MEDI1TV Afrique : LE GRAND JOURNAL MIDI - 09/10/2024
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00:00Hello and welcome to Medea TV. It's a pleasure to have you here to talk about the news.
00:22Here are the headlines.
00:25In Tangier, the third high-level ministerial conference on the initiative of the Blue Belt.
00:31The goal is to develop a blue economy based on food and employment.
00:38Benyamin Netanyahu threatens Lebanese people to suffer destruction like in Gaza if they don't free their country from Hezbollah.
00:45On Place Israel, he intensified his attacks in Lebanon and continues his bombings in the Gaza Strip.
00:50In Mozambique, more than 17 million voters are called to the polls for general elections.
00:58The opposition is putting power on the line against any irregularity.
01:07The United Arab Emirates reiterated in New York their full support for national sovereignty and territorial integrity of Morocco
01:13as well as the autonomy plan presented by the Kingdom to definitively close the regional gap.
01:18In the Sahara, the representative of the Emirate, Abdallah Zarouni,
01:21in front of the members of the 4th Commission of the UN General Assembly,
01:24stressed that his country supports all the measures taken by Morocco
01:28to defend its legitimate rights and supports the Moroccan autonomy plan.
01:32This initiative, called serious and credible by the Security Council,
01:36is in line with international law as well as the UN Charter and Resolutions,
01:41reiterated by the responsible Emirati.
01:46Tangier hosts the 3rd high-level ministerial conference on the initiative of the Blue Belt.
01:50This meeting allows to consolidate the roadmap for the development of an economy
01:54focused on food and employment.
01:56The explanations with Younus Benzineb.
01:59Under the theme of building a base to stimulate food and employment
02:04in the framework of an approach to the development of the blue economy,
02:08the call was given to the 3rd edition of the ministerial conference on the initiative of the Blue Belt.
02:15Organized by the Ministry of Agriculture and Maritime Fisheries in partnership with the World Bank,
02:22this conference inaugurates the first edition of the African Week of the Oceans
02:26which includes a series of meetings and exchanges of ministers and experts in the African continent.
02:38Today we learned about the evolution of the situation of the oceans
02:42with the participating countries.
02:44We also attended the presentation of the results of the research
02:48carried out by experts in the African continent.
02:57Today's conference is also an opportunity to present the results of the mission
03:02carried out by the oceanographic ship Al-Hassan Marrakech
03:09in the economic zones of Liberia and Benin.
03:15The Blue Belt is an initiative launched by Morocco in 2016 on the eve of the COP22.
03:21It is a platform to implement innovative solutions
03:25for the adaptation of the fishing sector to climate change.
03:29According to the participants, the optimization of the blue economy
03:32will play a central role in the realization of sustainable development goals.
03:38At the continent level, we are concerned with the implementation
03:41of all that we have as programs, strategies, policies
03:46and we see that every time we come to Morocco
03:49we launch an initiative and we go all the way.
03:52We can exchange these experiences and also try to share them with other African countries
03:57who need Morocco's expertise to move forward with all our programs.
04:04The blue economy is a priority for the African Union
04:07and when we have a member country that already has all these technologies,
04:11all this knowledge, it is good to share it with others
04:14and this is how we can reach the objectives of the Agenda 2063.
04:19In total, the event includes the participation of 32 countries,
04:23including 16 delegations led by the ministers in charge of fishing and the blue economy.
04:31Prelude to the Summit of the Oceans took place in Tangier,
04:34the third day of the Week of the Oceans,
04:36a meeting dedicated to African consultations.
04:39And to find out a little more, we are live from Tangier with Mohamed Lahlossi,
04:43head of services at the Ministry of Fishing. Hello.
04:50Hello, Madam.
04:52So, to begin with, what is the purpose of these African consultations?
05:01In fact, on this third day of the Week of the Oceans activities in Tangier,
05:06today is the organization of a large-scale event on an African scale.
05:11This is in fact an African consultation
05:14preparatory to the United Nations Conference on the Oceans,
05:17which will be held next year in Nice, France.
05:20And the objective is that it is an unprecedented initiative on an African scale.
05:26African countries no longer have to attend the United Nations Conference
05:32as representatives, as participants,
05:35but rather as a major actor whose voice must be heard
05:38at the international level in this forum.
05:42So, these are African consultations.
05:46What is, in your opinion, the weight of African participation
05:50and what are the main recommendations of these consultations?
05:58Precisely, the African consultation aims to increase
06:03and give more strength to African participation
06:06to make its voice heard within the United Nations,
06:09which is the major instance for the governance of the oceans,
06:12so that the voice of Africa is taken into account,
06:15so that the specificities and challenges of the African continent
06:20are taken into account by the United Nations.
06:23As for the weight of the participation, as you pointed out at the beginning,
06:28there are more than thirty delegations,
06:31many of which are represented at ministerial levels,
06:34and there is also the presence of important, eminent people
06:38directly linked to the oceanic governance.
06:41There is the presence of Ambassador Peter Thompson,
06:44who is the Special Envoy to the Secretary-General of the United Nations,
06:47who is in charge of the oceans.
06:49There is the presence of Ambassador Omar Hillel,
06:51permanent representative of the Kingdom of Morocco to the United Nations.
06:55And there is the African Commissioner,
06:58Madam Seko, I don't know, who is the Commissioner for Agriculture and Rural Affairs.
07:02It is a very, very important participation in quality and quantity.
07:09Well, thank you, Mohamed Larossi, for all these details.
07:11I remind you that you are Chief of Staff at the Ministry of Fisheries.
07:18We continue this newscast.
07:19Direction the Middle East.
07:20Benyamin Netanyahu threatened the Lebanese to suffer destruction, like in Gaza,
07:25if they did not free their country from Hezbollah.
07:27Israel carried out air strikes targeting the south and east of Lebanon,
07:31as well as the southern border of Beirut.
07:33In the evening, the Lebanese International Information Agency reported a series of strikes,
07:37causing massive destruction in the southern border of the capital.
07:40And after claiming rockets fired on Israeli military sites on Tuesday,
07:45Hezbollah threatened to intensify its attacks
07:48if Israeli bombings continued in Lebanon.
07:52More than 17 million Mozambicans were called this Wednesday
07:57to elect their president, parliament and governors of the provinces.
08:01The polling stations of this country must remain open until 6 p.m.
08:05The last elections in 2019, which gave 73% of the votes to the Mozambique Liberation Front candidate,
08:11the party in power for half a century, had been plagued with irregularities.
08:15And last year's municipalities had been fiercely contested by the opposition.
08:19These elections are taking place in a morose economic context,
08:22while terrorist attacks in the north of the country continue.
08:29Senegal made its school return on October 7th,
08:32a fateful moment for the parents of students.
08:34But in addition to the enrolments,
08:36the purchase of school supplies weighs on the parents' wallets.
08:39This is a report by Marie Madiop, Ouseinouniang and Moussandier.
08:44In Grand-Yof, a market in Dakar, the Senegalese capital,
08:47the school supplies stalls are already setting the scene after school starts.
08:52First-year students,
08:54this young girl has temporarily started selling school supplies.
09:03I've been buying my supplies here for six years.
09:06This year, since we haven't started classes,
09:08I thought I'd start selling,
09:10by working with this man to pay for my school fees.
09:15As a student, I put myself in the customer's shoes.
09:18By offering affordable supplies, I really like this job.
09:24This morning, the market is not attractive at all.
09:27This can be explained by the price of life.
09:30But some parents sacrifice tradition.
09:34The prices have changed. They have evolved.
09:36They have become more expensive.
09:38Well, I met some buyers here
09:40who were forced to sell their old books
09:43in order to minimize the costs.
09:48Well, that gave me the idea, why not?
09:52Abdou, a CIE student,
09:55is judging the price of his child's school supplies.
10:01When I saw the list of supplies for my child,
10:04I was surprised at how expensive the prices were
10:06for someone who had just started school.
10:08So imagine for those who have a lot of children,
10:10and especially children in the upper class.
10:15This seller is trying to explain this situation
10:18by the diversity of the Senegalese school program.
10:23I have been selling books in ECAE since 1993.
10:27But for a few years now, we have been facing problems
10:30related to the price of books due to the diversity of school programs
10:33that vary from one school to another
10:35and do not facilitate the sale of books.
10:41The government is thus invited to reorganize the education system.
10:47I am asking the authorities to reform the education system.
10:51The program can be improved and the market regulated.
10:54Education and health are the pillars of development.
10:59Since October 7, more than 4 million students
11:02have resumed school everywhere in Senegal.
11:05The effectiveness of the 2024-2025 school year is estimated at 80%.
11:11Some schools, still in the rainy season,
11:14will start gradually.
11:18Now it's time to invite the big news.
11:21We will talk about the 4th edition of the World Power to X Summit
11:26on green hydrogen.
11:28We are live from Marrakech with the energy expert,
11:31Amine Benouna. Hello.
11:34Hello and thank you for the invitation.
11:37The World Power to X Summit aims to promote the dynamics of Morocco
11:42to become a world leader in the field of green hydrogen.
11:46So what is the Moroccan offer for foreign investors?
11:52So, what is called the Moroccan offer,
11:56given that, I would say, it is not Morocco who said it,
12:01but foreign experts who said that Morocco
12:04was one of the 6 most attractive countries in the world
12:07for investments aimed at the production of green hydrogen,
12:12well, we have to capitalize on this reality
12:17which is due to the geography and a whole bunch of elements
12:21which are rather natural.
12:24Now, the Moroccan offer has a particularity,
12:30which is that the Moroccan offer does not only include
12:33an invitation to come and invest,
12:36to come and produce green hydrogen in Morocco,
12:39but it also includes an off-taker,
12:42that is to say a local client,
12:44who is available before 2030 to take the equivalent of 200,000 tonnes,
12:49200,000 tonnes of green hydrogen by 2031,
12:54and this is the OCP.
12:56Because the production of hydrogen,
13:00hydrogen today is used in the industry,
13:04for fertilizers in particular,
13:07but also in metallurgy,
13:10in the heavy industry, the industry of ferrous metals and non-ferrous metals,
13:14and it will also be used in energy applications
13:22when its price will go down.
13:24And its price will only go down
13:26when the quantity of green hydrogen produced and sold will increase.
13:33Very well, so where is the production of green hydrogen
13:38and the green ammonia project for the Moroccan industry?
13:44So, the Moroccan industry,
13:46the immediate demand, the formulated, quantified and dated demand,
13:52is that of the Office-Sheriffiat des Phosphates,
13:55which, as I said, would like,
13:57in fact, the OCP does not want green hydrogen,
14:00the OCP wants green ammonia,
14:03which is produced itself from green hydrogen.
14:07The OCP consumes up to 2,000,
14:11about 1,000,000 tons of ammonia.
14:16This figure should go from 2,000,000 to 2,000,000 tons of ammonia in 2030,
14:22and the OCP considers that half of this ammonia
14:27is green ammonia, therefore produced from green hydrogen,
14:32which means a local production of about 200,000 tons of green hydrogen.
14:39So, all these thousands, millions of tons do not speak,
14:45but you should know that the global production of green hydrogen today
14:51does not exceed a few hundred thousand tons, between 200,000 and 500,000.
14:55So, in reality, the Moroccan supply itself
15:00has a demand that is of the order of magnitude
15:04of today's global production.
15:09This is the most important particularity in the Moroccan supply,
15:14this is what distinguishes it from all the other countries,
15:19I mean, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Chile.
15:24We have a particularity, we have an immediate market,
15:29we have someone waiting to consume green hydrogen
15:34produced in Morocco in the form of green ammonia.
15:38So, this event, the World Power to X Summit,
15:42is an essential event to explore initiatives,
15:46but also strategies related to green hydrogen and technology.
15:49So, how can we accelerate the realization of the green hydrogen economy
15:53on a large scale, especially in Africa?
15:58So, in Africa, I admit that I do not know what to answer,
16:03because for me, Africa is not one country, it is 50 countries.
16:08So, the situations are completely different,
16:13and the way I am happy to speak of Morocco,
16:17I know a little better than the totality of the 50 other African countries.
16:24And, in fact, I see that since we started talking about green hydrogen,
16:31green hydrogen production, everyone is in a hurry.
16:35You should know that the demand formulated by the OECD is in a hurry, it is urgent.
16:42But things cannot go faster than music, right?
16:49First, we will have to put on the table a million tons of green ammonia in 2031,
16:56that is to say 200,000 tons of green hydrogen.
16:59So, it is already a certain challenge.
17:02And to accelerate, there are some who would like to accelerate, to go faster.
17:06First, we do not go faster than the market.
17:10When we have a demand, we first satisfy the demand,
17:14and then the hydrogen for energy use.
17:22I do not think that hydrogen will be competitive against conventional fuels before 2035-2040.
17:32So, we have time to do it, we have time to get people together,
17:37we have time to advance research and development,
17:40we also have time to federate the capacities,
17:45whether it is the capacity to produce energy,
17:47whether it is the capacity to desalinate water,
17:49because we will produce hydrogen from desalinated water,
17:52whether it is the capacity to produce the electrolysis system, etc.
18:03So, Morocco is considering in particular to make sure that the electrolyzers
18:11destined for the Moroccan market are manufactured in Morocco.
18:15We will see.
18:16This is perhaps the most complicated part, let's say.
18:25So, to come back to the socio-economic development that green hydrogen can bring,
18:30which is also a major technological advance,
18:33how is the promotion of innovation and technological development of companies being carried out?
18:42At the level of companies, there is still something to do.
18:47It is mainly because I think that in the production of renewable energy,
18:53what was to be done has already been done.
18:57I don't really see where we could go.
19:01On the other hand, for the production of green hydrogen,
19:05in the field of chemistry, in particular electrochemistry,
19:09there is still a lot of development to be done,
19:12which could be done in Morocco,
19:15which could be done for the benefit of Moroccan companies,
19:21if, however, the need is met.
19:25But anyway, I am one of those who say
19:29that it is better to make your own bread,
19:37even if you don't have to make the flour.
19:41If you see what I mean,
19:43it is that if we had to go through a transfer of technology in the first place,
19:47and I think that is what the OECD is considering doing,
19:50that is to say, in the first place,
19:53it is well-known, tested material
19:57that will be installed to produce the hydrogen intended for the OECD.
20:03We don't imagine researchers finding solutions
20:10that will satisfy the OECD by 2031.
20:12It is a given.
20:14On the other hand, to go beyond,
20:16to go and get, not a few hundred thousand tons of hydrogen,
20:21but to go and get millions,
20:23hundreds, hundreds of millions of tons of hydrogen,
20:28by then we will have time to come back
20:31and then research and development
20:33may have time to make some innovations here and there
20:37to make sure that this hydrogen
20:41becomes as cheap as possible, as quickly as possible.
20:45Because it must be said, it must be said, the reality
20:48is that the hydrogen on the market
20:53is sold at about 70 dirhams per kilogram.
20:58And for it to be used effectively in the field of energy,
21:05it must go down to 10 dirhams,
21:07that is, its price, I did not say its cost,
21:10its price must go down by about a factor of 7
21:14for the production of electricity
21:17and that it goes down by about a factor of 3
21:20for the use of hydrogen.
21:23You see that we are not there yet,
21:25but we will go, we will go, we will go
21:27and Morocco will bring its stone to this progression.
21:32At present, can we look at the prospects
21:36and funding opportunities in the green hydrogen sector
21:39and clean molecules?
21:43I don't think we're going to reinvent the wheel.
21:47The funding mechanisms are the same
21:50as those we've seen everywhere.
21:56To attract companies to settle in Morocco,
22:00to produce in Morocco,
22:02we already have an experience
22:06and success in the field of automotive and aeronautics.
22:11We just have to take the basic concepts of this strategy
22:17and duplicate it for what is green hydrogen
22:22and in particular green hydrogen for energy in the future.
22:28Because hydrogen for industry
22:33only represents 100 million tons.
22:39It's huge compared to what we're going to produce now.
22:43But it only represents 100 million tons
22:46and half of these 100 million tons
22:49are destined for hydrocarbons
22:51that produce hydrogen directly
22:54from the hydrocarbons extracted.
22:58Morocco is not yet in the field
23:01of hydrocarbons extraction.
23:03So, for now, we're a bit on the edge.
23:10What will probably be done by the ECP
23:14is to finance,
23:17to do a bit of what we do in PPAs,
23:20that is, in Purchase Power Agreements.
23:23When you buy electricity from someone
23:26who invests for you, a developer,
23:29well, the ECP has no reason
23:32to put all these batteries in these gas plants,
23:36if I may say so,
23:38even if it's a hydrogen gas.
23:41The ECP will make a call
23:45to purchase contracts
23:48on farms to buy salt water,
23:54to buy, there are several steps to buy salt water.
23:58To buy salt water from farmers
24:01to buy green hydrogen
24:04and to buy green ammonia.
24:08I don't think that the ECP
24:12will invest in all this business.
24:18It's not necessarily its core business.
24:24Well, thank you, Amine Benouna,
24:27for all these details.
24:29I remind you that you are an energy expert
24:31and that you have been with us since Marrakech.
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