Un sketch realizado por algunos integrantes de Olga ha generado un intenso debate en redes sociales debido a su representación del pesebre, considerada ofensiva por algunos. La participación de Toto Kirzner, hijo de Adrián Suar y Araceli González, ha aumentado la visibilidad del incidente. Aunque el equipo defiende el acto como una expresión artística, las críticas se centran en la falta de originalidad y sensibilidad hacia temas religiosos.
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00:00a human being that they put together in Olga and well, a scandal was put together, guys, of colossal dimensions,
00:09as I like that word, well, who is one of my colleagues is Luis Bremmer, the one who has the information, Luis,
00:14and I would like to do it like the other day, before you went to the screen, over there, with the videos.
00:20Don't make me a Jesus child, please.
00:22You didn't see me, I could be a good Jesus child, but as I respect the sacred and I don't take it as a joke,
00:28I would not do it like Ambrosino and the people of Olga, I say because it is a parody that they did, it is not something new, it is something real.
00:35But how many times have we seen the parody of the Pesebre?
00:39Several times, and it is not the first time I see it, it is not current, on Spanish television it generated a scandal three years ago,
00:44Cha Cha Cha did it at some point, Luzu and Olga kind of get in sync to see who makes this sketch in an attempt that is creative,
00:52they are trying to get attention, it is a promotional stimulus, but it generated a debate, and we must say it too,
00:58a spittle of xenophobia on social networks, regarding those who act, which does not make sense, but which is dangerous.
01:05Let's see the images and then we will debate Olga's Pesebreviviente, go ahead.
01:12Nausea, dizziness, and a delay of nine months, but without having committed the sin of love, he also made an appointment in the Pesebre.
01:24And then, from that moment, everyone was happy.
01:54Well, there it is, we saw the images then, it can be understood that it is a kind of parody, with a wink of humor, I don't know.
02:02The issue is from what place, I don't want to put myself, let's say, in raising examples, but at the time, so that you can see how sensitive some issues are,
02:10María José Gavín did, for Teatro por la Identidad, a humorous play about the missing, what did he do?
02:16He spoke with grandmothers and mothers of Plaza de Mayo, he raised the concept, the dramatic structure, and that was approved.
02:23What do I mean? That the sacred does not imply not to have humor, it implies not to make fun of some things, such as the child Jesus, the Virgin Mary, José.
02:32Yes, Catholic symbols par excellence.
02:36This aroused a lot, we have several tweets from well-known people, communicators who manifested themselves.
02:42If you want, we put them, or let Nati say, which are opinions about the rebound in networks that followed all weekend.
02:49Of course, there are people who were very offended, who feel very offended.
02:53Yes, people who said that, well, they felt very hurt.
02:57Now, it seems to me that all this was a mess, because you can represent it well, but this is not humorous at all.
03:03It didn't amuse me, people didn't find it funny.
03:05But don't point to you, Nacho, point to a younger audience that maybe does have fun.
03:08It's not my case, I don't consume these things, and in general they don't amuse me.
03:12But yes, I live with someone who is 20 years old, 19, who likes to see this and who has fun with the reunion.
03:18Yes, they live there with less solemnity.
03:21Yes, they don't give them religious content.
03:24Wait, let's see what some personalities said on social networks.
03:28First, Tartu, our friend who says that no one sees the streamers, he gives you the guidelines they had to make a sketch for and for idiots, so that they find out that they are somewhere on the web.
03:41Tartu is always very philosophical about streamers.
03:44I think they can be formats that can coexist.
03:46The issue is the content.
03:48We also have another image of another of the messages.
03:51Marcela Feudal gave a very interesting message to reflect on.
03:55Because if something that irritates you is going to lead you to duplicate violence, you can't get out of it.
04:00I also thought about something, Karina.
04:02What tolerance do you have for the denotative humor of Catholicism?
04:06And what would happen if for other religions I opened a mockery of some of their sacred symbols?
04:12Well, only Jews can do Jewish humor.
04:15An example of this is Roberto Moldavsky, who does it wonderfully well, but he has the ceiling.
04:20Totally.
04:22There are some issues with which it is preferable not to mock.
04:27There are religions that are really tremendously susceptible and that take anything for bad.
04:35And well, that's how it is, and it's respectable.
04:37There are issues with which you don't fuck up, this is one of them.
04:41Feudal is wonderful because it synthesizes something very complex.
04:44It says,
05:15Without the need for mockery of what for that other believer would be a heresy.
05:21Attentive to that. Unnecessary.
05:23I think it's clear, descriptive.
05:26Because it's not about the Catholic cult in function of the Vatican.
05:29Because the Pope entered all this mess, they put him in the Pope.
05:32It has to do with how you respect what the other believes.
05:35Sure.
05:36I say, particularly being agnostic, when at some point I have entered a church
05:41and I see a lady of many years praying devotionally.
05:45I can't help but be moved by her belief.
05:48Even if I don't believe in the cult.
05:50You are empathetic with the faith of the other.
05:52And yes, it should be like that.
05:54It's great. Is there any other opinion?
05:56Tomás Dente. Tomás Dente seems to be very angry.
05:59Let's see what Tomás Dente says.
06:01When apologies arrive late, they are worth it.
06:03No one was able to ask for forgiveness yet.
06:05And he says the word sorete.
06:07I tell you.
06:08Very strong.
06:10I was a believer, today I am not.
06:12I was baptized, I took communion, I was in a Catholic school.
06:15Today I decided not to be a believer.
06:17Why did you stop believing?
06:18I'm the same.
06:19Completely.
06:20Why did you stop believing?
06:22Well, I was never very convinced about dogmas.
06:25Let's say, to believe something because you have to believe.
06:27Yes, because you have to believe it.
06:28It's a topic of conversation for a long time.
06:31Now, despite not believing, it seems to me that this is far from being, for me, a lack of respect
06:38for dogmas, for the Catholic religion.
06:40It's a terrible joke.
06:42There is no humor.
06:43And that it was not an improvisation,
06:45not even those who were around believed it.
06:47Because I had to make some parody.
06:49At least you are convinced of what you are doing.
06:51I noticed more discomfort than humor.
06:53And on top of that, they read a script.
06:55That a joke was worse than the other.
06:57The delay of nine months.
06:58It's a lack of respect for humor.
06:59It was a practical job of a high school.
07:01Very bad, I thought.
07:02It's not funny.
07:03It was like a group of friends who got together to laugh at something.
07:06But no, do you see it?
07:09The issue is that the controversy here comes for Toto, right?
07:11The son of Suárez and Aracely González.
07:14There it is.
07:15Wait a second.
07:16Before you develop your idea.
07:17We have a note with Toto and we also have the post of Aracely González, which is very interesting.
07:23Come on, Nacho.
07:24No, it seems to me that it comes from the controversy where they made fun of Pepito Sibrián and his paternity.
07:28I never heard them apologize.
07:30But they did.
07:31They did.
07:33The apologies they asked for happened to me.
07:35And it seems to me that the issue comes from there.
07:37That he is always being controversial with this type of cause.
07:40And now he gets involved in a religious cause that is completely valid.
07:44That people are offended.
07:45Yes.
07:46Well, and they mix everything.
07:47I mean, on social media, right?
07:48You, Nacho.
07:49Because at some point they also thought about how it could be that someone like Toto,
07:52who lived a traumatic experience in his life and told it publicly,
07:56did not have empathy to register the sensitivity of this.
07:59What does one thing have to do with the other?
08:01Of course, it has nothing to do with it.
08:02As I say, it seems to me that the inks are loaded too, beyond the fact that this is wrong,
08:06what they did, because it is not artistic, that is why it is wrong,
08:09not because a religious representation is wrong,
08:11because he is the son of Suar and because he is Toto Kirchner.
08:14And because Pepito Sibrián came, remember?
08:16And he came from there.
08:17Of course.
08:18Just like Toto is justified for being the son of Adrián Suar and Aracely González.
08:21Totally.
08:22Yes, but it takes relevance precisely for that issue.
08:25It is the name they point to, it is the one with the most visibility.
08:28But there you saw that there is someone who thought of the idea,
08:31there was a consensus among the participants of the sketch,
08:35someone who wrote it, someone who directed it, someone who edited it,
08:38and someone who looked at it and said, it's good, let's put it.
08:41So why only point to Toto?
08:44What do I know?
08:45What does Aracely say about it?
08:46Aracely González obviously broke her wings for her son and says,
08:49and then there is a day that one must explain who he is and how he feels.
08:52Many times we shut up in the face of so much madness,
08:55because getting into this mess is a huge wear and tear.
08:58It does not take us anywhere and takes away the focus of life.
09:02I know that there are people who do not have it,
09:04who build with hatred and do not rest at night,
09:07but there are others who try to build instead of destroying.
09:09We must not apologize when we do not commit crimes, lies or injustices.
09:14Attentive, because there we could debate some of these points.
09:17Aracely, we must not apologize when we belong to a herd
09:21that must also respond.
09:23Being a son of is a blessing because being loved is little.
09:27I read you, you read me, I do not know you and others do.
09:30I do not know you and you will be part of the unknown,
09:32sir or madam, who sits to raise the inquisitive finger.
09:36Attentive with that word.
09:37Uff, God, what little mercy when it comes to hitting.
09:41And of course, if you hit, there is no mercy, there is no understanding.
09:44I have read tremendous painful and unloving messages.
09:47You throw shit and you will receive shit, that's for sure.
09:50If we talk about God, whatever religion,
09:52it is always fair.
09:54Dedicate yourself to approach and deliver the best of you,
09:57sir and madam, that I will never know you.
10:00To those I know and are part of this herd,
10:02in parentheses means,
10:04you are in my thoughts, know it.
10:06You follow me, you read me and you play with other people's feelings.
10:10Being visible for evil is not something I choose.
10:13The cycles change, people mutate
10:15and many times against their will to hurt.
10:18Hurt that soon I will dedicate myself to denouncing.
10:21Attentive with this.
10:22Promise denunciation.
10:23I know you.
10:24We know each other and we belong to a very small medium
10:28that we know what each one did.
10:31Attentive.
10:32It sounds like a threat.
10:33Defend the indefensible,
10:35make visible what people build the least
10:37and shit on the young.
10:39Epa.
10:40Sir or madam, you have no mercy.
10:42I know you and we are close.
10:44Know it.
10:45With respect to dirt,
10:47I wanted to put society,
10:49but better is dirt.
10:51The times change, communication changes
10:53and rights too.
10:55Let's stop getting into areas that are not ours
10:57and generating hatred,
10:58shared by people who are only dedicated to that.
11:00Hurt gentlemen and ladies
11:02who communicate.
11:03Let's help through the site to take care,
11:05to pay and protect people.
11:07Something of the whole long message
11:09that he said to do.
11:10Long, yes.
11:11But who is he dedicated to?
11:12Because here he speaks specifically to someone.
11:14It seems to speak to someone.
11:15To a person.
11:16And well, go see in the comments,
11:18maybe he found someone,
11:20he says we know each other, I don't know.
11:22He speaks very punctually.
11:23What happens in the comments too,
11:25and this is fair to say,
11:26there was a lot of anti-Semitism
11:27in the comments against Toto.
11:29I mean, those who got angry for defending religion,
11:31attacked the Jewish religion.
11:33That's terrible.
11:34That's why I tell you,
11:35in the comments it was like,
11:36Jewish son of a bitch,
11:37you can't mess with this.
11:39It's obvious that he was going to generate that.
11:43You are criticizing my religion
11:45and you have your vote.
11:46But it's contradictory if it bothers you
11:47that he's criticizing my religion.
11:49Aracely González speaks
11:51and defends her son as a mother.
11:53She, as a mother,
11:54and as an actress,
11:55as people in the media,
11:56could recommend to her son
11:58not to do this kind of thing.
12:00Sorry, sorry,
12:02but Nacho, do you have any ideas?
12:04If he didn't recommend it,
12:05we don't have any ideas.
12:06Maybe it's the second time he does it.
12:08We have a note with Toto Kirchner.
12:09Let's see what Toto says.
12:10Let's see.
12:12Toto, how are you?
12:13A weekend.
12:14How did you spend it these days?
12:16You were also a bit
12:18in the eye of the net,
12:19of the television,
12:20because of the Pesebre,
12:21they did a sketch here
12:22in Olga's show.
12:23How did you go about it?
12:26Well, as you can, you know?
12:30But these are risks
12:31that one takes in some humorous spaces,
12:34in this case, in the stream,
12:35that one experiences.
12:36And sometimes one knows
12:39that a reaction
12:40can come from the other side.
12:41It goes without saying
12:42that it was never
12:43in a pejorative way.
12:44It was a recycled joke
12:45that has been made
12:46countless times,
12:47satires, parodies,
12:48whatever.
12:49The difference here
12:50is that you may like it,
12:51you may not like it,
12:52you may have found it
12:53horrible or not.
12:54But well,
12:55that's perfect.
12:56And it's logical,
12:57everything I've received,
12:58everything we've received,
12:59for having chosen
13:00to do the sketch.
13:01But it was
13:02in a humorous context,
13:03pure and exclusive
13:04humorous.
13:05And I think
13:06it was humorous,
13:07pure and exclusive.
13:08In fact, the names,
13:09there were no biblical names,
13:10but it was generic.
13:12We tried to explore
13:15that sketch.
13:17And well,
13:18one also knows
13:20that it's pink
13:21and that it has
13:22some consequences,
13:23which is logical.
13:24A reactionary thing
13:25is perfect.
13:26That's what sometimes
13:27generates a debate.
13:28Is it difficult to make humor
13:29now in these times?
13:30No, no, no.
13:31How do you carry it
13:32in your diary?
13:33Because it also happened to you
13:34a few months ago
13:36Yes, yes, yes.
13:37No, well,
13:38but as I told you,
13:39it doesn't surprise me
13:40because always when
13:41one makes humor,
13:42it has a response
13:43from the public
13:44of I didn't like it,
13:45I found it outrageous,
13:46I loved it,
13:47I really liked it,
13:48keep doing it.
13:49Bye.
13:50I loved it,
13:51keep doing it.
13:52I mean,
13:53it doesn't surprise me.
13:54I receive them
13:55because it's totally logical.
13:56It's a bit aggressive
13:57too,
13:58that's what I received.
13:59Beyond that,
14:00I mean,
14:01because they got involved
14:02with religion,
14:03they got involved
14:04Yes, yes,
14:05but I don't want
14:06to get involved
14:07in that world
14:08because it's not worth it.
14:09I'm just saying
14:10that I assume
14:11all the things
14:12that have come
14:13reactionary
14:14to the sketch.
14:15A week ago
14:16your mom visited you
14:17and we wrote you a note
14:18A week ago
14:19Aracely visited you
14:20and we wrote you a note
14:21and we also asked her
14:22how she got that
14:23how she took it
14:24at the time
14:25when Pepito passed by
14:26and she said
14:27that you asked her
14:28to not go out
14:29to talk.
14:30A few minutes ago
14:31she made a statement
14:32for a few hours
14:33to Aracely
14:34and she made a statement
14:35on her social media
14:36I'm learning from you
14:37Yes, she made a statement
14:38on her social media
14:39telling you
14:40that she's proud
14:41to be your mother
14:42Yes, of course
14:43because of course
14:44they're my parents
14:45and it hurts them
14:46when they get
14:47negative comments
14:48about their son.
14:49It's logical
14:50and they have
14:51every right
14:52to say
14:53whatever they want
14:54Yes, mom,
14:55don't get involved
14:56because a week ago
14:57No, no,
14:58because they're
14:59my decisions
15:00they're artistic interventions
15:01that occur to us
15:02because they despise
15:03my mother
15:04but because
15:05it's not necessary
15:06let them
15:07say whatever they want
15:08Did she call you?
15:09Did she say anything?
15:10Did she send you a message?
15:11Well, you're always
15:12in contact with your parents
15:13What happened?
15:14What did you do?
15:15What happened?
15:16Tell me
15:17I'm getting messages
15:18That's it
15:19It's logical
15:20that a father
15:21would do that
15:22to a mother
15:23How was it
15:24on the team?
15:25Was there
15:26some kind of repercussion?
15:27A call for attention?
15:28No, well
15:29sometimes
15:30when you're
15:31doing something wrong
15:32people like it
15:33I don't want to be repetitive
15:34with this
15:35but
15:36that's a reflexive space
15:37of, well,
15:38next time
15:39we'll do something different
15:40but I insist
15:41we don't treat it
15:42in a pejorative way
15:43at all
15:44at all
15:45we simply
15:46recycle a joke
15:47that has been made
15:48countless times
15:49everywhere
15:50in movies,
15:51in series,
15:52in TV shows
15:53nothing else
15:54Well, Toto,
15:55thank you very much
15:56Please
15:57Thank you
15:58Well, let's see
15:59it was an artistic event
16:00that you may like
16:01or you may not
16:02What do you think, Diego?
16:03Eh
16:04Stop indignating me
16:05I feel a little sorry
16:06because I understand
16:07the bet
16:08you have to renew
16:09the content
16:10every day
16:11and sometimes
16:12the ideas
16:13run out
16:14Now, you did something
16:15that everyone did
16:16Dude, you have
16:17the high bar
16:18You can't make
16:19a joke
16:20like they did
16:21And if you get
16:22into sensitive topics
16:23all humor
16:24has to have
16:25some intelligence
16:26and leave you
16:27with a moral
16:28Yes
16:29That's the joke
16:30But what are you
16:31trying to say
16:32with this?
16:33I don't know
16:34I think of Enrique Pinti
16:35getting into
16:36the economic
16:37politics of Argentina
16:38The guy
16:39made you laugh
16:40and told you
16:41No, but Diego
16:42Wait, I'll close
16:43with this
16:44so I don't lose
16:45the thread
16:46In Tato Bores
16:47he told you
16:48the worst news
16:49in the face
16:50Yes
16:51But until today
16:52the humor
16:53of Tato Bores
16:54is still valid
16:55I think
16:56look at something
16:57closer
16:58Look at
16:59Fatima Flores
17:00Fatima Flores
17:01was the partner
17:02of a government
17:03that is supposed
17:04to be anti-popular
17:05I went to see her
17:06I may disagree
17:07with some idea
17:08Yes
17:09People
17:10obviously
17:11it was
17:12of different
17:13political signs
17:14made you
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17:17and made you laugh
17:18as much as
17:19you didn't
17:20agree
17:21with the city
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17:23That is
17:24intelligent
17:25humor
17:26Fine
17:27But
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