Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky Ep. 404
On today's edition of Bruins Beat, Evan Marinofsky is joined by PWHL Broadcaster and Bruins writer for WEEI, Bridgette Proulx. Evan and Bridgette break down the injuries that the Bruins have suffered to key players over the last week, and how they will affect the lineup moving forward. Is Jeremy Swayman ready to take on the full-time goaltending role? Could this be a peek into the Bruins' future in net? That, and much more!
Topics:
Bruins had a tough night in Arizona
It’s time for Jeremy Swayman to step up
How will he perform?
The danger of any injury to Linus Ullmark
What should the Bruins do with Jake DeBrusk?
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On today's edition of Bruins Beat, Evan Marinofsky is joined by PWHL Broadcaster and Bruins writer for WEEI, Bridgette Proulx. Evan and Bridgette break down the injuries that the Bruins have suffered to key players over the last week, and how they will affect the lineup moving forward. Is Jeremy Swayman ready to take on the full-time goaltending role? Could this be a peek into the Bruins' future in net? That, and much more!
Topics:
Bruins had a tough night in Arizona
It’s time for Jeremy Swayman to step up
How will he perform?
The danger of any injury to Linus Ullmark
What should the Bruins do with Jake DeBrusk?
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00:00 Like should the Bruins trade a goalie like got that conversation a couple times
00:03 Yeah, you know
00:04 you hear it around town all the time and you probably had those conversations at the bar with the drunk guy next to you as
00:10 well, but
00:11 Listen, listen, listen, listen
00:13 Like oh
00:16 Go get a number one center
00:21 And
00:23 Welcome into the Bruins beat on CLNS media
00:33 My name is Evan Marinovsky joined today by Bridget Pruill Bridget. This is your first time on Bruins beat. Welcome
00:39 I know but I mean it feels like it's long overdue. I went to the same college
00:44 We we covered the Bruins for a while together
00:47 So I'm glad you finally got me on here
00:51 It is a long time coming it
00:53 Too long. I agree. You should have been on earlier. That's on me
00:56 You're you big thing is the big connection is UMass, right?
01:00 Like that's that should be the you should have been on like the first episode. I
01:03 There's a chance you might be the first
01:07 You met other UMass alum on this show
01:11 I don't know if we've ever had any other UMass people on Steve Buckley's the only one I thought off the top of my head
01:16 It's a UMass guy, but I'm glad that to UMass alums can catch up on the Bruins. Thank you
01:22 You need me so that you outnumber Connor Ryan
01:25 I
01:27 Need you to come back to the ninth floor so that I'm not outnumbered by all the BU people
01:31 Well, that's the thing they're everywhere and I try to get back there as much as I can
01:36 But I agree like it is just it's like Boston University
01:40 It's like a BU alumni event on the ninth floor and it just needs to change. I agree with you. It needs Scott
01:46 It's got McLaughlin Connor Ryan
01:48 Bell Fraser
01:50 Yeah, there's like five. I swear I think James Garrison does some stuff there too. He's BU
01:56 There's others that I'm definitely there's others. I'm probably blanking on like did Fluto go to BU
02:02 I actually don't know where Pluto went, but I forget where Pluto went
02:06 But I anyways a lot of BU people and and you know needs to be more UMass folks
02:12 But UMass is churning them out. There's a lot, you know your your year
02:16 the time I was there they turned out, you know, Molly Walker's off doing some great stuff with the post and
02:22 Alex Francisco works with the Patriots now. Absolutely. You got Steve Hewitt - like there's a lot out there and there's more to come
02:30 I always keep tabs on the the the Collegian and everything
02:34 I keep tabs on who's coming down the pipeline and what to look forward to
02:38 Anyways before we get into some brewing stuff you just started as one of the voices of PW HL Boston's team first of all
02:46 Congratulations, thank you. And you've been doing great. I watched the first broadcast. I watched it after the fact
02:51 I texted you and I was like I missed the game in person. Where can I watch this?
02:55 I would like to give you a hard time. It was like you didn't watch
02:58 It was like it was like like I don't know
03:01 It's like 1130 or 12 at night and I was trying to crank out an article and I'm like you really give me shit over
03:05 This like I come on. I was just kidding. I know I know a long day for sure
03:11 that was a insane first broadcast for them and it was
03:14 easily the biggest audience that I've done a broadcast in front of
03:18 Like in because it was on NASA, but it was also broadcast on TSN in Canada and Sportsnet and we had a huge
03:27 like huge ratings from Canada
03:32 There was like two million people from Canada that watched I was like that's a lot
03:36 That is that's a little bit of extra pressure
03:40 You're like you're like I hope these people don't realize I cover the Bruins and they're like Maple Leafs fans
03:45 Like I'm gonna get some crap
03:47 She is a good Canadian
03:51 Exactly
03:54 But it was awesome and I saw on YouTube it had like even that night
03:57 It had like a hundred and seventy thousand views and it had been up for I don't know an hour or two
04:02 Like oh my god, so
04:04 Congratulations on that. I'm very excited to continue to watch and to to listen to you narrate and offer observations during the games
04:11 It should be it should be great
04:13 It feels like a nice step forward with my career in broadcasting
04:19 So I'm happy and I'm happy that I'm like, obviously I'd love to do all the games
04:23 But I just do the home games which lets me keep my job covering the Bruins
04:27 So I'm still able to keep my other jobs with it, which is great
04:30 Yeah, and also the other thing is like your play-by-play is your thing because you do a lot of college hockey too, right?
04:37 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm actually the game one of the PWHL season
04:43 I was the analyst and not the play-by-play broadcaster. I noticed that I thought that was funny
04:47 I was like, all right, she's like Andy Brickley. We got it. You know, what's she gonna say here? What she got going on?
04:51 So it was good. Yeah, I'll do play-by-play later in the season, but like we kind of switch off
04:58 Yeah, that because I was gonna say you do play-by-play for college
05:01 So I'd figure like you could easily just do the play-by-play as well. So but you offer great you were great analyst - you're great analyst
05:08 Anyways, the Bruins though out west they're on a little road trip and that game against Arizona
05:15 It was like one gut punch after the other first, you know potter goes down
05:19 Then Oh mark goes down in overtime Swainman thrust in
05:24 You know, they lose they end up losing Swainman faces one shot
05:27 It obviously goes right in because the dude been sitting on the bench for like three or four hours
05:32 This Oh mark injury now. We're recording this on January 11th at 1:30 in the afternoon
05:38 So the Bruins are not doing their mornings. Exactly. We should preface at Eastern Time. They have not had their morning skate
05:45 They will not have it until I believe was 1130 Pacific Time, which is much later for us. We're recording this now
05:53 We're gonna go off the fact that that injury did not look good
05:56 Lena's homework had to be helped off the ice basically carried down the tunnel was down for a while
06:02 It sounds like a dumb question, but this this in
06:07 It's this is not good if he's out for quite a while
06:11 well
06:13 So it kind of reminds me of I'm sure you've heard this and have caught have had conversations on this podcast as well about like
06:20 Should they trade a goalie?
06:22 Like should the Bruins trade a goalie like that conversation a couple times?
06:25 Yeah, you know you hear it around town all the time and you probably had those conversations at the bar with the drunk guy
06:31 next to you as well, but
06:33 Listen, listen, listen, listen
06:36 Yeah, so here's the the reason why you
06:50 Obviously, it's a huge luxury to have to essentially number one goaltenders
06:53 But it's this failsafe
06:56 That's built in to the Bruins where a lot of teams just don't have it and the good news is that even though all mark
07:02 Could be out for a while and that injury did not look good
07:05 And by the way, Brendan Bussey already got called up. So he flew from Providence to Las Vegas
07:10 So that's a good indication that all mark is at least out for one game. Maybe the rest of the road trip, right?
07:17 So we don't know how long-term it could be it didn't look good
07:20 But the fact that Jeremy Swain is your your number two goalie or I mean he really kind of your number one goalie
07:27 But but either way
07:28 The fact that you can have him right there ready to go
07:32 makes it not as scary as if this was if this was a Linus all mark with
07:37 Brendan Bussey as the backup rather than Jeremy Swain and as the other guy that comes off and also I'm sure you
07:44 You probably watched Brood's preseason. Um, I don't know if you got a chance to see that one game that Brendan Bussey started
07:51 In preseason he was phenomenal and then that's when I heard the conversation come back up like oh, we don't need all mark
07:58 Yes one game. It was one game
08:01 Just got the wheels turning on people. I also loved
08:05 Do you remember I think it was was it last year or the year before they traded Dan Bladar?
08:11 He came in here with Calgary beat the Bruins and it was immediately like oh my god
08:16 They should have just done of Ladar and and Swain and this is ridiculous like
08:20 Yeah, oh yeah, I'm stuff is the overreaction is too much I agree with you though you nailed it
08:29 I mean, this is why you don't trade a goalie
08:31 I mean, I I I've had this conversation with Felger at this conversation with pretty much every guest of like
08:36 I screamed this at Adam Jones last year at one point during the playoffs. I
08:41 Can't imagine it
08:43 Who gave you a microphone I'm like I work here
08:47 You know who I am
08:50 Even if I don't have a microphone, I just yell at him in the hallway
08:53 Exactly. Exactly. And so that's the big thing is like you look at
08:58 just
09:00 Obviously you want to have the tandem right? I want to see this tandem in the playoffs
09:04 I want to see them try it give this a shot
09:07 You have two goalies on good contracts who were both top ten goalies in the NHL
09:11 I want to see them both
09:13 But the real reason the biggest reason and you just hit on it that you want to have two goalies is
09:19 Because if one gets hurt, you're not derailed
09:21 They're not derailed right now, right?
09:23 Like if Tuka Rask got hurt and Halak had to step in back in the day or a couple years back
09:29 Halak was good and could step in and you know play games here and there and take the load off Rask
09:35 but Halak
09:37 to my remembrance never really was a guy that you could step and put in there for a
09:42 Full, you know bunch of games on end and have him succeed and be a like impromptu starting goalie
09:47 I remember in that series against Carolina when Rask left the bubble
09:50 Halak had a really tough time against Carolina and the rest of that series and I think in this a
09:55 I think Jeremy Swain and can step in but be we're also gonna see what Swayman's got cuz
10:01 You can correct me if I'm wrong, but we have not seen Swayman for an extended period of time as the starting goalie
10:08 We haven't even seen him like we've seen all mark in the playoffs go for you know, multiple games in a row
10:14 We have not seen that yet with Swayman
10:16 So this is gonna be a big test to see like can Swayman jump in and prove in this stretch that he can be the number
10:23 one starter
10:25 Yeah, well, it's because that
10:27 His the timing of him coming up
10:31 Coincided with the Bruins having multiple good goalies right when he first came up to go is still there
10:37 then all mark so
10:39 He's always split time and you're like his he's never had a full workload
10:46 The same way like Connor Hellebuck has yeah, like he's not been like the the guy
10:53 And he's always been the younger goalie. So he's kind of been growing and learning and this year
10:59 I think you could see the confidence is there and I feel like he's gotten better each year. So
11:04 It's not that I don't think he can handle the workload
11:07 I think that the Bruins because over the last two seasons they've had this back-and-forth almost 50/50 split of the net
11:14 He hasn't gotten the prep necessarily to have this workload, but it's not that he can't handle it
11:22 Will Brennan Bussie have to come in and play?
11:25 Like 40% of the games or 30% of the games if all mark is out long term. Yes
11:31 Yes, not like we're just gonna keep Brennan Bussie on the bench
11:34 And it was going through the schedule because we were talking about this on my podcast escape pod and we're talking about
11:41 Okay, we're looking through the schedule. All right. Are you are you comfortable playing Brennan Bussie against, New Jersey?
11:47 Are you comfortable playing Brennan Bussie against Colorado?
11:49 like we're like looking through the schedule and I'm like
11:51 There's too many good teams in a row here that you're gonna play but Brennan Bussie is probably gonna get in there for one of them
11:58 so
11:59 and I know we're kind of
12:01 burying the lead or I guess we're kind of talking and the assumption that
12:08 Olark is out long term, which we don't know for sure yet, but
12:12 Based on how he went off the ice. It was I mean
12:17 It kind of looked like maybe a groin injury
12:20 Definitely awkward and the fact that he wasn't striding his legs at all
12:24 Was the concerning part to me?
12:27 Currently, I saw I was looking this up this morning is currently he's listed as day-to-day, but
12:33 That's just because they haven't had a chance to officially update
12:37 Anything it's supposed to come later on today. I haven't seen any Twitter doctors
12:42 Chime in on what they think this is usually the Twitter doctors are like when football when someone like cracks their leg in half
12:48 You'll see like a someone who's like a doctor be like I think they broke their leg. It's like, oh, thank you
12:54 I appreciate that, but I haven't seen anything anybody weigh in on this
12:57 So maybe you have I haven't so I don't know like I'm not a you know, unfortunately bridge
13:03 I don't know what you studied at UMass, but I did not study the human body
13:07 Probably have very similar
13:10 Yes, I would assume we do too. We didn't take any any like, you know class that would help us diagnose injuries in reality
13:17 Those sports journalism classes there should be some sort of class that teaches you about injuries and stuff because you gotta maybe we could identify
13:24 I'm you know, like oh that's clearly an ACL or oh, that's a groin and
13:28 We got to go back to UMass and we got to start that
13:32 You will teach that course except for we would need a real doctor to be also part of our crew
13:38 qualified
13:40 At all not even close. No, I have a business degree from
13:44 Eisenberg and
13:46 My second major was journalism. So you did both. Yeah, that's a that's a grind, but that's awesome. Hell. Yeah
13:53 I did not I graduated in three years - oh my god. You're like friggin Einstein over there. No
13:59 No, I just I don't know. I didn't have the best like college experience. I was ready to get out of there
14:05 I know you probably liked it more than I did. I was kind of just ready to get out
14:10 Well good for you that it's clearly worked out. So I'm happy to see that the Oh mark thing though
14:16 There's one thing we haven't touched on yet that I think actually might be the most important thing with this
14:21 Whatever happens with Lena Solmark. There's one thing I think that is clearly most important
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15:32 Anyways, the biggest thing to me with this with Oh mark, whatever happens whether he's back
15:38 After the Vegas game for st. Louis whether he's out for an extended period of time
15:43 My worry is that this becomes a lingering injury whether it's his groin whether it's something in his legs, you know again
15:50 It's just speculation is that this lingers and even when he comes back, it's not fully healed
15:55 It's not like this is like a this sounds dumb, but like a broken arm heals and then you can you know
16:00 You're good after that. This obviously is probably different and
16:05 My worry is that down the stretch this hampers him and obviously you have swam in there
16:11 To help out but you know, you do need both goalies fully healthy to recognize this tandem
16:17 Potential fully and that's my biggest worry is that this becomes a lingering thing for Lena Solmark and that again down the stretch
16:25 It's it's hurting him. Yeah, I think that that pretty much what you're saying means that
16:31 Medical staff is more than likely going to be very conservative in the time frame to get him back in because you don't want him
16:38 Immediately going and tweaking it again when he comes back. You don't want him playing at 80%
16:45 You don't you you need to know he has enough time to heal
16:49 Given if there's enough time in the season for him to complete that recovery process
16:54 Because I'm sure Bruins fans
16:58 Think back to the end of last year where he was reportedly not playing at his
17:04 100% I
17:07 Even asked him about it on breakup day and he said it wasn't anything worse than stuff
17:12 he's dealt with in the past, but he was not a hundred percent and I think after
17:17 Seeing to complain the playoffs that not a hundred percent in all. Yep. That's the big one
17:23 then
17:25 Fans are probably saying
17:27 Take your time heal it right and really it does fall on the goalie to give an accurate
17:34 representation of where they feel like they're at because at the end of the day the doctors can look at your scans and they can
17:41 Know that the recovery time but they have to be honest and say and really
17:45 Say whether they're a hundred percent or not because everybody wants to play I understand that
17:51 Everybody's gonna say yes. I'm ready to go but
17:55 You need to be able to give your team the best chance of winning and sometimes it's a fine line between
18:00 I'm good enough to play but not a hundred percent ready like to play my best
18:06 Bruins fans have seen that in the past in the playoffs and it still haunts most of the fan base
18:14 Well, the problem is that again, they're not honest about it
18:19 No one ever is no one ever will be and it's also tough like the hundred percent
18:23 No one's 100% by the playoffs like that's one of the other tough things
18:26 But I agree with you to get yourself as close to 100% as possible for the playoffs should be the first priority
18:33 the other thing is like I
18:35 It's like with all mark
18:38 They're not gonna be honest that's like to me that's the toughest part at least into not
18:45 I don't mean to sound like they're lying, but they want to play that there's a there's a lore of oh my god
18:51 So and so played through these injuries, you can't really do that as a goalie, right?
18:55 Like if you know the second lines, no if you're the second line center
18:59 You can do that right you can play through a bruised this and a sprained that it like you can do that
19:06 Who is that?
19:09 So that's what I was thinking but that's a little extreme so I don't want to go that's very extreme
19:16 very extreme
19:18 But goaltending you don't want to be you can't you cannot be in that position
19:23 You've got to go with the healthiest guy and that's one thing that the Bruins have fallen victim to under Cassidy and in a Jim
19:29 Montgomery last year where they went with the guy who was better in the regular season and maybe better overall
19:33 but not the most healthy and I think
19:35 You don't want that to be created again where you're going to the playoffs and all mark is that you know
19:42 55 60 percent and sway man's that like, you know
19:46 5590 percent and they're considering all mark in that situation. So
19:50 Bullies in the league if one's not if one's healthy and the other ones not it should be an easy decision
19:57 You're right. It should be a very easy decision. That's why I hope it continues. I hope it is
20:01 I hope that they stick with that and they don't because again if you go into the playoffs and
20:06 You want to use the tandem right because I think we're both on the same page use the tandem, you know
20:11 Give it give it a shot
20:13 not on our page, but
20:16 Well, I'm not
20:18 He's always just like this is stupid. There's no goalie rotations in the playoffs
20:23 This is like I know there hasn't been in the past and obviously he's the goalie. So we
20:28 Respect his opinion on that
20:31 but yes, it's like
20:33 Just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't be done
20:36 So well someone it's got to start somewhere and you have two top five goalies who actually like each other
20:42 This isn't like they're rivals like they the situation
20:46 Seems pretty conducive for this to work and if it doesn't work then you tried it, right?
20:51 Like you didn't try it last year. You were out in the first round if you try if you try it this year
20:56 You're out in the first round again. Well, then you tried both things and again
20:59 I'm not making excuses for them because God knows when they do lose in the first round this year
21:03 We're gonna be ripping them. But to me I just like use it and I get Ray Croft's the view
21:10 I know there's a lot of
21:11 Hockey guys and gals who are against it. I get it because that it's not inherent. It's not what people know
21:18 It's not the the typical thing, but sometimes you do have to go against the grain
21:22 if it's been your advantage in the regular season and
21:25 It could be your advantage in the postseason and that way when you are switching
21:30 Goaltenders, it's not a mental like it's not a psychological thing. Like oh I played bad. I'm coming out
21:36 It's like no that's it was scheduled that way, you know, you don't you're not losing cop
21:39 Yes from changing guys. Whereas, you know sway men's coming in after
21:44 in last playoffs coming in cold not playing the first part of the
21:49 Series besides like five minutes after all mark got in a fight that one
21:53 Forgot about that
21:56 Played at all and then you put them in a really tough situation in game seven and
22:01 It once again that that psychologically affects goalies, but if you if they're
22:08 happy with the rotation then coming out doesn't feel as
22:12 You know deflating as like it's not like a it's not a statement about you playing poorly
22:19 It's this is just how we're doing it. So but also there if someone's hot you want to ride them
22:26 It's it's definitely a weird line and poor goalie Bob Bob a sense of the ruins goalie coach
22:33 I feel like Montgomery threw him under the bus last year with some of the comments
22:38 Oh, well, we listened to him. It's like you're the head coach. You probably should have also thought about it
22:44 But I understand they trust Bob a sense a lot. So they put a lot of weight in what his decision would be
22:50 It's something that makes sense. Like yeah goalie Bob's around forever
22:54 He clearly knows what he's doing and has a finger on the pulse goalie
22:58 Bob may be the best goalie coach in the world
23:00 Like he's very well liked and respected and he handles a lot of prospects like from young prospects
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24:47 Good job, Evan. That was well done. Yeah, it was phenomenal. Yeah
24:52 I think voiceover acting is my next frontier. I need to conquer. I'm done with hockey
24:58 I'm done with with sports in general. I'm going on to voice acting. I think I did have one
25:03 I have had to do one voiceover for a commercial in a previous job and it was just it was so weird to me
25:10 It is odd. The script was so weird. It was fruit. So I used to live in North Carolina
25:16 It was for a Wake Forest app, which is the Wake Forest in college and like one of the lines like if you want to like
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25:29 That's a weird it is weird getting copy you have to read and it's like oh this doesn't sound like me or oh
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25:45 So I I'm fine with those but there've been ones in the past where I'm like, what what am I reading here?
25:51 But anyways, yes, so it's interesting
25:53 I we're mentioning the goalie tandem and you do worry that if this lingers and you know
25:58 As I said if all mark is at 60 65 percent and Swain is much higher in that case
26:04 You you know, maybe you bring in all mark for a game or two here or there in the playoffs
26:09 But you pretty much stick with Swain and if he continues to have those injury troubles which hits it a bigger thing
26:14 I think I'm curious if we start to see rumblings of this anywhere
26:18 or like kind of like
26:20 Podcast topics because it's a pretty good one
26:22 We've talked a lot about and we mentioned it earlier about trading one of the goalies to get something now
26:30 Let's flip that on its head
26:32 if Swain and and and and
26:34 Bussy
26:37 you know don't work out the way that we think they will and
26:40 Then D to D if D Pietro came up and he didn't work or something
26:45 Would you consider trading for a goalie if this is if again if this is long-term for Lena so mark?
26:51 Would you consider doing or you mean like offseason?
26:54 I'll say this season like deadline type thing. Would you trade for a depth goalie? No
27:00 Agreed. There's no reason. I'm shooting down my own point. But no, there's no reason
27:05 This would be more this it's a great topic for people who want to be who are fine being on the wrong side
27:12 the stupid side and arguing that side but
27:15 No, it's I mean think about the needs that they have
27:19 You're you're in need of at the top six forward or at least a middle six forward
27:25 As your bigger priority if Swain gets hurt, then you know, we might be having a different conversation
27:31 Both your well
27:33 And at that point in time, are you even buyers at the deadline?
27:37 Like what what are your real hopes of winning a Stanley Cup if both your top two goalies are are gone?
27:42 They're both injured wish let's not let's knock on some wood and I was gonna say some people are gonna be angry that you put
27:48 That into the universe, but I also again. I also just go back to like you mentioned there. They're bigger needs a
27:53 B you don't want to keep giving up future assets
27:57 and if you're gonna go if you were and I'm gonna we're just shooting this down because I think we're gonna start to see people
28:01 on social media and in other
28:05 kind of avenues mentioning this
28:07 If to get a goalie at the deadline
28:10 You're gonna have to give up a lot because there are a lot of other teams that are in way worse
28:14 Situations that do need a goalie
28:16 We're gonna be in a better position to give things up. So you don't want to give it up on an
28:21 Area that it's you know, you don't need you even in a situation where swimming
28:26 What do you even do with that goalie? Like they'd have to be a rental like this. That's the thing
28:30 You with that goalie. I that's exactly it. So to me
28:35 I'm curious if people do think it because I did see one article somewhere today
28:39 I forget where it was kind of posing the question and I was like, oh my god
28:43 I wouldn't go there. But so we're doing is we're kind of just like shoot it down, you know
28:47 We're just before it gets started. We're anticipating it. Yeah becoming a topic and we're saying no, we're not we're not doing that
28:53 That's what we're doing
28:55 Because guess what the ruins are one of the teams that have the luxury of having
29:00 Internal solutions rather than needing to go out and get one externally
29:05 So you have Jeremy Swineman as the number one external internal solution and Brendan Bussey could be a good goalie as well
29:11 He's coming out of college
29:12 He's so far in Providence had a really good career in the AHL
29:17 And in the time we saw him in the preseason he made some highlight reel saves that
29:21 Even NHL goalies wouldn't have made a few of them
29:25 So I think Bussey is a good internal solution for the backup
29:31 Give him a chance. I'm always excited to see the call-ups as well
29:36 I don't know if you're probably like that because you you're you know, you cover college hockey you cover prospects
29:43 I love to see people get a chance
29:46 Especially if they've earned it and Brendan Bussey feels like someone that would be fun to watch play
29:50 So, um, I think he could add a little bit of entertainment. Hopefully
29:55 for Bruins fans
29:57 He he gives them something to care about and and the top
30:01 So like if he plays well in the games that he comes in
30:05 Then those conversations probably die out on that. You're mentioning Evan. Like there's no need to even have
30:11 Well, that's the thing and I the other thing is like I know Bussey struggled a little bit in Providence this year
30:17 And I know D Pietro is like top 20 and some of those big goalies
30:22 Numbers are better than Bussey's this year. Yes, so I am curious
30:26 But again, I agree Bussey gets the first crack at being the backup
30:30 Temporarily, so I'm fine with that and and D Pietro has played a few NHL games, but it's not a lot
30:36 Yeah
30:37 so again
30:37 I like I'm fine with what they're doing and I think they have the as you said they have the things internally and the biggest thing
30:44 I want to see Swainman is the number one guy. I want to see it and I we mentioned it earlier
30:48 I want to see how he takes the reins on this how they use him how he does if he has to play three
30:55 Or four games in a row
30:56 Because again, like I always go back to like his time at Maine like he was peppered all the time
31:00 They used to in every game. I know college schedules are so much different
31:04 But still I do think Swainman's personality his makeup his style is suited to play a lot
31:11 So I am fascinated with these next couple of games in this next stretch to see him sort of take ownership of the net
31:17 He's a competitor. So he has it built into him to
31:21 Step up
31:23 And handle whatever workload he's gonna need his Mike Richter Award winner for best goalie. That's right
31:30 I forgot he won that yeah, he won he won that I mean he was really a steal for the Bruins
31:35 He was a late-round draft pick. They drafted him before he started his college career and you know
31:41 Having success in college because by the time he left college you'd be like, wow, that's a great goalie
31:46 We you know, but at the time that Swainman was drafted it there was a lot less known about him
31:51 He's kind of a diamond in the rough that they that they drafted I think in the fourth or fifth round. I think he was fourth
31:56 Yeah, he's and he's I like the ideal
32:00 Situation where you you go and you draft a late-round goalie and just to take a flyer and he ends up
32:07 Going on to college and being the best goalie in college at the time and then he comes and now he could be your your
32:15 starter of the future because I think most people would agree he seems to be the
32:20 Long-term plan as the Bruins started, but he's in a weird contract situation
32:25 Evan, you know this I don't know if you heard his comments right after he dealt with his
32:31 he was in a restricted free agency in the offseason and
32:34 The contract negotiations were he hated it he yeah, he was not happy
32:42 He was no openly not happy. You're like he's coming in saying this is my value and then your employer is saying no
32:49 You know, you're not worth that much. I love the idea of arbitration. I love the idea of arbitration
32:54 It's terrible. It's like that feels like crap like they're like no
32:57 No, you're worth over a million dollars less than what you think you're worth. It's like no guys and I mean so I mean so good like
33:04 Obviously he deserves more than the offer
33:08 They were giving him so that the arbitration process was a painful process for him and he said he will never do it again
33:14 so that means
33:16 He would more than likely need to be
33:18 Extended before the end of the season because he only signed a one-year deal
33:23 Because if it was any longer than that
33:25 He would he would be a unrestricted free agent, but because it was just the one year
33:30 He once again would go back into restricted free agency this offseason and he doesn't want to deal with arbitration
33:36 so I mean
33:38 him I mean
33:41 There's been no talks of the Dubrask extension by the way either
33:45 That is something that has been
33:49 Kind of under the radar this whole season, but he's at the last year of his contract
33:54 Yeah, like I said Swainman becomes a restricted free agent at the end of the year. So like
33:59 Those two extensions would be pretty important to get done at some point before
34:05 Free agency opens up. So that's a while away
34:07 But no, but also to get I mean, especially with the brus to get that done before the trade deadline
34:13 I think that's like Swainman whatever. He's an RFA you do that when you do that, but like
34:18 Dubrask I think is the huge one in terms of do you you know?
34:23 Do you trade him before then and get something for him, but you sell pretty low on him
34:27 Do you wait it out and and keep him through the deadline and see what he gives you and then let him hit?
34:33 under scoops free agency or do you
34:35 Extend him now and maybe do it a little bit cheaper than you would if he was succeeding
34:41 But you're also that's a big bet on someone who's been very inconsistent
34:45 That's a very hard situation for them that they're in in terms of that because I don't think there's a clear answer
34:50 My guess is if I had to if I was a betting man
34:53 If I was guessing they hold on to him as sort of like, you know, he's a relia
34:59 He's a fairly reliable top six winger
35:01 We'll see what we get and then when I'm restricted free agency hits if they're you know
35:05 If they can come to an agreement great if they can't then he's gone
35:08 But I to me that I think they're gonna go the Krug route
35:11 But they're gonna give him some offer at the end. Whereas with Krug they pulled the offer. So that would be my guess
35:16 I didn't I didn't like the Krug route just for the record
35:19 That was a whole that was a whole nother
35:22 contract negotiation situation that was
35:25 unnecessary, but a shebang
35:28 yeah, but
35:30 For in terms of the breast I agree. I think he's gonna be with the team to the end of the year
35:34 He's not getting traded at the deadline. I mentioned before your needs are a top six winger
35:39 Why would you trade a top six winger?
35:41 Like what would you be getting in return another top six winger like it's you're trading one thing for the other or for the same thing
35:47 So that doesn't really solve your problems and I know people can come and say oh well
35:52 They can get someone that's more consistent for Jake to wrestle
35:54 If you don't like the player then
35:56 Do you think the team that the ruins are trading him to are gonna be like, yeah here have a better winger
36:01 We're gonna give you our better winger than Jake to breath like so it just doesn't work like that
36:06 And you know what? I think he's been the number is
36:11 Obviously aren't as good for him this season as they should be but the play hasn't been bad
36:17 So no it hasn't it hasn't his upside is that if he if he gets hot at the right time
36:24 He's hot and you know, he's gone on hot streaks in the playoffs you I mean, I know that this is
36:29 Wishful thinking and like okay, you got a hope for him to be in that hot streak rather than a slump at the time
36:36 But he has a higher ceiling and higher potential than the numbers. He's been putting up right now
36:42 So if he can come out of it, then, you know, just be patient and and also he's a good penalty killer
36:48 He's he I mean I his effort has been there. He's getting shots on goal
36:54 It's just they're not they have recently they have been going in more and the points are coming up
37:01 But it was a stretch there were
37:03 Just wasn't falling for him, but kind of snake bitten
37:06 Would you sign him long term to a deal over five million per?
37:12 Like how long do you mean like three years for like, what are we I mean, I'm guessing he wants a long-term deal
37:19 So let's say five or six years. Yeah, you do that. He does want I would guess he probably would be pushing for like five
37:24 um, I
37:26 Mean you could make it
37:27 I mean going into this year coming off of last year
37:29 I would have expected the number to be higher than five million per year
37:32 So I'm even I'm even going off of this like to me
37:37 Like it's he's such a weird case because he has that 30 goal potential
37:41 But he's so inconsistent when it comes to production that if you're gonna pay five five and a half even six
37:48 Long term for someone like that. I know the caps gonna go up, but that's a worry like that's where I'm like
37:55 Maybe you do
37:57 Try to replace him either in free agency or you you know
38:03 Find the next guy somehow whether it be through trade. I know that's harder
38:06 But you know if you're gonna commit that money, that's a lot of money for that
38:10 yeah, but if
38:13 If it's five like if it's five million, he's currently already on a four million a year contract
38:18 Like I feel like five million you can do
38:20 Yeah, five million sure, but when it starts pushing six, I think it's like six. I don't think that that's a great idea
38:30 And also he hasn't made a great case for himself this season
38:33 He had an ability this year in a contract year to run the price up and that's not right
38:38 So the Bruins are I mean if they were intending on extending them all along
38:42 you know, you don't like that as numbers aren't as good but you're
38:46 Potentially gonna get a better deal out of it
38:49 if you are if you have faith in the player that the player over the next say five seasons if that's what what they agree
38:55 on is gonna
38:57 Play up to or better than a five million dollar a year contract
39:01 and by the way
39:02 Usually the longer term deals when you when you look at them at the end of the contract you're like that was actually a steal
39:08 Because yeah, I in the first year or two, but then you look back in year five and you're like, oh wow
39:13 we have this person for way less than some other wingers that are
39:17 Comparable or lesser than our winger like even the pasta nut deal we could look back on it's a huge number
39:25 Obviously, but at the end of that deal we could be you could be thinking. Oh, yeah
39:29 He's easily worth that like that's because other other guys will have signed new contracts that are gonna be higher and you're gonna be like
39:36 Yeah, and the caps gonna go up and they have me look at you know, you can look at Crosby, you know Vetchkin's number
39:42 I know a vet or Crosby always wanted to make eight point seven million because it's his number
39:46 But like a lot of guys like those contracts that were huge at the time as time goes along you look back
39:51 When that when you know, it's the end of the deal on the on the cap, it doesn't look as bad
39:55 But you don't want to be hampered down by that. I think that's the biggest thing by the way
39:59 Not to change subjects quickly
40:02 But to change subjects quickly
40:04 You know whose contract looks pretty damn good right now
40:07 Charlie Coyle that number looks real good for what and you know again
40:13 I know that the production has been spotty in the last couple of years
40:16 But for what you've asked of him this year for what you've needed out of him what he's been able to contribute at five point two
40:22 five million per
40:24 is pretty damn good and I I know that I feel like he's universally liked right now because
40:30 Well, he's a great two-way play
40:32 With the points. He's he's like a little person. No, that's a big part of it. Yeah
40:38 So nice it's kind of crazy and he's local and
40:43 He just has such a great attitude and and that's why you see him be able to adapt and take on this
40:50 Top center role or you know top two center role with the Bruins depending on what line you want to call the first line
40:59 I guess right now. It's that zaka geeky pasta not fine
41:03 But obviously a line with Marshawn on it kind of also feels like a first line. So, um
41:08 No, Charlie Coyle think about what they gave up to get him
41:13 Like Ryan Donato it's right it
41:16 goes down as one of those great moves made by Don Sweeney because
41:22 He he's fits the Bruins character for sure they needed a center he is a big body
41:30 He kills penalties so well, he's an all-around good player
41:34 I'm happy to see that he because there there were some people that were a little bit harsh on him last year
41:41 Oh, can he be a number one or number two center?
41:43 Cuz you know, he had been the number three center here in Boston a lot of people were skeptical
41:48 maybe he couldn't but he's shown this season that he has a skill set to do it and I
41:53 Think he's he's had some really good stretches this year
41:56 And you know what else was a good signing center wise which even though now he's playing as a wing currently
42:02 Pavel's akka was it was another sneaky good move by Don Sweeney to just trade
42:09 Eric holla a guy that didn't necessarily have the perfect fit in Boston for
42:13 Pavel's akka who didn't have the perfect fit in New Jersey and they both get new fresh slates and Pavel's akka has been
42:21 Great. He's been a top six player for you since you got him
42:25 And I also think when it comes time for the playoffs, I've liked zaka on the wing
42:29 I know he was great last year on the wing at times
42:31 I still think that when it comes to the playoffs you do need soccer coil down the middle
42:36 I know geeky's fit in great. So again that could change
42:39 I'm like really no I am - I am - I'm just I'm not quite there yet in terms of I think I'd rather
42:48 Zaka down the middle. The other thing is, you know when it comes to the playoffs and things get more physical and you know
42:54 It's more matchup based
42:55 Do you move geeky back to be on the right side of Patra as sort of a bigger body who?
43:01 Fits there. I don't know. It's something to think about but
43:05 Zaka's worked on both the wing and center. So again, it goes back to what you said. You can't be angry at it
43:09 It's been a good signing and he's given you value
43:11 Yeah, and he's he does a few things that other
43:16 Other players on that line, you know, whether it be a winger or center
43:21 Don't do which is he's he's a big body. He can't be moved off the puck very
43:26 easily and also
43:29 something that you notice more and more the longer that line is together is he just knows that
43:34 Pasternak is such a great playmaker and so is Zaka that if he just gets enough space if he gets open enough
43:41 Pasta will make the pass and we'll make the play and he'll just yeah
43:45 He's a tapping goal like if he's just if he's open he's playing with two guys that can get him the puck
43:50 So he's been the beneficiary of playing on a line with really high skilled
43:55 talented players and
43:57 One of the observations I've had recently is that he's sneaky smart
44:02 Like his intelligence. Yes. Yeah, I think I'm starting to think that just list kind of getting a chance to talk to you
44:10 after the game as well as kind of how he conducts himself during the game that
44:14 he's actually a very intelligent person and that helps when he's adapting to
44:20 situations where he's moving from wing to center and
44:24 Learning how to play with new line mates in a completely different team that he played for
44:27 I'm
44:29 Starting to see that he is a very smart hockey player as well as just a smart person
44:35 The high hockey IQ it never hurts and when you're up in the top six, it's a good thing
44:39 Anyways, Bridget, this has been a blast. I'm very happy that we finally had you on and you will certainly be on again
44:47 Before you go what can people look forward to from you what they should be?
44:51 What should they be on the lookout for so next thing it next big thing is I'll be broadcasting a woman's beanpot
44:58 So, oh, that'll be fun
45:00 Yep, I've been me in meetings all week and I have a coaches interview after this
45:04 But yeah women's beanpot on Ness in January 16th, and then January 23rd at TD Garden
45:10 So that'll be my first ever broadcast at an NHL rank
45:13 It's the first time the women have been playing the championship game at TD Garden
45:17 So I'm a little bit excited and nervous at the same time for that. We have a great crew. Um, so
45:24 Sofia Yerkes Kovach is gonna host our intermission
45:27 And that's awesome. I'm doing play-by-play
45:30 My broadcast partner is sunny watress and then Natalie Nori is ranked side
45:35 If anybody's heard of any of them, they probably know that those are all really
45:39 Qualified talented woman that we're having in an all-female broadcast. It's gonna be
45:45 It's something we're all looking forward to a lot. So that'll be awesome and you'll be the leader doing play-by-play
45:50 So I'm saying like that and that's gonna put the pressure back. No, we're putting the pressure. Oh, are you kidding me?
45:56 We're gonna put so much pressure on you. Oh my god
45:58 We'll tweet clips of like of like like the big a second of dead air I'm like why was there dead air?
46:08 Come on
46:13 I'm excited for it. I've seen comments from our first
46:16 Pwhl broadcast and I'm like starting to realize. Okay. Well, I'm speaking this like step up in my career that like I'm getting more exposure
46:24 but it comes with
46:26 more
46:28 Don't look at the comments
46:31 No, never do that sometimes I'll look at the ones on these and they're you like I
46:40 Actually have very nice listeners and they're like 90 per 90 to 95
46:43 Percent of the comments are like very positive or it'll be like just Bruins points and I'll read through those
46:49 Then there'll be one that'll be like, you know
46:50 Evan does this and I can't stand it or this or that or Connor this I'm like
46:54 I wish I did I get it's like then I noticed that I do those things like they're right, you know, so
47:00 Are you - you say the word like too much you sound like a daughter that's trying to get away with something like yeah
47:09 I
47:11 Put that time into other things
47:14 Come on. Luckily. I feel like a lot of it a lot of the stuff we heard after our first broadcast was positive
47:21 Good thing
47:24 Yeah, Jimmy Murphy sent me a clip of Pierre Maguire talking about me which was really weird
47:30 If you grow up watching Pierre Maguire
47:35 Cover hockey and I was like, I didn't think you would ever know who I was
47:39 But it's just weird and also really weird to think that like Billie Jean King knows who I am
47:44 Which is that is a crazy wild
47:47 But it's awesome, that's awesome
47:51 So we're excited for that and then skate podcast that comes out how many times a week for people usually three
47:56 Yeah, we try to do Monday Wednesday Friday, but obviously scheduled dependent on the Bruins and yeah
48:03 They're on tonight at 10, which is
48:05 Gonna be difficult
48:08 That's a late one. It is it is so I I agree but
48:12 Anyways, that's Bridget. I'm Evan Marinovsky you Bruins beat listeners. Have a great rest of your week
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