Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 26th August 2024
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00:00:00Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim, Assalam-o-Alaikum, Bakhabar-e-Sabira, Khusham-e-Deed, very good
00:00:11morning.
00:00:12Monday ka aaj aghaaz ho gaya hai aur weekend pe bahut saari khabrein thi jisme se hum yeh
00:00:19kaisa kein ki American election mein bahut kuch ho raha hai aur maha toh yun doh party
00:00:24ka system hai lekin hua yeh ki jo Sardarti Umidwar jo ke Democrat se unka talauk tha
00:00:29yaani ke Junior F. Kennedy unki agar hum baat karein jo ke bhateej hain John F. Kennedy
00:00:35ke wo bhi election me participate kar rahein toh unki badi zabardast following hai.
00:00:38Lekin unhone ailaan kiya ke wo election nahi lad rahein, magar unke election na ladne se
00:00:44nuksaan pauch raha tha Trump.
00:00:46Lekin unhone kya kiya, burkul 11th hour unhone jaakar endorse kar diya Donald Trump ko aur
00:00:51apne voter se kaha ke wo Donald Trump ko vote ke.
00:00:54Very nice.
00:00:55So this is quite a interesting twist in American election jo iswaq kar raha hai.
00:00:58I am glad you are following American elections that much, itne boys ke saath, it is very
00:01:05good to see.
00:01:06Abhi elections hone jaa rahe hain, lekin pehle taaruf karwaa dete, wo bahut zaruri hai, uske
00:01:10liye hum se iltamaas bhi kiya jaata hai, Ashfaq Ishaq Satti aur Sadaf Abdul Jabbar.
00:01:14Kaise hain aapne?
00:01:15Alhamdulillah, Allah ka shukar hai.
00:01:16Toh taaruf ke baad, aala ke zahir hai ke Sadaf kisi taaruf ke muhtaaj nahi hai, along
00:01:20with me.
00:01:21Lekin phir bhi yeh zaruri hai ke hum aapko bataein.
00:01:23Baaki yeh hai, ke janab weekend pe bahut kuch hua.
00:01:26I know, what are you going to say?
00:01:28Weekend pe bahut kuch hua.
00:01:29No, aap yeh dekhlein ke yeh Israel aur Hezbollah ke darmian kaafi tanaazaat hote raha hai,
00:01:33phir uske baad Telegram ek jo bahut badi messaging app hai, along with WhatsApp and you know
00:01:38the other services that we have in different countries.
00:01:41Toh uske jo bani hain, CEO hain, unko arrest kar liya gaya.
00:01:45Aur aap yeh dekhein ki yeh wo app hai, Russia se jiska aagaz hua tha, China mein aap dekhen
00:01:51hai WeChat ko, chunki aap moderate kar sakte hain, different jagon pe different apps ko.
00:01:55Lekin yeh jo app thi, isko moderate nahi hune diya, phir unhone apni Putin sahab ke kehne
00:02:00ke baujud, kyunki group members ki limit hoti hai na, wahaan par limit hi nahi hai uski.
00:02:05User ka data maang rahe the, government, lekin wo facilitate nahi kiya, Telegram ke
00:02:09CEO ne.
00:02:10Ab unko pata tha, wo private jet me safar kar rahe the, France unhe pohnchana tha, wahaan
00:02:14par unhe arrest kar liya hai.
00:02:15Aur France ki unki shahriyat hai unke paas.
00:02:17Yeh aap imagine karein.
00:02:18Andaza karein.
00:02:19Aur usko Elon Musk ne bada zabardast tweet kiya, unhone ne likha 2030, bahot zyada door
00:02:23bhi nahi gaye, unhone ne likha 2030, aap kisi ke khilaf memes bhi jo hai na usko like kar
00:02:28deyen, toh bhi aapko arrest kiya jaa sakta hai.
00:02:30Doosri cheez yeh hai.
00:02:31So he is very predictable.
00:02:32Ek cheez jo I would appreciate about that guy ke Ukraine ki surat-e-hal ho, sahi surat-e-hal.
00:02:37Ek toh Ukraine wale bata rahe the, Russia wale, lekin sahi surat-e-hal wo bata rahe
00:02:41the.
00:02:42Gaza ki surat-e-hal jo bhi saamne aaye, Elon Musk jo marzi kahe, lekin jo asal surat-e-hal
00:02:45thi, wo telegram ke platform se saamne aate rahe the.
00:02:48Lekin unpar ilzaam yeh lagaya gaya hai, unke platform hai, uske through money laundering
00:02:52ho rahi the, aur criminal activities ho rahi the.
00:02:55Zahir hai, yeh Daesh waghara ke usage ka bhi ilzaam.
00:02:58Saari criminals hai, bakaul Western authorities hai, wo hi keh rahe the, wo telegram use kar
00:03:03rahe the.
00:03:04One billion followers hain, subscribers hain, telegram ke, let's see kya hota hai.
00:03:07Pakistan mein baharal wo ban hai.
00:03:09Aur aapki jo main baat, jisko main predict kar rahi thi ki Ashfaq ki dil ko jaa ke lagi
00:03:12hogi, wo ki...
00:03:13That was about to happen.
00:03:14Yeh mobile phone ke signals ban.
00:03:15Chalain jee, hum baat kar lete hain, humare saath maujood hain.
00:03:17Aap ek Test Cricketer, Tauseef Ahmed sahab.
00:03:19Thank you so much jee, Tauseef sahab, shayad Hashmi sahab hain humare saath?
00:03:23Acha, Tauseef sahab humare saath maujood hain.
00:03:25Tauseef sahab, bahot is par baatein ho chuki hain, ke jab se yeh match mein humein shikast
00:03:31hui hain, yeh hua, wo hua, is tariqaise hua.
00:03:33Rai jaisa humne majmua diya.
00:03:35Yeh pehli tafa mujhe kehne ka mauka mila hai, on National TV.
00:03:38Varna Pahar jaisa...
00:03:39Varna Pahar jaisa majmua toh bahot hote the.
00:03:41Aapke ispe taasuraat kya hain?
00:03:45Dekhiye, zahir hain.
00:03:47Jis tana ki cricket humne kheli, aur jo aalat pichle 6 mahine se chal rahe the.
00:03:53Aur sab samajh rahe the, shayad yeh series mein hum achi tarah unko raayenge aur uske baad
00:03:59sari cheezin chup jayenge.
00:04:01Jo surgery ki baat ho rahi thi, wo bas hawa mein mere isaapte rahi gayi aur kuch bhi nahi
00:04:08hua.
00:04:09Hum ispe aatein ki yeh test mein kya hua kya.
00:04:12Sare excuse, zahir hain, Prashant ne excuse hi dene the.
00:04:17Aur aapne pitch banayi.
00:04:21Gless jo hain, ko ismein main nahi samjhta ki koi involvement hain.
00:04:27Toh din pehle hi aaye.
00:04:29Aur uske alawa pitch banane ke Tony hain, woh bhi toh din pehle aaye.
00:04:35Par grass pohdi aur uske baad.
00:04:37Aur pir Azhar Mehmood sahab, asal Azhar Mehmood sahab.
00:04:46Aur wohi saarah deal kar rahe the.
00:04:48Pindi ke lehte hain, Islamabad mein.
00:04:51I mean wohi saarah handle kar rahe the.
00:04:54Main toh wohi keh raha hoon, wohi toh hain bhi Pindi ke.
00:04:57Unhe toh bachpan se leke ab tak unhe read karna chahiye tha ki yeh wicket kaise hai,
00:05:01kya hota hai.
00:05:02Ek toh woh kyun hain.
00:05:04Pitch ko aap kitna zimmedaar kara deyenge is shikas ka, Tauseef sahab?
00:05:10Nahi, sabse pehle toh Azhar Mehmood wahan kyun hain.
00:05:13Jab Gillespie aa gaye, toh pir unka kaam nahi hai yahan.
00:05:16Woh waise bhi British mein hain aur jab unko mauka milta hai toh woh kehte hain,
00:05:22main toh British nationality hai, main toh India jaa sakta hoon.
00:05:25Aur woh chale jaate hain.
00:05:27Matlab yeh ek ajeepti kahani hai.
00:05:30Agar main tactical uspe aa jaaun toh duniya kah rahi the.
00:05:34Aur mai Gillespie agar chaar pesar khilana chahate hain,
00:05:39unka machwara tha, mera nahi khayal unka machwara tha,
00:05:43toh yeh unse puchhe koi,
00:05:45ki aap jab khelte the,
00:05:47ya is waqt ke daur mein bhi,
00:05:49aapke Australia mein,
00:05:51kitne pesar khelte hain,
00:05:53kya Australian nahi khelta?
00:05:55Nathan Lyon aapka regular bowler hai.
00:05:57Tauseef bhai, hum yeh baat kar rahe the,
00:05:58ki jab first day abhi match shuru nahi hua tha,
00:06:00tab Mary aur hamari aapke baat hui thi,
00:06:02toh usmein yeh discussion ho raha tha,
00:06:04ke bhai Perth jaisi wicket pe bhi,
00:06:06woh Nathan Lyon ko khilate hain.
00:06:08Unke pesars, hamare pesars jaise nahi hain,
00:06:10maazurat ke saath,
00:06:12unke genuine pesars hote hain,
00:06:14150 plus wale,
00:06:16humare paas na Shoaib Akhtar hai,
00:06:18na Mohammad Zahid hai,
00:06:20na Mohammad Sami hai,
00:06:22woh genuine pes,
00:06:24Waqar Yunus Wasim Akram,
00:06:26woh nahi raha,
00:06:28ab hamare pesars ka maximum pes hai,
00:06:30142 se upar nahi jaata,
00:06:32aur unke 150's mein kara rahe the,
00:06:34Bangladeshi.
00:06:36Aur main samjhta hu,
00:06:38Bangladesh jo iss aalaat se gozar raha hai,
00:06:40jiska aapne bhi dekhar kiya,
00:06:42aur unke baad pressure hai,
00:06:44unka ek player ko iss waqt,
00:06:46kaha jaa raha hai ji,
00:06:48ki unko hataayen yahan se aur wapas bhejeyen,
00:06:50uske upar pada,
00:06:52kitni badi baat bhi ne ke bawajood,
00:06:54unka focus jo tha,
00:06:56woh cricket pe tha,
00:06:58aur unka aaj ka focus nahi hai,
00:07:00kyunki main Bangladesh ko,
00:07:02saal ek pehle kya hua tha,
00:07:04unko zabazar focus hai,
00:07:06har liahat se,
00:07:08chahe ground ho, pitches ho,
00:07:10ya koi bhi cheez ho,
00:07:12to uspe unka bada focus hai,
00:07:14to unka focus jo hai,
00:07:16hume yahan nazar aa gaya,
00:07:18aur hum 100% being a cricketer,
00:07:20ho sakta hai log,
00:07:22lekin main samjhta hu,
00:07:24jino ne spinner na kila ke,
00:07:26woh galti ki chalein,
00:07:28woh aapne ki aur big mistake,
00:07:30lekin uske baad,
00:07:32jis tarah ke position aap dikhne,
00:07:34jis tarah ke shot aapne khud bhi kahe,
00:07:36ki shot ki marke out hai,
00:07:38unko ne bahut easy diya usko,
00:07:40fir ek factor,
00:07:42kehte hain,
00:07:44main kehte hain,
00:07:46jo kahaniya chal rahi thi na,
00:07:48unko Rizwan ke 200 run na hone pe,
00:07:50unka reaction aap dikhte,
00:07:52jab woh baayar kahe to,
00:07:54unko aise hi,
00:07:56to unke dehin mein kahi na kahi tha,
00:07:58ki mere 200 nahi kar rahi thi,
00:08:00to unko easy le rahe tha,
00:08:02lekin ye humein pata tha,
00:08:04ki Bangladeshi ko agar mauka mil gaya,
00:08:06to unke spinner uda ke rahe tha,
00:08:08ab woh keh rahe hai,
00:08:10jo apna shaan ke cracks aa gaye tha,
00:08:12kaunse cracks aa gaye tha,
00:08:14yaar fifth day,
00:08:16aapki har pitch pe,
00:08:18bowling foot marks,
00:08:20usse patches banta hai,
00:08:22to unko easy le rahe tha,
00:08:24to unko easy le rahe tha,
00:08:26to unko easy le rahe tha,
00:08:28usse patches banta hai,
00:08:30patches banta hai, true,
00:08:32aur uspe runner turn ki aap,
00:08:34to straight forward yeh,
00:08:36ke aapka inside problem jo hai,
00:08:38jiski abhi ki chairman sahab,
00:08:40toh Tauseef sahab ispe bhi aayenge,
00:08:42lekin aap chahe T20 ki baat kar lein,
00:08:44one day ki baat kar lein,
00:08:46T20 world cup me jo performance rahi,
00:08:48bade bade naam hai humari team me,
00:08:50Babar ki baat kar letein,
00:08:52woh usme bhi nahi chalein,
00:08:54woh idhar bhi aap unki performance dekh lein,
00:08:56yeh humaar yeh hogaya,
00:08:58ke pehle Babar ko hataya,
00:09:00phir Shaheen ko laya,
00:09:02phir Babar ko laya,
00:09:04yeh wale maslein,
00:09:06lekin overall teeno format ki baat kar lein,
00:09:08performance kyu nahi deh paarein humare players?
00:09:10saamne hai na cheezein,
00:09:12jab inside hi aapko sab accha lag raha ho,
00:09:14aur hum baar baith ke keh rahein accha nahi hai,
00:09:16aur kuch cheezein ground mein
00:09:18hume nathar aa jaate hain,
00:09:20yeh isni ho raha hai,
00:09:22yonki hum toh usri nathar se dekhte hain,
00:09:24agar koi cheezein kharab hui hoti hain,
00:09:26toh usko iss nathar se dekhte hain,
00:09:28ke yeh bolly accha padha,
00:09:30isni hi out ho gaya,
00:09:32lekin us waqt Shafiq ko,
00:09:34jo shot usne khela hai,
00:09:36mein aisaab se toh,
00:09:38nikal dena chahiye,
00:09:40pinch utha ke bhai,
00:09:42tumko kya problem ho rahi hai?
00:09:44uswaqt Shafiq ko,
00:09:46jo shot usne khela hai,
00:09:48mein aisaab se toh,
00:09:50nikal dena chahiye,
00:09:52jo batsman hai shuru ke,
00:09:54wo fast bowlers par shot khelte hain,
00:09:56accha Babar Azam ke hawale se,
00:09:58mein aap chahunga,
00:10:00is nokte par bhi ek comment karein,
00:10:02soft dismissals ab unke bharte chale jaa rahe hain,
00:10:04yani ke bade player ke saath aisa nahi hota,
00:10:06ke wo itna aasani se aur is tarike se,
00:10:08aur apne genuine shot ko,
00:10:10cover drive jo unke favourite shot hai,
00:10:12wo khelte hain is tarah se bold hun,
00:10:14aur is tarah ke iske alawa bhi,
00:10:16jo soft dismissals hain,
00:10:18phir doosra yeh hai,
00:10:20Shahan ka tazkara kiya,
00:10:22Abdullah Shafiq ka tazkara kiya,
00:10:24mein yehi arz karna chahata hai,
00:10:26game awareness ki hum badi baatein karte hain,
00:10:28yeh toh gali mahale ke cricketers ko aati hain,
00:10:30inko kyu nahi aati?
00:10:32seki yeh mai wohi wali baat kar raha hun,
00:10:34abhi cricket acchi na khel ke,
00:10:36chairman sahab kar rahe hain,
00:10:38aur iske alawa chairman sahab kar rahe hain,
00:10:40ke jo hai wo,
00:10:42aap jo hai na,
00:10:44hum dekh rahe hain,
00:10:46inside kya kuch ho raha hai,
00:10:48iska dekhne ka faida nahi hain,
00:10:50sabko malo mein kya ho,
00:10:52kya cheez hai, kya nahi hain,
00:10:54sabko malo mein kya cheez ho rahe hain,
00:10:56aur usme koi,
00:10:58main nahi samajhta,
00:11:00koi wo cheez humein nazar aati hai,
00:11:02straight forward baat kya hai,
00:11:04Babar ke aapne baat,
00:11:06ab tak toh wo,
00:11:08jis tarah bhi tab bata rahe hain log,
00:11:10jis tarah narans kar rahe hain,
00:11:12wo apni jagah theek hain,
00:11:14wo inside cho cheez hain na,
00:11:16aur,
00:11:18matlab baat time bhi theek hain,
00:11:20Tauseef sahab, iska ek subhoot yeh bhi hai na,
00:11:22ke abhi bade, thode dino pehle,
00:11:24toh usse pehle surgery ka alaan hua,
00:11:26wo humne dekha, wo kis kasim ki surgery hui hai,
00:11:28phir Waqar Yunus sahab ko,
00:11:30baqaida mentor ke taur par team mein
00:11:32include kiya gaya,
00:11:34ke wo team ke khiladi mentor ke taur par
00:11:36kaam karenge,
00:11:38aur aapko pata hai, humne Champions Trophy khelni hai,
00:11:40agle saal,
00:11:42aap khabar yeh aa rahi hai,
00:11:44ab unki jagah kisi aur ko lai jaayega,
00:11:46aur, kuch log, kuch officers kehlein,
00:11:48PCB se tale ka,
00:11:50jo unse taawun nahi kar rahe the,
00:11:52so,
00:11:54yeh dekh lein, ki yeh surat-e-haal,
00:11:56jo humne nazar aa rahi hai,
00:11:58I mean, aap sochein ki is waqt,
00:12:00Bangladesh, just imagine,
00:12:02what they are going through,
00:12:04kitna turmoil hai,
00:12:06political turmoil wahan par dekh lein,
00:12:08wahan par kya surat-e-haal rahi,
00:12:10Shaqib-ul-Hassan ke hawale se aap dekh lein,
00:12:12but, uske baujood, they played as a unit,
00:12:14aur unhone apni qaum ko ek tarah se tofah diya,
00:12:1623 saal baad,
00:12:18aur Pakistan me,
00:12:20yeh Pakistan koi tarah se harana hai,
00:12:22aapne bhikur sahi kaha, ke Haseena Wajid nahi hai,
00:12:24headlines banti,
00:12:26ab bhi bani hongi,
00:12:28lekin, uska narrative aur perspective,
00:12:30different hoga,
00:12:32lekin, hiraan hai,
00:12:34milage uthati hai,
00:12:36you know, because of the history,
00:12:38lekin, yeh jo humari team me ho raha hai,
00:12:41ab bhi toh,
00:12:43administration me log change kar lein,
00:12:45management me log change kar lein,
00:12:47lekin, what about the players?
00:12:49Players ke upar haath daalte ve,
00:12:51hum yeh sochte hain,
00:12:53yeh toh humare core players hain,
00:12:55I am not sure,
00:12:57lekin, Azhar Mehmood se mansoop bayaan chal raha tha,
00:12:59humare paas itna talent nahi hai,
00:13:01isi wajah se humari hain,
00:13:03isi pitches kariyaar ki jaati hain,
00:13:05so, talent toh,
00:13:07wo polish karna hota hai,
00:13:09pitch ko aapne groom karna hota hai,
00:13:11I don't get these statements,
00:13:13aur dusra yahaan par,
00:13:15silsala pata hai kya,
00:13:17waqt se pehle bohot zyada nawaz dena,
00:13:19deals, brand endorsements,
00:13:21aapne crorepati, aratpati bana diya players ko,
00:13:23wahaan par deal aapki kya ho rahi hai,
00:13:25central contract me itne paise honge,
00:13:27PCB ki aamdan se bhi in logon ko paise milenge,
00:13:29I mean, look how they performed in the World Cup,
00:13:31in all the different games that they have played,
00:13:33phir hum rahi sahi Kasar yahaan par rahi gayi thi,
00:13:35wo Mangladesh ne poori kar di,
00:13:37Tauseef sahab hai humare saath?
00:13:39Tauseef sahab,
00:13:41yeh jo Waqar Units wala maamla hai,
00:13:43yeh bhi humein yeh hi batara hai,
00:13:45andar bohot kuch kharab hai,
00:13:47gadbad hai,
00:13:49unke aane se pehle,
00:13:51yeh khabre aa rahi hai,
00:13:53unse cooperate nahi kiya jaara tha,
00:13:55wo as a mentor jo hai,
00:13:57apne shayad faraiz anjaam na de,
00:13:59unki jagah koi aur aa jaye,
00:14:01so, yeh sab,
00:14:03agar, khud PCB chairman kehna hai,
00:14:05chairman nahi kharna hai,
00:14:07aur raha rahe ke ab yeh time mein,
00:14:09yeh cheezein saamne aana,
00:14:11ke Waqar sahab ko announce pehle se kar dena,
00:14:13aur uske baad unko post bhi de dena,
00:14:15aur,
00:14:17saari kuchein settle ho jana,
00:14:19aur yaka yaka kiya aati hai,
00:14:21kabar ki ji,
00:14:23unko nahi rak raha hai,
00:14:25aur isi istara unke saath koi,
00:14:27yeh to chairman ko,
00:14:29chairman deke aaye na,
00:14:31unko kuchana chahiye,
00:14:33unke saath cooperate nahi khar raha hai,
00:14:35aap chahari hai, mai tafa to aa chukein,
00:14:37PCB hain,
00:14:39aapko har cheez ka pata hai kya nahi,
00:14:41ab aap kis liyein,
00:14:43yeh jo team banayi gayi hai,
00:14:45isme pe aapka haath hai,
00:14:47kya nahi,
00:14:49mera dhikhaal hai,
00:14:51definitely,
00:14:53jo hai,
00:14:55jo log bhi hai,
00:14:57agar unka input bhi ispe aisa hi hai,
00:14:59so, I am sorry to say,
00:15:01aapka tajarba bekar hai,
00:15:03aur,
00:15:05jis pitch pe,
00:15:07doosri team hain,
00:15:09aapko spinner se leke chali jati hain,
00:15:11aap cha chaar fast bowler,
00:15:13apni country mein kalaate hain,
00:15:15aur aapko yahi nahi pata hai,
00:15:17kya hua excuse de rahe hain,
00:15:19jo isi tarah,
00:15:21aap samajh hi nahi sakta,
00:15:23yeh kya excuse de rahe hain,
00:15:25ki wo aisa ho gaya,
00:15:27kuch din nahi khaana chahiye tha,
00:15:29it means ki aapne easy diya tarah,
00:15:31aap karte hain,
00:15:33paanch bhi din tak,
00:15:35hum toh tohch bhi nahi rahe the,
00:15:37bhai toss ko agar aap haar bhi gaye,
00:15:39toh aap apne,
00:15:41body language toh,
00:15:43baad toh saare bowler gir gaye the,
00:15:45toh aap khud dekh lein,
00:15:47aur mai,
00:15:49sach bol raho ham,
00:15:51jo aapne police se mai baat kar rahe hain,
00:15:53agar Bangladesh 100,
00:15:55ya uspe upar koi lead le gaya,
00:15:57so that's what happened,
00:15:59chalein,
00:16:01thank you so much Tausif Ahmed sahab,
00:16:03humare saath mehman maujood hain,
00:16:05wa zahir hai iss aaham issue par baat karne ke liye,
00:16:07expert aur project head,
00:16:09National Incubation Centre Karachi,
00:16:11Syed Asfar Hussain,
00:16:13thank you so much for joining us,
00:16:15aur isi tariqah se humein join kar rahe hain,
00:16:17IT expert aur Sabra,
00:16:19Governor's in IT course,
00:16:21Daniyal Nagori,
00:16:23Daniyal thank you so much for joining us,
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00:24:52Obviously, for that too, digital...
00:24:54Let's talk about Paypal.
00:24:56We don't have it yet.
00:24:58Over the years, we have been hearing about it.
00:25:00Apart from Paypal, there is another
00:25:02Payneer and other platforms.
00:25:04That is not specific.
00:25:06Because of which, obviously, people are having problems.
00:25:08Because of its rates,
00:25:10people want Paypal to come to Pakistan.
00:25:12But it's not like
00:25:14there are no digital payment platforms in Pakistan.
00:25:16People are still doing transactions
00:25:18in software houses.
00:25:20But that's not easy for them.
00:25:22It's comparatively difficult.
00:25:24We have been hearing about Paypal since childhood,
00:25:26but that hasn't happened here.
00:25:28Instead, people are using other platforms.
00:25:30In this, it is also important to see
00:25:32how ready is the company itself to come to Pakistan.
00:25:34We should also look at this angle.
00:25:36And why is it not ready?
00:25:38We should also look at this.
00:25:40Because a lot of times,
00:25:42we blame things,
00:25:44but who knows,
00:25:46they decide based on the market.
00:25:48It's not necessary that
00:25:50only in Pakistan,
00:25:52they don't see the potential.
00:25:54Who knows, there are other reasons.
00:25:56If there is an incident
00:25:58related to national security,
00:26:00we talk about one thing.
00:26:02There should be coordination,
00:26:04communication, and an institution
00:26:06that can do it.
00:26:08For example, we had an institution
00:26:10to find out what is happening.
00:26:12This IT issue,
00:26:14you are working on it.
00:26:16There will be other individuals
00:26:18who are working with their institutions.
00:26:20Is there a coordination?
00:26:22Do you guys talk to each other
00:26:24about what needs to be done?
00:26:26What message should we communicate to the government?
00:26:28Mr. Daniyal,
00:26:30I would like to ask you first.
00:26:34Daniyal, are you with us?
00:26:36Sorry, can you repeat your question?
00:26:38Sorry.
00:26:40Basically, I wanted to know
00:26:42that there should be a flow
00:26:44and coordination
00:26:46between different institutions
00:26:48and individuals.
00:26:50For example,
00:26:52we have an institution
00:26:54where a lot of information is passed on
00:26:56from one institution to another.
00:26:58Mr. Asfar is working here.
00:27:00There are other individuals
00:27:02who are working here.
00:27:04Do you guys have a connection?
00:27:06Do you guys give recommendations
00:27:08to the government?
00:27:10No,
00:27:12there is no such platform available.
00:27:14But definitely,
00:27:16I stay connected with individuals.
00:27:18As I told you,
00:27:20there were internet slowdown issues.
00:27:22I spoke to some officials yesterday.
00:27:24They told us that these issues will be resolved
00:27:26within a week.
00:27:28Mr. Daniyal, one last thing.
00:27:30First of all,
00:27:32our curriculum is very outdated
00:27:34in terms of technology.
00:27:36How can we upgrade it?
00:27:38The easiest way is
00:27:40to let people,
00:27:42especially children, discover.
00:27:44This time,
00:27:46there is a lot of content on YouTube.
00:27:48There is a lot of content in Urdu
00:27:50to learn.
00:27:52Schools and parents should be allowed
00:27:54to let children discover.
00:27:56There can be safe browsing
00:27:58for small children who can learn.
00:28:00Your first question
00:28:02was about
00:28:04representative body,
00:28:06freelancers,
00:28:08and other institutions
00:28:10who work with the private sector.
00:28:12We talk to each other.
00:28:14We meet each other.
00:28:16Similarly, Pakistan Digital Authority
00:28:18is also being established.
00:28:20Different ministries
00:28:22will work with the Ministry of IT.
00:28:24There is a lot of cohesiveness
00:28:26between us.
00:28:28Obviously, we have to move forward
00:28:30considering the challenges of Pakistan.
00:28:32But we do talk to each other.
00:28:34Challenges should be overcome.
00:28:36Thank you so much, Sayyed Asghar Hussain
00:28:38and Mr. Daniyal for being with us.
00:28:40In the name of Allah,
00:28:42Peace be upon you.
00:28:44Once again,
00:28:46your program,
00:28:48Baakhabar Savera,
00:28:50is in full swing.
00:28:52I hope you will be fine.
00:28:54I am Ashfaq Ishaq Sati.
00:28:56I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar.
00:28:58Once again.
00:29:00A while ago,
00:29:02you were chatting with us.
00:29:04I hope that didn't affect you.
00:29:06You are still in the same zone.
00:29:08I can't describe that person.
00:29:10You can.
00:29:12Then I will say that I don't know him.
00:29:14I don't know him.
00:29:16After that, the camera will be cut.
00:29:18Who is he related to?
00:29:20Time will tell.
00:29:22We are going to start this segment.
00:29:24We have an hour at 10 pm.
00:29:26If you miss it,
00:29:28you can see us on Facebook.
00:29:30Our Facebook page is Baakhabar Savera.
00:29:32We are also on Xapp.
00:29:34We are on Xapp,
00:29:36but we need to be more active.
00:29:38If you say, this message will reach.
00:29:40Keep reminding them.
00:29:42You can see us on repeat at 4 pm.
00:29:44The topic I am going to start with,
00:29:46you remember from the last few days,
00:29:48all the videos came out.
00:29:50The details of all the things come out.
00:29:52This happened, that happened.
00:29:54Our first line of defense,
00:29:56our police officers,
00:29:58while playing on the streets,
00:30:00while fulfilling their duties,
00:30:02raw dacoits martyred 12 police officers.
00:30:04When this news came to us,
00:30:06in what circumstances,
00:30:08how they gave their lives,
00:30:10it was very sad.
00:30:12Because they kept waiting for a long time.
00:30:14First, rockets were fired on their vehicles.
00:30:16And when they kept waiting
00:30:18that they would be rescued,
00:30:20we saw that it took them an hour,
00:30:22an hour and a half to rescue them.
00:30:24And by the time help reached them,
00:30:26many of our soldiers,
00:30:28police officers, were no more.
00:30:30And you think,
00:30:32when we reported this incident,
00:30:34before that, a video of them came out,
00:30:36in which they were talking to each other,
00:30:38that we are trapped here.
00:30:40One officer started crying.
00:30:42Then the rest said,
00:30:44what if this is not our last video.
00:30:46And after that, they were attacked.
00:30:48And you see, they were fired
00:30:50from rocket launchers.
00:30:52This is that video.
00:30:54How much effort they must have made,
00:30:56from where they can get help,
00:30:58to reach the concerned people.
00:31:00What must have been going on
00:31:02with their families.
00:31:04And in the situation,
00:31:06they are going to compete.
00:31:08I am surprised that they were given
00:31:10those weapons.
00:31:12They should have been transported
00:31:14by armored vehicles.
00:31:16It is very easy to hide in the bushes
00:31:18and attack from there.
00:31:20But as we have mentioned before,
00:31:22these leaders,
00:31:24they facilitate
00:31:26these people a lot.
00:31:28Because these people are useful to them.
00:31:30And when they become a part of the government,
00:31:32then the government becomes helpless.
00:31:34Ashfaq, tell me one thing.
00:31:36Pakistan, which fought terrorism
00:31:38in a great way.
00:31:40How many lives have we lost in this?
00:31:42How much has our economy suffered?
00:31:44Pakistan has suffered the most
00:31:46in war and terror.
00:31:48But despite this, Pakistan has also
00:31:50suffered.
00:31:52Let's talk about the operation in Swat.
00:31:54Let's talk about the operations in Waziristan.
00:31:56And a very big issue in Karachi
00:31:58was Amno Aman.
00:32:00Everywhere we used to see Kati Pahadi,
00:32:02this area, etc. gang war.
00:32:04How did we control it?
00:32:06But these raw dacoits.
00:32:08I have been doing this show for 1.5 years.
00:32:10I always listen to this.
00:32:12The operation that will happen now.
00:32:14That will definitely happen.
00:32:16But every time we are told
00:32:18that the dacoits are ahead of us.
00:32:20The dacoits have new technology, new weapons.
00:32:22And they also release their videos.
00:32:24So they are not even afraid
00:32:26that they will be traced.
00:32:28One more thing happened.
00:32:30The price of dacoits has increased.
00:32:32And in Faris, the number one dacoit
00:32:34Shahid Nand was objected.
00:32:36So he called the Punjab court
00:32:38and objected that why did he put my name
00:32:40on the first number in Faris?
00:32:42And then he also suggested that
00:32:44the dacoits who have killed
00:32:46the police officers,
00:32:48put their names on the first number.
00:32:50So you can guess what is happening.
00:32:54On the request of the people,
00:32:56I made a post of Punjab's dacoits
00:32:58and some Sindh's dacoits.
00:33:00And then gave the number.
00:33:02I told them about the reward.
00:33:04One crore rupees.
00:33:06I contacted that number
00:33:08to see what they say.
00:33:10Who are you talking about?
00:33:12Naik Mada Khilama.
00:33:14I am from Rajanpur district.
00:33:16I am talking to Shahid Nand Baloch.
00:33:20Sir, you have run a post
00:33:22of about 20 dacoits.
00:33:24So you have given
00:33:26rewards to them.
00:33:30So the real criminals
00:33:32who have been martyred,
00:33:34they don't even have
00:33:36one or two names.
00:33:38So you have put the names
00:33:40of Punjab's people.
00:33:42These are their names.
00:33:44Yes, sir.
00:33:46If you know them,
00:33:48then tell me.
00:33:50How can you put the price
00:33:52of someone's head?
00:33:54If you have so much money,
00:33:56then distribute it among the poor.
00:33:58Why are you doing this?
00:34:00The confidence with which
00:34:02he is talking on the phone.
00:34:04We are told that
00:34:06a lot is traced from the mobile.
00:34:08Your location is traced.
00:34:10Why have you put my name?
00:34:12You see,
00:34:14where there is no accessible place,
00:34:16then why are there drones?
00:34:18Now there are many
00:34:20equipped and less
00:34:22drones can be used.
00:34:24There are many things
00:34:26that can be done.
00:34:28When we were talking about the rescue,
00:34:30we were told about the air ambulance.
00:34:32Why can't we save the passengers
00:34:34through a helicopter?
00:34:36Isn't it our priority
00:34:38to save their lives?
00:34:40We have to be careful.
00:34:42Yasir Sheikh is joining us.
00:34:44Let's talk to him first.
00:34:46Lala Asad has also joined us.
00:34:48Lala Asad Pathan has also joined us.
00:34:50Yasir Sheikh,
00:34:52I would like to talk to you first.
00:34:54Please tell us,
00:34:56what is this?
00:34:58Sadaf has also said
00:35:00that this has been going on
00:35:02for the past 5-6 years.
00:35:04Why can't they earn money?
00:35:06Look at their confidence level.
00:35:08With their faces,
00:35:10they are calling and saying
00:35:12that they have put their name
00:35:14in the wrong list.
00:35:16Where does this confidence come from?
00:35:24Yes, Yasir.
00:35:26Yasir Sheikh, can you hear me?
00:35:28I don't think so.
00:35:32Lala Asad Pathan, can you hear us?
00:35:36Meanwhile,
00:35:38let's try to connect
00:35:40with Yasir.
00:35:44The problem here is
00:35:46that all the social media platforms
00:35:48are full of their videos.
00:35:50They are using these platforms
00:35:52very easily.
00:35:54But it has become difficult to catch them.
00:35:56Lala Asad Pathan has joined us.
00:35:58Lala, tell us,
00:36:00you used to be very optimistic
00:36:02about this.
00:36:04You used to think that
00:36:06something will happen this time.
00:36:08But nothing ever happened.
00:36:10They were always one step ahead.
00:36:12Now their confidence level
00:36:14has reached the point
00:36:16where they call the police
00:36:18whenever they want.
00:36:20What is happening?
00:36:22Look,
00:36:24if your police
00:36:26becomes helpless,
00:36:28then this is what happens.
00:36:30They attack
00:36:32people
00:36:34who are in the hands of the police.
00:36:36This is what is happening.
00:36:38Especially,
00:36:40on the border of Sindh and Punjab,
00:36:42these dacoits,
00:36:44whose numbers are
00:36:46between 1.5 to 200,
00:36:48they are...
00:36:52Lala, we will try to connect you again.
00:36:54There is some problem
00:36:56with the connection.
00:36:58Yasir Sheikh,
00:37:00tell us,
00:37:02about a year ago,
00:37:04there was an operation
00:37:06in which we spoke to the IJP of Sindh,
00:37:08and the IJP of Punjab.
00:37:10We cramped them
00:37:12and didn't give them a chance to escape.
00:37:14Later, we came to know
00:37:16that those people,
00:37:18who become a part of the government,
00:37:20they are the ones who are persecuted.
00:37:22And because of this,
00:37:24there is no action against them.
00:37:26What is the reality?
00:37:28Look, Shoaib, it is a pity,
00:37:30no matter how much we try,
00:37:32that Pakistan, as a state,
00:37:34should respond as strongly as possible
00:37:36to our institutions.
00:37:38The area of Kaccha has been
00:37:40left as a joke.
00:37:42And listening to the stories
00:37:44and stories of the area of Kaccha,
00:37:46two generations of Pakistan have grown up.
00:37:48But the reality is that
00:37:50those dacoits from Punjab, Kaccha
00:37:52or Sindh,
00:37:54are so unimportant,
00:37:56so serious,
00:37:58and so ill-planned,
00:38:00that there is no history
00:38:02of it.
00:38:04The reality is that,
00:38:06the dacoits of Kaccha,
00:38:08have been operating here
00:38:10for three decades.
00:38:12Their third generation,
00:38:14if we call it their profession,
00:38:16they are already in that profession.
00:38:18After some time,
00:38:20when you face a big loss,
00:38:22whether it is from the police or civilians,
00:38:24or from a powerful political personality,
00:38:26then an operation is initiated.
00:38:28But that too,
00:38:30based on such lies,
00:38:32so far away from the ground realities,
00:38:34an operation is initiated.
00:38:36As a result of which,
00:38:38in the next few seconds,
00:38:40you and I, I think,
00:38:42I remember in my career as a journalist,
00:38:4435 or 40 times,
00:38:46I have spoken to you on this topic.
00:38:48Before this, 30-35 times,
00:38:50we have spoken on this topic.
00:38:52We will not resolve the fundamental issues
00:38:54until a secret police department,
00:38:56two years ago,
00:38:58released a report in Pakistan,
00:39:00in which it was identified
00:39:02which police officers
00:39:04from Punjab and Sindh,
00:39:06who are of SDPO level,
00:39:08SHO level, sub-inspector level,
00:39:10who are actually
00:39:12on the feet of dacoits of Kaccha,
00:39:14they are actually
00:39:16wearing police uniforms,
00:39:18and are actually dacoits.
00:39:20They play the role of farmers.
00:39:22And about them,
00:39:24the report was released.
00:39:26Now, this is a nexus.
00:39:28It is necessary to understand this nexus, Ishfaq,
00:39:30that the political MPAs
00:39:32on the belt of Punjab and Sindh,
00:39:34the MPAs, MNAs,
00:39:36who later,
00:39:38whoever has a strong party,
00:39:40sometimes you will find them
00:39:42in Tariq-e-Insaaf, sometimes in Pakistan-Muslim Nawaz,
00:39:44and sometimes you will see them
00:39:46as puppets of the PIPAS party.
00:39:48They stick to the form of power.
00:39:50This is the nexus of the dacoits of Kaccha,
00:39:52of the political people,
00:39:54and of the police.
00:39:56Entirely internal.
00:39:58This is the nexus
00:40:00of people's lives.
00:40:02What has happened in Azaab?
00:40:04In this whole region,
00:40:06if I tell you,
00:40:08big business activities
00:40:10have been stopped
00:40:12only because of the fear of dacoits of Kaccha.
00:40:14No one here can openly invest,
00:40:16and if someone is attacked from outside,
00:40:18they are threatened by dacoits of Kaccha.
00:40:20What has happened to that report?
00:40:22Yasir, this report,
00:40:24in which so many eyewitnesses have been exposed,
00:40:26what has been made of it?
00:40:28Because we are always told
00:40:30that there will be a grand operation.
00:40:32The preparations are not good here,
00:40:34but I would like to know from the point of view of Punjab,
00:40:36is the area of Rajanpur
00:40:38so difficult to operate there
00:40:40as we are told about the situation in Sindh?
00:40:42Look, Sadaf,
00:40:44what will happen?
00:40:46What has happened in the past
00:40:48is that in that report,
00:40:50the political leadership
00:40:52that is obtained,
00:40:54as I said,
00:40:56the political personalities
00:40:58of Sindh and Punjab,
00:41:00for their own purposes,
00:41:02to put their political influence
00:41:04in the region,
00:41:06these dacoits are the leaders.
00:41:08And that report,
00:41:10which you are talking about,
00:41:12a lot of people from that report
00:41:14are still in the police department.
00:41:16And look at the state of non-seriousness
00:41:18of the police department.
00:41:20This Chotu,
00:41:22who has a big name
00:41:24of the Chotu gang,
00:41:26his leader Chotu,
00:41:28who is in jail at the moment,
00:41:30more than 80% of the cases
00:41:32against him have been acquitted.
00:41:34Because of non-evidence,
00:41:36there is no proper prosecution
00:41:38Now, as a judge,
00:41:40it is difficult
00:41:42because when you do not give
00:41:44evidence,
00:41:46when you do not even
00:41:48correct the prosecution,
00:41:50then the judge has no choice
00:41:52but to acquit him.
00:41:54There is no other way.
00:41:56So this is also a possibility.
00:41:58In the coming months and years,
00:42:00Chotu will again be acquitted
00:42:02and live like a common citizen.
00:42:04Okay, that seems to be the problem.
00:42:06This is another problem.
00:42:08Who can testify against him?
00:42:10Do we have Lala with us?
00:42:12Okay, not Lala.
00:42:14Tell us one more thing.
00:42:16These cases keep on going.
00:42:18But of course, we have other options.
00:42:20We have the options of the rangers.
00:42:22We can also get help from the Pak Army.
00:42:24Because the rangers are better equipped
00:42:26at handling such situations.
00:42:28And they will not have
00:42:30the problem of the informers.
00:42:32Of course, they will keep the police with them.
00:42:34But still, this can be done.
00:42:36We have done it in the past.
00:42:38Why are the rangers not allowed
00:42:40to take over these cases?
00:42:44Ishfaq, are you asking me?
00:42:46Yes, I am asking you.
00:42:48Look, the rangers
00:42:50are a supporting force.
00:42:52It is the responsibility
00:42:54of the government
00:42:56whether it is Sindhi or Punjab.
00:42:58When these departments
00:43:00keep on creating problems
00:43:02the rangers will not be able
00:43:04to face the rangers.
00:43:06This incident happened
00:43:08two days ago.
00:43:10His testimony
00:43:12is a huge loss.
00:43:14Of course,
00:43:16he was the son of this country.
00:43:18He was killed in this country.
00:43:20But he is innocent.
00:43:22Yasir, do you remember
00:43:24the announcement
00:43:26that they will be forgiven
00:43:28if they come to the main stream?
00:43:30This has become a more profitable
00:43:32profession for them.
00:43:34They are not afraid of anyone.
00:43:36Despite this,
00:43:38when it comes to action,
00:43:40the police are put forward
00:43:42who are ill-equipped
00:43:44and who do not have weapons.
00:43:46They are not even able
00:43:48to reach the main stream.
00:43:50Now, the grand operation
00:43:52is just to show off.
00:43:54Did you see
00:43:56any success?
00:43:58Sadaf,
00:44:00let me tell you about the success.
00:44:02Recently,
00:44:04Ahmed Nawaz,
00:44:06a police officer,
00:44:08got the opportunity
00:44:10to release a high-criminal
00:44:12dacoit.
00:44:14This is a capability.
00:44:16What I am saying,
00:44:18Sadaf,
00:44:20God willing,
00:44:22until the nexus of
00:44:24political personalities
00:44:26is established,
00:44:28they go to the government
00:44:30and blackmail the government
00:44:32by saying,
00:44:34please forgive them
00:44:36and they will come back
00:44:38as common citizens
00:44:40and handover some assets to you.
00:44:42And every political party
00:44:44that has been in power
00:44:46is basically just
00:44:48to show off.
00:44:50All the government
00:44:52that has been in Punjab
00:44:54is basically just
00:44:56to show off.
00:45:04Basically, this nexus
00:45:06needs to be broken.
00:45:08Until this nexus is not broken,
00:45:10there will be no result.
00:45:12Now, whenever
00:45:14a Pakistani army is present
00:45:16in that area,
00:45:18it will come
00:45:20on the call of the provincial government.
00:45:22It will come on the call
00:45:24of the provincial government.
00:45:26But when the area is cleared
00:45:28and handed over to the Punjab police
00:45:30or the Sindh police,
00:45:32then the nexus is activated
00:45:34again.
00:45:40We wanted to talk to
00:45:42Alasad Pathan about this.
00:45:44The report has come out
00:45:46and it has been told
00:45:48what the core issue is
00:45:50and who the facilitators are.
00:45:52We are talking about the facilitators.
00:45:54What is hidden behind this?
00:45:56We are talking about the facilitators.
00:45:58You know who the facilitators are,
00:46:00so why don't you work on it?
00:46:02The other day,
00:46:04when you do online shopping,
00:46:06you get messages from the
00:46:08courier companies
00:46:10about the time
00:46:12of delivery.
00:46:14They also give the rider's number.
00:46:16The other day,
00:46:18we got a lot of messages
00:46:20saying,
00:46:22kindly update your delivery address
00:46:24within the next 12 hours.
00:46:26Otherwise, we will have to
00:46:28proceed with returning the product.
00:46:30Let's say you have ordered online
00:46:32and you get a message
00:46:34with a link below.
00:46:36If you click that link,
00:46:38it takes you to a portal
00:46:40or interface where
00:46:42you are asked for details
00:46:44about the parcel,
00:46:46delivery address,
00:46:48card details,
00:46:50and OTP.
00:46:52Some people
00:46:54get fooled by this.
00:46:56What happens then?
00:46:58They lose a lot of money.
00:47:00Sometimes, when you click
00:47:02the link,
00:47:04your phone gets hacked.
00:47:06There are different ways
00:47:08to scam people.
00:47:10What can be done?
00:47:12There is a network
00:47:14from Dubai.
00:47:16These numbers
00:47:18show the numbers of Pakistan.
00:47:20You can guess
00:47:22that these messages are coming
00:47:24continuously.
00:47:26This is a new type of scam.
00:47:28Let's say
00:47:30you open the link.
00:47:32You can get a lot of information
00:47:34and user data.
00:47:36You can also get the details
00:47:38of your card.
00:47:40The same thing happened
00:47:42with this person.
00:47:44Thankfully,
00:47:46his card didn't have
00:47:48that amount.
00:47:50I would like to request you
00:47:52to go to a restaurant
00:47:54where you pay
00:47:56the bill
00:47:58or pay cash
00:48:00after doing the grocery.
00:48:02Whenever you go to a restaurant
00:48:04or petrol station,
00:48:06don't give your card
00:48:08to anyone.
00:48:10Don't give your card to an
00:48:12ancient machine because
00:48:14it is wireless.
00:48:16When you give your card to
00:48:18someone,
00:48:20along with your card number,
00:48:22he can do transactions
00:48:24later.
00:48:26This is also a big scam.
00:48:28When he goes to a petrol station,
00:48:30he can easily note it down.
00:48:32When he goes to a restaurant,
00:48:34he can give his card
00:48:36to someone.
00:48:38Be very mindful.
00:48:40This is also used in scams.
00:48:42Don't do this.
00:48:44Don't give your card to someone.
00:48:46Ask them to go with you.
00:48:48If I have to pay the bill,
00:48:50I go with them
00:48:52and give my card to them.
00:48:54This is a very good advice.
00:48:56You must also do this.
00:48:58People take your card
00:49:00and leave.
00:49:02All they need to do is
00:49:04your card number and CVV.
00:49:06You are also advised
00:49:08by your bank
00:49:10not to give your
00:49:12pin code or card number
00:49:14to anyone.
00:49:16Even if you talk
00:49:18as a bank representative,
00:49:20you must not give your card number.
00:49:22Now let's talk about
00:49:24all the issues,
00:49:26especially the new scam
00:49:28that people are getting through SMS.
00:49:30How to control it?
00:49:32Expert Deputy Director
00:49:34of Cybercrime Bank,
00:49:36Asif Iqbal Chaudhary
00:49:38Thank you so much for joining us.
00:49:40The new method of fraud
00:49:42is being told from Dubai
00:49:44but the number is Pakistani.
00:49:46How many people have complained
00:49:48and where is the network
00:49:50actually working from?
00:49:52The complaints
00:49:54have started
00:49:56coming from
00:49:58all over Pakistan.
00:50:00But the issue is
00:50:02people can be told
00:50:04through awareness
00:50:06that this type of message
00:50:08used to be done
00:50:10through shopping
00:50:12through websites.
00:50:14But now
00:50:16they have introduced
00:50:18a new scheme
00:50:20where a link is sent
00:50:22and a form is opened
00:50:24after clicking on that link.
00:50:26When you fill that form,
00:50:28the basic aim is to fill the form
00:50:30and then your card
00:50:32and your bank account
00:50:34can be accessed.
00:50:36When you enter your bank account
00:50:38CVV and card number
00:50:40for Rs. 70-80
00:50:42or Rs. 150
00:50:44it goes to the fraudsters.
00:50:46Then the amount
00:50:48you enter for Rs. 70-80 or Rs. 150
00:50:50that amount
00:50:52doesn't go there.
00:50:54It can be 10 lakhs
00:50:56or 20 lakhs.
00:50:58When people
00:51:00enter their money
00:51:02in their bank account
00:51:04they get all the details of the account.
00:51:06This is basically
00:51:08data copying
00:51:10or data hacking.
00:51:12You can give someone
00:51:14your bank account data.
00:51:16This is for your users.
00:51:18I was saying
00:51:20for example,
00:51:22at the petrol pump
00:51:24or grocery store
00:51:26when we go
00:51:28to a restaurant
00:51:30you are sitting there
00:51:32you pay the bill
00:51:34you give the card
00:51:36they can note down your CVV
00:51:38and then proceed.
00:51:40It doesn't happen often
00:51:42but it can happen.
00:51:44Same happens at the petrol pump
00:51:46where they give the card
00:51:48which is visible to you.
00:51:50Should the banks
00:51:52come up with a strategy
00:51:54No, they don't.
00:51:56The most important thing
00:51:58in this is
00:52:00awareness of people.
00:52:02Like you were saying
00:52:04people are caught
00:52:06sitting at a table
00:52:08and the cashier
00:52:10is arrested
00:52:12for scamming the card
00:52:14and stealing the data.
00:52:16Before there were duplicate cards
00:52:18but now the data is used on websites.
00:52:20You must have heard
00:52:22that the credit cards
00:52:24have their data available.
00:52:26This is how it is stolen.
00:52:28Either at the petrol pump
00:52:30or at the grocery store.
00:52:32Thirdly,
00:52:34you are being messaged
00:52:36and your information
00:52:38is taken from you.
00:52:40This is the data
00:52:42that the user gives them.
00:52:44You need to care
00:52:46that you swipe the data
00:52:48and don't click such links.
00:52:50Otherwise,
00:52:52you won't be able to enter
00:52:54your data.
00:52:56Mr. Asif,
00:52:58if Sadaf is shopping online
00:53:00or I am shopping online
00:53:02is it a coincidence
00:53:04that we get a message
00:53:06when we are anticipating
00:53:08our parcel?
00:53:10Does this mean
00:53:12that our information
00:53:14is being leaked?
00:53:16Yes, it happens.
00:53:18Whenever you want
00:53:20to shop,
00:53:22go to the websites
00:53:24that are
00:53:26recognized by the shopping malls.
00:53:28We often do this
00:53:30that we shop from
00:53:32Facebook pages
00:53:34or other social media
00:53:36pages
00:53:38that are made by fraudsters.
00:53:40We shop through them.
00:53:42Your data
00:53:44is taken from them
00:53:46and then misused.
00:53:48This is very concerning
00:53:50because they are not asking
00:53:52your card number directly.
00:53:54They are asking you to update
00:53:56your home address.
00:53:58Can a bank help us?
00:54:00Debit card is dangerous
00:54:02but if you can use
00:54:04credit card,
00:54:06is it much safer
00:54:08than debit card?
00:54:10Can you get the money
00:54:12if you lose it?
00:54:14Both credit cards
00:54:16are safe
00:54:18if you use them
00:54:20safely.
00:54:22There are two types
00:54:24of information
00:54:26in your ATM.
00:54:28You must have seen
00:54:30the data of track 1 and track 2.
00:54:32Customer details,
00:54:34name, CNIC,
00:54:36address,
00:54:38bank account details
00:54:40are given on the other side.
00:54:42Your data is written
00:54:44on the card strip.
00:54:46If it is swiped
00:54:48from somewhere,
00:54:50the data can be easily copied from there.
00:54:52Secondly,
00:54:54if someone is frauded,
00:54:56they can contact Cyber Crime Wing
00:54:58and they can deal
00:55:00in section 14 of PICA.
00:55:02Thank you so much
00:55:04Asif for being with us
00:55:06and talking to us.
00:55:08Please be mindful
00:55:10of your transactions.
00:55:12Don't go on any page
00:55:14that you find doubtful.
00:55:16Now, our favorite topic.
00:55:18Your favorite topic is
00:55:20politics.
00:55:22Politics is being discussed
00:55:24all over the country.
00:55:26You must have seen
00:55:28how much there was a storm
00:55:30on electricity.
00:55:32Maryam Nawaz Sahiba
00:55:34announced that people in Punjab
00:55:36are getting relief.
00:55:38She said,
00:55:40what a childish statement.
00:55:42We are in trouble.
00:55:44After that,
00:55:46there was a good news
00:55:48that Bilawal Bhutto
00:55:50and PM are going to meet
00:55:52and many issues will be discussed.
00:55:54Now, what happened
00:55:56after this meeting
00:55:58that a committee has been formed
00:56:00and both parties
00:56:02are discussing the issue.
00:56:04Tell me,
00:56:06I mean,
00:56:10these issues can be sorted
00:56:12and Arif Alvi
00:56:14has been appointed
00:56:16as the head of the committee.
00:56:18So, after the term of the president
00:56:20doesn't it take two years?
00:56:22This is a committee.
00:56:24So, do you think the president
00:56:26is a non-politician?
00:56:28I don't know.
00:56:30Let's talk about Punjab first.
00:56:32Both the parties
00:56:34are allies
00:56:36but they are accusing each other.
00:56:38PM has been
00:56:40making excuses
00:56:42to deceive the public.
00:56:44Now, let's see
00:56:46what this committee will do.
00:56:48As far as Ashfaq has said,
00:56:50Arif Alvi has been appointed
00:56:52as the head of the committee
00:56:54so that news about the party
00:56:56and especially
00:56:58since Maulana has announced
00:57:00this issue,
00:57:02we have with us
00:57:04Athar Kazmi.
00:57:06Athar Kazmi,
00:57:08the first basic question
00:57:10is what is happening
00:57:12on the political front?
00:57:14What should we do on the economic front?
00:57:16Security issues are different.
00:57:18Balochistan's situation is in front of everyone.
00:57:20Electricity issues are still there.
00:57:22Jamaat-e-Islami is still happy.
00:57:24What is happening?
00:57:26Obviously, you see a confusion
00:57:28and many issues
00:57:30but efforts are being made.
00:57:32We met Maulana Zardari.
00:57:34Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's
00:57:36delegation met Maulana Zardari.
00:57:38Arif Alvi is also active.
00:57:40Everyone is trying to
00:57:42gain as much political capital
00:57:44as possible.
00:57:46Unfortunately, the issues
00:57:48you pointed out,
00:57:50we don't see a solution in politics.
00:57:52In Punjab,
00:57:54the Pakistan People's Party
00:57:56and the Non-League meeting
00:57:58were not about money,
00:58:00inflation or electricity.
00:58:02They were about solving
00:58:04their own issues like
00:58:06how to do the posting transfer,
00:58:08who should get how much share.
00:58:10This is unfortunate.
00:58:12The unfortunate incidents
00:58:14that you have been reporting
00:58:16since morning,
00:58:18you will see that you won't
00:58:20see a political solution anywhere.
00:58:22People don't feel the need
00:58:24to sit and watch.
00:58:26Let's talk about this.
00:58:28The way you met,
00:58:30was the background
00:58:32only the announcement
00:58:34of electricity relief?
00:58:36Or was there a lot of discussion
00:58:38between Bilawal Bhutto and
00:58:40the Prime Minister?
00:58:42Between Bilawal Bhutto
00:58:44and the Prime Minister,
00:58:46there was a discussion
00:58:48about legislation.
00:58:50There was a discussion
00:58:52about Punjab.
00:58:54There was a follow-up meeting
00:58:56in Punjab.
00:58:58The complaint of the Pakistan
00:59:00People's Party in Punjab
00:59:02is that they should
00:59:04look after the people
00:59:06who are living there.
00:59:08As I said earlier,
00:59:10all these meetings
00:59:12were to look after
00:59:14their political interests.
00:59:16There was no discussion
00:59:18about electricity,
00:59:20inflation,
00:59:22but there was a discussion
00:59:24about their political interests.
00:59:26This is unfortunate.
00:59:28What seems to be the solution?
00:59:30I mean,
00:59:32what do you see happening?
00:59:34These are the issues
00:59:36that need to be focused on.
00:59:38Obviously, the people
00:59:40are in a state of helplessness.
00:59:42Think about the police officers.
00:59:44Their video was released.
00:59:46They are in a state of helplessness.
00:59:48They have been shot.
00:59:50In the name of democracy
00:59:52my number will be issued.
00:59:54You'll spend your entire life
00:59:56facing these issues.
00:59:58Take the case of Musa Khail
01:00:00in Baluchistan as an example.
01:00:02He was shot one by one.
01:00:04There were dozens of cars
01:00:06but none were safe.
01:00:08Whose side should we look on?
01:00:10This is a share incompetency.
01:00:12You have started a operation
01:00:14in an area where you
01:00:16should be providing
01:00:18They kept calling for help.
01:00:20Then after that you saw that the dacoits there
01:00:23they upload videos from there.
01:00:25In the whole country, social media is controlled.
01:00:28Things don't come on the media like that.
01:00:31We are seeing that the internet is slow.
01:00:33But the raw dacoits are constantly uploading videos from there.
01:00:37The internet is also working there.
01:00:38I also used to join you on the internet.
01:00:40Today the internet has a problem.
01:00:42Skype is also not working.
01:00:43But the videos of the raw dacoits are coming.
01:00:45So what are our priorities?
01:00:48What do we want to do?
01:00:50If you want to solve these problems
01:00:53then you need to hold a press conference for them.
01:00:55You need to hold a meeting for them.
01:00:56Have you ever heard that in the past one or two years
01:01:00there has been a disagreement on electricity prices
01:01:03or on expensive bills
01:01:05or on security issues?
01:01:07One more thing that Zahir-e-Sadaf raised
01:01:11and I am also concerned about
01:01:12is that two things are very common in our country.
01:01:14One is the commission and the other is the committees.
01:01:16Has there ever been a solution to these two things?
01:01:20You are absolutely right.
01:01:24When there is a solution to a problem
01:01:26then it becomes a committee.
01:01:28There are two types of committees.
01:01:30One committee is made for political issues.
01:01:33It is made to decide who gets what share in power.
01:01:37Those committees work very responsibly.
01:01:40You get your share.
01:01:43The other committee is made to solve the issues of the people
01:01:46or the issues of the nation.
01:01:49Whether it is reports, commissions or committees
01:01:52everyone knows that they never get a solution.
01:01:55They never have an agreement on that.
01:01:58So this is an unfortunate side of our politics.
01:02:01But this is nothing new.
01:02:02Athar, tell me one thing.
01:02:04Arif Almi has been given a new responsibility.
01:02:08He has to deal with negotiations and other issues.
01:02:11Why has he been chosen?
01:02:14The PTI issues, the Jalsa Multabi,
01:02:17the party discussions,
01:02:19Ali Ma Khan saying something,
01:02:21what is the reason for this special task?
01:02:25Sadaf, this is very important.
01:02:28There is no person in the Jamaat
01:02:32who can understand the issues
01:02:35or take the issues forward.
01:02:37You can see their failure.
01:02:40Barrister Gohar is the chairman.
01:02:43But he can't make any decisions.
01:02:46On the other hand, you have a government in a province.
01:02:49You see the government confused.
01:02:51The issue of Jalsa Mansukhi started from there.
01:02:54On one hand, Ali Amin was putting up videos
01:02:57that he was bringing directors and other things.
01:03:00On the other hand, he was saying that we will not hold Jalsa in the morning.
01:03:03So these are all issues.
01:03:05Imran Khan has said that Arif Alvi should be brought forward
01:03:08and he should look at the political issues.
01:03:10He should also engage with other people.
01:03:12You talk to Maulana about engagement.
01:03:14Tariq-e-Insaaf people go and meet.
01:03:16But the next day, Ali Amin Gandapur
01:03:18talks about Maulana.
01:03:21Because he is weak.
01:03:23So I think that Arif Alvi has been given a task
01:03:26to look at the political issues.
01:03:28Thank you so much, Athar Kazmi for being with us.
01:03:31Let's take a break.
01:03:33Where will this powerful system reach?
01:03:35How will it happen?
01:03:36Where will it rain?
01:03:37Chief Metrologist Shahid Abbas will tell us.
01:03:39Shahid Abbas, tell us.
01:03:41It is said that there is a rain emergency in Karachi.
01:03:43It is a powerful system.
01:03:44How powerful is it?
01:03:46The system that is entering the city from today
01:03:50is moving from New Bengal.
01:03:54We have been monitoring it for the past 5-6 days.
01:03:57It is raining quite well in the areas of India.
01:04:00And when it enters the areas of Karachi or Sindh,
01:04:04this system will pass from the areas of Pakistan
01:04:08for the next 3-4 days.
01:04:10In which the entire areas of Sindh,
01:04:12the Bahawalpur and DG Khan divisions of South Punjab,
01:04:16apart from that,
01:04:18Naseerabad, Loral, Kuzdar and some other divisions
01:04:22of Balochistan,
01:04:24it will give very good, rather stormy rains.
01:04:27And in the areas of Sindh,
01:04:29the areas of South Punjab, Hyderabad and below,
01:04:33and in Karachi,
01:04:35it is expected to rain 100 mm or more per day.
01:04:39So, this is a very severe system.
01:04:42And secondly,
01:04:43the area of this system is quite large.
01:04:47It will also happen in the sea.
01:04:49Because of which,
01:04:50the sea, the Arabian Sea,
01:04:52is very wet.
01:04:53On which dates?
01:04:55According to Karachi?
01:04:57Yes, according to Karachi,
01:04:59it can give more than 100 mm of rain per day.
01:05:03On 27th to 28th.
01:05:05On 27th to 28th.
01:05:07And secondly,
01:05:08a portion of it will also be spread in the sea.
01:05:11Because of that,
01:05:12the moisture from the sea,
01:05:15the amount of rain increases.
01:05:18If it is on land,
01:05:20there is not so much moisture.
01:05:22So, from this,
01:05:23to a great extent,
01:05:25the stormy and dangerous rains,
01:05:27from which,
01:05:28in our big cities,
01:05:30there is a lot of danger of urban flooding.
01:05:32And apart from that,
01:05:33the whole of Sindh will be covered with it.
01:05:36And in that,
01:05:37the wetlands and other areas,
01:05:40there will also be heavy rains.
01:05:43Okay, Mr. Shahid.
01:05:44Thank you so much, Mr. Shahid.
01:05:46Thank you very much.
01:05:47Take care of yourself.
01:05:48You explained it very well in a short time.
01:05:49On 27th and 28th.
01:05:50Remember the dates.
01:05:51Mr. Shahid Abbas said,
01:05:52we are not saying,
01:05:53that it can rain up to 100 mm in Karachi.
01:05:55And because this system will have more impact on the sea.
01:05:58Take care of yourself.
01:05:59Allah Hafiz.
01:06:00Allah Hafiz.