The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 3
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00:00What to do? He just admitted a sex trade.
00:02Did Miranda know that?
00:04I'm just like, I really do love him.
00:05He's also kind of a fucking dickhead.
00:07Wait, sit right here.
00:08Why? What the fuck are you going to do?
00:09You're going to fucking beat me up?
00:10Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
00:12You're not going to throw down right now, Taylor.
00:14I'm actually kind of shocked.
00:15This is like a marathon.
00:16Can I ask, does he look for this?
00:17Because I thought he did.
00:18Yeah, he kind of does, I think.
00:22Okay.
00:24Some of the girls were supposed to oil us up.
00:26What happened? They ran off.
00:27They ran off. Someone's fighting.
00:29Okay, so we go.
00:31You're in the middle.
00:34I didn't know.
00:35Yeah, what's up?
00:36What's up?
00:37Should de-escalate a little bit.
00:38I'm fine. I'm good.
00:40No, I agree.
00:42This is like, this is not, this is like awkward, dude.
00:45Well, he's lying.
00:47You're lying.
00:49Okay, dude, why are you being so-
00:51Because I fucking hate you.
00:52You're not my partner.
00:53Yeah, why?
00:53Oh, and you're my partner?
00:54No. You've had my back so much.
00:55I'm not your partner at all.
00:56So much, yeah.
00:57You've got my back all the time, Taylor.
01:00I might be regretting the guest list now.
01:01I did not foresee this happening.
01:03And if I would have known, I would have nixed like half these people.
01:07Are you happy you're getting your little moment, Chase?
01:09So fun.
01:10No, this is not fun.
01:12This is why you fucking showed up.
01:13I would consider my stay here extremely relevant.
01:17Where'd Kate go?
01:18She doesn't want to be fucking around you right now.
01:21Where's your date?
01:22Doesn't seem like he does either.
01:24Really?
01:24Go talk shit on your podcast, Chase.
01:26Don't make fun of my podcast.
01:27It's fucking lame.
01:29I honestly cannot stand Chase right now.
01:31I think that his intentions coming tonight are not pure.
01:33Me and him dated each other for a little over a month.
01:36And I definitely see very bad, toxic traits in him.
01:41He's a clout chaser.
01:42I mean, it literally matches his name.
01:44Chase, the clout chaser.
01:45I think it's very fitting for him.
01:47It sucks because it's like, dude, you're damn right.
01:50I want to know what's going on, the truth.
01:53Not just from her side even.
01:54I want to know it from your-
01:55Like, I've never gotten that.
01:57He's lying.
01:58Dakota wants to believe him as a joke.
01:59Then yeah, they can be friends.
02:01What, you listen to my conversations?
02:02I can talk to him if I want.
02:04Fuck you, Dakota.
02:05You can talk to whoever you want.
02:06Just fuck you.
02:07Yeah, because you lie.
02:08There's multiple times you've lied that now I know are the truth.
02:11Let's talk about what you've done.
02:12Yeah, let's talk about what you've done.
02:14What you've done.
02:15Oh, you want me to bring you up?
02:16You want me to bring you up?
02:17Listen, you lied too.
02:20She was calling Walter a scream.
02:22Yeah.
02:23The hell's going on?
02:24You guys should both get out.
02:26No one wants you.
02:26Why would I leave?
02:27Jordan invited me, Mason.
02:28Get out.
02:29Do you own the house?
02:30Do you own the house?
02:31Look at me.
02:32Do you own the house?
02:33Get the fuck out.
02:34We're not doing this here.
02:35No, I know.
02:36Get out.
02:36Chase.
02:37Actually, I am going to leave too.
02:39I didn't really want to come anyway, so.
02:41Chase, this wasn't going to happen.
02:42This is what I was saying.
02:43I had my fucking back with Chase.
02:46Do you have my back?
02:47With Chase?
02:48No, with anything.
02:49Have you had my back?
02:50No, I mean, not now.
02:51Look what you just did.
02:52This is fucking stupid.
02:53Holy shit, Taylor.
02:55Yeah, fuck this.
02:56Dakota.
02:57Dakota.
02:57You guys need to literally stop talking.
03:00Go make up, and let's be good.
03:01What do you think I was fucking doing right here
03:03with Dakota turning away from the window?
03:05OK, I couldn't help.
03:06Oh, well, maybe just look next time.
03:08Chase.
03:09You have a child.
03:10You need to talk to me.
03:11Yeah, OK, Dakota.
03:12Fuck you, then.
03:13It's OK.
03:14So good job.
03:15I feel like so betrayed.
03:17I just expected him to have my back,
03:20and I just feel very left alone.
03:22My boyfriend just leaves me, and then
03:25Chase is over here trying to stay at the party.
03:28It's a nightmare.
03:30I'm going home, too.
03:31I know, it's good.
03:31I hate him.
03:33OK.
03:34I do think Kate is a little bit uncomfortable,
03:37and she would like to leave.
03:39I know, I know, I know.
03:41You need to be done.
03:42Your girlfriend just left.
03:43I don't know if you want to go check on her
03:45and make sure she's OK.
03:46That's what a man would do.
03:48Go with Kate.
03:49That's the priority right now.
03:50Your girlfriend's literally crying and just left.
03:52So I would take, like, that's probably.
03:54Where's your husband?
03:55He's upstairs.
03:57Don't touch me again.
03:58All right.
04:00I just see red.
04:02Oh, no, you did not just condescendingly
04:05be like, oh, worry about yourself
04:06while I just watched you neglect your girlfriend
04:09and then touch me and walk out of here.
04:15Like, fuck you.
04:16So I immediately go running to Brett
04:18to tell him what just happened.
04:20Brett.
04:21Go fuck yourself.
04:22All right.
04:23Fun party, Jess.
04:25I want to have a word with Chase.
04:27Me?
04:28He just laid his hands on me.
04:29What the hell?
04:30Yeah.
04:31Oh, shit.
04:33Like, I just woke up a monster.
04:36Outside, he's outside.
04:37This guy's going to die tonight.
04:39Chase is going to die on the front lawn.
04:42Why is he shirtless?
04:45Yeah.
04:47What do you mean, Brett?
04:48What's happening?
04:49Honestly, I'm exhausted.
04:50Just touch my wife.
04:54Come ye saints and come ye sinners.
04:58Alleluia, alleluia.
05:02Listen up.
05:04I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
05:07I've got everything you could ever want.
05:11Try me in your sleep.
05:13I'll bring you to your knees.
05:15Baby, you're gonna believe.
05:17Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
05:21Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
05:24Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
05:26Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
05:35What do you mean, Brett?
05:36Just touch my wife.
05:38What's happening?
05:40Oh, this is crazy.
05:41Oh, my gosh.
05:42Wait, what's happening?
05:43No, she told me that my girlfriend walked out,
05:44so I said, where's Brett?
05:45Yeah.
05:46Put your fucking hands on her, dude.
05:47Don't be a dick.
05:48Put it like this.
05:49Oh, god.
05:50Oh, god.
05:51I did see Chase pass to me, and from my perspective,
05:56it did look like he just touched her
05:58and said, hey, where's Brett, just like asking.
06:01I didn't notice anything aggressive.
06:03So it was surprising to me that Demi got really upset.
06:08Are you serious?
06:09I'm being dead serious right now.
06:10She just told me you put your hands on her.
06:12I said, where's Brett?
06:13Demi, what happened?
06:15He literally just walked by me, and I was like,
06:16you might want to go get your girlfriend.
06:18And he was like, where's your husband?
06:20Did he touch you?
06:21Yeah, he did.
06:22He's a psychopath.
06:23I literally told him this would happen.
06:24I'm like, dude, don't come.
06:26Yeah.
06:27Look how psycho he is.
06:29I am happy Chase got into it more with other people
06:33besides just me.
06:34He's proving my point of how psychotic he is
06:36and manipulative, and he's a gaslighter.
06:40They're kind of seeing him for who he is.
06:43Don't touch my fucking wife, dude, ever.
06:45Don't you ever touch a woman for any fucking reason, dude.
06:48No, I walked by and said, where's Brett?
06:49I fear for Chase's life in this moment,
06:51but in the same breath, I'm like, that's my man.
06:54You crossed a major line.
06:55Dude, I didn't mean to cross a line.
06:57I thought that was normal.
06:58Like, hey, where's Brett?
06:59Taylor.
07:00I just want to watch.
07:01Taylor, Taylor.
07:02Taylor, do not get involved in anything physical.
07:05I'm watching them.
07:06I know, I know.
07:06Let's just keep our distance.
07:08Oh, I'm not going up there.
07:10Oh, shit.
07:11Here we go.
07:11This is going to be a problem.
07:14I can see how mad she is.
07:16She's in this zone.
07:17I want to help, because I have a feeling that it could
07:19get really ugly if I don't.
07:21I wasn't trying to disrespect Demi.
07:23Well, go apologize to her right now.
07:24I will, I will right now.
07:25Where is she?
07:26Right here.
07:27Demi.
07:28I walked past you and said, hey, where's Brett?
07:30I didn't mean to.
07:31Take ownership!
07:32You're bullshitting.
07:33Take ownership right now.
07:34No, you're bullshitting.
07:35No, take ownership.
07:36I didn't mean to disrespect you.
07:37I thought, where's Brett?
07:38You did, you did.
07:39I'm sorry for disrespecting you.
07:40I didn't mean to do that.
07:41And I'm sorry.
07:42Now get the fuck out of here.
07:42All right.
07:43I'm sorry.
07:44Didn't mean to do that.
07:45Goodbye.
07:46See you, Chase.
07:46All right.
07:47Yeah, he doesn't even care to think about Kate.
07:49Cool.
07:49You had your moment.
07:50Good job, Chase.
07:51You're going to have TikToks made about him.
07:53He's so excited.
07:54I originally invited Chase because I
07:56wanted to get to the bottom of Miranda and Taylor
07:58and what really happened with the swinging scandal.
08:00But we're leaving it on a dot, dot, dot.
08:02And I really hope we figure out the truth soon.
08:05I'm just like where I'm at just because I'm like,
08:07I want to have a good time.
08:12Ooh.
08:13What's going on?
08:14I thought we were going to have a good night.
08:16I can't get over these stupid people.
08:18Take them off.
08:19Fuck.
08:20Fuck.
08:21Ow.
08:22What's going on?
08:23I mean, are you just like embarrassed?
08:24No, I'm just triggered, dude.
08:26I know.
08:26Dude, I am.
08:27And then I'm like triggered for you.
08:28No, don't be triggered for me.
08:30I'm sorry.
08:30I'm really sorry.
08:31I hate this.
08:33I hate this.
08:34I'm like we have a good co-parent relationship right now,
08:36so this is hard because I just don't want that to like,
08:39I feel like this is going to get in the way of that, you know?
08:42I'm sorry.
08:42I just know you've dealt with him for a long time
08:45and you've gotten a taste, so.
08:48This is so hard because I'm just like,
08:50dude, you have so many good qualities about you.
08:53Why do you do this?
08:54Like, I'm just so shocked about everything.
08:56He left.
08:58Yeah.
08:58Good.
08:59The police are here.
09:00No, are they actually?
09:01No, you guys, the police are actually here.
09:03The police are actually here.
09:05Jessie.
09:06I think Jessie's upstairs.
09:07Jessie.
09:08The cops are here.
09:09Cops are here?
09:10Jessie, the police are here.
09:11No.
09:12You're joking.
09:14I'm going to cry.
09:15Are you kidding me?
09:16We haven't even been here two months.
09:18We are new to this neighborhood.
09:19It's our first gathering.
09:21Hi, I'm so sorry.
09:22Did you guys get a complaint?
09:24Yeah, we got reports of people arguing.
09:26Yes.
09:27Jordan and I are wanting to die right now
09:29and just like hide under a rock because we're definitely
09:32getting kicked out of this neighborhood.
09:33Yeah, there were a few people here who were arguing.
09:36They ran out here and it continued out here
09:38because I told them to get out.
09:39So we've settled down, but not at all.
09:41No, it was just a lot of screaming.
09:43But we have a lot of people here who like shut it down
09:45and then they left.
09:47No, you're fine.
09:47You're fine.
09:48We need to hide.
09:48You didn't do anything.
09:49You're fine.
09:50I don't know why.
09:51Sorry, I just got scared.
09:52I mean, I did too.
09:53Sorry, my brain, I'm like, I'm like in thinking mode.
09:55I'm like, wait, hurry, hide.
09:57Their spouses or partners here still?
09:59No.
10:00They left with them?
10:01No, they went alone.
10:02It was like exes.
10:04It's like a tangled web.
10:06Have you watched Secret Life?
10:07No.
10:09OK, I'm like, that would be the best way to describe it.
10:11Like there's going to be any retaliation?
10:13No, these two were the problem and they left.
10:14So we're good now.
10:15OK, thank you guys.
10:16I'm so sorry.
10:18Now let's go have a good time.
10:19Now let's party.
10:20Woo!
10:21Give me a kiss.
10:23I'm just trying to listen.
10:24I don't really know what's going on.
10:26I don't know why.
10:27I think what Taylor's just about is that he like manipulated
10:30Dakota to like hear him out.
10:32First tapping her back, but I don't know.
10:34And so Dakota can't have Taylor's back.
10:36I don't know.
10:38OK, what do we do?
10:39We got to go dance.
10:40I don't know because the party's so awkward now.
10:42OK, then we go down and dance.
10:43Should we just go down there?
10:44Let's just go down there.
10:45OK, can everyone come to the living room?
10:47We're just going to reset the intention of the night.
10:49I'm feeling very conflicted about Chippendales
10:51at this point because is this going to lighten the mood
10:54or is everyone in such a bad mood that this is just
10:56going to be a total flop?
10:57I really hope that Jordan and Brett can pull it together
11:00and just really shift the vibe of this party.
11:03All right, you guys.
11:04We have a little surprise for everyone.
11:06Now that the drama is done, we're
11:08going to have a little surprise for everyone.
11:10We're going to have a little surprise
11:12for everyone.
11:13Now that the drama is done, we're
11:15going to do a little performance.
11:16So everyone get ready.
11:17Who's excited?
11:18Yeah!
11:19Woo!
11:20Woo!
11:22Guest of honor is Jenny Boo.
11:25Woo!
11:26Guest of honor.
11:27Woo!
11:28Guest of honor.
11:29Woo!
11:30Right here, baby.
11:31Get ready to live.
11:33All right.
11:34Oh, baby.
11:36I trust you.
11:38OK, any more time and it's awkward, so.
11:41We got this.
11:42All right.
11:45This is a really good moment for Zach to redeem himself.
11:48Bring on the Chippendales dancers.
11:49Come on, Zach.
11:50Don't let me down.
11:52Woo!
11:53Oh, no!
11:54Woo!
11:55Woo!
11:56Woo!
11:57Woo!
11:58Woo!
11:59Woo!
12:00Woo!
12:01Woo!
12:02Woo!
12:03Woo!
12:04Woo!
12:05Woo!
12:06Woo!
12:07Woo!
12:08Woo!
12:09Woo!
12:10Woo!
12:11Woo!
12:12Woo!
12:13Woo!
12:14Oh!
12:15Oh!
12:16Oh!
12:17Oh!
12:18Oh!
12:19Oh!
12:23Oh!
12:26Oh!
12:27Oh!
12:28Oh!
12:29Oh!
12:30Oh!
12:31Oh!
12:32Oh!
12:33Oh!
12:34Oh!
12:35Oh!
12:36Oh!
12:37This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
12:38I literally am thinking it's a joke.
12:39I don't know whether to have a good time right now because I know that this is
12:49making Zach uncomfortable and because of how both the me and Jesse treated my
12:55relationship prior to this it makes me question their intentions.
13:01I'm looking at Zach's face and he does not look thrilled at all.
13:20Honestly the show must go on.
13:31That was fun.
13:33Was that fun?
13:35Did you not see it was a performance?
13:37No I loved it.
13:39You killed it.
13:41You killed it.
13:43You're welcome.
13:45You guys all were good sports.
13:47Good sports and that was fun.
13:49You look good.
13:51I'm sorry.
13:53Oh I'm fine.
13:55What even happened?
13:57What triggered that?
13:59Well he just went straight to Dakota.
14:01Yeah why were you mad at him?
14:03Because he was like not having my back.
14:05Dakota's like interrogating her with Chase.
14:07He's believing Chase.
14:09He just wanted to feel validated and Chase was validating him in that moment.
14:13So then he hopped on the train.
14:15Yeah so I was like fuck you and fuck you too.
14:17At this point Dakota has Chase's back.
14:19So I don't currently know what's going on with our relationship and where it goes from here.
14:23It's really weird to look someone in the eyes and then be able to just like lie to it.
14:28Because he's a narcissist and so is Dakota.
14:30I would think he should have done is defend you in that situation.
14:32Exactly.
14:34He should have interrogated you with Chase.
14:36Well who cares he's the worst.
14:38But he's also the father of my child.
14:40Sure.
14:42And he should only be that.
14:44That was cute.
14:46I want you guys to do it again.
14:48Round two.
14:50Put it on me this time.
14:52I'll be the next one.
14:54Well you better be.
14:56I mean with the rail after Jippendales.
14:58You're not going through that again.
15:16Let's go.
15:18What the heck?
15:21You won't go up there.
15:23He needs some candy.
15:25Get this kid some candy.
15:27They're going to get you.
15:29Say happy Halloween.
15:31I have been dealing with so much shit lately.
15:33There's a lot of drama going on and mom talk at this moment.
15:35So I'm looking forward to meeting up with my sisters for Halloween to just take a break.
15:39I think they're done.
15:43Okay Haven you ready?
15:45Don't pick your nose.
15:48With my family
15:50it's important every holiday for us
15:52to get the kids together
15:54so that they can spend time
15:56doing fun traditions.
15:58Perfect.
16:00Easy see it only took like 30 minutes.
16:02My sister's costumes are definitely
16:04my favorite part of Halloween this year.
16:06Wait turn back.
16:10One of them showed up as me
16:12and the other showed up as Whitney.
16:14She's wearing the classic headband
16:16and on the back she has a sign that says
16:18I'm never wrong.
16:20Oh my gosh.
16:22It was so good.
16:24This is where I get all my pettiness from.
16:26Us?
16:28Yes.
16:30Well for mom.
16:32We just did girls night
16:34or like a happy hour
16:36at Miranda's house
16:38that she invited everyone to.
16:40Wait I was not expecting that name.
16:42Is that awkward in the same room as her?
16:45The only reason I went was to tell her how I felt
16:49but I was a little mean.
16:53I think I said a little too much and I felt bad.
16:55I just feel like convenient timing
16:57everything feels kind of fake to me about it.
16:59I was edging on the side of anger
17:01when I went into the conversation.
17:03I think I came off a little too harsh.
17:05I just feel like
17:07in our house I feel like we grew up in a lot of anger
17:09and so when we express our feelings
17:11it's holding it back.
17:13It's holding in, holding in, holding in
17:15until all of a sudden it explodes and you're mad.
17:17I think that's what's happening right now.
17:19But I was just surprised to see Miranda defend Taylor
17:21during the Halloween party.
17:23Hey we're not doing this here.
17:25Get out.
17:27Chase, this wasn't going to happen here.
17:29I think I've just let too many things happen
17:31for too many years
17:33that I'm like actually no I'm kind of done taking people's shit.
17:35I'm at a point in my life where I'm like
17:37I want to protect my peace
17:39and I want to be able to heal myself
17:41from chronic health issues.
17:43I think it's related to like deeper rooted trauma.
17:45This is the current state of my skin.
17:47It's just so rough because I've literally
17:49been doing, I've been cutting out
17:51sugar, gluen.
17:53I've been cutting back on
17:55all my dairy.
17:57It just felt like it's getting worse.
17:59It's basically like I've been going through an autoimmune disease
18:01without an autoimmune disease
18:03but recently I've been working on
18:05finding my voice and learning how to
18:07express my feelings and now
18:09my skin's been doing a lot better.
18:11It's hard because when my face is good
18:13my body's bad and then it'll swap
18:15where my face is horrible and my
18:17body's great so I just need to get my
18:19whole body in tune with each other.
18:21But Chase always knows
18:23too like I can't really express my emotions
18:25unless it's like anger
18:27because I don't know how to validate people's feelings
18:29because we didn't get that growing up.
18:31I know, I validate their feelings, I'm just like
18:33in attack mode and I feel like it's just
18:35from not expressing
18:37my emotions for however many
18:39years, 24 years. Especially you.
18:41Like especially you.
18:43I feel like a lot of it
18:45is super related
18:47to like trauma and things that
18:49happen and just all of that.
19:01I was sexually abused
19:03for about
19:05like 4 or 5 years.
19:07I was young and so I wasn't
19:09I didn't exactly know what was going on
19:11and then when I was 15 I was like
19:13it can't go on any longer so
19:15Halloween of 2015
19:17I ended up going
19:19to my mom and I felt like
19:21she didn't believe me.
19:25I feel like that's when I stopped
19:27telling people.
19:29After that point it was like
19:31I was hesitant to say anything
19:33to anybody because I was like well no one's
19:35going to believe me.
19:37I think it just silenced
19:39me in a way.
19:41I think that was like
19:43the turning point where my
19:45body shifted and was like every time I'm
19:47feeling something or feeling like
19:49anything hard I can't
19:51even now.
19:53It's like I can't express it.
19:55It's like I can't
19:57even now. It's like I can't express it.
19:59It's a tricky
20:01situation to navigate because
20:03it's like I don't know where to go from here but I think
20:05the most important thing is finding the people
20:07that you can trust and the people that you feel
20:09comfortable around.
20:11I just feel like on Halloween
20:13that was like the last time
20:15that I was open.
20:23That's just when I lost my voice.
20:27Such a
20:29deep wound of just hurt
20:31that I have a lot of fear of having to relive
20:33it and feel that all again.
20:35Okay I need a break but
20:37maybe I need to try going
20:39to therapy and
20:41finally allow myself to heal.
20:43I would say let's hug but we don't do that.
20:45It's nice.
20:47Get some time in the morning
20:49for us. The Halloween party
20:51was intense. No I
20:53know. The Chippendales situation
20:55I think that this is another jab
20:57from Jesse and Demi at
20:59Jen and I's expense. I don't know in what
21:01world they think that they have some right to like
21:03give us exposure therapy.
21:05Before something like this happened I was
21:07like I don't know what to do.
21:09I don't know what to do.
21:11I don't know what to do.
21:13Like I
21:15like a man went and sat down with them
21:17told them my issues I had with them.
21:19I talked to them about the issues they had with me.
21:21I said some super hurtful things
21:23to Jen. I look like the biggest hypocrite in the world.
21:25I don't feel like that's who I am
21:27and that's like not who I want to be.
21:29Four days later at their Halloween party
21:31with a hundred friends we don't know
21:33we're made into the comedy act.
21:35So we're like
21:37I don't know what to do.
21:39I don't know what to do.
21:41We're made into the comedy act
21:43so that they can laugh. It's a different story
21:45if Brett reaches out
21:47and says like Zach are you
21:49cool with this? Or even the girls.
21:51I mean did they ask you if they
21:53could? No.
21:55So I mean it shows
21:57a lot of who they are as people.
21:59I did hear Jesse and Demi kind of bring
22:01it up jokingly when I was at
22:03Jesse's salon
22:05but I didn't think they were serious
22:07to be honest.
22:09I knew partially
22:11of what they were going to do.
22:13Brett is going to come in like normal
22:15costume. Rip it off his like a chicken nose.
22:17I love that!
22:19But I didn't realize how bad this was
22:21upset Zach. I
22:23just wanted to be the fun
22:25friend who just said yeah and that it would be
22:27so awesome but I didn't really question
22:29their intentions behind it
22:31and I also didn't ask myself how I felt
22:33about it. They're shitty friends.
22:35It's like this is our marriage
22:37this isn't a game and like real friends
22:39wouldn't do that. Genuinely.
22:41I feel like
22:43I'm tossed in the
22:45middle having to pick between
22:47my marriage and
22:49all the girls and mom talk. It definitely
22:51feels like I have no one to turn to
22:53right now
22:55and that's really hard. It's just honestly
22:57a toxic environment and
22:59not the kind of place where I want to be
23:01like honestly raising our kids.
23:03I just wish that after the party
23:05you didn't
23:07put the frustration you were feeling
23:09towards Demi and Jesse on me.
23:11After the Halloween party
23:13Zach got upset about it and
23:15he was jumping to conclusions
23:17and putting his frustration on me without getting
23:19the whole picture or the whole story.
23:21It was definitely triggering for me.
23:23I'm not frustrated at you Jen.
23:25I just were continually
23:27going to these parties and spending time with
23:29these people who clearly don't have good
23:31intentions for you or for
23:33your family. I just also want you to
23:35acknowledge the frustration you put on me.
23:37Yeah, I am frustrated
23:39because I feel like I'm having to stick
23:41up and defend our family
23:43and it's making me look like the bad guy
23:45when these are your friends.
23:47If my friends were doing these kind of things to us
23:49I would confront them
23:51or I would drop them.
23:53So much was happening. I didn't feel like
23:55there was room for me to confront them.
23:57It felt like Chippendales all over
23:59again. Just like you being...
24:01I'm not to the...
24:03Not to the extent...
24:05Hold on.
24:07You just listen to me real quick.
24:09You just listen to me.
24:11Not to the extent
24:13obviously you're frustrated about the whole thing
24:15and you're frustrated about...
24:17Not at you, at Jesse and to me
24:19because they're not good friends.
24:21I know, but I wish you wouldn't put that frustration on me
24:23and you would ask me how I'm feeling than
24:25how you're feeling.
24:27But you bring me to these
24:29parties with your friends and then I get put
24:31in these situations. I think there is
24:33a lot of things that I do need
24:35to take accountability for.
24:37I just don't think everyone sees
24:39the full context and doesn't see the other side
24:41of things. You also have to own up
24:43to how you treat me after these situations
24:45that I'm not putting myself into.
24:47I just honestly felt
24:49pretty alone.
24:51Okay.
24:53I can't do this.
24:55I'm sorry.
24:57Are you going to hear me out?
24:59Are you going to listen to me or are you just going to walk away?
25:01No, I would like to take a break for a second.
25:03Will you please cut the camera?
25:05I don't want to do this.
25:07I don't want to take a break. I want to openly have this conversation.
25:09I'm not down to have this conversation
25:11right now.
25:13I'm not getting this twisted on me again.
25:17You're making it about you and how you feel.
25:19You haven't considered how I felt about this situation.
25:21We can film this later. I'm not going to do this.
25:23I'm not going to have this flipped back on me
25:25again because you have
25:27crazy ass friends.
25:29I've been doing so much work
25:31to handle things differently, to go about
25:33things differently, and
25:35Jen is such a sweet,
25:37pure-hearted person
25:39that I think, yeah,
25:41sometimes I feel like I kind of get
25:43a little bit...
25:45I don't know.
25:47I don't want
25:49to say anything bad about Jen.
25:51I need you
25:53to own up to this. I'm not being
25:55quiet about it. And if you don't want to be on camera,
25:57then you can go. If you don't want to be a part of this,
25:59you don't want to be a part of this marriage, you can go.
26:01And I'm only moving forward in this marriage if you take accountability.
26:24Baby number three!
26:26So I
26:28get out of bed, and
26:30I'm headed to the bathroom,
26:32and then all of a sudden this gush of water
26:34comes out. TMI.
26:36Sorry. And
26:38I'm in labor!
26:40You ready? I'm so excited.
26:42It's time, though.
26:44I heard there was drama at
26:46Jesse's Halloween party, but lucky me,
26:48I can't afford being involved in any big drama
26:50because I'm about to give birth, and I'm so excited
26:53to start this new chapter in our lives.
26:55Okay, so this is your room.
26:57This is where we're going to have the birthday party.
26:59This is so exciting.
27:01Yeah.
27:03So I really appreciate you carrying our child,
27:05and all the love that you've given
27:07me and our children, and the love you're
27:09going to give this baby.
27:11Being a mom is one of the greatest
27:13callings a woman can
27:15have. Big breaths. Breathe in your
27:17nose, out your mouth.
27:19You are so strong, Whitney.
27:21That's genuinely the closest
27:23I feel to heaven. Big,
27:25slow breaths.
27:27You got it.
27:29It's the greatest miracle, the
27:31greatest blessing anyone
27:33could ever experience. And
27:35there's a certain significance with
27:37having this baby with Connor,
27:39because we did go through
27:41so much, and we worked so hard
27:43to get this relationship that we have today.
27:45I'll forever be so grateful that I gave
27:47Connor a second chance.
27:49This baby wouldn't be here if we were
27:51able to overcome what we went through.
27:53It's okay. I have you. I have you.
27:55I have you. There's no other person
27:57I'd love to be in this room
27:59and experience this with than my husband, Connor.
28:03Oh my God, Whitney.
28:05What do we got?
28:07It's a boy.
28:09Oh my gosh.
28:11Good job.
28:13You did it.
28:15I know how easy it is to get
28:17caught up in the world and
28:19worldly things.
28:21But
28:23every time
28:25I'm holding a newborn or a baby
28:27or one of my children, I'm
28:29reminded this is what matters.
28:31This is what matters in this life.
28:37I love you.
28:39I've never felt like this.
28:41So easy,
28:43so effortless.
28:45I've never felt
28:47like this.
28:57Some of the girls and I are getting together
28:59with our kids today. We are taking them to
29:01a farm that has a lot of pumpkins
29:03and rides. You guys look so cute.
29:07My friend's not here. She's kind of been off the grid.
29:09I'm okay with it.
29:11There she is.
29:13Hi, baby. You look cute.
29:15I'm excited to see the kids play together
29:17and just have a fun, light-hearted day.
29:19Hello.
29:21How are you?
29:23Do you want to go find your ride?
29:25Yeah, let's do it.
29:31Arlo, say cheese.
29:33I'm shaking.
29:35This is hot.
29:37Put your hands in the air.
29:41I don't like it either.
29:43My pussy's tingling.
29:49That's fun.
29:51Let's go play in the corn.
29:53Jagger, come on. We're going to eat our food first.
29:55Okay, Jagger, don't put it in your mouth.
29:57Arlo, don't throw it.
29:59Do you have hand sanitizer?
30:01I was like,
30:03I was going to ask someone to clean the table first.
30:07I don't like the germs, you guys.
30:09Have you talked to Whitney at all?
30:11Jen and I went yesterday
30:13and got her a gift.
30:15I want to know how you and Jen got so close.
30:17Just hanging out.
30:19I'm going to kind of have to win these girls over
30:21if I want to come back to mom talk.
30:23And I think Jen and I have a lot of similarities.
30:25I can relate to her
30:27because I know what it's like
30:29to have your marriage so publicly scrutinized.
30:31No one understands
30:33unless they've been there.
30:35It feels like I'm having to explain myself
30:37when I should just be receiving support.
30:39And they see this
30:41when there's like this all underneath.
30:43That people don't see.
30:45I support your marriage
30:47and if you guys are working through it,
30:49I'm rooting for you guys.
30:51The girls aren't the biggest fans of Jen right now,
30:53but I'm just trying not to rock the boat
30:55because I'm not even in mom talk yet.
30:57I think she just feels alone
30:59with the whole Zach thing.
31:01Because she doesn't want to upset him.
31:03She also feels like if she opens up to you guys,
31:05she's like,
31:07I already kind of know their answer.
31:09To be fair, when she's open up to us,
31:11it's either a lie or Zach doesn't know she's saying it
31:13and that's what gets her in trouble.
31:15She's done things that have bitten her own self in the ass.
31:17So are you guys all not cool with Jen?
31:19I feel like I'm just not her biggest fan
31:21for what she's done to you, especially.
31:23What'd she do to you?
31:25Um...
31:27She's just kind of vindictive.
31:31I was one of the girls that went on the Italy trip
31:33at Vanderpump Villa this summer
31:35and I know for a fact that nothing happened
31:37between me and the guys.
31:39Are you getting credit?
31:41I think so.
31:43Jen was definitely judging
31:45Demi for being flirty
31:47with these guys.
31:49If that's okay in your marriage, I'm not judging you for it.
31:51But then Jen turned around
31:53and flipped it as a way to use it against her
31:55almost as blackmail.
31:57We had a sit-down talk with her and Zach
31:59and we were talking about
32:01just the disconnect between what she was saying
32:03versus what Zach was saying.
32:05But instead of taking the opportunity to focus on that,
32:07she took the opportunity to try to throw me under the bus.
32:11And was like, well, what about villas?
32:13And I'm like, okay, hold on.
32:15We're talking about you and Zach.
32:17None of this concerns you in any way.
32:19I think that when Jen is in situations
32:21where she feels that she's ganged up on
32:23and isolated, she likes to deflect
32:25and kind of throw out whatever dagger
32:27she can to take the heat off of herself.
32:29Her motives are not good.
32:31So I'm just like, until I see different,
32:33this is where we are.
32:35There's just so much I feel like I have to catch up on.
32:37Jagger's chomping at the bit
32:39to do something.
32:41Should we go take them on a ride?
32:43Don't put them in someone's shoes, Jagger. Stop.
32:45Jagger, do you want to go see the animals
32:47with your friends?
32:49I'll take you guys.
32:51Toko wants to go with you guys, too.
32:53Okay, let's do the corn maze.
32:55Let's hope we come out friends.
32:57Truths, no matter how this goes down.
32:59If you have to pee, just go in there.
33:01Yeah, just squat right here.
33:03Good old times.
33:07Miranda was like another level
33:09of friendship. She was my best friend.
33:11We would talk two hours a day on the phone.
33:13I'd see her probably three times a week
33:15and it ended overnight.
33:17If you're going to come into our circle again
33:19and come into mom talk, I would hope at this point
33:21you're willing to be open and honest because
33:23if you're not, I will clear the air.
33:25I won't be called
33:27a liar because everything I've said
33:29is true. I'm ready to
33:31move on.
33:33How have you been feeling about being around me?
33:35I'm almost maybe in shock.
33:39We should have a conversation because your stories
33:41still are a little different and so I'm just
33:43confused. I feel like a lot of animosity still
33:45about the whole situation. The only time I like touched
33:47anyone or did anything with anyone
33:49was kissing.
33:51I'm hoping Taylor is ready to
33:53really have
33:55what I hope is the final conversation.
33:57I just want to clear it up once and for all.
33:59There wasn't anything beyond that.
34:07What I wanted to get across
34:09was that I was like when Taylor said everyone was hooking
34:11up with everyone, I'm like that wasn't the case.
34:13I didn't hook up with anyone. I think when people think
34:15like swinging parties was not really
34:17like, I guess for me, like what I
34:19would picture. Maybe we have a different definition
34:21of involvement then.
34:23I didn't mean sex, I just meant we were all
34:25doing things with each other. I don't want to
34:27get it twisted. Height of what I
34:29was involved in was kissing people.
34:31It wasn't just kissing.
34:35I don't know what to say about it. Yeah, it's true but like also
34:37not. It's just downplaying what actually happened.
34:39I feel like it's like we did everything
34:41Love Island does. Have you seen Love Island
34:43where they play the games? But I was just kind of like
34:45plus a little more.
34:47No one had sex as far as I know.
34:51Yes, you didn't have sex with the husband
34:53but like you didn't just kiss
34:55people though you participated in all
34:57these things. I mean I could just start listening.
34:59We did have sex in the
35:01shower with our husbands all together.
35:03We also had sex
35:05in the same bed at the same time.
35:07We would blindfold each other and
35:09you would have to guess which husband you were kissing
35:11and a couple of times we did that.
35:13We also had
35:15a night where it was just four husbands
35:17and you and me. They asked us to go get in short
35:19shorts so we did and then we came
35:21down and we were so drunk we were making out and we were
35:23on top of each other and they all filmed it on their
35:25phones.
35:29I mean Taylor's not
35:31wrong. At this point
35:33I don't even know if I should say yes I am a
35:35swinger or no I'm not a swinger. You guys can call it
35:37whatever you want. You tell me if I know or not.
35:39How are you guys feeling about
35:41Miranda? I feel better about Miranda
35:43than I feel about Whitney. When I'm around her
35:45I enjoy being around her. That's what I'm saying.
35:47I'm glad to hear that maybe you guys are softening
35:49on her. I don't
35:51have any anger now. I'm still
35:53hesitant of the timing of things
35:55and the intentions and she knows that.
35:57The only thing that makes me nervous is just that she
35:59is attaching herself to like Jen.
36:01Yes. I don't know why it makes
36:03me nervous. You're like attach yourself to us. Yeah I'm like
36:05come on join our group.
36:07I wonder what they're talking about.
36:11Being called a bad friend was like what I took
36:13really personal and so I guess like this is
36:15for me like what this is.
36:17I am here
36:19and I came here to take accountability.
36:21So yeah
36:23we've had sex in the same room like we've had
36:25like we had crazy parties
36:27in Mexico and I'm like I don't
36:29think you deserve to be lied to.
36:32Yeah there were a handful of things
36:34that happened that I am still
36:36like yeah that's so embarrassing.
36:38I'm not going to deny that. If I could go
36:40back I would have handled everything differently.
36:42I think that I really let
36:44the fear of being perceived get
36:46the best of me. I just felt so out of
36:48control and
36:50so wronged. It was difficult
36:52for me to have a lot of like
36:54empathy for her
36:56but I wish that I would have come
36:58out with what really did happen rather
37:00than denying everything that
37:02probably did make her feel worse
37:04and look worse and that wasn't my
37:06intentions. It was very much
37:08I'm terrified and I have a
37:10reputation as a Mormon to uphold
37:12and I regret that.
37:14The sooner that we get through these hard conversations
37:16the sooner we can hopefully
37:18build a genuine
37:20relationship and friendship. I just
37:22want to move on and
37:24leave it all behind us for
37:26your sake, for my sake, for everyone's sake.
37:28But I won't make you go into any details.
37:30If you're like saying yeah we did crazy stuff
37:32along with like kissing
37:34then that makes sense to me.
37:36I just say I wanted to make sure we were like on
37:38the same page.
37:42I do feel like Miranda is trying to take the steps
37:44of admitting the things that she has done
37:46and just taking accountability. I know her
37:48very well and I think there's a part of her that's
37:50very uncomfortable admitting those
37:52things knowing
37:54that family and friends
37:56are gonna know and see and hear about it
37:58and it's like I have a really soft spot for her
38:00in my heart and I still
38:02do love her.
38:04The whole like chase thing and like
38:06his feelings and all of that
38:08was just like gut wrenching.
38:10You know I'm feeling like double betrayal.
38:12Betrayal from like my husband and from my best friend.
38:14There was just so much that I couldn't
38:16do the friendship anymore and I understand
38:18that that like wasn't fair to you.
38:20Given how close
38:22we were I like I could see how
38:24betraying that would be. I would be
38:26really sad about it. So I
38:28I hold that on
38:30me too a lot so it's not
38:32fair to hold resentment with you.
38:34Cause I'm just like I was not a good friend at that time.
38:40Sorry.
38:42I was a really bad
38:44friend and
38:46maybe I was a bad person and
38:48I'm sure Taylor can relate
38:50but it was a lot.
38:52We both did to each other.
38:54I feel like that's
38:56fair to just let it go.
38:58Leave Taylor
39:002022 like in the past
39:02cause I feel like I'm a completely different person. I don't know if you
39:04can tell but yeah I just like
39:06I do not like that version of myself
39:08and I think that's why I'm stuck. I'm like not moved on
39:10because I'm like
39:12I don't know. I don't know like
39:14I can't even like actually talk about it cause it's like
39:16I understand.
39:18I just don't know how someone can be like that horrible.
39:20You?
39:22Yeah like that person I was like very selfish.
39:26I feel like I was such like a good person
39:28up until like those like that time
39:30and like I was so loyal
39:32to my husband, to my best friend
39:34like I told him like a lot like
39:36I'm not gonna do this cause I'm like
39:38I'm a loyal wife
39:40and then I think as things went on like
39:42I was
39:44I got weaker and weaker the more we did it.
39:46I don't know how I did
39:48that to him and like you
39:50I don't know
39:52I just I hate her. Like I hate her.
39:54Yeah but Taylor if you
39:56weren't her
39:58you wouldn't be who you are now.
40:00Which I don't know it's a good thing like
40:02I'm like in and out.
40:04Do you not think that you're better than where you were?
40:06Yeah I'm a better person hopefully.
40:08Yeah absolutely like I told
40:10you how I've seen it in you.
40:12I think it's more than fair
40:14for you to give yourself a little bit of grace.
40:16Miranda and I talking here
40:18does make me realize
40:20I do miss the friendship. Her and I
40:22have like this natural chemistry that we
40:24just like gravitate towards each
40:26other and I have never had someone like that
40:28but I don't know if I want to be
40:30her best friend like obviously there's a ton
40:32of history so time will tell with that.
40:46Hello!
40:48Hi Mikayla!
40:50How the heck have you been?
40:52Busy!
40:54Lots going on.
40:56So what are you thinking
40:58that you want to focus on today?
41:00Maybe retouch on some
41:02trauma.
41:04Okay yeah so
41:06I'd like to maybe see if we can go back
41:08to that 14 year old.
41:10Yeah.
41:12Yeah.
41:14Maybe see if we can go back to that 14
41:16year old you know Mikayla.
41:18Who do you think you want to take your power
41:20back from the most?
41:24My mom.
41:26I think it's also maybe just becoming comfortable
41:28with keeping it in for so long
41:30and shoving it down
41:32and the fear of bringing it up
41:34as well.
41:36Yeah. Don't know how to process
41:38it so just keep it down.
41:40Is it getting harder
41:42to keep it there?
41:44Are you noticing it have more
41:46effects?
41:48Definitely have more effects I would say.
41:50Notice it spilling
41:52out into different relationships
41:54or different areas.
41:56Growing up
41:58I think we all kind of inherited the trait of
42:00you push everything under the rug, you don't
42:02talk about it until it gets to the boiling
42:04point and for me it was
42:06presenting itself in physical ways and it was like
42:08I couldn't run away from it
42:10anymore and so I was like okay well I'm just gonna go in
42:12and I'm gonna head strong just attack it.
42:14I still get like triggered by it
42:16and I still have the trauma response.
42:18So sometimes to take your power
42:20back we need to do
42:22things now that you didn't have a chance
42:24to do when you were younger.
42:26So I want you to channel into
42:28the feistiest, snarkiest,
42:30meanest,
42:32bitchiest
42:34piece of yourself.
42:37I'm gonna represent
42:39the person that was abusing you
42:41and I want you to come at me.
42:43I want you to say what
42:45you really feel about me.
42:47You're a piece of shit.
42:49I can't do it.
42:51What else would you say to me?
42:57It is uncomfortable Mikayla
42:59for sure. It's uncomfortable
43:01for you to have to live with us
43:03but you have a right to say
43:05you're a piece.
43:07You have a right to say
43:09you had no right.
43:11You took advantage of me.
43:15I was a little girl
43:19and you hurt me
43:21in a way you
43:23had no business ever putting hands
43:25on me.
43:27I know.
43:33Yeah, you are a piece of shit
43:35and you had no right
43:37to do it to me
43:39and take so much from me
43:41and I feel
43:43a lot of hate
43:45towards you for it.
43:51For it to just not.
43:53You motherfucker.
43:55Amen.
43:59Amen.
44:01Is it any lighter?
44:03Is it still just as heavy as ever?
44:05I think it's a little lighter
44:07for sure.
44:09It's a little bit lighter.
44:13I think just talking about it
44:15is a little healing.
44:17Talking about my past sexual abuse
44:19is not easy but I feel like there's
44:21something really freeing about finally
44:23telling the truth and expressing these
44:25emotions that I've held in for so long
44:27and it's definitely something that I want to apply
44:29to every aspect of my life.
44:31I want to flip the script and break that cycle.
44:35Is it something that you could leave here
44:37instead of tucking it back inside of you?
44:39Yeah.
44:53Don't look at me.
44:55Don't look at me.
44:57Are you going to spit up again?
44:59There it is.
45:01That's what you wanted
45:03to happen.
45:05Huh?
45:11You just had a baby.
45:13I know.
45:15Oh my goodness.
45:17You forget every single time.
45:19Let's go in here.
45:21Macy and I are visiting Whitney today
45:23and just checking on how she's doing postpartum.
45:27Hello.
45:29Hi.
45:31I wouldn't say I'm like besties with Whitney
45:33but I have no issues with Whitney and I'm here
45:35if she needs a friend.
45:37It is tiny.
45:39So small.
45:41So Whitney reached out to me to get together
45:43to kind of just hash everything out.
45:45I feel like I reached out to you like ever so often.
45:47You didn't respond to me and then all of a sudden you posted
45:49a text online and then I'm like
45:51what the hell? So it felt like a stab
45:53in the back to be honest.
45:55I wish that I would have just talked to you
45:57rather than running away and I'm sorry.
45:59I just can't help but feel bad for her
46:01and I do think that she regrets
46:03all of the things that happened.
46:05I mean Jesus told us to forgive and love thy neighbor
46:07so that's why I'm forgiving.
46:09You want to hold him?
46:11He's so freaking cute.
46:13Look at his ears.
46:15He might be getting hungry though.
46:17I'm glad you're like doing
46:19good and you're up
46:21and you're like all around
46:23which is crazy.
46:25I have to know, what happened at the Halloween party?
46:27Oh gosh, that was a nightmare.
46:29Maybe we were like a summary.
46:31What didn't happen really?
46:33I know Chase showed up because Miranda told me
46:35Chase was calling.
46:37Well that's when chaos started.
46:39We just started going at him like it was bad.
46:41Because I was in the middle like believing him
46:43I'm like why would you believe him when you can see he's lying?
46:45The biggest issue I had at the Halloween party
46:47was kind of Dakota not defending me
46:49as much as I thought he would to Chase.
46:51Did you tell me that Jimmy had a sex dream about me?
46:53Yeah.
46:55You never told me that.
46:57That's crazy.
46:59That's really opportunistic.
47:01Almost as if he's looking for something
47:03to justify like the lies
47:05I found out.
47:07It makes it hard to move forward
47:09especially when things like this come up and happen.
47:11It's like almost we take two steps back.
47:13Can you believe that?
47:15And then the cops came.
47:17They were yelling at Chase.
47:19It was crazy.
47:21When you give birth it's just you
47:23and this baby.
47:25As we're sitting here talking I'm just constantly reminded
47:27of how much I miss this.
47:29I miss being around even the other women
47:31and I miss us all being together.
47:33Girlfriend's crying. Miranda's crying.
47:35That's when Jordan freaks out.
47:37He's like take accountability.
47:39Take ownership right now.
47:41That's what I did.
47:43That was wild.
47:45And then I guess she didn't know.
47:47But that's craziness.
47:49That's like insane.
47:51I can't believe I'm about to say this out loud
47:53but I think I want to come back into mom talk.
47:55I've definitely felt
47:57very isolated.
47:59It definitely feels like
48:01I have no one to turn to right now.
48:03It feels like
48:05Jesse and Demi
48:07are trying to
48:09sabotage me
48:11in my relationship.
48:13I feel like I have no one
48:15to turn to right now.
48:17It feels like
48:19Jesse and Demi
48:21are trying to sabotage me
48:23in my relationship.
48:25This whole time
48:27you were talking about
48:29how you were this supportive friend to me.
48:31If mom talk is about friendship
48:33then why are you doing this to me?
48:35If you truly knew
48:37what I have been going through this past year
48:39this is the last thing that you would be doing.
48:43Hey I went to the store.
48:45Yeah?
48:47Yeah?
48:51I mean I'm 10 days late now
48:53so
48:55I think we should
48:57we should take a
48:59pregnancy test.
49:01Okay let's do it.
49:03Okay.
49:05You just want me to wait right here?
49:07Will you come in the bathroom?
49:09After I...
49:11Sure yeah.
49:13Okay.
49:17Okay.
49:27Do you want to look at it together?
49:29Yeah.
49:31Okay.
49:53I started feeling
49:55depressed and anxious because
49:57my life has been
49:59really rocky
50:01and all over
50:03the place so
50:05I am
50:07stressed
50:09out of my mind
50:11with the thought of me being pregnant
50:13because Zach
50:15and I aren't on the best of
50:17terms and
50:19I think the last thing we need is another
50:21baby.
50:23You okay?
50:25I'm okay.
50:29I'm okay.
50:31Ready to look
50:33at it? Yeah.
50:41Yep I'm pregnant.
50:53Yeah I'm just scared
50:55scared
50:57because
50:59I'm not the person I want
51:01to be before bringing in
51:03another child
51:05so I'm
51:07sad for this child because
51:09I don't
51:11even know where my marriage is at
51:15and so
51:17I think
51:19in this moment
51:21I've kind of come to my
51:23breaking point.
51:33Do you want it harder? Softer?
51:35Oh I like that.
51:37Do you ever think you'd be back
51:39at a mom talk sex party?
51:41I mean Miranda's a great kisser.
51:43I just wanted to talk to you guys about
51:45the Halloween situation. What you guys did
51:47was touch my wife without consent.
51:49A few months ago
51:51I got confessions. It said
51:53I slept with Demi's husband last year while
51:55she was away.
51:57Tensions in mom talk have been really high right now.
51:59I feel like so alone with my
52:01marriage and where I'm at with
52:03all the girls. Okay.
52:05Now it's time for you guys
52:07to confess. Something that you've held in
52:09that you've never told people. So many
52:11secrets.