Los ordenadores, los teléfonos móviles, los televisores y los electrodomésticos se han convertido en una parte de nuestra vida cotidiana y revolucionan la forma en que nos comunicamos y vemos el mundo. Pero, qué ocurre exactamente con nuestro ordenador roto, a dónde van a parar nuestros desechos electrónicos. África se ha convertido en el vertedero de Europa y América.
En un mundo conectado, donde el teléfono móvil es la estrella. ¿Tienen las radiaciones de la telefonía un impacto sobre nuestra salud?
En un mundo conectado, donde el teléfono móvil es la estrella. ¿Tienen las radiaciones de la telefonía un impacto sobre nuestra salud?
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00:00In the new family of connected devices, there is one that clearly marks a trend, the watch,
00:09which allows us to receive e-mails, see our photos and that eventually gives us the time.
00:17Then there is the product par excellence, the mobile phone.
00:20Currently, all phones are connected, the wide range of computers, all super connected.
00:28An innovative family, which we barely know, is the family of the bathtubs.
00:33We have bracelets, connected, which have the particularity of giving information,
00:38not only about our physical activity throughout the day, but also about the quality of our sleep, for example.
00:52The photographic cameras are also already connected, whether they are reflex or compact.
00:58And we are going to end up with a family of devices that are also connected, which is the family of sound.
01:04The small acoustic speakers and the charging stations, all connected.
01:10In fact, the connected products are clearly expanding, and we can say that they practically have no limit.
01:16We do not know where this will end.
01:21When we use a wireless network, we find ourselves in an electromagnetic field.
01:25Do you have customers who are concerned about that?
01:27Indeed, there are customers who ask questions, but we trust the engineers,
01:32we trust the brands that dose at very low levels so that they are not harmful to people's health.
01:52In the connected world, the mobile phone is the star.
01:56In Switzerland, 97% of the population over the age of 16 uses it.
02:01These devices communicate with each other through antennas,
02:04in an electromagnetic cloud that emits radiation constantly.
02:08But behind the enthusiasm aroused by this technology, the medical and scientific debate has turned on the alarms.
02:15Do the phone radiations have an impact on our health? And how?
02:20In the last ten years, thousands of studies have been published on this issue.
02:27The doctor in biology, Daniel Favre, has carried out an original research,
02:32published in a scientific journal of reference dedicated to apiculture.
02:36His idea is to place two intercommunicated phones, each at one end of a hive,
02:40and record the sounds emitted by the bees.
02:45It is interesting to do this with bees,
02:48because they do not have what we call psychosomatic effects.
02:52They can react or not.
02:54When a human being sees a phone, it reacts in a psychosomatic way,
02:59and can quickly show symptoms of feeling bad if it is feeling bad.
03:04The bee does not do that. It does not know that I have placed two mobile phones.
03:10And after half an hour or three quarters of an hour, I hear them react,
03:15sometimes with a lot of intensity to that disturbance.
03:25The bees move, get nervous,
03:28and we analyze their behavior thanks to the sound that the colony emits in the hive,
03:33called the singing of the worker bees,
03:36a sign that the hive is being disturbed.
03:44What does that mean exactly?
03:46This signal is one of the two messages that the colony has to give the warning of the swarm,
03:53that is, the march of the queen with a part of the colony outside the hive.
04:00Daniel Favre puts a microphone again on New Year's Day,
04:04when the telephone traffic is more intense.
04:07He records the same sound.
04:09The bees want to leave the hive,
04:12an experience that leads the researcher to elaborate the following hypothesis.
04:17Electromagnetic pollution could explain the disappearance of the bees,
04:22especially during the months of December, January and February in winter,
04:27when they have no chance of surviving outside the hive.
04:36Of the bees, but also of the men.
04:40Vincent Ruchet has not always been a farmer.
04:43He was forced to radically change his life in 2013.
04:48I worked as a technician for the big mobile telephone operators.
04:53I had about 15 devices radiating around me all day.
04:58And it was after those eight years of direct exposure
05:02that my problem arose.
05:05Vincent Ruchet became electro-hypersensitive,
05:08that is, intolerant to radiation.
05:11He was a very sensitive person.
05:14Ruchet became electro-hypersensitive,
05:17that is, intolerant to electromagnetic radiation,
05:20a phenomenon similar to the threshold effect,
05:23and whose symptoms appear when the dose has been excessive.
05:26In Switzerland, a survey carried out by the Federal Office of the Environment in 2004,
05:31revealed that 5% of the population was sensitive to waves.
05:35In Vincent's case, it is an extremely strong hypersensitivity.
05:40After about 15 minutes,
05:43I start to have the first symptoms,
05:46which are slight itching in the back of the skull,
05:49a lot of fatigue, which increases, affecting my vision,
05:53and causing terrible headaches.
05:56The permanent factors are very strong migraines.
06:01This prevents me from working, thinking, or reading.
06:05It's impossible.
06:07I just want one thing, to lock myself in a dark room and not see anything.
06:14The electromagnetic spectrum ranges from inoffensive natural terrestrial radiation to radioactivity.
06:20The most controversial fields today are those of low frequency,
06:24such as high voltage lines or electrical devices,
06:27and those of high frequency, such as telephony, antennas, and Wi-Fi,
06:30similar to those of microwave ovens.
06:34These frequencies belong to the family of non-ionizing radiations,
06:38and Vincent Rouchet is afraid of them.
06:48I left a social position that was excellent, with a magnificent salary.
06:53And now, with agriculture, I'm getting ahead with modest means,
06:58but I have revived.
07:00The engineer has not completely renounced his old life as a technician.
07:04He spends part of his time mining computers,
07:07at the request of a large number of people who are not interested in probes.
07:21Here we have the culprit, the high-frequency module.
07:25It is the one that generates Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and creates so many problems for us.
07:30A simple electronic component that we can perfectly dispense with,
07:34simply by a cable connection, which is about ten times faster.
07:39Electro-sensitive people do not reject technology,
07:43they ask that it be biocompatible.
07:46Isolated, three kilometers away from the nearest emitting antenna,
07:50Vincent Rouchet has found a solution to his problem.
07:53But today it is almost impossible to completely abstain from radiation.
07:57Swiss mobile telephony has a network of 18,000 antennas,
08:01controlled by the three operators, Sunrise, Salt and Swisscom.
08:17Switzerland is widely covered by radiation.
08:20For example, Swisscom has 5,500 antennas,
08:23large antennas to cover all of Switzerland.
08:26And there are also microcells.
08:29They are small cells that are used in cities,
08:33to provide the necessary capacity to people who want to transfer data.
08:38Have we reached 100% coverage in the inhabited Switzerland?
08:43More or less 100%.
08:46This is the look of the Swiss telephone coverage.
08:49With the GMS antennas of the first phones,
08:52the 3G and 4G.
08:55Therefore, we are all exposed.
08:58Do we play with fire then?
09:01Currently, some medical consultations
09:04are receiving a new type of patients with assiduity.
09:07This is the case of the Swisscom,
09:10which has a network of 18,000 antennas,
09:13which is receiving a new type of patients with assiduity.
09:16Tell me how he is.
09:19What has happened since a month ago?
09:22If possible, what are the problems and symptoms he has today?
09:27Few doctors take electrohypersensitivity seriously.
09:31However, near Neuchâtel,
09:34Nathalie Calam has a list of patients with this disorder,
09:37which does not stop increasing.
09:40We must be aware
09:43that we are all electrosensitive,
09:46but not all of us are electrohypersensitive.
09:49And that is the difference.
09:52There is still a large part of the population
09:55that tolerates these waves relatively well,
09:58unlike others that begin to manifest
10:01real health problems.
10:04There was a period that was not easy,
10:07my mother and my husband did not understand what was happening to me,
10:10neither did I.
10:13I was not able to say what I was suffering from.
10:16And I thought it was exhaustion,
10:19I thought it was depression,
10:22or even something worse.
10:25This patient prefers to remain anonymous.
10:28She lives in a village and is afraid of what her neighbors may think.
10:32It is necessary to understand
10:35that they suffer from diseases
10:38that often force them to leave their professions,
10:41cause family problems,
10:44and suffer losses in their social status
10:47without an identified cause.
10:50This is very painful for them.
10:53They need to be understood, to be recognized.
10:56In fact, I was the first case
10:59with whom my doctor met.
11:02He told me that he felt incapable
11:05in the face of my problems
11:08and that he could not help me.
11:11Is it currently easier for a doctor to ignore problems
11:14in front of which he has no answer than to take care of them?
11:17It is much easier,
11:20because you take responsibility for the patient's problem.
11:23Ma'am, it's your imagination.
11:26If you go to see a psychiatrist or a rheumatologist,
11:29he will tell you why you are in pain.
11:32Or go to see a sleep specialist
11:35who will explain to you why you are not sleeping.
11:38Let's say that medicine is so fragmented, so specialized
11:41that there are already few doctors who take into account
11:44the problems of their patients globally.
11:47It is much easier to prescribe something
11:50and transfer a patient to your colleagues
11:53In England, hypersensitivity is considered a disease.
11:56In Sweden, a disability.
11:59And it is considered a physical disease linked to environmental causes.
12:02But in Switzerland it is not recognized.
12:05Therefore, it will not be the federal health authorities
12:08who will make us aware of the problem.
12:16From our point of view,
12:19electromagnetic radiation does not generate diseases.
12:22And the devices considered responsible are safe.
12:25We do not see the need for an urgent action.
12:28We pay attention to the issue of non-ionizing radiation
12:31and hypersensitivity.
12:34From our point of view,
12:37it is not a priority objective.
12:43This position does not reassure everyone.
12:46Pierre Dubochet is a telecommunications engineer.
12:49He knows the electromagnetic fields very well.
12:52He carefully analyzes the invisible frequencies
12:55of our environment.
13:01The natural magnetic field is extremely weak,
13:04barely measurable.
13:07In a city like this, the artificial magnetic field
13:10is about 100 million times more powerful.
13:13And even several times more powerful, depending on the place.
13:19The microwaves used by all wireless devices
13:22create an extremely variable field
13:25that does not spread like light.
13:28We often imagine it uniform,
13:31depending on the place,
13:34at a distance of one meter or less,
13:37where there may be variations of 10 or 20 times the intensity.
13:40Which leads to the following question.
13:43Does the current emission regulation
13:46apply to electromagnetic radiation?
13:49We must know that the regulations were established very late,
13:52when all electrical equipment had already been installed.
13:55The regulation was established by the industry,
13:58so that there could be acceptable radiation values
14:01and thus avoid legal actions.
14:06These images from Norwegian television
14:09show the weight of the industry in the establishment of the regulations.
14:12The sequence was recorded during a meeting
14:15of the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers,
14:18an organization that brings together
14:21the world's telecommunications specialists.
14:24When members specialized in electromagnetic security
14:27reveal the names of their employees,
14:30we discover the following.
14:45Siemens.
14:48In fact, they are representatives of the industry.
14:51This organization has made recommendations
14:54on exposure values linked to mobile telephony.
14:57Values that have been adopted without major modifications
15:00by Europe and Switzerland.
15:07The regulations are determined not in accordance
15:10with a health protection that ensures
15:13that there is no risk.
15:16They say that above those values
15:19there is a risk of short-term biological effect
15:22and they have disguised that message saying
15:25that below those values nothing happens.
15:28Currently, in most countries,
15:31the maximum exposure value to antennas
15:34is 61 volts per meter.
15:37Switzerland has revised the regulation
15:40to 6 volts per meter the exposure
15:43in places considered sensitive to use.
15:46This includes homes, schools,
15:49work centers inside buildings,
15:52some play areas,
15:55but not outdoor public spaces
15:58or places of passage such as transport stations.
16:01Today, the hunger of operators is increasingly insatiable.
16:04They want to eliminate the restriction of 6 volts per meter
16:07for their activities.
16:10Demand continues to increase.
16:13There are predictions that ensure that in 2020
16:16the data transmission through mobile telephony networks
16:19will be 10 times higher than the current one.
16:22But it is difficult to build new antennas
16:25and that is why we ask for the limits to be raised
16:28because we have realized that it is easier
16:31to maintain existing antennas
16:34and as a maximum we can reach
16:3717 volts per meter.
16:4017 volts per meter in places of sensitive use
16:43is practically tripling the current limit.
16:46This issue of great relevance for the population
16:49was in the hands of the federal parliament
16:52in December 2016.
16:55Due to the pressure of telecom,
16:58the deputies present a motion asking for the famous rise.
17:01The national parliament accepts the motion
17:04but asks the parliament to speak.
17:07The national parliament adopts the text
17:10by a narrow majority.
17:13Subsequently, it is the turn of the council of states
17:16that has the final decision in their hands.
17:19We have heard the mobile telephony operators.
17:22There were many and they pressured us enormously
17:25to move forward as quickly as possible with that proposition.
17:28On the other hand,
17:31in this particular case,
17:34it has really been the people who suffer from intolerance
17:37to non-ionizing radiation
17:40who have written to us and have expressed their concern,
17:43their concern.
17:46On the one hand, the needs of the industry
17:49and on the other, the strict maintenance of a precautionary principle.
17:52Geraldine Savary is very clear about this.
17:55She will speak against the motion,
17:58but for her colleague, Andrea Caron,
18:01the precaution is not justified.
18:04I am convinced that the future of this country
18:07is going to be built on digital infrastructure
18:10and telecommunication is for the well-being of all citizens.
18:13I would love to live in a country
18:16where there is a powerful technology in this regard.
18:19The concern that people who claim to be hypersensitive feel
18:22is that it is a necessary sacrifice for you.
18:25I do not think it is a sacrifice.
18:28If it had been proven that there is a danger to health,
18:31we could look for a balance,
18:34but there are cases that look more like hypochondriac people,
18:37imaginary sick people.
18:40The former councilor, Olivier Francais,
18:43has authorized for a period of 16 years
18:46the installation of emission antennas.
18:49He is not open to this technology,
18:52but he begins to ask questions.
18:55I have been using Anatel for 30 years
18:58and I can see that I am healthy.
19:01However, it is true that I know people in my environment
19:04who are affected by electromagnetic radiation.
19:07Therefore, I have doubts, and as a scientist, even more.
19:10We cannot increase without more, because there is a need.
19:13Saying yes to the motion means supporting development,
19:16but voting the law leads to other consequences.
19:19My vote will be reserved.
19:22The debate begins, and the opponents take the floor.
19:28As far as this issue is concerned,
19:31I act out of humility.
19:34I consider that as a militia parliament,
19:37we are almost reaching our threshold of competition.
19:40It is very difficult to evaluate
19:43the effects of this radiation.
19:46It is very difficult to evaluate
19:49the consequences of our decision today
19:52if we increase the power of these antennas.
19:55There have been four who have abstained
19:58in the consideration of this motion,
20:01and I am one of them.
20:04I am not sure that the motion,
20:07which is a binding act,
20:10Mr. Kramer,
20:13it is possible that I vote no.
20:16I still have doubts.
20:19You can vote.
20:22And against all odds,
20:25the Council of States says no,
20:28a change of situation created by the supporters of the doubt
20:31who win by a single vote.
20:34The motion has been rejected and is closed.
20:38The increase in power of the emitter antennas
20:41is therefore postponed,
20:44and in the meantime, the current network continues to grow.
20:47In Orbe, an installation project
20:50of the operator Solt has sowed discord.
20:53They are going to install an antenna
20:56on the roof of the building,
20:59which is right next to ours,
21:02and the proximity, of course, has worried me.
21:06Jean Daniel Besson is a retired engineer,
21:09former employee of Swisscom.
21:12He knows perfectly well what the emitter antennas are,
21:15and the prospect of installing one
21:1850 meters from his house does not please him,
21:21and he is not alone.
21:24All the neighbors who reside in the vicinity of the future antenna
21:27have spoken out against the installation.
21:30When you worked for the company,
21:33was it a matter of conversation?
21:36On the technical aspects, yes,
21:39but never on the medical aspects,
21:42and it is an aspect that I discovered later.
21:45I had a particular confrontation with a neighbor
21:48who is electro-hypersensitive,
21:51something that I ignored,
21:54so I have reviewed my position a little.
21:57The neighbor of Mr. Besson lives 30 meters from the building
22:00where the future antenna should be installed.
22:03He is a professional lawyer,
22:06he was medically diagnosed as electro-hypersensitive,
22:09and must be protected in full.
22:12Since 2016 I have been electro-hypersensitive.
22:15During the day I have to wear cloth woven with silver threads
22:18to protect myself.
22:21At night I have to sleep in a Faraday cage
22:24with a silver wire cloth.
22:27If I had an antenna like this in my house,
22:30the electromagnetic field would be even higher,
22:33and at such a short distance,
22:36I would be literally irradiated with danger of death.
22:40This is what I need to sleep.
22:43It is a cloth and a carpet,
22:46both woven with silver thread
22:49and connected to the ground.
22:52Thanks to this,
22:55the electromagnetic field is filtered
22:58and the magnetic field is absorbed.
23:01This is what I need to sleep.
23:04It is a cloth and a carpet,
23:07both woven with silver thread
23:10and connected to the ground.
23:13Thanks to this,
23:16around 90% of the electromagnetic fields
23:19of low, high and hyperfrequency are filtered.
23:22The protection is not total,
23:25but this reduces the exposure.
23:28Really, my life has been undergoing changes.
23:31There is a before,
23:34I did not expect anything of all this,
23:37then a pause,
23:40and later, suddenly,
23:43the immersion in a universe.
23:46I discovered that there were many other
23:49electro-hypersensitive people,
23:52and since then,
23:55I have not stopped fighting
23:58to try not to sink.
24:01Extremely violent acufenos,
24:04at the brain level,
24:07they literally creak.
24:10Muscular pains,
24:13heart palpitations,
24:16very worrying ventricular arrhythmias,
24:19and vertigo problems.
24:22It was a kind of general discomfort.
24:26This controversy about the ORBE antenna
24:29illustrates well the deadlock
24:32in which the municipal authorities are often.
24:35An operator proposes to pay a rent
24:38to the owner of a building that accepts an antenna.
24:41The canton studies the project,
24:44and if it respects the regulations,
24:47invites the town hall to issue the installation license.
24:50The town hall is therefore trapped
24:53in the protests of its neighbors.
24:56As for the operator,
24:59SOLT, in this case,
25:02is willing to defend its interests.
25:05The competent cantonal authority
25:08has recently approved our request
25:11for an installation license
25:14that concerns this ORBE antenna.
25:17Therefore, it is now up to the town hall
25:21Finally, what risks does the town hall
25:24if you decide not to grant the installation license?
25:27What will happen to the operator?
25:30SOLT will hire its lawyers
25:33in order to obtain this installation license,
25:36despite the will of the town hall
25:39not to grant it.
25:42Will you finally face legal action?
25:45We will face legal action
25:49that the town halls themselves have often undertaken,
25:52and which they have also often lost.
25:55Alan anxiously awaits the final decision
25:58regarding the antenna.
26:01Meanwhile, he investigates the effects
26:04of the electromagnetic fields
26:07and tries to defend his rights.
26:10It seems to me that one of the basic rights of humans
26:13is the right to health.
26:17In fact, when the constitutions guarantee
26:20the right to individual freedom,
26:23what sense does it make for a person like me
26:26who can no longer go and come?
26:29Today, electro-hypersensitivity
26:32is recognized and described
26:35by the World Health Organization.
26:38But the causal relationship with electromagnetic fields
26:41has not been officially established.
26:44Scientists have objectively highlighted this syndrome.
26:47These studies were carried out by Dominique Belpom,
26:50an oncologist internationally recognized
26:53and an expert in environmental health.
26:59All these archives contain files
27:02of patients who came to my consultation
27:05for some intolerance to electromagnetic fields.
27:08It is the largest study worldwide,
27:11with 1,500 cases examined clinically and biologically
27:14during the last five years.
27:18Patients underwent neurological exams
27:21and biological tests to determine
27:24the level of vitamins and proteins.
27:27The blood flow of their brain was also measured,
27:30which led to a disturbing discovery.
27:34We observed that some regions of the brain
27:37were worse irrigated than others.
27:40This is due to a decrease in blood flow
27:43due to the fact that the red blood cells
27:46agglutinate with each other
27:49or simply due to the presence
27:52of abnormal brain blood capillaries,
27:55due to the fact that the amount of blood
27:58that passes through those areas of the brain is insufficient.
28:01From the moment a decrease in blood flow occurs
28:04in certain areas of the brain,
28:07a decrease in oxygen is produced,
28:10and when a lack of oxygen occurs at the level of neurons,
28:13which are the noble cells of the brain,
28:16in an initial stage, a neuronal dysfunction occurs,
28:19and if the exposure to electromagnetic fields persists,
28:22the destruction of neurons occurs,
28:25in which case we enter a real disease of Alzheimer's
28:28or a disease similar to the one described by Alzheimer.
28:31Here I have a normal brain Doppler echography.
28:35An echodoppler is an ultrasound test
28:38that measures the speed of red blood cells
28:41in the intracranial vessels.
28:44Here is the right temporal lobe,
28:47and here is the left temporal lobe,
28:50and as you can see, the blood flow passes perfectly.
28:53When the column is red or orange,
28:56it indicates that the blood flow is normal.
28:59Here we have the same echography
29:02of the electrohypersensitive subject,
29:05as can be seen here in this region of the thalamic capsule
29:08that corresponds to the limbic system.
29:11There are no red blood cells.
29:14An alarming observation
29:17that begins to have an increasing recognition
29:20within the scientific community.
29:24The Bioinitiative report,
29:27a study that contains more than 3,000 scientific articles,
29:31formally demonstrates that electromagnetic fields
29:34are excessively toxic
29:37and entail the risk of cancer
29:40and risks for the central nervous system.
29:43In multiple sclerosis,
29:46there are suspicions of an origin
29:49related to electromagnetic fields.
29:52Therefore, electrohypersensitivity is only the tip of the iceberg.
29:55There is a whole pathology
29:58of electrohypersensitivity,
30:01and this problem begins to have
30:04an increasing recognition
30:07by the international medical scientific community.
30:10By the scientific community,
30:13but also by justice.
30:16Recently, several sentences have been issued
30:19in favor of people who suffer from waves sensitivity.
30:22In Toulouse, a court has granted a pension
30:25to a woman recognized as electrohypersensitive.
30:28In Grenoble, justice has ordered
30:31the withdrawal of a water meter
30:34connected to a new generation of a woman's home,
30:37also recognized as electrohypersensitive.
30:40And in Brescia, Italy,
30:43the marriage court has forced the payment
30:46of an invalid pension to Innocente Marcolini,
30:49a business executive who contracted a tumor
30:53I had to talk to the United States,
30:56China, Hong Kong,
30:59fixed hours,
31:02and I had to negotiate with bank entities
31:05and financial institutions by phone.
31:08And all that took a long time.
31:11So, as I write with my right hand,
31:14I used my left ear.
31:17With my left hand I held the mobile phone
31:20or wireless phone to be able to write
31:23with my right hand and take notes.
31:26Often, the conversations lasted 20 minutes,
31:29half an hour or 40 minutes.
31:32When I hung up,
31:35I had my ear and face red and sweating.
31:38Innocente Marcolini spent six hours a day
31:41glued to the phone.
31:44He developed an acoustic neuroma in the left ear,
31:47a benign tumor that, in his case,
31:50had to be removed.
31:53He underwent a surgical intervention
31:56that did not go unnoticed.
31:59Three months after the surgery,
32:02in the middle of the face,
32:05on the left side,
32:08I lost my sensitivity.
32:11I no longer have sensitivity on this side.
32:14Where I had, as they say,
32:17a ulcer.
32:20It was an unbearable pain.
32:23Sorry to use this term,
32:26but I felt the desire to commit suicide,
32:29I could not stand it.
32:32Unable to work, he went to court
32:35to obtain a pension of invalidity
32:38and justice failed in his favor.
32:41The judge of the appeal court
32:44and the trial of marriage
32:47say that the only cause are the electromagnetic waves.
32:50This recognition of justice is a primacy.
32:53Innocente receives a pension of invalidity of 80%,
32:56but today he feels excluded.
33:02The biggest problem I had with this unfortunate misfortune
33:05was that it drastically changed my life.
33:08My job, my profession,
33:11filled me fully.
33:14Apart from the financial aspect
33:17and all that,
33:20it was a job that allowed me to discover the world,
33:23talk to people,
33:26I had my orders to 400 people
33:29and I never had any problem.
33:32Even today, after 14 years, they come to see me and greet me,
33:36I do not have the satisfaction of working anymore.
33:39I consider work as the fulfillment of oneself.
33:58In 2011, the International Agency for Cancer Research,
34:01an agency of the World Health Organization,
34:04classified the electromagnetic fields
34:07of mobile, wireless and Wi-Fi telephony
34:10as possible carcinogens.
34:13One of the most recent studies on cancer
34:16has been sponsored by the US government
34:19through its National Toxicology Program.
34:22The goal is to study rats and mice
34:25subjected to radiation from mobile telephony
34:28continuously for two years.
34:32We contacted Ron Melnick,
34:35the person who designed the research program
34:38and answered our questions from Connecticut.
34:41We tested the hypothesis
34:44that there would be no biological effects
34:47and the results say that we can refute
34:50said hypothesis
34:53because we observe effects on health.
34:56The most significant was the increase
34:59in the number of brain tumors, gliomas
35:02and an increase in the schwannoma of the heart,
35:05a benign tumor.
35:08Schwannoma of the heart
35:11is the tissue of the nerves.
35:14In this case, it was in the heart.
35:17We also observe damage
35:20in the DNA of the brain cells of rats and mice.
35:24The importance of these discoveries
35:27is their equivalence
35:30with what has been described in humans.
35:33Would you say that the use of telephony
35:36is dangerous?
35:39I would say
35:42that we have to be cautious
35:45about our way of using it.
35:48Children should be limited
35:52especially when we know
35:55that radiation penetrates deeper
35:58and more intensely in the brain of a child.
36:01A child's developing brain
36:04is more vulnerable to these agents.
36:07My advice would be
36:10that we have to be aware of it
36:13and take precautionary measures
36:16such as using headphones,
36:19sending messages,
36:22except while driving,
36:25and trying to keep the antenna
36:28of the phone away from the body.
36:31This diagnosis of the risk of cancer
36:34confirms the results of other studies
36:37in humans carried out in Europe,
36:40studies that have linked the appearance
36:43of tumors to the intensive use
36:46of radiation.
37:01The results of the study are still partial,
37:04but the American program of toxicology
37:07decided to make them public
37:10due to their relevance.
37:13In France, a law prohibits
37:16Wi-Fi in kindergartens,
37:19but in Switzerland
37:22there are no clear provisions.
37:25Sonia and Karin have a three-year-old son
37:28in a private school in Geneva
37:31who has generalized the use of Wi-Fi
37:34with a frequency close to 4G
37:37and are fighting to replace Wi-Fi
37:41with a cable connection.
37:44Sonia and I went to see the director.
37:47She has been in contact with him more than once
37:50since I focused a lot on the research.
37:53And the truth is that it has not been easy
37:56because the more I investigated,
37:59the more my anxiety increased
38:02and more knowing that every day I took my son to class,
38:05so it has not been easy.
38:08Karin wants to buy the cable,
38:11but she does not want to pay for the installation,
38:14so we will have to make a call to the parents
38:17to get the 43,000 euros that the installation costs.
38:20We are mothers of small children,
38:23we have the right to ask
38:26if we are not exposing our children
38:29to a direct danger when we take them
38:32to a school that uses Wi-Fi, for example.
38:35Karin and Sonia did not want to disclose
38:38the name of the school their children go to.
38:43In terms of connectivity,
38:46the private sector prefers the generalization
38:49of the digital announced in public education.
38:52The Moser school does not accept students under 8 years of age.
38:55But in their classrooms, Wi-Fi is present
38:58and all children have their tablet,
39:01which allows them to exercise online.
39:05When the teacher tells us
39:08that we are going to work with the iPad,
39:11the truth is that we get very happy.
39:14We prefer to work with the iPad than to write, but ...
39:17In addition, we go faster because we write less,
39:20so we move faster and do more exercises,
39:23so we learn more.
39:26In fact, we have applications to do exercises and everything,
39:29and it's more fun,
39:32and we do better.
39:36All public education departments
39:39in all countries invest in the deployment
39:42of Wi-Fi networks in schools.
39:45That promotes an extraordinary interaction
39:48that would be impossible with cable devices.
39:51We are no longer in that logic, I think.
39:54Do you have enough confidence
39:57in the legislative arsenal that regulates this field?
40:00I prefer to have confidence,
40:03that's what I can tell you.
40:06The truth is that it is very difficult for me to imagine
40:09that the industrial and economic lobbies
40:12have so much influence today, in the 21st century,
40:15on scientists and on the independence of research.
40:18I believe in the current European regulation
40:21that decided and decreed that we had the possibility
40:24to allow the use of these tools,
40:27even among the youngest children,
40:30and that their exposure did not put their health at risk.
40:35But can we really trust?
40:38In 2006, the universities of Basel and Bern
40:41analyzed about 60 studies
40:44on the danger of mobile phones.
40:47This is what the researchers discovered.
40:50Studies funded by the industry observe negative effects
40:53on health in 33% of cases.
40:56Studies funded with public money
40:59observe negative effects in 82% of cases.
41:02Conclusion.
41:05The results vary depending on the source of funding,
41:08which raises doubts about the independence of researchers.
41:11In the Parliament of Strasbourg,
41:14Michel Ribassy, an ecologist and doctor in biology,
41:17denounces this phenomenon.
41:20We have many scientific groups,
41:23and operators who publish other studies,
41:26financed by themselves, to sow doubt.
41:29It already happened with tobacco.
41:32There were experts financed by the tobacco industry,
41:35and now we have experts financed by mobile phone operators.
41:38Powerful gentlemen, Mr. Dinero,
41:41our health is secondary.
41:44When a health problem arises,
41:47it costs billions of euros to society.
41:50But we don't want to worry,
41:53because we are only concerned about the immediate effect,
41:56and we look at the short term.
41:59I try to show that if we continue like this,
42:02all scientific studies show that there will be an increase in people,
42:05that they will be intolerant to electromagnetic fields,
42:08and that we must anticipate the problem
42:11and reduce the electromagnetic fields.
42:14It is up to the MPs of the European Parliament
42:17to carry out an independent investigation,
42:20because if not, we already know the conclusion.
42:23Michel Ribassy actively fights for the creation of white areas
42:26liberated from electromagnetic radiation.
42:29In Switzerland there is none,
42:32except for this small building near Zurich.
42:35Here live about twenty people hypersensitive to waves,
42:38chemical products and other environmental pollutants.
42:41A building born after a long struggle
42:44led by Christian Schifferle.
42:53This house is for me a form of recognition
42:56of electrosensitivity and sensitivity to chemical products.
42:59It is a great victory,
43:02because it is the first project.
43:06This building is unique in Europe.
43:09Managed by a cooperative,
43:12it meets the requirements that allow to lead an almost normal life
43:15to hypersensitive people.
43:18In our house we have been careful
43:21to use as much as possible
43:24materials of organic and healthy construction.
43:27The house is protected under a shield
43:30against electromagnetic radiation.
43:33Like many other hypersensitive people to waves,
43:36Christian Schifferle is also to chemical products
43:39inside to avoid breathing perfumes
43:42or the smell of detergent from visitors.
43:45But when it comes to electromagnetic radiation,
43:48he feels protected.
43:51Here you can see that there is no radiation.
43:54We have very strict rules.
43:57It is not allowed to turn on the mobile phone.
44:00We do not have Wi-Fi and everything is connected by cable.
44:03As for telephony,
44:06we only have fixed phones
44:09and there is no emitter in our house.
44:15We have proven that the system works.
44:18Even if the sensitivities vary a lot
44:21from one person to another,
44:24we find a solution
44:27and we would like to carry out other projects.
44:30It would be great.
44:33Conventional buildings, however,
44:36are permeable to electromagnetic fields.
44:39Our houses are full of devices
44:42whose radiation goes through the walls.
44:45So some people want to know what to do.
44:48Pierre Dubochet visits the Breda family
44:51to evaluate the intensity of their exhibition.
44:54Analyzer in hand, the engineer measures the low-frequency fields
44:57emitted by electrical devices
45:00First test with the microwave oven.
45:10This indicates that we have many leaks.
45:13It means that the microwaves do not remain in the box
45:16and go out.
45:19We do not necessarily feel them,
45:22but they are present at a fairly high level.
45:25As you can see,
45:28it is perfectly audible.
45:31Here it captures a wave level
45:34that is still high enough for the microwave oven.
45:37I would say that very sensitive people
45:40could be affected by this device
45:43at a distance of 20 or 30 meters.
45:46Next to it is a DECT phone,
45:49a wireless phone.
45:52I'm going to ask you to raise your headphones.
45:58Well, I'm going to lower the volume.
46:01Here I also recommend that when you are not using the phone,
46:04leave it on its base.
46:07Because if you leave it, for example,
46:10on the table at night,
46:13and your bedroom is close enough,
46:16around your bed you will have the radiation of the DECT phone.
46:19Does that mean that when I call,
46:22my head is full of radiation because of the phone?
46:25The device emits when you call,
46:28just like a smart phone or other devices.
46:31This is how this technology works.
46:34Now it's the turn of the little Bluetooth speaker.
46:37It's amazing.
46:40And then the induction plate,
46:43which emits low frequencies.
46:46When it comes to the plate,
46:49there are two solutions to limit its effect.
46:52The first is to cook preferably the plates in the background,
46:55if we do not need to use three or four fires.
46:58The other is to take the habit of being a little further away,
47:01even if you do not feel anything and do not notice any effect.
47:04What we have learned with electromagnetic radiation
47:07is that its effect is cumulative.
47:10That means that throughout our life we receive radiation day after day,
47:13the greater the risk.
47:16Our body has a kind of memory effect
47:19and our biology gets tired of compensating for those interferences.
47:22And maybe when we are 60 or 70 years old,
47:25we will have effects on the nervous system
47:28that are very difficult to control or mitigate with drugs
47:31to have a good quality of life.
47:34I was quite impressed,
47:37especially by the microwave.
47:40Fortunately, I use it very little,
47:43which calms me down a bit.
47:46However, I have always noticed the phone.
47:49When I call, I feel very uncomfortable with that phone.
47:52I had always had cable phones
47:55and now you hardly find them,
47:58except in old models.
48:01But I think I'm going to use them again.
48:04Instead, it would cost me a lot to get rid of my induction plate
48:07and my iPad even more.
48:10I will have to make decisions.
48:13I will keep some things,
48:16but there are others that I plan to eliminate without contemplation.
48:19Another advice from the engineer.
48:22Turn off the Wi-Fi at night and put the mobile phone in airplane mode
48:25when we sleep near the device.
48:28Disconnected, they work very well as alarm clocks in the morning.
48:31Sostenberger did not apply these precautionary measures until 2011
48:34when he became intolerant of electromagnetic fields.
48:37Since then, this mechanical engineer had to learn to adapt.
48:40He has invested thousands of euros in protection,
48:43window shielding,
48:46carbon insulating paint on the walls,
48:49electrical circuit insulation,
48:52everything necessary to protect himself from radiation.
48:55His house has become healthy,
48:58like an island in a world that is increasingly hostile.
49:02The cinemas are over,
49:05the exhibitions, the visits to the museums.
49:08When our daughters give theatrical performances
49:11in the school environment,
49:14I am de facto excluded,
49:17which is quite painful too.
49:20Socially speaking,
49:23my role as a father has been reduced to the minimum expression.
49:27At one point we said to ourselves,
49:30if we cannot go to the world,
49:33we will have to make the world come to us.
49:36So we try to send invitations.
49:39Or if we have no choice but to visit someone,
49:42we always say,
49:45you will have to turn off the Wi-Fi and disable the phones.
49:48Or, for example, can we take the walk where there are no telephone antennas?
49:51For me, I loved to walk, it's a nuisance.
49:55Either I go alone or I stop going.
49:58And that is always my dilemma.
50:01Do I leave my husband alone at home like a dog
50:04or do we do something as a family?
50:07And if we want to do things as a family, it has to be here.
50:15The biggest impact is at the professional level.
50:18I have lost two long-term renewable contracts
50:21as a freelance worker.
50:24And we already know what that means.
50:27As a freelancer, you have zero income.
50:30So you are the one who carries the family weight.
50:33Yes, yes, I work part-time.
50:36And we have to live the four of us with my salary, yes.
50:42So I carry a fairly heavy load on my shoulders.
50:45Line and Merilú, for their part,
50:48learned to limit their exposure
50:51after the problems of their father.
50:54I think it must be quite difficult for him to carry.
50:57And also for us,
51:00because it obviously affects us.
51:03I think it's something that can happen to everyone.
51:06I think it's something that can happen to everyone.
51:09I think it's something that can happen to everyone.
51:12That's what's really serious,
51:15in the sense that, suddenly,
51:18someone who is very well can be affected
51:21and catch you completely by surprise.
51:28To be hypersensitive in a world connected in full development
51:31is to resign yourself to living as a marginal.
51:37From rejection to mockery,
51:40sometimes it happens for a sincere interest.
51:43All reactions occur depending on the predisposition of people,
51:46of the context.
51:49Often, when I meet people on the street,
51:52the most normal is rejection and distrust.
51:55Sometimes also a kind of compassion.
51:58I've heard people say,
52:01if that happened to me, everything would pass.
52:04So you find yourself with all the panoply of human behavior
52:07and that in just five years it will be a rarity,
52:10but unfortunately today it is less and less.
52:13At the dawn of the advent of 5G,
52:16which will require even more powerful transmission capabilities,
52:19the warnings of the scientific community
52:22are increasingly precise.
52:25Some may consider this prudence excessive,
52:28but it is increasingly difficult to ignore the effects of this technology.
52:31What price are we willing to pay
52:34to continue enjoying it?