Crazy times in the NBA... We check in on Jay Crawford following yet another Cleveland Collapse. Then move on to the Warriors and Wolves, Steph Curry left the game early with a hamstring strain. Tyrese Haliburton had the game winning three ball, the Indiana Pacers lead the series 2-0. What does Tyrese have that Tyler Herro doesn't have?
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00:00Boy, there's some chaos in the NBA.
00:03How's your boy Jay Crawford doing after last night?
00:05I imagine sick.
00:07Well, it's funny you should ask.
00:11We definitely have an interaction.
00:16I said, are you okay?
00:20That was brutal.
00:21Laughing.
00:22Most Cleveland thing ever.
00:24I replied, in any sport.
00:26Yep.
00:26He said, one man team tonight.
00:28And then I listed some of the other downfalls in Cleveland history.
00:36Because if you live in Cleveland, you are very familiar.
00:41Did Charles Aggie come up?
00:43Indians against the Marlins.
00:46Yeah.
00:48Cavs against the Bulls.
00:50Craig Elo.
00:52And Browns against Denver twice.
00:54That's brutal, dude.
00:55Think about that.
00:56If you have lived through.
00:59Now, the only thing is, it's only game two.
01:02Right?
01:02But.
01:04It's game two.
01:06And you should be 1-1 right now.
01:08Correct.
01:09At the worst.
01:10You got a 50-piece from Spida with all his guys out on your floor.
01:15And you lose.
01:17That's a killer, dude.
01:18And how they lost.
01:20It's how they lost.
01:22It's not that they lost.
01:23It's how they lost.
01:24How they lost.
01:26Was it?
01:27They were up seven with 50 seconds left.
01:34Now, to be honest, if you had a little chili pepper on it, at that point, you're thinking,
01:43hang on for the win.
01:45I got five and a half.
01:46Right?
01:49At no point in time, in those 50 seconds, did anyone ever think the Cavs would actually lose.
02:02Crazy.
02:03It was crazy.
02:05And then, I don't, listen, I don't know what the hell happened to Minnesota.
02:12They were awful yesterday.
02:15Awful.
02:16I mean, I know he gets piled on a lot, but it's deserved.
02:22But Rudy Gobert should be embarrassed with himself.
02:24Like, I couldn't imagine being that imposing a figure and still allowing Draymond Green to take your lunch money like this consistently.
02:32It's so embarrassing what he did.
02:35Now, mind you, look, it's Ant's team.
02:38He stunk yesterday.
02:40Anthony Edwards was awful.
02:42They lost Steph Curry.
02:43I don't know when he's coming back.
02:45It didn't look good.
02:45And, and think about this.
02:49Now, the only way you can lose to the Warriors is 90s basketball.
02:57A bunch of middies, a bunch of taking it to the rim, a bunch of free throws.
03:02That's the only way you can lose.
03:04And you supposedly have the best deterrent at the rim in the league.
03:09Nah.
03:10That's, that, I, when, when Steph got hurt, I'm like, oh, this is going to be.
03:14Nah, he's, listen, Rudy Gobert is a peacock without feathers.
03:18Like, he's useless, dude.
03:19He is.
03:22Nobody was calling him Shaq.
03:25Who?
03:26Because, listen, y'all were calling him Shaq.
03:29Dude, well, that's the thing that was embarrassing about it, though.
03:31Like, this guy is one of the all-time, like, you know in the playoffs, Rudy Gobert is kind of useless.
03:37It's just what it is.
03:38Because they can, they scheme him out of games.
03:40That's what made what he did against the Lakers so shocking.
03:43Is that he looked like Wilt.
03:46And, you know, Ant's talking about, yeah.
03:48He's like, you guys, you guys talk bad.
03:50I'm like, look, Ant seems like a great teammate.
03:52But yesterday, you watched it in the first 10 minutes of this game.
03:55You're like, I can't believe Draymond Green is punking this guy again.
03:58He's half his size.
03:59Right.
04:00It's crazy.
04:01But I was asking Marcos a question, all right?
04:02Because we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
04:04And I asked him a very, I said a very stupid thing then.
04:07Because sometimes we do our own little show.
04:09Right?
04:10Huh.
04:11You're admitting to saying something stupid.
04:12Why don't I get that admittable?
04:15I don't know.
04:16Too much pride on my part.
04:18Well, I'm going to give you my stupid point right now.
04:20Okay.
04:21Because I said the stupid thing to him, right?
04:24And we were, like, talking.
04:25I don't remember what point.
04:25Do you remember what point of the season it was, Marcos?
04:27It was probably, like, three weeks to go, maybe.
04:30Yeah.
04:30Like, three weeks to go.
04:31And I said to him, Tyrese Halliburton is not that much better than Tyler Hero.
04:37If he's better than you.
04:38Tyler Hero, Tyrese Halliburton, I think I'd take Tyler Hero.
04:41And I'm thinking to myself.
04:44And I'm, like, watching last night.
04:45Because this guy, he's stones.
04:48That's just what he is.
04:49But he's awkwardly.
04:50He looks awkward doing it.
04:52He's stones, Leroy.
04:54Like, this guy is such a killer.
04:57Right?
04:57And he's just, like, everybody in the league is calling him the most overrated guy.
05:01Even yesterday, you saw that Donovich was scared.
05:04He's trying to get Cleveland to stop chanting overrated.
05:06He's, like, stop doing that.
05:07Stop.
05:07Stop.
05:07Stop.
05:08And he's getting this disrespect kicked on his name.
05:11Now, mind you.
05:13These guys grew up together.
05:15Tyler Hero and Tyrese Halliburton.
05:17They ain't crabbed together.
05:19This was them on their team.
05:20Wait, wait, wait.
05:21Hold on.
05:22Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
05:24Tyler Hero was taller than Halliburton?
05:28Looks like it.
05:29I mean, I don't know perspective on that.
05:30But they're the same height.
05:32No way.
05:34They're the same height.
05:34Halliburton's taller than Tyler Hero.
05:36Same height.
05:37Because he looks like a spider with his long arms and legs.
05:40He's not.
05:41Like, I thought that, too.
05:42He's not.
05:43I mean, Tyler Hero's got T-Rex arms.
05:44He's 6'5", 6'5".
05:45I think Tyrese Halliburton is 6'5", 6'8".
05:48So it's longer.
05:50Right.
05:50But they're the same height.
05:51And that's why I was like, you know, what's he got that Tyler doesn't got?
05:57I'm just trying to figure it out.
05:58Like, what does he got that Tyler don't got?
06:01Right?
06:02Now you know.
06:03It's just.
06:04But, like, do you understand what I'm saying with that?
06:07Like, it's a strange thing.
06:08These guys, they grew up together.
06:10They're the same age.
06:11Right?
06:12Tyler got drafted a year earlier.
06:14Tyler comes in.
06:15Bat out of hell.
06:16Into the league.
06:17Tyrese Halliburton.
06:19He's traded from the Kings for Sabonis.
06:23He's such an idiot.
06:24I can't believe you like that guy.
06:25Still good, man.
06:26It was a decent trade at the time.
06:28At the time.
06:29You know.
06:30You don't even have De'Aaron Fox anymore.
06:33Stupid Kings fan.
06:34Anyway.
06:35Tyler Hero comes in the league like a bat out of hell.
06:39He's talking all this bleep.
06:40You know.
06:41Like, just.
06:42Just.
06:42Six.
06:43You know.
06:43Then he goes to six man of the year.
06:45Tyrese Halliburton gets the trade from the Kings.
06:47Because they're going to De'Aaron Fox.
06:48They're going to bring in Sabonis.
06:49Looks like a great trade for the Kings at the time.
06:52And now Tyrese Halliburton is sitting here.
06:54He's two wins away from eliminating the one seed.
06:57He was in an Eastern Conference final last year.
06:59Where the Heat and the Pacers had the same record.
07:01He did lose Jimmy Butler in the play-in.
07:03But he's still gotten to the Eastern Conference finals.
07:05You can't take it away from him.
07:06Right.
07:07And.
07:08I'm just trying to think, Leroy.
07:09Like, he stinks at defense.
07:11He's not a great guy getting to the free throw line.
07:14But, like.
07:15Like, there's just something about Tyrese Halliburton.
07:17Where it's like.
07:18Shot on the line.
07:19Tyler Hero.
07:20Worst clutch player by percentage this year in the NBA.
07:24I mean, Tyler Hero.
07:25Excuse me.
07:25Tyrese Halliburton.
07:2610 for his last 11 in the final two minutes.
07:28Like.
07:29He's just.
07:31Stones.
07:31And I'm like.
07:32What?
07:33Why?
07:34Why is there this gap there with them?
07:36Because I look at him.
07:37I'm like.
07:38Okay.
07:38Tyrese Halliburton is a little bit more of a pure point guard.
07:40He gets his teammates involved.
07:41Like, what does he have that Tyler don't have?
07:45I can.
07:46I can.
07:47Boil it down to this.
07:52If I mention.
07:53Tyler Hero.
07:55To a group of NBA fans.
07:57They'll go.
07:58Good player.
07:59All-star.
08:00Right.
08:00If I say Tyrese Halliburton.
08:03Hate him.
08:04Can't stand him.
08:05When you have a guy like that.
08:07That means that he has pretty much eaten your soul at one point.
08:13Yeah.
08:13And we tend.
08:15Everybody hates this dude for no reason.
08:19Hate him.
08:20Because he has buried you at some point.
08:24And that's the difference between the two guys.
08:27That.
08:29When you hate somebody as a fan of another team.
08:32Is because you fear them.
08:36Is because you're terrified.
08:38That if that guy goes off.
08:41We don't have a chance.
08:43So when he goes into all these arenas.
08:45And he goes and plays all these games.
08:48And he hears all these chants.
08:51Right.
08:52And then buries you.
08:55And talks trash.
08:56Now.
09:00You know the difference.
09:02Between Tyrese Halliburton.
09:05And Tyler Hero.
09:06Because.
09:07Think about.
09:08Let's put it this way.
09:1040 from Tyrese Halliburton.
09:13Is like getting shot with a Uzi.
09:16Right.
09:1740 from Tyler.
09:18Is like getting hit with a slingshot.
09:21Because it doesn't necessarily mean.
09:23That he broke your back.
09:25Right.
09:25Shmithan saying Tobin.
09:26Your high is cheap crack.
09:27If you think Tyler Hero is anywhere close to Tyrese Halliburton.
09:30Halliburton made the Olympic team.
09:31Tyler even get a tryout.
09:34I just want to be clear.
09:35Shmithan.
09:36I'm not.
09:37I know weeks ago.
09:38I did say that.
09:39But I'm like.
09:39Obviously very clearly.
09:40We sit here today.
09:41Tyler Hero getting smacked in the teeth.
09:43Worst playoff.
09:45Loss in NBA history.
09:47Tyrese Halliburton.
09:48Two wins away from his second straight.
09:49Eastern Conference Finals.
09:50Very clearly.
09:51I'm not saying.
09:52I was wrong for even.
09:53Entertaining that to Frogboy.
09:56But you understand.
09:57Like if you put the players in a vacuum.
09:59Right.
10:01You would be like.
10:02You look at their numbers.
10:04You look at.
10:05Their height.
10:06You look at.
10:07What they do.
10:08It's like.
10:09They're.
10:09They're pretty parallel.
10:11No they're not.
10:12But they.
10:13But they are.
10:13They are.
10:14Like skill set.
10:14Well I'm just saying.
10:15Skill for skill Leroy.
10:16They are.
10:17Okay.
10:17Okay.
10:17But.
10:18But.
10:18But very clearly.
10:19But there is that X factor.
10:21Because like here's the thing.
10:23Tyrese Halliburton.
10:24No matter what.
10:26Is going to be the man in Indiana.
10:28Like we know this.
10:29Whatever Indiana does.
10:30However far they get.
10:31Even if Indiana tweaks things.
10:33And.
10:33And I will say.
10:34Like yes.
10:35Indiana has a better.
10:36A better roster.
10:37It's not an overwhelming roster.
10:38It's a better roster.
10:40You know.
10:40But no matter what.
10:43Tyrese Halliburton.
10:43From here on.
10:45Probably until he retires.
10:46Is the man in Indiana.
10:48And what we're talking about.
10:49This whole offseason.
10:50And what we're going to talk about.
10:51This whole offseason.
10:53Is going to be talking about somebody.
10:55Who can be the man.
10:56Because Tyler and Bam can't be the man.
10:59And I'm just.
11:00I'm.
11:00And it's interesting.
11:01Because.
11:02When they came into the league.
11:05Tyler Hero.
11:05Took off.
11:06Yes.
11:06He got to be a big player.
11:08On a good team with Jimmy Butler.
11:10Tyrese Halliburton got traded off of a Kings team.
11:13But I'm like.
11:13Well what.
11:14What happened.
11:15Like where did it go.
11:16Is it because.
11:17Indiana was so thankful to have Tyrese Halliburton.
11:20He was treated like the man.
11:22And.
11:23It's just.
11:23It's.
11:23It's just been that.
11:25And he's had that responsibility.
11:26And Tyler Hero is just getting this now.
11:27In year six.
11:28Where Halliburton has been this since year.
11:30Since year two basically.
11:32Um.
11:33I.
11:34This is.
11:34But very.
11:35Very clearly.
11:36There's a separation there.
11:37This is the other issue.
11:39That.
11:39We seem to overlook.
11:41Tyrese Halliburton's role.
11:44wherever he's played.
11:46Has been pretty consistent.
11:49That.
11:50And.
11:50And.
11:50And he does a really good job.
11:52And.
11:52I think it's.
11:53Uh.
11:53Luis Benito.
11:55In the chat.
11:56Said it best.
11:56He feeds everybody else pizza.
12:00But that last slice is for him.
12:03Whereas Tyler.
12:04We put more on him.
12:07To be the scorer.
12:10And not necessarily the facilitator.
12:13So.
12:13He has to be more than just a point guard.
12:16Right.
12:17Because we need his scoring.
12:19So.
12:20The roles are a little bit different.
12:22But.
12:24At the end.
12:27I mean.
12:28Just.
12:29Just watching him.
12:30Like.
12:31He.
12:31But here's the funny thing.
12:34He not only made the three.
12:36He got the rebound.
12:38Yeah.
12:39He went and got the home rebound.
12:41They let him dribble behind the three point line.
12:44And then shoot a three.
12:46Wait.
12:47Can anybody.
12:48Like.
12:49Do something.
12:50Huh?
12:51So.
12:52Yeah.
12:54Um.
12:55That was.
12:56Like.
12:57That was.
12:58That was.
12:58That was so cutthroat.
13:00What he did.
13:01Oh my goodness.
13:02I don't.
13:02I really.
13:03I don't know.
13:03The whole way.
13:04I really don't know how Cleveland recovers from that.
13:07Max Drew saying recover from that.
13:09Dude.
13:09Max Drew.
13:10Oh God.
13:11He took it rough yesterday.
13:12We'll play that sound a little later for you.
13:13Rest.
13:14Woo.
13:15I mean.
13:16Again.
13:16I go back to.
13:18Telling.
13:18You guys.
13:19What it feels like.
13:21Right after.
13:23And to have to answer questions.
13:26When you want to put your fist through a wall.
13:28Right.
13:29It's.
13:30It's a tough thing to ask.
13:33Not an athlete.
13:35A human.
13:36And for some reason.
13:39We think.
13:40That.
13:41An athlete is not.
13:43Human.
13:44You better be ready to answer our questions.
13:46Because you're required to.
13:48And.
13:49I.
13:50Being in that situation.
13:52Never take the human part away from the athlete.
13:55And so.
13:55I can sympathize with him.
13:58You know.
13:59I understand.
14:00And when I saw him answering the questions.
14:03I'm like.
14:04Yeah.
14:04I know what that feels like.
14:06Right.
14:06But people don't.
14:08Everybody else just looks at it as.
14:10You know.
14:10Something different.
14:11I look at it as.
14:13Man.
14:13That's human.
14:14Like.
14:14I could.
14:15Take any one of you.
14:17And put you in that situation.
14:18To where you're just.
14:20Almost heartbroken.
14:22Right.
14:22And then say.
14:24Now.
14:24You're required to answer questions.
14:25About what you just went through.
14:28It's not going to be so friendly.
14:30It's not going to be so happy.
14:32Right.
14:33So.
14:34Yeah.
14:34I like.
14:35I just look at that differently.
14:37I mean.
14:37I look at him.
14:37And I'm like.
14:38Man.
14:38I feel your strues.
14:39I feel your pain.
14:41I know what that feels like.
14:42Right.
14:43But I don't think a regular person understands it.
14:47I don't know how they come back from it dude.
14:49I mean.
14:49You got to.
14:51You got to win four out of five now.
14:52When that's happened to you.
14:54You do.
14:55You've won 60.
14:56What did they win?
14:5660 games?
14:58Oh.
14:58That's out the window now.
14:59It doesn't matter now.
15:00No.
15:01But.
15:01But here's what you have to do.
15:04You have to go to a place.
15:06Mentally.
15:08Even though it's a huge deal.
15:12You have to go to a place mentally.
15:16Where.
15:17You can say.
15:19We've won 10, 11 games in a row.
15:22And it didn't matter who we were playing.
15:24If we just play our style of basketball.
15:28And see it through till the end.
15:30And we can get through this.
15:32But.
15:33If you go into the next game.
15:36Thinking about how you blew the last games.
15:39In that arena.
15:40With that Rockers crowd.
15:42You have no chance.
15:44If you go into the next game.
15:44I'll see you again.
15:46I'll see you next time.
15:47For now.
15:48To the next.