Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 16th Dec 2024

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00:00:30we get your feedback

00:00:32so this feedback matters a lot for us

00:00:34I might be sounding a little nasal today

00:00:36because

00:00:38due to health issues

00:00:40every other person in Karachi

00:00:42coughs and sneezes

00:00:44this is how you are feeling sick

00:00:46because if we talk about the last few days

00:00:48it has been so cold and windy

00:00:50that

00:00:52comparatively people are feeling

00:00:54that the weather is a little warm

00:00:56I was just checking, it is 16 degrees in Karachi

00:00:58and it feels like 18 degrees

00:01:00so we can say it is a little warm

00:01:02but when the winds are blowing

00:01:04whether it is 16 degrees, 10 degrees

00:01:06or 12 degrees

00:01:08you just remember the name of the cold

00:01:10so let's go

00:01:12we can talk about the weather in detail

00:01:14but initially

00:01:16everyone should take care

00:01:18especially to avoid

00:01:20the cold winds

00:01:22you should wear jackets, coats

00:01:24and mufflers

00:01:26if you can, wear socks

00:01:28take care of yourself

00:01:30a big issue

00:01:32since the last few days

00:01:34how many days are left

00:01:36for the ICC Champions Trophy

00:01:38who is hosting? Pakistan

00:01:40but it was not decided

00:01:42whether India would like to come to Pakistan

00:01:44or not

00:01:46India had already said

00:01:48and I am very surprised

00:01:50some of their media

00:01:52some of their journalists

00:01:54that we do not want to come to Pakistan

00:01:56it has been a year

00:01:58but formally and professionally

00:02:00there are some requirements

00:02:02you tell formally

00:02:04how long you have been a mumma

00:02:06news came through the media

00:02:08ICC played a stand-by role

00:02:10we thought

00:02:12the ICC

00:02:14had to make all the decisions

00:02:16but until all the decisions

00:02:18and acceptance came from India

00:02:20nothing was decided

00:02:22Pakistan had given a proposal

00:02:24to do a fusion

00:02:26and the fusion would be

00:02:28India should play its match

00:02:30in a neutral place, Dubai

00:02:32Pakistan should not come

00:02:34but when India will host

00:02:36then we will not go to India

00:02:38and we will play the match in a neutral venue

00:02:40so this should be decided for 3 years

00:02:42India was not agreeing to this

00:02:44but finally we are seeing

00:02:46that on the ICC Champions Trophy

00:02:48all the issues have been resolved

00:02:50and all the issues

00:02:52related to the event

00:02:54have been resolved

00:02:56but I am still waiting

00:02:58for the official press conference

00:03:00where it can be said

00:03:02that Pakistan will host

00:03:04India's match in Dubai

00:03:06and India could not reach

00:03:08in the semi-final

00:03:10so this is very important

00:03:12then all the knockout matches

00:03:14will be held in Pakistan

00:03:16Pakistan will not go to India

00:03:18to play in the semi-final

00:03:20and Pak-India and Pakistan

00:03:22matches will be held in Sri Lanka

00:03:24so the Champions Trophy will be played

00:03:26from 19th February to 9th March

00:03:28there will be a lot of events

00:03:30Pakistan is hosting

00:03:32so there will be a lot of excitement

00:03:34and let's see

00:03:36now the clarity has come

00:03:38where it will be, how it will be

00:03:40how the matches will be

00:03:42so with clarity, Pakistan's preparations

00:03:44are going on

00:03:46we have seen a lot of renovations

00:03:48in supervision

00:03:50of our cricket stadium

00:03:52which is a very good thing

00:03:54and now we have to see

00:03:56how Pakistan hosts

00:03:58and hosts so well

00:04:00so this is the whole situation

00:04:02and in this situation

00:04:04there is no backdrop

00:04:06but the Pakistan team

00:04:08from South Africa

00:04:10in T20, Pakistan could not win

00:04:12two matches were won by South Africa

00:04:14that was a rain

00:04:16so we can guess

00:04:18what was the situation

00:04:20so this is a good news

00:04:22from cricket

00:04:24in the sense that

00:04:26at least we have a plan

00:04:28and according to that

00:04:30we will move forward

00:04:32so the second news is

00:04:34that the prices of petrol

00:04:36have not changed

00:04:38we can consider this

00:04:40as a positive news

00:04:42so the prices of petrol

00:04:44have not changed

00:04:46the price of petrol

00:04:48is 252.10

00:04:50the price of high speed diesel

00:04:52is 3.05

00:04:54so in this way

00:04:56the new price of high speed diesel

00:04:58is 255.38

00:05:00the price of light diesel

00:05:02is 2.78

00:05:04and the new price

00:05:06is 148.95

00:05:08the price of

00:05:10oil is

00:05:123.32

00:05:14and the new price

00:05:16is 161.66

00:05:18so this is the

00:05:20situation in front of you

00:05:24so now

00:05:26let's jump into the political field

00:05:28and what is happening in the political field

00:05:30the scenario

00:05:32keeps changing

00:05:34the back story remains the same

00:05:36the main theme is

00:05:38that no one is able to understand

00:05:40the wisdom behind Pakistan's movement

00:05:42you might remember

00:05:44that on 13th or 14th

00:05:46of December

00:05:48they gave a time limit

00:05:50to the movement

00:05:52that if the government

00:05:54talks to us

00:05:56then we will not run this movement

00:05:58and if they don't talk to us

00:06:00then we will run this movement

00:06:02now what has happened

00:06:04the situation of BPTI is not clear

00:06:06and the statement of the minister

00:06:08is very important

00:06:10he says that he did not announce

00:06:12the movement of civil disobedience

00:06:14it was Bani who said it

00:06:16so this is a very interesting statement

00:06:18there is no clarity on this

00:06:20and if there is clarity

00:06:22then we will do civil disobedience

00:06:24let's listen to what Bani was saying

00:06:26so it seems like

00:06:28the second tier leadership

00:06:30of PPTI

00:06:32is distancing itself

00:06:34from the politics of Bani

00:06:36let's move ahead

00:06:38and talk about

00:06:40the minister's political advisor

00:06:42Rana Sanawallah

00:06:44that these people ran away from D-Chowk

00:06:46people hit their cars

00:06:48PTI social media cell

00:06:50tried to show the lie as the truth

00:06:52this is Rana Sanawallah's statement

00:06:54now the deputy minister of information

00:06:56Ali Ameen Gandapur

00:06:58says that the next call

00:07:00will not be the same

00:07:02so what was his call

00:07:04that was not fulfilled

00:07:06so let's listen to what Atta Tarar is saying

00:07:08now in such a situation

00:07:10we can see the government

00:07:12Chairman Senate

00:07:14which belongs to Pakistan People's Party

00:07:16Yusuf Raza Girani says that

00:07:18People's Party wants to join the government

00:07:20but will not join

00:07:22I don't know

00:07:24they are not part of the cabinet

00:07:26but why did they reiterate

00:07:28what is the story behind it

00:07:30our discussion continues

00:07:32Dr Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui of MQM

00:07:34says that the governorship

00:07:36that we have got

00:07:38is not in charity

00:07:40the government should try to

00:07:42change the situation

00:07:44so these are the statements

00:07:46and MQM says that

00:07:48the ministries are not in charity

00:07:50so why is MQM People's Party

00:07:52getting so upset with the government

00:07:54this is a scenario

00:07:56we will talk about it

00:07:58but what is happening

00:08:00the statements coming from the party

00:08:02are different

00:08:04let's talk about it

00:08:06Bureau Chief Islam Abad

00:08:08has joined us

00:08:10first of all

00:08:12Ali Ameen Gandapur

00:08:14I remember when the

00:08:16Shinghai conference was taking place

00:08:18he was saying that

00:08:20he will not leave until

00:08:22Bani tells him to go back

00:08:24now he says that

00:08:26I did not give this call

00:08:28Bani gave it

00:08:30so if Bani gave it

00:08:32why is it not being followed now

00:08:34what is happening here?

00:08:36I think

00:08:38if you listen to his entire statement

00:08:40Ali Ameen Gandapur

00:08:42said the same thing

00:08:44when he asked

00:08:46he said that

00:08:48I did not give this call

00:08:50Bani gave it

00:08:52and whatever he decides

00:08:54it is our duty

00:08:56as a party

00:08:58and we have to do it

00:09:00as far as I have heard his statement

00:09:02but

00:09:04the civil disobedience

00:09:06dates will be given

00:09:0813 and 14

00:09:10so what happened?

00:09:12they are saying that

00:09:14we have to do it

00:09:16they are talking to the

00:09:18unions

00:09:20yesterday

00:09:22and today

00:09:24in some cases

00:09:26Bani PTI

00:09:28has a chance to meet

00:09:30and from there

00:09:32Bani PTI

00:09:34will take the next step

00:09:36but see

00:09:38the real story is

00:09:40that Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

00:09:42has

00:09:44announced

00:09:46a five-member committee

00:09:48for negotiations

00:09:50it has been 4-5 days

00:09:52and we are seeing

00:09:54that the government

00:09:56is not doing anything

00:09:58and

00:10:00Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

00:10:02is repeatedly saying

00:10:04that you were saying

00:10:06that we are ready for negotiations

00:10:08but now

00:10:10you are not talking to us

00:10:12so now

00:10:14if the government does not

00:10:16negotiate

00:10:18then we will go towards

00:10:20civil disobedience

00:10:22there are many statements

00:10:24in politics

00:10:26like

00:10:28we will tear your trees

00:10:30we will do this and that

00:10:32I think

00:10:34all across the party

00:10:36but Khabar

00:10:38in a leaderless party

00:10:40this kind of

00:10:42action starts

00:10:44where we see that

00:10:46this is a pattern

00:10:48this started when Aleema Khan

00:10:50said that we will protest

00:10:52then Sanjani and D-Chowk

00:10:54there was confusion

00:10:56Barrister was giving statements

00:10:58so should we think

00:11:00that the people's party

00:11:02Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

00:11:04Ali Ameen Gandapur

00:11:06Zahira CMK

00:11:08they are distancing themselves

00:11:10from Bani's politics

00:11:12can we say that

00:11:14this is not for Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

00:11:16I will say that

00:11:18this is Pakistan Muslim League Noon

00:11:20so no one can distance themselves

00:11:22from Nawaz Sharif's thoughts

00:11:24or his decisions

00:11:26when it comes to Pakistan People's Party

00:11:28we cannot say that

00:11:30any party leader

00:11:32Murad Ali Shah

00:11:34will say that he is backing

00:11:36Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's decisions

00:11:38or we say that he is backing

00:11:40if he has to back

00:11:42we will not stay there for 5 minutes

00:11:44so this is the same

00:11:46in Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

00:11:48if they decide on Bani

00:11:50we can talk about it

00:11:52what is the right or wrong decision

00:11:54but KP's CM

00:11:56if he says

00:11:58or we comment on him

00:12:00that he is distancing himself

00:12:02we cannot see

00:12:04such a film

00:12:06yes, one reason

00:12:08which is very basic

00:12:10as you know, there is a gap

00:12:12different groups

00:12:14meet in different places

00:12:16and when

00:12:18every group meets

00:12:20in a different context

00:12:22the group

00:12:24has their own argument

00:12:26and Bani PTA

00:12:28gives their opinion

00:12:30and they express it

00:12:32so we feel that

00:12:34there is a lot of

00:12:36discrepancy

00:12:38in the party

00:12:40we are seeing

00:12:42some people

00:12:44as you have seen

00:12:46they are running away from arrests

00:12:48some are hiding

00:12:50some are in power

00:12:52as you have said

00:12:54in KP

00:12:56they have their own opinion

00:12:58but if Bani PTA

00:13:00has asked everyone

00:13:02to do this

00:13:04whether it is a success or failure

00:13:06whether it is a good or bad decision

00:13:08they will have to bow their heads

00:13:10I don't think

00:13:12that KP's CM will say no

00:13:14what are those issues?

00:13:16are there a lot of grievances?

00:13:18are there a lot of significant issues?

00:13:20people's party's chairman

00:13:22the senate

00:13:24is criticizing

00:13:26MQM has also come

00:13:28so what is this?

00:13:30are there any news related to this?

00:13:32or is this a temporary issue

00:13:34that will be sorted out?

00:13:36there are two points

00:13:38first

00:13:40can KP

00:13:42leave the government

00:13:44at any point

00:13:46they have agreed

00:13:48with them

00:13:50because without KP's support

00:13:52Shahbaz Sharif

00:13:54can't be the PM

00:13:56the answer to this

00:13:58is that they can't leave

00:14:00nor do they have the option

00:14:02the basic reason

00:14:04is that

00:14:06the agreement

00:14:08under which

00:14:10you have

00:14:12the leadership of Pakistan

00:14:14you have the deputy speaker

00:14:16of the national assembly

00:14:18you also have

00:14:20the chairman of the senate

00:14:22you also have two government

00:14:24of Balochistan and Sindh

00:14:26therefore

00:14:28it is not possible

00:14:30for them to leave

00:14:32and say that

00:14:34we are not supporting you

00:14:36because people are not supporting us

00:14:38they are trying

00:14:40to get a share

00:14:42in Punjab

00:14:44because

00:14:46they had an agreement

00:14:48to get some development funds

00:14:50some posting transfers

00:14:52they had to negotiate

00:14:54last week

00:14:56we took Nadeem Afzal Chahan

00:14:58and he told us

00:15:00that the basic agreement

00:15:02was that any big decision

00:15:04on the policy making

00:15:06level

00:15:08will be consulted

00:15:10by our party

00:15:12so they are not consulting us

00:15:14therefore it is a political statement

00:15:16I don't see

00:15:18and I don't think

00:15:20that the people's party

00:15:22should be separated from the government

00:15:24in the near future

00:15:26thank you so much

00:15:28Khawar was with us

00:15:30this morning

00:15:32we wanted to know

00:15:34what is happening

00:15:36in our capital city

00:15:38so you must have

00:15:40a good idea

00:15:42if the situation

00:15:44of the country is good

00:15:46then people

00:15:48don't have to

00:15:50go to another country

00:15:52and look for employment

00:15:54and people

00:15:56for a better future

00:15:58risk their lives

00:16:00and take such

00:16:02illegal

00:16:04and dangerous

00:16:06paths

00:16:08and sometimes

00:16:10they lose their lives

00:16:12or have to spend years

00:16:14in a detention center

00:16:16this is the southern island of Greece

00:16:18three ships of the

00:16:20Tariqeen-e-Batan

00:16:22were destroyed

00:16:24and the foreign office

00:16:26has confirmed that

00:16:28one Pakistani was killed

00:16:30and 47 were saved

00:16:32so this

00:16:34Pakistani

00:16:36more details

00:16:38are being told

00:16:40more information is being

00:16:42obtained

00:16:44according to the Greek coast guard

00:16:46most of the ships were

00:16:48Pakistani

00:16:50this happened

00:16:52in the beginning of this year

00:16:54more than 300 people

00:16:56were killed

00:16:58in that ship

00:17:00and people

00:17:02came from different

00:17:04countries

00:17:06according to the

00:17:08government

00:17:10the ships left

00:17:12Libya

00:17:14and entered

00:17:16Europe

00:17:18illegally

00:17:20Prime Minister

00:17:22Shahbaz Sharif and

00:17:24Interior Minister

00:17:26have expressed regret

00:17:28but this is a big issue

00:17:30and we should

00:17:32ask our government

00:17:34why so many Pakistanis

00:17:36take this path

00:17:38and we were told

00:17:40that the agents

00:17:42who send people

00:17:44will be cracked down

00:17:46smuggling is a

00:17:48heinous crime

00:17:50and in the future

00:17:52serious steps

00:17:54will be taken

00:17:56in Greece

00:17:58a special cell

00:18:00has been set up

00:18:02to help the Pakistanis

00:18:04one thing is

00:18:06the government's responsibility

00:18:08but one thing is your responsibility

00:18:10what if

00:18:12in the future

00:18:14you end up in a detention

00:18:16or jail

00:18:18and it may take years

00:18:20to get out

00:18:22or you may have to

00:18:24contact your country

00:18:26or the most dangerous

00:18:28thing is that

00:18:30you may lose your life

00:18:32and your family

00:18:34whom you went to

00:18:36support

00:18:38how did you

00:18:40leave them

00:18:42and if you think

00:18:44your situation will get better

00:18:46then try to follow

00:18:48the international law

00:18:50a lot of Pakistanis

00:18:52go to different countries

00:18:54Saudi Arabia, UAE

00:18:56earn a good living

00:18:58you can also take this path

00:19:00but don't put your family

00:19:02in this problem

00:19:04this was our small message

00:19:06from this platform

00:19:08and when incidents like this happen

00:19:10I don't know

00:19:12if the news will reach

00:19:14your family

00:19:16let's take a break

00:19:18and come back

00:19:24welcome back

00:19:26once again

00:19:28we have been highlighting this issue

00:19:30for a long time

00:19:32about the dacoits

00:19:34now their strategies

00:19:36are changing

00:19:38and the people

00:19:40they want to target

00:19:42are also changing

00:19:44dacoits in Kashmore

00:19:46have asked for

00:19:48alimony from a Chinese company

00:19:50what is their method

00:19:52we will tell you

00:19:54civil engineering construction corporation

00:19:56has written a letter

00:19:58to the government

00:20:00and has informed them

00:20:02about the situation

00:20:04in the letter

00:20:06a dacoit named Badal

00:20:08whatever his name

00:20:10has called the construction manager

00:20:12and asked for 50 lakh rupees

00:20:142 mobile phones and 1 motorcycle

00:20:16and the dacoit

00:20:18has threatened that

00:20:20if the demands are not fulfilled

00:20:22the workers will be harmed

00:20:24so this is very alarming

00:20:26the Chinese company

00:20:28has also warned the S.P. Kashmore and D.C. Kashmore

00:20:30and the company has said

00:20:32that the local authorities

00:20:34have failed to provide

00:20:36security

00:20:38so the first response

00:20:40should be

00:20:42that we have not received

00:20:44any response

00:20:46what is the situation

00:20:48and our international reputation

00:20:50is also at stake

00:20:52so let us talk about

00:20:54why this happened

00:20:56and how will we get the alimony

00:20:58we will talk to the chief reporter

00:21:00Lala Asad Pathan

00:21:02Lala Asad Pathan

00:21:04now he is so angry

00:21:06that the Pakistanis

00:21:08and the residents

00:21:10are targeting the Chinese company

00:21:12and are demanding

00:21:14and when the Chinese company

00:21:16contacts the local authorities

00:21:18they say that they have not received

00:21:20any response

00:21:22so what is your opinion

00:21:24on this situation

00:21:26Thank you Sadaf

00:21:28the real issue is

00:21:30that the people who stand against the government

00:21:32who are terrorists

00:21:34or dacoits

00:21:36who think they are superior to the law

00:21:38when they do not look at the government

00:21:40and when the government

00:21:42does not treat them

00:21:44properly

00:21:46then this happens

00:21:48we have talked a lot

00:21:50about this

00:21:52in your program

00:21:54and always tried to

00:21:56awaken the government

00:21:58that this is a big

00:22:00cancer

00:22:02and treatment is necessary

00:22:04when you

00:22:06in Sindh's heart

00:22:08there is Punjab on one side

00:22:10and Balochistan on the other

00:22:12and there is KP's area

00:22:14in the district of Kankot

00:22:16and in that area

00:22:18the number of dacoits

00:22:20who are around 100-125

00:22:22if they become a challenge

00:22:24for the government

00:22:26this is an alarming situation

00:22:28a few days ago

00:22:30in Sakhar, a Chinese company

00:22:32committed a robbery of 1 crore rupees

00:22:34this is another thing that

00:22:36the SSP of Sakhar

00:22:38has committed three robberies

00:22:40and one is still missing

00:22:42some money has been recovered

00:22:44but in the city of Sakhar

00:22:46which is the 3rd largest city of Sindh

00:22:48in the middle of the city

00:22:50there is a robbery

00:22:52they got trashed and killed

00:22:54this is a Chinese company

00:22:56this is a foreign company

00:22:58they wrote a letter

00:23:00and this created a hype

00:23:02there are many letters like this

00:23:04from local traders

00:23:06and industrialists

00:23:08on the basis of Delhi

00:23:10tell me one thing

00:23:12you have been covering this for a long time

00:23:14obviously we try to get

00:23:16information from you

00:23:18secondly you are aware of that area

00:23:20what are the conditions there

00:23:22you are aware of the situation

00:23:24this is a situation

00:23:26where someone is trapped

00:23:28kidnapped

00:23:30and it is very difficult

00:23:32to recover people

00:23:34but writing a letter

00:23:36and demanding

00:23:38this is a step ahead

00:23:40a step up

00:23:42so isn't the administration

00:23:44interested in this?

00:23:46the response they gave

00:23:48or is it really difficult

00:23:50to recover people?

00:23:52for one thing

00:23:54our administration

00:23:56has started this

00:23:58honey trap

00:24:00this honey trap is also

00:24:02related to kidnapping

00:24:04all these things start from there

00:24:06the government should see

00:24:08that this honey trap is not related to kidnapping

00:24:10people are not kidnapped and

00:24:12they are not kidnapped

00:24:14so this is an administration tactic

00:24:16that they always put the media on track

00:24:18so that no one goes there

00:24:20they are provoked

00:24:22and they go there

00:24:24and the administration

00:24:26is not serious about this

00:24:28because the administration is not ready

00:24:30to fight

00:24:32there are targeted operations

00:24:34at different places

00:24:36of police and rangers

00:24:38but as we have told you

00:24:40this is an area of 6.5 lakhs

00:24:42acres

00:24:44the operation should be done

00:24:46on one hand Sakhar police

00:24:48on the other hand Shikarpur

00:24:50and on the other hand Punjab police

00:24:52and Ghoti police

00:24:54all the stakeholders

00:24:56have been operated on a large scale?

00:24:58never

00:25:00we have never operated on a large scale

00:25:02they operate on a targeted basis

00:25:04they go to a place

00:25:06they don't live in urban areas

00:25:08they don't live in buildings

00:25:10they live in huts

00:25:12they have built their houses

00:25:14they move on boats

00:25:16they go to the other side of the river

00:25:18they go to other areas

00:25:20they travel on motorcycles

00:25:22is this a more difficult area than Swat?

00:25:24are there more difficult conditions

00:25:26that cannot be controlled from there?

00:25:28Swat and Waziristan

00:25:30are the most difficult areas

00:25:32because there are mountainous areas

00:25:34there are tunnels

00:25:36it is very difficult to operate there

00:25:38it is very easy

00:25:40but there is no stake

00:25:42the government does not have the power

00:25:44that the people who are being kidnapped

00:25:46the kidnapping is happening

00:25:48why are they silent?

00:25:50because they are not being kidnapped

00:25:52they are following the government protocol

00:25:54they are following their security

00:25:56the problem is for the common people

00:25:58the problem is for the common civilians

00:26:00the problem is for the common traders

00:26:02the problem is for the companies

00:26:04they are travelling here on a daily basis

00:26:06that is why

00:26:08the Minister of Internal Affairs

00:26:10has written a letter to the DG Rangers

00:26:12that the security should be provided

00:26:14immediately

00:26:16a Chinese company will get the security

00:26:18from the Rangers and the police

00:26:20but for the end of this disaster

00:26:22a compromise is needed

00:26:24tell me one more thing

00:26:26when the letter has been written to the government

00:26:28then what will the government do?

00:26:30the administration of the province

00:26:32will call for a compromise

00:26:34the administration of the province

00:26:36will call for a compromise

00:26:38what will the government do?

00:26:40the idea

00:26:42in 2004

00:26:44when the Pakistani

00:26:46weapons were shown

00:26:48the Sindh police

00:26:50bought heavy weapons

00:26:52and the sale has started

00:26:54but all these weapons

00:26:56will come

00:26:58even if the government does not have the will

00:27:00even if the police does not have the will

00:27:02even if the federal government does not have the will

00:27:04then the weapons will come

00:27:06there is no use

00:27:08you may remember

00:27:10when we broke the news on ARY

00:27:12the president of the country

00:27:14Mr. Asif Ali Zardari

00:27:16he gathered all the stakeholders

00:27:18all the intelligence agencies

00:27:20police, rangers

00:27:22and he gave a detailed briefing

00:27:24all the officers gave a detailed briefing

00:27:26on how we can do a targeted operation

00:27:28and how we can solve everything together

00:27:30but after that

00:27:32it was decided that there will be a grand operation

00:27:34till now there has been no grand operation

00:27:36let's do a targeted operation

00:27:38everything is on paper

00:27:40we are seeing the results

00:27:42because the results are telling us

00:27:44that it is not working

00:27:46as claimed

00:27:48thank you so much Lala Asad Pathan

00:27:50and hopefully this problem is sorted out

00:27:52and we don't have to face

00:27:54this kind of situation

00:27:56let's take a break

00:27:58Welcome back once again

00:28:00and we see

00:28:02especially in Zinda Dilan-e-Lahore

00:28:04sometimes

00:28:06very innovative ideas come

00:28:08and it is good

00:28:10it is said that such things should keep coming

00:28:12and people

00:28:14try to incorporate it

00:28:16so it is a news for the people of Lahore

00:28:18that now if you feel like drinking coffee

00:28:20and obviously

00:28:22the cold weather there

00:28:24so definitely people

00:28:26want to enjoy coffee

00:28:28especially in this weather

00:28:30so you can directly

00:28:32go to Modern Town Police Station

00:28:34but you don't have to be scared

00:28:36because the police

00:28:38will not bother you

00:28:40nor have you been called for an investigation

00:28:42but Punjab Police

00:28:44has decided that coffee will be provided to you

00:28:46so Punjab Police

00:28:48has opened a coffee shop for the people

00:28:50in the office of SDP Operations

00:28:52and its name is

00:28:54Red Culture Coffee

00:28:56so very interesting

00:28:58you can see the place

00:29:00it is a designated area

00:29:02people who are scared of police stations

00:29:04will drink coffee without hesitation

00:29:06let's see if people really take interest in it

00:29:08and for the people of Chandar Agha

00:29:10the doors of police stations

00:29:12will always be open

00:29:14so this is a welcoming gesture

00:29:16from Punjab Police

00:29:18but will people really take interest in it

00:29:20or not

00:29:22because obviously we have seen the location

00:29:24let's talk to

00:29:26ASP Defence Punjab Police

00:29:28Syeda Sheherbano Nafi

00:29:30thank you so much Sheherbano for joining us

00:29:32first of all tell us

00:29:34where did this idea come from

00:29:36it is very new

00:29:38and I would say daring

00:29:40maybe people are still scared

00:29:42and don't know what is going on

00:29:44why are they calling for coffee

00:29:46thank you so much for having me

00:29:48basically the idea

00:29:50since we

00:29:52took up the project

00:29:54that we have to replicate

00:29:56the model of special initiative police stations

00:29:58throughout Punjab

00:30:00we wanted to get into a joint venture

00:30:02where we encourage

00:30:04the private sector

00:30:06to use the police enterprises

00:30:08and infrastructure

00:30:10for service delivery

00:30:12the second reason to venture into this

00:30:14was that we wanted people

00:30:16to come to the police stations

00:30:18and see the recent renovations

00:30:20across Punjab

00:30:22interestingly Model Town

00:30:24which is the first police station

00:30:26in Punjab

00:30:28not only the front end

00:30:30but also the back end

00:30:32we have made super barracks

00:30:34where Nafi can stay

00:30:36so earlier

00:30:38only the front end was getting repaired

00:30:40so we took up this location

00:30:42to get into a joint venture

00:30:44with a coffee company

00:30:46their name is as interesting

00:30:48as our work

00:30:50considering deviants

00:30:52are associated with the police

00:30:54and they promoted a third culture

00:30:56so we wanted to come in collaboration

00:30:58with them

00:31:00we requested them to come

00:31:02and we will replace the police station culture

00:31:04with a third culture

00:31:06I was surprised to hear this name

00:31:08we have heard

00:31:10third degree torture

00:31:12third culture coffee is very unique

00:31:14its good that you clarified this

00:31:16but this term

00:31:18is similar to it

00:31:20how is the response so far?

00:31:22I think it has started

00:31:24I hope so

00:31:26when we started this

00:31:28we never wanted to make it public

00:31:30now people are getting to know

00:31:32interestingly it started

00:31:344 months ago

00:31:36we wanted to test

00:31:38the response

00:31:40people have been publicizing it

00:31:42on social media

00:31:44people go there

00:31:46considering the vicinity of model town

00:31:48there was no high end

00:31:50upscale coffee shop

00:31:52so that itself

00:31:54gives it an edge

00:31:56I remember

00:31:58there was a hotspot

00:32:00in Islamabad in a train box

00:32:02and everybody was more interested

00:32:04in the train box as opposed to the ice cream

00:32:06which was really good

00:32:08so we wanted to bring a very interesting coffee shop

00:32:10into the police station

00:32:12the response is very good

00:32:14now 4 months have passed

00:32:16and now we decided to make it public

00:32:18now we will tell the media

00:32:20that this has taken place

00:32:22and we will be doing such experiments more

00:32:24in Punjab

00:32:26tell me

00:32:28whenever such steps are taken

00:32:30it is not just that people get a welcoming gesture

00:32:32people's attitude also starts changing

00:32:34the gap

00:32:36starts reducing

00:32:38do you think

00:32:40this will not only affect the public

00:32:42which is a basic goal

00:32:44to end the fear of the police

00:32:46secondly

00:32:48the attitude of the police

00:32:50will also change

00:32:52the way they deal with the public

00:32:54this is a very good statement

00:32:56what you said holds true

00:32:58it holds water

00:33:00when people started coming to the police station

00:33:02initially

00:33:04the people on duty

00:33:06were hesitant

00:33:08now you see their faces smiling

00:33:10their demeanour has changed

00:33:12model town is

00:33:14an area where crime

00:33:16is negligible

00:33:18because of that

00:33:20their focus has shifted

00:33:22towards service delivery

00:33:24towards bridging that gap between the people

00:33:26you can see that

00:33:28people now go to the police station

00:33:30with permission

00:33:32to see how the jails are

00:33:34how is the SHO's room

00:33:36how to submit a request

00:33:38who is the seal

00:33:40who is the SHO

00:33:42what are their duties

00:33:44we are also disseminating information

00:33:46in a better way

00:33:48thank you so much

00:33:50you were with us

00:33:52there are always unique ideas

00:33:54you are behind it

00:33:56thank you so much for doing that

00:33:58secondly

00:34:00the way people are coming here

00:34:02when Sail comes

00:34:04his problem should be solved

00:34:06as per the law

00:34:08he should get relief

00:34:10he should not have to go through

00:34:12the traumatic experience

00:34:14of the police station

00:34:16there is a need for improvement

00:34:18which I think

00:34:20after such innovative ideas

00:34:22such things can also

00:34:24move forward

00:34:26let's talk about

00:34:28those who love books

00:34:30let's talk about them

00:34:32even if they don't

00:34:34and if they get interested

00:34:36because when such a

00:34:38literature festival or book fair

00:34:40is organized

00:34:42people also get interested

00:34:44and want to see what books are available

00:34:46sometimes children insist

00:34:48that let's buy books from there

00:34:50so in Karachi Expo Center

00:34:5219th International Book Fair

00:34:54was organized and today is the last day

00:34:56the last day is very interesting

00:34:58if you want a discount

00:35:00you can go there

00:35:02and avail a great discount

00:35:06book lovers are coming

00:35:08and the number of people

00:35:10who have come

00:35:12is a good number

00:35:14which shows that

00:35:16there are still people in this city

00:35:18who love books

00:35:20the number of people

00:35:22who have come

00:35:24is more than 400,000

00:35:26and there are 6 halls

00:35:28in which there are different stalls

00:35:30of different publishing companies

00:35:32so let's know more about it

00:35:34our representatives are present

00:35:36Anwar Khan

00:35:38Anwar Khan tell us

00:35:40firstly the number of people

00:35:42is very good

00:35:44secondly today is the last day

00:35:46so what is the expectation

00:35:48that people will come in large numbers

00:35:50in Karachi Expo Center

00:35:5219th International Book Fair

00:35:54people should come in large numbers

00:35:56book lovers should come

00:35:58people who love books

00:36:00should come

00:36:02books are heaven for book lovers

00:36:04so I am also looking for my type of books

00:36:06book reading is important

00:36:08because with book reading

00:36:10your mind develops

00:36:12and it's kind of escape from the reality

00:36:14to the fiction world

00:36:16I bought this book

00:36:18for my younger sister

00:36:20in this book fair

00:36:22the number of people

00:36:24is more than 400,000

00:36:26we have headcounted

00:36:28430,000 people

00:36:30have come to us in 4 days

00:36:32yesterday there were 90 buses

00:36:34full of people

00:36:36and we had a parking problem

00:36:38people from Karachi

00:36:40have helped us a lot

00:36:42book sellers are very happy

00:36:44their publications are on sale

00:36:46and they are ready to book us

00:36:48for next year

00:36:50book fair will be held

00:36:52international book fair

00:36:54we will try to get support

00:36:56from the Sindh government

00:36:58in next month

00:37:00we will hold book fair

00:37:02in Hyderabad, Larkana, Mirpur Khas

00:37:04a small advice

00:37:06related to books

00:37:08you should read all kinds of books

00:37:10Elon Musk was asked

00:37:12which books should be read

00:37:14he said you should try

00:37:16to increase your general knowledge

00:37:18you can read all kinds of books

00:37:20you can read history, fiction

00:37:22you can read science related books

00:37:24but book should be interesting

00:37:26if a book is boring

00:37:28leave it

00:37:30you have to finish it

00:37:32never set a target

00:37:34a good book

00:37:36will attract your interest

00:37:38it will capture your interest

00:37:40and then you close that book

00:37:42when you finish it

00:37:44increase your general knowledge

00:37:46it will change your life

00:37:48it will change your perspective

00:37:50it will change your life

00:37:52it will change your life

00:37:54I am taking a break

00:37:56we will come after the break

00:38:04Assalam-o-Alaikum

00:38:06welcome back once again

00:38:08it is 10.03 pm

00:38:10I am here again

00:38:12this show is 2 hours long

00:38:14from 9 to 10

00:38:16we were with you

00:38:18from 10 to 11

00:38:20we will be with you

00:38:22we will try to present

00:38:24relevant stories

00:38:26in this way

00:38:28so that you can

00:38:30get information

00:38:32and know the facts

00:38:34this is our effort

00:38:36we get your feedback

00:38:38which is very valuable

00:38:40today is 16th December

00:38:42and this date

00:38:4416th December

00:38:46when we realize

00:38:48what happened

00:38:5010 years ago

00:38:52it feels like yesterday

00:38:54and the day this incident

00:38:56was happening

00:38:58when it was reported on TV

00:39:00no one including me

00:39:02could have believed

00:39:04that such a blinding incident

00:39:06can happen

00:39:08no matter how big the terrorist

00:39:10how these innocent

00:39:12innocent children

00:39:14who are not enemies

00:39:16who did not harm anyone

00:39:18who just went to school

00:39:20to get education

00:39:22who are 6,7,12,10,14 years old

00:39:24these innocent children

00:39:26who were martyred

00:39:28mercilessly

00:39:30cannot forget that scene

00:39:32the blood, bloodshed

00:39:34the walls, the ground

00:39:36the halls

00:39:38the teachers were crying

00:39:40they cannot forget that scene

00:39:42I am talking about Saneha APS

00:39:44this incident happened in 2014

00:39:46and today in 2024

00:39:48when I am remembering this incident

00:39:50I don't have words

00:39:52to express my pain

00:39:54I still get goosebumps

00:39:56and I am surprised

00:39:58how these innocent children

00:40:00were martyred

00:40:02we can feel the pain of the whole nation

00:40:04when this incident happened

00:40:06everyone was united

00:40:08in the sense that

00:40:10people felt the pain

00:40:12of those mothers

00:40:14of those fathers

00:40:16of those teachers

00:40:18who went through this Saneha

00:40:20what happened in this incident

00:40:22the teachers and the children

00:40:24the numbers are very sad

00:40:26132 children

00:40:28and 150 people were martyred

00:40:30the information about the terrorists

00:40:32says that they got training

00:40:34from Pakistan

00:40:36and they were given

00:40:38firearms from Pakistan

00:40:40and we see that

00:40:42the land of Afghanistan

00:40:44was being used

00:40:46and there are still reports

00:40:48of terrorism

00:40:50the innocent citizens of Pakistan

00:40:52were targeted

00:40:54and we see that the people

00:40:56of Pakistan are still

00:40:58suffering from terrorism

00:41:00because today is the 10th anniversary

00:41:02of Saneha

00:41:04Sadr Asif Zardari said

00:41:06incidents like Saneha

00:41:08expose the reality of terrorism

00:41:10the people of Pakistan

00:41:12will never let the terrorists

00:41:14succeed

00:41:16and Saneha

00:41:18united us as a nation

00:41:20against terrorism

00:41:22let's end terrorism

00:41:24and work for a better Pakistan

00:41:26the Prime Minister

00:41:28said that Saneha

00:41:30children's lives

00:41:32their dreams

00:41:34their parents dreams

00:41:36and their future

00:41:38were snatched away from them

00:41:40the terrorists like

00:41:42Fitnatul Khabarit

00:41:44have nothing to do with religion

00:41:46and the whole nation

00:41:48is united against

00:41:50these terrorists

00:41:52like a wall

00:41:54I don't know

00:41:56how to move forward

00:41:58with hope

00:42:00and sympathy

00:42:02that the land of Pakistan

00:42:04should always be safe

00:42:06let's move forward with this prayer

00:42:08our segment

00:42:10is very interesting

00:42:12we are seeing a lot of weather changes

00:42:14and a lot of problems

00:42:16without season

00:42:18it rains

00:42:20floods

00:42:22will come in large numbers

00:42:24this has also been reported

00:42:26and of course

00:42:28due to weather changes

00:42:30the phenomena are changing

00:42:32similarly we are seeing

00:42:34food scarcity

00:42:36why is it happening?

00:42:38because in the season

00:42:40when the crops are not ready

00:42:42when it doesn't rain

00:42:44and when the crops are ready

00:42:46and then it rains

00:42:48how to manage the farmers

00:42:50is very difficult

00:42:52now many countries

00:42:54are using this technology

00:42:56to control food scarcity

00:42:58in Swat

00:43:00a research institute

00:43:02without soil and air

00:43:04succeeded in growing vegetables

00:43:06how is this possible?

00:43:08because without this

00:43:10you can't grow vegetables

00:43:12now it has been said

00:43:14that in very few places

00:43:16vegetables can be grown

00:43:18in plastic pipes and buckets

00:43:20in which spinach, cauliflower, eggplant, green chilies

00:43:22this technology is mostly used

00:43:24in the production of leafy vegetables

00:43:26and the good thing is

00:43:28that even in houses

00:43:30citizens can use this technology

00:43:32to grow vegetables

00:43:34let's talk about it

00:43:36with us is the director of Agriculture Research Institute

00:43:38Dr. Roshan Ali

00:43:40thank you so much for joining us

00:43:42we know that science

00:43:44technology and science

00:43:46have given new ideas

00:43:48and with the help of technology

00:43:50without soil and air

00:43:52how can a plant grow?

00:43:54please shed some light on this

00:44:04this technology

00:44:06that we have started

00:44:08is not a new technology

00:44:10in the outside world

00:44:12in the middle east

00:44:14this technology is being used

00:44:16we have introduced it

00:44:18this technology

00:44:20without soil

00:44:22in buckets and pipes

00:44:24we grow plants

00:44:26especially

00:44:28leafy vegetables

00:44:30we put a solution in it

00:44:32that solution

00:44:34we have installed an automatic system

00:44:36with it

00:44:38in one hour

00:44:40it is on for 10 minutes

00:44:42and it is off for 50 minutes

00:44:44it is on for only 10 minutes

00:44:46this water

00:44:48the nutrients

00:44:50that the plant needs

00:44:52we put it in it

00:44:54it goes up and gets recycled

00:44:56and

00:44:58the roots of leafy vegetables

00:45:00they need their water

00:45:02and food from it

00:45:04so in this

00:45:06it is cost effective

00:45:08it is very inexpensive

00:45:10and it has clean water

00:45:12because the vegetables we eat

00:45:14we use this

00:45:16water

00:45:18that has dirt

00:45:20especially heavy metals

00:45:22so we can use this clean water

00:45:24we use less water

00:45:26and it is clean

00:45:28so the vegetables

00:45:30that we produce

00:45:32are good for health

00:45:34and these days

00:45:36the soil is getting less

00:45:38so one more benefit of this

00:45:40is that people

00:45:42can easily install this system

00:45:44on the terrace

00:45:46so I wanted to ask you

00:45:48that

00:45:50the footage that we are seeing

00:45:52is that on a large scale

00:45:54people must have been appointed

00:45:56there will be staff

00:45:58who will take care of everything

00:46:00there will be a whole process

00:46:02but if a person wants to do it

00:46:04in his house, balcony, terrace, garden

00:46:06then first of all

00:46:08what all things will he need

00:46:10and how soon can he get the result

00:46:12what can be the expectation

00:46:20actually

00:46:22it is like

00:46:26actually

00:46:28the tunnel that we have made

00:46:30it is not necessary

00:46:32you can do it on the terrace

00:46:34you can grow the vegetables

00:46:36in the season

00:46:38and it is very inexpensive

00:46:40you just need a bucket

00:46:42and a pipe

00:46:44and a small motor

00:46:46which is connected to the cooler

00:46:48and a timer

00:46:50you can set the timer

00:46:52you can keep it on

00:46:54for as long as you want

00:46:56and here

00:46:58we are doing

00:47:00different research

00:47:02so

00:47:04we keep it on for 10 minutes

00:47:06and we keep it off for 50 minutes

00:47:08so we need these 4 things

00:47:10and it is very inexpensive

00:47:12it is locally

00:47:14available

00:47:16we have designed it

00:47:18and the solution we need

00:47:20we have worked on it

00:47:22for the investors

00:47:24for the interested people

00:47:26if they come here

00:47:28we can give them training

00:47:30and they can easily

00:47:32get fresh vegetables

00:47:34and they can easily

00:47:36grow it on their terrace

00:47:38and balcony

00:47:40but you will recommend

00:47:42to people to do this

00:47:44at their homes

00:47:46secondly

00:47:48tell us

00:47:50why only the vegetable with leaves

00:47:52and does it change the taste

00:47:54of the vegetables

00:47:56these vegetables

00:47:58with leaves

00:48:00we can do it

00:48:02we can grow

00:48:04tomatoes

00:48:06brinjals

00:48:08and other vegetables

00:48:10so

00:48:12for this

00:48:14the diameter of the pipe

00:48:16should be big

00:48:18so that the roots

00:48:20inside

00:48:22the solution

00:48:24can reach the roots

00:48:26so we can do that

00:48:28and farmers

00:48:30can do it

00:48:32because the thing we need

00:48:34is available in the local market

00:48:36we just need training

00:48:38and we can give it here

00:48:40but we need air

00:48:42for the solution

00:48:44because how will it grow

00:48:46in such a controlled environment

00:48:48this is not a controlled environment

00:48:50this big pipe

00:48:52is hollow from inside

00:48:54so we put the cup

00:48:56in this

00:48:58and we grow the nursery

00:49:00in this foam

00:49:02we put the foam in this

00:49:04so air comes in this

00:49:06it doesn't close like this

00:49:08so the roots get the air

00:49:10and if

00:49:12someone wants to make it bigger

00:49:14so

00:49:16it grows

00:49:18so if we spray it from above

00:49:20it grows very fast

00:49:22so it is possible

00:49:24indoor

00:49:26but

00:49:28we need sunlight, air, light, water

00:49:30but you are saying

00:49:32that it can be done indoor

00:49:34yes

00:49:36it gets air

00:49:38from outside

00:49:40and the water in the bucket

00:49:42we put the fertilizer in it

00:49:44so the fertilizer gets recycled

00:49:46but the advantage is that

00:49:48very less water is used

00:49:50because nowadays water shortage is coming

00:49:52and that is clean

00:49:54if there is 15 liters of water in a bucket

00:49:56it can last for 2 months

00:49:58so

00:50:00we can grow it very easily

00:50:02thank you so much

00:50:04Dr. Roshan Ali was with us

00:50:06and his point is

00:50:08that in different countries

00:50:10this technology is being used

00:50:12this method is being adopted

00:50:14which is cost effective

00:50:16so let's see

00:50:18what we will see in the future

00:50:20how the policies move forward

00:50:22and how it is implemented

00:50:24let's share one more information

00:50:26and that is

00:50:28all Muslims

00:50:30wish to

00:50:32at least once in their life

00:50:34get the blessings of Hajj

00:50:36so the government has announced

00:50:38the Hajj policy

00:50:40and what is this year's policy

00:50:42let's tell you

00:50:44some new rules

00:50:46have been added

00:50:48according to the government

00:50:50the Hajj quota has been kept

00:50:5250-50%

00:50:54children under the age of 12

00:50:56will not be able to go to Hajj

00:50:58for a quarter of a year

00:51:00due to various diseases

00:51:02but for the pilgrims

00:51:04the Hajj payment system has been introduced

00:51:06because there are a lot of expenses

00:51:08so in the proper installment

00:51:10you can spend the expenses

00:51:12next year

00:51:14more than 189,000

00:51:16pilgrims will be able to

00:51:18get the blessings of Hajj

00:51:20and the expenses are

00:51:2210,76,000 to 11,76,000

00:51:24which can be paid

00:51:26in the installment

00:51:28we have with us

00:51:30the translator of the Ministry of Religious Affairs

00:51:32Mr. Muhammad Umar

00:51:34thank you so much Mr. Umar

00:51:36I have told some changes

00:51:38but if you think I have missed something

00:51:40which is important to know

00:51:42please let me know

00:51:44thank you very much

00:51:46for the introduction

00:51:48of the Hajj payment system

00:51:50and these are the things

00:51:52and the special thing

00:51:54is that we were paying

00:51:56in one hour

00:51:58we have asked for the payment

00:52:00and also

00:52:02the purchases are going on

00:52:04in Saudi Arabia

00:52:06food, accommodation, transport

00:52:08offices, etc

00:52:10there is a committee

00:52:12which has started the purchases

00:52:14we will ask for the third installment

00:52:16in the beginning of February

00:52:18and we will get to know

00:52:20how much is our package

00:52:22so that we can take the extra money

00:52:24because the ministry is based on

00:52:26no profit, no loss

00:52:28and provides these facilities

00:52:30to the pilgrims

00:52:32and the second thing

00:52:34as you have told

00:52:36Saudi Arabia also

00:52:38brings a lot of improvement

00:52:40every year

00:52:42we are also having

00:52:44Zoom meetings

00:52:46we also have a directorate

00:52:48so the facilities

00:52:50of the offices

00:52:52we have asked

00:52:54for the facilities

00:52:56as soon as possible

00:52:58because if we do the purchases

00:53:00as soon as possible

00:53:02we will be able to plan

00:53:04Umar, please tell us

00:53:06the age limit

00:53:08for children under 12

00:53:10what is the reason behind this?

00:53:14the reason behind this

00:53:16is that

00:53:18for the last 2-3 years

00:53:20and for the next 5-6 years

00:53:22the Hajj will be

00:53:24in hot weather

00:53:26and the vulnerable

00:53:28children are innocent

00:53:30and also

00:53:32they are increasing the number

00:53:34of children

00:53:36because it is a Nafli Hajj

00:53:38and also because of the hot weather

00:53:40and also

00:53:42the people who are

00:53:44suffering from chronic diseases

00:53:46have also been restricted

00:53:48so the reason behind this

00:53:50is that it is a hot weather

00:53:52and they should be protected

00:53:54so in the next 2-4 years

00:53:56or after 5 years

00:53:58we will be able to

00:54:00restrict the Hajj

00:54:02you have mentioned

00:54:04that the Hajj

00:54:06for the elderly

00:54:08what will be the arrangements for them?

00:54:10because most of the Pakistanis

00:54:12who go as a government

00:54:14they have to face a lot of difficulties

00:54:18the 5 days of Hajj

00:54:20because it is such an obligatory worship

00:54:22it is the longest worship

00:54:24and

00:54:26it has the most expenses

00:54:28and

00:54:30thirdly, physically

00:54:32it requires the most effort

00:54:34and also

00:54:36it is an open area

00:54:38like Mina's tent

00:54:40where you won't find

00:54:42a building like environment

00:54:44and in Arafat

00:54:46there are big canopies

00:54:48and in Muzdafa

00:54:50you have to spend the night

00:54:52under the open sky

00:54:54and also

00:54:56the shades have been arranged

00:54:58but the precautionary measures

00:55:00from the Saudi government

00:55:02when the Hajj started in the summer

00:55:04they decided

00:55:06the time of Rami

00:55:08and last year

00:55:10we saw that the time of Rami

00:55:12is after Zawal

00:55:14but the Saudi government

00:55:16said that you should go

00:55:18after 4pm for Rami

00:55:20in the same way, in Mina and Arafat

00:55:22your regular week

00:55:24they did it in the middle of the night

00:55:26from sunset

00:55:28till Fajr and 9-10am

00:55:30we suggest

00:55:32the poor people

00:55:34to stay with their family

00:55:36and go with them

00:55:38if they need a wheelchair

00:55:40they can take it

00:55:42because the family

00:55:44can take care of them

00:55:46their children can go with them

00:55:48Thank you so much

00:55:50Mr. Umar Bhatt

00:55:52for clarifying everything

00:55:54Thank you

00:55:56It is winter

00:55:58I don't want to talk about the weather

00:56:00because people say

00:56:02that they feel hungry in this season

00:56:04the reason is

00:56:06that your body temperature

00:56:08reduces

00:56:10you feel lethargic

00:56:12in this season

00:56:14if you have food

00:56:16comfort food

00:56:18and tasty food

00:56:20then you feel better

00:56:22in the cold of Mansehra

00:56:24what do the citizens do?

00:56:26there are many places

00:56:28where they cook

00:56:30and this place is famous

00:56:32how tasty it is

00:56:34how many people are enjoying

00:56:36Tahir Shehzad Tanoli is telling us

00:56:38there are hundreds of shops

00:56:40of Chapli Kebab in Mansehra

00:56:42but the shop of 60 years old Kebab

00:56:44is still the center of attention

00:56:46of the people of Mansehra

00:56:48my father used to do it

00:56:50he did it for 50-60 years

00:56:52then I came

00:56:54my father used to do it

00:56:56we slaughter our own meat

00:56:58we slaughter our own animals

00:57:02in the winter season

00:57:04the demand for Chapli Kebab increases

00:57:06the people of Mansehra

00:57:08have declared Chapli Kebab

00:57:10as the best food to keep themselves

00:57:12warm in the winter

00:57:14after eating this Kebab

00:57:16you don't feel the cold

00:57:18it is a very famous Kebab

00:57:20in Mansehra

00:57:22we come here to eat it

00:57:24in the winter season

00:57:26the people of Mansehra

00:57:28don't just come to eat Chapli Kebab

00:57:30but also take home

00:57:32delicious Kebab

00:57:34Tahir Shehzad Tanoli

00:57:36Airway News, Wafa Pakhal, Mansehra

00:57:38when you go to a food street

00:57:40to eat food

00:57:42the taste you feel there

00:57:44if you bring it home

00:57:46or order it online

00:57:48you don't feel that taste

00:57:50you don't feel the cold

00:57:52you don't feel the heat

00:57:54you don't feel the heat

00:57:56you don't feel the cold

00:57:58you don't feel the heat

00:58:00you don't feel the cold

00:58:02you don't feel the cold

00:58:04you don't feel the cold

00:58:06you don't feel the cold

00:58:08you don't feel the cold

00:58:10you don't feel the cold

00:58:12you don't feel the cold

00:58:14you don't feel the cold

00:58:16you don't feel the cold

00:58:18you don't feel the cold

00:58:20you don't feel the cold

00:58:22you don't feel the cold

00:58:24you don't feel the cold

00:58:26you don't feel the cold

00:58:28you don't feel the cold

00:58:30you don't feel the cold

00:58:32you don't feel the cold

00:58:34you don't feel the cold

00:58:36you don't feel the cold

00:58:38you don't feel the cold

00:58:40you don't feel the cold

00:58:42you don't feel the cold

00:58:44you don't feel the cold

00:58:46you don't feel the cold

00:58:48you don't feel the cold

00:58:50you don't feel the cold

00:58:52you don't feel the cold

00:58:54you don't feel the cold

00:58:56you don't feel the cold

00:58:58you don't feel the cold

00:59:00you don't feel the cold

00:59:02you don't feel the cold

00:59:04you don't feel the cold

00:59:06you don't feel the cold

00:59:08you don't feel the cold

00:59:10you don't feel the cold

00:59:12you don't feel the cold

00:59:14he is saying that

00:59:16he won't get any such complaint

00:59:18but he is trying to find

00:59:20these two people

00:59:22so that an action can be taken against them

00:59:24ok thank you very much

00:59:26lets take a break and come back

00:59:34welcome back once again

00:59:36lets take you back to our childhood

00:59:38kids are very fond of cartoons

00:59:40kids are very fond of cartoons

00:59:42Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther

00:59:44these type of cartoons used to come

00:59:46and its time was also very limited

00:59:48so we used to sit and watch

00:59:50those episodes daily

00:59:52missed it

00:59:54and our day was not good

00:59:56but now many innovations

00:59:58have come with time

01:00:00animation films are very popular

01:00:02they are in high demand internationally

01:00:04they are in high demand internationally

01:00:06animation film industry is

01:00:08moving forward in Pakistan

01:00:10It is being said that the animation industry in the world is worth more than 28 billion dollars.

01:00:16Pakistani film makers are also taking a step forward, which is very good.

01:00:21And some Pakistani film makers are providing good animation films to Pakistan with the help of international partners.

01:00:28So with this in mind, today I would like to welcome our two distinguished guests,

01:00:34Silas Boseki, I hope the pronunciation is correct.

01:00:38Thank you so much for joining us.

01:00:41Thank you Imran for being with us.

01:00:43And it's an honor to have you both with me today and your innovative work is very inspiring.

01:00:49And I look forward to hearing more about your experiences and the future projects.

01:00:54So thank you so much once again.

01:00:56Silas, I would like to ask the first question to you.

01:00:59What motivated you to come to Pakistan and to actually, you know, step in this kind of industry?

01:01:06Do you see there's a lot of potential and talent in animation industry in Pakistan?

01:01:11Yes, I think there's enormous potential here.

01:01:14We've just done a tour of Pakistan. This is the second time I've been to Pakistan.

01:01:19This trip we went to Lahore as well as Karachi.

01:01:23My first trip here we went to Islamabad.

01:01:25So I've got a pretty good idea of the level of talent that exists here.

01:01:29There's extremely good, as you'd expect, there's extremely talented CGI,

01:01:34which is like computer generated animation practitioners in small studios, individual creators, etc.

01:01:41But more interestingly, I think, for us is the fact that there's also a lot of creators that are very, very skilled at 2D animation.

01:01:49The kind of animation that you might see in old Disney or Warner Brothers cartoons,

01:01:53which is something that is potentially, is kind of what we like to say is future proof.

01:01:58So it doesn't age or date. It always has this kind of beautiful tactility to it.

01:02:05And that's why Warner Brothers and Disney cartoons just can keep going, you know.

01:02:09So there is people that can do that here very, very well, which is very, very rare.

01:02:13And that's something that we're really impressed by.

01:02:15And do you believe that currently Pakistan has a large enough audience for animation films in terms of children and adults audience?

01:02:24It's got a very interesting demographic.

01:02:26I'm from Japan, so we've got an aging population here.

01:02:29I believe 60% of your population is kids, basically, or teenagers.

01:02:34It's a much younger demographic here.

01:02:37So in terms of kids entertainment, I think that there's enormous potential here.

01:02:43But as you pointed out, it's not a huge market.

01:02:45But I think that the stories and the characters here really have international potential for export potential.

01:02:53And I think that the characters and stories from Pakistan, I think, can resonate with international audiences.

01:02:59And that's what we're going to be creating in some of the shows that we're developing right now,

01:03:03is local stories with comic universals that can potentially work elsewhere in the world.

01:03:08For example, EMEA, for example, the Middle East, not just Pakistan.

01:03:12And that's what really excites us about this.

01:03:14And Imran, what kind of animation films are being produced in Pakistan?

01:03:18And secondly, what do you see for the future of the industry here?

01:03:22Pakistani industry animation has a very vast history.

01:03:26If you start looking from animation, the first Pakistani animated short came with Netflix original.

01:03:32Then we had, if you look at Kids Land, a YouTube channel which has 2 billion views right now,

01:03:39an animated studio based out of Karachi.

01:03:41Then we look at Third World Studios based out of Islamabad,

01:03:44which is globally the first movie made on Unreal Engine.

01:03:50The first one.

01:03:53Then we have studios like Moonshot Animation, we have Sharper Beach,

01:03:57Ice Animation, who have been doing work primarily for the North American market,

01:04:03which means the quality exists.

01:04:05But the thing, what we want to do is…

01:04:10I think it's because of the weather.

01:04:12Yes, we are both under the weather, having a big road show.

01:04:17So the beauty of this partnership is that we want to tell local stories,

01:04:20regional stories for the global market.

01:04:22And that's why this kind of international partnership is so important.

01:04:24Okay.

01:04:25So, like, you know, you can speak in English for your audience.

01:04:30Tell us a little bit about the commercial perspective, the business perspective.

01:04:35Do you invest more there?

01:04:37I think we should drink some water.

01:04:38No, no, it's fine.

01:04:39We try to invest more there,

01:04:42where there is potential from a business perspective, a commercial perspective.

01:04:46Do you think there is potential here,

01:04:48or do you think the message, the social important issues matter more?

01:04:53Look, the first thing is that we are here to entertain children.

01:04:59And we want to take our stories, regional stories, Pakistan's stories,

01:05:03to the global market.

01:05:05Because of which our history of animation studios is very good.

01:05:08And the potential of Pakistan's stories is not just for Pakistan's consumption.

01:05:14It is for global consumption.

01:05:16We also want, like the kids here are watching Tom and Jerry's show,

01:05:19our stories, our regional stories,

01:05:22not just Pakistan's, but South Asia, Middle East, and Northern Africa,

01:05:26our stories, how can we take them to the global market.

01:05:30And that's why Silas' company, Custom Nuts of Baboon Animation,

01:05:33a company in New York,

01:05:34along with our company, ASCOP Entertainment,

01:05:36we have also made an office here,

01:05:39that we should have a presence,

01:05:40where these people come and work with local talent.

01:05:43Okay, so what kind of collaboration it is?

01:05:46Like, do you plan to incorporate traditional Pakistani cultures and stories

01:05:52into animation film you're working on right now?

01:05:55Yeah, that is the plan.

01:05:56And we're in development right now.

01:05:57We have a very famous character who's very recognised in Pakistan.

01:06:01For instance, which character?

01:06:03Can we say that?

01:06:04It's a bit of a secret right now.

01:06:05We're working on an adaption of Ibn Battuta.

01:06:12You know the character Ibn Battuta?

01:06:13Ibn Battuta.

01:06:14Yeah, so we're making a comedy adventure of Ibn Battuta

01:06:17that we believe will resonate right across the region,

01:06:23as well as it could potentially work,

01:06:25because of, as I've mentioned before,

01:06:27because we're incorporating this kind of physical humour into this,

01:06:30we also believe this could work in North America,

01:06:33as well as EMEA Europe.

01:06:36So perhaps it can go beyond Pakistan and the Middle East.

01:06:43And we're really good at that too, by the way.

01:06:45We've always created content with the aim of,

01:06:48because we work in the APAC region, the Asia-Pacific region,

01:06:52it's such an ethnically diverse region.

01:06:55We've got like 17 different languages we need to dub our content into.

01:06:58So the shows that we make really do need to be able to cross borders

01:07:01and export very, very easily.

01:07:02So we're really good at making content that travels.

01:07:04And that's the kind of those methods and techniques we use to do that.

01:07:08We will be deploying on this Ibn Battuta show that we're making.

01:07:11So, cat's out of the bag now, yeah.

01:07:13It was secret.

01:07:15When you work with international companies,

01:07:18do you face any kind of challenges or how do you overcome that?

01:07:22Well, we just need to be, yeah,

01:07:25I mean, we need to be very culturally sensitive

01:07:27and we need to be sensitive to local customs.

01:07:30We need to make sure that we have local experts working within our team.

01:07:36So every single cartoon show that we make in the Asia-Pacific region,

01:07:42whether it be some other part of South Asia or Thailand or Pakistan,

01:07:46we always have local experts working with us,

01:07:50animators, writers, musicians.

01:07:52So it's not just me and Imran working on these shows.

01:07:56Because, I mean, I live in Tokyo, I don't live in Pakistan,

01:07:59so I need people on the ground here that are experts

01:08:01at the kind of methods and techniques and storytelling that these shows incorporate.

01:08:06Otherwise, it just doesn't work.

01:08:08Definitely.

01:08:09Imran, Pakistani youth, they are in large numbers.

01:08:13They are, you know, looking forward to have a kind of stable job.

01:08:18Otherwise, people are trying to go abroad.

01:08:21How much scope is there in this industry?

01:08:23Look, there is a lot of scope.

01:08:25When we talk about animation, we always say that we are making cartoons.

01:08:29Why are you wasting your time on cartoons?

01:08:32So the animation industry is a very big industry in Pakistan.

01:08:35As I told you, there are many studios in Pakistan

01:08:37that are invoicing millions of dollars

01:08:40and employing hundreds of people.

01:08:43And their salaries are good and their benefits are good.

01:08:47Secondly, there is such a skill set in Pakistan

01:08:49that they can work with freelancers as well.

01:08:53Fiverr, Upwork.

01:08:55There are a lot of venues where they work.

01:08:57This is such a skill set where you need less education and more skills.

01:09:02So anybody can be in that profession.

01:09:04And as far as silence is concerned,

01:09:06what scope do we have in Pakistan,

01:09:08we are going to universities.

01:09:10In fact, after this, we are going to MITE University.

01:09:13We are doing workshops there.

01:09:14We are doing talent hunt.

01:09:16We were at the National College of Arts in Lahore.

01:09:20We have been to several universities.

01:09:22Yesterday, we were at the thesis of Karachi University.

01:09:26We met students there.

01:09:28So we are going to be recruiting local talent,

01:09:30especially concept artists, storyboard artists.

01:09:33And the interesting thing is that

01:09:35Silas and his partners,

01:09:37who are in L.A., Hollywood, and Burbank,

01:09:39together with them,

01:09:41we are doing a 180-hour training,

01:09:43which will be a virtual training

01:09:45for the creative community of Pakistan.

01:09:48So we are trying to give good things

01:09:50that are happening in Hollywood

01:09:52to the Pakistanis here

01:09:54through virtual training courses

01:09:56for Pakistani youth and for Pakistani creative community.

01:09:59It looks like you guys have been doing a lot of work here.

01:10:02And I hope this will turn out very good

01:10:04for Pakistanis and the industry as well.

01:10:07Inshallah.

01:10:08Thank you so much, Silas.

01:10:09Thank you so much.

01:10:10Thank you for having this opportunity.

01:10:11We really appreciate it.

01:10:13Yes.

01:10:14So as you saw,

01:10:15the industry will grow in a great way.

01:10:17Let's see.

01:10:18And very good films have been produced so far.

01:10:21And the Pakistani youth

01:10:24can take a lot of advantage of this industry.

01:10:27So there is a lot of scope here.

01:10:29And a lot of creativity.

01:10:30Your skills will be enhanced in this.

01:10:33And you will also get to learn something new.

01:10:35Let's move on now

01:10:37and talk about those heroes of the society.

01:10:40Let's talk about real heroes

01:10:42whose name is not taken.

01:10:44When we take names,

01:10:46we take the names of those who are familiar,

01:10:48who have TV appearances,

01:10:50or who are in some films.

01:10:52But there are some people

01:10:54who are the backbone of your country.

01:10:56Who is the backbone of the economy of Pakistan?

01:10:58The farmers.

01:10:59Whenever we talk about the farmers,

01:11:01we say that they have faced difficulties.

01:11:04But in our lives,

01:11:06in the lives of each individual,

01:11:08their contribution to the economy of this country,

01:11:10cannot be ignored.

01:11:12It is because of them.

01:11:14The farmer is the person

01:11:16because of whom flour, lentils, rice, sugar,

01:11:18and the basic basic things related to life,

01:11:21affect us.

01:11:23But we never remember him.

01:11:25We don't celebrate his day.

01:11:27We don't praise him.

01:11:28We don't mention him.

01:11:29So we, the farmer brothers,

01:11:31who are working hard day and night,

01:11:32tell about them,

01:11:33whether the weather is cold, hot,

01:11:35rain, storm, storm.

01:11:37They work hard

01:11:39to prepare the crop and send it forward.

01:11:41So we will talk about

01:11:43the export of Pakistan,

01:11:45on which there is a lot of focus at the moment.

01:11:47About the Pakistani government,

01:11:48that the more we export,

01:11:50the more we will get revenue from abroad.

01:11:52The biggest role is of the farmers.

01:11:54And Fatima Fertilizer Group,

01:11:56like every year,

01:11:57is celebrating the Farmer's Day this year as well.

01:12:00It is being done on behalf of them.

01:12:01The purpose of which is

01:12:02to promote the services of the farmers

01:12:03at every level.

01:12:05We have with us,

01:12:06Director of Marketing and Sales,

01:12:08Fatima Fertilizer,

01:12:09Rabeel Sardzoi Sahiba,

01:12:11who has extensive experience in sales and marketing.

01:12:13Thank you so much, Fatima, for joining me.

01:12:15First of all, tell me,

01:12:17I tried to tell the viewers,

01:12:19that the farmers are neglected a lot,

01:12:22their demands,

01:12:24and they work in very difficult conditions.

01:12:26How did you get the idea

01:12:28to celebrate their day,

01:12:29and why should we celebrate this day?

01:12:31Tell us this importance as well.

01:12:33Yes, thank you.

01:12:34Thank you for having me on your show.

01:12:36You are absolutely right.

01:12:38In your introduction,

01:12:39you mentioned the importance of the farmers.

01:12:41But I think,

01:12:42in our society,

01:12:44or your viewers,

01:12:46actually,

01:12:48the importance of agriculture or the farmers

01:12:50is so high.

01:12:51It is known in detail,

01:12:53but not in detail.

01:12:55So, I would like to talk on that first.

01:12:57You must have heard,

01:12:59and we have also heard since childhood,

01:13:01that the backbone of Pakistan's economy

01:13:03is agriculture,

01:13:06If you do it in quantifiable terms,

01:13:10then Pakistan's agriculture contributes 24% in GDP,

01:13:15which amounts to Rs. 25,000 billion.

01:13:18Not only this,

01:13:20Pakistan's agriculture gives 37% employment

01:13:23to the people in our rural community.

01:13:27And if you look at its overall component,

01:13:30then 65% of our export,

01:13:34from where we earn foreign exchange,

01:13:39comes from agriculture-related industries.

01:13:43So, if you look at its overview,

01:13:46then agriculture is very critical for our country.

01:13:50But when we saw that

01:13:52with so much criticality,

01:13:56there is no importance of the farmers,

01:13:58no one talks about the farmers,

01:14:00there is no platform for the farmers.

01:14:02This is where Fatima Fertilizer took this initiative,

01:14:05that on December 18, 2019,

01:14:09we declared Farmers' Day.

01:14:12We thought that there should be a platform

01:14:15where all stakeholders come and discuss

01:14:20the issues of farmers,

01:14:22the problems of our farmers brothers and sisters,

01:14:26what they face,

01:14:27and policymakers should address those problems

01:14:31and make policies to make it easier for them.

01:14:35Okay, tell me one thing,

01:14:37how important is the farmer-agriculture community

01:14:40to Pakistan and to us?

01:14:42Secondly, this community,

01:14:44does it include the farmer brothers?

01:14:46Do they have a role?

01:14:47Do they know?

01:14:48Do they have an understanding of this community?

01:14:50Yes, of course.

01:14:51Community is a platform.

01:14:53It is very important to highlight the importance of something

01:14:57in the society,

01:14:59it is very important to talk about it,

01:15:01to build a narrative, a discourse.

01:15:03And this is what we have been trying to do for so many years,

01:15:07that all stakeholders,

01:15:09whether it is the government,

01:15:10whether it is private companies,

01:15:13whether it is our farmers brothers and sisters,

01:15:15come together and celebrate a day,

01:15:18and understand the importance of that day,

01:15:20not only the rural communities,

01:15:21but also the urban communities,

01:15:23that where does our food come from?

01:15:28And how difficult it is for our farmers brothers and sisters

01:15:32to grow crops,

01:15:34and the food comes to our table.

01:15:37This is very important,

01:15:39as a community, as a country,

01:15:42that we need to talk about these issues.

01:15:44Okay, and when we talk about the economy,

01:15:47we say that the farmers are the backbone,

01:15:49our farmers brothers and sisters.

01:15:51But when they have demands,

01:15:54or when they have to solve some of their problems,

01:15:57we forget about them.

01:15:58First of all, tell me,

01:16:00what is the role of the farmers in the economy of Pakistan?

01:16:04How can we help them improve their situation?

01:16:09In your country, there are 8.2 million farmers,

01:16:13who run this entire economy.

01:16:17Your main vegetables are wheat, rice, sugarcane, maize, cotton.

01:16:24The influx of main crops in your country,

01:16:30is brought to you by your farmers.

01:16:33But no one talks about their problems.

01:16:35If I tell you about their problems,

01:16:38then there is a problem of yield per acre in our country.

01:16:41Our farmers brothers and sisters struggle against this.

01:16:45Impact of climate change.

01:16:48There is a lot of talk about climate change,

01:16:50but there is no research in our country,

01:16:53on how to combat climate change,

01:16:58with our farmers brothers and sisters.

01:17:01For example, there is no research on resilient seeds for cotton.

01:17:08Cotton is a very important crop for us.

01:17:11There is no talk of water scarcity.

01:17:14There is no talk of imbalanced use of fertilizer.

01:17:17There is very limited R&D in our country.

01:17:20As I told you, how critical this industry is for Pakistan.

01:17:27There is no R&D at all.

01:17:29Our farmers brothers and sisters are told about new methods,

01:17:33which are available in the rest of the world,

01:17:35so that their yield per acre increases.

01:17:38Similarly, access to finance,

01:17:41is also very limited for our farmers brothers and sisters.

01:17:45These are big problems.

01:17:47Another problem is the unstable commodity market.

01:17:49When they don't know,

01:17:51what will be the price of their crop,

01:17:55what will be the price in the future.

01:17:58There are a lot of difficulties,

01:18:00on which we have to talk to all stakeholders,

01:18:03and bring solutions.

01:18:05What role can Fatma Fertilizer play in this?

01:18:08What is your initiative?

01:18:11We have dedicated Salam Kisan to the farmers of Pakistan on December 18.

01:18:20We want all stakeholders in this country to come and talk about this.

01:18:26We organize regional events.

01:18:28We have done 30 mega-seminars across Punjab,

01:18:40where we have educated farmers,

01:18:43on how they can improve their yield,

01:18:46improve their practices,

01:18:48and what improvements they can bring for their crop.

01:18:51When all relevant people of the society,

01:18:55will talk about this,

01:18:57discuss this,

01:18:58and bring solutions,

01:19:00only then will there be improvement in this segment.

01:19:02Do you have a message,

01:19:04or an issue that you think needs to be solved on an emergency basis?

01:19:10Yes, climate change.

01:19:12The impact of climate change is on our crops.

01:19:16As you can see,

01:19:18rain,

01:19:20non-seasonal rain,

01:19:21flooding,

01:19:22and more heat, more cold.

01:19:26For this, farmers' education is very important.

01:19:29What can they do for their crops,

01:19:31for their yield?

01:19:34There is no research in our country on this.

01:19:38There is no talk in our country,

01:19:40from policy makers,

01:19:42on how to combat this.

01:19:44I think,

01:19:45it is very important,

01:19:47that as policy makers,

01:19:49we need to take a look at what we need to do,

01:19:51to combat the impact of climate change on agriculture.

01:19:55Thank you so much, Rabel.

01:19:57You were with us,

01:19:58and you highlighted a very important issue.

01:19:59Research is very important,

01:20:01and research that has been conducted around the world,

01:20:03can also be used.

01:20:05We will have to come up with an out-of-the-box solution,

01:20:07because this is what our climate change situation requires.

01:20:11Can we adopt traditional methods,

01:20:14or will we have to adopt a new system,

01:20:17such as our environment,

01:20:19such as our climate?

01:20:21When we were talking,

01:20:25we were talking about farmers.

01:20:28These are the farmers,

01:20:30because of whom,

01:20:31as Rabel was saying earlier,

01:20:34we can easily make food at home,

01:20:36take it out on a plate and eat it.

01:20:38But the way the food is prepared,

01:20:42and the hard work behind it,

01:20:44this is very important.

01:20:46Let me talk about jaggery as well,

01:20:48because it is winter,

01:20:49and the demand for jaggery is also increasing.

01:20:51The Pakistani jaggery made from dry fruits,

01:20:53in Liaquatpur,

01:20:55is not only in demand in Pakistan,

01:20:57but also internationally,

01:20:59a lot of people order it.

01:21:01In fact, jaggery is also sent abroad,

01:21:03to different cities.

01:21:05Asim Umtaz is telling us more about this.

01:21:35Jaggery is made from dry fruits,

01:21:37such as cashews, almonds, pistachios,

01:21:39walnuts, raisins, dates, peanuts,

01:21:41chickpeas, and other fruits,

01:21:43along with clarified butter.

01:21:45We extract the juice from the sugarcane,

01:21:47and then we put it in a big tub,

01:21:49and then we make it.

01:21:51We make it in a very good way here.

01:21:53In Liaquatpur,

01:21:55jaggery is very famous,

01:21:57as it is made from dry fruits,

01:21:59and clarified butter.

01:22:01It is a very high quality jaggery.

01:22:03In Pakistan,

01:22:05jaggery is used as a gift.

01:22:07This traditional way of making jaggery,

01:22:09is not only liked by the citizens,

01:22:11but also,

01:22:13it is sent as a gift to their loved ones,

01:22:15and they share their love.

01:22:17Asim Umtaz,

01:22:19ARY News, Liaquatpur.

01:22:21It is said that winter is not only famous,

01:22:23but also,

01:22:25a lot of delicious dishes are made,

01:22:27and new fruits come to the market,

01:22:29which are seasonal,

01:22:31such as dry fruits,

01:22:33peanuts,

01:22:35kiwis,

01:22:37guavas,

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 16th Dec 2024

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