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00:00A new week is already on the horizon in the National Football League. It's a Tuesday
00:05So after the conclusion of Monday night football, the rest of the league is getting ready for a new week ahead. It is week
00:14number six
00:1518 weeks of this NFL season at the end of this week
00:19Hey, we're a third of the way done already through the NFL campaign
00:24It has not been a kind early start for the Las Vegas Raiders a huge upset in Baltimore
00:30That was the good but Devante Adams. He's already pissed
00:34He wants to be traded business decisions has been made in this
00:38Organization and your quarterback room is in question
00:42Gardner Minshew got benched in the second half in Denver on Sunday. They lost to the Broncos did Las Vegas big
00:503418 coming nowhere close to even covering as a two-and-a-half point road underdog at
00:56Mile high so head coach Antonio Pierce
01:00Trying to figure out and evaluate who's going to get the starting nod in week number six
01:06Will it be Minshew or will it be the second year pro out of Purdue Aiden?
01:12O'Connell here were the stat lines Joe
01:14Against Denver in Denver on Sunday Minshew 12 of 17
01:20137 yards a touchdown in two interceptions
01:24in fact an interception that greatly changed the trajectory of this game and perhaps his career in Las Vegas and
01:32The season the Raiders were up 10 zip at the end of the opening quarter
01:36They were driving early in the second quarter deep in Denver Territory
01:41Gardner Minshew gets picked off by Patrick Sertan the second who takes it back
01:47100 yards for a pick six
01:50He ended up throwing another interception in the third quarter to find a seat on the bench
01:55All right
01:56Come on, Aiden O'Connell double-digit starts a year ago in his rookie season
02:00I'll be it an old rookie out of Purdue 10 of 20 for 94 yards and an interception
02:08Against a stingy
02:10Broncos defense
02:13Whatever way you slice it Joe doesn't look overly optimistic for whatever quarterback decision is made in Cincinnati
02:20Yeah, I you know, all right
02:22Congratulations, you got it. But listen, there was a reason why
02:27Devontae Adams wanted out after agreeing to stay
02:30You know he that should have told you everything you need to know about the quarterback situation for the Raiders
02:37I mean he got paid he got his money and then he realized that you know
02:41Gardner Minshew being the starting quarterback leading him into, you know
02:45Three defenders every time he's got to catch the ball to get absolutely crushed
02:50It's probably not a very good career extender not to mention that
02:55The O'Donnelly the kid backing him up here is is just as bad. So there this is gone from bad to worse
03:02I don't know who thought the Raiders were really gonna be competitive this year anyway
03:07But it just it's gone from bad to worse and it all starts with the organization
03:13Deciding that Minshew or Donald we're gonna give you your best chance at winning games and neither are capable of
03:19Anything other than being a backup and having to come in to start maybe a game or two at best in the season
03:26And that's kind of the case here, right?
03:29Gardner Minshew as is as reliable of an experienced backup quarterback as you could want around the National Football League as we saw
03:37last year with
03:39Indianapolis leading the Colts to a potential playoff spot and a winning record
03:44It is what er is what has earned him this contract and if you ask Gardner Minshew
03:49He is going to tell you he is capable of being a starting quarterback and a successful one in the National Football League
03:55And I do think there is some credence to that but maybe not the future of your franchise
04:02Aiden O'Connell who was drafted out of Purdue who had a lot of experience last year
04:08Who did not win the starting job in favor of Minshew? It's not like they're hoping to see what the young guy has
04:15He's 25. It's why the Raiders Joe before this season even got underway
04:20Expected to probably be one of the worst teams in the NFL at least with one of the worst records six and eleven seven and
04:26Ten more than likely drafting in the top ten
04:29It's why every mock draft had a quarterback
04:32Whoever that might be from the college ranks being drafted by Las Vegas Carson Beck should or Sanders Quinn
04:38You is whoever it might be going to Las Vegas
04:42There was already a thought they would be having a quarterback change starting in 2025
04:47It's just happening earlier than maybe anticipated in 2024
04:51You saw the wind total for Las Vegas six and a half. The under has the juice at minus
04:57134 that will be the interesting thing to me Joe because you could make an argument and I think it's very sound that Antonio Pierce
05:05is the permanent head coach in Las Vegas because he did not quit and his roster did not quit on
05:11Him a season ago as the interim head coach after they dismissed Josh Josh McDaniels before
05:18Thank or before Halloween
05:20He got the buy-in of that team to go
05:24Seven one and one against the spread in the nine games as a head coach winning outright five times
05:31The question I think for Las Vegas is maybe not how many wins the Raiders end up with Joe
05:37But how competitive they are each and every week in the NFL to maybe cover a bunch of games
05:42They're listed as a three-point home favorite on Sunday afternoon
05:47hosting Pittsburgh
05:49Which is kind of funny in its own right there, uh
05:53Listen if the bottom line to me is defensively
05:56You still have one of the best edge rushers in the game. They are provided. You can keep him by healthy there
06:02They've got some nice pieces
06:04But listen Pierce has been a a head coach and his style is that you're gonna need to be able to run
06:10The ball and play defense and low scoring games
06:14That's what you're going to need to do and unfortunately in these games so far this this season
06:20They've gotten themselves into some shootouts that are not that's not how you're going to win football games
06:27They need to be able to run the ball and play lower scoring games
06:31And when they don't do that, it's gonna look as ugly as ever now whether or not they can change that with a change in
06:38Quarterback, I don't know what that who cares who hands the ball off, but apparently Pierce does
06:45Samir white is really the guy for Las Vegas to know in the backfield as for maybe a top target
06:53Yeah, Devante Adams, he's not gonna be in Las Vegas long head coach Antonio Pierce asked about where things went wrong with Devante quote
07:01I don't know. You have to ask Devante any updates on his situation
07:05Quote its status
07:07Quote. Yeah, I don't know exactly where Devante Adams goes
07:11I just know it's not going to be in Las Vegas for much longer injury updates around the National Football League up next
07:19Live right here on the early line on sports grid as soon as one week ends in the National Football League
07:25It's already time to get ready for the next week six is on the horizon some conflicting reports
07:31Joe around Kansas City wide receiver Rashid Rice in the extent of his injury that he suffered early in week four in
07:39The game against the Chargers, of course after Patrick Mahomes three pick he was trying to make the tackle
07:45So was Mahomes Mahomes goes in to the right knee of Rice
07:49It seemed as though it would be a significant knee injury and we would know about a week ago that Rice's
07:55Season had come to a close, but there's been some weirdness. They haven't really talked about the extent of the injury
08:02He was placed on IR ahead of week number five. So out for at least a month. There were some optimistic reports
08:09He's apparently going to go under the knife today to figure out the true extent of the injury. We had ESPN's Adam Schefter
08:18Providing more of a positive update and then perhaps the real one from NFL Network's Ian Rappaport
08:24Well chief star Rashid Rice's season is expected to be over. He did receive positive news today from dr
08:31Dan Cooper Rice needs his LCL repaired, but there is a chance. That's the only ligament to be repaired
08:38He expected to make a full recovery
08:41So I'm not sure if the fear was hey
08:43This guy might not be ready even for the start of 2025 based on how gruesome the knee injury was and this is the good news
08:51But I don't think it means that Rasheed Rice comes back by the time we get to mid-december. I
08:56Don't think it's even remotely close
08:58I and I don't understand what the confusion is here or why we're pretending like it's anything other than what we saw it for our
09:05own eyes here
09:06Very strange. I don't know if it has something to do
09:10contractually been or I
09:12Don't understand why they're trying to play coy with the health of that knee and this player who?
09:20Clearly is not going to be a factor for them
09:24This year. I don't even know how you come back from something like that
09:27So I'm just shocked that it's taken doctors this long to figure out what they're gonna do with the knee
09:33I mean, what is there something that doctors in the NFL have not seen before Ben? Is that possible? Yeah, I
09:40Would doubt it right and we have a pro football doc. Dr. David Chow on the show last week at the end of the week for
09:48Sunday Slayton he said listen
09:50It's pretty easy to determine if there is a torn ACL or what the structural damage is
09:55He did not anticipate rice being back at any point in 2024 and neither would I despite the slightly?
10:03Conflicting reports Adam Schefter then following up on his first kind of optimistic report saying rice's season is more than likely
10:10Done, but she rice at a point was the leading receiver in the National Football League currently at the end of five weeks
10:16That's Houston's Nico Collins. In fact, he is the only guy with more than 500 yards
10:21He's got 567 Joe and he exited Houston's win on Sunday against Buffalo
10:26Early after a long touchdown toss from CJ Stroud where he came up a little bit limp because of a ham
10:34String injury the Texans immediately after the game said hey, it's day-to-day. We'll monitor Nico Collins status moving forward now
10:41They are calling it week to week
10:44Not the best sign that Nico Collins will play on Sunday if they even need him against New England
10:52Yeah, no, well, I mean listen there there were a few injuries
10:56Concerning in that Houston game as guys were starting to get banged up. They're running back situation isn't great
11:03They do have enough depth in wide receiver, which is great
11:07But that's still not a great. That's not a great loss for them at all. So I do think that
11:14injury starting to pile up a little bit here for Houston, which is
11:18Concerning and the fact that they won that game is good against Buffalo, but in a lot of aspects they probably shouldn't have
11:25The Texans are 4 and 1 but they're just 1 3 and 1
11:29Against the spread covering last week closing as a slight point-and-a-half favorite at home against Buffalo
11:34They're a full touchdown favorite on the road in New England on
11:39Sunday interesting situation with one of the promising young wide receivers in Green Bay at least
11:45Entering this year Romeo Dobbs didn't show up to practice last week. They had to suspend him
11:51He then came back to the facility yesterday met with the team
11:54It went well reportedly and now he is going to be back at practice starting today
12:00For a new week as Green Bay gets ready to host Arizona at Lambeau on Sunday
12:06The Packers a five-and-a-half point favorite against a good Cardinals team in terms of covering numbers as an underdog
12:13Very strange situation
12:15Going on there. I don't know what to make of that with them
12:18But you know, they a lot of very young promising wide receivers on that team be great
12:24If they made themselves available for Jordan love, that would be great. I
12:29Mean Tucker craft the second year tight end from South Dakota State. What a stud
12:34Imagine if Devante Adams didn't like Derek Carr so much
12:37That
12:41The futures for the rest of the National Football League
12:45Season, we look at the MVP odds at the conclusion of week number five
12:50And we scratch our heads once again. Listen, I love the Kansas City Chiefs
12:56They should be the AFC title favorites
12:59They should reach a third consecutive Super Bowl, but Patrick Mahomes should not be the NFL MVP
13:06Favorite don't listen to me
13:08listen to Patrick himself who has said time and again over the last few weeks that he is not playing up to the
13:15Caliber that he needs to or expects. He did not throw a touchdown last night
13:21He should have juju Smith Schuster kind of dropped one that popped up in the air and led to an interception for the big man
13:28Colin Saunders, so that's not really on Mahomes who did throw for more than
13:32330 and was Dyson up New Orleans
13:35Secondary on Monday night, but overall the stats still look like this six touchdowns to six
13:43Interceptions if you want to make him one of the favorites because nobody has taken the front-running seat
13:49Fine, but it plus 230 as compared to everybody else at six to one or greater
13:55What are we doing? Lamar Jackson has the numbers to back it up, but I think it's voter fatigue
14:01Shouldn't there also be voter fatigue with another guy in the homes that has won two MVP Awards in the last six seasons
14:08I mean, I guess I really shouldn't care that much
14:11Mahomes is leading the Chiefs to a perfect 5-0 start, but still Joe. It just kind of boggles the mind
14:17Why and I think it really has more to do then with the books protecting themselves here in week five
14:25Are they really going to give you an opportunity to get Mahomes at six to one seven to one?
14:30In week five and six right now something so and then all of a sudden he rattles off
14:36Unbelievable numbers down the strats and wins every game, you know
14:40They're just not going to expose themselves to give you or us an opportunity to take him and anything more than what that number is
14:47Right now the question is how much faith do we have in anybody else? Let's say by week 13 Ben
14:55having racked up enough quality numbers and stats and
14:59Perception that they are better than homes and deserve because let's say they're undefeated. Let's say they're 13 and oh heading into
15:07week 14
15:09What would his number be then? So I think I think they're just protecting themselves at this point
15:15Yeah, I would agree Joe. And again, you would expect the offensive uptick to come for Kansas City
15:20It's been the defense that has really led to this perfect 5-0 start and again
15:25Mahomes did throw for more than 330 yards last night against the Saints to end out week number five and we always say I
15:33always say
15:35individual success
15:37Necessitates team success if you are going to win an MVP or Heisman Trophy Award as we'll discuss in a little bit
15:43your team needs to be good a playoff team a conference contender a
15:48Super Bowl contender and the Chiefs are certainly that but Mahomes is
15:541,235 passing yards. That's eighth best in the NFL when it comes to quarterback rating right now
16:00Patrick Mahomes is 19th behind the likes of Andy Dalton Gino Smith and Dak Prescott
16:06It's not like he has been
16:08Astonishing, but then again Joe
16:10I don't know who you really point to or in terms of the MVP race Lamar Jackson is playing out of his mind
16:17But he just won the NFL MVP Award a season ago and he has won it twice in the last five years
16:24Maybe that works against him is Jaden Daniels going to be considered a legitimate MVP
16:31contender like at points we saw
16:34CJ Stroud during his rookie year
16:36maybe Sam Darnold did lead the National Football League in passing touchdowns and
16:42During week number five and then did not throw any in London through for less than a buck 80 and had a very costly
16:50Interception Joe Burroughs putting up stats too, but his Bengals team is one and four again
16:55There's not many arguments and I guess that's why Mahomes is also the short favorite
17:00There's not many arguments for other quarterbacks to be placed in front of Patrick Mahomes at this point
17:07Yeah, no, there's
17:09It's gonna be interesting to Daniels argument, we'll see how that goes
17:13I mean Lamar had a unbelievable win on the road. I mean, he's gonna be always in the conversation
17:20How much do we believe Sam Darnold can continue to do what he's doing there?
17:24But I mean am I the only one of things I mean Kirk Cousins just threw from 500 yards here
17:29And he seems to be getting a little healthier here Ben and my am I crazy here and thinking they certainly have enough weapons
17:37and
17:38Opportunities I think to have him throw the ball all over the yard
17:41I call me crazy, but that might be the sleeper of the crew here
17:45Kirk Cousins right now eight touchdown passes after throwing for more than 500 yards on
17:52Thursday night again a franchise record for the Atlanta Falcons
17:57We shall see Joe if the offense performs in the way they did on Thursday, which was I mean, listen
18:03He's not gonna throw for 500 every week
18:05But if they are much better than they were the opening month of this year
18:08which was kind of the thought for the Falcons after the offseason acquisition of
18:13Kirk Cousins and you had all the talent with B. John Robinson and Drake London and Kyle Pitts and they also added
18:19Darnell Moody and Ray Ray McLeod. That's not a bad look again as much as I am kind of condemning Patrick
18:27Mahomes being the short favorite to win the NFL MVP award. I'm not sure I would tell you
18:32That guy presents a ton of value at this moment
18:36You see Jaden Daniels who is the odds-on favorite to an offensive rookie of the year at a greater than $2 price?
18:42Already have the fifth best number fifth best at 11 to 1 to win the NFL MVP
18:48Award I'm just gonna mention a couple of names that I think could move up the board if their teams are good
18:54Which I think they are
18:57That would be Jared Goff at a 22 to 1 number the last time we saw Jared Goff two Mondays ago
19:04Against Seattle. He threw for more than 300 yards and the offense put up 42 points after a relatively slow start
19:11For that Lions offense this year and here's another name to just keep an eye on
19:18Baker Mayfield
19:19He did not throw for all that many yards and the Buccaneers coughed up a game on Thursday night in Atlanta
19:26But he still has 11 touchdown passes this year
19:30He is one of three guys alongside Joe Burrow and Sam Darnold that is thrown for at least 11 touchdown passes
19:37We're at least more than double digits double digits or more
19:41I still think Joe that Tampa is going to be a winning football team
19:45Contending with Atlanta for the NFC South or at least a playoff berth in the NFC
19:51I would keep an eye on Baker Mayfield as well
19:54All right, yeah, I listen very efficient
19:58Playoff some experience now coming back in a very winnable division
20:02There is nothing not to like or at least at this point in the season Ben
20:07He said, you know
20:08These are the kinds of guys you got to have if you're gonna take a shot and you're gonna tie up some money
20:13And here's a guy that you might want to consider because you got to believe Tampa at the end of the day Tampa and Atlanta
20:19Are the two that are gonna battle it out when it's all said and done
20:24Forty to one is the price on Baker Mayfield right now inside the 15 best
20:29But again only barely in the top 15 Aaron Rodgers
20:3565 to 1 maybe that's an indication of where this season goes for the New York Jets
20:40You were hoping Aaron Rodgers would look like the two-time reigning NFL MVP that went back-to-back
20:472020 and 2021
20:48Instead he looks like a 40 year old quarterback off a torn Achilles who had his worst career statistical season in
20:562022 not a good sign Joe last year part of the MVP conversation was Christian McCaffrey
21:02Of course, he has not played this year for San Francisco, but there was a thought
21:06Hey
21:07If anybody can keep a quarterback from winning the NFL MVP award
21:10It might be CMC Saquon Barkley shortest non quarterback price. I'll be it at 75 to 1
21:18Yeah, it's
21:20Non quarterbacks are gonna be tough here Ben because of the injuries are they not?
21:24And that's gonna be the the problem that we have. Are they going to have?
21:29that kind of
21:31Impact on the game and for their team moving forward. There's usually always one
21:36But I at this point, I don't know that anybody is stuck out
21:40usually Jefferson would have been a guy I had said that we should probably consider and
21:46Still may be a guy who want to consider if they keep winning games
21:49And I do want to just mention quickly Josh Allen off to an MVP star for the last two weeks has not been great
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