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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 6

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00:00He's so awake right now, huh?
00:02He knows it's party time.
00:03Party!
00:04Well, Jen hasn't been responding to me.
00:07So I'm just going to head over there.
00:09You're going to go just see?
00:10Yeah.
00:11I'm just going to knock on the door.
00:12OK.
00:13Macy's invited all of the girls to go support her
00:15for this pickleball tournament that she's
00:17hosting in Scottsdale, Arizona.
00:19Jen and I were going to ride to the airport together.
00:21And this morning, she's completely MIA.
00:24Technically, I'm not back in mom talk.
00:28But I'm so grateful that Macy invited me on this trip
00:32because it's going to give me the chance to rekindle
00:35and hopefully mend some relationships that really
00:37need mending.
00:40Jen, how are you?
00:42OK.
00:43Can I come in?
00:44Yeah.
00:45OK.
00:46Oh, gosh.
00:48I'm sorry.
00:49No, you're fine.
00:50You don't need to apologize for that.
00:53Oh, gosh.
00:54It's been a while.
00:55It looks like fun.
00:57Looks like there's a party here.
01:00This is mostly Zach.
01:02This is Zach trying to convince me.
01:05What, to go?
01:06No, to just eat.
01:10I'm so confused.
01:11When we were talking yesterday, you seemed like everything
01:14was OK.
01:15I think it's just prenatal depression
01:20and a combination of just so many things
01:24I can't even figure out.
01:25Yeah.
01:26I think I first started feeling depressed
01:30when I realized what needed to change in my life
01:33and in my marriage.
01:34But it wasn't until after I found out I was pregnant
01:38that I truly hit rock bottom.
01:41Just some things happened yesterday.
01:45What happened?
01:47I don't even know what happened yesterday.
01:49Oh, Jen.
01:51Oh, my god.
01:56Oh, my god.
01:59I don't even want to talk about this right now.
02:01You don't have to.
02:03We're just going to try to figure this out.
02:07It's just not OK.
02:10Zach and I were driving in the car.
02:16And I don't know what got into me.
02:20But I just had a thought that I don't want to be here anymore.
02:35I think I just need to take care of myself and my body
02:40so I can be able to take care of this baby
02:43and take care of my kids.
02:45And you're exactly right.
02:48I never thought I would get to this point.
02:55And I don't want anyone to think of me any different.
03:02I feel bad that you're going on the trip.
03:05And then I feel bad I can't be there.
03:08Don't feel bad.
03:09Don't feel bad.
03:10You take care of yourself first.
03:12That's the priority, always.
03:14No matter what.
03:15So when somebody asks me, like, hey, why is Jen not here?
03:18Yeah.
03:19What do you want me to say?
03:24Yeah, I would just tell them that I'm pregnant and sick.
03:27OK.
03:28Because that's not lying.
03:30That is part of what's going on.
03:32Yeah.
03:33So I'm worried that you're going to miss your flight.
03:36You're fine.
03:37I don't know how comfortable I feel leaving without Zach being here.
03:40He's almost ready.
03:41Let me clean up some of this food.
03:44I'm sad Jen's not going to be able to come to Scottsdale with all of us
03:47because it's going to feel like a part of mom talk is missing.
03:50But I think she's making the right decision to focus
03:53and prioritize her mental health.
03:55I don't really know what I can do,
03:57but what I'm going to try and do is just cheer her up.
04:01Oh, my gosh.
04:02Stop.
04:05Stop.
04:06That's the only thing that I saw.
04:11You're kidding me.
04:13Oh, my God.
04:15Jen, no.
04:36I'm here to see you.
04:37I'll bring you to your knees.
04:39Baby, you're gonna believe.
05:06We don't need an invitation.
05:08Nope.
05:09We gonna pull it up.
05:10I don't want to miss your waves.
05:12Ooh, I could get used to traveling like this.
05:15Instantly take it off.
05:16Woo!
05:17Yeah, thank you.
05:18Have a good day.
05:21Woo!
05:23Oh, stripper pole.
05:24Woo!
05:25Woo!
05:26Woo!
05:27Woo!
05:28Woo!
05:29This is going to be fun.
05:30I've never been on a stripper pole.
05:32Oh, my God.
05:33Mom talk.
05:34I didn't even see that.
05:36That's so cool.
05:37Mom talks, girls trips.
05:38I mean, it could go one or two ways.
05:40Sometimes it's connecting.
05:41Sometimes it's disconnecting.
05:43But I'm really hoping me going on this trip
05:45will be a huge turning point with me
05:48and the relationship as a whole in mom talk.
05:50Everyone has to take one go,
05:52because it's actually really fun.
05:53Yeah, we.
05:54Woo!
05:55Woo!
05:56I thought I was gonna, like,
05:57do the little legs thing.
05:58Woo!
05:59Woo!
06:01Do you know who she healed?
06:02No.
06:03This is not a good idea.
06:05No, you literally could, like, bleed out, dude.
06:07You guys are going home.
06:08Yes.
06:09No, I don't have stitches.
06:10No, but you're healing on the inside, too.
06:12Be careful, be careful.
06:13All right.
06:14Hey, where's Jen?
06:15What's happening?
06:16What's going on with that?
06:17You guys are her besties, so.
06:18Yeah, no, she's really sick.
06:19Jen not wanting to come to Scottsdale,
06:21I genuinely believe she's scared to face
06:24me and Jesse specifically.
06:26I think she's just being a coward.
06:29Check your phone if it wasn't obvious enough.
06:33No, my favorite was when you were, like,
06:35in the airport for, like, five seconds,
06:36and you were like, hi, babe, I miss you.
06:38And I was like, didn't he just drop you off?
06:40No, he didn't.
06:41I had to go a whole car ride without him.
06:43Oh, OK.
06:44See, but here's the thing.
06:45We're together a lot throughout the day,
06:46but we also have our different routines.
06:48Like, he'll go to the gym for a couple hours,
06:50he goes and works and stuff.
06:51But, like, we're always in contact.
06:53Like, we never run out of things to talk about.
06:55I did hear that Brad did sleep with someone
06:58in Macy's Sinner Sunday confession box,
07:01but it's never been confirmed.
07:03I think, to me, maybe she is projecting,
07:05like, this perfect relationship.
07:06I've seen it a lot here, especially in Utah.
07:08They want everyone to think that they have, like,
07:10this perfect family and whatever.
07:12It's overcompensation for something,
07:14and I don't know what.
07:15But think about it when you had, like,
07:16best friends growing up.
07:17Like, you guys were, like, attached at the hip.
07:19That's kind of how Brett and I are.
07:23OK, ready?
07:24Yes.
07:25Woo!
07:26Woo!
07:35I got asked to host the USA Pickleball
07:37Celebrity Tournament in Arizona,
07:39and I'm so excited.
07:40I have a lot planned for this trip.
07:42I hope there are enough distractions
07:43to where the girls can just avoid the usual drama
07:46and love one another.
07:49Let's do this, girls.
07:50Look!
07:51It's fancy.
07:52My ass is asleep.
07:54Viva!
07:55Scottsdale!
07:56Scottsdale!
07:57Woo!
07:58Woo!
07:59We arrived to the villa, and it is absolutely gorgeous.
08:07It has a pool and a hot tub and a big open living room.
08:10So if we're going to fight this weekend,
08:12at least we have a mansion to do it in.
08:13Hi!
08:14How are you?
08:15Hi.
08:16Thanks for hugging me.
08:17My other friends just went straight to you.
08:20This is nice.
08:21Taylor!
08:22What?
08:23Do you want to be in this room with me?
08:24Look, this can be your bed, Tay.
08:26You can have your own bed.
08:27I will do this.
08:28I don't mind sleeping on the bunk bed.
08:29No, you're postpartum.
08:30No, I don't.
08:31I really don't mind it.
08:32No, I don't either.
08:33No, I'm going to sleep on the bunk bed.
08:34I honestly will sleep wherever you guys.
08:35Where'd the girls go?
08:36Grape is my favorite one.
08:37Where'd the saints go?
08:38There's the pickleball queen.
08:41There she is.
08:42We were wondering where you whores were.
08:44You whores.
08:45This is the party room.
08:47It seems like it.
08:48It is going to be.
08:49Not at all.
08:50Yes, question of the day.
08:51Where is Jen?
08:52Well, she's not here.
08:53Well, yeah.
08:54She's back at home.
08:55Where is she?
08:56Where is she and why?
08:57She is pregnant.
09:02I'm shocked to hear that Jen's pregnant.
09:04I don't think it's the ideal time to have a baby
09:06because her and Zach have been struggling.
09:08It is making sense that she's been a little off,
09:11but it doesn't excuse the behavior
09:13and treating your friends badly.
09:14No, I was shocked too.
09:16I don't think it was planned.
09:17It never is planned, but she hasn't like.
09:19They don't protect at all.
09:20So I feel like if you're not protecting, you're planning.
09:22What is Zach thinking with like all the chaos
09:25that's been happening?
09:26A Band-Aid baby.
09:27Yay.
09:28What?
09:29The babies don't Band-Aid anything.
09:31I am so shocked.
09:33All of us have been pregnant.
09:34All of us have experienced modes of depression.
09:36And I'm just feeling like there's no relatability
09:38going on right now.
09:39Just like harping on her for not coming on this trip.
09:43And right now there needs to be more understanding.
09:46Should we go?
09:47Yeah.
09:48Let's get ready.
09:49OK.
09:50Half of my suitcase is shoes, by the way.
09:52I feel like I smell like a freaking onion.
09:54I don't think you do.
09:55I think I do.
09:56Yeah.
09:59Ooh.
10:00Ooh, I walked right by them.
10:01Sweet.
10:02I love poppy.
10:03I am obsessed with this.
10:04I'm going with this bad boy.
10:05Gosh.
10:06Ooh, wait.
10:07I love it.
10:08Wait, this is so cute.
10:09Yeah, cute.
10:10They have a little menu right here.
10:11Serve and sip.
10:12The classic dirty pop.
10:13So which one's that one?
10:14This one.
10:15This one.
10:16This one.
10:17Wait, yum.
10:18Is it good?
10:19Yeah.
10:20It's so good.
10:21Look, he's so cute.
10:22Ooh, this is amazing.
10:23Ooh.
10:24How does this taste?
10:25It looks so good.
10:26Very cute, Jay.
10:27All right, who's saying the prayer?
10:28OK, prayer, guys.
10:29Whitney.
10:30OK, ready?
10:31Dear Heavenly Father, we're so grateful for this day
10:32and to be able to be together as a Mom Talk family.
10:33Please bless this food and bless us all.
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13:14It was inappropriate.
13:15Don't worry.
13:16All of the girls had heard Jen's depiction of Jordan's small dick so I gave Jordan a
13:20little handy and we got the ruler out, took a photo.
13:23No, I don't want to see it.
13:24Jessie.
13:26I have to.
13:28It's blurred out.
13:30I don't want to see it.
13:31It's blurred out.
13:32You don't want to see anything.
13:33No.
13:34Give the shit away.
13:35No.
13:36Eight inches.
13:37Oh my God.
13:38Right there.
13:39Jessie, that's not fucking blurred out.
13:40You can see the damn tip.
13:41It's like a thumb.
13:42Amen, amen.
13:43Lovely.
13:43Do you actually care about the friendships in this room
13:45or do you care more about how the public perceives you?
13:48Oh, I totally get in the past how it would come across
13:51like I don't care and I'm trying to work on that
13:54to make it seem like I do, because I really do.
13:57Make it seem like you do or you do?
13:59No, no, because that's what I just said,
14:01because I really do.
14:01I'm acting really hard to care about these friendships.
14:04To make it apparent that you care.
14:05Yes, thank you.
14:07Yes.
14:07Demi, did you know that Macy received an anonymous?
14:11Anonymous?
14:12Anonymous confession that said, in quotes,
14:15I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away.
14:18Holy shit.
14:19Oh.
14:22Okay.
14:29Demi, did you know that Macy received an anonymous?
14:32Anonymous?
14:33Anonymous confession that said,
14:36I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away.
14:39Holy shit.
14:40Oh.
14:41We've been together literally,
14:42or we've been apart I think five days our whole marriage.
14:44Holy shit.
14:45And we are together constantly.
14:47If it did happen, it would be like,
14:49okay, sorry you chose that.
14:51I think you always find out.
14:52The truth always comes around.
14:54It does.
14:54It does, unfortunately.
14:56I don't know who wrote on the card
14:57that there was a rumor that Brett cheated.
14:59My guess is that they're trying to stir the pot
15:01and my better guess is that it's someone
15:04who's unhappy in their own relationship.
15:06I'm not biting and there's no need to even discuss this.
15:09It's silly and it's not true.
15:12Oh, Jessie, were you really kissing Marciano
15:15at TomTom publicly?
15:16Yes.
15:17Just kidding.
15:18Who is Marciano?
15:19He's the one that was in Villa.
15:19He's from the Villa in Italy.
15:21The guy that liked Demi in Italy.
15:22So we all had a friendship.
15:24Like that's the thing,
15:25is like we actually all had fun together.
15:26Well, I'm asked about a rumor
15:27that I kissed Marciano in TomTom,
15:30which is a bar in LA, publicly.
15:32My first reaction was, if I'm gonna cheat,
15:34I'm not gonna do it publicly
15:35since that can easily be found out.
15:37So we all went out that night
15:38and we got stopped by so many people at TomTom and Sir
15:41and people kept coming up to us and things like that.
15:43And then literally like a couple of days later,
15:45there were like rumors online
15:46that we were making out at TomTom.
15:47And I was like, what?
15:49Damn, maybe they just thought I was Demi
15:51because there were drama with him and her anyway
15:53and people get us mixed up.
15:55But no, it did not happen.
15:56Also, if I was like dumb enough to do that,
15:58I wouldn't do it in public.
15:59The first time I heard about that whole situation,
16:02I didn't believe it for a second,
16:04but I was just kind of messing with Jessie
16:05and reached out and was like,
16:07oh, when were you guys gonna tell me about this rendezvous?
16:09And just kind of joking around,
16:11knowing that nothing happened.
16:12Yeah, I didn't even see it online.
16:14Oh, well, that's good.
16:15This is how the rumor mill works.
16:17It's just silly to me.
16:18Next question.
16:19Okay.
16:20I got one about me and this is so funny and not real.
16:23Jessie, are you worried Demi
16:25was willing to take a bigger contract
16:27even if it meant you potentially being dropped from the show?
16:29We can't run away from this.
16:30I know.
16:31Okay, here we are.
16:33Demi and I did have a falling out a couple of months ago.
16:36It really rocked our friendship.
16:37We had a little disagreement about money.
16:40Demi basically was willing for Jessie to be off the show
16:43if she can kind of get paid more.
16:44Jessie comes out and says, actually, I'm not gonna walk.
16:47So you can walk to me, but I'm not.
16:50For me, I just said, in my head,
16:51I just don't want money to come between all of us.
16:53And I know that I was like on another way of thinking.
16:56Demi gets on a whole nother phone call with Mom Talk.
16:58Demi's like, yeah, fuck Jessie at this point.
17:00Like, let's push her to the side.
17:02She was talking mad shit.
17:03But I also know I'm in a situation
17:05where it's different than everyone.
17:06I think if I was a millionaire, I wouldn't care either.
17:07Yeah, same.
17:10Jessie, you know, sits on an empire of this hair business
17:14and does really well financially.
17:16So it felt a little selfish to me.
17:18Emotions were high and I understood
17:20that like she felt that way.
17:21And I also don't think, and I could be wrong,
17:23but it was like her saying, specifically kick Jessie off
17:27and just give me a higher paycheck.
17:28You know, like it was like-
17:29No, she said that.
17:30I'm kidding.
17:31She did say that.
17:32That's all that she was saying.
17:33Demi was willing to let Jessie go off the show
17:36for more money.
17:37It gave me a bad taste in my mouth
17:39given that's her best friend.
17:41I do think Jessie is very forgiving to Demi
17:44and I can't quite understand why.
17:48Whitney, do you still not regret
17:51not going to Macy's baby mama launch?
17:55I feel like if I didn't make the mistake,
17:58I wouldn't have known how to make things right.
18:00Did you regret it or do you not?
18:01That's what it said.
18:03But-
18:04Is it a yes or no?
18:04I'm saying no, because I'm saying
18:06if I didn't make the mistake,
18:08I wouldn't have known how to make it right.
18:10I just feel like I would say I regret it,
18:13but wish I handled it differently.
18:14I get that.
18:16Hearing that Whitney still doesn't regret
18:18coming to my baby mama event actually has me shocked
18:20because I feel like I've done a lot
18:22to try to get her back into mom talk,
18:24to bring her on the group.
18:25I mean, I didn't even have to invite her
18:26on this Arizona trip, but I did
18:27because I'm trying to be a good friend.
18:29And so it feels like she doesn't care
18:30about what she did to hurt me.
18:33Okay.
18:34Oh,
18:36Mikayla,
18:37do you ever see you and Whitney working things out?
18:40I do not.
18:44Forgiveness may be godly,
18:45but I feel like so is sticking up for yourself,
18:48especially when someone has had a million chances.
18:50I feel like I've reached the tipping point
18:52of putting up with people's shit.
18:54I'm trying to protect mom talk and my own peace.
18:57I said, I'm fine to be cordial, but I don't,
18:58I mean, that's us working it out.
19:01Fair.
19:02All right.
19:03Guys, you made it, girl.
19:04Yeah.
19:04We're done?
19:05Yeah, we're freaking done.
19:06We did it.
19:07♪ I'm thinking wow ♪
19:11♪ I need it now ♪
19:14Okay, you guys, I saw a girl on TikTok
19:15who said she was in the ER about to get a surgery
19:17because she said she got jackhammered too hard
19:19and it twisted her ovary or something.
19:22Wow, wow, wow.
19:24Jackhammered?
19:25I looked it up.
19:26Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
19:27Also a position.
19:28What's the position?
19:29I thought it, wasn't it the leg up one?
19:32How uncomfortable.
19:34Let me get you on the big end.
19:36I want to have a conversation with Macy
19:38because I thought we were good,
19:39but with how Macy reacted during truth box,
19:43maybe I don't know where we stand.
19:46Ooh.
19:48It ain't crispy enough yet.
19:49Yummy, yummy.
19:50I'm flipping it and we're putting her back in.
19:55How are you?
19:56I'm fine, how are you?
19:58I wanted to talk to you about last night,
20:01the question that was asked.
20:03I was shocked by your reaction to it.
20:06I was like, oh, so she still
20:07is holding this grudge against me.
20:09It's not a grudge,
20:10it's more just like the guard, my guard is still up.
20:12Like, do you see where I'm coming from
20:14when I say I wasn't in the mental place?
20:17You can still regret something.
20:18How can I regret that if I was in that space?
20:21Speaking of like, oh, I regret that I wasn't there.
20:23For me, a regret is like,
20:25no, I intentionally did this,
20:26so I'm gonna go and hurt this person.
20:29No, I don't think that's what regret is.
20:31Really, are we getting into semantics here?
20:33Don't act like you don't know what the word regret means.
20:35It's literally in the dictionary.
20:37Like, how is she still not getting it?
20:39I don't understand.
20:40Nobody wanted me there.
20:41Nobody wanted me there.
20:42I didn't.
20:43You, not the rest of the women.
20:44I know, but then it was about me.
20:46You didn't have to be with them.
20:47I understand that,
20:48but what do you think would have happened if I went?
20:50You could have shut up, said hi to me,
20:51and left, not even talk to any of them,
20:53not said one word.
20:54Like, that's what it meant to me.
20:55You're right, and you know what?
20:56You're right.
20:57When he's like, raising his voice,
20:58I'm like, I feel like it's a true character
20:59that's coming out.
21:01When I was literally in the darkest space of my life,
21:03my son's father just died.
21:05I was a maid of honor in two weddings.
21:08And so,
21:11it's just hard because,
21:14I feel like I always show up for my friends,
21:16even when I'm in the darkest, like, trenches in my life.
21:18And then, it almost seems like you wanna be right,
21:20more than like, validating how I feel.
21:23I'm sorry that comes across that way.
21:25I'm not trying to be stubborn.
21:26Every time we have this conversation,
21:28I get more confused every single time.
21:30Like, I don't know what else to do at this point.
21:32Do you feel like the way that you've felt about me
21:36or not being able to move past this
21:37is because of the way that Mikaela talks about me?
21:40Why, I've always been someone in the middle,
21:42and I'm like, I don't,
21:43no one's gonna tell me who to be friends with.
21:45I feel like you're like,
21:46projecting all the stuff that's happened,
21:48and it's not just between me and you right now.
21:50Okay.
21:51So that's why I'm confused.
21:52I'm like, are you saying this to me,
21:54or are you saying this in general?
21:54I just, I think it all stems from the past.
21:56It all is coming from the past.
21:58And that's fine.
21:59Like, whatever.
22:00But I'm just saying, like, I miss what we had.
22:03Yeah.
22:04And I don't know how to get that back.
22:05Yeah.
22:06Because of someone that clearly doesn't want me there,
22:08in that space.
22:10I can't change the past,
22:11and honestly, I don't wanna talk about this any further,
22:14so I'm just ready to move forward.
22:15Hopefully, the girls can see that
22:17if I'm able to forgive Whitney and move on,
22:19despite what she did,
22:21then they should hopefully be able to as well.
22:23I'm open to friendships and, like, being friends.
22:26I'm not against that.
22:27I know.
22:28So I just want you to know that.
22:30I love you.
22:31I love you too.
22:32I really just, I'm sweaty, so.
22:34Oh my God.
22:36It's the natural deodorant.
22:37It just drips right off me.
22:39It's a little too crispy now.
22:41He wants some beef jerky.
22:44All we're having is meat.
22:45Yeah.
22:46Oh, there's grapes.
22:47Yeah, there's fruit.
22:48And grapes.
22:49This one.
22:52Are you guys good?
22:53Yeah.
22:54No, I heard you guys chit-chatting a little bit.
22:57Yeah.
22:58I'm curious how it ended.
22:59Just fine.
23:00That's good.
23:01So you guys can talk behind my back in there.
23:02I'm not talking about you.
23:04I literally sat there and listened to it.
23:06We can hear you.
23:08I just feel like you're intentionally hurting me
23:10by doing stuff to intentionally hurt me.
23:11I'm not, I'm pulling you out on your shit.
23:12You're still justifying your own behavior.
23:15I'm not justifying it.
23:16I said I didn't fuck up.
23:17No, you still can't sit here and take accountability
23:19and not say, well, this is my truth of it.
23:21And it was just the place I was in.
23:22So sorry.
23:23It sucks.
23:24I have taken accountability for every fucking thing.
23:29Have you?
23:29Every single, tell me one thing
23:31that I haven't taken accountability for.
23:32I think everyone can go down the table
23:34and tell you one thing.
23:35Kate, let's fucking do it.
23:38I want to understand where you're coming from.
23:40And I'm saying, let's get the accountability
23:43from every single person.
23:44Cause I do want to know.
23:45I fucking do want to own up to it.
23:47Great.
23:48What have I not done?
23:49Please, I want to know so I genuinely can own up to it.
23:53Please, because I know how I fucked up.
23:56Does everyone feel comfortable doing that?
23:57Cause I really want to know.
23:58I don't think anyone cares
23:59to have an actual friendship with you.
24:09I think everyone can go down the table and tell you one.
24:11Kate, let's fucking do it.
24:13Go ahead, Macy.
24:14I'm laying in bed trying to sleep
24:16because I'm a single mom of three
24:18and sleep is very rare for me.
24:20I can hear raised voices in the kitchen
24:22and I honestly want nothing to do with it.
24:26Whatever that is, it can wait.
24:28And I really just want to go back to bed.
24:32Going into a conversation and hashing out
24:34all of the behavior and the patterns and the things
24:37to me is like contradictory to where I'm at
24:41with like our friendship.
24:42So I don't see the point.
24:44Okay.
24:45But then we're all still saying
24:46you need to take accountability.
24:47And it's like, well, I'm trying to
24:49but you don't want to have a conversation.
24:51Cause you owe people that conversation though.
24:53We didn't unfollow you.
24:54It's like, you're doing these things.
24:56You're leaving the group chat.
24:56You're following everyone.
24:57You're expecting everyone to come to you and be like
24:59we'll have a conversation with me.
24:59If you have a problem.
25:00That's not true.
25:01I'm trying to make an effort to have a conversation.
25:04After you did.
25:04You're like, well, no, you could have reached out to me.
25:06You could have called me, but I don't want people to call me.
25:07Wait, what the actual fuck?
25:09No, I'm saying, please, can I please?
25:11It's on camera.
25:12I watched it.
25:13Okay, great.
25:14I'm saying now I would love to have a conversation
25:16with each person, which I tried to do
25:17at the beginning of the season.
25:19And the only person, the only person.
25:21Yeah, no fucking shit.
25:22We're on a reality show, Michaela.
25:24What the fuck?
25:24Don't talk down to me.
25:25Cause if you're going to be disrespectful, you can leave.
25:27Don't talk down to me.
25:30I'm not talking down to you.
25:30I'm holding you accountable for your shit.
25:32Cause you can't see it yourself.
25:33Right, okay.
25:34I think what Michaela is saying is
25:36that we all recognize the behavior.
25:38Yeah.
25:39We recognize the patterns.
25:40There's been multiple times where she'll be like,
25:42well, she's told me that she feels really bad about that.
25:44And we're like, well, that's great.
25:45I know she told you that she feels bad
25:46about what she did to Jesse,
25:47but like, she needs to tell Jesse.
25:49Yeah.
25:49But then when you sit down and have a conversation,
25:51it's like, I don't understand what I feel bad for.
25:53Sorry, that was just an example.
25:54I'm going to go grab the curling iron.
25:55I'm going to start your hair while we wait.
25:56Okay, thank you.
25:57Yeah.
25:58I have to leave at one.
25:59Yeah.
26:00So I have to get ready.
26:01It is just baffling.
26:03The amount of offenses that this woman has under her belt.
26:07But I'm choosing to kind of like recognize the effort
26:10and move forward.
26:11But I understand why Michaela is not there yet.
26:14I think it's going to come down to self-reflection
26:16and healing for you, honestly.
26:17Because no matter how many times we sit here and tell you,
26:20she just wants to hear that you care.
26:21She just wants to hear that you regret that.
26:24It's not sinking in.
26:26And that's concerning.
26:29I initially was very excited
26:31and happy to be invited on this girl's trip,
26:33but I'm not going to lie.
26:35These girls are getting so deep
26:36and it's becoming apparent
26:38that there's a lot of history here, a lot of resentment.
26:41And I can't help but wonder
26:43if this is what women supporting women looks like,
26:46because it certainly doesn't feel like it.
26:47I see both sides.
26:49I do.
26:50I think there's disconnect.
26:50So if I texted you to hang out,
26:51you'd go hang out with me?
26:52Of course, Whitney.
26:53Really?
26:55I can see and feel certain relationships
26:57in MomTalk moving forward, especially with Demi.
27:00I appreciate everyone being so willing
27:02to have these conversations.
27:04Obviously not Michaela.
27:05I don't think she'll ever want to accept my apology.
27:07And I mean, like, isn't that what we preach in MomTalk?
27:12Forgiveness?
27:12Well, I just wanted to let you guys know
27:14that I did schedule us a club tonight
27:16and it's super cute.
27:18It's called, like, Cake.
27:18And it says, like, let them eat cake.
27:20And it's like, it's a super cute, like, nightclub.
27:22So Macy can come for that.
27:23We'll go to dinner and then we'll go to that.
27:24Cute.
27:25Okay.
27:26Love it.
27:27I think my thing will go a little bit longer.
27:28So I'll meet you at the restaurant.
27:29Wait, so we're not even hanging out with you
27:30at the pickleball thing?
27:30I think, I think you can.
27:32I know you guys have, like, a VIP section
27:33that they reserved for you guys.
27:35But you're a workaholic.
27:37Mommy has to work.
27:38You want to put on some deodorant so you're not stinky?
27:41Stinky.
27:43Okay.
27:44You know where this one goes?
27:45Stinky.
27:46Where does it go?
27:46It goes right there.
27:47There.
27:48Under your armpit.
27:49Oh.
27:50Jen hasn't been doing well.
27:52She's been having a hard time getting out of bed.
27:54And we just realized we needed to get Jen the help she needs
27:59to honestly get better and get to a more stable place.
28:02Okay, should we do your hair now?
28:03Yeah.
28:04Okay.
28:05Okay.
28:06Okay.
28:07Okay.
28:08It's been really hard just her being pregnant
28:10with our next child and having two children
28:13trying to show up for them.
28:15And I think when you face a really serious
28:18mental health crisis, you kind of take a step back
28:21and realize what, what really matters.
28:25Come hop on my shoulders and we'll go up and see mama.
28:27Hold on tight.
28:28Okay.
28:29Okay.
28:30Okay.
28:31Okay.
28:32Okay.
28:33Okay.
28:33Okay.
28:34Okay.
28:35Okay.
28:36Okay.
28:37Okay.
28:42There she is.
28:44You guys want to say good morning to mama?
28:49How are you feeling?
28:50I'm feeling awful.
28:53Zach is trying to support me in what I need,
28:57but it's been a lot.
28:58It's been for sure
29:03one of the hardest seasons of my life physically
29:06and mentally.
29:08Whether it's prenatal depression or postpartum,
29:11I think a lot of mothers feel like they don't deserve help,
29:16but in reality, like we need help too.
29:20As of right now, I need to take a step back from mom talk
29:26and solely focus on my mental health and this baby
29:30so I can be the best version of myself
29:34for everyone around me.
29:37I'm sorry sweetie.
29:38Whoa, whoa.
29:55Are we ready?
29:57Good jack so far, again.
30:02They're so good.
30:03One, two, three, Macy's!
30:10Look at your ass in the sun, man!
30:14Macy is hosting this celebrity pickleball event,
30:17and it's so cool to see this full-circle moment for her.
30:20She was a BYU tennis athlete,
30:22and now she's hosting this event that's on TV,
30:24and she's just in her element.
30:26Wait, is it instinct or backstreet boy?
30:28Which one? Instinct? Okay.
30:31Go, Macy!
30:36Being a star athlete and now turning that into hosting an event like this
30:39is so exciting and inspiring.
30:43Macy is here, you guys.
30:49It just feels good when you see your friends support you.
30:51That's the part of mom talk that I love,
30:53is that we can always be there to support each other,
30:55regardless of who hates who in the group.
31:01Hi!
31:03I have a reservation under Macy Neely.
31:06This is cute!
31:16Thank you!
31:17Ladies, welcome to Call Up.
31:18We are so happy to have y'all here.
31:20What is it?
31:21Perfect, so this is a mocktail shot of the Mango Amore.
31:24Okay, guys, how are we feeling about today?
31:27How are we feeling about today?
31:29Well, I was actually going to ask,
31:30how do you think last night went?
31:32Like, the true thoughts.
31:33It was awkward at times, but...
31:35Wait, I had a question about last night, though.
31:37What?
31:38With Demi asking you to be out of the show because of the money.
31:43Sorry.
31:44Like, I just still don't...
31:45Like, what really happened?
31:47This morning, I thought I was definitely in the hot seat.
31:50So now, I think the best way to, like, get the heat off my relationship with Mikaela
31:54is to focus on Demi and Jesse's drama.
31:57Give me the details.
31:58Tell me all the nitty-gritty.
32:00I want to know.
32:01It was a call with our lawyer and managers,
32:02and literally, like, I got on and I heard Brett,
32:04and I was like, wait, wait, wait.
32:05I don't want you speaking for me.
32:07We had had, like, a mutual understanding
32:08that we were going to come in, like,
32:10fighting for everything as a united front,
32:12and then we felt like she dogged us
32:14and, like, went around us and was like,
32:15I'm going to get whatever I want,
32:16so we were like, okay, well, fuck it,
32:18then we're going to do the same thing.
32:19You deserve to fight for more,
32:21but that doesn't mean you deserve to get paid more.
32:23I've also been told that you think
32:24you deserve the biggest brand deals,
32:26and I'm curious to why you think you deserve that.
32:28I never said that one time.
32:30I heard that, too.
32:31I heard that, too.
32:32I actually heard that, too.
32:34It's not a shock that I was a fan favorite.
32:37Like, I feel like I'm an asset.
32:39I should fight for more.
32:40Demi wasn't even originally going to be casted for the show.
32:44Do you really think that you're the star?
32:48You're the star?
32:49Nah, I don't agree with that.
32:52In what world are you putting yourself on this pedestal?
32:55What makes you that person?
32:57Yes, mom talk is a business,
32:59but it is a lot more than that.
33:01It's a sisterhood. It's a support system.
33:03However, I think Demi has let the money side and greed
33:06go to her head, where that comes first
33:09and then everyone can fend for themselves,
33:11and that, to me, is not a genuine friendship at all.
33:14And no offense, but you wouldn't have ever had
33:18this opportunity without me.
33:20No, I understand that.
33:21And so when I'm hearing these things,
33:23she deserves the most, I'm like,
33:24I'm the one that was almost in a mental hospital
33:26because I opened up.
33:27I am the most vulnerable.
33:28But at the same time, like...
33:30You want me to finish talking?
33:32You want me to finish talking?
33:34But you're coming at her,
33:35so I'm going to, like, defend her.
33:37You can defend her when I'm done talking.
33:41Okay, so I don't think it's fair.
33:43When I'm on the floor freaking dying,
33:45opening up to the world,
33:47and I think some people aren't as open
33:50and aren't as vulnerable
33:51and sharing their actual shit that's going on
33:53behind closed doors deserve to be paid more
33:55because they're not being vulnerable.
33:56They're only being surface-based
33:57at a dinner table creating drama.
33:59I'm the one that's actually struggling
34:01because I'm open to the fucking world.
34:02If anyone has a right to be paid the most,
34:04it's me, and I've never even asked for that, ever.
34:06Go ahead.
34:15Yeah, there's nothing you can say.
34:16Yeah, thank you.
34:20And I wouldn't be willing to kick someone off, either.
34:22Where I went wrong was being willing to knock her off,
34:25but that came from a place of us being in a bad place.
34:30But I think you were willing to knock her off
34:32and probably anyone else at best.
34:33No, that's not true.
34:35So if I felt the exact same,
34:36you would have been willing to kick her off but not me?
34:39No, absolutely not.
34:41Demi calling me expendable and basically replaceable
34:44really hurt my feelings,
34:45and hearing that Demi also values Taylor over me on the show
34:49hurts my feelings as well
34:50because, yes, Taylor got us here,
34:52but we all have something to offer in mom talk,
34:54and it's hard not to feel resentful.
34:56I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day,
34:58it's just, I think we're all a team,
35:00and we've all brought so much to the table.
35:02I'm all for sharing the spotlight.
35:04I don't care to have it.
35:07I love Demi, and I've always seen her as a great friend.
35:10However, there is this side to her that worries me.
35:14Just seeing that Demi did that to Jessie,
35:16who's supposed to be her closest friend,
35:18definitely makes me feel like I can't fully trust her.
35:21We'll talk about it more later when we're not screaming.
35:23Okay, as the leader of mom talk,
35:25I'd like to raise a toast to new beginnings,
35:28open communication,
35:30and fertility.
35:31Cheers!
35:32And fertility.
35:33Fertility for all.
35:34Fertility!
35:35And no more babies for you.
35:36Only for you on that one.
35:40That's steep.
35:41That is.
35:42That was so yummy.
35:43This is a stiff mocktail.
35:45What about your stuff?
35:46Like, are you guys still planning on doing the treatments
35:49or, like, figuring it out?
35:50Yeah, we've kind of just started back at, like, square one
35:53because we don't have answers.
35:55Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant
35:57for about four years now.
35:59I definitely pushed for Brett to go in
36:01and get his sperm checked.
36:02The first time we went to the men's clinic,
36:04his sperm was basically dead.
36:05In May, you were 52 million,
36:07and then October, you're 25 million.
36:09I do suspect it's gonna keep going down.
36:11I also struggle with endometriosis,
36:13and we didn't want to jump to surgery.
36:15And so there's been a lot of holistic things we've done.
36:18We've both done a lot of energy healing.
36:20Go ahead and charge that heart up through our genitals.
36:23Fill up your lungs and let out an audible exhale.
36:27Oh.
36:30It is so, like, taxing...
36:34..and, like, emotionally draining.
36:36Like, it's...
36:38Because you can't figure out, like, what's going on.
36:42Um...
36:44It's more like...
36:46..how bad Maude wants his sibling.
36:49And, um...
36:51..how bad I want that with someone that I'm, like, in love with.
36:55And, um, the first go-around was hell.
36:59So there's a lot of me that feels like I needed to heal
37:03and move forward.
37:05And, um...
37:07..and, um...
37:09..I needed to heal and move forward.
37:14I do feel like Demi's tears are genuine.
37:16I feel like her journey with having a baby
37:18has put a lot of strain on her in her relationships,
37:21but it is still concerning to see the side of her
37:24that she's willing to kick Jessie out of MomTalk
37:26for more money for herself.
37:28Anyway, yeah, so...
37:30Sorry about that. Stop saying sorry.
37:32Did I wreck my face?
37:34You just have two streaks. It's fine.
37:36Whoo! Let's go!
37:38Let's shake our bodies and get warm.
37:40Tonight's the last night in Scottsdale, Arizona,
37:42so it's time to hit the clubs.
37:44Shake all that ass!
37:46Jessie is drained and Taylor's tired,
37:49so Jessie and Taylor are going to go back to the house
37:52while the rest of us hit the dance floor.
38:01I just want to put all of this drama behind me,
38:03go to this club and have the time of my life.
38:06I love doing stuff like this with the girls.
38:08It reminds me and hopefully them
38:10why we became friends in the first place.
38:12I'm ready to shake my little tail feather.
38:21Mormons aren't just sitting around
38:23reading their Book of Mormons at night.
38:25We don't drink, but we love to dance.
38:28Let loose, no drama.
38:30The music will be too loud to even talk,
38:32so that's perfect. There won't be any fighting.
38:34This is fun.
38:35After a party, we're having a twerk-off.
38:37I feel like we need to get twerking.
38:39I apologize.
38:41I will easily be Whitney in a twerking contact.
38:44Okay, let's see your twerks.
38:50I'm not seeing it.
39:05Oh, yeah!
39:11Let us all remember who's in first place.
39:14It's you, Mikayla.
39:19I think ego and jealousy gets in the way
39:21of so many good things, especially friendships.
39:23With women all online making content together,
39:26it's like what happened last year.
39:28Who's the new leader? It has to be Whitney or Taylor.
39:30Do you feel like there's an element of that
39:33in your group still? Who do you think it would be?
39:36Competitive? All of us?
39:38Yeah. What about Demi?
39:40You were talking about that at dinner tonight.
39:42You're good at reading energy.
39:45Yeah, I could say yes.
39:48I would say there's probably some inside.
39:50Competitiveness or jealousy?
39:54Both.
39:55Okay.
39:56Oh, my God!
40:00What's her name?
40:02Tom! Tom! Tom! Tom!
40:05Tom! Tom! Tom! Tom!
40:12We do look alike when we're side by side.
40:14Do you guys want to guess who won the twerking contest in the bus?
40:17I guess it's you.
40:19So does anyone want a hot tub?
40:22Make it! Make it!
40:25Demi, you better be naked in there.
40:28For what?
40:30Oh, Brett's talking to you.
40:38Cameras are still on and we're just filming right now.
40:41I was just taking off my makeup and about to rinse.
40:43But I'll call you right back.
40:48Okay, good.
40:49Well, Demi was going skinny dipping, that was the point.
40:51She had already decided she was doing it.
40:53And then I guess she had sent a text to Brett saying,
40:57hey, like, just letting you know,
40:59going to go skinny dipping, whatever.
41:01But then she got a phone call.
41:03And so then she decides not to skinny dip.
41:06Demi kind of gives people crap
41:09for being controlled by their spouses and partners.
41:12And hers does that.
41:16I'm actually surprised you don't want to skinny dip.
41:19Since when do you want to keep your clothes on?
41:22Yeah, I'm kidding.
41:24How uncomfortable and, like, inappropriate
41:28for me to be stripping down naked on national television
41:32knowing that, like, my stepkids are going to be seeing this at home.
41:35Do you want to skinny dip for Taylor? Just say it.
41:37I mean, you always are, so that's why I'm like,
41:39I don't know why you don't want to go skinny dipping.
41:41If I don't come back in five minutes
41:43and see you and you naked in a towel, I'm going to be mad.
41:46I just don't want to do it. I have BV.
41:48What's BV?
41:50Bacterial vaginosis.
41:52You have that? She has it bad.
41:54What? She has it bad.
41:56Smell it? You can smell it.
41:58I don't have BV. I was lying.
42:00I didn't want to go skinny dipping. Now leave me alone.
42:02What? Let's go.
42:04Oh, yeah, I've skinny dipped plenty in my day.
42:07Not my first rodeo.
42:09Let's go. Let's do it.
42:11We're ready.
42:13Ah!
42:15I'm on a skinny dip.
42:17She looks good.
42:19Oh, the pool is warm.
42:21It's cool. It's warm.
42:23Ready?
42:251, 2, 3!
42:27Whoo!
42:29Whoo!
42:31Oh, my God!
42:33Go down the slide!
42:35Go down the slide!
42:37I do feel like with all the drama going on in this trip,
42:39it's time for a little Warming Girls Gone Wild.
42:41Whoo!
42:43When I first started Mom Talk,
42:45it was supposed to be about friendship and fun.
42:47I do feel like this trip
42:49has brought a lot to the surface
42:51where I have to question what are Demi's intentions.
42:53We all need to be aware
42:55of her motives
42:57and why she's really here.
42:59They all have boob jobs.
43:01Boobs look good!
43:03Whoo!
43:05The Great Mormon Bake Off.
43:07I made a pumpkin pie.
43:09This is Joseph Smith.
43:11Homemade sourdough.
43:13The penises did not bother me.
43:15Whoa!
43:17How are you and Taylor doing?
43:19I have to, like, just take care of myself now.
43:21Demi is going out of her way
43:23to get a cease and desist
43:25to try to keep Jen and other people from talking.
43:27Jen needs Mom Talk more than ever,
43:29but I just don't really know
43:31who to trust with this information.
43:33The Sinner Sunday confessional
43:35about Brett cheating on me is so far-fetched,
43:37and I know the truth always comes to light,
43:39and if something were to happen,
43:41I would eventually find out and deal with it then.
43:43I don't understand why something that's not true
43:45would bother you.