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- Miftah Ismail (Former Minister of Finance)
- Shahbaz Rana (Economist Analyst)
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Mariam Ayman with the program Sawaari.
00:12Today's top stories is India's ongoing war.
00:15It's been a week since the end of the war.
00:17We will talk about the progress of the war.
00:20First, we will talk to Mr. Ishaq Dard.
00:22Then we will talk about the US-Pakistan trade.
00:25It's a good thing.
00:26We will talk about the scale of the trade.
00:28We will talk about the trade in which sectors.
00:32We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:34Then we will talk about the success of P.F.
00:36This dogfight is being analyzed all over the world.
00:40We are seeing the pieces of the dogfight.
00:47We will talk about the last part of the program.
00:50Let's start.
00:51The ceasefire between Pakistan and India has been completed for a week.
00:56There has been a lot of contact on the DGMO level.
01:00The ceasefire was extended till yesterday.
01:03The probability is that the ceasefire will continue after 18th May.
01:09Mr. Dard, what speech did you hear in the Senate of Pakistan?
01:13The conversation was extended.
01:17The ceasefire was extended till 12th May.
01:20The conversation was extended till 12th May.
01:21The ceasefire was extended till 14th May.
01:22The conversation was extended till 18th May.
01:24Ultimately, it will go to the dialogue.
01:28This is a military-to-military communication.
01:31Obviously, the political dialogue will take place.
01:35The solution will be there.
01:40Sada Trump, who is on a tour of the Middle East,
01:42is not a good candidate for the Modi government.
01:48I think his political career will be ruined.
01:53President Trump has repeatedly said that this was an atomic war.
01:58Two countries were against it and it was stopped.
02:00Pakistan is praising it a lot.
02:03Listen to what President Trump says.
02:18Now, everyone is happy.
02:20In fact, I told my people, call them up.
02:22Let's start trading immediately because I'm a man of my word.
02:24I said, we're going to talk about trade.
02:27We're going to do a lot of trade conversations with Pakistan.
02:30You know, we can't forget them because it does take two to tango.
02:35And with India, I felt very certain.
02:40And with Pakistan, I also talked about trade.
02:42Oh, they would love to trade.
02:44They would love to trade.
02:45You know, they're brilliant people.
02:47They make incredible products.
02:49And we don't do much trading with them.
02:51And yet, I have a good relationship.
02:54This is music to ears.
02:55The success of our embassy in Pakistan,
02:57which was hyphenated,
02:59F-Pak was de-hyphenated.
03:02Now, India, Pakistan and Kashmir are back on the center stage.
03:06India is worried about this.
03:08They went on a diplomatic mission, a diplomatic offensive.
03:12Now, they are trying to control the damage in the world.
03:16India has formed a total of seven diplomatic teams
03:20for all the political parties in the Iraqi parliament.
03:23They will visit the countries of the Security Council
03:25as well as the major participating countries.
03:27And they will inform them about Operation Sindoor.
03:30They will talk to the committees, the governments,
03:32the think tanks and the media
03:34and try to clarify their government's point of view.
03:36The visits of the parliamentary teams are expected at the end of this month.
03:40India has targeted the defense ambassadors of 70 countries
03:43during Operation Sindoor
03:45and has decided to give a briefing on the terrorism in those countries.
03:51Interestingly, Pakistan has already done all this.
03:53We were able to contact the world very quickly on the diplomatic front.
03:58In the last two weeks, the foreign office of Pakistan
04:01has contacted the world from 70 to 80 countries.
04:04They have also kept the media with them,
04:06whether it is national media or international media.
04:08So, Pakistan is ahead in this regard.
04:10They have to start all this from India.
04:12But the Indian Defense Minister is saying
04:14that Operation Sindoor is not over yet.
04:16Is this his real position, his stated position
04:19or is this a statement for the consumption of his internal political politics,
04:23his political domain?
04:27What does the Indian Defense Minister say?
04:29Friends, Operation Sindoor is not over yet.
04:32Whatever happened was just a trailer.
04:35Whenever the right time comes,
04:37whenever the right time comes,
04:39we will show the whole picture to the world.
04:42Usually, when you see a trailer,
04:45you can easily guess the success or failure of the film.
04:50Some film trailers are so rubbish,
04:53I don't have a word for it right now,
04:55that you don't feel like watching the film.
04:57So, the trailer of Pakistan-India,
04:59which was a small clash between us,
05:02doesn't seem like the film will go towards India.
05:09But there are still sceptical voices in Pakistan
05:12who want to remain alert.
05:14There is nothing far from India.
05:18Is there any intelligence or information
05:21that PM Modi can do anything to remove the pressure on India?
05:27There is an outside chance,
05:30but the repercussions of it will definitely be fully answered by us.
05:36He is a scoundrel.
05:38He hates Pakistan.
05:40We need to keep an eye on him.
05:42We need to be ready.
05:44He will do this scoundrel thing again.
05:47On the other hand,
05:48the international media is continuously refuting India's claims.
05:52I have a report from the New York Times.
05:54They say that India appealed for a ceasefire on pressure.
05:58The American newspaper New York Times claimed
06:00that the Indian leadership thinks that
06:02the US has imposed a ceasefire on India.
06:05With the announcement of the ceasefire,
06:07the Indian government has repeatedly refuted the US conspiracy
06:10and given the impression that the ceasefire
06:12has been made between India and Pakistan.
06:14According to the New York Times,
06:16US President Trump behaved similarly with Pakistan and India,
06:19which is a major reason for concern for the Indian leadership.
06:21US President Trump used good words for both countries
06:24during the announcement of the ceasefire,
06:26which India disliked.
06:27The US President also said that
06:29India has been considering negotiations
06:32to be impossible for a long time.
06:34So what will be done now?
06:36What will be done is that
06:38such small mischiefs will be committed
06:40for their political consumption.
06:42Statements will be given.
06:44Indisputed treaty.
06:45Obviously,
06:46India announced a ceasefire in the beginning,
06:49so it will slowly come down from the escalation ladder.
06:53For now, they say that
06:55the Sindh-Tas agreement is a ceasefire
06:57and will remain a ceasefire.
07:27Terrorism by Pakistan is credibly and irrevocably stopped.
07:33A piece has come out in Reuters,
07:35in which it has revealed
07:37that what are the responsibilities of India
07:39in relation to the water of Pakistan.
07:41According to Reuters,
07:42to stop the water of Pakistan,
07:44India has begun to focus on new water projects
07:46along with the expansion of the canal on the Chenab River.
07:48Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi
07:50has ordered to complete the projects
07:52on the Chenab River, Jhelum and Sindh
07:54after the attack on Pakistan.
07:57In the major projects,
07:59an expansion of the Ranbir canal
08:01from 60 km to 120 km is planned,
08:03which flows from the Chenab River.
08:05India is allowed to extract limited water
08:07from the Chenab River for aquaculture,
08:09but by increasing the length of this canal,
08:11India will be able to obtain
08:13150 cubic meters per second of water,
08:15which is currently approximately
08:1740 cubic meters per second.
08:19According to two government documents
08:21and interviews of five people
08:23from Reuters,
08:24India is also considering such projects
08:26that will reduce the flow of water
08:28in Pakistan from the rivers
08:30allocated for this country.
08:32According to the news,
08:34Delhi has also prepared a list of
08:36hydropower projects in the area
08:38of Makboosa, Jammu and Kashmir.
08:40It is expected that after the completion
08:42of these projects,
08:44electricity production will increase
08:46from the current 3360 megawatts
08:48to 12,000 megawatts.
08:50According to the Ministry of Electricity,
08:52four of these projects will be
08:54constructed on the Chenab River
08:56and one on the Jhelum River.
08:58Today, British Foreign Minister
09:00David Lamey has come to India
09:02and he has repeatedly emphasized
09:04that both countries should
09:06abide by their agreements.
09:08We would urge all sides to meet
09:10their treaty obligations.
09:38Is there no capital in the world
09:40where you have not filed a case
09:42or acknowledged it?
10:08I would like to thank the Prime
10:10Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister
10:12and the Prime Ministers of a few countries.
10:14Similarly, I would like to thank
10:16more than 100 diplomats
10:18from the countries present in Pakistan
10:20for their briefings.
10:22Alhamdulillah, it was a huge task
10:24by the grace of Allah.
10:26Unlike 2019,
10:28India has not been able to
10:30create its own narrative.
10:32We have proved their narrative
10:34with facts and figures
10:36that it is a life waste.
10:38Eventually, the world saw
10:40that what we spoke about
10:42is the truth
10:44and we proved it.
10:46We also said that
10:48when we do something,
10:50we will make it public
10:52with transparency.
10:54There will be a time lag
10:56and we did that in Sri Lanka.
10:58It was important that the people
11:00of Sri Lanka know
11:02about the diplomatic efforts
11:04of the Indian government.
11:06I can see that there is
11:08a new narrative
11:10from the Indian side.
11:12Let's address that.
11:14First of all, the Defence Minister
11:16is saying that the operation
11:18Sindoor has not been completed.
11:20How do you interpret this?
11:22First of all,
11:24I would like to say that
11:26Pakistan has not reached out
11:28to any country.
11:30So, please get our seats fixed.
11:32On 23rd April,
11:34when they took diplomatic
11:36actions against us,
11:38they made our
11:40defence strategies
11:42non-greater.
11:44They increased
11:46the size of our
11:48High Commission in New Delhi
11:50from 55 to 30.
11:52Then they closed
11:54the Atari border.
11:56They also cancelled
11:58all Pakistani visas
12:00from the American airport.
12:02So, we repaid all of them.
12:04In the same way,
12:06we closed the Wagah border.
12:08We downsized their mission.
12:10We made their defence strategies
12:12non-greater.
12:14We also told
12:16the Indian people
12:18that we have cancelled
12:20their visas.
12:22On the night of 23rd April,
12:24when the meeting of the
12:26Indian Cabinet Committee
12:28was called,
12:30many channels
12:32contacted us.
12:34We immediately called
12:36the National Security Committee
12:38the next day.
12:40I told everyone that
12:42we will do tit for tat.
12:44We did exactly
12:46what they did.
12:48The fifth
12:50ordinary announcement
12:52was that
12:54we are holding
12:56a non-lawful
12:58airspace.
13:00We did not want
13:02to break the treaty.
13:04So, we closed
13:06our airspace
13:08for the
13:10Indian-managed
13:12and operated airlines.
13:14We did exactly that.
13:16But, as you saw,
13:18on the 13th,
13:20India took
13:22a kinetic action.
13:24Pakistan responded.
13:26We were
13:28aware of that.
13:30During this period,
13:32on the night of 6th and 7th,
13:34when we had a fight
13:36in the skies,
13:38during the intervening
13:40period,
13:42they also
13:44reached out
13:46to the world,
13:48and we categorically
13:50said that Pakistan
13:52has nothing to do with this.
13:54We are ready for
13:56an international investigation.
13:58We are ready for a permanent
14:00set-up.
14:02A few weeks ago,
14:04Jaffa Express was sent to India.
14:06We also had
14:08some evidence that
14:10the perpetrators
14:12were being connected
14:14there.
14:16On the 7th of May,
14:18in the early hours,
14:20what happened in the skies,
14:22and their six jet fighters,
14:24Alhamdulillah, Pakistan
14:26dropped them.
14:28Our brave Air Force
14:30also dropped one UAV.
14:32Obviously, they were not expecting
14:34this.
14:36As you know,
14:38there was a narrative
14:40of Supremacy.
14:42Pakistan was told that it has become irrelevant
14:44in this region.
14:46The world was ready to
14:48do anything in the name of security.
14:50We never accepted this.
14:52But, sir, as you yourself said,
14:54there was a shock.
14:56Modi had an ego. India was
14:58looking for a regional role.
15:00Do you think there is still a need
15:02to remain alert?
15:04Or will the matter
15:06escalate here?
15:08As a result of
15:10this shock,
15:12during the time
15:14between 7th and 8th,
15:16Pakistan attacked
15:1815 military installations
15:20on the night
15:22between 7th and 8th.
15:24And we did not attack anywhere.
15:26Because Allah had already
15:28given us a great victory in the skies.
15:30And the world was recognizing it.
15:32And the jets that were dropped,
15:34there were three Rafales,
15:36which are said to never fall.
15:38They cannot be dropped.
15:40So it was Allah's special favor.
15:42It was the prayers of the nation.
15:44They called it anger,
15:46embarrassment, political
15:48compulsion.
15:50They put
15:52an allegation on us.
15:54They
15:56threw four missiles.
15:58Three of them
16:00fell in Amritsar.
16:02I think they were dropped.
16:04So that the Sikh community,
16:06whom we did not cancel their visas,
16:08they were provoked
16:10to see what the Pakistanis were doing to them.
16:12And one came
16:14into our airspace.
16:16Almost within 100 km,
16:18it was engaged,
16:20it was shot down,
16:22it was destroyed.
16:24So it did not end there.
16:26They did so much
16:28embarrassment and anger.
16:30They sent 29 drones
16:32to Pakistan in the first 24 hours.
16:34Within the next 24 hours,
16:3680 drones reached there.
16:38And the whole Pakistan,
16:40it was a drought.
16:42Drones were sent to the main cities.
16:44People were in great chaos and anger.
16:46And because of this,
16:48on the night of 9,
16:50the government and the military leadership
16:52decided that
16:54enough is enough.
16:56If anything happens today,
16:58then an operation plan
17:00was authorized to the armed forces
17:02to roll it out
17:04and implement it.
17:06As we expected,
17:08on the night of 9 and 10,
17:10they did the same thing again.
17:12Noor Khan attacked the airbase.
17:14He attacked the airbase
17:16at Sorkot.
17:18Our airports,
17:20Rahim Yar Khan,
17:22Satkhar, etc.
17:24Then we started
17:26the agreed plan
17:28to roll it out.
17:30The information
17:32they had,
17:34they also did an official press release.
17:36They attacked the airbase.
17:38Again, we reached out
17:40to the main countries
17:42who were keenly involved.
17:44We told them
17:46to restrain.
17:48We told them
17:50that they were lying.
17:52And we told the world
17:54to exercise restraint.
17:56I am talking about
17:587 months ago.
18:00We told them to exercise
18:02full restraint.
18:04But if India does it,
18:06then our UN Charter
18:08Article 51
18:10says that we have to do it
18:12in self-defense.
18:14We did the first round
18:16in the same way.
18:18Our airports
18:20were given
18:22clear instructions
18:24that only those
18:26jets,
18:28the Indian jet fighters,
18:30have to be targeted.
18:32And if
18:34those
18:36payloads
18:38and missiles
18:40are dropped on Pakistan,
18:42which they did
18:4424 times,
18:4624 attempts,
18:486 locations, 4 in Punjab,
18:502 in Azad, Jammu, Kashmir,
18:52then
18:546 jet fighters
18:56fell in that process.
18:58And one UAV was destroyed.
19:00You said that
19:02Modi created more drama
19:04and aggression
19:06after the embarrassment.
19:08The situation is better
19:10now than it was
19:12in the past.
19:14DGMOs
19:16and de-escalation
19:18are happening.
19:20Will it be easy
19:22to bring India
19:24to the negotiating table?
19:26There are no toys.
19:28When we rolled out
19:30the whole process,
19:32the world's main capitals
19:34like Washington
19:36and Riyadh
19:38called us.
19:40They talked to them.
19:42India also saw
19:44that they gave us
19:46a great stress in the A-to-A flight.
19:48They settled
19:50our score
19:52in the last 48 hours.
19:54After that,
19:56there was a call
19:58from Secretary Rubio.
20:00He said that
20:02India is ready.
20:04We were in the office
20:06on 10th.
20:08Our Prime Minister
20:10was already
20:12a politician.
20:14He was told
20:16that if they are ready,
20:18we have no objection.
20:20We are also ready.
20:22If India does it again,
20:24we have the right
20:26to do it again.
20:28The second round
20:30was ground-to-ground.
20:32We did everything
20:34in defence.
20:366 were dropped.
20:38One was UAV.
20:40The ground-to-ground
20:42in the early hours of 10th
20:44was also in self-defence.
20:48The world is seeing
20:50that we offered
20:52an international investigation.
20:54India did not
20:56accept it.
20:58They did not give a positive answer.
21:00They did not give a false statement.
21:02In the second round,
21:04they said that they dropped F-16.
21:06They are bombing India.
21:08Another aspect of India
21:10is that
21:12they have identified
21:145 places
21:16for water storage.
21:18They have started
21:20a policy
21:22strategy.
21:24We have
21:26a plan.
21:28It is not appropriate
21:30to reveal it
21:32in the programme.
21:34We are watching everything.
21:36Overnight,
21:38water reservoirs do not close.
21:40We have
21:42given a strong answer
21:44to their treaty.
21:46They had a letter
21:48saying that we are
21:50intervening.
21:52We said that
21:54you cannot do this.
21:56This action is illegal.
21:58It is against
22:00international law.
22:02You cannot do this
22:04under this treaty.
22:06The next step
22:08is the military
22:10operation.
22:12There have been
22:14many rounds.
22:16De-escalation
22:18and ceasefire
22:20are holding good.
22:22Will it continue
22:24from 2018 onwards?
22:26No.
22:28They have
22:30agreed on
22:32de-mobilization and de-escalation.
22:34The army
22:36has to
22:38de-mobilize and de-escalate.
22:40They have
22:42a plan.
22:44It will take
22:46days.
22:48The next
22:50step
22:52will be
22:54dialogue.
22:56We are ready for dialogue.
22:58India has
23:00indicated that
23:02we will have
23:04an independent
23:06venue.
23:08We will have
23:10a dialogue.
23:12You have
23:14sent a delegation
23:16to the world.
23:18Do you have
23:20any suggestions
23:22from Pakistan?
23:24No.
23:26The plan
23:28is ready.
23:30One delegation
23:32will come
23:34from UK,
23:36Brussels and France.
23:38The second delegation
23:40will come from
23:42Russia.
23:44We will have
23:46foreign ministers
23:48and foreign
23:50secretaries.
23:52The third
23:54delegation
23:56will come from
23:58Russia.
24:00We will have
24:02a delegation
24:04in 2-3 days.
24:06We have
24:08approved the
24:10delegation.
24:12I have authorized
24:14the delegation.
24:16We will have
24:18a delegation in 2-3 days.
24:20How big is
24:22this development?
24:24What other
24:26role can it play?
24:28Whatever
24:30peace
24:32the world wants,
24:34when there are
24:36no other
24:38countries,
24:40we will
24:42have to
24:44do it.
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