first off, you had the fumble.
07:38They run the fake punt.
07:39And so now you, you, and they were moving it at that point.
07:42I think they'd had a couple first downs before that.
07:45If I remember correctly, before the fake punt, they had, they were at their own 23.
07:50They had one, they had one first down because that was, that was when they were backed up
07:54with Marta.
07:55Right.
07:56Yeah.
07:57The Mopu interception, which the point is, so they have the third one, they go for the
08:02fake punt.
08:03Great.
08:04Do you remember what happened after the fake punt?
08:05Do you remember what the next thing was on the game log?
08:10Was that the timeout they have to burn a timeout because the punt team was too busy celebrating
08:14on the day.
08:15I was like yelling at them on the sideline.
08:17So after that, they do pick up eight yards and then they punt again, which like, okay.
08:24But in the second punt, I would agree with you that I would rather they punt there than
08:29that previous one that people were mad about.
08:33After the after the, what was it after the Bourne play, but this is the second week in
08:38a row now where they've had a big play and then had to call a timeout immediately after
08:44because they didn't get the play in in time.
08:47What happened last week in Arizona, they had a, a, a 10 yard run by Ramond Ray Stevenson,
08:51a 15 yard run by Ramond Ray Stevenson, a 29 yard run by Antonio Gibson.
08:55They're down to like the 12, 13 yard line.
08:58You have the Cardinals on their heels.
09:00They're gas.
09:01They're backed up.
09:02Can't get the plan after 29 yard run timeout and now the Cardinals get a chance to recollect
09:06collect themselves and you lose some of that momentum and game.
09:10Same thing happens in this one.
09:11They run the fake punt.
09:12So you have the defense.
09:13They think they're off the field, like mentally they're back on the bench.
09:16You know, they're starting to go over their checks.
09:17Now suddenly they got to run back on.
09:19This is part of it.
09:20Like you should be catching them on their heels off guard.
09:23Instead, you can't get the, you can't get your own offense back on the field in time.
09:27You can't get the punk team off.
09:29You have to burn a timeout.
09:30Now that momentum's gone.
09:32You can't like that.
09:33You just can't be doing that.
09:35You're throwing away momentum.
09:36You can't afford to lose.
09:38And there's a tangible, again, the defense is on the bench.
09:40They think they're done.
09:41They got to come back out.
09:42They're gas, things like that.
09:45So that's happened two times in a row is a bad look for the coaching staff.
09:48Gerard Mayo uses the term mistake repeater.
09:50That to me falls in the category of mistake repeater.
09:52And they had some issues in this game in particular, getting the play in on time.
09:55We can get to some more of those, I think.
09:58And I believe Mayo this morning when he said they happened for different reasons.
10:00I do think there's some truth to that, but you got to know, like when we hit this, like
10:06that needs to be communicated when we hit the fake punt, we don't have time to stand
10:09out there and celebrate, get off, get the offense back on.
10:12We need to keep going.
10:13They acted like that was the end of the drive and it wasn't.
10:15It's almost like they're surprised when they do something good and they're like, Oh my
10:19God, we did it.
10:20And then they're like, crap, we got to keep doing more stuff like almost in a way.
10:25Cause you're right.
10:26It has kind of happened two weeks in a row there.
10:28So those were, those were questionable.
10:32Did you have the other, the punts later in the fourth quarter?
10:34I don't know if we're skipping over something in your game management there, but then there
10:37was the other punt while we're on punts, you know, the fourth and five at their own 46.
10:42So kind of near midfield, right around eight 30 left, they're down 10, uh, they decide
10:47to punt away.
10:48Now they get the ball back, but Buffalo was able to kind of milk, you know, four or five
10:52minutes off that clock, two possessions.
10:55That one was, you know, interesting choice there.
10:57So this was bad point, bad point.
10:59I would say of all the, we've talked about a lot of conservative decisions from this
11:03coaching staff this year of all the conservative decisions.
11:08That is probably the most conservative when you factor in the setting where they're at.
11:13The other thing I hate about it, it's like, it's one thing punting there.
11:15If it's like a 10, three game and your defense has been rolling and your offense isn't doing
11:20much and it's like, we can get this quick stop, we'll play field position.
11:24Like even then it's 50, 50.
11:27They couldn't stop the run at all.
11:30And did the bills come out and run the ball?
11:32No, because Sean McDermott's an idiot, but they should have come out and run, run, run
11:36in the Patriots.
11:37Lucky they got the ball back at all.
11:38So that's what frustrates me, especially about that call is it's one thing to say, we're
11:41going to put it in the hands of our defense.
11:43When your defense is playing well, the defense wasn't even playing well at that point, especially
11:47against the run, which again, the bills should have done, but I had that sequence.
11:51So I referenced the punt.
11:53Do you remember why it was a fourth and five delay game delay of game?
11:57Because once again, they could not get the call in time.
11:59They broke the huddle with about seven seconds left on the play clock.
12:02They had, it was, they had, I forget what the first down play was.
12:05They had a nine yard gain on first down.
12:07So they had it second and one, and then they go in, I think it was incomplete pass delay
12:11of game, incomplete pass, and then punt on fourth and five.
12:14So, so that's, again, where you got it and that's on van Pelt, get the play in, get the
12:19freaking play.
12:20And I know it's loud there.
12:21I know it's a tough environment.
12:22The clock's right there in front of you.
12:24You can see it.
12:25It should not surprise you.
12:26If that's fourth and one, I'd like to think they go for it, but they couldn't get the
12:30play in in time.
12:31They didn't want to burn the second half time out.
12:33They took the delay and they end up, especially if you know, you're going to have to punt
12:36if it's longer, like call the time out then, frankly, on the third one, which I guess down
12:42two scores, that's, that's a tough one, but that, that was a brutal sequence and I had
12:47one more just at the end there in the red zone, like they get down there.
12:53So they get down to the four with two 26 to go.
12:56And after the punt, as I go out of focus after the punt, I'm thinking like, oh man, this
13:00is, you know, it sucks.
13:01They're not going to get the ball back in time.
13:03They need a couple of scores.
13:04Yada, yada, yada.
13:05Festivus by the way.
13:07And they get down to the four to 26 to go first and goal at the four with two 26.
13:12And I'm thinking you have probably two plays here.
13:16You can score before the two minute warning.
13:19So you're going to have a chance to get the stop with all three timeouts in the two minute
13:22warning.
13:23You might get this thing back with like a minute, minute and a half left, and you can
13:26do an actual drive.
13:27It's not going to be Joey Sly for a 75 yard field goal.
13:31Like you're going to have a real shot at this.
13:34Nine plays a minute, 13 off.
13:36They literally took half the clock.
13:39It went from two 26 to one 13, one 13 off the clock, nine plays.
13:43And part of the reason for that, the bills, and this is good for the good, smart decision
13:47by the bills.
13:48I'll give Sean McDermott this one.
13:49They're just sending the house that Drake may like every play.
13:52And it took four or five plays for Alex van Pelt to kind of figure out, let's call a blitz
13:57beater.
13:58They kept trying to do all this.
14:00They finally rolled Drake out to the left and then dropped it, unfortunately.
14:04But it was just like deja vu over and over again.
14:07They kept trying to do all this other stuff.
14:08And it's like, they're sending everybody just either roll them out or send somebody on a
14:12drag behind the blitz.
14:13And it took them way too long to figure it out.
14:15And it, it, it cost them entirely too much time.
14:18I also like in the time saving time on that one, after one of the PIs, they have first
14:23single at the one with two 14 left.
14:27And so I think you should be throwing to the end zone because that, you know, you could
14:31get three throws to the end zone at the one yard line in before the two minute warning.
14:36Instead they go handoff up the gut, which gets stuffed and they were like still running
14:40on that drive, which was now the clock goes right to the two minute warning.
14:45So you waste all that, you know, 15 seconds there that could have been two or three shots
14:49to the end zone.
14:50And then they come out and Drake has the play where, you know, he drops the ball where Kendrick
14:54born was wide open.
14:55So that's a sack and that ticks 30 seconds off.
14:58So that, you know, as you said, you get the ball back or you score with one 13.
15:03So you waste a lot of time in the runs to it kind of reminded me, remember, I forget
15:07the game specifically, cause there were a lot of these situations earlier in the year,
15:10but they were going on these two minute drives and they were like prioritizing the yard on
15:15second and one and third and one, and they were trying to run it and they got stuffed
15:18a few times.
15:19They did that again because they had it, you know, third and one, let me pull up the game
15:23log here.
15:24It was third and one with three 36 left right around midfield and they run it and they get
15:30stuffed and then they have to go forward on fourth and one and they ran Drake may design
15:34run, which, you know, that was a nice wrinkle from van Pelt.
15:37There were some good things from van Pelt, you know, the design quarterback run game
15:41was one of them, but that, that was just, you know, we, we talked about that a lot in
15:44those end of first half two minute drills earlier in the year, how sometimes they prioritize
15:48a yard instead of the clock and trying to be a little bit more aggressive.
15:52So running on third and one there was doing that again.
15:55So that wasn't a great, I thought sequence from van Pelt, even though he started the
16:00game.
16:01Well, he did do the design quarterback run game.
16:02We finally, which I liked, did you put the you know, the backwards screen pass lateral,
16:08which was an all around disaster that led to, you know, seven points for Buffalo.
16:14But did you put that on van Pelt or were you more execution and with the players and you
16:19know, trade Jacobs, obviously missing the cup block or Mondra dropping the ball, where'd
16:23you kind of put blame on that one?
16:25I know I'm probably in the minority on this.
16:29I put that more on execution.
16:30If we're going to rank who is at fault there, I would go one to Montre Jacobs.
16:36I mean, that's just a bad attempt at a block.
16:39I, that's brutal.
16:40Um, two, I go remandering Stevenson and I thought this at the time and Gerard Mayo confirmed
16:44it this morning.
16:47Somebody yelling about why would you call a back your words pass in that situation?
16:51That's not what the call is.
16:52He's supposed to run a flat route.
16:54He's supposed to be, even if not slightly ahead of the quarterback, I think he sensed
16:58the defender coming and cheated his route back to try to avoid the contact.
17:05That's what that felt like to me.
17:07So he runs a bad route and also rule of thumb.
17:10As I've said on the interceptions the last few weeks, ball hits in both hands, catch
17:14it plain and simple.
17:16Catch it.
17:17He had a second to catch that before the defender got there.
17:19Um, third, I'd honestly go drink may ahead of van Pelt, like recognize the situation,
17:25recognize the back is behind you, throw that thing away, spike it, look for somebody else.
17:30Something that they don't throw that ball backwards in that situation, the van Pelt.
17:34I mean, look, if they clearly didn't have the personnel to execute that, like keep in
17:38mind that's after Stevenson, that was after Stevenson's fumble, right?
17:41That that happened.
17:42Yeah.
17:43I mean, that was my thing.
17:44I get the execution was horrible, but you are asking your right tackle.
17:48Who's been struggling.
17:49He was the worst lineman yesterday against Vaughn Miller and remanded Stevenson who just
17:53fumbled.
17:54So maybe not at the same time.
17:55Like that's, that's a very simple play.
17:58Yeah.
17:59If you can't run that, there's not much he can run, you know?
18:03So I, I understand the philosophy behind it because the bills are getting very aggressive
18:07upfront at that point.
18:08They were not, you know, respecting the run or anything like that.
18:12And I think the plan was, or the philosophy behind that call, which I actually don't mind
18:16is we're going to catch them coming off field, throw something quick behind the catch them
18:20coming up field, throw something quick behind the rushers.
18:22And then we're going to have room to run with blocks up front.
18:24Like I get that call a design, like a true design screen then.
18:29And I think that was supposed to essentially be a quick screen, but I put more on the players.
18:34Like if you can't execute a simple cut block at this level, 16 weeks into the season, I,
18:42like here we are.
18:43Right.
18:44And like, is it on the coach for understanding the player?
18:46Can't do that.
18:47I guess.
18:48I think that's a fair baseline to expect from Alex van Pelt, even with this roster, if we're
18:51being honest.
18:52Yep.
18:53Uh, were those, I know I'm in the minority on that.
18:56That's whatever, but no, I get it.
18:59Like you are, it should be a simple enough play that your guys can execute.
19:05But there is also the part where, okay.
19:06Maybe knowing your personnel that remandar just fumbled trade Jacobs has been having
19:10a really tough time, uh, against a veteran experience, Von Miller, maybe don't put the
19:15game in the hands of those two guys, especially backed up on your goal line there.
19:20So that, that, that would be like kind of the counter argument against, uh, van Pelt
19:24there.
19:25But were those kind of your four, you said you had four game management where those,
19:28the four of them.
19:29Those were the four.
19:30It was the, the, the early, uh, no challenge punt, the, uh, timeout being unable to get
19:37the play in fake punt, still punt the, uh, the fourth quarter punt and then the red zone.
19:44Those were the four.
19:45All right.
19:46So I don't know if you were Robert Kraft, was that a competitive enough game to make
19:52you feel more confident in Gerard Mayo coming back?
19:55Cause we, again, you mentioned the rapid port, uh, report Sunday morning.
19:59That was kind of what we've been saying is, you know, unless it goes really off the tracks
20:04here these last three weeks that Gerard Mayo is expected to be back as head coach.
20:08So was that, uh, was that second half, which, you know, we can talk about a little bit more
20:12here with Drake may like, was that off the tracks enough that you would have any pause
20:18about bringing Gerard Mayo back?
20:19I mean, considering it sounds like they already wanted to bring him back.
20:22I certainly think it's enough to validate your prior belief.
20:25I, I don't know that it's a game that if the plan was for him to be out outright saves
20:30him.
20:31But I certainly think it's enough to look at it and say, well, we want to bring this
20:34guy back and yeah, that's enough to prove that we're right in that belief.
20:38Yeah.
20:39I think you could look at it and say, you know, they went to play the MVP on the road
20:44and they were competitive.
20:45They had a lead in that game.
20:46You saw finally a good defensive game plan.
20:49Like they could look at it through, through that lens, uh, and keep their prior thoughts
20:54going into the game.
20:56But, uh, anything else on Gerard Mayo or that coaching staff from yesterday that stood out
21:00to you?
21:01Um, just big picture.
21:02Again, you got to get the plays in.
21:03That was concerning.
21:04You got to get the plays in that it was Mike McDaniel esque at times where I think there
21:10were seven or eight instances where, and sometimes they got the snap off, but it came close.
21:15That's the, that's the kind of stuff that'll get you fired.
21:18I mean, that's basic stuff called the freaking plight.
21:22That's day one stuff in week 16 to be having trouble with that.
21:25That was kind of, and I get it's tough environment.
21:27It's loud there that can't carry over.
21:29Like that can't happen once next week that can't carry over.
21:31You've got to get that cleaned up now because that, that, that's the kind of stuff that'll
21:35get you fired.
21:36That's kind of stuff that should get you fired more so than all right.
21:39You have a bad roster and you're struggling to put up points even though you're like,
21:43you know, executing the best you can execute.
21:45That's one thing I don't any, you know, you get the play calling that's independent of
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21:52Yeah.
21:53Especially at home the next two weeks.
21:54Like that should not be a problem at all.
21:56You would hope.
21:57And it costs them as you saw, you know, a couple of fourth and ones, third and ones
22:00going, uh, moving back a few yards there.
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23:34But um, next time, speaking of that, it was a good start, uh, for Drake may outdo all
23:40Josh Allen in the first half.
23:41He led those two touchdown drives with the touchdown, the booty capping off the first
23:45one.
23:46He ended up overcoming a couple of penalties and negative plays, you know, on third and
23:50lawn second and lawns to get them, uh, down in the goal line and then Ramon Dre powered
23:54it through.
23:55Uh, but then the second half you saw some of those turnover issues, the fumble we talked
24:00about the backwards pass, and then the interception in the end zone where I know there was some
24:05contact between Kendrick Bourne and Austin Hooper, but it wasn't a great ball by Drake
24:09may.
24:10He had some pressure in his face.
24:11It looked like he kind of under threw it.
24:12So another game, uh, with an interception, but overall, what did you kind of think of
24:18Drake may in his first matchup there against Josh Allen?
24:21Uh, you know, there, there were, there were highs and lows.
24:24It was kind of one of those games.
24:25Again, obviously the third occasion on booty is great to throw over the middle of the case
24:28on booty with the Antonio Gibson blitz pickup was good on the interception.
24:33I know some people point, it probably should have been a penalty on the defensive back
24:37that hit Kendrick Bourne, but that didn't impact the play.
24:42Uh, I, I don't know if Austin Hooper rounded out his route too wide or Drake may under
24:46threw him.
24:47It might've been both.
24:48Uh, he also stared him down.
24:50Like I, Drake may is not totally at fault for that interception, but it's, it's not
24:54a good play.
24:55He also dropped the ball in the red zone on that nine play saga.
24:58So the, the ball security dipped off a bit against the better defense, even with the
25:03backups in a tough environment.
25:05The big thing to me, speaking to the environment, it's just that they, like he went into that
25:11environment.
25:13It didn't seem phased.
25:16So that is encouraging for the big picture.
25:19And when the operation improves around him, he showed you, he can go in there and make
25:23plays.
25:24So that was encouraging.
25:26I think it was a step back performance wise from what we've seen in the last couple of
25:30games.
25:31Uh, but again, that like the gross, not going to be linear.
25:34He's still on the upwards trajectory.
25:35Let's see what he does against a very good chargers defense next week.
25:38Um, but overall, I, I, I think it's a good performance in the big picture.
25:42Yeah.
25:43He had, he did have some misses to like, he dirted that one, the booty over the middle.
25:47And now he comes back and the one you mentioned where he's, you know, Gibson picks up the
25:52guy and he's running to his right and he throws it back left, which was just a ridiculous
25:56throw.
25:57But, um, yeah, you know, handling the environment, just marching right down the field to start
26:01the game.
26:02I thought it was encouraging.
26:03The cold didn't seem to bother him and that's something that, you know, is going to be prevalent
26:07here in new England.
26:09You know, having to go to Buffalo.
26:10So he wasn't, it didn't look like Mack Jones and that scuba suit.
26:13He just rocked the long sleeves and seemed to handle the cold pretty fine.
26:16Although he did drop that, that one ball, but, um, yeah, he looked cold.
26:20I don't know that the cold didn't bother him.
26:22It didn't impact him.
26:24He did look cold, but it did.
26:26I wonder if he goes to the scuba suit eventually.
26:29The first play he, they, they run a screen to Mondra and it gets blown up and he dirts
26:34it.
26:35And then his hands like immediately tuck into his hand warmer and I was like, Oh, he looks
26:39cold that way.
26:40I don't know how this is going to go.
26:41And now like he handled it well.
26:43So maybe, you know, that was, he said that was the first time he wore long sleeves.
26:47So maybe he adjusts going forward or something, but he didn't seem to really impact the performance
26:52too much.
26:53Did you like the fact that they ran these design quarterback runs in the zone reads
26:58and the quarterback sneaks after, you know, that was popular discussion point this last
27:03week.
27:05We talked about that a lot.
27:06Do you feel like the, they got maybe bullied into that one a little bit, or do you think
27:10they kind of approached this as a big game and they said they'll break these things out
27:14in big games.
27:15And, and so we just kind of saw them run Drake may cause you know, they wanted to win and
27:18they wanted to be competitive in that.
27:21I think it's probably a little bit of both.
27:23I don't really care why they did it.
27:24They did it.
27:25I'm happy that they did it.
27:26And, and I thought it was a good, they picked their spots.
27:29They didn't overdo it either.
27:30We'll see how that grows.
27:31I think, I guess the chargers is the charters game will answer that question.
27:35Cause if they keep doing it, then maybe that, you know, then I think they actually believe
27:40it's the best thing to do.
27:41If they stop, it feels more like the bills game was, all right, we did it.
27:43You can shut up about it now.
27:45So we'll see next week, but no, I'm glad that, that we kind of finally got to see what that
27:49looks like.
27:50Even if the first one was called back on a whole, because it wouldn't be the 2024 Patriots
27:55if it didn't frankly.
27:57Yeah.
27:58Yeah.
27:59You can see how it works.
28:00I mean, he should have scored on the first one, but he bounced it to the outside and
28:03then he gets the hold and then they convert a fourth at one where he picks up 13 yards.
28:07So you see the benefits of it, hopefully, you know, that that's something that really
28:12next year they, they really start making part of this offense.
28:15And again, those key spots down by the goal line, fourth and one, we don't have to do
28:19it 10, 15 times a game, but just those key spots to help the offense.
28:25But on the topic of ball security, Rondre Stevenson lost his seventh fumble.
28:30They put him back in the game, which was kind of surprising because he, he fumbled against
28:35the Cardinals, but they recovered it.
28:37So it wasn't a loss, but you could kind of see this brewing again, and then he loses
28:41one.
28:42Now, Antonio Gibson also lost the fumble, but he managed to recover it.
28:46What are you doing with this running back room, you know, next week in LA, are you sitting
28:52Rondre down or do they kind of need him out there?
28:55How are you viewing that?
28:57I'm uh, I, I, I'm still playing Rondre Stevenson.
29:02I'm not sitting him outright, but you know, the other thing is like Antonio Gibson's been
29:05a better player over last month.
29:08So, and I know he fumbled yesterday, but that doesn't help Stevenson's case either.
29:11I, Stevenson's going to be here next year because of his contract.
29:14You want to allow him to get right.
29:15But if you want to try to steal one of these last two games, Gibson's your better option.
29:20Again, I'm not sitting Rondre Stevenson out, right?
29:22Because you can't ask Gibson to play a hundred percent of snaps.
29:25You can't ask any running back to do that in the modern NFL.
29:28And they don't have a ton of depth, especially if Michael Hastie's hurt.
29:30So I think Gibson is the spellback makes sense.
29:32And it, it allows him to kind of work on what he needs to work on.
29:36But Antonio Gibson should be RB one for the final two weeks of the season.
29:39He should be getting the majority of the work.
29:42And they, they signed Terrell Jennings.
29:44So I don't know if they have another, like if they want one of these more physical bruiser
29:48backs to take carries away from Mondra.
29:50Like they could go to Terrell Jennings.
29:52Cause that's more of that, uh, that mold and that play style.
29:55But yeah, Gibson, he, he's still been really good.
29:58You know, you can see the explosiveness with the ball and then the past pro
30:01opened up a few plays yesterday for Drake may and past pro.
30:04So I wouldn't be opposed to just kind of sit in Mondra down.
30:07Cause seven fumbles is absurd.
30:10Is that, is that Steven Ridley level?
30:12What was Steven Ridley's?
30:14So I meant to look this up today.
30:15I've seen people making the Steven Ridley cut now Ridley.
30:17Um, sorry, Stevenson's a better runner than Ridley else.
30:20Like he's a better running back Stevenson fumble.
30:23He never fumbled more than four times in a season.
30:27Wow.
30:28And that's, it was as a, as a rookie one, four, four, then zero and six games.
30:34That was his last year with the Patriots.
30:36And then zero and eight games, zero and one game, zero and two games, two and 10
30:41games, but he also had the games is you never had more than, uh, 36 carries in
30:48a season after he left the Patriots.
30:49So I guess that doesn't really count, but yeah, with the Patriots, he had
30:53649 carries in nine fumbles and look this up.
30:58We think we're Mondra is more or less than 649 carries with
31:00Patriots, same number of years.
31:02649.
31:04Yeah.
31:05I'll go more.
31:06They ran him into the ER.
31:08Yeah, it's more, it's a little more 704.
31:11But he has, yeah, he now has 14 fumbles and 704 carries.
31:1814.
31:19The ratio is hang on.
31:2214 fumbles and 709 carries.
31:25Oh, I did that backwards.
31:27709 carries and 14 fumbles.
31:31Math on the air, right?
31:32That's right.
31:33So Stevenson is averaging a fumble once every 50 carries Ridley nine over
31:41six 49 over nine he's fumbling almost more than 20 carries.
31:49Stevenson is 50, 50 carries per fumble.
31:51Ridley was 72 per fumble.
31:53Wow.
31:54And Steven Ridley was like exiled when he was here by the fans.
31:59So this, this is worse.
32:00So, but this year, I mean, this year, excuse the number he had.
32:04So he has as many fumbles now with this one, he had seven in
32:07his first three years total, and now he has seven this season.
32:12So, yeah, Gerard Mayo didn't rule out maybe a change there next week.
32:16So we'll keep an eye on that and see what happens.
32:19I don't, I wouldn't expect him to be outright sat though, because
32:22they put him back in that game.
32:23Definitely.
32:24Would you put them back in?
32:26No.
32:27Yeah, I wouldn't.
32:28I would just want to rolled with Gibson there for the rest of them.
32:31I wouldn't have last week.
32:32I would still play him next week in a limited role, but I would not have put
32:34him back in that game against the bills.
32:35Yeah, I think they put him back in after the, uh, the drop backwards pass too.
32:40I certainly wouldn't have put him back in after that.
32:43It was, I remember he came back in and he caught like a little
32:47screen, um, for like 13 yards.
32:50Yeah.
32:50He fumbled the fumble was their first possession of the second half.
32:54And then Drake had the interception where he caught the 13 yard screen, the
32:59play before, and then they came back out and he had a run and then the
33:03fumble on the backwards pass.
33:05So yeah, he was back at, so he was back on the field for three plays after the
33:11fumble and they had the backwards pass go in there, um, with Stevenson.
33:16So we'll see what happens there.
33:17Another guy whose workload was decreased, uh, was Jalen Polk.
33:21He was averaging 24 snaps.
33:24The last five games played three snaps yesterday.
33:27Didn't really open the door for Jayvon Baker to play anymore.
33:30He played eight snaps in his first game back, uh, from the concussion.
33:35Are we just done with these guys for this year?
33:37Do you think as is, is this it for this year?
33:41It certainly seems like it.
33:45Uh, the, the caveat is like if somebody gets hurt, I think it's really
33:48interesting that Polk played less than Baker.
33:52So is Baker now the fourth receiver is Baker.
33:54Now the next man up, if somebody gets hurt or something, you know, in one
33:57of these last two games is Baker actually now closer to playing down than Polk
34:00is, but yeah, I think they're pretty much done for these guys this year.
34:03Polk will be back on the team next year because he's a second round pick and
34:06they're just not going to cut bait with them, Baker, I don't know.
34:09We might just be done with him, done with him.
34:11That may go down as a wasted pick, which would be a shame.
34:13Cause again, they had two fourth round picks back to back.
34:16They should have used one of those to move up in the draft, either
34:19back into the first round or up from the third, when that run on tackle
34:22started to get a real left tackle.
34:23But yeah, it feels like these guys, you're just, you're just
34:26going to have to write them off.
34:27Did you sell the graphic?
34:28They, they put up last night during Sunday night football of
34:31the three Washington receivers.
34:34I didn't see the graphic, but I know Jalen McMillan has
34:37been playing very well.
34:38He had like as slow of a start as Jalen Polk.
34:42I think they're like the first 10, 11 games.
34:43He was doing like nothing in Tampa.
34:45And it was because people talk about, well, look at Michael Pennix dead.
34:48He at least had like Chris Godwin ahead of him, right?
34:51Like, Oh yeah, sure.
34:53But no, he's really gotten it going now.
34:56He's turned the corner and he's starting to make plays.
34:58I think he has touchdowns in like his last three or four games.
35:01So he's right.
35:02He's been, uh, he's been pretty good.
35:04Polk, definitely the worst of that kind of Washington trio.
35:07I don't, I don't know.
35:08You know, you see boss is obviously an easy word to throw out there.
35:12He will be back next year.
35:14I'm not ready to like completely write them off because I do
35:17think most of it, or pretty much all of it is mental, right?
35:21Like we, this guy was supposed to be like a high floor player.
35:25And we saw it during training camp.
35:27I know it's different training camp, the games that he can play, but
35:29I do think a lot of it is mental.
35:31So maybe I don't want to go in the next year having to count on him.
35:34Like that's poor roster management.
35:37If you're counting on Jalen Polk, all of a sudden resurging next year.
35:41But I don't want to completely throw the bust label on him yet.
35:45Cause I do think a lot of it is mental, but definitely good.
35:48He would be an outlier.
35:49As we've said a lot, if he comes back to have any sort of NFL success,
35:55like that's how rookie wide receivers go with it.
35:57The first year is really indicative on that stuff, but it does seem to him.
36:01Like this is all pretty much mental.
36:04It's just tough because when you look at the track record for young
36:09receivers and putting up the kind of production, lack of production he has,
36:12it's just not that many guys that turned it around from a start like this.
36:16Yep.
36:17Uh, I will give credit to Keisha on booty.
36:19It was a good bounce back game from him.
36:21I was ready to just kind of put him on the bench and he responded with a
36:24really, uh, pretty solid game there.
36:26So credit to Keisha on booty, um, tight end, just usual performance
36:31from Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper.
36:32Austin Hooper, Gerard Mayo said should be okay after that shot to the head.
36:35So, um, hopefully no reoccurring symptoms or anything as the, as the
36:41week progresses there for Austin Hooper.
36:43But, uh, offensive line, we mentioned trade Jacobs.
36:47Are you ready for Caden Wallace?
36:49If he is healthy and ready to go.
36:51Oh yeah.
36:52I mean, how are you not at this point?
36:54And we'll see.
36:56It's just a matter of him being healthy.
36:57It'd be great to get a look at him this year, but kind of running out of time.
37:00Definitely.
37:01All right.
37:01Anything else on that?
37:02Uh, O-line or offense in general yesterday?
37:06Uh, I mean, I, I just like, yeah, we talked about Gibson enough.
37:09I just, I think he's been really good.
37:10Yep.
37:11All right.
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38:40On the defense.
38:41We mentioned it was a good plan from the Marcus Covington and Gerard Mayo.
38:45A lot of man coverage, you know, Buffalo, they don't have
38:48their stuff on digs anymore.
38:49They have Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman and Mac Holland.
38:53So man, these guys up Amari Cooper.
38:56And I thought the Patriots corners played spectacular Christian
39:00Gonzalez, his usual self.
39:03Just, uh, you know, old time game for Jonathan Jones looked like himself,
39:08you know, locking down Khalil Shakir, Alex Austin, even got his hand, uh,
39:11on a pass or two there, Martha Mapu even was making plays.
39:15So what'd you think of that Patriots secondary and their performance
39:19under that game plan yesterday?
39:21Mainly Jonathan Jones.
39:22I mean, he's the reason it was able to go right.
39:24They wanted no part of Christian Gonzalez.
39:27Alan barely looks Gonzalez's way.
39:29I think that was like a concerted effort from the bills that we're
39:32just not going to throw near this guy.
39:33One target and it came in the fourth quarter.
39:36So, and it was kind of a, they sort of scheme the guy open.
39:39It wasn't, you know, they, they had.
39:41They, they ran sort of a pickish play, I guess.
39:44Um, but the only way that works, other guys have to step up and, and
39:49Jonathan Jones was excellent.
39:50I thought Alex Austin was good too.
39:52Um, but you know, if they can get that kind of performance with Jonathan
39:54Jones, Jonathan Jones, a free agent at the end of the year is one of the few
39:56guys last year they did not resign.
39:58And he's obviously had a rough year, but you know, a couple more games like
40:01that, and you're gonna have to take a longer look at him going into the off
40:03season.
40:04Yeah, definitely.
40:05So good game from there, especially, you know, with Marcus Jones out, that
40:08was, you figured that would have been the Marcus Jones assignment, Khalil
40:11Shakir.
40:12So good to see Jonathan Jones, uh, step in there.
40:15Uh, Marta Mapu also stepped in a healthy scratch the last two weeks.
40:19We saw Jabril peppers pop up on the injury report Friday.
40:22So he was inactive Marta Mapu back in the lineup.
40:25He had the interception, which shouldn't have ran out, but he had the
40:29interception and Josh Allen threw it right to him.
40:31I still give him a down for the game because Josh Allen threw that one right
40:35to him.
40:35He had another should have been interception.
40:37He dropped and yeah, he, I don't know what the hell he's doing running that
40:40out.
40:40That, that was never a good idea.
40:42That was questionable.
40:43He did the coverage play.
40:46I thought the coverage was better for him kind of on the backend that the play,
40:51the other one, he should have had the interception, but it was still, I
40:53thought a good play to drive on the ball and break it up.
40:56He also had a couple of pressures as a pass rusher.
40:58So I thought it was a net positive game for him that it still was a bad
41:03decision to run that ball out.
41:05You get wanting to make a play, but, and if you want to make a play, like just
41:09go like the hesitancy there really cost them of going to make a play and then
41:14pull them back up and then you get tackled at the one yard line.
41:17And there's a guy right there too.
41:18It's not like there's nobody near them and somebody on the bills mean unbelievable
41:22play to get to them and tackle them when they did like there's multiple
41:25offensive players right around them.
41:26Yeah.
41:27So we'll, we'll see how they want to keep using him over the last two weeks.
41:32If peppers is available or not, we'll see more, uh, maybe a Martha Mapu, uh,
41:37up front, the run defense, just Gerard Mayo finally admitted it was a problem
41:41this morning and yesterday, I think.
41:43So it wasn't good again, 172 total yards over six yards to carry.
41:48Even if you take out the 46 yard run, they were still right around
41:51five yards, uh, per carriers.
41:53Gerard Mayo probably wanted to tell us, but he didn't.
41:55So the run defense, still an issue, more of the same stuff to just
41:59second level getting washed out.
42:01Just, it's not good enough from that, that run defense.
42:05And you saw Buffalo, they should have done it more, but they, they
42:08took advantage of it when they did.
42:10And miss tackles, Kyle Duggar, another rough game.
42:13There was one play he made where he stepped up.
42:14They threw it to, I think it was Kincaid in the flyers,
42:16Kincaid or Knox in the flat.
42:18And came down here and I had stuck them.
42:21And I was like, where there's Kyle Duggar.
42:23I haven't seen that guy in weeks.
42:24I know that guy, right?
42:26Where's that guy been?
42:27And then he whiffs on the big, big James cook Ron.
42:30And yeah, the run defense just is still not what it needs to be.
42:34It's not even close.
42:35Yep.
42:36Yeah.
42:37And Buffalo, they gave their backs for carries in the first half,
42:41which I thought was absurd.
42:43The bills are a poorly coached football team.
42:46Yeah.
42:46And yesterday should make that blatantly clear.
42:49And that's why we need to calm down talking about this team as a, you know,
42:52are they a Superbowl contender?
42:53Sure.
42:54The favorite in the AFC, they can't figure it out.
42:58I came on here Thursday, Brian, do your Wednesday.
43:00You remember we had this conversation about if the bills are smart, they'll
43:03just run, run, run the ball, get out of there without incident.
43:05If they're smart.
43:06And then I said, but that's probably giving Sean McDermott too much credit.
43:09Instead of two scores with the clock running, he goes and gets
43:12his quarterback's hand broken.
43:14And with, well, he already had one broken hand.
43:17Now the other one's messed up.
43:18We're probably not allowed to talk about that because it
43:20hurts Joshie Poo's MVP candidacy.
43:22But what a, what a dumb
43:25up to all that with a broken hand.
43:26That probably helps.
43:27Oh, he's doing nobody who gets shut down by this Patriots defense
43:33like that should be an MVP.
43:35And that includes Joe burrow, who probably should be the MVP,
43:38but he's not a losing team.
43:39Um, nobody gets shut down by his Patriots defense like that as the
43:42most valuable player in the league.
43:44I think that's a fair take.
43:45Hey, give it a little more, give it a Barkley.
43:49I just, it didn't look like an MVP.
43:53Lamar had a bad game against the Raiders earlier in this year.
43:56If you want to go out, but it's not the Patriots.
43:59I don't have to watch the Raiders every week.
44:00I don't know what their whole deal is.
44:04That's true.
44:04Mack Jones.
44:05All right.
44:06So Max, so according to my logic, Mack Jones can't be MVP.
44:09So I feel like my logic's pretty good.
44:11There you go.
44:11Mack Jones moving the Patriots up in the draft order.
44:14Shout out him, but Chad Ryland, Chad Ryland, everyone, all the
44:18former guys are, are helping the case.
44:20But Jack Jones make a play yesterday.
44:23No, I think he got toasted by Brian Thomas.
44:26So almost all the four, almost all the former guys.
44:28Actually, if I'm thinking of it, right.
44:32I saw just the clip on Twitter.
44:33He might've got toasted, but then Mack Jones sailed the pass out of balance.
44:38So Mack Jones helping the, that was Patriots practice last year.
44:43Every day.
44:45Um, last thing I just had back on the defense, they, they did that kind
44:51of mush, rushy thing where they wanted to just contain Josh Allen.
44:55Jeremiah farms, five pressures, uh, in the sack, just shout out him for, for
44:59being kind of their one lone source of pressure, I know they're not pitting
45:03their ears back all the time, all game with that sort of strategy.
45:07But, uh, I thought farms was good yesterday.
45:09So anything else you have on the defense side of the ball there,
45:13or we can wrap this up.
45:15Is Christian Ellis, a top 10 player on this team, just in
45:18terms of like what the tape shows.
45:20Obviously there's guys who are more talented in theory, more talented on paper,
45:24but when you look at what guys have done this year in terms of doing their job.
45:30Christian Ellis, one of the best 10 players on the team.
45:31Like, I don't know that he's out there making plays, but in a season, that's
45:36been about guys being in the wrong spot and screwing up fundamentals.
45:41He just always seems to be where he needs to be and makes the
45:43plays that are there to be made.
45:44He had a couple of good tackles in space yesterday.
45:46I think the perfect example of this, he had a pass breakup that
45:49hit off the back of his helmet.
45:50So like, did he really do anything?
45:52No, but he was in the right place at the right time.
45:54He was there in coverage.
45:56I don't know that he's the answer that they need at linebacker next
45:58to Bentley, but as a depth linebacker, special teams player, he's a
46:02restricted for agents, so he'll probably be back, but that's a guy who should be
46:05back.
46:05He's sneaky been one of their best players this year.
46:09Yeah.
46:11Yeah.
46:11He's probably right in that, you know, fringe, like seven to 10 range.
46:17And look, that says more about the roster than it does about him.
46:21I was going to say, there's not much competition, but like
46:23he's been a better player this year.
46:24Objectively Christian Ellis or Kyle Duggar.
46:27Probably Christian Ellis.
46:28Right.
46:29Who's been a better player this year.
46:30Christian Ellis or Keon white.
46:33Ooh, that one would be tough.
46:35Ramond, Eric Christian Ellis or Ramond Ray Stevenson.
46:39Christian Ellis.
46:40Right.
46:40So it's like, he's kind of just shown up and done his job.
46:44And again, this says more about the team than it does him, because that's
46:47saying a lot for this team.
46:49You need reliability.
46:50Like this team needs guys who are reliable and Ellis isn't a high tier
46:54playmaker and those guys are have to, are going to have to come externally,
46:57obviously, but Ellis should stick around because he gives them a guy that you
47:02can kind of set your watch to, and he can't really say that about most
47:05of the guys on the roster.
47:07If he's like a sub linebacker that comes in on passing downs next year, like
47:11that'd be a perfect role for him and good for him.
47:13Like this is a guy they claimed last year as a pure special teamer.
47:17And he taken the most of his opportunities that are available to him.
47:21So good for Christian Ellis.
47:23Uh, seems like he's kind of worked his way into what you hope is a niche
47:28role, not a three down linebacker, but it seems like he could be sticking around
47:32here.
47:32So, uh, wrap up just special teams, not too much, just the fake punt, which
47:37we talked about, uh, big return by Antonio Gibson, not much action from Joey
47:42sly, no field goal attempts, um, really nothing there unless you have anything.
47:47Right.
47:48I would just say on the fake punt, like I thought, and I know we can't
47:51talk about this earlier.
47:52I thought the bills reacted really well to that.
47:54I like didn't react well to that.
47:57Whoever was announcing the game.
47:59One of the worst fake punt call was it?
48:02I, any, yeah, it was Eagle and Charles Davis.
48:04You wouldn't even have known they were running a fake punch and the
48:07cameraman, the cameraman did not react to it well either.
48:10Neither honestly did the Patriots punt team when they didn't get off the field
48:13after they got the first down, but the bills reacted really well.
48:17And the Patriots still got it.
48:18That was just high level execution, which is not something we've been able
48:21to say about this team a lot this year.
48:22Yeah.
48:23Yep.
48:23Shout out Del Pettis making the play.
48:25He's been kind of an underrated rookie at times.
48:27So nice to see him get rewarded from that personal protector spot to, uh, get
48:33the, uh, first down that actually was pretty solid onside kick that's back to
48:38good onside kicks that they haven't been able to recover as much as the college
48:42playoff sucks.
48:43Like there were a bunch of good onside kicks there.
48:46There were a couple of good onside kicks in the one o'clock window.
48:48This was a very strong weekend for onside kicks, bad weekend for
48:53punting.
48:55What a weekend onside kicks, baby.
48:58It was though.
48:59And what you're right now that, now that I'm thinking about it, there
49:02were a lot of good onside kicks.
49:03Are people starting to figure out the onside kicks?
49:05Maybe.
49:06Who knows?
49:07Maybe because it's cold, the ball's harder.
49:09It takes more unpredictable bounces.
49:11Um, someone's got to come along and just be like insane at onside kicks, like
49:16get up, someone's just got to master it.
49:18So it bounces right up.
49:21Every time somebody does that.
49:22Cause it's not, you can't master the bounce.
49:24Cause football's dope.
49:26It's, it's more about the way you kick it.
49:27Like, who is it?
49:28Who had like the behind the leg heel kick.
49:31Every time somebody figures out a way to make it somewhat reliable, they
49:34outlaw, whatever that guy's doing.
49:38Remember that teams would, teams would try like the two kickers and keep you
49:40off guard on which way they were going.
49:43Things like that.
49:45Yep.
49:45So who knows?
49:46Maybe they'll actually recover one between the onside kicks and the fumble
49:49lock, just none of it is there for the Patriots and they did not get not
49:53much puck luck for the, uh, for the Patriots good teams make their luck.
49:57So it makes sense, but we will wrap it up there again.
50:02Uh, 24, 21 loss to the Buffalo bills, Patriots three in 12 now on the year,
50:08but the bright side, as we kind of mentioned, moving up in the draft order,
50:12they now sit at number two as the Raiders, uh, beat Matt Jones and slid down.
50:17So two weeks left three and 12, but currently holding the
50:22number two pick in the draft.
50:24So they will now turn their attention to the Los Angeles chargers again on Saturday.
50:29Uh, we will be back on Thursday, regular schedule, probably maybe we'll, we'll
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50:59Have a wonderful holidays and we will see you guys on Thursday.
51:04Bye.